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048 - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S4 E4 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle Harris: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt, I'm your host Michelle. And I'm Matt. Mat: And I'm Matt. Michelle Harris: Today we'll be talking about Secret Lives of Mormon wives season four, episode four. Did you want to give us a quick Mat: All right. Episode four. Michelle Harris: recap of episode three? Sure. There was so much going on with all the back and forth leading up to the reunion. Mat: Sure. I there was so much going on with all the back and forth leading up to the reunion. I don't really remember many like main points of the episode. I know it started out with Taylor, I guess, learning about Dakota from Jesse and Jordan and Jordan's like, No Michelle Harris: points of the episode. I know it started out with Taylor, I guess, learning about Dakota from Jesse and Jordan. Yeah. Jordan's like, no, Mat: you need to call somebody else and have them tell you about this. 'cause he didn't want to get no doubt that it came from them. 'Cause his whole little scheme there with Michelle Harris: you need to call somebody else and have them tell you about this. Yeah. Because he didn't want to get out that it came from them. This whole little scheme there. Mat: telling his wife everything and telling everybody else not to tell their wives anything, Michelle Harris: Mm-hmm. Mat: I guess. and then Taylor ends up calling Dakota and like is pissed at him and all this. And it just seems like a lot. Like she's getting ready to go on the Bachelorette. Michelle Harris: Taylor ends up calling Dakota and is pissed at him and all this and it just seems like a lot. she's getting ready to go on the Bachelorette. Mat: I think later on in the episode she is like she finally says like she can move on like after the reunion. Yeah. I think she was like, the reunion was great. Like Whitney's like, It's a sh it was a shit show and Taylor's like, it was great. And I think it was just great for her because all the shit with Dakota and she's like finally like moving on, I guess. Yeah. So I don't know. Michelle Harris: Yeah. She was like, the reunion was great. Whitney's like, it was a shit show. And no, was great. And I think it was just great for her because all this shit with Dakota and she's finally moving on, guess. I don't know. Mat: what else happened? Macy met with Chase. Yeah. Michelle Harris: Macy met with Chase. Yes. Mat: And I guess I because Chase was has been talking shit about all the girls and Macy on his podcast, but Jacob wants to be pals with him now. I don't know. So they met to like I guess kinda air all that out, all that bullshit. Michelle Harris: Yes, because Chase was has been talking shit about all the girls and Macy on his podcast. But Jacob wants to be pals with them now. I don't know. Yeah. So they met to, I guess, kind of air all that out. that bullshit. Mm hmm. Yeah. Mat: what else happened? I don't know. I I'm I'm stuck. I'm lost. I mean Michelle Harris: the biggest things were the reunion happening with all Demi stuff. Mat: biggest things were the reunion happening with all Denise stuff. Michelle Harris: Jen and Whitney are getting ready for Dancing with the Stars. And yeah, the rest of Mat: And yeah, the of it was Michelle Harris: it was kind of just like some back and forth about Taylor and Dakota. So. OK. Well, tell us about episode four then. Mat: Yeah. Okay. Well, tell us about episode four then. This is the premiere of Dancing with the Stars, right? You mentioned that last week. Okay. Michelle Harris: This Dancing with the Stars, Yep. From that last week, okay? Yep, this is the premiere. We're here. We're here. So Mat: We're here. Michelle Harris: we're at Whitney's dinner. she had the event the night after. She was the only one, I guess, of invited to this brand deal thing. Yeah. But she didn't invite everybody else. Right. And Demi didn't show up. Right, yes. That's my recap. Noted. Mat: dinner so she had the event after and she was the only one I guess kinda invited to it this brand deal thing and then but she did invite everybody else. Right. And Demi didn't show up. Right. Okay. So just add that to my recap. No didn't So Whitney sits down with the girls for dinner. The girls ask Whitney going on with Demi and why she didn't come. Whitney tells Michelle Harris: So Whitney sits down with the girls for dinner. The girls ask Whitney what's going on with Demi and why she didn't come. Whitney tells the girls that she just needed a second. Jen says that she's still processing the reunion but is proud of herself for how she stuck to her guns and stood up to Demi. Mat: Needed in a second. Jen says that she's still processing the reunion, but is proud of herself for how she stuck to her guns and stood up to Denis. Whitney tells the girls that Denis thinks that she's weak for not going to these types of events, but Whitney thinks it's the opposite, and she just needs to not care what the other girls think. Michelle Harris: Whitney tells the girls that Demi thinks that she is weak for not going to these types of events, but Whitney thinks it's the opposite and she just needs to not care what the other girls think. Whitney thinks the girls need to move on and they all agree that they are ready to move on from this. So in an interview, Whitney says she is very pleasantly surprised by this and is hopeful that maybe everyone can like move forward with their friendships. Mat: Whitney thinks the girls need to move on and they all Whitney says she is very pleasantly surprised by this and hopeful that maybe everyone can move forward with their friendships. With with to me. Everybody, but yeah. Michelle Harris: What to me? just in a group, I don't think people are looking to be best friends with her, but let's just move. We can't have the same conversation over and over again. this is just, yeah. Layla says she felt icky after yesterday's reunion Mat: they've been saying all along. Yeah. says she felt icky after yesterday's review again. Michelle Harris: and then Jesse asked Taylor how she is feeling and Taylor brings it back to Dakota and says that it was closure for her. Mat: feeling and Taylor brings it back to Dakota and says that it was closure for her. Michelle Harris: Macy says she wants to see the text that Dakota referenced because Dakota during the reunion said that Taylor the night before was sexting him. Taylor finally admits that she did ask Dakota to tell her every detail about the villa. And after they hashed that out, she did tell Dakota that it turned her on. So. Mat: Macy said she wants to see the text that Dakota referenced because Dakota during the reunion said that Taylor the night before was texting him. Taylor finally admits that she did ask Dakota to tell her every detail about the villa and after like they kinda hashed that out, she did tell Dakota that it turned her on. Okay. So she said that since it was over the phone, it was on a phone call. Michelle Harris: She said that since it was over the phone, it was on a phone call, it wasn't sexting. And all the girls are like, you can't do that. that is leading Dakota on. Jessie in an interview says she can hear it now. Taylor is a very detailed person. So it probably sounded like this. So what's the name of the bitch you fucked? What position? What did you, did you finish? Is she pregnant? And then Dakota was like, no, no, no, I love you. But Taylor would be so heated that she's turned Mat: Sexting. And all the girls are like, You can't do that. that is leading Dakota on the Right, right. Jesse in an interview says she can hear it now. Taylor is a very detailed person, so it probably sounded like this. So what's the name of the bitch you fucked? What position? What did you did you finish? Is she pregnant? And then people were like, No, no, no, I love you, but Taylor would be so heated that she's trying to Michelle Harris: on. Mat: All the girls tell Taylor that Michelle Harris: All the girls tell Taylor that it feels like foreplay and she can't do that and it leads to code it on. The girls think that Taylor loves the toxicity and Taylor just thinks that it's kinky. Mat: Dakota on. The girls think that Taylor loves the toxicity and Taylor just thinks that it's kinky. Michelle Harris: Macy doesn't think that Taylor is ready to be on the next bachelorette, but she thinks it is the best thing for her so she can move on. So I'm like, you're about to go like do this for you. Mat: doesn't think that Taylor's ready to be on the next bachelorette, but she thinks it is the best thing for her so she can move on. Right, okay. you're about to go like do this for you. Michelle Harris: When all these men like she's not ready for this. Mat: She's not ready for this. Michelle Harris: As the girls are leaving Mat: The girls are Michelle Harris: the dinner, they're saying goodbye to Whitney. Michaela tells Whitney that she's proud of her. So we see a one-on-one moment with Michaela and Whitney. Whitney says that she hopes she's doing okay with being postpartum. expresses how sad she is that she missed Whitney's newborn stage with Billy because they were fighting. Mat: see a one on one moment with Mikaela and Whitney. Okay. Whitney says that she hopes she's doing okay with being a postpartum and Mikaela expresses how sad she is that she missed Whitney's newborn stage with Billy because they were fighting right, right. At this point Mikael gets like very emotional and like of her hormones and Whitney is like comforting and hugging her. Michelle Harris: At this point, Michaela gets very emotional and is crying probably because of her hormones and Whitney is like comforting and hugging her. Michaela says after the union, it changed her outlook as far as Whitney and they are working to connect and build their friendship back. And like all the girls are in the back like being like, is this actually happening? Like. Mat: says after the union it changed her outlook as far as Whitney and they are working to connect and build their friendship back. Okay. All right. And all the girls are in the back are being like, is this actually happening? Michelle Harris: Whitney in an interview says that in the past she would cling to Demi to feel safe, but as time goes on, she feels like she doesn't need Demi by her side anymore. However, Whitney is hoping that Demi can make it on the girl's strip to come on Dancing with the Stars premiere and they can all move past this. Whitney said at one point she never thought her and Michaela could even be in the same room, let alone have a conversation like this. So hopefully there's hope for Demi and the Mat: safe but as time goes on she feels like she doesn't need demean by her side. Okay. Wow. However Whitney is hoping that Demi can make it on the girls trip to come on Dancing with the Star S premiere and they can all move past this. Whitney said at one point she never thought her Mikael could even be in the same room, let alone have a conversation like this, so hopefully there's hope for Demi and the girls as Michelle Harris: girls as well. Mat: well. Okay. Michelle Harris: We're in Salt Lake at Taylor's house and Macy, Michaela and Jesse are going over to Taylor's house. So I'm assuming Whitney and Jen have left to go back to LA. And I don't know where like Miranda and Layla are and all this, but. They're there to discuss the Demi situation. Jesse asks if anyone has heard from Demi and all they say is not since the reunion. Jesse. Mat: We're in Salt Lake at Taylor's house and Macy, Michaela, and Jesse are going over to Taylor's house. So I'm assuming Whitney and Jen have left to go back to LA. Right, right, to get ready for don't know where Miranda and Layla are and all this, but Okay. they're there to discuss the Denis situation. Okay. Jesse asks if anyone has heard from Denis and all they say is not since the reunion. Jesse Michelle Harris: expresses how surprised she was that Demi did not show up at Whitney's event last night since her stance was that she is a fiercely loyal friend. And all the girls are like, think Mikaela Mat: expresses how surprised she was that to me did not show up at Wendy's event last night. right. Okay. And all the girls are like, I think we Michelle Harris: brought up fiercely loyal. And they're like, she does say that a lot. Like I just like my loyalty is fierce. She points out that she was so mad at Whitney Mat: So mad at Michelle Harris: for not going to the baby mama event and then it cuts to the clip where Demi is telling the girls that if Whitney does not walk in by the end of the countdown, they will all unfollow her on social media. Mat: Right, right. Michelle Harris: And I honestly forgot about that. was like, and before her saying that, it was like, you know, she should be here Mat: Be here. Michelle Harris: and all this stuff like you should be supporting your friend no matter what you're making it all about Mat: Right. Michelle Harris: you. And it's like, so are you doing the same thing? I mean, Whitney seems more understanding than any of the girls when it comes to that kind of stuff. But yeah. Jesse says that she is also Mat: Right. mean Whitney seems more understanding than any of the girls. Right, yeah. But yeah. Jesse says that she is also she isn't Demi is the first one to Michelle Harris: She is in Demi is the first one to not buy mental health issues. Michaela points out that Taylor didn't go to New Orleans because she was struggling and Demi had a huge fit about that. It cuts to the clip of Demi questioning why Jen didn't go to Arizona. Mat: Mikaela points out that Taylor didn't go to New Orleans because she was struggling and Demi had a fit about that. right, right. It cuts to the clip of Demi questioning why Jen didn't go to Arizona. Michelle Harris: It shows the video of Jen crying. So the video that Jen sent to the group of Jen crying, saying she's been in the darkest place of her life. And to me, in an interview saying, first of all, crying videos will never not be weird to me. I think she's just being a coward. Right. Mat: it shows the video of Jen crying, so the video that Jen sent to the group right, yeah, yeah. Saying she's been in the darkest place of her life. And to me in an interview saying, First of all, crying videos will never not be weird to me. I think she's just being a coward. Right, right. Michelle Harris: So this is a really good point that the girls want to be understanding and she is really going through something and she needs time. That's one thing, but you haven't given that grace to anyone else. So now that you want it for yourself, well, where was it when they needed it? Mat: So this is a really good point that the girls want to be understanding and she is really going through something and she needs time. Right. That's one thing, but you haven't given that grace to to anybody, right, right. So now that you want it for yourself, well where was it when they needed it? Right. Michelle Harris: And I think when all the girls, Mat: And I think when all the girls Michelle Harris: I wish that all the girls, instead of saying, take accountability, like point out those instances. Well, well say sorry to me for, you know, calling me a coward when we were in Arizona or say sorry to Whitney for unfollowing her at baby mama. Cause you didn't show up at her vent. Like those are the real conversations to have. Like those are the things that you haven't addressed yet. And until you address those things, then maybe we can come back to you need a break. Mat: I wish that all the girls instead of saying take accountability point out those instances. Well well say sorry to me for, calling me a coward. Or say sorry to win up the actual baby you didn't show up at her bed left. Yeah. Those are the real conversations to have. Like those are the things that you haven't addressed yet. Yeah. And until you address those things, then maybe we can come back to you need a break. Yeah. Michelle Harris: you Mat: Michaela says it's ironic me has been flip flopping because she's doing exactly what she hated button for. Right, yeah. So it just goes back to that same point of just the hypocrisy of the Yeah, yeah. The conversation then turns from to me Michelle Harris: Michaela says it's ironic that Demi has been flip-flopping because she's doing exactly what she hated Whitney for. So it just goes back to that same point of just the hypocrisy of it all. The conversation then turns from Demi and Jessie asks how Ben is feeling now that their relationship is all over TikTok. Mat: feeling now that their relationship is all over TikTok Michelle Harris: Taylor corrects her and says, our friendship? Taylor says. Mat: were they doing like some TikToks together or is this just like couple clips of them like in TikToks together? Michelle Harris: They showed a couple clips of them like in TikToks together like Taylor behind him Taylor says Ben is doing great, but they've only met twice Taylor says her time with Ben was fun while it lasted but it's time to get her mind right for the bachelorette Get it in gear girl Jessie asks if Taylor is open to dating other people right now and Taylor says yes she is Mat: get her mind right for the bachelor okay. Get your mind right. Get it in gear, girl. Jesse asks if Taylor is open to dating other people right now, and Taylor says, yes, she is. And Michelle Harris: and It goes off on this like a little funny thing. we think you should dip your toes in the water. Macy's concerned about Taylor's dating history or lack thereof because she got married so young and then immediately went to Dakota. The girls think it would be a good idea Mat: It kinda goes off in this like a little funny thing we think you should dip your toes in the water. Macy's kinda concerned about Taylor's dating history or lack thereof. Right. Great choice. The girls think be a good idea. Michelle Harris: for her to experience dating multiple people before going into dating 30 guys. Taylor at one point says, well, there's a bunch of pervs in my DMs, but I don't hang out with them. Mat: experience dating multiple people before going into dating thirty guys. Okay. Taylor at one point says, Well there's a bunch of pervs in my DMs but I don't hang Michelle Harris: and he the Mat: out with them Michelle Harris: interrupts and goes, let us set it up. Mat: Ha ha. Michelle Harris: We're in Bravo, Utah and Dakota and Jordan are going to the gym together. Jordan thinks that the reunion for Dakota was a complete shit show and it shows the clips of Taylor's parents giving Dakota a bunch of shit about Mat: Yeah. It shows the clips of Taylor's parents giving Dakota a bunch of shit about Michelle Harris: how he's a liar. They can't believe him. He wants to have a public perception of being a good boy, but like he's basically an asshole. And Dakota at one point said that he saw Leanne, Taylor's mom behind the cameras flipping him off. Mat: being a good boy but he's basically an asshole. Right. And Dakota at one point said that he saw Leanne Taylor's mom behind the cameras flipping him off. Michelle Harris: I can just picture it. So that wasn't in the reading? No, I did not see that. Yeah. Mat: That wasn't in the reunion, you didn't see that. Some behind the scenes. Yeah. Damn. Michelle Harris: Jordan tells Dakota that him and Taylor need to be 100 percent done. And it was the first thing that Jordan ever said. I was like, yes, everyone wants that. Right. Mat: thing that Jordan ever said, I was like, yes. Everyone wants that. Right, right. Michelle Harris: But don't. Jordan asked what Dakota meant when he said Taylor was sexting and Dakota just says that she was talking dirty to him and Jordan goes good lord Dakota in an interview says Taylor knows that he can be her safe space So no matter what's happening she can turn to him and always and he will always be there for her He goes even if she wants to take out anger She knows she can do it on me and I won't be going anywhere and that he's always loved her Mat: says Taylor knows that he can be her safe space, so no matter what's happening, she can turn to him and always and he will always be there for her. Right. He goes, even if she wants to take out anger, she knows she can do it on me and like I won't be going anywhere, and that he's always loved her. Right. Jordan asks Dakota about seeing Taylor on the Bachelorette, and Dakota can tell you can tell he's like kind of mad about that. Okay. Michelle Harris: Jordan asked Dakota about seeing Taylor on The Bachelorette and Dakota can tell, you can tell he's like kind of mad about that. And he says that, you know, she could be in a right place where she's opening up to these guys, potentially could get engaged to one of them. Dakota says it's gonna hurt because he really did love Taylor. Mat: Be in a place where opening up to these guys, potentially could get engaged to one of them. Right. Dakota says it's gonna hurt because he really did love Taylor. Well then why'd you treat her like such shit, dude? I mean it goes both ways. Yeah, yeah. Dakota says he would be lying if he didn't say that there's a piece of him somewhere hoping that something takes and they could like Michelle Harris: it goes both ways they bolted. Dakota says he would be lying if he didn't say that there's a piece of him somewhere hoping that something takes a turn and they could live happily ever after. And I was like this is a little foreshadowing. Mat: Right. Michelle Harris: So yeah, Taylor, definitely in this relationship is no saint at all, but he eggs her on and doesn't Mat: Yeah. Michelle Harris: like let her move on. But then again, she like calls him when she finds out he slept with someone. It's like it's just the back and forth. And it's like both of you, someone needs to like block both your numbers and you're not allowed to like Mat: slept with someone. It's like it's just the back and forth. And it's like both of you someone needs to block both of your numbers and you're not allowed to like Michelle Harris: reenter them into your phone anymore. Jordan says it's hard to see his friend like this because he's clearly not over Taylor and Taylor's never gonna choose Dakota as a partner. So it's important that they invite Dakota to LA for their trip with Mom Talk to Dancing with the Stars so he can be with Dad Talk and make some Mat: So it's important that they invite Dakota to LA for their trip with mom talk to dancing with the stars so he can be with Dad Talk and be some Michelle Harris: content. He's hoping that him and Taylor can just be agreeable. I'm like, Jordan, this is the worst idea. The best idea is for them to be apart. Taylor has to go on the strip because Mat: Taylor can just be agreeable. I'm like George. Yeah, that's yeah now. The best idea is for them to be apart. Right. Taylor to go on this trip because Michelle Harris: the girls are the one going to the premiere. The guys are going on the strip. They're all staying in the same house together. And you think it's a great idea for Dakota to come? I'm like, dear, Mat: Right. The guys are going on the strip. They're all staying in the same house together. And you think it's a great idea for Dakota to Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: this guy, so stupid. We go to Taylor's house and Jessie and Miranda are picking up Taylor for a little dating night out. Taylor doesn't know that they are about to go speed dating. When they get there, Taylor starts freaking Mat: Okay. Taylor doesn't know that they are about to go speed dating. When they get there, Taylor starts freaking out. Michelle Harris: out and kind of like going back into her shell. Miranda says dating in Utah hasn't been the best and lately she's been thinking that maybe her person isn't there and then she caveats out and goes But maybe I also need to stop being a hermit and go out and put myself in situations where I could meet someone Mat: Right. That yeah, that might help. Michelle Harris: Jesse tries to help Taylor with some ideas of how she could start a conversation with the guys. Taylor asks her to demonstrate. So Jesse goes up to the guy behind Taylor and asks him. So they all have clipboards that have prompts. so you have to find someone that's left-handed and then fill in your square with their name and all that stuff. So she goes up to the guy and goes, what could you fill out for me on my clipboard? Mat: Jessie tries to help Taylor with some ideas of how she could start a conversation with the guys. Taylor asks her to demonstrate. So Jessie goes up to the guy behind Taylor and asks him so they all have clipboards that have prompts, so you have to find someone that's left handed. Okay. Alright. So she goes up to the guy and goes, like what could you fill out for me on the clipboard? Michelle Harris: And he responds and he goes, I pineapple on my pizza. So then it starts the conversation. Miranda at one point is like. Mat: And he responds and he goes, I'd like pineapple on my pizza. So then it starts the conversation. Right. Miranda at one point is like Jesse's flirting as second nature to her. She thinks it's probably like a letdown to all the other guys, but the guys like she did tell guys like, Hey, I'm married, I'm just here to vet the guys for these girls. Right, right. But it keeps going back and like Miranda and Taylor they don't know how to talk to these men. And Jesse's just like having fun Michelle Harris: Jessie's flirting a second nature to her. She thinks it's probably a letdown to all the other guys, but the guys, she did tell guys like, I'm married. I'm just here to vet the guys for these girls. But it keeps going back and like Miranda and Taylor, they don't know how to talk to these men. And like, Jessie's just like having full on like conversations, can like talk Mat: Yeah. Michelle Harris: to anyone. And they're like, this is like definitely like her lingo. Mat: Ha ha. Michelle Harris: The girls go into the speed dating event now, so they're going like the guys move table to table. And Jessie does participate, but she tells the guys that she's there to vet the guys for the two eligible single friends. Miranda is not looking like she's enjoying the conversation with the guys. And in an interview, she goes, yeesh. Mat: into the speed dating event now, so they're going like tate the guys move table to table and Jesse does participate, but she tells the guys that she's there to vet the guys for the two eligible single friends. Miranda is not looking like she's enjoying the conversation with the guys and and everything here because she goes, Yeesh Michelle Harris: A guy in a cowboy hat tells Taylor that he was married for 18 years and has eight kids, four boys and four girls. Taylor in an interview goes, the stories I was getting right off the bat were crazy. Taylor Mat: eighteen years and kids, four boys and four girls. Taylor in an interview goes the stories I was getting right off the bat were crazy. Michelle Harris: says this is definitely draining having to talk to all these guys. So the guy that Jesse first approached when Taylor asked her to demonstrate then sits down with Taylor and he goes, I have a question for you. And Taylor goes, God. And then he shows her a photo of the bachelorette announcement, like her photo. And he goes, is this you? At first, Taylor was like, no, that's not me. And she was like, why does it look like me? He's like, yeah. And then she goes, yeah, that's me. So they start talking and he is like, how are you feeling about it? And she says it's making her nervous. She basically says, you know, this was practice for dating a bunch of men. Mat: basically says, this was practice for dating among men. Right. Michelle Harris: so he was like, so this is just dipping your toes. And so he was just curious about like why Mat: And so he was just curious about why she was there. Michelle Harris: she was there. Mat: Okay. Taylor says this is really good practice, but she could see the red flags immediately and when the conversations kinda died down, she didn't know what to do. Taylor goes to get Miranda and Jesse and tells them that they need to head out, like in the middle of Miranda talking to someone Michelle Harris: Taylor says this is really good practice, but she could see the red flags immediately. And when the conversations died down, she didn't know what to do. Taylor goes to get Miranda and Jessie and tells them that they need to head out, in the middle of Miranda talking to someone. And Miranda's just like, OK, so the girls get up and leave. And Taylor gets out of the car. She's like, that was way too much. Mat: All right, see ya. And Taylor gets out of the car and she's like that was way too much. Michelle Harris: We're in LA at Whitney's house and Connor's asking Whitney how the event went. Whitney says it went really well and the girls were happy to be there and were nice to her so she wasn't sure what was going on. She's like, what were in those drinks? I don't know. Mat: says it went really well and the girls were happy to be there and were nice to her, so she what was going on. She's like, What were in those drinks on? Michelle Harris: Connor asks if they're all following each other back on socials now and Whitney goes, you're gonna die. I have to show you something. And Whitney shows him her phone and shows that she has re-entered the group chat. Mat: Shows him her phone re entered the group chat. my gosh, the mom talk group chat? She goes, Connor, you're gonna shit yourself down. Michelle Harris: She goes, Connor, you're gonna shit yourself. And then when he saw it, he goes, pfft. She's like, my God. She shared that Macy sent a photo to her and Makayla. Like it was a throwback photo from like when they were like very first friends. And she was like, it was very nostalgic and reminded me of the days where like we wouldn't go a single day without FaceTiming or calling or talking to one another. And she's like, it just felt really good to get that. Mat: Yeah. it was very nostalgic and reminded me of the days where we wouldn't go a single day without FaceTiming or calling or talking to one another and she was like it just felt really good to get that. Michelle Harris: They show Jen showing up at Dancing with the Stars rehearsal with Jan, so Jan's her partner. show their rehearsal and Jen says it's hard because she just had a baby a couple weeks ago. Jen says her mom is gonna be so proud of her to see her on the dance floor since they connect through dance. Mat: they show their rehearsal and Jen says it's hard because they she just had a baby a couple weeks ago. Jen says her mom is gonna be so proud of her to see her on the dance floor since they connect through dance. they show like Yan twirling and I forgot that her first dance was like this trick intense. Okay. But like she is being thrown up like into the air, twirling around like and she's only eight weeks postpartum. Michelle Harris: They show Jan twirling and I forgot that her first dance was like this trick intense. But like she is being thrown up like into the air cartwheeled around like and she was only eight weeks postpartum. Mat: Right. So I'm like, that's insane. And then they do show a little bit of like their Michelle Harris: So I'm like, that's insane. And then they do show a little bit of like their partnership Jan and her. They take a little bit of a break and they're talking about her doing cryo and she's like. She's like, this is harder than TikTok and Jan rolls his eyes and was like, obviously this is Mat: this is harder than TikTok and Yon kinda rolls his eyes. Michelle Harris: harder than TikTok. she goes, TikToks are hard. I'm like, gosh. Mat: God. Michelle Harris: I mean, she was kidding, but we're back in Utah and Miranda and Jesse are meeting Taylor and the organizer of the speed dating event for lunch. the organizer of the speeding dating event is also a dating coach. Mat: Utah and Miranda and Jesse are meeting Taylor and the organizer of the speed dating event for lunch. So the organizer of the speeding dating event is also a dating coach. Okay. So they want to give Taylor advice before she goes on to the battery. Okay, Michelle Harris: So they want to give Taylor advice before she goes on to the Bachelorette. Mat: alright. Michelle Harris: Miranda is excited for Taylor to find the love that she deserves. The dating coach asked Taylor what she thinks the guy who will check all of her boxes would act like in the beginning. Taylor says he would probably present as more on the shy side and it would take a little bit for him to warm up. Which I thought that that... Mat: The dating coach asks Taylor what she thinks the guy who will check all of her boxes would act like in the beginning. Taylor says he'd probably present as more on the shy side and it would take a little bit for him to warm up. Okay. Which I th thought that that Michelle Harris: actually is a very good thing to point out because the first night you're meeting all 30 men, then you have to go into the house, you have to meet all these men, they have to come interrupt and grab you for a conversation. And then you're talking with them and it's like, yeah, the most outgoing people are gonna come grab you right away. Mat: Actually is a very good thing to point out because the first night you're meeting all thirty men, then you have to go into the house, you have to meet all these men, they have to come interrupt and grab you for a conversation. Right. And then you're talking with them and it's like, yeah, the most outgoing people are gonna come grab you right away. Right, right. And then you have to give out a first impression rose, but maybe the f person not like Michelle Harris: And then you have to give out a first impression Rose, but maybe the person that is your person might have not made an impression on you. So it's like, she was like, so you're going to see all these guys trying to flex. you got to look behind them to who's who's behind them to see maybe if those people are your people before you just send them home because they didn't make an impression right away. Mat: Is your person might have not made an impression on you, so it's like she's like, So you're gonna see all these guys trying to flex, you gotta look behind them to like who's Okay if those people are your people before you just send them home. Because they didn't make an impression anyway. Yeah. Michelle Harris: Taylor in an interview says she thinks she needs someone in the middle of her ex-husband in Dakota since they are polar opposites. So she says that her ex-husband was a little bit more reserved, homebody, private, on the shy side, and then they got divorced and she immediately went to like life of the party. And so she's like, I just need that middle ground that's gonna ground me. Mat: Taylor in an interview says she thinks she needs someone in the middle of her ex husband in Dakota since they were polar opposites. So she says that her ex-husband was a little bit more reserved, homebody, private, on the sky side. And then they got divorced and she immediately went to life party. Right, okay. And so she's like, I just need that middle ground Yeah, yeah, right. Michelle Harris: Taylor says her perfect guy would shoot his shot when he got a chance but wouldn't go head to head with anyone. Mat: Taylor says her perfect guy would shoot his shot when he got a chance, but wouldn't go head to head with anyone. Michelle Harris: Miranda hopes Taylor doesn't sell sabotage because she will take a step back when she thinks she doesn't deserve it. A producer asked Miranda since she has known Taylor for a long time what Mat: Miranda hopes Taylor doesn't self sabotage because she will take a step back when she thinks she doesn't deserve it. Okay. A producer asked Miranda, since she know has known Taylor for a long time what Michelle Harris: she thinks is going on and Miranda says she thinks that there's a void in Taylor's life that Taylor's hoping can be filled by a man, but she fears she won't find a man until she fills that void herself. Mat: Miranda says she thinks that there's a void in Taylor's life that Taylor's hoping can be filled by a man. but she fears she won't find a man until she fills that void herself. Which I think is very good advice. you gotta be okay with being on your own. Yeah. one hundred percent before Michelle Harris: Which I think is very good advice. you gotta be okay with being on your own. 100 % before you can allow someone into your life. And she just keeps running back to Dakota. So don't think she's been able to be by herself even though they've been quote unquote separated. Mat: Right, right. And she just keeps running back I don't think she's been able be by herself quote unquote separated. Right. We're back in LA and the girls are arriving for the dancing with the stars premiere. Jordan then calls Dakota to convince him to fly out. Michelle Harris: back in LA and the girls, all the girls are arriving for the Dancing with the Stars premiere. Jordan then calls Dakota to convince him to fly out. Mat: And Jacob's sitting there agreeing and James looks like this is bad. Michelle Harris: And Jacob is sitting there agreeing and Jace's face looks like this is bad. Mat: What the hell are we doing here? 'cause this is the first time Jace has been with these men because he didn't go to the villa. right, okay. And even more so Michelle Harris: And this is funny because this is the first time Jace has been with these men because he didn't go to the villa. right. OK. And even more so, you don't see him really interact with that group a lot, that that men group. So like he is sitting in the room with a couple of conversations. like as the night goes on, you don't see Jace. So I think he is definitely a little bit more. Leave me the fuck out of all this. Like I don't want anything to do with it. Mat: You don't see him really interact with that group a lot. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So he is sitting in the room with a couple conversations, but as the night goes on, you don't see Jace. Okay. So I think he is definitely little bit more leave me the fuck out of here. Michelle Harris: Jesse asked Taylor if Dakota is still coming. So I guess Taylor knew that there was a possibility. Taylor says she did tell Dakota that if he wanted to come, he could, and she doesn't give a rat's ass. Taylor says if he does Mat: Okay. Taylor says she did tell Dakota if he wanted to come he could and she doesn't give a rat's ass. All right. Taylor says if he does come Michelle Harris: come, she'll just bring guys back to the house if he's there to piss him off. The girls think it would be so awkward, and Taylor says Mat: It be so awkward and Taylor says Michelle Harris: that's what I want. Mat: Then Connor shows up the house to say hi to everyone and he shows up wearing a Warkit t shirt, so W H A R K. So Whitney and Mark put together, so instead of work it, we're Okay, I got you. then it has Whitney and Mark on the t shirt. Okay. He's bringing like he has a staff. Michelle Harris: Connor shows up to house to say hi to everyone and he shows up wearing a work it t-shirt. So W-H-A-R-K. So Whitney and Mark put together. So instead of work it, work it. And then it has Whitney and Mark on the t-shirt. He's bringing, like he has a stack of them and he walks into the room. He was so funny. goes, okay girls, I have an offer for you. If you vote for Whitney, you get this nice t-shirt. Mat: T shirt. Michelle Harris: anyone for the taking and Michaela takes one, which I was like kind of surprised. So Michaela puts Mat: Taking and Michaela takes one. Michelle Harris: it on, they take a photo of her in it and they send it to Whitney and then she ends up bringing it with her to the premiere and like putting it on after the show. So I thought that was a cute little Mat: send it to Whitney and then she ends up bringing it with her to the premiere. Okay, right, right. so I thought that was Michelle Harris: moment. Mat: a cute moment. Okay. Leila and Mason then Michelle Harris: Layla and Mason then show up. Connor breaks it to the girls that Demi is staying at a hotel. Michaela says, yeah, she isn't filming anymore. And this is the first time that a majority like Taylor, Jessie, Miranda, all of them, no, I think Miranda knew, but the rest of the girls kind of found out. Right. Mat: This is the first time that a majority like Taylor, Jesse, Miranda, all of them no, I think Miranda knew, but the rest of the girls found it. Okay, so this is like after the reunion she's not filming anymore. So Demi has Michelle Harris: So Demi had texted Layla saying she was only doing Dancing with the Stars and she will have to fill her in after that. Because Layla was asking, hey, you're staying at the house with us. And Demi responds, unfortunately not, only Dancing with the Stars. I'll have to fill you in later. So it seems like Layla and Demi are maybe OK, but they have a conversation Mat: Layla saying she was only doing dancing with the stars and she will have to fill her in after that. Because Layla was asking, Hey, are you staying at the house with us? And Demi responds, Unfortunately not only dancing with the stars. I'll have to fill you in later. Okay. So it seems like Layla and Demi are maybe okay. Right. They have a conversation. Michelle Harris: later that then I'm like, well, why was that your text response then? Why would you even respond? Mat: Right, right. Okay, yeah. Then Layla says, Are you not filming anymore? And Divine goes, As of right now, no And Jesse and the girls are like, As of right now, like what the fuck either you're in or you're out. Right, right. Michelle Harris: Then Layla says, are you not filming anymore? And Demi goes, as of right now, no. And Jesse and the girls are like, as of right now, what the fuck does that mean? Either you're in or you're out. And the girls are frustrated that people keep coming and going. At this point, Connor is like, I feel awkward being in this conversation, and goes to leave the Mat: At this point Connor's like I feel awkward being in this conversation. it was still leaving the Michelle Harris: room. And before leaving the room, Connor goes, speak your truth, but don't be mean. And Jesse just goes, okay, Connor. Mat: Speak your truth, but don't be mean. And then she just goes, Okay, Connor Jesse says Demi is not being forced to leave and she's creating her own chaos. Michelle Harris: Jessie says Demi is not being forced to leave and she's creating her own chaos and choosing to leave. All the girls agree with this. They say that when someone leaves, the other girls have to pick up the slack. So this was a really interesting point that Taylor specifically keeps making throughout the episode. Mat: Okay. They say that when someone leaves, the other girls have to pick up the slack. So this was a really interesting point that Taylor specifically keeps making throughout the episode. Taylor basically calls it unprofessional and she shouldn't be able to pick and choose when and where she shows up to. So the fact that she knows that she's going dancing with the stars isn't fair. Michelle Harris: Taylor basically calls it unprofessional and she shouldn't be able to pick and choose when and where she shows up to. So the fact that she's not coming to the house, but she's going dancing with the stars isn't fair. Mat: She points out the fact that when one person decides to not film Michelle Harris: She points out the fact that when one person decides to not film, the filming responsibility then falls to all the other girls, which isn't fair. So she's like, we're all trying to put our lives out there, but we also have lives. So when you decide to just up and leave filming, those gaps have to be filled in. Mat: the filming responsibility then falls to all the other girls, which isn't fair. Right. So she's like, We're all trying to put our lives out there, but we also have lives. So when you decide to just up and leave Right. Those gaps have to be filled in. Right. Okay. And so more filming falls on them. So I'm like, you don't even think about that. Like this is definitely breaking the fourth wall of like reality T V. Yeah. But like you don't even think about that as a viewer of like Michelle Harris: And so more filming falls on them. So I'm like, you don't even think about that. Like, this is definitely breaking the fourth wall of like reality TV. But like, you don't even think about that as a viewer of like, this is why a lot of these girls are so pissed. like secret lives. Right. Secret lives. Yeah, no, no, no. How hard is it to make a TikTok? Mat: This is why a lot of these girls are so pissed. secret lives. Right. Not mom talk. Right. Okay, I'm I'm like, okay, how how hard is it to make a a TikTok without having with having six people instead of seven? She's talking about secret lives. Okay, I was like, What is this bullshit? Like, who cares? Okay, okay, so now they have to like be more involved and maybe more one on ones or like more shit at like more drama. Michelle Harris: No, no, she's having six people instead. No, she's talking about secret lives, having the film crew show up like, yeah, no, no, she's talking about secret lives and Mormon wives. Yeah. And. More drama, maybe Michaela's story comes back into it with her skin and her therapy, Mat: Right and her therapy. Michelle Harris: like just all that stuff. Yeah. Mat: more one on ones, we gotta be at Jesse's house. There's nothing going on, so now we gotta go over and and talk with Whitney and Connor and Okay, all right. I was like, What how fucking hard is it to make TikToks with six people instead of seven people? Okay, all right. I was gonna say something and then I was like, I'll just let this go and then you were like, it's it's the actual reality T V show. Okay, all right, okay. This makes a lot more sense to me now. Michelle Harris: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. All right. That was like, no, not not the Tic Tocs. All right. I was going to say something and I was like, I just let this go. then you're like, it's the actual reality. Yeah. Yeah. It's the actual reality. It's like, why are you not understanding this? All right. The girls leave to go to Dancing with the Stars on the way. Taylor asked Macy how her podcast went with Harry. So let's back up a second. please. Macy showed up to the house late in full glam. And I was like, why did this happen? So it comes out that she was promoting her book. So she went on a bunch of podcasts and one of them was Harry Jousey's podcast. Mat: The girls leave to go to Dancing with the Stars. On the way, Taylor asked Macy how her podcast went with Harry. So let's back up a second. Yes, please. Macy showed up to the house late in full glam, and I was like, Why did this happen? So it comes out that she was promoting her book. Okay. So she went on a bunch of podcasts, and one of them was Harry Josy's podcast. okay. So Taylor was asking how Michelle Harris: So Taylor was asking how the podcast went with Harry. Macy said it went well. I guess at one point Harry asked Macy behind the scenes if any of the girls were single and Macy brought up Taylor because she thinks he would be a good distraction from Dakota. Mat: Macy said it went I guess at one point Harry asked Macy behind the scenes if any of the girls were single, and Macy brought up Taylor because she thinks he would be a good distraction from Dakota. Okay. He's a great guy. Michelle Harris: It shows a clip of Harry asking if people swing. Macy says, no, it was Taylor who was a swinger. And he goes, damn, she doesn't do that anymore. I was going to DM her. And Macy says, well, you can still DM her. Apparently, he sent Macy a screenshot that he DM Taylor with just I love you. OK, that's all he said. Mat: Macy says, Well you can still DM her. apparently he sent Macy a screenshot that he DM'd Taylor with just, I love you. Okay. Michelle Harris: Meanwhile, Dakota is showing up the house and all the guys are there. And so it's a little mini villa reunion. Jordan says his biggest concern is Dakota and Taylor fighting, but who knows? Maybe it will lead to a little pillow talk. You just said that they should be done. Mat: Right, right. And then you invite him out. Michelle Harris: And then he says, he hopes that's not the case because they need to move on from one another. You knew exactly Mat: He says, but he hopes that's not the case because they need to move on from one another. Exactly. Michelle Harris: what you were doing when you invited him out because you didn't want the drama to be on you. You wanted to deflect it onto someone else and you knew that this would happen. Take accountability, Jordan. Mat: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take accountability, Jordan. Michelle Harris: Take ownership. Mat: Dakota says that his dream would be to have a relationship like Chase and Miranda have, where they can coexist and co-aparent right, yeah. Because they're very cordial and you know, can be around. Yeah, Michelle Harris: Dakota says that his dream would be to have a relationship like Chase and Miranda have, where they can coexist and co-apparent well together. Because they're very cordial and can be around one another. Mat: yeah. the girls show up at dancing with the stars, all the girls express how proud. Michelle Harris: girls show up at Dancing with the Stars. All the girls express how proud and happy they are for Whitney and Jen. especially impressed with Jen being tossed around in the air because they only had their babies a few weeks apart from one another. Layla says that it's weird for Demi and Brett to be there. So they show a photo, like a group photo, and Mat: Michaela is especially impressed with Jen being tossed around in the air because they only had their babies a few weeks apart. Right, right. Layla says that it's weird for Demi and Brett to be there, so they show a photo, like a group photo and then Michelle Harris: then Demi and Brett are in the back corner smiling in this photo. Layla thinks that to me was there to give the public perception that she was still part of the group. Producers asked the girls if they had to vote for only one, which one would you choose and why? So I want to take a break right now. So I Mat: Layla thinks that to me was there to give the public perception that she was still part of the group. Okay. Producers asked the girls if they had to vote for only one, which one would you do? So take a break right now. So I Michelle Harris: remember this clearly on Dancing with the Stars at one moment, all the girls are sitting around. So whenever they do like a promo, they move the girls from their seats to this one little Mat: They move the girls from their seats to this one little table. Okay. And they have them sit in a U and then either they'll be with the podcast host or the host of Dancing Willow Stars will be standing there to make an announcement to the camera. Okay. So Alfonso is standing there with Julianne on his side, the two hosts. Yeah. And they announced the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives cast is in the building and like they're promoting it on Hulu because Disney and Hulu and Disney. Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: table and they have them sit in like kind of you and then like either they'll be with the podcast host or the host of dancing on stars will be standing there to like make an announcement to the camera. So Alfonso was standing there with Julianne on the side, the two hosts, and they announced the secret lives of Mormon wives. Cass is in the building and like they're promoting it on Hulu because Disney and Hulu and ABC are all owned by the same company. And at one point, Mat: And at one point because they're promoting the drama where in season three that just came out, Whitney was on the out. Right, right. Alfonso asks, Are you guys also voting for Whitney? But they can't really say yes or no. And I remember Denise taking the microphone and going, Yeah, we are Michelle Harris: because they're promoting the drama where in season three that just came out, Whitney was on the outs with all the girls. Alfonso asks, are you guys also voting for Whitney? But they can't really say yes or no. And I remember Demi taking the microphone and going, yeah, we are. So she even, she even went as far as speak for the group during this, but they didn't say that on here. But I do remember that. And I'm like, and I was like, Mat: okay. When as far as like speak for the group. Right, when she was not even part of the group, really. okay. But I do remember that. Interesting. Michelle Harris: I know. her and Whitney are friends because the chatter that was going on but during all this like they actually were good but I don't know if anyone wanted to say anything Mat: yeah, it was yeah, prior to you seeing the But during all this, they actually were good, but know if anyone wanted to say anything. Right, right. Interesting. Michelle Harris: So going back, the producers ask each of the girls in the interviews if you had to vote for only one, which one would it be and why? Layla says you could not waterboard me into answering this question. Macy says that Mat: If you had to vote for only one, which one would it be and why? Okay. Layla says you cannot waterboard me into answering the question. Macy says Michelle Harris: she's not going to answer it. Jesse says that her and Whitney are close, but she is to me in her pocket at the moment, so her vote would be with Jen. Mat: Jesse says that her and Whitney are close, but she has Demi in her pocket at the moment, so her vote would be with Jen. Michelle Harris: Miranda just says Whitney and producers ask why Whitney is it because Jen never calls you and Miranda says, yeah, Jen is non responsive. I was like, that's a first. So there must be drama that we haven't seen between Miranda and Jen because she's like, yeah, Jen doesn't Mat: Miranda just says Whitney. Okay. Producers ask why Whitney? Is it because Jen never calls you? And Miranda says, Yeah, Jen is non responsive. I was like, that's the first. Wow, okay. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, yeah, Jen doesn't touch. Michelle Harris: talk to me. Wow. OK, interesting. Mat: Wow. Okay. Interesting. Michelle Harris: It goes back to Macy and Macy is explaining, I'm not going to let this bite me in the ass because both of their girls would ask me for my phone to see who I voted for. But then it goes back to Layla and she's like, hesitating. She goes, Whitney. And then they're like, why? And she goes, well, based off friendship level, I would have to say Whitney. And then like the producers like, so you like Whitney more? And she goes, Lord, don't Mat: It goes back to Macy and Macy's explaining, I'm not gonna let this bite me in the ass because both of their girls would ask me for my phone to see who I voted for. Then it goes back to Layla and she's like hesitating. She goes, Whitney and then they're like, Why? And she goes, Well, based off friendship level, I would have to say Whitney and then it's like the producer's like, So you like Whitney more? And she goes, Lord, don't Michelle Harris: tell Jennifer that. So and then they don't show Taylor. So I don't know if they asked Taylor or not. girls are on the way back from the Dancing with the Stars premiere, so they show a bunch of clips, them behind the scenes hugging Whitney and Jen, like the excitement. You saw some of the Mat: And then they don't show Taylor, so I don't know if they asked Taylor. girls are on the way back from the dancing with the stars premiere. So they show a bunch of clips, them behind the scenes hugging Whitney and Jen, the excitement. Yeah. Michelle Harris: other celebs there, the one that got eliminated week one, Corey Feldman with the spiky blonde hair. He was like behind Jen at one point. like. Mat: Okay. With the spiky blonde hair. he was behind Jen at one point and he was giving her creepy eyes. I'm like, he just like weird Michelle Harris: He was like giving her creepy eyes. I'm like, he just like weirds me out sometimes. I'm sure he's a very nice man. But I also thought it was weird that they like the girls wouldn't be like, if I were there, I'd be like, my God, I got to see Daniel Fischl dance. Like I would have freaked the fuck out. you know, like been like, we saw this person. No, it was just about Whitney and Jen. I'm like, those are your friends. Like, Mat: But I also thought it was weird that they like the girls wouldn't be like if I were there been my god, I got to see Danielle Fischel dance. Yeah I would have freaked the fuck out. then we saw this person that no, it was just about Whitney and Jen. I'm like those your friends, Michelle Harris: like show some of the other people. Anyway. Maybe they would have to be paid if they showed them. The girls are on their way back and Macy gets a text from Jordan saying Dakota Mat: Maybe they would have to be paid if they showed them. Maybe. The girls are on their way back and Macy gets a text from Jordan saying to Michelle Harris: is there. Taylor says, game on bitch. But Taylor says that Harry hasn't responded. So Macy says, call him. Macy doesn't think it's a good idea for Dakota to be there and it's not healthy based on what happened at stage coach. Mat: Taylor says sh game on, bitch. But Taylor says that Harry hasn't responded, so Macy says call him. Macy doesn't think it's a good idea for Dakota to be there and it's not healthy based on what happened at Stagecoach. Reminder at Stagecoach, they ended up hooking up. Right, right. Even after they fought all day. Yeah. So who knows what could happen. Taylor ends up Michelle Harris: Reminder at stagecoach they ended up hooking up Even after they fought all day, so who knows what could happen Taylor ends up calling Harry and she is so awkward to the point where Macy had to take the phone and say are you gonna come over and hang Mat: She is so awkward to the point where Macy had to take the photo before you come over there. Michelle Harris: out and Harry says he will be there So like Taylor's on the phone. She's like hi, and then she's like I'm not good at dating or talking to guys and Macy's like give me the fucking phone Mat: either. okay. So like Taylor's on the phone, she's like, Hi and then she's like, I'm not good at dating or talking to guys and Mace's like, Give me the phone Michelle Harris: all the girls are like dying laughing The girls then get back to the house and they all sit down to watch the West Coast run of the show. So if you don't know, Dancing with the Stars runs at 8 p.m. time. The only time that matters. The only time that matters. And you can watch it live East Coast, Central, and Mountain Time. They do not show it live. Mat: So if you don't know, Dancing the Stars runs at eight PM Eastern Standard Time. The only time that matters. And you can watch it live in East Coast, Central, and Mountain Time. Okay. They do not show it live in C like on Michelle Harris: in on the West Coast. So they yeah, they have to wait till 8 p.m. local time. Right. you have to you have to get on at five and vote or else your vote doesn't count. And then you have to watch it at eight. And no one has ever understood this. So so maybe it's because five p.m. people are still trying to get home from work like they're not going to get the viewership that they want. But it's still Mat: wow, okay. You they gotta wait? Yeah, they have to wait till eight. So you gotta stay off your phone. Right. With social media. my gosh. And no one has ever understood this. Yeah, that's weird. So maybe it's 'cause like five PM people still trying to get home from work. Yeah, you're not gonna get as many viewers. Michelle Harris: weird. Mat: It's a weird, yeah. Like I said, East Eastern Standard Time is the only time so that matters. So they all get back from the premiere and Daniel Fishel even talks about like the show would end, I would do press, would be able to change, do my podcast and get home in time to watch the show. So she Okay. So she had a lot of time to to do that. So the girls sat down to watch the run of the show and the Michelle Harris: Yeah. So they all get back from the premiere and Daniel official even talks about the show would end. I would do press. I would be able to change, do my podcasts and get home in time to watch the show. like she had, so she had a lot of time to do that. So the girls sat down to watch the run of the show and the guy Mat: I see Denise sitting with all the girls as Alfonso's making an announcement. Michelle Harris: see to me sitting with all the girls as Alphonse is making the announcement. Mat: that the cast is in the ballroom and the guys are confused as to why they let Denise sit with them in that like going to the show right. Why did producers in the show let her sit with them if she quit the show? Right, if she's not filming, yeah. So the girls tell Layla to call Denise now and ask her why she quit the show. Layla calls and puts her on speaker. jeez. At one point 'cause she was like, should I do that? Like she's gonna be Michelle Harris: that the cast is in the ballroom and the guys are confused as to why they let Demi sit with them in that like going to the show is one thing, but they're like, why did producers in the show let her sit with them if she quit the show? So the girls tell Leila to call Demi now and ask her why she quit the show. Leila calls and puts her on speaker because at one point, she was like, should I do that? Like she's gonna be mad. And Miranda goes, Miranda goes, she knows she knows that we're filming. Mat: Yeah, yeah. Rena goes, she know she knows that we're filming. Right. So she shouldn't answer the phone if she doesn't want this on camera. Right. So that kind of like eases Layla's tension. So she calls and Demi says that she's done because you dragged my name through the absolute mud and made me look like a monster. She says bringing her daughter into it is where she draws the line. Michelle Harris: So she shouldn't answer the phone if she doesn't want this on camera. So that kind of like eases Layla's tension. So she calls and Demi says that she's done because you dragged my name through the absolute mud and made me look like a monster. She says bringing her daughter into it is where she draws the line. Demi says that they aren't telling the truth and they are telling it from Marciano's point of view. And she says it feels like a conspiracy theory is happening. Mat: Demise says that they aren't telling the truth and they are telling it from Marciona's point of view and she says it feels like a conspiracy theory is happening. Okay. She then says, All of you are disgusting. Okay, wow. She's like on the phone with Leila and she's like, You drag my name through the mud, you're disgusting. I'm like, Then what were with the text before? And you sat next to her at the show. Right. So definitely Michelle Harris: She then says, all of you are disgusting. So she's like on the phone, Laila, and she's like, you dragged my name through the mud. You're disgusting. I'm like, then what were with the text before? And then you sat next to her at the show and you're all smiles. So definitely weird. Laila tells me that the girls are not happy about her coming and going, and it makes it hard for them to move Mat: Layla tells me that the girls are not happy about her coming and going and it makes it hard for them to move. Michelle Harris: forward in a way. She says the girls are confused, and so was she, because this was the first time she heard the context of why she was leaving. Layla says the girls have a right to know why Demi is leaving, and point Demi tells Layla that they can call her. She tells Layla that she doesn't appreciate her calling to get information and then going to tell the girls. She's on speaker with all the husbands and all the girls. Mat: She says the girls are confused, and so was she, because this was the first time she heard the context of why leaving. Right. Layla says the girls have a right to know why Demi is leaving, and at that point Demi tells Layla that they can call her. She tells Layla that she doesn't appreciate her calling to get information and then going to tell the girls. Meanwhile she's on the speakerphone. Awesome. Michelle Harris: Taylor in an interview says she's frustrated and since they don't know prior, they get surprised when she doesn't show up to things. She says when one gets to hide, it's not fair because filming then falls to all the other girls. Mat: Taylor in an interview says she's frustrated and since they don't know prior, they get surprised when she doesn't show up to things. Right. She says when one gets to hide it's not fair because filming then falls to all the other girls. Right. Michelle Harris: Layla hangs up the phone with like, okay, bye. And hangs up the phone basically onto me and all the girls start talking about what just happened. Jordan then interrupts just to repeat the obvious, like he always does. This has become like an internet meme that's exploded where like even the girls of Secret Lives of Mormon wives has like recreated this and and Mat: Layla hangs up the phone with okay bye and hangs up the phone basically on Dene and all the girls start talking about what just happened. Jordan then interrupts just to repeat the obvious he always does. This has become like an internet meme that's exploded. Like even the girls of Circles and Morton Oise have like recreated this and and Michelle Harris: it's the theatrics of how he says it. And it's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. She doesn't want to film, but she has Mat: It's the theatrics of how he it and it's like, Wait, wait, wait, hold on. She doesn't want to film but she has no Michelle Harris: no problem going on dancing with the stars in her dress and sitting with the secret lives of Mormon wives, but she's not filming. And they're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mat: problem going on dancing with the stars in her dress and sitting with the secret lives of more and wives. But she's not filming. And they're like, Yeah Yeah, that's the gist of it. Michelle Harris: We got that. Like we're already there. Jesse then like doesn't even acknowledge that. And she goes, I'm just so sick of people leaving and then expecting them to like have us chase them for answers. Like don't make me call you to be like, why did you quit? Why don't you meet with us and be like, Hey you guys, I'm leaving because of this. Mat: chase them for answers. don't make me call you. Yeah. Why did you quit? Why don't you meet with us? Right. And be like, hey you guys, I'm leaving because this. Michelle Harris: Right. What's Jordan's deal? Mat: Right. What's Jordan's deal? Is he slow or like is he just trying to like insert himself and be part of it? Does it just like take him time to like click and then he's talks or Michelle Harris: he just trying to insert himself and be part of it? Just like take him time to like click and like box? don't know, but like I honestly think he doesn't want the drama to be about him, but he wants- all the other- Mat: the drama be about him. he's trying to emphasize all the other drama other than what's going on in his relationship. Yeah, you can't if you can't be bold. No, especially when there is drama surrounding you. Yeah. And you don't want that, you should probably just like kind of step back a little bit and Yeah, with Laylo. Yeah. Simmer down. No, he definitely loves being the center of attention, but he just doesn't want it to be about Michelle Harris: But he wants to be the center of attention. Yeah, you can't. You can't be both. No, especially when there is drama surrounding you. Yeah. And you don't want that. You should probably just like kind of step back a little bit. Yeah, like lay low. Yeah. Like simmer down. Yeah. No, he definitely loves being the center of attention, but he just doesn't want it to be about him. Right. OK. Interesting. Or if it is about him, he's not wrong. Mat: Right. Okay. Interesting. Or if it is about him, he's not wrong. At this point though, Harry shows up. And Dakota is pissed. So Mason tells Michelle Harris: At this point though, Harry shows up and Dakota is pissed. So Mason tells Dakota that Harry is there for Taylor. Dakota says it's not cool. And he tells Mason he feels like he's going to get into a fight tonight. Mat: Taylor. Dakota says it's not cool and he tells Mason he feels like he's going to get into a fight tonight. jeez. Michelle Harris: Harry asks Taylor what she's looking for and Taylor says a green flag and Macy says she attracts red ones. Mat: Harry asks Taylor what she's looking for, and Taylor says a green flag. And Macy says she red ones. And he thought inviting Harry was a green flag. Macy in an interview earlier says that he was known for being a fuckboy when she was explaining who Harry was. So clearly they know his reputation, and why did she say she's looking for a green flag? This is the biggest red flag, I think, in all of reality TV. Michelle Harris: And you thought inviting Harry was a green flag? Macy in an interview earlier says that he was known for being a fuck boy when she was explaining who Harry was. So clearly they know his reputation. And then she's saying she's looking for green flag. This is the biggest red flag, I think, in all of reality TV. Mason thinks that Taylor clearly cares about Dakota. But this is crazy. Dakota calls this vindictive and says that he would never intentionally Mat: But this is crazy. Dakota calls this vindictive and says that he would never Michelle Harris: try to hurt Taylor, but she is always trying to rub things in his face. And like, this is malicious. Jordan then tells Taylor not to rub it in Dakota's face. And Taylor tells him, don't even dare. He rubs everything in my face and says that she doesn't give a flying fuck. Mat: But she is always trying to rub things in his face, and like this is malicious. Okay. Jordan then tells Taylor not to rub it in Dakota's face, and Taylor tells him, Don't even dare, he rubs everything in my face, and says that she doesn't give a funny fuck. When Jordan kind of like pushes back on like Michelle Harris: When Jordan pushes back on like, what did he rub in your face? She kind of goes off in a little bit of tangent, but her big sticking point was, well, when I had a newborn and he was talking to like, what's her face, you know, that wasn't fair to me. So like, I really just don't give a fuck. And then she like walks away and Jessie goes, that's my bachelorette. And Taylor goes, I'm going to have a Mat: face she goes off on a little bit of tangent but her big sticking point was well when I had a newborn and he was talking to like what's her face you know that wasn't fair to me so like I I really just don't give a fuck. And she like walks away. Okay. And Jesse goes that's my bachelorette and have a lot Michelle Harris: lot of fun with this. And that's the end of that. Mat: Okay. So we're just we're ending, we're still there. We're still there. Harry's there. I think we'll be in LA throughout the next episode because you see Whitney filming with them, they're still at the house. So they're staying in LA for a bit. Okay. to either film or promote stuff or whatever. So yeah, Michelle Harris: We're still there. I think we'll be in LA throughout the next episode because like you see Whitney filming with them. They're still at the house. So they're staying in LA for like a little bit to either film or promote stuff or whatever. So yeah, We'll be there when we come back. We'll be there. Mat: We'll we'll be there. Michelle Harris: And. Yeah. I saw some previews for next week. I think we might get another truth box. I think stage coach 2.0 is about to happen. So we'll see. Yeah, guess we'll see next week. That was insane. Well, thanks for listening, everybody. sure to follow us on Instagram at reality hits Matt. That's reality hits M.A.T. Just one T and Matt. Same on TikTok at reality hits Matt. Mat: geez. Okay. That seems to be coach two point is about to happen. geez. Okay. So all right. Yeah, I guess we'll we'll see next week. That was insane. boy. 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