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MTM-Interview with R. Terrell..Are UFO's Demonic? · More Than Medicine

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to more than medicine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Our culture and our hosted by author and physician, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Robert Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_01: And his wife Carlotta and daughter Annabella.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's enough because the doctor is dead.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to More Than Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's rusty, dusty scrapbook.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm delighted today to have online with me Rebecca Terrell, who is uh a writer and author, and she's a um contributor to the New American magazine, which, by the way, I have read faithfully for probably close to 40 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh I read it back when it was review of the news before it became the New American.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh I'm delighted to have her as my guest today, Miss Rebecca.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to More Than Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's great to be back, and I remember those review of the news days because I was raised with parents who read that magazine.
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  SPEAKER_03: So Well I one of my one of my medical school buddies introduced me me to Review of the News, and I was so intrigued by it because I had never seen anything quite like it, and I started reading it faithfully, and then when it turned to New American, I I stayed with it and have read it just uh religiously uh for many, many years, and I and I've told my listeners before, uh people ask me all the time, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Jackson, how do you know all these things?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I tell 'em, it's because I read Review of the News and and because I read New American.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's very kind of you.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a that's a very um complimentary endorsement, and I appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's the truth, it's the truth.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's one of my primary sources of education and information on on political issues and and uh moral issues and a lot of the issues of the day.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, well, I I invited you today because you wrote an editorial, I guess you would call it, uh, for the New American, and it was about ufos and and about a biblical religious ex perspective on UFOs that I found rather intriguing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So uh everybody knows that there was a data dump by the federal government about UFOs, and uh tell us a little bit about that, Miss Rebecca.
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: That happened earlier this year, I believe it was June, and you know, extraterrestrial life, that's the stuff of science fiction.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: But no, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: It was May.
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  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't June, it was in May that the White House uh President Donald Trump ordered the public release of government files related to aliens and unidentified flying objects, and so they had there's a house task force on the declassification of federal secrets.
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  SPEAKER_02: They held a um uh press conference in June, that's why I was thinking June, um, where they were talking about this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, there's a whistleblower by the name of David Grush, who has been whistleblowing for years, that the federal government has recovered these non-human biologics and technology from erect UFOs.
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  SPEAKER_02: And of course, people think he's crazy, but now he's being given some credence because of the data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can find this, this is on the Pentagon's website.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is at uh www.war.gov slash UFO.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, of course, everybody's talking about this, or at least they have been over the summer, uh, especially when that data dump came, um, because it's it brought it to the forefront.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um I thought I my editor gives me a lot of latitude about what kinds of topics I can cover.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he actually has me as the as the main author for a particular column we have in the new American magazine called God Family Country.
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  SPEAKER_02: And normally that's uh supposed to be kind of inspiring about you know Americans who are standing up for our constitutional rights and and this and that, but sometimes I veer off the trail because I this has this is specifically uh very much in the realm of God, the God part of the God family country, to warn people about what those in the know are saying regarding these matters.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's easy for us to read in the scriptures about Jesus and the apostles encountering uh demoniacs, people who are possessed by the devil, and we don't think anything odd of that.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, call Jesus in.
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  SPEAKER_02: He can he can get rid of those, and it's completely legitimate.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then what we think ourselves somehow above that.
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  SPEAKER_02: What are we on a different planet?
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  SPEAKER_02: We don't have demonic possession here now.
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  SPEAKER_02: I would think that our times are probably just as bad as the times he lived in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and there's a lot of that happening.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I've often said I think one of the most clever things that the devil has done is to convince us that he does not exist.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you start talking about demonic possession, then you're one of those cuckoos who talks about extraterrestrial life.
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  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, I quote a lot of experts, and these are not now, I do quote experts in theological fields, uh, not just from the Catholic Church, which you know, a lot of people, you know, they think, oh, exorcism that goes to the movie Exorcist, and the Catholic priest was called in.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, there are exorcists in the Catholic Church, but there are also other Christian denominations who are trying to warn that this has to do directly with demonic influence.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and uh in a in a very particular, a very occult way, and we can get into that how how this how this began and how it's tied into the government and all of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um but uh the um there are other completely secular authorities who are also saying this is demonic.
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  SPEAKER_02: They they're they these are people who do not claim any allegiance to any faith whatsoever to any denomination, and they're going, yep, this is what we would call demonic, what's happening here with with UFOs and aliens.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so um well, what what are some of the what are some of the secular th people who are saying this is demonic?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, this that's why I felt it was important to write about this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you said that the what I wrote was kind of a an op-ed or you know an editorial, and it's really not.
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  SPEAKER_02: I tried to steer away from any hint of what my personal uh opinion on this is.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And just quote other people.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now you just asked who are some of the secular uh experts.
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um Jacques Vallet is one of them.
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  SPEAKER_02: He is one of the internet the pioneers of the internet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now he's I believe he's no longer with us, but he has been a big one throughout the decades since the 1940s, talking about this is this alien stuff is demonic.
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  SPEAKER_02: This has this is a spiritual more than a physical thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, there is a researcher, alien abduction researcher by the name of Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Carla Turner.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um there are others, John Keel, who's the author of a book called UFO's Operation Trojan Horse.
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  SPEAKER_02: Very interesting book.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and then one of the science, one of the researchers with the French National Council for Scientific Research, um, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pierre, I might be slaughtering his name, Garin.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's G-U-E-R-I-N.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not very good at pronouncing French, but um he's these are some of the people, and I list them in the in the article.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can find the article online at thenewamerican.com.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's probably the only article about UFOs, so it wouldn't be hard to find it.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_03: Won't be hard to find.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't be hard to find it on a little search.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, but I I called it uh the UFO deception uh or UFO disclosures, facts, fiction, or spiritual deception.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's the title of the article.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because so many people have so many opinions about what this is, and I really, really, really tried to stick just to the facts about what what has been disclosed in the government data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and other things that are curious that have happened in kind of an orbit around that data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: For instance, Steven Spielberger Spielberg's Disclosure Day came out just as the data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: Imagine that timing, isn't that coincidental?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very, very interesting coincidence.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And there was another a year ago, there was another documentary film called The Age of Disclosure.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was released 13 months prior to that release of government documents.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, these these time this timing is too coincidental to be just coincidence.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: But this is the interesting thing that I've that I found in my research.
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  SPEAKER_02: There was there are people who actively claim, yes, these are demons, they brag about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, these are demons.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've called them into this into this realm.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because you can't that demons have influence over us.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's called temptation.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: We all endure temptations to offend our Lord every day, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: We have to fight against those.
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  SPEAKER_02: We have to beg for God's grace, and He freely gives it with that act of humility of begging for it, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's the way that's our spiritual armor, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And but demonic influence can come in higher levels too, and the most the most severe would be demonic possession, which everybody thinks they know about because they've seen the movie Exorcist, The Exorcist, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or or any one of the others.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, you have to figure, okay, it comes from Hollywood.
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  SPEAKER_02: So don't base your spiritual life on a Hollywood film.
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  SPEAKER_02: But there are other levels of demonic influence.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's demonic um oppression and demonic obsession and demonic infiltration and all sorts of things that are varying on the hierarchy between just plain ordinary temptation and full out demonic possession, right?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_05: That's correct.
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  SPEAKER_02: But there are those who brag that we opened a portal.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can't just become demonically possessed just because the devil happens to want happens to want to pick on you.
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  SPEAKER_02: There has to be something that you do, and it has to be something having to do with the occult.
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  SPEAKER_02: For instance, Ouija board, tarot cards, following uh, you know, soothsayers and and palm readers and and all of this stuff, engaging in witchcraft, all the Harry Potter, those are real spells.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and people can become possessed by using them.
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  SPEAKER_02: But you have to be engaged in something occult.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I don't mean you have to be like, you know, people who are are might be living a life of sin, you know, maybe they're living in an adulterous relationship or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking about that kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's your average ordinary sin, and I'm not trying to belittle that, but I'm just saying that you have to be engaged in something of the occult, of an occult nature.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was back in 1946 that there were some occultists who um with the Ordo Templi Orientis, and I don't know if you're familiar with that, but that is the very occult offshoot of Freemasonry that was sparked by Alistair Crowley.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've heard I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Extremely perverted, extremely perverse.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um he if you have ever seen the cover of that Beatles album that has all the people on it, was it um Sergeant Peppers?
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: That has all those people on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's one of the people on the cover.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I I know that that's kind of obscure.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of an obscure frenet.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_03: No, I've I've I've heard uh people describe the meaning of some of those Beatles albums.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So but he um so this is you can read about this in a book called Outside the Circles of Time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um it's by a man named Kenneth Grant.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm not endorsing this book, but I'm saying it's got information in it regarding all of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he was an occultist, so he he wrote this book in 1980, and he bragged that the surge of UFO reports, which began around 1947, which curiously is the same year as the birth of the CIA, and I do think that there's a relation there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anybody who dives deep into these UFO disclosures is gonna find.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, that's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the surge of UFO reports that began that year was sparked by occult rituals carried out in 1946 and 1947 by the Ordo Templi Orientis, and of all things, the two people who were kind of who conducted these mystical occult ceremonies were Jack Parsons, who's who was a rocket engineer, pretty famous at that time, and L.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ron Hubbard, who founded Scientology.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and they called these series of mystical ceremonies that were opening up a portal for the demonic realms to enter into the you know the physical, the temporal sphere.
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  SPEAKER_02: They called them the Babylon Working, which right there you go, Babylon, really.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's nice.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so they opened this gateway, uh, and they and this the the Kenneth Grant calls it a gateway for non-human intelligence intelligences which only appear as visitors from another planet.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now the I quote an actual a priest who, you know, an exorcist priest about this in the article, and he explains, he just kind of he nipped it in the butt.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: He was just he's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: He um appears on a podcast called What Catholics Believe, and they were talking about this UFO issue and the data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he said that I believe that these are diabolical things, you know, these aliens, which can take advantage of modern man's credulity by presenting because you know we we really we don't have a moral compass.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: We don't believe, we we say that we believe in Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't don't anybody come step away from this conversation and think that oh Rebecca said it and that Jesus isn't my personal Lord and Savior.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's fine.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: But Jesus is not just your personal Lord and Savior, he is Lord of everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's the king of every country, he has to be the king not just of you personally, but of your family, your neighborhood, your county, your city, your state, your country.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: He is king.
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  SPEAKER_02: The buck stops with him, right?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: And we have lost that moral compass of saying Christ is king.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, Christ isn't just my he is my personal Lord and Savior, yes, but he's also king of society.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we have this modern man's credulity to to believe anything, you know, and and it don't we read that prophecy in the in the scriptures in the Bible?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: It says St.
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  SPEAKER_02: Paul said people are gonna come, and these ravening wolves, you know, false prophets are gonna try to deceive you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this priest said that he believes these diabolical things take advantage of modern man's credulity by presenting alien visitors as the and he said this is what's gonna happen.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: He's making this prediction.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: He said, This is what I think is gonna happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're getting us primed for this alien visitor to come, and he's gonna be the promised one of all religions.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: He enters this world that is filled with strife and torn by war, and he's going to bring peace.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's going to be the promised one of all the religions.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's going to be the Jewish Messiah, he's going to be the Christ of the Christians, the Mahdi of the Muslims, the Lord Maitre of the Theosophists, the Bodhisattva of the Buddhists.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: And the priest said he's going to be very convincing, and he's going to bring pri peace to this world, you know, torn by war.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he's going to be hailed by mankind as its savior, but in reality, he will be the son of perdition.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: He'll be the antichrist and the greatest fraud in the history of mankind.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, disguised as an angel of light.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: And this is this was interesting too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I ran across this and I was, you know, when I when I write these articles, I of course pray for guidance from the Holy Ghost.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um and you know, sometimes things just drop into my lap.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think I just have to say thank you.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, God.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: That was very kind of you.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: I found a rather obscure podcast called Beware of Deceptive Government Reports About to be released.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Now that doesn't say UFOs, does it?
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: When I clicked on it, sure enough, he was talking about UFOs.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is Perry Stone.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you're familiar with him.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's a Pentecostal evangelist.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in this podcast, he said that he spoke with a friend of his who's also another another pastor, and reported that he was invited to a recent meeting of federal officials.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, this was right before May.
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  SPEAKER_02: This was earlier this year, but it was in this like late winter, early spring, right before the May data dump.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right from the Pentagon.
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  SPEAKER_02: Interesting that it's the Pentagon, too, but take from that what you will.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was federal officials who called this meeting of le with leaders of various Christian denominations.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: And they were telling these pastors, you need to prepare your people and you need to get ready to answer them for questions that are come up, gonna come up about what you're about to hear being released.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: And the officials spoke of spacecrafts made of materials that aren't part of our planet, spoke of very strange reptilian-looking creatures and other totally unnatural phenomena.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, this evangelist, this Perry Stone, who who had this podcast, he speculated that a lot of this government release would be government, this document release would be a lot of government fabrications, and I don't necessarily disagree with him.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Surely I never I never make a judgment on any of this stuff.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just reporting what people are saying until the very last.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: I do make I do give you my little my little spiel on what what my take on this is at the end of the article, and we can talk about that too.
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  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, he also speculated, you know, besides the government fabrications to cover official crimes, you know, he might even have something to do with the Epstein files and all the controversy over have they been released, uh, or have they not been released, you know, do we know everything?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um he also speculated that this could be a foil to cause apostasy among Christians, because if you do have this savior coming from outer space, it calls into question the whole gospel narrative.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: It does.
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  SPEAKER_02: But then he too also Perry Stone also said he said, are these demons?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: And he kind of answered his own questions.
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  SPEAKER_02: He thinks they're demons too.
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  SPEAKER_02: A lot of different people think that they're demons.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, these these Catholic um exorcists that I quote in this article, like, look, you have these alien abduction stories, and people come back and they tell all about the horrors, you know, the torture and psychological and physical torment that they've been put through.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, that's exactly they're telling about a demonic possession.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they encounter in their exorcism sessions.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_06: Not surprised.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_06: Not surprised.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: What but I mean, getting back to what what my conclusion about all of this is we do, again, going back to that moral compass, Christ is King, Jesus speaks the truth.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: There is no other way to the Father.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: He is the way, the truth, and the light.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We do know he warned, the Apostle Paul warned, false Christs and false prophets shall arise.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we need to know whatever takes us away from that compass pointing north, whatever takes us away from that is a lie.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: It is a deception.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: It is, it is.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Sure is.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: We don't need to we don't need to wonder and worry and go, ooh, what should I do?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: We already know what we should do.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: We should proclaim Jesus not just as our personal Lord and Savior, but as Christ the King.
• 21:53
  unknown: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: The King of all the ages and the King of glory.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: And we should try try to make wake up as many people as possible, not by forcing it down their throats, but by showing them that good example of maintaining your cool.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: What's that poem?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: If you can if you can uh keep your head about you while everyone else is losing theirs.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know the poem I'm talking about?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we need to realize that you know, this any of this alien these alien stories, whether they're fact or fiction um they are a a deception uh if they do not lead us to Christ.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Now you know biblically that in when Jesus was on planet Earth two thousand years ago, there was a huge increase in demonic activity and demonic possession.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And a great deal of Jesus' ministry was t casting demons out of people who were demon possessed.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the Bible makes it plain that when Jesus comes again there will be a huge increase in demonic activity on planet Earth.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: And of course, theologians have been predicting for a long time that Jesus' return is imminent.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, here we see since the nineteen forties an increase in demonic activity.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: And so I have no doubt that these UFOs are an increase in demonic activity.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: Now, here's the question If these are aliens from another planet, does that make any sense to you when the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ, our Christ, our Messiah, died once for all, the just for the unjust to bring us to God?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if they are living aliens, living personalities on another planet, would he not have to go to their planet to die for them as well?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well right, exactly.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: You see, the Bible says he died once for all.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: The just for the unjust to bring us to God.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_03: Which leads me and most theologians to believe that there is no life on any other planet, no living human life like is on our planet.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't think there is life as you and I know it out there somewhere.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_03: The life that Christ died for is on planet Earth.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Planet Earth is the center of the universe.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: And when Christ died for us, he died for all of us on this planet and not for any other human life anywhere else in this universe.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: So if there's any life out there, it's demonic life or angelic life.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so my supposition and that of many theologians, if there are any kind of life out there with these associated with these UFOs, then it's probably demonic life and it's the activity of the enemy of our soul and his minions.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: And it is increasing activity as the time of our Lord's return is in fact imminent.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: And that's my perspective on it, and I think that's the perspective of many theologians who look at it.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now I know that a lot of people are very skeptical about all of this uh UFO activity and and the fact that they feel like there's uh alien life that they've discovered.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um and there I know that there are people who try to keep all of this quote under wraps.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I'm not surprised by it at all.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because I'm no and I'm convinced that the return of our Lord Jesus Christ is soon and very soon.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not surprised that there is an increase in uh demonic activity.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm just telling all of my listeners you keep your eyes on the Middle East because the Middle East is the center of our world and keep your eyes on the eastern sky because that's where our Lord Jesus will return from.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: And as you just said, there is only one way.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: And there's no man no way, other way that man can come to the Father but through Jesus Christ our Lord.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: He is the King.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: He's the King of the ages, He's the King of glory, He's the King of all kings, and He's the ruler of the kings of all the earth.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: And we all need to be prepared, and we need to tell all our friends and family to be prepared because He's coming back one day, and He's coming back soon.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: And all of this UFO and demonic eviden uh activity is just an evidence, Miss Rebecca, that he's coming back sooner than we expect.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: Right, and you know, to add to that thought, though, it is not this is um our loving Savior, our loving Creator who is coming, so it's not it's not a morbid thought.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, no.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: We're eagerly anticipating.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: It's not a but it's also not a morbid thought to think, okay, you know, I could die tonight.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: You could die tonight.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: That would be our our day of, you know, when Christmas.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and what I'm saying is we always have to be prepared for that moment.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we we spend our lives preparing for the hour of death.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Truly, that the hour when we finally get to go fly to our Lord, right?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: To our Creator.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_06: That's right.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: And so it I mean that that moment of Jesus' return, then quotes, is could could come at any time for us.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you always have to be prepared.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: I think every generation has thought, oh my gosh, things are so bad, it must be the end times.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I think that every generation says that.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I I differ in opinion a little bit with you.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that it's imminent.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, maybe maybe not as imminent as you do.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: I could be totally wrong, but we do know also from scripture that in the end the Jewish peoples will come back to the true faith of Jesus Christ.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: And that hasn't happened yet.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, now it could happen tomorrow.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, but uh and God willing, that would be wonderful.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, we also have you said keep your eye on the Middle East, yeah, okay, but do it in an educated way.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Realize that, you know, the nation, the current nation of Israel, was created by the United Nations in 1948, 1947, 1948.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: Curiously, right in conjunction with the CIA.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, just realize, you know, I mean, if you go over there, you can't practice Christianity, it's against the law to openly.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: You can you can go inside your house and inside your church and practice Christianity, but you can't evangelize on the street.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: You get arrested for that.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: In Israel.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Good heavens.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's not a good that's not good.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's not okay.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, just keep in mind you know what's happening right now in our world is absolutely a war against Christ.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: Just the same way.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, the people who the people who rejected Christ when he was alive and breathing air and walking on the earth, um, they rejected him because he wasn't what they had in mind that they wanted their Messiah to be.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: The great powerful warrior on the white horse coming in and you know, freeing them from the Roman oppression and all of this.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: He was a simple whore carpenter from Galilee.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Can anything good come out of Galilee?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_04: You know?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: And um they they didn't like him.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: He he wasn't fit that mold, you know, he didn't fit that fancy mold.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: So don't, you know, we need to we need to remind ourselves, hey, don't be like that.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Jesus was always humble.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: He was born in a stable, he didn't even have a bed, he had a he didn't even have a house.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: And um for for the and that example that he showed us of keep yourself humble.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: My my father, my heavenly father wants humility.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's all he wants.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: He wants that humility of I'm not it's it's not ra we depend too much.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: We've we've fallen for the lie because it's all around us of rationalism.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: You can figure it out all yourself, you can figure everything else else, everything that you need out in your head.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think you probably would have thought, oh, the Messiah would come and be a born in a stable, you know.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we know it now.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank God, because of the light of faith.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_02: But would you have been one of those people in Bethlehem who just you know, they heard the angels, the angels, it says that in the scriptures, the angels appeared and declared this to the people in Bethlehem, and they rolled over in their beds and didn't they were like, Yeah, okay.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: They were like, Oh, isn't that interesting?
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then people the shepherds from way far away had to travel a long way and come and adore the Christ child.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's why it says Mary pondered in her heart.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she wasn't going, Wow, why are they bowing down to my son?
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: She knew who he was.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: She was her she was pondering, saying, Why isn't everybody coming?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: This is the fulfillment of all the scriptures.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: A virgin born in Bethlehem, you know, born of a virgin in Bethlehem.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: Why aren't more people coming?
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: The angels are telling them, This is it.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_02: Emmanuel, he's here.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: Well, look, our time, our time is running out, Rebecca.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm having too much fun talking to you about all of this, but my time is up.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: Not a problem, not a problem.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: All right, listen, you're listening to More Than Medicine.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_03: My guest today is Rebecca Tyrell.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, she's a a writer and author with the New American, and I'm just delighted to have her with me today.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_03: Rebecca, will you come back another time?
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: All right, well, thank you very kindly.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, till next week.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: I pray that the Lord will bless you real good.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_03: And remember, Jesus loves you and your doctor loves you.
• 32:40
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