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Headless' Magical Mailbag-The Hexafoil and more · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 1: I'll take one?
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  Speaker 2: What help?
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  Speaker 1: Well? What's up? Everybody? Back again with another mail bag.
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  Speaker 1: I got my partner Nick here.
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  Speaker 2: Nick.
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  Speaker 1: Tell them how you doing? Tell them what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Tell them what's what's happening in your world?
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? How are you well?
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  Speaker 3: First off, thank you for thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: What was love doing the show?
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  Speaker 2: I guess some new things. We have got free stickers.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 3: Guys want stickers, got free ones. Sorry, the light's kind
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  Speaker 3: of fucking it up. I got free stickers. Anybody wants
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  Speaker 3: free stickers, email me or hit me up on Twitter
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  Speaker 3: and or Instagram. We also got t shirts now one
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  Speaker 3: of these, one of the shirt like that and the
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  Speaker 3: one with that silent rainbow was the twenty five dollars
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  Speaker 3: each shipped.
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  Speaker 2: And there is events that the.
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  Speaker 3: Occult Rejects will be at, and I do have some
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  Speaker 2: I had a bunch of women.
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  Speaker 3: One of them got canceled, so I'm glad I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: telling everybody about that. One October fourth, there's a bigfoot
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  Speaker 3: It's like amusement park actually inside and you did things
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  Speaker 3: Then October eighteenth, Charlie's Beyond Belief at the Tropical Lodge
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  Speaker 3: and Fort Myers. They'll be at the Masonic Lodge out there,
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  Speaker 3: and we got booth thirty three just to go along
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  Speaker 3: with the Masonic Lodge, you know, of course we have to.
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  Speaker 3: And Brook from Dark Florida, who's part of the Occult Rejects,
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  Speaker 3: will be there and she's one of the speakers and
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  Speaker 3: hopefully hopefully Thinker's Crossed I will be able to record her,
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  Speaker 3: uh you know, her whatever, her lecture and hopefully put
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  Speaker 3: it up online for everybody as well. Then October twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifth to the twenty sixth we got at Arkansas Paranormal
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  Speaker 3: Expo and that is in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: We will have a booth deaf for two days.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's another one that's for sure that's at
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  Speaker 3: November twenty second, that is a UFO thing and that
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  Speaker 3: is in Mooresville and North Carolina. Basically Charlotte and will
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  Speaker 3: be at the Army National Guard, so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they got some UFOs over there they go
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  Speaker 2: in the shows.
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  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, yeah, that's the new new shit. Uh
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  Speaker 3: free free stickers. We got T shirts and events, so
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  Speaker 3: that's what's up.
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  Speaker 1: How could they get the free stickers?
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  Speaker 3: They just got to hit me up, hit me up,
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  Speaker 3: send me their info and yeah on Instagram, Twitter, or
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  Speaker 3: I mean, somebody wants to send me an email. I
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  Speaker 3: check my emails on Ny Patriot nineteen seventy eight at
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  Speaker 3: gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, well, I don't know about the audience, but
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  Speaker 1: my town is fully tagged up everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I sent you a lot of them. Actually, did
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  Speaker 3: I send you them a few times? Because I think
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  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I'll take some more. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: fuck the them on your OUTE when you're out driving.
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  Speaker 1: Right, there's a lot of esoteric stickers in places that
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  Speaker 1: maybe people shouldn't go. But those are the people we
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  Speaker 1: weren't watching this show. So I was in bed. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a while. My cell phone service went out and
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  Speaker 1: the Wi Fi here is total garbage. So I had
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  Speaker 1: to go back to the cell of the store and
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  Speaker 1: get that all fixed. And that's why we're doing a
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  Speaker 1: late show a day early.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you're right, A late show a day early?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Fuck? How do we fuck that up? Actually? Yeah, shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I should have done it tomorrow. Sorry, we will do
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  Speaker 2: one Sunday to catch up with something I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I gotta trialogue, I gotta make up and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. And I missed all those great shows this week.
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  Speaker 3: I actually checked for your try dialogue. I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 3: let me see if my boys, and I was like, fuck,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even do his trialog today. It was like
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  Speaker 3: something else to be up with that Internet, But I
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  Speaker 3: actually checked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, hey, did you happen to uh notice that
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  Speaker 1: the hand episode is dropped on audio, So now we've
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  Speaker 1: got the symbolic hand episode that people can go listen to.
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  Speaker 1: It's still banger, It's so it's so great how all
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  Speaker 1: these different pieces come together while we're doing that episode.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I really enjoyed that. Actually, yeah, we got
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  Speaker 3: into another another episode. We got to get the feet yo.
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  Speaker 3: That is actually that is a thing. I remember. I've
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  Speaker 3: even brought that up. What's up with them always sticking
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  Speaker 3: their foot out underneath this ship?
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  Speaker 2: Doing that on purpose? That isn't like you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, they're not for this, but yeah, we gotta do
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  Speaker 1: symbolic of the feet and maybe legs too, because there's
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  Speaker 1: so much in Greek pathology about the legs. Uh, do
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  Speaker 1: you have your.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, if you want to pull it up, I have.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you know what, I gotta present my present. I'm
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  Speaker 3: slipping here, I'm slipping. Yeah, you saw that. What's up
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  Speaker 3: with the feet? What's in the box. Let's start with
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  Speaker 3: the feet, all right? So that is the hexafoil aka
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  Speaker 3: the disney wheel or daisy wheels or a daisy wheel
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  Speaker 3: and his compress drawn a rosette of six interlocking lenses,
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  Speaker 3: a six pedaled flower, often inscribed on stone, timber, and plaster,
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  Speaker 3: and it's a It shows up in medieval contexts in
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  Speaker 3: a few ways. One is a Gothic architectural motif, and
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  Speaker 3: windows and tracery, and as a appo troupe. I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know if I'm saying that right, A protective mark
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  Speaker 3: scratched by masons and householders at doors, fireplaces, and vulnerable
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  Speaker 3: spot to turn away harm. When do they think it
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  Speaker 3: first showed up? They think antiquity. The six pedal rosette
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  Speaker 3: is documented as a decorative motif since at least the
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  Speaker 3: Late Bronze Age and reappears through the Iron Age and
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  Speaker 3: Roman periods geometric and that's the geometric patterns for that one.
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  Speaker 3: The medieval adoption by the twelfth to sixteenth centuries, hexafoil
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  Speaker 3: is a standard of vocabulary in Gothic architecture. Again it's
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  Speaker 3: on stone, tracery, cloister, stained glass framing. You can literally
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  Speaker 3: find hexafoil panels and frames in major medieval churches and manuscripts,
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  Speaker 3: for example, the Italian church facades. You'll see them San
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  Speaker 3: Dominico whatever at Lucera around the thirteen hundreds, that has
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  Speaker 3: it all over it. Yeah, it has preserved cut stone
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  Speaker 3: hexafoils in it. It also used as protective ritual mark
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  Speaker 3: in Britain. In parts of Europe, compass drawing hexafoils, often
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  Speaker 3: called witch marks today are wildly recorded on late medieval
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  Speaker 3: and especially Tudor or early Modern fabric around the sixteenth
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  Speaker 3: and seventeenth centuries frequently, and they're frequently on buildings that
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  Speaker 3: themselves are medieval. Whereas it has been been seen and
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  Speaker 3: used again in churches and kind of medieval sites. It's
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  Speaker 3: been seen in Portuguese cathedrals also as well, again on fabric,
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  Speaker 3: and what does it mean. It's kind of a protective thing. Again,
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  Speaker 3: they describe hexofoils as marks toward off evil or demons.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of, you know, sometimes associated with witchcraft or
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  Speaker 3: even considered almost like a like goes along with the
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  Speaker 3: evil eye, something kind of like that to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of spirits, cosmological or solar or storm associations. Some scholars
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  Speaker 3: read that rosette as they read the rosette as a
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  Speaker 3: solar emblem or a thunderwheel linked to Indo European storm gods.
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  Speaker 2: This is a.
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  Speaker 3: Scholarleer to interpretation rather than a single medieval doction, just
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  Speaker 3: to let people know that. And there's in Britain the
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  Speaker 3: hexafoil often appears alongside Marian monograms, so something maybe up
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  Speaker 3: with that too, And h yeah, I think that's a
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  Speaker 3: pretty much enough.
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  Speaker 1: That flower of life type motif really picked up from
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  Speaker 1: the hexafoil, right, so, yes, right, So they kind of
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  Speaker 1: rebranded and relabeled the hexafoil as this flower of life
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  Speaker 1: thing in the nineteen seventies because this guy went over
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  Speaker 1: to Egypt and he found it one of these ruined
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  Speaker 1: Egyptian temples and he brought it back and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: this is the flower of life. He could be found
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  Speaker 1: all over the world, and he starts naming him off
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  Speaker 1: and this is where we have that mythology today. But
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  Speaker 1: the hexafoil in that case, they went to the place
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about and they found it. It was
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  Speaker 1: actually graffiti, Christian graffiti over top of the hieroglyphics that
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  Speaker 1: were there originally. So what the guy was seeing was
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  Speaker 1: actually a heck sign and so sincofoil, heck sigde. It's
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  Speaker 1: all sort of in that same male u. So it
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  Speaker 1: really is you know, Late Bronze Age originated, but it
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  Speaker 1: was done by the Christians on the temples of the
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  Speaker 1: Late Bronze Age.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 3: Even people are even saying in the chat this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm even thinking about it now. Even when I went
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  Speaker 3: to fuck I think DC in Nashville, those scenes were
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  Speaker 3: on like, oh you remember, I think those scenes were
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  Speaker 3: on a lot of buildings that I filmed, just like
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  Speaker 3: you know, it looked a little bit more artistic, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: those things are on everything.
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  Speaker 2: If you think about it, a lot of shit, they
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  Speaker 2: aren't a lot of shit.
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  Speaker 1: Well, i'd have to measure it. But I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: seeing ratios there that can be used in architecture. So
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  Speaker 1: they said it can be drawn with the compass. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if this is like at the basis of how
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  Speaker 1: they measure out and create the beams for the structure.
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  Speaker 1: So as you would connect those lines on the inside,
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  Speaker 1: you would also be calculating the archways and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: using this sort of symbol as the basis point for
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  Speaker 1: what your measurement should be when you're making these fantastic things.
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  Speaker 1: Because I didn't think they were working off blueprints, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the same way we do. They had to kind of
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  Speaker 1: wing it and understand what the ratios would be so
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  Speaker 1: that the structure sticks together and actually resonates at a
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  Speaker 1: certain frequency. So using rosette like that or some other
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  Speaker 1: geometric figures and using the interior line work, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could actually calculate the width and depth and height
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  Speaker 1: of the structure. So there's a lot that you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it goes goes into the whole
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  Speaker 1: fractal idea. You could turn that into sort of like
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  Speaker 1: the basis point, and then all of the things off
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  Speaker 1: of it are like fractals kind of like the pentagram.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's another thing too, Like even
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  Speaker 3: like you were saying before, when I saw that that image, well,
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  Speaker 3: when I first like went to start looking for images,
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  Speaker 3: obviously a Wikipedia just seems so we show up a lot,
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  Speaker 3: you know, images on things if they have them. So
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  Speaker 3: when I clicked on the image, it brought me there
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  Speaker 3: and I noticed that, like what you were saying down
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  Speaker 3: below it, it was showing how you got into like almost
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  Speaker 3: that sacred geomedy geometry fractal shit from that, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and like same exact thing that you said.
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  Speaker 2: You'll see it.
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  Speaker 3: Actually done on Wikipedia, showing you how I went from
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  Speaker 3: there to there.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, Candice Owen's has a kind of cemented a
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  Speaker 1: phrase that helped her to understand what was happening within
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  Speaker 1: the conspiracy world, which is the Midas touch. So I
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  Speaker 1: thought I would bring up King Midas, right, nice, the
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  Speaker 1: guy who turned everything to gold with the touch. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's so common the way she uses it. She says
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  Speaker 1: that the elites will pick somebody and then they'll just
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  Speaker 1: have a free ride all the way up to the top,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like Ammanu Macron. He didn't really have to
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  Speaker 1: go to school. He didn't really have any qualifications for
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  Speaker 1: the jobs that he had. You know, he was like
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  Speaker 1: the head central banker for the Rothschilds and all the
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  Speaker 1: rest of this. So she refers to him as being
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  Speaker 1: one of these individuals blessed with the Midas touch. So
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  Speaker 1: there are probably lots of other ones in that same situation,
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  Speaker 1: and when you're looking in the background, they don't really
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  Speaker 1: have anything to back up their credentials, but somehow they
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  Speaker 1: make it to the top. And so King Midas is
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  Speaker 1: king of Phrygia, right, So you've heard us talk over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over again about the Phrygian cap, right,
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  Speaker 1: So this is in three kind of south of Thrace,
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  Speaker 1: and so this is the king over there, right. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of mythology attached to this guy and
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  Speaker 1: that region specifically, especially the Phrygian cap. Many myths came
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  Speaker 1: to be associateated about it. Members of the Phrygian royal house.
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  Speaker 1: So his father was Gordius from the Gordian Knot idea,
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  Speaker 1: and that was one of the trials of Alexander the Great.
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  Speaker 1: He has to get through the Gordian Knot and he
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  Speaker 1: decides he's just gonna fucking cut it. So his mother
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  Speaker 1: was Kibali. The most famous king Midas. Yeah, so he's
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  Speaker 1: like right in the middle of all that stuff. Is
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  Speaker 1: remembered in Greek mythology for his ability to turn everything
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  Speaker 1: he touched into pure gold, and this came to be
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  Speaker 1: called the Golden touch or the Midas touch. Legends told
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  Speaker 1: about this. Midas as A and his adopted father Gordius
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  Speaker 1: credited with founding the Phrygian capital city of Gordium and
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  Speaker 1: tying the Gordian knot. And so actually that kind of
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  Speaker 1: goes into your symbol too, right, So the flower of
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  Speaker 1: life is supposed to be kind of like this not
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  Speaker 1: work as well. There's several symbols, including the Norse symbol
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  Speaker 1: that I keep bringing up with the three triangles that
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  Speaker 1: are sort of like these not work ideas. This was
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  Speaker 1: in the second millennium BCE, before the Trojan War. Homer
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  Speaker 1: does not mention Midas or Gordius, while instead mentioning two
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  Speaker 1: other Phrygian kings, Migdun and Otreus. My DM was presumably
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  Speaker 1: named after him, and this probably also Midas. According to
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  Speaker 1: the Pausanaeus founded Ankrea today known as Ankara. Another king, Midas,
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  Speaker 1: ruled Phrygia in the late eighth century BCE. Most historians
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  Speaker 1: believe this might as to be the same person as Mita,
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  Speaker 1: called King of the Mushki in Assyrian text, who ward
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  Speaker 1: with the with Assyria and it's Anatolian provinces. If you
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  Speaker 1: think about the differences in how the Neo Assyrian saw
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  Speaker 1: the world versus how the Greeks saw the world, and
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  Speaker 1: how they interpret the same characters, and the Greeks give
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  Speaker 1: you stuff like this, whereas the Neo Assyrians give you
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  Speaker 1: like stick figures with strange bug eyes. It's like, it's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting how these two different cultures are depicting the
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  Speaker 1: same area and the same events in totally different ways.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, you said the bug eyes, You're right, right, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They've got the Sumerian bug eyes where it just seems
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  Speaker 1: like their eyes are too big for their face. Oh yeah, retillion, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so that was kind of the Neo Assyrian style,
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  Speaker 1: and they they basically kept a continuity with the motifs
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  Speaker 1: coming through the Samerians, right, and so you see this
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  Speaker 1: a lot with the what do you call them Canaanite Phoenicians.
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  Speaker 1: They keep so they've got more advanced art styles, but
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  Speaker 1: they keep the eye style of the Samarans, which is
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  Speaker 1: really interesting to me. It's like you're claiming ancestry in
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  Speaker 1: how you make these different figures. There's more to it
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  Speaker 1: than just, you know, simple shapes. These are actually a
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  Speaker 1: continuity that stay throughout the century. So there's a Midas
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  Speaker 1: monument in Phrygia that dates back to about seven hundred BCE,
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  Speaker 1: and many contradictory legends about the most ancient king Midas.
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  Speaker 1: In one, Midas was king of Pessanists, a city of Phrygia,
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  Speaker 1: who as a child who was adopted by King Gordias
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  Speaker 1: and Kaibali, the goddess whose consort was and who by
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  Speaker 1: some accounts was the goddess mother of Midas himself. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this ky belief figure almost creates people out of nothing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a parthenogenesis. So in Thracius Migdonia, Herotodas referred to
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  Speaker 1: a wild rose garden at the foot of Mount Bermion
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  Speaker 1: as the garden of Midas, son of Gordius, where roses
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  Speaker 1: grew of themselves and each bearing sixty blossoms and surpassing
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  Speaker 1: in fragrance. So apparently there's mystic bushes associated with him
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean the mystic bush motif you see happening
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  Speaker 1: over and over again, and lots of different cultures around
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  Speaker 1: the area, and the Phrygian culture was sort of like
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  Speaker 1: the bridge or the crossway between the east and the west,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Greece being in the west, and then all
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  Speaker 1: the rest of this off is down south and east
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  Speaker 1: of that point. And so Phrygia really did become one
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  Speaker 1: of these crossover hubs for a lot of different cultures
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of different happenings. And what Herodia, Now,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't herodidas I believe it was Plato that said
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  Speaker 1: that the Phrygians and the Egyptians had a contest of
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  Speaker 1: which society was ancient, and instead of the Egyptians even
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  Speaker 1: putting up a fight, they just gave up there like
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  Speaker 1: you guys beat us. The Phrygians are the oldest in
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  Speaker 1: the world. And so that was the idea back then.
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  Speaker 1: And you see Kaibli as this figure that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: a constant all throughout the most ancient times in Phrygia.
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  Speaker 1: So this ancient goddess worship really did influence everything else.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the most primary things. And so
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  Speaker 1: people get all freaked out with the addas worship and
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  Speaker 1: the self castration and all the rest of that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: which did come out of Phrygia, right, didn't come out
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  Speaker 1: of Thrace. It didn't come out of this region. But
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  Speaker 1: you have to go back and say, yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: actually super super like forty five thousand years ancient. Like
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  Speaker 1: stop going on. You know a lot of people, right,
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't give Phrygia their due. But like,
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  Speaker 1: we even have the Frygian cap on our seal for
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  Speaker 1: the army today.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I've heard you and other people
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  Speaker 2: even bring that word up.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, you know the smurf hat.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you told me that I had no
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: idea when you told me that shit.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: No, I had no idea that Gargamel made that blonde
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: bitch right to infiltrate the Smurfs.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I had no idea until recently.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And like so, there was there was no females in
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Smurf society until this wizard created one out of the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: dust and then put her there to take them down.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: But think about the other creation bets right, who's the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: first woman in Greek mythology? First two minute women.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, actually, now you're close.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: She's got a box. We thought they all do, Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they do, but this one was the first. This was
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Pandora's box.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I was thinking of something else.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you that that was the call.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, she was the first woman, and she was
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: made as a punishment to man. She's created her as
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a punishment and then gave her the box and said,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: don't open it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Oh you really how to do it too?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: With you?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to create woman.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Right, that's exactly. And then Gardener me, same idea. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: gonna create a woman that's gonna fuck with you. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: she's the first one to take the bite of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: apple too. It's it's really interesting how they you know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they viewed women as a punishment a lot of times.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: How do you know Adam didn't bite the apple just
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to get the fuck out of the gar and away
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: from even right, it gets away from you, lady.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: That whole situation is just so bizarre. It's like, if
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you go back to the root histories of that that mythology,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it sounds nothing like it. It's like this space tail
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: between this crazy uh chaos dragon who gets forgiven by
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the way. So at the end of the story, in
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the original mythology, this viper causes them to become mortals, right,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So he's sort of guarding the tree, and as they
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: take a bite from the tree, he bites them and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: then they become mortals. Before that, they were immortal. And
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: so it's like the Fall in the Garden. There's so
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: many crossovers between the original myth and what they have
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in the Bible. But it's like they perverted it in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: ways that make it really like guilt driven and everything else.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So it's they changed the original mythology to make it
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: more guilt which I think is kind of interesting. They're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: kind of making an admission there without saying it. It's like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: we use this as a weapon. But uh, let's see
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we got emails hopefully.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, yo, check this out.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: You know what if people send in, if people send
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: in a story, send in your address and I'll send
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: you free stickers to there you.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Go, Yo, did you hear that? Guys?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So and I send out any keep it to keep
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it magically, you know the magician eight.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: So you'll get eight free stickers.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You got it, So you got to get those emails
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: out about your weird. God damn it. Why does it
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: have to be so autistic?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: He's so, he's like, I got you, Dick. I was
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: gonna send it the stickers anyway. But he's like, all right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a story too.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about my email.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: No, no, somebody knows somebody in the kid figure. He says,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I got you, Dick.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well you know where to send it. It's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send the story there and send me the address.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I got you. We got that, uh infuriating. Got that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: kid Alexander coming back on this Saturday. That's something upcoming.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Oh what's that?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Were you want with him the first time? Maybe not?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: He was that smart Polish kid. He like wrote a book.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's uh really good with like megalithic stuff and
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: science and the spirituality, like mixing both. Yeah, he's got
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: my I think two o'clock. I think this Saturday.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: We got very nice.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah cool dude. Yeah, he send me a book
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: and everything. I haven't got it yet, but he did
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: send it to me. Really nice, really nice dude. Yoh,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: he's mad young too, dude. I think he's only like
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: in his early twenties. I had asked him when I was.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Like, Yo, what the fuck?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when you see, you're gonna be like, holy shit,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: this kid is smart for like, you're gonna be like
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I wish it was like fucking like that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I hit his age.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: All right, So this is one I have from I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: guess we're gonna call her bad hat Harriet. Oh alright,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: listens tomorrow. Ah, she's in the chat.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we see her a lot. I like it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: She's supposed to be star on her own podcast too.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: L let's freaking go. High head listens tomorrow. I hope
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you are well and enjoying your summer. At one point
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a few years back, twenty fifteen ish, I was deep
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: into studying root work and herbs. After reading mugwort Tea
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: was known for aiding with lucid dreaming. I bought some
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to try. Here are two dreams I experienced after drinking mugwort.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had mugwort?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it tastes like shit.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't like Yeah, it's not good. It's kind
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: of like musty a little bit, you know what I mean.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: It tastes like dust.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried like making tea with it. I've also
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: tried smoking it. Well, I tried to smoking it with
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: all the ship right, Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: a fan of it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Well I used to. I used to have accult club
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: at the college I was going to, and I would
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: just brew up a thing of mugwort tea and bring
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it with me and everybody would drink the mug wort
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: at the school library is awesome?
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Is that where it's supposed to like, uh, it's supposed
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: to be like a natural like not it's a dead sedative,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: but you aren't. You supposed to catch like a slight
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: buzz from it too.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a really interesting high. It's not like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, smoking weed or anything that extreme. It's just
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: like a relax levels at your yeah, it levels at
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: your vegas nerve. It it's a really easy way to relax.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And it's nothing like uh, it's not even like cradle
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: like I've had cretem tea before that's more extreme than mugwart.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Mug worts far more gentle. And so when you when
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you can actually brew it up with other flavors that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are actually good, So I would do mugwort hibiscus tea,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and once you've got those flavors interacting, it's actually quite decent.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: That is interesting. You said it helps relax, like through
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the vegas nerve, right.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just sort of calms the body down, all right.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So this is the first dream. After hiking up a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: winding trail up a mountain that seemed more like a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: twisty grinch who stole Christmas Christmas tree, I was met
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: midway by a faceless, cloaked man who had come out
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of a small crystal grotto or cave. Without talking. He
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: handed me an old pink vinyl binder with my masking
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: tape label on the front of it, with my name
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: written in capital letters in a black marker. It looked
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: like a binder I might have had in Grade four
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: under my name. Also in marker was written a Kashik record.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I rushed to open it and see the contents, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a last sealed shut. He shook his head and took
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: my pointer finger in his hand and pushed it far
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: up my nose.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It was weird, but.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I trusted him. I felt something hard and cold, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: when I pulled it out, it was a long quartz,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: clear crystal. I felt very vulnerable, yet better and clearer
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: without it plugged up. There, I wish I could remember more.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's the first dream. Oh wow, this is
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the second dream mission dream. Flying dreams are my favorite dreams.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Even before the Mugwort tea, I would dream of squatting
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: down in a corner of a room and lift off.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I would float up into the ceiling, or sometimes go
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: fly in a park or forest. These dreams would be
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so joyful, I almost would say a spiritual, wet dream.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I would wake up in such bliss, tears of joy flowing.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: This time was different. After drinking the tea, I went
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to bed and fell asleep. The dream started in the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: usual manner of me going to the corner of my bedroom,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: going into a deep squat and leaping, arms raised above
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: my head, hands clasp. I flew straight up and kept
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: going up through the ceiling, up through the treetops and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: skies darkness, And then then I was in what I
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: would describe as a bright white chrome oval room. Taking
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: up most of the room was a white oval conference
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: table and chairs. The walls had chrome countertops, and above
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the small rectangular windows, little blue and red lights in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a meeting. A meeting had just ended, chairs were not
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: pushed in all the way into the table, and there
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: was a person at one of the counters shuffling and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: stacking up papers as she was just had taught class
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and was tidying up for the next group. She didn't
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: notice me at first. She was very tall and beautiful,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: wearing a tight white spicy jumpsuit. She had short black hair,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: high cheekbones, blue eyes, red lips. She moved like a cat.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Seemed to my presence, and she sends my presence and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: looked up from her work. There was recognition in her eyes.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: We were friends, I sensed, but she was annoyed at
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: me and scared. She said, what are you doing here?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: She looked at my disheveled hair, beige T shirt, khaki sweatshorts,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: rolling her eyes. I look dirty and sweaty, earthy. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: guess what if someone sees you in that? She said,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you are not supposed to be here. You need to
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: go back to your mission. That's all I remember. My
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: takes on this dream have changed over the years. Was
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: this police or government agency? I was doing undercover work
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: for some galactic space cop operation? Or something deeper. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: have no clue. I think I need to order some
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: more Mugwort tea and see if I go back. Well,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it sounds like I've got a mission too. I need
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to order some more Mugwort tea and see what was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: going on there. But now it's kind of interesting that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a Kashak record and the other one seemed kind of related,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Like what if this is the pre uh incarnation phase?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And so she's she's back into the board room where
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: she had just you know, gotten out and then into
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the earthly realm, and now she's visiting again, but she's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: not supposed to be there. She still has a mission
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: on earth, almost astra projection.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Fucking I like these dreams.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Right, what's your interpretation? Do you have anything that's said
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: out to you?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Hell no, I mean I honestly thought the crystal up
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the nose was really good.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Right, I think that's funny. So she was being guided
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to remove like crystallized energy or something out of the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: head so that she could access things like the Akasha record.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It was almost like instructive or healing dream. Right. You
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: have that sort of angle you've you've been instructed on
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: how to clear your your senses.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, interesting, I got dogs like crystal meth. That
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: makes sense, pull some crystal meth out to those.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Right, well normally, actually you're going to reverse. Instead of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: pulling the crystals out, you putting the crystal.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: That's true reverse, right, With enough.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Pressure and heat, you could actually probably turn it into
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: a much bigger crystal.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, people, you hear that. If you got any stories,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: just to you know, help sweeten the deal here, I mean,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: because you know we're asking so much for an email,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I'll send I'll send some stickers to you if you
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: send in a story, Uh, leave the email, leave the
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: address with the address with Headless and he'll show forward
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: it over to me and they'll send out the stickers.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So right, So, if if you want, if you want
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to be a real you know, Headless fan, what you
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gotta do is you got to get mug wort. You
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: have to get hibiscus, and you have to get like
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: maybe orange peels. Orange peels work well, but like you
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: mix those together and then drink that tea before bed,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and then you write the emails to me about what
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: happens next. Right on factory farming these emails for the show.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You've got to drink the Mugwort tea and then go
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to bed and then write me an email and that
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: will be the next show is everybody go out there,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: gets a mugwort tea, mix it up, see if you
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: can make something you like. And the best recipes too.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: If you've got a really good recipe for mugwort team,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: just go ahead and send that to me as well,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because recipes are always enjoyed. If you have any magical
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: formulas maybe that you use. Right, Hey, do you remember
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the game that we would play as like kids, where
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you would like take a deep breath and then stand
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: up against the wall real fast.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen people do that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Ship that was big in the army. You know, they
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: can't get high, they can't get drunk, so they're out
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: there passing out.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It was like I was gone for years and then
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I just came back.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: That's wow.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Have any of those experiences send them in.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. We don't recommend it. So many people
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: fucking die playing that game. Mostly it's because people are
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: paying attention to where they're standing, so they'll just fall
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: down and like stab themselves fucking nuts.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Oh Euros is asking hellas was in the army. Yes, yeah, yeah,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: eros yours. We got to hit you Yes, sorry sorry
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: it's row. We got to hit you up, Euros. I
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: wanted to get you. I was actually thinking about earlier
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: today when I have her wrung for like the indeads,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: she's been covering them with the pultinis.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get around for this. Yeah. Yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I've been really on it on that guy's stuff. Man,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I really, I really think.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: That dude, Platinus is awesome. Like there's so much crossover
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: between your episode and what I'm studying when it comes
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to early Christianity and all the rest of these influences.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: He's so in there like that that is like neo
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Platinism is Platinas.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, basically yeah, they'll even say that basically from him. Yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And so you're talking about all these magical traditions of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, theurgy and all these other things that
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: come through that whole circle of Neoplatinism during the second
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: century a d. And a lot of people just sleep
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: on it. They're just like, Oh, I read Plato, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I read Aristotle, oh.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I mean he even covers stuff, he's got stuff on site.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: He even gets into the eyeballs too, and in heads. Yeah,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: pretty interesting stuff, that dude.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was impressed.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Right. It's funny all these philosophers have their own opinions
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: on things like site and like the senses and stuff,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and they include that in their work. And it's funny
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: because you could see all the cultural influences and how
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: they see the world because they're literally telling you how
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: they think you see the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: is fun. But this has been a great episode. So
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: we'll see you again next time. I don't know. Do
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you want to do another one tomorrow?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we'll see. Actually I might be able
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: to yeah, yeah, if you want.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll fit it in there about thirty minutes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's not that bad. I was thinking maybe we should
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: do like a thirty minute show a day, you know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: maybe not me and you, but.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Just oh no, no, yeah, I have thought about yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: doing it like well.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: That's why I had said I wanted to continue this
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and actually make this a thing, is because I do
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: actually think these are good ideas. So yeah, no, no,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: especially if it's like actually has information and it's something
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: small and short like this. I think people love that
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: stuff absolutely. Yeah, all right, we will see you again
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: tomorrow around the same time.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Later