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A Big Cat Attack · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, along with my
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partner. Brian Sigler, I'm Curtis Wilson
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Ron. How was your evening?
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I'm not even mad, but I'm not mad after that game.
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Had a rigatoni, Rosa, which is rigatoni, Brown, and a pink
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sauce with mushrooms, spinach chicken, and this will be great
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to you, homemade sausage on top. That here with my lovely bride.
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Watched Almost Famous kept an eye on some of the games.
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I'm not ready, either? In folks, we should be mad.
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We should hang your url, but in are seven stages of grief, we're
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past it. Hokies fall 4714 to pit and, you
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know, me and Brian were texting as the game ended and stuff.
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And it was just like, you know, he texted he was you know having
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this and relaxed hit total when I was doing relaxed are older.
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You're my oldest son Brian's on there at the end lost tonight.
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So kind of a free night for us because the little one on
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weekends here goes down about 720 Ryan.
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Clearly you have the whole house to yourself to just, relax and
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sort of take it back. Yeah, I'm not.
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At we're at the point now where good or bad.
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We kind of expected some of the shit we saw today's.
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So yeah it didn't really, it didn't hit like that.
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I mean it just it's more, reaffirming everything that we
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kind of thought was already going on and was already
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trending in a certain direction. This this one just kind of put
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you know the fucking icing on the cake in terms of how bad it
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was and especially how bad it was.
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In the second. Half after you played pretty
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damn bad in the first half but we're within shouting distance
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of say. Well, if we come out we do our
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right the second half we can make this thing a game.
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Yeah. And then you just completely
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take a dump on the field. Brian.
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I literally am looking here at my notes and I wrote in the
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store they can have made a couple things and about third
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line down I quit from below that is what my wife wanted from the
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Restaurant. We went to the night.
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What I wanted. The order number.
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And then find the movie. So you were like I quit.
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Fuck it! Take out.
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What I have. Your red.
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Yes. You know, 10 beverages in like,
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90 minutes, which is not safe. But bra not, we're sitting here
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and we were talking about it before you hit record and we
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looked Y'all. This is they talked about 80
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last year. So much after Duke.
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After dupe, this was essentially part Deux of the Duke game.
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Yeah, over a year later. And me, and Brian were looking,
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and it's easy to figure out, and it's sort of, as a cataclysm of
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where we are as a program. Since Juke last year, we are ten
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and eight student template, and just a few weeks 10 and 9.
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If we play like we did today or last week or against the Liberty
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organ. Sweet.
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Fucking Forest, 10 and 10. And as we were sitting here,
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could we go through all the plays?
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Yeah, a lot of things, we sing for things we've harped on.
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But what we did tonight is a little different and We look at
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what was said after the game, by the head coach of the Virginia
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Tech Hokies, Justin for one that we pulled some specific quotes
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from him, the kind of show that it he's got to go.
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He has to go in. Chocolate brown tonight.
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We're 50 million in the red, right?
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Because of covid. What 60 million?
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Hoping, if you're, if you're already having to dig yourself
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out a whole, another Dino 10 inches and going to really make
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or break you, he's not, you know, I think what's going to
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hurt more is not only the recruiting stuff, but if we're
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Babcock keeps home, There's going to be shot to that Stadium
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next year where it's 40,000 people.
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It's going to look pitiful ever from henceforth and really it
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started before this. But I mean really since Liberty
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and now it's only compounded. The last two weeks every day, we
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go without making some sort of move to a new staff is hurting
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the Virginia Tech brand. He already here with recruits
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hurting it with donors, hurting it with national perception.
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And it's something we don't need, it's something we don't
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need. It's pretty insane to think that
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Brian since 1977 43 years ago Virginia Tech has had for
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football, coaches for Jimmy sharp bill, Dooley, Frank,
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Beamer Jetson for Wednesday it is time for the fifth and in
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let's start with the first quote, Prime that just You don't
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you want to talk about like this sort of you want to talk about
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getting back to the hangar? I think I mean you there someone
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and I cannot quote the media member that did it?
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I wish I could because we did not listen to the pressure.
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We're pulling off quotes from Mike McDaniel.
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Mike Missoula, Norm would David teal?
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Mike Barber all those got better and better.
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First one, Brian, somebody asked for Wednesday.
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Would he take? Over the play, calling duty,
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legit question, right? You just scored 14 points, he
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scored 24 over 4 weeks ago. You scored 16 against Wake
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Forest. Ready for the ready for the
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quote Brian? Let's say the loud and then you
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can just go. No.
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That's the most ludicrous crap I've ever heard.
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There's staff. Not get the most out of this
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offense and not making adjustments fast enough to get
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the offense comfortable, where they can put up consistent
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points, even when they're playing from behind.
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That's what's Ludacris. That's what's frustrating.
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That's where we've been as a fan base for a while.
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I mean free for all the good and evil.
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That happened last year after the Duke game, there were still
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moments of, like head-scratching.
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What the fuck with this offense? And it's reared.
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Its ugly head again this year and it's gotten to a point where
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loyalty to this man is going to cost went to his job.
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Yes it is. The, I mean that's that's the
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long and short of it loyalty to brag or Nelson is going to cost
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12 his job. If one take is doing a damn fine
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job of getting himself fired on his own.
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Yes they are. But I think without this blind
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loyalty to someone that is hurting you.
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And ultimately again you're getting him fired by making this
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bad decision. If you fire him then he's fired.
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If you don't fire him and you end up losing games, you're
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getting fired. And you know who else is getting
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fired with that happens. God fucking buddy, got say it,
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but who else is hurts? Yeah, Cole Brown earlier those
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Schembechler. What?
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1985 1986 the team, the team, the team all Justin Fuente party
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is the team, the team, the team. And I'm not just talking about
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the players on the field, he's hurting them, he is hurting
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every single assistant coach on the staff.
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He is hurting every single trainer on that.
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He's hurting all the recruiting Personnel, guys.
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He is hurting the fundraiser, folks.
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He is hurting, literally the entire Virginia Tech athletic
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team by. Not letting one individual go
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by, not essentially saying I love you as a friend.
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You can't do that. This level, Brad cornelison
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before. Before he got hired at Memphis.
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He was in D fucking to He wasn't, he wasn't even had a
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group of five school. This is, this is not a big time
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coach that know is having a bad run.
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This is a coach that has been propped up by Justin Fuente
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since he became a division 1 head coach fucking truth and man
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you know there's there's these times in your life where it's
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like but we did all the film we were super tight enough. 15
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years ago Dude. Come on, think I have no need
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for 22. 23 years math, right? Dip during said, hey there been
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times where we've said to each other.
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Did you doing some dumb shit? Oh yeah.
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Yeah, I can think of one in particular that we won't share
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on this podcast and that was you to me?
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I'm going to take the L on that one, but you have those
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conversation? If you, if you truly deeply he's
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your friend. You literally say I forgot to
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let you go. Man, I've got to take things
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away from you. I need you to grow because I
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said here right now and here's going to be let's let's do this
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problem real quick. This is unplanned.
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He's saying this is the most ludicrous crap ever heard, okay.
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I want to start going through the coaches and I want to start
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on the defensive side and come through will Ryan Smith.
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Get another job at a division one P5 or G5 school.
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If he is let go, I'd say based on the turnover at the position,
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Ryan Smith has Done better than his pay this year, Ron Smith?
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Yes, yeah. All right.
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Let's go next to create Tracy claeys.
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He's done a very poor job with Virginia Tech, but I think his
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resume he will get a job somewhere else.
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All right. What's the offensive line?
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Let's start with Bill, pee on it.
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Bill may just get to pick his job.
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Like there's there's not going to be seeing already the
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defensive line without the right people look better.
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It was one of their worst games but still what we're six in the
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country in sacks and I know that some linebackers and other
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things, but a lot of that's attributed to the defensive line
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it's not even a question Darryl Tapp Of course.
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Darryl Tapp might be retained just because he's Darryl Tapp.
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Yep. And in let's just look it up in
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hand with them. There's not a person, you know,
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most Virginia Tech fans that mean you communicate with or in
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the same do that us he wasn't ready to do this.
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He wasn't ready yet. He's trying he's giving it the
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effort but he needed a few more seasons of standing with either
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a defensive coordinator, you know what he did to have?
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He didn't have that. That super but you know like
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when in your career your life, you think you're ready for
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something, but most people know you're not quite there any and
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you get that interview where they give you the interview
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because they know that you're, you're a fast Riser and they
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want to kind of see where it is. Usually in those cases though
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that person doesn't get the job and they end up growing as a
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result of that because they double down on getting Better.
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This is the opportunity for J, Hamm to double down on getting
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better, but he was handed the job.
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They're getting the gospel double down and getting better
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but usually wouldn't you get that interview and usually do a
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good job. You get pulled in with the
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essentially, the person way up and they give you all the great
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feedback but they also about not long after you're giving some
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extra responsibilities so probably have been the year, if
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bud, or if we had brought in Barry Odom Force.
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One else where it probably would have been Dreamin.
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Sorry, you're going to paint. I'm gonna call the play with
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you're going to desire. If you give it to be drawn up
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the place you're going to exit node and that's what he's
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missing because again when you can say from a corporate and for
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institutional type trouble, that's how it usually works.
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It makes sense. We were just, hey, here it is.
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You know, we really wish right now they would go back and I'm
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going to hold Pride on something.
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I told you I noticed today But maybe they should hire Tracy.
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Claeys is a defensive coordinator and let Pam just a
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safety coach or Cody sees or some bullshit like that.
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But either way. All right.
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Let's go to the offensive side of the ball real quick.
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So, essentially everyone on the defense including Justin
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Hamilton will probably find a P5 or G5 pretty easily, right,
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Jiang, Xiao best? Yeah, he's tired.
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He's some guy real fast. Retain him retained and if we
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don't hire shame. All right.
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Let's go next Jafar Williams. I think your father would
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probably find a G5 job to get a P5 job.
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Is that right? He couldn't know what he came to
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us from Maryland, right? Yeah.
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And he's coached at Rutgers and places like that.
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So I think he would find somewhere Because again, why our
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senior prom, it's not like blowing your mind but it's not
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so bad. It's a I mean he taught them
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sumbitches to block. Well yes you can get fired for
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that. These guys can catch what can
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they do, block, you know, I got called, all right um this is an
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interesting one because he's so tied to the head coach and
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liking Berg. Oh man, it's tough.
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He's done a good job with recruiting, especially giucose
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and transfers. He's done a pretty good job.
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Recruiting in general. Yeah, I like what we got out of
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Herbert, this year. I'm not certain about the or to
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what degree he was controlling the rotation in terms of.
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Depth there because I think we were using Blackshear
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incorrectly. And that and not getting
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Colston. And some of those other younger
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guys reps when we needed them to get reps.
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So, I think that's kind of a toss-up, but I think just based
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on the type of recruiting, that he can do.
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And the fact that he's now, Coach tape at a position that
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has had pretty good success at the power 5 level Heat, at least
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get a G5 roll, if nothing else. He definitely going to be top
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roll. I think it's what you talk about
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the Juco recruiting. That's where a lot of D5 live.
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Yeah, I think that up. I think you found one in a
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heartbeat guidance, is a would probably be a guy that can go to
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an elite dr. King's School in my opinion,
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can't fight without a doubt, you know, devices at work.
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Is going to make a lateral move. He's going to be, he's going to
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be an upper mid tier power 5 job if not an elite level power 5
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job. I don't even think well I run I
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think he will go up if they get fired.
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He is not retain and I don't keep saying retaining because we
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don't know potential who could be brought in.
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They could say dude I love your work.
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I'm going to get you twenty five thousand extra under me.
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I mean the the biggest thing is that whoever we bring in is
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going to be who they already have relationships with that,
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they You can actually get to come here because, you know,
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unless it's a complete philosophical mismatch.
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I mean, if you don't have a no line coach in mind, I couldn't,
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I missed it. What we do will happen.
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Well, that green to a tight end in a row.
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A game. Yes, sir, one of mr.
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Stieglitz trailer. No.
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Then a lot of that was Jerrod carrying a load there and more
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seasoned and very veteran. Orientable, went a come into,
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what were you in FL receivers? Yeah, don't even.
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I mean, let's not even joke about that is three NFL
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receivers is one big reason. Why in he's the only one a yeah,
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no previous P5. Or G5 experience.
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Who this? Somebody I think someone will
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probably come on say well what about Vans Vice?
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Well you want to know because the other guys is kind of
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documented where they've been and, you know, you kind of take
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a look at Vance Vice and his career been twice in his career.
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He was at you LM. He was that Clemson back in the
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late 1990s. He's been at a few places and
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his work is showing not only in recruiting but also in the
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development of guys, especially he's Going to have a left
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tackle, that's going to be taken in the first round.
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He can hang his hat on. Yep.
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So we literally just went through every member of the
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coaching staff and we're literally saying everyone can
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get hired by a P5 or G5 School except one.
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And then people can say well he broke all the records here,
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don't even get us started on that, please don't.
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We've been fans for too long and we have seen the Bad and the
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reason he's breaking records is because for years, it was bad,
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it was terrible. So yeah, Brian, another quote
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You going to love this one, buddy.
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The lack of 3rd and 4th Down success.
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Ready for the people. Yeah.
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I'm gonna need you to take some accountability for that one
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boss. Yeah, I'm gonna need you to take
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a lot of ownership because that that is that saying that?
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I mean are you going to make that same statement against
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Liberty? Because I mean the same shit
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happened against Liberty against Wake Forest.
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I mean, if you're making the argument, is that a good enough
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players to be teams that have mostly two stars?
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Or you're saying you can't develop these guys.
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Like me at some point, just say we fucked up.
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There you go. Don't don't usually ask for it
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because it's a press conference but say you know, we didn't do a
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good job of preparing the players before the game and we
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didn't do a good job of getting them in positions to make plays
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on key downs. We say, we want the biggest
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bullshit was the one that absolutely blew the game wide
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open. Open.
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Yep. What We've ran that play with
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for it's been pretty successful over the last four years.
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Yeah man you sit here and you're like you're at the what it's the
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one yard line, right. The one You have jhelum.
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Okay, let's turn 26 pounds. Taylor's a big, sumbitch huge.
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You've got guys, like, James Mitchell.
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And I know, Tre turnitin play in the second half.
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You've got guys like mother you stupid motherfucker, pardon my
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French because I do think he is a good person.
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I really did. I think he probably has his
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flaws but I think you know overall good person again we are
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assessing Coaching on-field product and what they're saying.
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And doing as a coaching staff, this is not an indictment on
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their character, or who they are as a person.
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It's an indictment on how they are coaching and how they are
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responding to the coaching that they've done.
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Let me tell you what patent are do.
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You said fourth and one we tell you now, I gotta run.
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Lead everybody just gut just go down crash.
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Well coach, what if they don't If they don't it's on me.
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We got to leave. Follow me.
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We are up at that point on. They kicked a field goal.
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So it's 26:14. We're up 12.
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We've scored on three consecutive drives.
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I think we're going to keep scoring guys, it's on me, crash
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it, they crashed it. and, Run. That's the play I told you.
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I was in the car for, all right? Yeah, yeah.
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At halftime my youngest, son, whenever our in-laws, I had to
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help my father-in-law, move some furniture.
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And before coming back home and I'm driving down my road here in
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the West End and that play happens in, why don't listen to
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all the radio broadcast. But when I'm out, I do have to
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run an errand. Or, you know, traveling or some.
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I listen to John laser. Mike burn up in as many times
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I've listened to them and it's not all the time so they're
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probably moments where they sounded as a first time I've
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ever heard Mike burn up and John laser sound eject.
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It on the radio. They sounded to ejected firms
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alumni. That's cool.
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Get it for him. Laser the play-by-play guy who
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you can feel, he's invested a lot of time.
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He cares about the program, they Yeah.
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I mean, it's some point when you're predictable shit like
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that happens. Man, it's true.
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I mean, it's one thing to like, go with your bread and butter,
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but it's another thing to like that that is an elite defensive
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front, it is and you're just, you're going to run your bread
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and butter play that you know. You know, that they watched
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hours of tape on this, they have know that they are prepared and
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know that they have the ability to make the play.
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If the call is, right. So if you talk about the
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ownership piece, 3 of 14 today on third and fourth down 3 of
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14, that's been the theme of the Season man.
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Even even in the good games, it's damn true.
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All, but it's being true and you just wishing said, well, you
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know, when you play good people, yeah, they're good defense.
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But he's, he's a damn good defensive coach.
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And as much as I hate the son of a bitch, if you told me, he got
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fired from pit and I'm you guys said why mahara Narducci I'd be
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like I'm good at that. I don't know how we, as fans
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accept him. Like, yeah, we called you an
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asshole. A lot.
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It was long as he would be like, yeah, I know, I'm an asshole.
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I get it. What do you sit here?
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And it's just like it's the same things, it's the best play of
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the game. You mentioned it.
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Brian. The best play of the game was we
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were in quarterback off tackle. They sucked in.
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And we threw it deep. Yeah.
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And I think you might have said something was texting me, like
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something about going to play calling.
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I said, one Corning call that play.
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Just see how happy for Wednesday was on the sideline, warning
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call that play man and it was, it was a position that it was so
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The different position at that was the down distance how the
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play was ran. If the throw one in there in the
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ones going to get a positive game.
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He was it wasn't going to be a big loss.
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It was perfect what we talked about second now play called.
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We're going to be key and I'm not sure if that happened on
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second down or not, it, but we had some terrible second down
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play calls, which is why third and fourth down.
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Whoops, atrocious, when you can't get yourself in position
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to essentially get it or when we got some of those good, third
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and fourth down numbers, we ran some just terrible plays or some
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predictable plays and you just like Now, what can you do about
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it? So it's frustrating man, and I
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mean we've highlighted it a lot in games past, so, you know,
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it's frustrating that we keep having to have these same
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discussions every game win or lose.
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But mostly, I mean, it's the first time.
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What was the, the staff we just saw first time since 92 that we
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haven't won a game in November, haven't won a game in November
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and will not only game in November.
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Yep. The that was the last regular
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who's 28 years? Yeah.
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This is its admin, it's it's sad and it's sad that went a has let
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it come to this before. Making the types of changes that
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he would have needed to make to keep things moving forward.
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Because I feel like, I mean, let's go ahead and let the cat
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out of the bad man. I mean this game is definitely a
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If it's possible for us to get the buyout that sumbitch out.
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But yeah, just just got nothing. I think we're just, we're beyond
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the point where we can say, give him one more year.
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I don't want to hear about the circumstances surrounding covid.
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I don't care about any of that shit.
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We're at the point now where we've seen consistently that
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these same types of things are happening each week during the
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season. Even when we win them, we're
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still seeing some of those negative.
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Things rear their heads? Yeah, it's definition of
30:25
insanity. Is what it is.
30:26
Yeah, we are doing the same thing over and over there.
30:32
Are things coming out about stories, we're hearing and
30:34
stuff. Holy crap!
30:36
What? I'm going to play by zero there
30:39
and we're seeing some players say things again, coaching
30:44
product, what you see on the field?
30:47
The same stuff is happening if the same stuff is happening
30:51
again. Yeah.
30:52
Brian. Do you played you coached, you
30:55
see things differently? It's great.
30:57
But when it's, which means, which again, it always gives you
31:02
a leg up on a common fan. Like me, I'm grateful to have a
31:06
friend, like, bronze Eagle, because I can ask, why, why he
31:12
can give me a detailed explanation.
31:14
But when the common fan like me, Me sees it.
31:17
It's like dude those guys is you just mentioned are watching
31:23
hours upon hours upon hours of tape.
31:26
They have analysts that are watching hours upon hours of
31:28
tape documenting small little things than to go back and
31:32
teach. Yep.
31:34
In from make a stake here. We haven't heard it out of
31:43
certain people's mouths, but we've read it.
31:46
Numerous places by numerous people Gary kill said and called
31:52
out. Corn said, he doesn't know how
31:54
to break tape down. He doesn't know how to do
31:56
certain things. What they did?
32:01
he did nothing and that's detrimental because it's in
32:07
here, it's like, dude, if he's telling you this, and we do
32:11
nothing because it made like we've said that it before run,
32:15
his design, Focus designs are really fucking good, but if he
32:20
can't read and break down game film, eventually that's going to
32:23
get to a point when you have to call a play in the game, where,
32:26
if you don't do that, well, it's going to adversely affect you
32:30
and it doesn't Alone yummy if I've got a lot of good plays in
32:34
my pocket that I can't call because the other team is
32:36
stopping them. I've got to figure I've got as a
32:39
coach there that I've got to do something different.
32:42
Yeah and it seems like he doesn't He's got a lot of good
32:47
plays against generic defense, but he doesn't have a lot of
32:51
good plays, that will work situationally against the
32:57
defense's that we play. And I think that's why you see
33:00
him some slow to make adjustments in games.
33:05
And almost seemed like he's Kind of beating a dead horse with
33:09
play calls like this is supposed to work.
33:11
This is supposed to work. Now, is not working.
33:14
Do something different, man. Again, it's why he is not a D1
33:19
head coach or a D1 coach. And here's another thing.
33:23
I mean, you know, we take a look at Just consistently like, you
33:30
know, you said I played I coach I probably give coaches more
33:36
leash than your average fan because I've been there and
33:41
understand that, not every single thing that goes wrong is
33:45
the coach's fault. I'm not I'm not going to
33:47
scapegoat the coach right out the gate and that's you know,
33:51
for good or ill that that that's my situation when I when I look
33:56
at But I look at film, and when I look at things like that
34:01
moment by moment, things can look like execution, but when
34:06
you start putting pieces together, game by game and
34:09
stacking them stack, and I'm stacking them and you see
34:11
Trends, that's coaching that if that's coaching that management.
34:18
Yes. You continue to see the same
34:19
Trends in the same people, it's in his Putting them in a
34:30
position to do good things or you you're not looking at them
34:34
and saying, okay, well, we're failing at execution here and
34:37
you're not drilling enough in practice, where they learn it to
34:40
the point where they can execute it.
34:41
It's true, man. I mean, and I think that's the
34:44
bigger point is, you're not seeing it and you don't know how
34:47
to communicate it. And if you're not seeing it
34:51
because man, we worked in situations in our professional
34:55
lives where there are people that you tell them.
34:59
Hey this is where the struggles are.
35:00
Here's some things you can do to fix it.
35:02
How many people have you seen? And this is all walks of life,
35:07
all variants of life, you tell them.
35:09
Hey, this is what I'm seeing. And, you know, here's some
35:11
things you can do better than ever.
35:13
Oh yeah, you're right. You know, I don't do this well
35:16
and you hear them. It's like, yeah.
35:18
And then month later same thing again, it's like I'm I'm I'm
35:26
telling you what you're doing, wrong, giving you some advice,
35:29
it did get rest in any in any part of your life, especially
35:34
with kids. And you know, younger adults and
35:39
stuff and like that. Hey, you know, remember I said
35:42
when you do that you should do this.
35:44
Yeah. But I didn't do that and you're
35:46
like, well, why not? I don't know.
36:05
You know, you need to go to work, the library, get all your
36:21
work done. Then go out and Frolic.
36:23
And if you hear a lot of took the 10, and I got a tattoo.
36:27
Well, how are you working? Oh, I'm doing this in this.
36:31
I'm like you're going to fuck up.
36:35
Right. Yeah, and essentially, it's
36:39
going to be really hard, comes with politicians.
36:42
Are they talking about? But in reality during a kill,
36:46
you know, people that came in is probably said, hey, here's where
36:49
the screws are, here's how you can fix it.
36:51
I have a feeling Jerry kill looked at for Wednesday and
36:54
said, hey dude, you'll have to do it this year, but maybe next
36:58
year you need call please. Because what I'm seeing from
37:04
Brad, I'm telling him these things to work on a little
37:08
better to help him get better at, he's not doing it and I'll
37:11
ask him after the game and I just didn't do that.
37:14
Why didn't I told you to do it? Now, I remember.
37:21
Like one of my favorite things because I mean, we're an offense
37:25
that was pretty Innovative at the time, getting the city, but
37:29
one of my favorite things was like Monday morning film
37:32
session. And what would when Marty would
37:36
show was plays that we were running specifically for the
37:38
opponent that we were playing that week and they weren't even
37:43
or Playbook they were some brand new shit.
37:47
And that shit got us excited that that was something that we
37:50
look forward to each week, was putting those plays in and then
37:54
eventually, you might be able to use some players, you use here,
37:57
and another team later in the year.
37:59
And you know, it's nice but having wrinkles every week to
38:03
keep teams off balance and I don't, I don't feel like we ever
38:09
do that. I feel like Brad is stuck.
38:13
Stuck in this. We do what we do shit.
38:15
Like if what we do ain't working that don't do what we do.
38:21
You someday, make it up, do something different.
38:27
This is it's like hey hey hey stop for a second.
38:37
Get your hands. I'll get my Jeanette.
38:39
See here. It's like let's chill with the
38:43
offense. What?
38:43
We're probably going to hit that a couple more times.
38:45
Let's defense div give up 47 a day.
38:48
They aren't off the hook, but here's what really grinds my
38:56
gears. Here's the quote folks and this
38:58
is and I'm gonna throw some animal.
38:59
Let Brian go to it afterwards, eventually, you got to be able
39:04
to cover and Tackle. Well, Brian, the first six
39:09
possessions this defense played their fucking nuts off.
39:14
Yeah, they got off the field when they needed to, they got a
39:19
turnover and they forced puns. First, six possessions three
39:23
field goals of pick into pumps, Nine points.
39:30
We gave them zero support and don't get me wrong.
39:34
We were sitting here and, you know, What we're talking about
39:39
different things. And one thing I brought up to
39:41
Brian and if y'all noticed it please When Bronson's is out
39:47
Monday, put on there right after a defensive play called, they
39:52
showed a picture for went a and Hamilton Hamilton probably about
39:55
4 to 5 feet to the fire left affluent and he's just kind of
40:01
standing there with his arms folded.
40:04
Not signaling in anything. Doesn't have a place you didn't
40:07
hand you even with the mask you can't.
40:12
Unless he, unless he's the very, very unemotional talker, which
40:16
from the stuff I've heard Justin is not a very unemotional
40:19
talker. I don't think Justin Hamilton is
40:22
calling, please. In my heart of hearts, I do not
40:27
think he's calling plays because I go back to the years.
40:29
You see bud. I looked at Alex Grinch tonight
40:32
in the Oklahoma game, I've looked at some of these other
40:35
guys usually defensive coordinators, if they're not
40:37
directly calling in the place, they have their unit in other
40:41
units. They're trying to get in
40:42
position, you saw blood for so many years given an signals,
40:46
right? Even number and signal, He just
40:51
standing there, like don't believe her on.
40:56
It's odd, it's odd that you've noticed that I didn't pick that
41:00
up. So kudos to you for, for seeing
41:03
that. I mean, it's, it's potentially a
41:07
scenario that he keeps. He might not be bone calling
41:10
plays at this point. I don't know if that's something
41:12
that is new this week, or if it's something that's been going
41:17
on here since like, I don't know.
41:23
UNC or whatever, whatever the game was, when the duties were
41:27
pulled, I don't know if that's the case but you know, we had
41:32
heard Whispers that that was a potential scenario.
41:36
So maybe that is something that is happening.
41:40
Maybe Tracy. Claeys is calling the defense,
41:42
maybe maybe you know, I'm not I'm not where I don't think we
41:46
should speculate much further past that just because it's
41:49
nothing is concrete and we don't know what the No imaginations on
41:55
the sidelines are really taking place but it's an interesting
42:00
thing that to talk about for a little bit there because that,
42:03
that kind of, it would say a lot about the situation in general.
42:08
I think so, I think Johnson Hamilton to guy who changed
42:13
position three times in college Who worked his way up, from UVA
42:17
wise back to his alma mater. I think if they had told him a
42:22
Justin, we're going to bring in Tracy, we couldn't get buried
42:24
because the money we're gonna bring in Tracy, we're going to
42:27
Meanwhile, Cody sees I we're going to put your title on
42:31
because we feel like you're getting there and we want you to
42:33
really to, you know, you're essentially going to be Tracy's,
42:37
you're going to be second in command, you're gonna be more
42:40
the rah-rah guy, Tracy's gonna be doing protocol and stuff and
42:45
I think that's what it is. Brian, can I ask a question?
42:49
Yep. How'd you feel about Jacqueline
42:50
today? It was very feast or famine.
42:57
We had moments where we look like A competent team we
43:03
tackled. And then we had moments where we
43:05
just look like We we didn't know what we were doing.
43:09
And when we had opportunities, we weren't grab them by the nuts
43:14
and seizing those opportunities. Another thing, dip ones.
43:25
We talked about the play the play.
43:27
Yeah. All right.
43:30
The play before the one-yard touchdown was about 13, yard
43:34
Gainer. Yeah.
43:35
Looks like a just a just a little wide receiver alert saw
43:41
that. We were playing off coverage
43:43
which we played pretty much the whole damn game.
43:49
It we're going with that sumbitch.
43:51
Yeah and You know, quick alert play, get the ball and wide
43:56
receivers hands at. Right?
43:58
A door, just in front of the line of scrimmage and you had
44:03
three guys bearing down on him and somehow he's like sideline
44:08
juking. These entire three guys, trying
44:11
to tackle him and he gets the turns.
44:13
What should have been like a four-yard gain into a 13-yard
44:17
gain that puts them, you know, right at the doorstep there.
44:23
And I'm just looking at my son like somebody attack instead of
44:28
letting him just dictate the turn, you have the sidelines
44:32
attack like your you've outflank.
44:34
Tim, you got three guys, and you've got the sideline to your
44:38
advantage. A toddler's, are you doing Ron's
44:42
almost in here? Saying, hey fuckers.
44:44
If he steps out of bounds of to tackle, yeah, I'll get credit
44:47
for He wants to dance just push it.
44:52
Yeah, the tackling in my notes here and show got again.
44:57
I stopped halfway through because of the pissed off - and
45:00
same bullshit. Bullshit.
45:02
It was it was there were times coming tomorrow.
45:04
Connor made some incredible open field tackles today.
45:09
It was some incredible. Really like man up using
45:12
leveraging getting the guy to the right spot and then there
45:15
were those oh this is going to be like a four yard game to arm
45:19
arm swipe and you're just like, oh my God, see all this the what
45:24
is it? The Jonah Hill from Jonah Hill
45:28
from Moneyball when he's like, you know, Jesus Christ in Braun
45:37
you one of our One of our big Keys.
45:40
One of our biggest keys on Thursday night when we sat here
45:44
and we talked, you said, it's got to be tackling, tackling
45:50
tackling. And you know, it wasn't today
45:58
in, if you can't tackle, it use, leverage, it has enough Talent.
46:05
They're going to beat you. We make pick it look like
46:08
fucking Marino today. Yep.
46:10
Here it takes me. The play calls, you know, we
46:13
blitzed alive. But there were times we were
46:15
playing. I still don't get the off plays.
46:18
There was some off, please wear it.
46:19
Legitimately, we were 10 to 12 yards off line scrimmage.
46:23
Pick a just how hot route of got it out as quick as you could,
46:26
and they were getting 78 yards. Why are we doing that?
46:31
I mean when you got a quarter like for the things that pick it
46:35
does. Well, I mean he's a smart
46:39
quarterback. Yes he's a smart quarterback.
46:42
He has a good. He got us, he's got a snap arm
46:44
to. Yeah you get that shit out
46:46
quick. So you're essentially playing
46:49
into like we're picking gets in trouble, is with his
46:53
decision-making at times. Like he's a like technically he
46:57
is a damn fine quarterback and if you're just going to Give him
47:01
seven yards like he's going to take it every time and if you
47:08
couple that with a missed tackle here, there those are big gains.
47:12
Yes, they are. And then as soon as you know,
47:14
that's working other things start working because everything
47:17
else opens up and now the defense has focused here and now
47:21
he's got some other opportunities elsewhere.
47:23
We did a decent job in the in the Run game but we just let
47:28
picket tear us up. Yeah, I mean, The lutely tear us
47:32
up. Some people were pissed about we
47:34
gave up 150 yard but you know I think for me and you if you said
47:37
we were at 100 and excuse me boys?
47:41
If we were at 150 yards giving up on the rush, we do.
47:43
Okay, that's fine. Yeah, they only average in 104,
47:47
so we only gave up 40 yards. So, you know, on 10 extra
47:51
carries that that's fine. I mean, take it there for 40
47:55
Ford, a 7010, eight yards of throw I mean Jesus Lord in
48:04
something that some people said and I'm not sure if this was
48:07
part of the quotes, I did not have this quoted /.
48:09
The head coach but you know we were down two guys too.
48:16
And Brian you and I we just had to be very careful.
48:19
What did you say, Brian? No, no, you don't, we boys.
48:26
We not. The fuck up.
48:32
Not walk up. I mean, at some point, you know,
48:35
we talked about the do what you do on on offense.
48:38
I mean, you don't play scared on defense just because you got a
48:42
couple backups in there. Now you don't go out there and
48:45
put them in position where they get exploited, but you still let
48:49
them fucking play. Yeah.
48:53
Like we Evan flow too much between being way too
48:57
overprotective, and then way to negligent, like there's got to
49:01
be some sort of middle ground in there.
49:03
We can find out and say okay well we're not going to put you
49:07
out on Islands, the whole game but we're still going to let you
49:10
play football and not be passive.
49:13
You know we talked about at least against Miami.
49:16
We felt like we were dictating terms.
49:18
We didn't dictate terms today, man.
49:21
We didn't dictate shit. By the way, Braun you said
49:24
negligent? Can we write that down and send
49:26
that over to wit? What, what, what?
49:33
Yeah, negligence contracts. Although you know some of the
49:44
stuff that's been said, like the most ludicrous is, like that's
49:48
very negligent, not playing. Call of Duty, is one of my new
49:55
favorite gifts is girl wanting to brick wall, like that's
49:59
negligent. Don't tell people to do that,
50:02
that's stupid. But yeah, the defense does
50:05
deserve a bronc they gave up 23 in the first day.
50:10
Of up 24 in the second. But when you essentially say of
50:14
the first, our first six drives, we did nothing and they held up
50:17
at nine. Give up nine points.
50:21
I mean, eventually when I mean I was looking at one point time of
50:25
possession, we're thinking the first quarter, it was like 11 to
50:30
4 like what Come on. They ended up like 35 to 24, 35,
50:39
and a half to 24 and a half, so they dominated time of
50:43
possession. Absolutely, I mean for a team,
50:47
that is a running team. yeah, so you kind of sit here and kind of
51:03
the last piece we're going to head tonight folks and by the
51:06
way Harbaugh is going to be walking away at the end of the
51:09
season but they pull out the win over Rutgers Tennessee.
51:13
Volunteer fans. If you know any and your family
51:15
asked them how pissed they are about not hiring Schiano one
51:21
person they can directly blame for that.
51:24
Yeah I mean you know Place Travis had that that hole.
51:29
Campaign against hiring Schiano and in Tennessee.
51:33
And in hindsight, that's looking like a bad call there.
51:38
You know, I'm Cheon has landed on his feet, has been
51:41
competitive in the Big Ten right away, right out the gate and
51:47
meanwhile Tennessee. You still flailing despite
51:50
pulling in some pretty decent recruiting classes and already
51:54
having a fairly Talent Rich program to begin with.
51:57
So Yeah. Sorry Chelsea fans you know you
52:06
much like you know a lot of times that happens you kind of
52:08
fit into the bullshit and let a good one, go away there and I'm
52:13
looking at Tom Allen doing the postgame speech, I have not
52:17
heard it. I've only seen it because every
52:18
time it's been up has been muted.
52:22
Give me a coke plant that give me like that.
52:25
That you saw how the adjustments were made.
52:27
Today. They were getting, they were
52:29
down twenty one. The first half they made
52:32
adjustments, both sides of the ball and I'll say it while want
52:37
to draft and people can laugh at me and say, has been brought up.
52:42
Ladies and gentlemen. Hey listen, I'm still gonna play
52:46
that one next year. No team's quarterback.
52:50
Should throw three picks. And be up over 21 points noting,
52:56
that tells me you have way too many good people on your team.
52:58
All right, last quote, last quote, fun about doing Saturday
53:03
night drinking and watching football last quote, he said and
53:08
I'm Brian, I'm sure you're going to like this one up because you
53:10
brought it to my attention and it sounds like you were happy as
53:14
you were reading it aloud. I don't know that.
53:17
Anybody understands how hard this is not talking about the
53:22
last three weeks but going back to the spring.
53:28
Every program in the damn country is dealing with this
53:33
shit. There are certain you know one
53:36
or two things here. There that are specific to the
53:39
Virginia Tech program but everyone's been struggling with
53:43
this. I don't want excuses.
53:46
I don't we're not at a point where excuses work.
53:51
This is your five. I don't want excuses.
53:55
I want all my shit, get take take ownership.
53:58
I would much respect that whether you know whether we're
54:02
able to buy you out or not, don't go outside, not taking
54:06
ownership in the situation and saying, well, covid and
54:10
everything that we've been dealing with with covid.
54:13
And that's my best went a and personation there.
54:17
I don't, I'm not as good as who is it on the on Packer and
54:21
Durham that does is it is a packer no not yet.
54:24
No, no, it's pack. Course not there is not nervous
54:26
Packer. Okay, your nails.
54:28
It. Yeah.
54:29
So you know that that will that was my best.
54:31
I'm not as good as Packer. So I'm going to leave that to
54:34
him going forward. Yeah, now just take ownership.
54:37
I mean, you're not, you're not teaching your players to handle
54:41
the situation, right? The fan base is tired of it.
54:45
The donors are tired of it. I mean some point, just going to
54:48
say you know what, we didn't do our jobs.
54:52
Well today and we put our kids In places where they could make
54:56
enough place. Yep, and two-handed hooker in
55:00
hooker, got to go got a little little chippy.
55:06
Did we support you? We won't just you guys to be put
55:08
in the best possible position to win because you the entire team
55:13
we have is a talented bunch of guys.
55:17
Yep. And I mean, I'll say this we're
55:20
going to rock with you the rest of the way.
55:22
Damn, right. I'm not gonna into Weeks when we
55:25
playing Clemson, which is potentially going to be an 8:00
55:28
night game. Jesus, Lord, it might get really
55:35
ugly will be here, talking about it, maybe in a catatonic state,
55:39
but we're rocking with you, I'm not turning off the TV and if
55:42
you're so cute Finn you shouldn't because the more
55:46
viewers helps Drive the revenues help gets the money.
55:51
I will say this people that talking about well I don't want
55:54
to give up donation donate again and you know, because if he's
55:58
there that's not going to help the program alone.
56:01
What you need to do is when you, as you seen, numerous people on
56:05
Twitter, doing they do their donation, fire the coach this
56:09
happen. Email, the ad things like that.
56:15
We know we don't have the money to to make that truly, you know,
56:21
the one that can really knock it off but the thing is those small
56:25
donations can add up all those small donations are going to
56:29
help the next staff that comes in, right?
56:33
Yeah. So You know, in terms of getting
56:37
the 10 million that's that's going to be something that's
56:41
going to happen between donors and tourism Board of visitors
56:43
and things like that, that there's going to be very few
56:47
individual efforts on the the average fan that's going to help
56:51
that the average fan is going to help build that scholarship
56:55
fund. Yep, for the recruitment for the
56:57
next guys that are going to be coming in on that staff.
57:00
So I ask you a question, Braun. Yeah.
57:04
I would have to look at them and say infrastructure be damned.
57:09
Different things we want to do, but getting there, if we don't
57:14
stop it here, it's not going to be there.
57:16
It's going to be significantly further down the road until we
57:19
can get it done. We got to start weighing your
57:24
options. You know, we can talk salary
57:27
pools and we can talk this that and the third and I think until
57:31
we make the decision on Fuente and see kind of what's left
57:37
after the dust settles. You know, I think it's going to
57:41
be hard to roadmap what that's going to look like.
57:43
Obviously in a perfect world. We'd want the salary pool to go
57:46
up a little bit because that does help entice better talent
57:52
to come here in terms of coaching and it does give you
57:55
more flexibility to work contracts.
57:58
If you have a specific higher you want to make.
58:02
Now I don't want us just throwing big bucks at anybody's
58:08
name just to get them to come here.
58:09
That's not what I'm saying. That's not what Virginia Tech
58:11
should be doing. That's not a good use of
58:14
resources but I don't want us to have to say tell Barry Odom.
58:18
We can't. You know, match 850,000 and let
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him walk when, as long as we work the rest of the salary,
58:28
right? We can make that work.
58:30
Yep. Hey Brian real quick.
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Let's hit this right. Go back in order.
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Things that are above us. If think holy christening happen
58:44
right now, that either people are going to step away get
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fired. All right, I think top of the
58:51
pecking order and there's two and you can people can say what
58:56
they want to say about one of the two, but one of them is not
59:01
even a doubt. I don't think it's going to
59:02
happen. Michigan's bother.
59:06
There is no question about that. Right.
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Yeah. Okay me from from everything
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they can offer. Yeah, they're above us.
59:16
All right, to Texas. Yep, in the reason I will put
59:21
Texas of Michigan above Texas and even people can say, well
59:25
Texas has more money better facilities.
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Michigan has actually even though they're two and three
59:31
this year, the years before the group, exactly.
59:53
They're usually not stared at anything worse than a nine win
59:55
season those times. Where as you know, we're
1:00:00
becoming more accustomed to, you know, a twin season seven, when
1:00:05
Seasons it's kind of getting a little Well, it was a little
1:00:08
frustrating there. And then you look at Texas where
1:00:11
they really have din flowed between it really oscillating
1:00:16
between a decent season to a very subpar season for them.
1:00:21
They're they're actually in terms of average wins they're
1:00:24
kind of right there with us. It's true over the over the last
1:00:30
five and even counting the you know the Herman years here.
1:00:37
All right. Do you think the third in this
1:00:40
situation if Penn State right wing Taro and five?
1:00:46
Yeah, I mean I don't know if they're going kind of chalk this
1:00:49
up to a it was going to be somewhat of a rebuild this year.
1:00:53
On top of the covid stuff. I don't know if they're just
1:00:55
going to punt it one year or if they're going to make a move
1:00:58
based on this somewhat downward trajectory of the program.
1:01:04
Especially like again their problem and you know, again
1:01:06
Michigan's problem in Texas is problem and it's a problem that
1:01:10
we're, you know, we don't necessarily have is that you
1:01:12
know they are getting those top 15 top 10 recruiting classes at
1:01:17
those institutions and still seeing average to sometimes
1:01:23
slightly above average. Sometimes below average outputs
1:01:27
on the field you know for all the ill that we're seeing this
1:01:32
is really the first Bad way under expectation season, I
1:01:39
think 2018. We knew it was going to be some
1:01:43
pains. We just didn't know how bad they
1:01:45
were going to be this year. I mean, the based on the
1:01:48
original schedule, we were pretty much 10 wins or bust.
1:01:52
Yep. So what we're seeing right now
1:01:55
is completely unacceptable. So, that's where we are.
1:01:59
And I think that's where some of those other programs are at this
1:02:03
point as well. All right.
1:02:04
There are two more that I think are above us, okay?
1:02:10
And they are very likely to fire their curfew.
1:02:13
You got, you put 45 on the number Nebraska Tennessee.
1:02:18
Who's for who I think you still got to put Tennessee for before.
1:02:25
Nebraska 5, we're gonna put SC. South Carolina.
1:02:30
Yeah. I think they're on the same
1:02:33
plane with us. Yeah, I agree.
1:02:35
I think them, they're on the same plane as us and people can
1:02:39
say what they have more money. They have.
1:02:41
The facilities are very similar but I think we have it.
1:02:56
More than anything because again you have to look South.
1:03:01
Yeah. Because at this at this point,
1:03:02
you know, we look at Any coaches looking at paths to a
1:03:07
championship game will see, Virginia Tech as a much easier
1:03:11
path to a championship game as the conference is currently
1:03:15
constructed, then inside, it's not even a question on that.
1:03:20
It's not even a question on that and you've got, like, you know,
1:03:22
your West Coast. You probably got like, Stanford,
1:03:26
Stanford is a beast of its own. That's not even anywhere.
1:03:29
Near us are going to probably, when their coach go.
1:03:35
SEC Vanderbilt's probably going to be letting Derek Mason go.
1:03:40
Let's talk about another thing that was like, in terms of the
1:03:42
Pac-12, at least, I mean, a lot of the guys that are going to be
1:03:45
considerations out there or probably not going to be coaches
1:03:48
that are on our radar just because of, you know, recruiting
1:03:52
footprint, that they're accustomed to and systems that
1:03:55
they run and things like that. So I just think the guys that
1:03:59
are going to be the big time cannons for them or going to
1:04:02
probably be Maybe those big 12 guys.
1:04:05
Maybe some of the G5 schools further out there and look, I'm
1:04:10
Les. Yeah, exactly.
1:04:12
Yeah. You got from o-ue State like
1:04:18
UCLA or Arizona or Stanford. Don't call him.
1:04:22
They're losing their damn mind. You're looking at broken down
1:04:25
West guys and stuff like that. So much.
1:04:29
Are you going to look at G5? You're going to look at P5.
1:04:31
Excuse me, you're still gonna look at P 5.
1:04:33
Five and say, where do you rank? And again, it's a little
1:04:38
different. But if you told me a guy from
1:04:40
the Big 12, got offered a Ting at all.
1:04:43
Pepper genatech. I would say he'd look and say
1:04:47
I'm coming Virginia Tech because academic I don't have to worry,
1:04:51
it's better facilities, it's more coaching, pool it, pretty
1:04:56
good, Regional footprint, guess standard State of California,
1:05:00
but the state of California is essentially Maryland, Virginia.
1:05:03
My God, South Carolina Georgia. And the top part of Florida,
1:05:07
Anjali you still getting a very good recruiting base here.
1:05:11
So yeah, so you know those essentially software, they're
1:05:17
five schools above us, if you ask me now, In the god, I think,
1:05:26
I think Urban Meyer's going to go to one of those schools.
1:05:29
I'm not going to say which one you want a pool.
1:05:33
I think you're defensive coordinator, so, two of the
1:05:37
three guys, we talked about her out and I get an eerie feeling
1:05:46
that the guy Liberty is going to go to either South Carolina or
1:05:50
Tennessee. I think freeze of fit in well at
1:05:54
Tennessee. Oh God, he would especially
1:05:57
being from Tennessee. Oh yeah.
1:06:00
And I know you can say, you know, you know, well, you know,
1:06:07
didn't they have issues with farmer and shit and it's like,
1:06:09
well, who gives a fuck about that minute?
1:06:12
Thank you. Want to get back to the top
1:06:13
level of coaching and Liberty ankle getting married.
1:06:16
So yeah. All right.
1:06:19
South Carolina loses again even after they fire.
1:06:22
I must champ, we speak up by 17. What's our, what kind of like?
1:06:28
What's the what's our game-breaker going here?
1:06:31
With the USC Utah because we're both, we have the, we have
1:06:36
matching records today, y'all and the wandering, or I can only
1:06:40
catch you if you have C wins, right?
1:06:42
And takes the three, that's correct.
1:06:44
Yeah. So we're either going for me
1:06:49
pulling up a pretty good pretty good week or pretty much a push
1:06:53
for what you like. Do what we say we're doing with
1:06:57
FSU Clemson. We both won.
1:07:02
For, I'm going to sit here and there's no game, 00.
1:07:05
Give them 35 and a half. Maybe like, FSU.
1:07:07
Fucking quit. Yeah, is there other than our
1:07:19
minds tonight? It's another example of losing
1:07:24
to a team that we're better than on paper.
1:07:28
And that's the preparation man and you know, that's why they
1:07:32
don't play football on paper. Unless you're playing paper
1:07:36
football in which case you're kind of playing with paper, but
1:07:41
that's either your nose, hey, you're whatever paper but if you
1:07:45
get a better paper quality you know, the person for thing it
1:07:48
still is more responsible than the actual paper.
1:07:52
There you go. My who's all thematic can be
1:07:54
given shit paper and beat the better paper quality guy.
1:07:58
Hey we're somehow tying in real-world physics and paper
1:08:02
physics. Here we go.
1:08:05
This is what you watching. Football, hold that seven-point.
1:08:15
Leave USA hold it. It's gonna pick here.
1:08:19
You. All right.
1:08:22
Well Brian, if that's all we got because it was a lot that's
1:08:26
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1:08:30
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