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Jags Drive Time: Monday, December 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time. Get Ashlyn Sullivs, John Oceans,
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  Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, Jacks Drive Time and starts right now. So
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  Speaker 1: we were all on all of our assignments and I
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  Speaker 1: just got away from listening to end and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we've played um the full game at all. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: you could tell that. But we gotta help our defense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they've depresently game gave us plenty of chances
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  Speaker 1: and didn't readn't do anything with it. So safe to
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  Speaker 1: say it was not a complete game for Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 1: the offense and the Jaguars as a whole, as they
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  Speaker 1: lost the Tennessee Titans zero yesterday. Ran thirty plays on offense,
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  Speaker 1: six of them were runs. Had your rookie quarterback past
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  Speaker 1: of the time. But that is just one of the
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  Speaker 1: issues of the Jaguars right now. There's so much to
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  Speaker 1: pack on a Monday morning here on Jaguars Drive Time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. There are four games left
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  Speaker 1: to go. That's a cheerful coffee cup that you have
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  Speaker 1: right there. Christmas Time isn't making you feel better? Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: this morning I'm normally an optimistic person, and this morning
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  Speaker 1: I was like, so I went to the Starbucks drive
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  Speaker 1: through and I got myself a nice Christmas cup. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel better hoping optimism are in short supply, at
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  Speaker 1: least as it relates to football right now? Is that
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  Speaker 1: set right? Dirty plays? Yes, you know some names. You
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  Speaker 1: miss things when you're trying to analyze it and you
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  Speaker 1: get back late. You're right, and everything that's staggering in
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  Speaker 1: six runs And yeah, quarterback to throw fore in receptions
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  Speaker 1: not for the first has got success? What have we
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  Speaker 1: said all season long about this? His best friend is
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  Speaker 1: a strong running game. In fact, the coach said that
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  Speaker 1: he talked um to the Joe Burrow, his former Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State quarterback, and asked him what the most important thing
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  Speaker 1: he could give him in his rookie season. He said,
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  Speaker 1: a run again, And there was no running game fewest
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  Speaker 1: rushing yards in a game in franchise history. It adds, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm remiss in not knowing that because it felt that way.
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  Speaker 1: When you have thirty plays and you're down double digits,
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  Speaker 1: the whole play you're gonna run eight times a thirty
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  Speaker 1: places is ridiculous. It is. Indeed it is. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into big things, which is big thing? One is a
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  Speaker 1: very bad weekend, shout out for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: more than a decade, the fewest rushing yards in a
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  Speaker 1: game in franchise history, a ninth consecutive loss in the
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  Speaker 1: a f C South, and all kinds of headlines about
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  Speaker 1: things going poorly from the coaching staff. Coach Meyer address
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  Speaker 1: the reports. Yeah, there was calling someone a loser. That's inaccurate.
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  Speaker 1: I have high expectations for our coaches, a very demanding
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  Speaker 1: of our coaches um and expect guys to be held
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  Speaker 1: accountable for their positions and at times when they're not,
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  Speaker 1: those are where you address it. But I assure you
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  Speaker 1: there is not whatever report Amy told me something about that,
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  Speaker 1: that's nonsense. Big thing too, is don't discount the defense.
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  Speaker 1: They played solid football. The Titans didn't overly run well,
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  Speaker 1: which is something we were worried about going into that
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  Speaker 1: game all week. Allowed only three points in twenty two
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  Speaker 1: yards after four second half turnovers. If they had any help,
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  Speaker 1: we would say they might be a strong suit of
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  Speaker 1: this team. But Shaquille Griffin isn't using that as an excuse.
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  Speaker 1: My challenge is continue to get the guys to continue
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  Speaker 1: to believe and not give up. That's the only part
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  Speaker 1: I can do. When you're talking about the office out
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  Speaker 1: of the ball and I'm trying to figure out whatever
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  Speaker 1: it isn't need to figure out. It's not my job
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  Speaker 1: to try to figure that part because I got to
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  Speaker 1: do my best at my position and he and God's
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  Speaker 1: nobody can count on me to make sure I can
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  Speaker 1: do right. You know, it's tough to try to, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: coach the cornerbacks, coach of safety, the linebackers, the D line,
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  Speaker 1: and didn't go on office out the ball and try
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  Speaker 1: to coach those guys. They got to figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: But like I said, we're grown man. That's our job.
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  Speaker 1: We have to we have to be able to dept.
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  Speaker 1: We have to adjust. So as grown men, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to fix it. And you know, and we're gonna tell
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  Speaker 1: you to the offense is We're gonna figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, big thing three is tune out the noise,
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  Speaker 1: which is much easier said and done. But there are
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  Speaker 1: four games left of this season, so Trevor Laurence meat
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  Speaker 1: or mute your Twitter, let's get through this. Control what
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  Speaker 1: I can control. All I can control is you know
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  Speaker 1: who I am, how I treat people, the way I
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  Speaker 1: respond and just being as prepared as I can and
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  Speaker 1: go in and trying to play the best I can
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  Speaker 1: and they have it. That's big things. That's the only
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  Speaker 1: thing Trevor Lawrence can say right now. Yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know at this point, Brian, I I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be snied. I don't wanna be cute. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have much to add, and I don't talk about this
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  Speaker 1: team for three h three more weeks or four more weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But you know it's uh, you know, it's my hot take.
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  Speaker 1: If yesterday it wasn't rock bottom, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: see it. And I'm on that hot take too, So
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  Speaker 1: let's not go there. But let's say that because it
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  Speaker 1: better be rock bottom. Um let's talk about the defense, right, um?
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  Speaker 1: And I would say, um, first of all, it would
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  Speaker 1: could we please when they when they win the Tops,
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  Speaker 1: could you just take the ball once? Right? I know
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  Speaker 1: you deal with us all the time, but give the
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  Speaker 1: offense a chance to give him a lead, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: a field goal or not. Do something different. I know
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  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. I'm trying to look right, but when was
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  Speaker 1: the last time I had to lead the Buffalo game? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I sort of touchdown to take the lead
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  Speaker 1: as Miami. You know, the defense it isn't great, but
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  Speaker 1: they play hard and after getting punched in the mouth,
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  Speaker 1: which we've seen in the first half for the last month,
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  Speaker 1: they rebound right and they kept them in the ball game.
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  Speaker 1: And yet the offense could do nothing. What if you
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  Speaker 1: get a touchdown in the first half, I ain't the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Well, on the topic, I get nobody wants to
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  Speaker 1: hear anything anything commended by the Jaguars, right I mean
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  Speaker 1: commending the Jaguars right now, But there's been multiple times
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  Speaker 1: this season where they did exactly what they did yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty points is fine in this league. To give up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you'd rather give up fourteen you got a zero.
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  Speaker 1: But to actually play hard and continue to play effectively
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  Speaker 1: when you're down by as many points as this team
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  Speaker 1: has been down in the last five weeks, and they've
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  Speaker 1: done that I think, uh three or four different times. Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: you know I said they and name them uh. Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: efense isn't perfect, but I don't think it's the most
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  Speaker 1: talented defense I've ever seen, considering what they're putting on
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  Speaker 1: the field, what they're dealing with as a group. This
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  Speaker 1: group is playing as well as it can possibly play,
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  Speaker 1: and it's playing five. It lacks and I wrote this
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  Speaker 1: in quick thought, it lacks the scooping score where it
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  Speaker 1: lacks to pick six. It lacks that dynamic that we
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  Speaker 1: were accustomed to around here. Inen of a game changing defense.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have that. They just don't scooping scores and
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  Speaker 1: pick six is though, as you know, they're hard to
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  Speaker 1: get trailing those usual when the opponent is in situations
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  Speaker 1: where they must throw, considering they're always behind. You know,
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  Speaker 1: do you see a game changing defender right now? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when was the last time we walked the more around
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  Speaker 1: him Josh exactly, But we haven't. We haven't talked about
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  Speaker 1: him since the Indianapolis game, right because teams have taken
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  Speaker 1: him away and there's no alternative. I keep waiting for
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  Speaker 1: Miles Jack to be that guy because we've seen him
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  Speaker 1: do that before. And what we're saying is with more
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  Speaker 1: around him, with more game changing kind of players, they
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  Speaker 1: need another pass rusher, they need a big play safety,
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  Speaker 1: They need somebody who can create momentum until this offense
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  Speaker 1: is able to create it on its own. Right, if
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  Speaker 1: they were playing with attend nothing lead. We'd see Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen and Miles Jack doing those things. I totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: But this defense, they get punched, they get back up.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best thing you can say. But they get punched.
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  Speaker 1: They've given up a lead, they've given up touchdowns on
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  Speaker 1: opening drive. Sure how many games in a row. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they get punched. They don't have that lockdown. We stop
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  Speaker 1: you early in the ball game. They get hit, they
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  Speaker 1: get back up there. Tough guy speak, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: the credit. Is that usually once that happens, once you
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  Speaker 1: see teams sort of just quit. They keep coming back,
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  Speaker 1: not quit. But it's it is something to be such
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  Speaker 1: kill Griffin a couple of weeks I remember him saying,
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem is we we freak out almost
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  Speaker 1: on the first driver, all over the place. And let
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  Speaker 1: me say, okay, settle down. They scored a touchdown. Now
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  Speaker 1: let's play sound football. You gotta get it together on
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  Speaker 1: that first drive. Well, that's it, but they can't. Well
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  Speaker 1: you also got to stop committing the penalties to supports
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  Speaker 1: my conduct penalty set up short fields or shorter fields.
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  Speaker 1: And then this offense, I don't where do you want
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  Speaker 1: to start? As of yesterday, there's there's nowhere to start.
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  Speaker 1: The offensive line was abysmal yesterday, and of course we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about how when you're in the box, when you're
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  Speaker 1: playing in the red zone the entire length of the field,
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  Speaker 1: it's tough for the offensive line to play well. You
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  Speaker 1: can't get the running game going because the safeties are
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  Speaker 1: right on top of you and they're sending seven without
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  Speaker 1: worry of of being beaten because they aren't beaten. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I've talked about the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: so much, but oh, yesterday was was by far the
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  Speaker 1: worst game I've seen him because I didn't feel like yesterday. Again,
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  Speaker 1: everything is cumulative, so teams game plan, they know how
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  Speaker 1: to play this team. But to me, the sacks they
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  Speaker 1: were giving up didn't look like, oh, they're bringing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pressure. There was one early where we're held
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  Speaker 1: land look like Jawan Taylor just let Herol Landry go.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that wasn't what happened, but it sure looked
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  Speaker 1: like it. Um it was a tough game for that unit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they have played nearly that poorly most
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  Speaker 1: of the time this year. I don't think it's gotta
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  Speaker 1: cut all five, but boy, that was bad. Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be different next year. I mean, well, Andrew Norwell's gone, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's got He's a free agent next year.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're gonna do with Cam Robinson yet,
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  Speaker 1: although you probably like to find a way to keep him.
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Lender can't stay on the field and he's do
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  Speaker 1: ten million dollars next year, so he's likely gone. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know the is gonna be a reshuffling. I've said
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  Speaker 1: Joe Taylor looks like a guard today. You know it's
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  Speaker 1: time to start making that move. Maybe Walker Little is
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  Speaker 1: a right tackle who knows what they do. But that
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  Speaker 1: offensive line is going to be reconstituted next year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: so you think they're three before they're good offensively Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that far away. If you
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  Speaker 1: keep wide receiver offensive line, well, based on what you've
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  Speaker 1: seen from the offensive long and knowing the contract situation,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be different this year. They started the
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  Speaker 1: season with Norwell lindering camp, and it's entirely likely that
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  Speaker 1: all of them are gone. Bart looks like a matter
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  Speaker 1: of talking about six starters on offense. Ye, are my
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  Speaker 1: numbers are wrong? No? Yeah? It's a big client. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I read in a Titans article that all of
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  Speaker 1: those sacks came from pressures, no blitz, And you're right, John,
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  Speaker 1: you were watching on the field and it was almost
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  Speaker 1: like they just let them walk by. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that's not what it happens, but that's certainly what its for.
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  Speaker 1: I guess there is. I'm unemphasizing it so much. For
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years, I've written people kill me on it.
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  Speaker 1: They're better than observers thing, and they usually are. Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: it didn't feel like they will totally agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: and that is big things. When we come back on
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time, some highlights from yesterday's lost to the
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  Speaker 1: drive time. It is Monday. It is time for some highlights. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we have to do them from yesterday's lost to the
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  Speaker 1: Titans twenty zero, and we'll start here. It's been the
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  Speaker 1: theme all season is the Jaguars digging themselves out of
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  Speaker 1: a whole early backs against the wall, operating from the
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  Speaker 1: shotgun and a tall first get to it's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of the shop for the play games to flag
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  Speaker 1: the tay and then you have it that flags everything everything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm amused the Taylor la wan on he is getting
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  Speaker 1: in the face of somebody who got a fifteen yard
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  Speaker 1: penalty run sportsmanlike conduct because he commits it on nearly
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  Speaker 1: everywide right. But John's point, the penalty was stupid. All
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  Speaker 1: you do is create a situation in which now you're
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  Speaker 1: burying yourself, and this defense has done that too often
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  Speaker 1: with those kinds of penalties. Tannehill was just above average yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: His passion rating. Yeah, no, I know, And they knew
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  Speaker 1: exactly how they had to ye. They knew they could
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  Speaker 1: take the lead. They knew the Jaguars wouldn't threaten him.
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  Speaker 1: They knew they could get time of possession. They knew
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  Speaker 1: that unless they screwed up that they did not believe
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars could do offensively nearly enough to win. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and they're right, yep. So let's go to the third quarter. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars stuck around in this game. It's only ten
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  Speaker 1: nothing at halftime, and we're talking in the tunnel, all right,
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  Speaker 1: If the Jaguars offense can get a touchdown, this is
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  Speaker 1: a ballgame. But this has once again been the theme
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  Speaker 1: the whole season. The Titans pull away in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: but reach your utication long snop count from Tannehill rolling
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  Speaker 1: left it the so im just gonna touch them. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost it's just impending doom almost if you feel it
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  Speaker 1: on the field, you feel it coming. It's all right there,
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  Speaker 1: hanging in there. They're hanging in there. Got a score
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  Speaker 1: touchdown soon because if not, this happens in the game
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  Speaker 1: gets away from him. Yeah, and it was set up.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm right on this, and if I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: I apologized. But um, Jeff swain on on the play
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  Speaker 1: on the left side of the field, and I think
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  Speaker 1: my guy Dooey came up and went low on a
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  Speaker 1: blocker when the play was passed him, and the over
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  Speaker 1: aggression on that part bites him a lot. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they score anyway yesterday. It just seems
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  Speaker 1: very indicative of the whole story. Well, look, the other
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  Speaker 1: point is that you said, if they could just score
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown at any point yesterday, did you feel like
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  Speaker 1: they were going to score a touchdown? No, there was
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  Speaker 1: never any offensive momentum where you felt like this was
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  Speaker 1: the drive. No. I didn't either. Speaking of that leads
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  Speaker 1: us right into this highlight that we haven't even mentioned yet,
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  Speaker 1: a record day for Trevor Lawrence in a negative way,
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  Speaker 1: throwing foreign reception. So let's take a look some bad decisions,
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  Speaker 1: some pressing. I can't blame them for wanting to take
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  Speaker 1: some chances. I preferred to the NFL in interception sees
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  Speaker 1: their second leading tackler. I'm good to see Ben Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: is past the cold and it is picks. It's thirty
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  Speaker 1: two seconds left in the quarter. Accepted Jayon Brown with
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  Speaker 1: a one HIRTI pick those issues continued thirty Lawrence child
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  Speaker 1: by all some time takes a shot, He's got Mickens again.
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  Speaker 1: Christian talks in the Frustrating Year Experence for Robinson on
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  Speaker 1: sucking a sixteen. He's picked off a dude. It's busters
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  Speaker 1: stream gets me another party. That was a long highlight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's an old playlist. Um, you know. Look, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: he didn't play well yesterday. Overall, nobody did offensively. But
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  Speaker 1: let's keep the interceptions in perspective to play. I gets
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  Speaker 1: home er here a little bit. I thought when I
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  Speaker 1: first saw it that the first past was a little
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  Speaker 1: high and hard. Levis has got to catch that. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: that's catchable. Third and eight long down the field. That's
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  Speaker 1: a punt at that point, and they know that's a
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  Speaker 1: punt at that point. So I almost give a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in that case, in his position a little more credit
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  Speaker 1: for doing it, because the easy thing there is to
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  Speaker 1: throw it out of bounds. Now, I'm not gonna take
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  Speaker 1: the pick. I don't want hear people talking about my
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: hicks all week. He's not that guy. He's gonna play
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the game within itself. I thought the third I mean,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the second one was the one that mattered. I don't
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: know where he was throwing the ball. I think he
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't know where he was throwing the ball the fourth
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even watching you, Yeah, I recall, and I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: went specifically to this a game in um Eli Manning's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: rookie year in Baltimore where he played the whole game
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and had a zero point zero passer rating. Right, But
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: these moments happened to rookies, especially a rookie like this
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: who has a very limited playbook that he can call on.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Um He's not playing well right now, but I'm not
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: worried about who he's going to become as a quarterback.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see more progress from him. Everyone would,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: but I see enough things that I'm willing to be
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: patient until he's got weapons around him. Yeah, if you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: want something to hold on too with him, and I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: know fans, you know, oh best, you know, it's a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: hold on to the three games right before the bye,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: when the running game was working relatively effectively. They felt
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: like they had something going and he had passer ratings
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: over ninety. Since j Rob got hurt, the offense has
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: gone off the rails. I'm not saying that doesn't have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: anything to do with Trevor, but within a functioning offense
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: as a rookie, he was getting better and then it stopped.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And that's a concern because right now he looks like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: an unconfident quarterback who is trying to do too much.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: That's a natural tendency. But I'm not worried about him
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: long term, not right at all. To the point where
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I had a fan on the flight last night asked me,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence, he might not be the franchise quarterback.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And I put my bow's headphones on. I said, I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: not entertaining this right now. Good for you. Yeah, sometimes
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you just gotta shut out the noise, just go into it,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: all right. Finally, want to grow on. We're gonna talk
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: about in the D block. But spoiler, it's the defensive
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: line for me. Let's see how they play Destay against
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the Titans. My goodness, st the third time the King
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: sitting here. That is just hot ward they call again,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Tanny Hill sicked again, robertson Harris. So I want to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: grow on a positive. They're getting pressure, they're making big plays.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It's just it's not enough. And to Ryan's point earlier
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: about the lack of scooping scores, lack of pick sixes,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: had the Jaguars had a seven point lead or had
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: they been scary at all. Tanny Hill probably throws a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: couple of those passes under pressure and you get a pick.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: That's how they happen in my experience, because you're you're
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: up ten nothing or seventeen nothing on a team that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: can't threaten you. I'm sure of Rabel every time Daniell
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: goes on the field is saying, if it's tight, just
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: hold it. So that contributes to the lack of scoopers
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: be superscore has happen three or four times a year. Well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that is the sort of situation it happens in. Teams
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: aren't scared, so they don't do dumb things against the Jaguars.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting six or seven
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: superscore like we saw in Seen. What I'm talking about
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: is that one moment where you get it once and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the defense can tee off
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and the offense you're not playing from behind, but they
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: don't get it once. There's a lack of Yeah I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: mean against Atlanta, or I mean they didn't get getting
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it's Houston. You've gotta get gotta get once. Make a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: game changing play. That allows the offense to not play
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: on their knees, right, Just something to believe in. Some
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: seems like they're struggling to stay on their feet. Yeah,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you see it on the sidelines. It's quiet and you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: see those big potential plays and it completely changes the vibe.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Even if it's for ten minutes. If it leads to something, Yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: one play makes all the difference. But they haven't had those. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: drive time. It is Monday at his time for some
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  Speaker 1: hot takes, and they're especially hot this morning. Brian Sexton Up, Yeah, no,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: mine is cold water. UM, this is the low point
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise. UM. I went back
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and tried to think about moments where things were bad. UM.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: The only one that even came close. And there's been something,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you know, when Richard Collyer was shot. I mean, there
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: have been some moments where it felt like everything was
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: falling apart. UM. The only one that came close was
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: two thousand one. UM Spurrier was leaving Florida and there
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was a big human cried who replaced Tom Coughlin with him. UM.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli was left unprotected and put onto the expansion
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: draft list. Kevin Hardy and Keenan McCardell. I mean, the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: stalwarts of those early teams were let go in free agency,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and you just knew the thing was going to spiral down,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and of course it did. I'm not sure whether that's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: gonna happen right now, but I mean, this year was
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: supposed to bad. Hope. This year was supposed to be
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: about credibility that a college Hall of Fame coach brought
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: in a college star quarterback brought and at this point
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of the season when you have to do another round
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of look at the Jaguars, right, we got that the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: first weekend in October, and now here it is again
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: at a moment where the team should be getting better.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying winning, I didn't expect him to win,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: but getting better so that we're saying, hey, we're not
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: struggling in the A block. They have a conversation about
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: things when there's nothing to say. Um, there have been
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: bad times for this franchise. They're bad times for every franchise.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But right now, with a campaign of here we go,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this thing is headed in the right direction right now.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Go out in the street and how many people are
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: gonna say, we they're absolutely headed in the right direction? None? None,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: none at this point. So this is the lowest point
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in franchise history. And I can only hope that this
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: is rock bottom, that there's not more that we have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to endure. And we the based the city of Jacksonville.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't supposed to be like this. And and where
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire. There's some dysfunction over there. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: don't know that. I can't speak to what's true and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: what's not. But that story doesn't come out if there's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: not something going on that's creating a lot of friction, right,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And you had the issue with the running back last week,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and it's just last This has been the worst week.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And I've been here since the last week of July,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in working for this team since October one. I've seen
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: it all. And this feels worse to me because my
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: expectation wasn't a playoff team, wasn't razzle dazzle. It was Okay,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna get on stable ground, and now everyone's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: going to see that this franchise is going in the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: right direction. And as this morning, I can't give people
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the hope that it is going in the right direction.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I have to throw out my hands and go, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: don't know. And you know what's a really low point?
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: If they come out and play against the Houston Texans
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and New York Jets, too bad for upball teams that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, then I think it gets to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: an even lower point. Actually, it was supposed to be
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: better than this, Yes it was. It's supposed to be fun,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: remember when we said that, John, Yeah, And it's not.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And I guess my heart takes essentially the same. This
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is the low point. I don't want to see it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go over every point that Brian made. Uh,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: this is the bottom offensively, at least a better V.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: But it's the bottom in terms of performance or at
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: least a better b Uh. I don't know how you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: get worse than when you saw the other day. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: think everything's indicative of that. Uh. Eight rushing yards, four turnovers.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It was just a chaotic at times, So I don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think it gets better from that. I would like to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: feel things to your point, Brian, because this is really
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: what I was talking about, more than the offense. I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: keep going back to the phrase, these are the these
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: are the times to try and souls well. But I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen in terms of how
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: they're going to turn this around. But you know, just
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: because it's bad now doesn't mean it has to stay back.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: So now is the time. Look, it's got to happen
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: now without a doubt, because you can't go into another
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: off season saying just wait right, I mean, who's going
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to believe in the off season in what you're saying
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: If you can't clear the air and make this. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know what the right thing to do is.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It's been bad, looks it needs to look better. For
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the last month, I was at a Christmas party and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, everyone wants to come and talk about that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So here's what's happened. But even if it's just perception,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: even if it's overblown, if he's right and telling us
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the truth that he didn't call people losers, right, Um,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: if that's true, the perception is he did right. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: if if this was just the only issue, John, if
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: we didn't have the first weekend in October, right this one,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you could probably go well, and they're frustrated. Right, this
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is a guy who's used to winning and record, But
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: what you've now done is create doubt. We've asked people
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to have faith and believe, and faith is belief in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: something that isn't evident, Right, isn't tangibly put your hand on.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: At some point, it has to it has to stop. Yes,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: it has to stop. Yes. And that leads me into
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: something a little more specific, which is the offensive line
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is my hotache. And I know, looking back on this now,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I wrote this last night on the plane after the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: little Bow's headphone incident. So I agree it was a
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: little dramatic and tot and hot, but this offensive line
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: as a whole. I said, Jawan Taylor will not start
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: another game this season because you have to do something.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You have to put Walker Little in. And I went
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: back and forth about Andrew Norwell, who had four holding penalties,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and should you let him back in the game. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: we talked about Jawan Taylor and what looked like just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a lack of effort and he's a good guy, and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I know it's probably not what it is, but my gosh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: you gotta do something. And I get that there was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: consistency on the offensive line and that's what she wanted.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But you want to see something from Walker Little. You
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: want to see something that you can go into it
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the offseason and say, all right, you know, we saw
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: how he could play. Now is the time put him in.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You've got nothing to lose. I agree with that, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I believe you're going to see a reshuffling. I love
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: jo Want Taylor the person, and I liked Jo Want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Taylor the football player. And you pull for him and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you hope, but he struggles with the speed rushers and
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: all he's going to see is the speed rushers. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: looks to me like a guy who if you ask
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: him to line up and drive them off. He looks
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: like a good guard candidate, and I think he'll be
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a good one. That's what I would do. I'm not
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: an offensive line coach. I'm not an offensive coordinator, but
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you don't need to be to see that he struggles
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: with his footwork. I don't think you see norwell benched.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: That felt to me like a little bit of an
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: aberration yesterday. I know Andrew gets criticized all the time.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: He's been better then most people believe, and he's been
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: good most of the time here. He really ruggled yesterday.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I would look more toward the right tackle. Yes, absolutely,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: we expect some change of something is coming on the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: offensive line this week, and that is hot takes when
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  Speaker 1: stays game to the Titans, and I think we all
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: have the same guy. But that's how well he played.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Robertson Harrison Yeah, Um, he was the best player on
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the field of the Jaguars interday. He was dominant inside,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: he was terrific with the pass rush. Um. He came
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: here as a free agent. He was injured with an
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: ankle for you know, a key stretch of the season,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and I think people said, well, you know, he's just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a guy. He's not. He's a really good football player
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys that you you can
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: absolutely put you know, put it in ink. He is
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a star where he is a guy you can build
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: around on the front. I think he's terrific. Yeah, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I was gonna go with you Roy two. But the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: point we were kind of talking during the break, should
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we even do this? It's it's been you know, such
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a tough stretch. Do they play that well? Well? The
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: answer is on defense, they did play that well. I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: mean we're talking about the offense and other things, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to focus on the defense is really not disingenuous. Damian
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Wilson played well. I thought for the most part um
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Robertson Harrison played yeah again, and I mean I hate
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to keep talking about the He's a weapon. He's played
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: really well. So there you know, all is not lost
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in terms of night everybody stunk up to joint. Uh
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: So I'll go with Damian Wilson because I think he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: been just terrific. I'm saying now you can talk about
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Roy Robinson Harris, yes, or I said I was gonna
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: go with the Kuan Treble as well, which I know
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: is hard with a wide receiver and offensive weapon, but
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you see that huge first down, that one big play.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: He's got the potential to do it. He has shown
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: if if you have six wide receivers next year and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he's one of them, it's fine. Yes, I totally agree.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I was watching the end of the the Buffalo Tampa game.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: This great game. That's what we want to see, right, Well,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: a game that comes to the end. Your two games
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: go to overtime yesterday, right, you want to see these
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: games in the fourth quarter where your fans get a
• 34:49
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• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a tradition and a culture right here in this building
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: where everybody can't wait to get to the fourth quarter.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And I my greatest lament is when was the last
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: time we saw of the fourth quarters as a factor?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Miami? But but but rarely. Um, the fourth quarter
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: has got to be the key. You had the running
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: back Gabrielle, uh gabriel Um for the Bills that got
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that key fourth down or we put his shoulder down.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: It was all effort. Please God, let's have moments like
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that where it's it's it's just one play and yet
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: everybody gets fired up because that guy fought for the yard. Sorry,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I'm really frustrated. Yeah, I'm I'm tired of this. Yeah,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: it stinks, Remember John, it used to be fun. We
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: keep saying that this and to fans it right in. Yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that's real, it is real. You're not wrong. But we
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: have a job to do and we will continue to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: do it. And there is a quarterback, and the quarterback
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: is do not give up on that, do not fall
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: prey did those who will tell you he's not the guy, Yes,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: he's the man. I will put my bo's headphones on
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you and ignore you. Thank you for tuning in a
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Jaguars drive time. We'll be back right here Wednesday morning.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: We'll see you then