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Next Man Up Mentality in Cleveland | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the Saint John's River
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  Speaker 1: do tonight's show from Mister Chubbies, but they needed more
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  Speaker 2: J P.
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  Speaker 3: Checkick and welcome in.
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  Speaker 4: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: It is Week fourteen.
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  Speaker 5: The Jaguars and the Browns coming up this Sunday in
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  Speaker 5: Cleveland and plenty to get to and the two hours ahead.
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  Speaker 3: That game preview coming up.
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  Speaker 5: Quarterback Watch continues Trevor Lawrence on the practice field to
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  Speaker 5: day for a short time. We'll get some ideas of
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  Speaker 5: what could happen or what couldn't happen for the quarterback
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  Speaker 5: position this week. The Jags defense, certainly either way, has
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  Speaker 5: to respond to what they did last week on Monday,
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  Speaker 5: and they've got to do it against the Browns team
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  Speaker 5: that has quarterback questions of their own. The Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 5: Show at five o'clock, Well here from the Jaguars head
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  Speaker 5: coach in studio, and maybe you'll have some answers, but
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  Speaker 5: maybe he won't.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 5: Five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick with
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  Speaker 5: Jeff Lockerman, Jaguars Analysts, Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not counting on Doug giving us all the answer.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny how that works.
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  Speaker 4: Coaches are typically a little bit coy, okay, when they've
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  Speaker 4: got an injury to the starting quarterback, and he's a
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  Speaker 4: franchise quarterback. So we'll see what he says. But my
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  Speaker 4: hopes aren't real high of getting the you know, direct answer.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, though, yesterday Trevor Lawrence walked into a
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  Speaker 5: press conference.
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  Speaker 4: With out a boot on his bush is amazing and talked.
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  Speaker 5: With the media as starting quarterbacks that we normally do
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  Speaker 5: correct and then didn't practice yesterday today. Apparently was out
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  Speaker 5: there during media time. Well apparently I saw it. He
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  Speaker 5: was out there practice with the gear of the day
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  Speaker 5: and he was making some froe. Now he wasn't you know,
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  Speaker 5: out there doing full blown sprints or any.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of agility stuff. And the part that we see
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  Speaker 4: in practice, so bootlegs and throwing down the field. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he looked to be functional. So it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be interesting to see how this plays out, because you know,
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  Speaker 4: here's the deal. Walking my neighborhood and come across one
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  Speaker 4: of my neighbors and she's a big Jaguars fan. Huh
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  Speaker 4: and she's like, sALS, Trevor, that's the first. Everybody's out,
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  Speaker 4: of course, you know, and uh And I said I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I said, I haven't Uh, I haven't seen
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  Speaker 4: it yet. And she goes, well, you know, Patrick ma
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  Speaker 4: Holmes played on a high ankle sprain last year. Somebody
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  Speaker 4: knows the the habits of quarterbacks with high ankle spray.
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  Speaker 4: The bar has been set by the homes. So any
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  Speaker 4: quarterback that doesn't play with a high ankle they are
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  Speaker 4: just whimps. I don't get it. It was that was different.
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  Speaker 4: It was the championship playoff game. Yeah, it's a championship game.
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  Speaker 4: It's a championship game. That's different. You wrap it up,
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  Speaker 4: you shoot it up, you tape it up, because you know, look,
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  Speaker 4: you got the whole off season the heel. But here,
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  Speaker 4: at this stage of the game, you've got to be
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  Speaker 4: mindful of a couple of things. Mindful of the future
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  Speaker 4: health of your quarterback. Mindful of making the right decision
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  Speaker 4: for your football team. Also, you know, so uh, you
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  Speaker 4: got to you gotta make sure that you're making the
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  Speaker 4: right decision for the player number one to the organization.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there are still games left in the regular season,
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  Speaker 4: and there's still up in the air about the division.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is not like a runaway right now.
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  Speaker 4: The Jags do still have the upper hand of the
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  Speaker 4: AFC South. They have the tiebreakers over the teams that
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  Speaker 4: are directly behind them by a game, so really make
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  Speaker 4: it two games over the Colts. The Texans, and the
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  Speaker 4: Jags of course split that series. So I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the Jags need to win some of these games ahead
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  Speaker 4: as well, not just this week. All right, it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of a nice weekend, wasn't it, because we got
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  Speaker 4: to enjoy football in its entirety. What better week of
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  Speaker 4: the season to have a Monday night football game. First
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  Speaker 4: of all, it's always amazing to have a Monday night
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  Speaker 4: football game. But on top of that, you had the
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  Speaker 4: college championship weekend that coincided with that, and then also
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  Speaker 4: you had two conference games that we were able to
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  Speaker 4: see the I watched the entirety of the Houston Texans game,
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  Speaker 4: watch the ending of the Indianapolis game game, and then
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  Speaker 4: caught the San Francisco Philadelphia game.
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  Speaker 3: It was great the Packers and the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 4: Packers and the Chiefs that night. I mean, it was fantastic,
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  Speaker 4: I will.
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  Speaker 3: Tell you though.
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  Speaker 5: It was the first time I've ever been involved on
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  Speaker 5: Monday Night football because we've never had one since I
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  Speaker 5: worked here. Yeah, it was the longest week ever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it makes it a little bit longer the extra week
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  Speaker 5: before the practice week starts, and then you're watching all
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  Speaker 5: these games and all these games and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: then Monday rolls around. Oh, we're not on the air
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  Speaker 5: until five, with the pregame show kick off at eight fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: Of my god, what time did you get home?
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  Speaker 3: Late? Yeah? Pretty late. That's part of it though, But.
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  Speaker 5: Really long week, and obviously the way it went down
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  Speaker 5: on Monday, I mean that is just a deflating departure
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  Speaker 5: of the stadium for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 5: When things happened in the fourth quarter there, the stadium
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  Speaker 5: was in shock with Trevor doing what he was doing
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  Speaker 5: after the leg injury.
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  Speaker 4: But let's see, let's see how the week goes. He's
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  Speaker 4: out there a little bit today, Okay, can he build
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  Speaker 4: upon that?
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  Speaker 3: Hey?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't put it past the guy. He's got
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  Speaker 4: some toughness. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be one of these things to where you're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: following it tomorrow when the injury report comes out and
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  Speaker 4: they actually list him as questionable or doubtful or out,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it may be. And then if it's questionable, then
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  Speaker 4: it'll go all the way until shortly before kickoff that
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  Speaker 4: we're sitting there waiting with great anticipation to find out
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  Speaker 4: whether or not he's going to be the starter or
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  Speaker 4: play or what. We don't know binoculars out in the
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  Speaker 4: pregame watching him go through warm ups. Oh, and the
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  Speaker 4: television cameras that will be following the team from arriving
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  Speaker 4: at the hotel to arriving at the stadium to if
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  Speaker 4: he walks out of the tunnel to do a pregame
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  Speaker 4: workout routine, and I mean analyzing the gate of his walk, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: oh of course, and that's expected. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 4: the franchise quarterback. And here's the other thing, you're going
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  Speaker 4: up against the team you don't know who their quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: go to be either for both sides, you know, but
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  Speaker 4: it means a little bit different because they're dealing with
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  Speaker 4: a decision of Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Which backup.
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  Speaker 4: Do we play the guy that we just brought off
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  Speaker 4: of the couch who's been around the National Football League forever?
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  Speaker 4: Or do we play a rookie who's got some mobility
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  Speaker 4: and some starts under his belt for us, who was
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  Speaker 4: a draft pick, you know, and Dorian Thompson, Robinson or
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  Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. It's going to be a very interesting lead
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  Speaker 4: up to the game.
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  Speaker 5: How much does a nasty field and weather conditions play
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  Speaker 5: into your decision?
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  Speaker 3: Coach Logoman?
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  Speaker 4: I think it would would play into my decision in
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  Speaker 4: a big way, especially if it were the old Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: Brown Stadium right, Okay, which was if I remember correctly
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  Speaker 4: that that field plane service was actually below lake level
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  Speaker 4: and was a quagmire, a boggy field if you if
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  Speaker 4: you've ever seen one, it was terrible. But I mean
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  Speaker 4: the new stadium is nice and everything else, but it's
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  Speaker 4: still Cleveland, you know. I just remember about Cleveland is
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  Speaker 4: that when the Jaguars were there, it was Bottlegate. Oh sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: where bottles were flying and you know you there's a player.
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  Speaker 4: Don't take your helmet off, batteries being thrown from the stands.
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  Speaker 4: Don't take your helmet off at Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: Good advice.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't take my helmet off of Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: I'd probably put one on just for the heck of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if you could find one that would you know? You could?
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  Speaker 3: You don't think you don't think I could fit into one.
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  Speaker 4: If you had to wear a helmet. Okay, what face mask?
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  Speaker 4: Would you shooes? The single bar kicker one? I don't
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  Speaker 4: think so, no, no, no no, I'm a tough guy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need that. So all right, So that's obviously
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  Speaker 4: the big storyline this week. If Trevor Lawrence does not go, CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Bethard would be the next man up to and ten
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  Speaker 4: as a student in his career, all with San Francisco.
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  Speaker 4: Came in last week Lives and was nine or ten
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  Speaker 4: passing let him down the field for the field goal
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  Speaker 4: to tie it at the end nine of ten. But
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  Speaker 4: the concerning thing, and okay, let's keep an eye on
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  Speaker 4: this thing is remember that scramble and he kind of
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  Speaker 4: landed on his play and all of a sudden he
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  Speaker 4: gets up and he's he's flexing his left hand wrist,
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  Speaker 4: and now he's listed with a shoulder. So that's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Non throwing shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but still, I mean, if you would talk to
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  Speaker 4: the elite throwers or pitchers, because it's kind of that thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's the motion. If you're off in one
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  Speaker 4: part of your body, it makes you off a little
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  Speaker 4: bit with your motion. You overcompensate and can hurt other
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  Speaker 4: things just different, you know, I mean you're not feeling
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  Speaker 4: the same. So I mean that's something to keep an
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  Speaker 4: eye on, you know. If he ends up being the guy.
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  Speaker 4: We don't any of this yet, but I thought he
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  Speaker 4: did a good job. But I wish that CJ would
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  Speaker 4: not try to be a mobile quarterback and just get
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  Speaker 4: rid of the ball. I'm sure he would like to
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  Speaker 4: not be a mobile quarterback either, by the way, well
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  Speaker 4: especially now, I mean if okay, let's say that this
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  Speaker 4: is hyperthink. Let's say Trevor doesn't play, okay, and then
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  Speaker 4: he's your guy. All right, that's good, Okay, Let's go
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  Speaker 4: you know nine of ten, you know, make some good throws,
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  Speaker 4: be efficient with the ball, and don't get hurt. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: because the next guy is going to be a practice
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  Speaker 4: squad elevation guy, Nathan Rourke, all of the practice squad,
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  Speaker 4: who has got a few starts under his belt in
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  Speaker 4: the Canadian Football League, but he doesn't have any experience
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. So let's not expose ourselves as because
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  Speaker 4: I think sometimes backup quarterbacks have a tendency to when
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  Speaker 4: they get in there, they want to let it, let
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  Speaker 4: it all hang out, to kind of play on the
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  Speaker 4: edge a little bit at rip. Right, But if you're
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  Speaker 4: if you're the guy, let's say he goes in there
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  Speaker 4: and he's the starter, and let's say Trevor's an active hypothetical,
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  Speaker 4: you can't have the mindset that I'm a backup and
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  Speaker 4: I'm just going to go in there and let it
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  Speaker 4: hang out. You have to have the mindset that, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I am the franchise quarterback for this ball game, and
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  Speaker 4: I need to make sure that I protect myself so
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  Speaker 4: I can play the whole game. Got to be smart,
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  Speaker 4: and I hope that if he ends up having to
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  Speaker 4: be the guy, that he ends up being smart. Now,
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  Speaker 4: if it's Trevor, your offensive line, the better learn how
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  Speaker 4: to block pretty quick. And I mean when I say
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  Speaker 4: not learn how to block. They had better block very well,
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  Speaker 4: much like they did against the New Orleans game where
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  Speaker 4: he was going to that game with a question about
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  Speaker 4: his knee. But now we talk about just one position.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't the only injury in that game. Jaja. Oh
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  Speaker 4: my gosh. So this was the longest I've seen in years.
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  Speaker 4: First play of the game. Offensively, Christian Kirk ends up
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  Speaker 4: tearing something in his growing or something. Got to have surgery.
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  Speaker 4: He's done for a while at least, and clearly the
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  Speaker 4: most dependable wide receiver along with Evan Ingram in this offense,
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  Speaker 4: and so losing him is big now. Parker Washington did
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  Speaker 4: a good job in his six targets. Sure the one
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  Speaker 4: catch that he made in the end zone which almost
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  Speaker 4: could have been should have been intercepted.
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  Speaker 3: I dropped.
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  Speaker 4: It was an excellent job of concentration by Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 4: But then there's also a little bit of debate about
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  Speaker 4: with the inexperience and the use of Parker Washington. What
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  Speaker 4: happened on the play that Trevor got hurt. Trevor was
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  Speaker 4: looked like he was trying to throw out to Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 4: Parker Washington wasn't ready. Okay, inexperience, Okay, we want to
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  Speaker 4: have as a quarterback, you want to have the experienced
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  Speaker 4: player around you. So you're looking at no. Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 4: the left tackle Walker Little had a hamstring in that
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  Speaker 4: ballgame did.
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  Speaker 5: And it was apparently a little earlier, right not on
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  Speaker 5: the play that was his last play was when Trevor
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  Speaker 5: got hurt.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't come back in the game either. But I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure exactly how far in front of that play
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  Speaker 4: that was from watching the game on the film, there
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  Speaker 4: were times earlier, well before that play that it appeared
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  Speaker 4: that Walker was favoring that left leg, And if you
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  Speaker 4: look at the play that Trevor got hurt on, there
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  Speaker 4: was something very similar to that a couple of plays
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  Speaker 4: before where he couldn't stop the bull rush because his
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  Speaker 4: hamstring just wasn't giving him any strength, it looked like.
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  Speaker 4: And then on like two plays before when Trevor got hurt,
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  Speaker 4: when walker Little was trying to go to the next level,
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  Speaker 4: second level, he was clearly limping. So you're looking at
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  Speaker 4: Christian Kirk Walker Little. And then on defense, Trey Herndon
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  Speaker 4: on the second defensive play of the ball game sticks
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  Speaker 4: his head in there. He's in the concussion protocol. And
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  Speaker 4: when he got up, I made the comment on the
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  Speaker 4: broadcast that he could barely stand up. He was wobbling,
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  Speaker 4: and Fodokosi wasn't able to finish the ball game with
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  Speaker 4: a foot I think something like that. You know, so
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  Speaker 4: your Cisco was in and out of the lineup a
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  Speaker 4: little bit in this ball.
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  Speaker 3: Game because he's kin to reach his arm out at
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  Speaker 3: one point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it took a pretty good shot on it had
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  Speaker 4: to come out for a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that is a long long list in one game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you know the old saying next man up, Well,
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  Speaker 4: this is poorl Next man up. Yeah, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. And guess what the other team doesn't They
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  Speaker 4: don't care. It doesn't matter no, they don't care. I
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  Speaker 4: mean it's look, somebody else has to play. They're going
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  Speaker 4: to tee it up at one o'clock on Sunday no
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  Speaker 4: matter who's out there. Well, and here's here's another thing
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  Speaker 4: for you. Okay, with the defensive injuries, you got Fotokasi,
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  Speaker 4: he's a big guy up front, and Trey Herndon, who
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  Speaker 4: is a nickel. Okay, A lot of people don't realize this.
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  Speaker 4: The nickel plays an integral part and not only past coverage,
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  Speaker 4: but also the run defense because nowadays the NFL is
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  Speaker 4: eleven personnel, and not to get too fancy, eleven personnel
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  Speaker 4: just simply means one running back, one tight end, three
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers, and the nickel has to be Essentially you
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  Speaker 4: take out a sam linebacker to put in the nickel.
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  Speaker 4: We is on the slot receiver, so he has to
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  Speaker 4: come in for run support quite frequently, so he has
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  Speaker 4: to be a good tackler. Well, the loss of Trey
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  Speaker 4: Herndon is significant because this week with you know, if
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  Speaker 4: he can't play, which I'd be surprised if you've played,
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  Speaker 4: but who knows. Cleveland likes to run the football. With
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  Speaker 4: the questions they have at quarterback, so you're going to
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  Speaker 4: have to expect the nickel to be able to play
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  Speaker 4: a significant role in run support. And he got as
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned, Philokasi Patakasi banged up, and then Devon Hamilton
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  Speaker 4: pushed around a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Last feek.
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  Speaker 4: Devon's he had an injury that we really don't know
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  Speaker 4: a whole lot about, and he's come back. He was
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  Speaker 4: active a few weeks ago and then didn't play well
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  Speaker 4: and then was back on the inactive list, and then
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  Speaker 4: they bring him back and he's active this past game,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't want to say it was like it
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  Speaker 4: like what it was before, but it's still not the
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  Speaker 4: Devon Hamilton that I know and have watched for many
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  Speaker 4: games in his career. He's not back yet. Sometimes players
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  Speaker 4: have to work their way back, and maybe he's in
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  Speaker 4: that position. But the problem is you're in You're in
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  Speaker 4: the in the in the hunt here. Okay, Yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 4: say it's not like you know, Preseeds were like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're just gonna keep getting them reps, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and he's gonna keep getting better. Hey, you gotta play now,
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  Speaker 4: gotta perform now.
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  Speaker 5: Plenty ahead, we'll hear from the quarterback coming up a
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  Speaker 5: little bit which quarterback you ask Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, CJ. Bethard was in the locker room this week.
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  Speaker 4: He also spoke. That's available on Jaguars dot Com. This
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  Speaker 4: Florida's water.
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  Speaker 3: It's worth saving.
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  Speaker 6: The biggest thing is is, as you mentioned, player health,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing. You know, our job as as
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: a medical staff, head coach. We're not gonna put players
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: on the field that can that aren't one hundred percent,
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: that aren't healthy, that that could maybe even further risk
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: more damage you know, to the area that's that's injured.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: And it's our jobs to protect those players and make
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: sure you know, it's it's not at the cost of
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: winning a football game. Obviously, and yes, we are in
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: this this last sort of month of the of the
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: year where we're making making our run. But we also
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: know too that if, for instance, if if Trevor can't
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: play in this game, there's there's gonna come a time
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: at some point where he is, and you know, we've
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: got to we've all got to come together to to
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: kind of weather this storm a little bit so that
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: when you know, if there's a time when he does return,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: so to speak, that you know we make we make
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: that push with him.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And we've kind of gone.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: Through this period of you know, playing playing some backups.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: That is of course.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: The head coach Doug Peterson yesterday, welcome back.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: It is Thursday on ten to Nexcel ninety two point
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Jeff Logeman, and we'll hear from head coach Doug Peterson
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: coming up at five o'clock on the Doug Peterson Show.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: He has not spoken with the media today. He normally
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: does not on Thursdays except with us, you and I logs,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: and then he'll speak again Friday. Then they'll do designations
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day and maybe this drags
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: into the weekend with a quarterback.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: We'll hear from Trevor Lawrence.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Coming up in just a little bit as well, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: some thoughts on he and Bethard moving ahead against the
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns, who are seven and five By the way,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: they are in a wildcard spot at the moment in
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the AFC, and they have the number one defense in
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: the National Football League statistically.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Pretty good, and they're really good at home. They were
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: home records five and one. They have not played great
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: defense the last couple of weeks. The last couple of weeks,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I think they've surrendered sixty five points, which is not
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Cleveland Brown's defense. So I'm sure that they're going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: be very motivated in this ball game. By the way,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I want to go back to Doug Peterson talking about
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: the players gloss over something that wait a minute, I'm
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: listening to him talking and he's dead on and that
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you know you got to you got to weigh everything
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: before you put a player back out there. But he
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: used the term, you know, you can't put him back
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: out or you don't put him back out there until
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent. That's that's a relative hundred percent.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: I think he meant the the injury itself, but not
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: the everybody's not one hundred percent. He later said that
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: in the press cover he understood that you know, this
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: time of year, nobody's.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I think a better way to maybe for people to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: understand it is that you want to put a you
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: don't want to put a player out there unless it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it's a hundred percent you're one hundred percent sure they're
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent sure that there's no risk of making
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: the injury worse, you know, through normal play activity, because
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the reality is nobody's one hundred percent in the National
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Football League at this point of the year. I mean
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: you look, You're You're twelve games in, okay, and it
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: just doesn't happen. Everybody is nicked. And in reality, if
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you wanted to put every single guy on the injury
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: report for something, you could, you could. There's not one
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: player in that locker room does not get an ice
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: bag or get treatment of some kind on some party
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: part of his body. More on the quarterback in just
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: a little while. And yet youre's you know, yes, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: got to make sure that if you just are scrambling
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and slide down or whatever, it doesn't make it worse
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: because that's just part of playing normal football. And we
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: didn't get to see a lot of practice today, just
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: the media time.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: But he was out there. Yeah, he was Brown's defense.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Number one in pass defense, number one in total defense.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Good on third.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Down and really good on the edges of the defensive line.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: What about these edge rushers they have?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean the best one is Miles Garrett.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: And Miles Garrett. And I'm not trying to take anything
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: away from TJ.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Watt.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I think Miles Garrett is the best edge player in
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the National Football League. He's got everything. Now. This past game,
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think he played very well, which I think
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: is going to be a source of motivation for him
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: against the Rams. He was essentially held without a statistic
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: of any kind that I saw, at least what was
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: listed on the game book, which the NFL puts out
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: at their website, which is their statistical website. And then
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I watched the film and watching Miles Garrett. He had
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: moments where he looks like Miles Garrett, but he did
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: not look like he was eight hundred percent.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: What is good Miles Garrett? What does that look like?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: The best pass rusher in the National Football League? In
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: what capacity? What does he do so well? He can
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: do everything and anything. That's what makes him special. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: remember watching his college film and at Texas A and
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: M and you know, because typically JP, you know, I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: watch you know, one hundred, one hundred and twenty prospects
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: every year try to get an idea of the top
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: part of the draft. Correct you do, and it especially
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: when the Jags are picking in the top five, which
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: has happened a lot. Yes, unfortunately, and uh, watching him
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: at A and M and then still watching him in
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the National Football League, He's got a very rare combination
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: of size, length, speed, quickness, agility, athleticism, power. He is
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the total package. And if you look at it from
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: a number standpoint, he has eighty seven and a half
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: career sack. Let me repeat that, eighty seven and a
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: half career sacks and he's gotten those in ninety six
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: career games. If you look in NFL history, because that's
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: at a rate he gets getting a point nine to
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: one sacks per game. Okay, the only one in NFL
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: history that is higher than that is TJ. Watt, which
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: he is at point nine to two sacks per game.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's unbelievable. Last year he had I think
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: sixteen sacks. The year before that sixteen sacks. The guy's
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: a nightmare. And this is gonna be an extreme challenge
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: for whoever is playing tackle on both sides for the Jaguars,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: not to mention, a backup tackle will be on the
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: left side, and I don't know who that's gonna be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Blake Hands maybe Yeah, do they move he jumped in
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: last game? Do they consider moving Anton Harrison over to left?
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I mean the year. I mean, you're looking at different options.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: It's a lot to look at, you know, you're looking
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: at different options. So this guy is fantastic, you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: kind of the game within the game. Jim Schwartz, who
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: is the Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator, was with Doug as
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: his defensive coordinator in Philly for quite a few years sixteen,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, I think through twenty twenty and so now
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: you've got this chess match of two coaches, you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: and although Doug's not the offensive coordinator, it's it's Press Taylor,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: but it's still Doug's offense. You've got that battle of
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: guys that know each other. Though. This is going to
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: be interesting in this Cleveland Brown's defense. Now, from watching
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: them on film, they play hard. I'm talking they play hard,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and they are aggressive. When I say aggressive, they play
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: that wide defensive end. Look, okay, where the defensive ends
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: are out wide and they're coming with their ears pin back.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: They're not coming off the ball reading. They're coming off
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the ball to in flick some pain on a quarterback,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: and you better be ready to be able to block
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: those guys or aggressive in coverage. They're not afraid to
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: play man. They've got a very talented backfield that could
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: end up getting even healthier because their best corner, dezel Ward,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: did not play last week, you know. But overall they've
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: they've invested in that secondary with draft picks. It's some
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: equity they've been not afraid to do that. It's a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: very good secondary. When they run that wide nine, stuff
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: like is that in situations or is that all the time?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Can you run easier against that? Or is that just
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: a pass rushing setup. One of the reasons why the
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: wide nine kind of fell off in popularity for a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: number of years was the ability to stop the run
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: with the wide nine. They're so wide obviously, well, you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: because there's many of those guys on the outside hard
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: and it's just you know, all of a sudden, you're
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: not setting the edge, so to speak, and it's like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: for example, you go to twenty seventeen Jacksonville Jaguars defense.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: Well Todd wash is a defensive coordinator. Klaiis Campbell defensive end.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Where did he play? He played a four I okay,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: which was the inside shade of the tackle instead of
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: a wide nine. It makes you just a little bit
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: more accountable or a little bit better ability to stop
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: the run by having that defensive end inserted a little
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: bit more into the interior. It takes a little bit
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: of a little bit of the pressure off of your safeties.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: So I mean it's gonna be an interesting watch, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: because they are aggressive. But when I say they're aggressive,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: most people think, Okay, they're gonna blitz a lot. They
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: will blitz some, but they've got the ability to pass
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: rush all just for because they have one of the
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: best players in the National Football League on the edge.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: You have elite players. You can get away with that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Certainly plenty ahead. We're back in the moment. Kay Stevens
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: in a student studio, Jaguars reporter.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: We'll get her a little trivia coming up. See if
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: she's got some the answer to.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: We should do this every week. We can have a
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: little trivia every week. I like this, all right, Well,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: we're gonna have one this week at least, and this
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: one's a tough one, you think, So, I think it is.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I think it is.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: You know the answer, So you can't.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm trying to tease it up, like I don't.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, but we're ruin the surprise. Well, look, I
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: mean we'll quiz her because I can tell people this.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I quizzed you earlier. Yeah, you did not get the
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: answer correct, so you failed yet again. This is Jaguars
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint John's River.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Water Management District, Florida's water.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: It's worth saving, Yeah, I mean, the team's always the priority.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: We had obviously the same conversations before the New World
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: earlier in the season. And I'll never put myself for
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: the team in a position to where we're at a
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: higher risk or we're not going to play our best
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: because I'm not able to do my job. So you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: that's those are all questions you have to answer throughout
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: the course of the week, and just for me, it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: just doing everything I can every second of the day
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: to get back as soon as possible, you know, whenever
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: that is. So that's yeah, that's the whole thought process
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: behind everything.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: That's the quarterback, of course. Trevor Lawrence.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Yesterday and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to
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  Speaker 5: you by the Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: It's worth saving. The Jaguars and the Browns coming up.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: The quarterbacks both are on the injury report this week.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: JP Shadwick, Jeff Logman, Kay Stevens joining us in studio.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Now, good afternoon.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: You got your coffee this afternoon, going, it's one of
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: those weeks.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: It's a coffee week. It's a coffee day for sure.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how was a locker room today? I mean yesterday today?
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: You know, coming off that Monday night loss, I mean
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: it is you know that that was a deflating way
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: to leave a stadium, and now to have the injury
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: list building up and you gotta get some of these
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: wins ahead too.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I think that obviously this time of the year, there's
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of players teams that are banged up, but
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: it all coming in one game is crazy because there's
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: maybe three or four people on the injury report last
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: week and.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Now we're at like twelve thirteen.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: So obviously Trevor I'm sure you've talked about already, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of elsewhere injuries that are concerning.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Right when you look at Walker Little.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Who hasn't practiced yet this week. If Trevor can go,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: but then you don't have your starting left tackle cams
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: not there, and you don't have Walker Little at left
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: tackle either, it's like, is this.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: The best idea?
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: So?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And then on the defensive side of the ball, there's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: tons of people out, so it's gonna be they're gonna
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: have to really step up next man up as they
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: like to say, because they're gonna need it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: In Cleveland, watching the Trevor interview that we just heard
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: and watched.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Available on Jaguars dot Com.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: By the way, how about the maturity, Oh my gosh,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: oh a twenty four year old quarterback, fantastic that is
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: sitting there talking about the decision making process of to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: play or not to play, and how how he essentially
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: eloquently talks about everything that goes into that decision making.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing, you know. That's one of the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: things I think that I've always liked about Trevor from
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the very beginning. His level of maturity and JP and
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I were talking earlier that the Cleveland Browns have a
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: rookie quarterback, Toriyan Thompson Robinson. They're essentially the same age.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: He's dtr is a month younger than Trevor. They were
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: both born in ninety nine.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Every time the draft comes up, it's always funny because
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: there's players that are older than him or the same
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: age as him, and it's like, you feel like Trevor's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: been here forever already and they're just getting drafted.
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: So it's just funny.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes like when they're like, oh, do you
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: give anybody advice, like you know, CEJ Strouder, whoever, But
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: it's like some of these people are older than him,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: so it's just funny.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Guy Steven's in studio Jaguars Happy Hour by the way,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Monday's Happy Hour show with that Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: will be at Mister Chubby's Wings and Panavidra.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Will be live on location.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Can't wait, so come join us at Mister Chubby's Wings
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Monday four to six.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: You're gonna get some free wings if I come.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: I think all the food will be available.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I'm guessing there will probably be some kind of spread
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: there are you coming? Yeah, I might have to swing
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: on down.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, bonus and appearance from Jeff Logoman.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I might have to come down. And you know much
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: a little food off of you guys.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: And he will you guys from the Peanut Gallery. How
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: about that? Hey, let's get to the trivia idea. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: missed it earlier logs, but we didn't do it on
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: What do you got? Okay?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: So kai PFF Pro Football Focus everybody's favorite.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Oh yes, and I believe there's a lot of fact
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: behind it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I think there is a lot of value to some
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: of this stuff. Okay. And so they give out weekly
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: on players, and then they also have seizing grades on players,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and it's by position. So they might have defense, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: then you can break it down by position offense, same thing.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: You can have running, receiving, passing, blocking, and defense is
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: just one big category and you can break it down
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: by position. Okay, out of all of the Jaguars, all
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: of the Jaguars, who has the highest PFF rating, no
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: matter position, side of the ball or whatever.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Is this best at your position essentially or at best.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff that goes into.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: It, so they give you a number grade. Okay. So
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: for example, like let's say JP is a defensive back,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: and he's a really good one, he probably he would
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: probably be in the nineties. Okay, your elite players are
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: in the nineties. Okay, So out of all of the
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: players on the fifty three man roster, who has the
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: highest number grade at PFF?
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: Is it a starter essentially or is it like a
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: roach like I.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Mean technically no, okay.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Is there a limit to how much they've played? Like
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: do they have to play a certain amount of games?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: No, Well, he's played every game.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I actually put in there and for the values, because
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: you can actually have different values into your information, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: put in their twenty percent snap minimum because of what
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: that does. That eliminates a lot of guys that might
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: have only played for five snaps. And then a guy,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: for example, might have gotten one sack and two tackles,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: and he's going to have the highest grade just because
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: he's only had five snaps, but he made three great plays.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: So I put a twenty percent snap minimum, which eliminates
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of those guys that might have had only
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: one or two plays and they had a great play
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: on one play.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I think since we're asking this, I'm assuming it's not
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: someone that we would have guessed.
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: So I'm gonna try to guess the opposite of that.
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  Speaker 4: I like your thoughts.
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: Oh you're yeah, fully.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: No, good guess. You get two more.
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: Guesses, Okay. Darius Williams also a good guess.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Good guess.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: He's highly rated, but he's not a monk. He's not
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the highest rated Jaguar player. Give you one more. Treon, No, no, nope,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Trayvon's not doesn't have a great rating on PFF. All right,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: So those are the three guesses. What is the actual answer?
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Logues It is Ross mattisick.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tricky, tricky.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: It's the truth. He's the rated special teams player in
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: the National Football League.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: I bet he knows that already, that.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: He probably does. He has a ninety two point two
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: PFF rating number one. Okay, so he is amongst, okay,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: other great athletes that are in that ninety two point
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: two and up category. I'm gonna give you some names.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: They're in the same stratosphere. Dak Prescott is a ninety
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: two point two okay, Tyreek Hill is a ninety three
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: point nine. Joey Bosa, excuse me, Nick Bosa ninety three
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: point one, Micah Parsons ninety two point seven, Miles garrett
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: A ninety two point four. So ross manisk is amongst
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the elite ok in the PFF categories.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, I will say, you don't talk about the long
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: snapper much unless something bad happens. But we talk about
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: him a lot, So that should tell you that he
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: is among the best set. He is a good football
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and wants to play football. He wants to be a
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: football player. He's not a specialist. That's like, I don't
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: want to get my hands dirty. I don't want to
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: do any of that. He is dying to tackle and
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: be out there linebacker, I believe in high school.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: I think play as a backup at Baylor as well.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Even when he was long snapping, he was still a
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: reserved linebacker. I mean he literally there's only in the
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: National Football I wrote down everybody in the National Football
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: League on PFF that had a ninety two point two
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: rating or higher, and so Ross is amongst the one, two, three, four, five,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: six seven. He is in the top eight in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: National Football League. Okay. The next highest rated player on
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars football team is Josh Allen at PFF's rating
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: of eighty five point seven.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: What do they say, do your own job, your job,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: do your job well.
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: And that's exactly what Ross does.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Pretty cool, exactly what he does. If you're looking for
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the MVP of the truck game, it might be Ross Madison. No,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I look no further than four f one fifty, Loaded
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: with impressive capability and designed to dominate work play and
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: everything in between. This truck makes tough look easy.
• 36:57
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• 37:02
  Speaker 8: Who you got Roy Robertson Harris is with us?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it should be fun one. He's always good with us.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: So who did you have off the field this week
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: your interviews?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I had Josh Allen, the one and only coming up
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: on that franchise record for single saxon a single season.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a good one. Now, First of all,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Josh had he had a really good game. I don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: want to say a great game, but he had a
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: really good game this past Monday, having the sack and
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: a half and the interception the way.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Has anybody thrown a football more perfectly to him.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't ask for anything gift wrapped better
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: than that throw from a wide receiver boyd who clearly
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: doesn't hasn't played.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Quarterback ever in his past, the quarterbacks having the game
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: of his life and they take it out of his hands.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Receiver, what do we do it? I mean, press Taylor,
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: what the hell is your brother doing? Call him something
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: like that. And he did it before and it didn't work.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: He tried to do a little fancy throwback thing and
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: it didn't work.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Okay. I could talk to Josh
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Allen all day long.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Oh absolutely.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I mean he's one of the easiest people to talk
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: to in the locker room. And he was very, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: very honest.
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: After the game.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: He's like, we didn't play good enough at all, or
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: we weren't tough enough at all, like, you know, essentially
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: getting to the point of that they weren't tackling well,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: they weren't. You know, He's honest. He's not gonna go
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and sugarcoat it. And I think I talked to him
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit about it because obviously he was drafted
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: here and kind of how he's grown and become more
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: of a veteran presence in the locker room, and he's like, yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I just had to learn how to kind of talk
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: to people that where they're at, because some people you
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: can be like, hey, that's not good enough.
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: You did this bad, you need to do that. Other
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: people don't work that way.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: So you need to figure out how to communicate with
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: every individual person so you can get the best out
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: of them, which is very insightful and I think a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't always pick that up early on
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: in life, and that's something you figure out later. But
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: pretty cool and obviously Josh is having an inhuman season. Wow.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Josh was raised by one of the greats international Football League,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: and that's Kalais, and so a lot of his age
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: slash wisdom has come from Kalais. And when you talk
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: about building a football team, I'll never forget this because
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I've watched many rebuilding years in Jaguar's history, and when
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: you rebuild or you're building, you have to build with
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: veteran leadership as well. It can't be just coaching leadership.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: And we learned that back in twenty thirteen, where this
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: team essentially got devoid of any veteran leadership because of
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: kind of the attitude at that time they've called well
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: and gush Bradley. They felt that by the time we
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: get better, some of these veteran players wouldn't be around
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: to be able to help us. So they wanted to
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: invest into the youth and learned a hard lesson. You
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: have to have veteran leadership and mentorship on your roster
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: to help raise some of these young guys. Because the
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: reality is, if we're all on the same team and
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: there's a coach down over there and he's talking, I'm
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: gonna listen to you tube probably before I would listen
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: to coach in a lot of cases. And you gotta
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: have it. And that's why I think when when Doug
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: was hired and when Trent balking him got together, they
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: wisely went into free agency and they did their research
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: and brought in guys that were high character, guys that
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: were performing guys to help build this thing. And it's
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: pain dividends right now. You gotta have it, and Josh
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: is one of those players that is very important to
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: having that in this organization.
• 40:44
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• 40:59
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• 41:19
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• 41:39
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  Speaker 4: If you can't make it. Roy Robertson Harris the guest.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Kay Stevens always great. Appreciate you. Jaguars reporter Kay Stevens
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: in studio with.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: US plenty ahead the injury report. Get your pencils and
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: scorecards ready. It's a long one today. When we come back,
• 41:58
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• 42:01
  Speaker 5: John's River Water Management District, Florida's water.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: It's worth saving. Yeah.
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, the team's always the priority.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: We had obviously the same conversations before the New Orleans
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: game earlier in the season. And I'll never put myself
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: for the team in a position to where we're at
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: a higher risk or we're not going to play our
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: best because I'm not able to do my job. So
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: you know, that's those are all questions you have to
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: answer throughout the course of the week, and just for me,
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: it's just doing everything I can every second of the
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: day to get back as soon as possible, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: whenever that is. So that's yeah, that's the whole thought
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: process behind everything.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: There's Trevor Lawrence discussing the process of possibly getting back
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: on the field again. Anna Shaguars Happy Hour brought to
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• 42:58
  Speaker 4: District, Florida's water. It's worth save eight. That was totally
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: worth listening to again because again, the maturity of Trevor
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: is I think far beyond most twenty four year olds,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: which is which is impressive. I think that's one of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the most impressive traits that Trevor does have.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine talking like that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: When I was twenty four, I wasn't even close to
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: being able to talk like that. I mean, and I
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: went to the Harvard of the South. I mean, come on, yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: come on, logs, you would think, oh, okay, he talked
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: like that. Okay, twenty four Okay, explain to people what
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: you think is the Harvard. If you don't know, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: don't know, that's fine, don't worry about I'm waiting.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: That's okay.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: It's time for the injury report, presented by Baptist South,
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Jaguars. It is a long one, of course,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: let's start from the top. The PR staff just put
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: it out a moment ago.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: CJ.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: Bether on the list logs. We talked about this earlier
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: with a left shoulder injury limited Wednesday and Thursday, and
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: it was on the first play that he came into
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: the game when he fell down on that left shoulder.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: He was on the practice field today and he will.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: See with that one.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think we got some video of him
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: on a practice field because the one thing that we
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: notice was he's got some type of device on his
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: left upper arm, which having war devices similar to that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: It looks like some type of a shoulder harness slash
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: shoulder device to help with that shoulder injury that he
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: is listed for on the injury report.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: Christian Braswell's window opened today. The corner back with a
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: hamstring issue limited today. We'll see if that's a quick
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: turn or not. Tyson Campbell with a quadriceps issue now
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: limited both days. That came up in the game, after
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: he has come back from a hamstring issue. Yeah, and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: that's something that's, you know, just worth watching because lot
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: of times when a superior athlete, because Tyson Campbell is
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: one of a superior athlete for sure, when you have
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: an injury to one muscle, sometimes you are compensating elsewhere
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: or not doing your normal motions, so to speak, and
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: you can get injuries elsewhere. And so I hope that
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: that's not the case because you had the hamstring, now
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: it's the quad, and you hope that everything just calms
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: down with him, because there's nothing worse for an athlete
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: that's got to run like a corner wide receiver to
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: have a soft tissue injury. Other players on the list
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: this week Andre Cisco with a shoulder injury limited Wednesday
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: and Thursday. He did return to the game after coming
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: out for a short time. Travis Et and Junior Ribs
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: injury limited both days. And you know, it just hasn't
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: looked the same the last couple of weeks. No, you
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: can when you watch him, he's still got the speed
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: and when he gets into the open feet, but you're
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: not quite seeing I'm going to lower my pads and
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: just grind it out for the last couple of yards.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: You're seeing a little bit of hesitancy to finish with power,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: which is an indicator to me that you know there's
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: something going on that he's not comfortable doing that. Hopefully
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: that will get better. But you know the other thing
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: is at that position, Darnce Johnson's on the injury report
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: as well, knee injury limited both days of practice so far.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: That's not ideal. No, so you've got, you know, both
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: of your running backs and Tank Bigsby is your third.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: You have Snoop Connor on the practice squad, who is
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: a guy that could always be brought up for a
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: standard practice squad elevation if need be. But the question
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: that I have is the injuries that you have with
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Etn and Durness Johnson. Does that open up a role
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: for Tank Bigsby more so than what he's had. Something
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to keep an eye right, something to watch there, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: do the coaches trust him? That's a bigger question I think,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: fully fed a costly defensive lineman with a heel injury.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Limited both days this week. Trey Herndon concussion protocol and
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: has not practiced this week. That's not trending the right way.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Zay Jones with a knee issue, limited both days, but
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: he's played the last couple of weeks. Christian Kirk groin issue,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: did not practice. Of course, it sounds like he's gonna
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: go under the knife at some point. Walker Little with.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: A hamstring injury, did not practice yesterday or today. Brenton
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Strange with a foot injury, no practice this week so far.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: And Trevor Lawrence, the quarterback with the high ankle sprain,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: did not practice yesterday, officially limited today. I'm sure they'll
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: see how he recovers from today, and then tomorrow's the
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: last day of full practice before designations Tomorrow afternoon.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that will be interesting to watch. The one that
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: we haven't really talked about it is Brenton Strange, and
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: that's a guy that really adds a lot of value
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: to this offense, especially in the run game. And I
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: think that at some point he's got to be a
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: little bit more involved in the passing game because I
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: think he's got a really good skill set for that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: But what they're asking him to do right now is
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: to mainly handle that blocking role, and he's doing a
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: really good job with it. And he sustained the injury
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: last week in practice, I believe, and that was unfortunate.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: And hopefully, you know, the foots are kind of interesting
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: meat to a foot, the feet or the feet well
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, hopefully it's just one, okay, which
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: will be the foot. But a foot injury is always
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: concerning because certain body parts you can always rest them
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: and uh and work your way through it by restricting
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: certain stress on that particular body part. You can't do
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: that with a foot because you use your feet with everything.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Thank you, I got to correct that. You figured it
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: out singular the plurals. There's a lot of different there.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Uday, December twelfth, five to six pm head to the
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: publics at the shops at Beach Walk in Saint John's.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: That's on the two ten exit. If you're going south,
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: your turn left and it's on the right. I believe
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: I'm not too familiar with Saint John's, but you can
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: meet Jaguars players for a special appearance from five to
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: six pm. That's the Public Supermarket eight thirty five County
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Road to ten West in Saint John's. I think that
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: is exactly where it is after reading the address.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Now Tuesday, December twelfth, five to six pm and members
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: of the Jaguars you can meet him there before they
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: head to Cleveland. Doug Petersons show coming up.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: In mere moments, we will ask about the quarterbacks logs.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I have an idea we may not.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Learn a lot about the quarterbacks, but he'll try. We'll try.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: That's all we can do.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: We're gonna ask. All he has to do is either
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: answer or not. Those usually pretty good. He'll answer, Yeah,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: he'll I'll answer. But I mean, you know, I don't
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: know how much information is gonna be in there, because look,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: here's the reality. You you've got a competitive advantage to
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: keep all that information close.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: To the desk.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: We'll see in mere moments how much you'll give up
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: about the quarterback situation. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Hour that Doug Peterson shows next