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Cubs land a closer, Mets/Alonso battling, Astros frontrunners for Bregman? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Because again, if they want him that badly, this would
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  Speaker 1: be done.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Cohen has shown the propensity when he once a guy,
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  Speaker 2: he goes and gets him.
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  Speaker 3: After Monday. What a weekend, What a freaking weekend? Where's fun?
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  Speaker 3: I was with my friends in person, including the two
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  Speaker 3: that you're looking at right now or listening to if
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  Speaker 3: you catch it later, Kratz and Pierzinski AJ did you
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  Speaker 3: have a blast? And how cool was it to stream
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  Speaker 3: that whole event for the first time It's been done
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  Speaker 3: one hundred times. The BBWA Awards dinner, we had all
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  Speaker 3: the big guests, so you do a nice little job
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  Speaker 3: hustling to grab some of them. But your overall thoughts
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  Speaker 3: and grades for the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the weekend overall was an a plus, not only
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  Speaker 2: for the awards dinner, but getting to see friends old
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  Speaker 2: and new. Guys. I played with guys, I played against
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  Speaker 2: guys I worked with like David Cohene, who I don't
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  Speaker 2: get to see very often anymore. And I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 2: as a player, I had no idea that that was
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  Speaker 2: a thing. I just thought there was like an awards
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  Speaker 2: thing where they just hand you your cy young and
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  Speaker 2: the hand you your MVP and the hand your manager.
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea it was a whole dinner and
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  Speaker 2: a whole experience like it was. So it was awesome
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  Speaker 2: to be there in person. And you know what, I
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  Speaker 2: got to have a great weekend. I went to some
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  Speaker 2: of the best restaurants and New York. I got into
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  Speaker 2: one of the hardest ones in the world last night.
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  Speaker 2: It's called Corner Store and had dinner there last night.
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  Speaker 2: So thanks for thanks to Ken, and thanks to Mark
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  Speaker 2: for paying for my weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we took the boys out to dinner on Friday, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: or the group out to dinner on Friday, obviously, not
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  Speaker 3: Kratz because he was local. So we saw you Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: But just want to shout out the writers, the players,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to show you know, a mix of
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  Speaker 3: some of the conversations that we had from over the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: You can of course catch all of that on our
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  Speaker 3: socials YouTube, et cetera, but we'll show you like a
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  Speaker 3: little recap video and then we are going to run
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  Speaker 3: in full the pauls Ian's conversation later on in the show,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll run the Barry Bonds conversation tomorrow, so you
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  Speaker 3: can catch a lot of that and you can get
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  Speaker 3: it if you know where to find it early, but
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  Speaker 3: we're also going to run it for the TV crowd.
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  Speaker 2: When was the last time Barry talked to anybody about anything?
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question. Years, right, years since I've seen
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  Speaker 3: him sit down with anyone. And I'm talking years and years.
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen any sit down interviews at all with
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  Speaker 3: Barry Bonds, you know? And we had him for what
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  Speaker 3: ten minutes? I don't think, so I don't think we've
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  Speaker 3: had any and he was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him in Rickwood, right him and I think, Griffy,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we're together. And it was real quick though on Fox,
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  Speaker 2: and they did the Rickwood game luster because Willie had
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  Speaker 2: just passed, and so they had Barry there and did
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  Speaker 2: a whole thing. But that's the first time and we
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  Speaker 2: were super lucky. So thank you Berry if you see this,
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  Speaker 2: because I know you watch our clips, because you showed
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  Speaker 2: me on your phone you had my clips and he
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  Speaker 2: told me he said that I was telling the truth.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you about some of those stories. But I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen him do a sit down anything, and it's
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  Speaker 2: been years and years, and I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons he did is obviously I played with him, but
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  Speaker 2: he also knows he can trust us on the show
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  Speaker 2: because we're not going to put him in a situation
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  Speaker 2: that puts him in a bad spot. And he was
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  Speaker 2: very open about a lot of stuff. And if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen the video, you watch it tomorrow. And if
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  Speaker 2: you ever want to know anything about hitting, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: in ten minutes he gave like his five biggest keys
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  Speaker 2: to hitting. It was pretty incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. And then there was news too
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  Speaker 3: over the weekend. We hit some of that during the
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  Speaker 3: award show. But let's rerack it right now, because we've
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  Speaker 3: got a trade. Let's charge.
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  Speaker 1: Let's charge about.
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  Speaker 3: Cubs got themselves a little closer. Cratzy Ryan Presley from
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  Speaker 3: Houston over to Chicago. He waves the no trade and
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  Speaker 3: Chandler Rome has been all over this story. Crush City
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  Speaker 3: Territories got episodes up. They're going to do a combo
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  Speaker 3: episode with North Side Territories if you want to learn
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  Speaker 3: a lot more about how this impacts the Cubs, how
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  Speaker 3: it impacts Houston. Kratz Presley's bona fide clutch. Obviously maybe
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  Speaker 3: not the same exact stuff as it was from a
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  Speaker 3: few years ago, but this is the part that stands
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  Speaker 3: out that we're looking at on the screen right now.
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  Speaker 3: Gave up a low level prospect the Cubs did, and
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  Speaker 3: then pick up their closer plus five and a half
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  Speaker 3: million dollars to cover some of the fourteen. So they
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  Speaker 3: just got themselves an eight and a half million dollar
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  Speaker 3: closer that I guess. You know, you could put that
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  Speaker 3: price on the marketplace, and I would have been surprised
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  Speaker 3: if Ryan Presley was a free agent and got just
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  Speaker 3: one season in eight and a half milt. But that's
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  Speaker 3: what the market says. I mean, clearly, if a team
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  Speaker 3: called them and said, i'll give you know, I'll pick
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  Speaker 3: up twelve out of fourteen, the Astros would have entertained
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  Speaker 3: the conversation. I'm surprised that the value is there for Presley,
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  Speaker 3: and I think he's going to have a monster year
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  Speaker 3: for the Cubs.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, the stuff isn't there, but the results
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  Speaker 4: are still there and you can never Obviously, the Cubs
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  Speaker 4: with this move, with the Tucker move, I think they
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  Speaker 4: want to make the playoffs, whether we think they'd did
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  Speaker 4: enough or not. Solidifying the closer role, let alone at
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  Speaker 4: eight and a half million dollars, Like Mom, Bridou must
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  Speaker 4: be a stud because to me, if I'm another team,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sitting there going we need a closer, want a closer,
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  Speaker 4: whatever our situation is, how did we not get an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity at this like this seems this seems like a
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  Speaker 4: really sweet deal for the Cubs, and good job by
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  Speaker 4: Presley was still wanting to be a closer, being okay,
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  Speaker 4: leaving his home, leaving where he spends essentially all the
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  Speaker 4: time except for spring training.
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  Speaker 2: My biggest thing is is this free money for them
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  Speaker 2: bigle get Alex Pregman. Why do they need to trade
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Presley. I didn't feel like this was a necessity
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  Speaker 2: unless they went up there offered Alex Pregman and try
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  Speaker 2: to get him to come back. That's the only thing
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  Speaker 2: I can see this for. Presley's been a valuable guy.
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  Speaker 2: I know he wasn't happy once they got hater, but
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  Speaker 2: he still done a nice job for him going to
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs. He's gonna slide right into the ninth inning
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  Speaker 2: in his free agent year again. So and he got
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  Speaker 2: a little money to you know, work the tax stuff out.
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  Speaker 2: And he got another no trade. So he just because
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  Speaker 2: he got traded, he still gets the no trade in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: So this was a win win for Ryan Presley and
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  Speaker 2: if the astros, if it helps him get Alex Pregman,
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  Speaker 2: this was a good trade for the astros.
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  Speaker 3: I will say. Chandler Rome referred to what you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about this morning as the astro is shopping him the
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  Speaker 3: entire offseason. So he was like, it's not as if
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  Speaker 3: they're at the one yard line. They've got this deal
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  Speaker 3: with Bregman. They just have to trade away Presley and
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  Speaker 3: free up some extra money for twenty twenty five. But
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  Speaker 3: I am with you that still could happen, right, It
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  Speaker 3: was still help right. This has been a.
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  Speaker 2: Free agent all off season and they've been trying to
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  Speaker 2: trade Ryan Presley all off season. Alex bregmant, Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: of course he calls his perturn. But every this is
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  Speaker 2: called negotiations, right as re engagement calls the potential return along. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what that's called negotiations through the media. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's crack. I mean, come on, let's be honest here.
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  Speaker 2: It puts a hole in the bullpen, but if the
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  Speaker 2: hole is filled by Alex Pregnant, it'll work. I just
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  Speaker 2: don't know why they would trade Brian Presley when they
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  Speaker 2: had a bray you Presley Hater seventy nine. Now they
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  Speaker 2: got to find somebody to fill that role. Who will
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  Speaker 2: be I don't know, maybe they'll go on sign somebody
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  Speaker 2: if they don't sign Alex Bringer, but it's getting to
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  Speaker 2: be kind of slim pickens.
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  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I mean, in my Minecrats, I think the
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  Speaker 3: Astros feel like they're still in good shape with their bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: Whether that's accurate or not. I mean, this was set
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  Speaker 3: in stone for them. If someone's going to take X
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  Speaker 3: amount of money and Ryan Presley's going to say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: then we're going to do this. So here's what we're
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  Speaker 3: looking at. And obviously the two at the top stand out.
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  Speaker 3: A ton Josh Hater is one of the best closers
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  Speaker 3: in baseball. Brian and Brew has been one of the
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  Speaker 3: best relievers in the sport for the last few seasons.
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  Speaker 3: And then there are a lot of names that have
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  Speaker 3: some potential but don't necessarily scary it here. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think Ord had a nice year last year, right,
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Scott was really good for them last year. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they figure that they're going to be able
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  Speaker 3: to piece this together because some organizations are really good
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  Speaker 3: at building bullpens. And some organizations generally don't do a
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  Speaker 3: good job. Houston's been pretty solid in that department for
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  Speaker 3: a while, which is part of why they've been so
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  Speaker 3: good over the past decade plus. It's probably the most
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  Speaker 3: underrated part of what they put together. Everyone knows the core,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everyone knows some of the big name starters.
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  Speaker 3: But if you have an absolute crap bullpen for years,
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  Speaker 3: it's not working. And up until Hater just now, it's
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  Speaker 3: not like they were spending like crazy to put this
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  Speaker 3: bullpen together. They took care of the guys they were
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  Speaker 3: supposed to take care of. Ryan Presley is one of them,
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  Speaker 3: and they also made a mistake with Rafael Montero, who
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  Speaker 3: has not worked out for them since that big season
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  Speaker 3: when they won the World Series in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: But I think they're not concerned based on past success
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  Speaker 3: that they've had with their arms.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's a big thing. What do the Astros do,
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  Speaker 4: if you sum it up, besides winning, They don't strike
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  Speaker 4: out when they're hitting, and they strike everybody out when
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  Speaker 4: they're pitching. So if they felt like they could get
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  Speaker 4: rid of Presley, because it's really only coming down to
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  Speaker 4: eight and a half million dollars. That's not even close
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  Speaker 4: to what you know. You'd think you would need to
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  Speaker 4: get another big piece, like a Bregmann piece. So if
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  Speaker 4: they knew, they could get rid of Presley and put
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  Speaker 4: somebody else in there, you know, maybe Ort. Maybe Ort
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  Speaker 4: has another great year, so that's a huge pickup. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: Montero makes the team and he figures something out. They
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  Speaker 4: figure out how to minimize strikeouts when they're hitting and
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  Speaker 4: to maximize strikeouts when they're pitching, so they feel like
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  Speaker 4: they can cover it. I guess because they have a closer.
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  Speaker 4: They have a bona fide closer in Josh Hater who's
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  Speaker 4: willing to throw two innings too, So it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: a new piece for him in there.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So then let's get to the next layer.
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  Speaker 3: Let's push photo.
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  Speaker 2: But I disagree with that. I disagree with that, because
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  Speaker 2: those guys are improving, we should the list. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: those guys aren't proving guys like like Ryan, like Presley was,
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  Speaker 2: like Ryan Presley was, So I mean, I bring you
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  Speaker 2: and Hater and and the rest of Fort Whitley was
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  Speaker 2: a big prospect never really panned out, got hurt. The
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  Speaker 2: rest of these guys aren't really proven guys or it's
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  Speaker 2: been around a little bit. Montero is you know, but
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  Speaker 2: didn't they defa him last year or didn't they.
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  Speaker 1: Do something to him? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you know, it would look nice
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  Speaker 2: there may Tow would look nice coming back there Isn't he.
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  Speaker 1: Still a free agent?
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  Speaker 2: I think he's still out there. I mean, he did
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  Speaker 2: really well for them, he'd be a nice fit for them.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just don't think this. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think this opens a money five and a half million,
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  Speaker 2: I get that, but I mean that's five and a
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  Speaker 2: half million more they can offer Alex Pregman, maybe on
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  Speaker 2: a short term deal.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Bragmant comes back for one year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I just don't know why Houston
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  Speaker 2: would do this unless Ryan Presley was that unhappy.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think they know what they have. I
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  Speaker 4: think they know what they have in those unproven pieces.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't see Ryan Presley being that upset.
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  Speaker 4: But hey, you know what, or we're obviously just just
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  Speaker 4: conjecture because we don't know what he's feeling. But to me,
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  Speaker 4: they have to know what they have. It's similar to
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  Speaker 4: a team that's claiming a lot of guys Like if
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  Speaker 4: they bring these guys in, they feel like the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: for them to have success in a pen iss soon
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  Speaker 4: better than what they had in Presley. But you just can't.
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  Speaker 4: I hate to see the Astros make it to the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs and be like, yeah, let's go like, we got
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  Speaker 4: a bray you, we got Hater, we got press Uh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: we got a bray you and we got Hater. Like
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  Speaker 4: that was formidable. Three guys that covers four innings for
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  Speaker 4: you in the playoffs for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, Presley picked it up as the
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  Speaker 3: season went on, but even a spot I mentioned like
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  Speaker 3: it was tough for him to lose that role, and
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  Speaker 3: technically he didn't do anything to lose that role. They
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  Speaker 3: just ended up buying a nice shiny gem off the
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  Speaker 3: free agent market. All right, two more parts here real quick.
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  Speaker 3: I want to get to the Cubs bullpen because I
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  Speaker 3: feel much better now about the Cubs bullpen. They have
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  Speaker 3: some good arms there. Porter Hodge's a beast, and he
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  Speaker 3: looked down the stretch. I just I don't want him closing.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Nate Pearson's always had talent and been one
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  Speaker 3: of the top prospect arms for a while, but couldn't
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  Speaker 3: stay on the field and then you know, had difficulty
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  Speaker 3: with his command in the bigs. But he's got good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: There's some other names that we've known there for a while. Merriweather,
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  Speaker 3: Caleb Theelbar's been hanging around the league for a while
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  Speaker 3: and bounced back down the stretch last year and was
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  Speaker 3: picked up by the Cubs. Kegan Thompson been in that
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  Speaker 3: system for a while. So I just feel much better
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  Speaker 3: now with Presley at the top of this list, AJ
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  Speaker 3: and feel like what was a weakness for the Cubs
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  Speaker 3: could at least be more mid level, right, a good
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  Speaker 3: enough bullpen for them to compete again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is because of the division they're in. For me,
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  Speaker 2: That's why Presley's a nice end at the at the end.
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  Speaker 2: Pearson has been a guy that the Blue Jay's hyped
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  Speaker 2: up forever and ever Thel Barr had a down year
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  Speaker 2: last year for the Twins. I just I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would love to see another established guy
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  Speaker 2: come in there for the Cubs, and Pressey's a nice touch,
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  Speaker 2: but I'd love to see one more or veteran guy
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  Speaker 2: come in and solidify the seventh, the sixth, seventh or
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  Speaker 2: eighth inning for them because bullpens I keep saying this,
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  Speaker 2: but they're one of the most volatile units in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: One year you could have the greatest bullpen of all time,
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  Speaker 2: and the next year for the same guys with the
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  Speaker 2: same stuff and the same roles, and they don't do
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  Speaker 2: it as well, and you just can't ever figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: Tyson Millers, Tyson Miller's got some nice numbers, but it's
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  Speaker 4: not a lot of punch outs. But what are the
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  Speaker 4: Cubs do well? They field the ball, So you know what,
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  Speaker 4: if you're gonna build that bullpen, maybe it doesn't look
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  Speaker 4: like doesn't look like the just absolute punch out city.
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  Speaker 4: But to me, there's too much. Ah, you know, we're
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  Speaker 4: really leaning on this guy. I haven't bounced back Nate
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  Speaker 4: Pearson to like like his career has been exactly what
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  Speaker 4: AJ said, like pumped up from the Blue Jays. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he has success with his you know, flatter fastball in
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  Speaker 4: the bullpen that guys were seeing when he was starting.
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  Speaker 4: Julie Merriweather's coming off of injury, he had one year
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  Speaker 4: where he was dominant. He could be your eighth inning.
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  Speaker 4: There's just a lot of could bees should be How
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  Speaker 4: is Craig Council going to do it, No idea, but
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  Speaker 4: he was a master at it with in Milwaukee, and
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  Speaker 4: he's got to be able to have somebody at the end,
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  Speaker 4: which he didn't have the last few years. Alas I,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Al whatever his name is, Lazole, thank you was he
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: was down there and they just they ran him to
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: death for a while and it was just like, you
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: can't keep doing that. And now they have a solid
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: veteran piece. He just need to keep getting more pieces
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: in there. Like AJ said, I'd like to see maybe
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: one more. We just said with phil Aton, he knows
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: what he's doing down there.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Al'sai by the way, signed a minor league deal
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: with the Mets, two year contract and he's coming back
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: from Tommy Johnson. He was money though a couple of
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: years ago for them and then kind of fell apart.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: All right, last layer here. Do we think that the
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Houston Ashers are going to now reunite with Alex Bregman.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: We talked a lot about this over the weekend. Ken
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Rosenthal kind of hinted that he's feeling it. I listened
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: to him again talk about it on Fair Territory. But
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: how the positioning will get a little weird, and Ken
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: kind of made a case for Bregman to join them
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: and potentially look at playing him at second base instead
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: of at third, keeping parties at third base. We'll see
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: one other layer before you comment here. Aj Alex Spear
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: from Weei, who covers the Red Sox, said that the
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Socks are still talking to Bregman's camp, but they only
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: want a short term agreement aka no longer than four years.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if Chandler Rome, who has told us that
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: the sixth year one fifty six mili is still out there,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: is correct, why the hell would he take a four
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: year deal from Boston unless they're planning on giving him
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: four years two hundred. So I think chances are lining
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: up that he's either going to Houston or Detroit. But
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: if Detroit hasn't gotten him since then, I think Houston's
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: in play and he might go back there for you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: maybe it's six one sixty something so that they could
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: say all this time wasting from the six peint fifty
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: six was worth it. And there's a couple deferrals that
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: basically make it the same price as what they offered
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: two months ago.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I love that. For them to do that,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I think it would be great. I think Alex Brigman
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: is the guy that came up with the Astros, drafted
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: by the Astros, has been with the Astros his entire career,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: has been through the good times and the bad times.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Whatever those bad times are. Whatever the people want to say.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You know, whatever they did in seventeen in those years,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: they did it, okay, But he's been through it all.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He's won, He's been a proven veteran winner for him,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and I think he should stay an Astro for his
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: entire career. Now that's the softy in me. But at
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the same time, if the Detroit Tigers and someone he
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: knows about, aj Hinch come to them and say, hey,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: we're gonna blow you out of the water, he's gonna leave.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: So do I think the door's open. I think it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: more open than it was a couple days ago once
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Presley got traded. Do I think he's gonna end up
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: back there? We all know how Scott Boris works, so
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I think Bragman once ultimately probably wants to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: go back there, but he also wants to get fair
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: market value.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: That's where it's going to be interesting.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I think they get them. I think they get them.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think it is a perfect fit with the
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: defensive alignment. But I'm afraid unless somebody like like the
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Jays were to jump in. You know, we don't know
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: about that. We haven't heard about them. I just don't
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: feel like we just heard about Boston. I don't feel
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: like the Tigers really want to go that long either.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Old Hobby Baya is hangover. I just I think it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: gonna end up being the Astros. It could be that
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: six years. It also could be like a six year
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: with a opt out after the first year, so he
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: can say, you know what, I think I deserve more.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I think the market would give me more. We'll see
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: what happens.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Ready for this, Bregman signs with Houston. Astros trade parades
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: to a team that needs a third baseman because there's
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: still a few of them, maybe even back to Detroit
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: or Boston. They get an outfielder because they need an outfielder,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: so book it. Okay, that's the next week.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: No, but no, no, they don't need an outfielder. If
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Josel two they slides out to the outfield.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I know, but I want to stack. I want Bragman
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: at third.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You want Paris Bat in that lineup? I want parides
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Bat eighty one times in minime or not it's called minime,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: whatever it's called now.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Dyking yeah, dyk in park Yeah. But anyway, I could
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: see it happening because also they would want to clear
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: some money and Parade just getting paid a decent rate
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: YouTube fan. We're hanging out with you in the chat
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: today as usual, Brandon threw this out there and I
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I might as well bring
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: it up now. He goes, Michael King on the block
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: two for the padres. I don't know if you guys
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: caught this yet, but we'll ask Ken when he's on
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: in the next day or two. In Ken's notes column
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: this morning in The Athletic, he said that starting pitching
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: trades could be holding up the market a bit for
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: a number of mid tier starters that are still available
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: on the market. There's like a pretty good list of
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: names still available, so he mentioned the trade candidates as Castillo,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Dylan Ces and Michael King.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, by Michael King, Michael King doesn't make sense, su
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Steel servant. Why Michael King? Is there something we're missing here?
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: With old Michael, he's I think this is his free
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: agent year or no, and it's making this and that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: he's gonna go to ARB and it's gonna be seven
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: or eight million bucks. But to me, this is kind
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: of starting to tell the picture of what's going on
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: with the Padres. Okay, there was a report that they're
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: not going to significantly cut payroll and be outside of
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: the top ten, but their projected payroll right now is
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: thirty million dollars over the eleventh place team on payroll
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: in the Diamondback, So obviously they can still do some
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: pretty significant cutting and they would be in the top
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: ten in payroll. So to me, it's meaning that they're
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: not going to add much and if anything, they might
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: subtract one of those names from the starting rotation. That's
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: a problem.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You think they've you think they've looked into like getting
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: rid of somebody else's contract, like one of those big contracts,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: and there's just no traction out there because you can't
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: just keep you can't keep all these guys on the roster.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: They're making that huge amount of money and keep cut cutting.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: To me, what I think are bargains they're cutting, not
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: that they're cutting them. Sorry, if they get rid of Cease,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: he's a bargain for I think he's twelve or thirteen
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: million for this year. If they get rid of Michael Kings,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: they straight them, must they get rid of them? Eight
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: something to dude was seventh in Cy Young voting like
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: he had legitimate top ten Cy Young votes here, and
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: you would be getting rid of them like that. I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: feel like that's weird, unless maybe hopefully they would be
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: throwing one of those higher contract guys in and then
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: maybe it makes a little more sense. But man, it
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: just it's just weird to me. Yeah, that's what he said.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. They had amazing day this past
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: week and that's the fan fest for the Mets. Apparently
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: they hadn't done it in years, I think maybe five years,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: and it sounded like it was a great event, So
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: they should do it. All teams should do their fan
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: fests as often as possible. Please. But Steve Cohen did
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: something that most owners would never do. He addressed a
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: current free agency situation. As Mets fans were chanting, we
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: want Pete, we want Pete, Steve Cohen was like, hold up,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: hold up, and we have what he said here. It is.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: We've put you know, we've made a significant offer to
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Pete and and you know what David says, correct, he's
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: entitled to go out and explore his market, and that's
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: what he's doing. Personally, this has been an exhausting conversation
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: and negotiation. I mean, so noo was tough. This is worse, okay,
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: and and a lot of it is. You know, we've
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: made a significant I don't like the structures that are
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: being presented back to us. I think it's highly asymmetric
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: against us, and and I feel strongly about it. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: so you know, I will never say no. You know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: there's always the possibility. But the reality is, you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: we're moving forward, and you know, we continue to bring
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: in players. As we continue to bring in players, the
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: reality is, you know, it becomes harder to fit Pete
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: into ah, you know what is a very expensive you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: uh group of players that we already have and.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: And very interesting, very interesting.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: You know what he just said, We don't really want
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Pete that bad because if he wanted Pete that beat,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: he'd go out and do with so you do with
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Sodo and go get them U. I don't know, it
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: was interesting. Why is it exhausting, Steve? You know, Cohen,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Steve go, why why is it exhausting to you? You
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: because Boris is trying to negotiate with you hard. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: mean he negotiated hard with Soto, but you wanted Sodo,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: so you said, okay.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Now you're you're like, uh, you know, Pete, we like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you and the fans love you. You've done a lot
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of good things here. But he already said it he
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: didn't really fit with the roster we have.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: This sounded like David Stearns in for the first time,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and Steve Cohen's here saying, you know, we don't need
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to spend all the money in the world. If he
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: wants to cover here on a lesser deal, we'll take
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: him back. But if he doesn't get what he wants,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: we're also okay with our roster letting him walk away.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I just think it's exactly what you said. He doesn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: want to I don't really want Pete that bad. Pete
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: wants to be there. Maybe Pete doesn't have have all
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: of the looks that he's saying they have, or maybe
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: he's like I don't really want to go to Toronto
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: or another mister team that's asking him or offering him something.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: But to me, is Coen gonna get in trouble for this?
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Because I know a GM can't talk about free agents?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Our owner's allowed to do this. Is he gonna get
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: in trouble because you can't?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: No, he won't, Okay, no, no, no, I'll tell you no.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: There's an explanation here. Will he get in trouble?
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: No?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Is he allowed to talk like this? It's very questionable.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: It was in Ken's Notes column and he spoke about
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: it today on Fair Territory. Talked about how it's called
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Attachment forty nine, right, and you're violating that attachment in
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the CBA agreement with the league and the players in
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: response to pass acts of collusion by the clubs. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: designed to prevent club officials from attempting to influence the
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: market through public comments and theory. Ken said this also
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: applies to agents. But obviously, yeah, there's been, you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: discussions in the past that have led to I think
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Grievance's file that doesn't usually actually happen. I personally think
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that part will be a nothing burger. Crats I mean,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you do have to be super careful owners execs will
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: almost never go this far. But I don't think he
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: laid out too many details. He just said that they
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: were pissed off about out what was going on in
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the negotiations right now. He didn't say, like, here's where
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the money's at and here's what we want to offer him,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: right because if you start doing that now, you're you're
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: kind of giving away his market. But I don't know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: do you feel like on the player's side, like Pete
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: should be bothered about something like this because the owner
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: came out and said that the talks are about or
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Aj what about you. I mean, like, let's say hit
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: free agency and you guys aren't coming to an agreement,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And then the owner of the team's like, yeah, this
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: has been a pain in the ass.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'd be pissed. If I was Pete, I'd be pissed.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you got to say that publicly?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Call me, Call me, mister Cohen, Call me and tell
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: me that, you know, maybe we can get some done. Now,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Scot Bors will never go for this, but maybe we
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: can get some done between the two of us, maybe,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you know, and listen, Scott Bors has been through a lot.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: He's had a great offseason. He's got a lot of
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: his guys son, but he's got a couple big ones
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: still sitting out there. One is Bregmant. One is Pete Alonso.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Where's he going to get those guys? We saw Scott
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: on Saturday night. He was all smiles. I mean, his
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: guy schoobl Once, his other guy Manaiah won Nice Guy Award.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He's made a ton of money this offseason. But you
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: know what, he's got two big guys sitting out there.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: So if I was Scott Boris and I was Pete Alonso,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want him negotiating because this is.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Negotiating through the newspaper. Negotiate with me, don't.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You don't need to go out there talk to me,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: call me, don't don't don't go do it publicly because
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you know what this does.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: The fans are all we want Pete, we want Pete.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Steve Cohen's trying to get ahead of him and saying, well,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: this is why Pete's a bad guy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And Pete's not really doing this.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You know he's bad negotiating Like whatever, No, just just
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: do this with me. You don't need to see you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: know what he should have said, you know what, we
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: want Pete back. Also, hopefully we can get a deal done. Boom,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: it kills it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's over.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But instead he says what he says, and he get
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Boris riled up, you get Pete riled up, and you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: get the fans railed up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gone. I think this actually helps
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: on some closure for Pete to be like, Okay, I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: see where we're going here. All right, let's get to
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Jim Bowden posting about the Scott Boris comments and just
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: more about the situation, you know. He said it was
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: interesting to hear Cohen concerned about the structure. He said
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: optats have been commonplace like Bellinger, snow l Rodon, et cetera.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Oftentimes gms, not players use biots to defer money to
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: another year for accounting purposes. Because there was some confusion here,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I'm jumping in with some of the local radio like
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: not understanding how baseball contracts work. But he was referred
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to how the Cubs moved five MILI of the Bellinger
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: deal as a buyout of the opt out year, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: really it was thirty two and a half million dollars
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: it's just good accounting on teams to be able to
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: pay a little bit more of that towards the end
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: of the year. Contract structure is an easy barrier to
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: overcome for both sides. It's always mostly about money, not structure.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Let's show will Salmon two here with the reply from Boris.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: So Scott Boris publicly came out right after that and
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: said that the free agent contract structure request is identical
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to the standards and practices of other clubs who have
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: signed similarly situated, qualifying off or All star level players.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Nothing different, just established fairness standards guys. For me, I
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: just think the Mets have drawn their line. They don't
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: want him that badly, and if he's got a better offer,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: go run. I saw this coming for a year. You know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: it's not the type of long term contract that the
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: current general manager is interested in. And if you go
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: a little further back, when the Mets were looking for
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: a GM, right this was before the David Stearns run,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: there were a lot of people turning down having a conversation.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: So I think part of that is you got to
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: tell a GM like, hey, you're going to get some
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: power here to be able to make decisions, and I
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: want you to challenge me and say no, I don't
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: want you to fall in love with a player based
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: on the marketing. I'll also make it clear I freaking
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: love Pete. He's a legend here, you know, at a
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: young age, really in New York. He had an awesome postseason.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: He had the biggest moment of the year for the Mets.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: But David Stearns is going to act in his way,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: practice likematically, based on what his past processes was. That's
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: just what's happening here. So if there's a better offer,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: go grab it and beat the crap out of your
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: old team and show them what they were missing. And also,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: if there's a better offer with opt outs, go hit
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: fifty homers and go back to the market.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen, what you said is all right, And
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: this is not a David Sterns type player. And Pete
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is just stuck in a bad spot right now. It
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: just sucks for feet because he's a good guy, the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: fans love him, He's had a great career as a Met.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: He wants clearly to go back.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: To the Mets, but sometimes it takes two.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: As we've said a million times, with free agency, it
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: just sucks from the Mets that they don't really they
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: just really don't want him that badly, because again, if
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: they want him that badly, this would be done. Steve
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Cohen has shown the propensity. When he wants a guy,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: he goes and gets him. He goes out he wanted Remember,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they wanted erlin Or, they want to chers Boom boom boom.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: They wanted Lindor. They won't trade it for him, right.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: They wanted Soto, they went and got them. They want
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: him Anaya back. It's done right, So don't give me
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: about contract hulla balloo and this and that. It's just
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: all hearsays so that it makes a Pete sign somewhere else.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Eve going because I tried the best I could and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: we moved on.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yep, there you go, which you could do after he signs.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That's why. But the thing is, the fan fest pops
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: up and you're an owner and you're used to saying
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: what you want. So I love the transparency, So I'm
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: not gonna hate on that part. But it just seems
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: like it's a divorce. It's starting to get a little
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: bit messy. But we'll see if they come swooping through
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: they're not going to change their offer. I'm telling you that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: So if he does go back to them, it's because
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: he didn't get something else that he liked at that level. Anyway,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: real quick, we can show this tweet from twins Fest.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I think it's called Carlos Correa was addressing the offseason.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: He said, we're in a spot right now where we
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: cannot invest, and it is what it is. You got
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to live with that, and you've got to go out
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and play with the players that you have. I mean,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: it was a pretty cookie cutter line. I think the
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: one part that you get out of it is, yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: he's pretty aware of what's going on behind the scenes.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: The team is in a freeze right now. They're in
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: a pattern where they can't do anything and crats. If
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I had to guess Krey, it probably feels crappy because
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: when he signed, they were like, you're going to be
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: one piece. We're going to keep adding to this. They
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: were supposed to be able to spend thirty plus mil
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: even from that point forward on their payroll, and they
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: actually had to go backwards. So by a few years later,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you would have thought maybe this team would have been
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: in the one seventy five million range for payroll and
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: instead they're I think a strict one twenty five something
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: like that, and they're going to get sold, hopefully by
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: opening day. But that's just the way the sale process works.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I was hating on it in the past, I'm not
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: hating on it now because it's just a fact the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: new ownership group wants to be able to spend the
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: money their way, and also this is how the franchise
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: gets evaluation number.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I feel I feel like this organization vary. They communicate
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: really well to the players that I know that have
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: played there recently. With this front office, the way that
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Korea said it, it felt like it was something that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: was told to him because originally he was told, hey,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I'll sign this two hundred plus million dollar contract, but
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: then you're going to continue to invest. And they've invested
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: like nine point two million in new players since then.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: So I feel like somebody came to him and told him, look,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: we cannot and he said this, and he's moving.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: On bet MGM futures. Let's look at win totals. Let's
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: cover the Chicago Cubs now at eighty six and a
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: half games, they get themselves a little Ryan Presley action
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: for the ninth inning. Kyle Tucker, of course, was the
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: massive addition for them. Some smaller pieces and additions as well,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Matt Boyd for a little more to the starting rotation.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Krats first because he's probably
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: less biased on this one. But you got over under
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: on the eighty six and a half for the Cubs
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Under under.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: It is so it is so close. Eighty six is
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: such a great number. Did they improve by Did they
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: improve by three games? Yeah? I mean you can't. You
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: can't not say, like, they definitely improved, but three more games.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: I still think they have some weakness in their bullpen.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think their lineup is like devastating. You had
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Tucker in any lineup and it becomes an upgrade. I
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: just still think it's an under. I still don't think
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: they win the division.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh, one sixty two the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: first team ever? No, I'm just kidding. I think they're
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: around eighty five win team all right now. I think
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: they're still around an eighty five win team, which is
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: under eighty six and a half. So I'm gonna say under.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I'll go eighty seven eighty eight is so I'll take
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the over on this one on a slight.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: So they're going to make the playoffs. You're putting them
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs? Do they win in the playoffs?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I'mon Backs won how many eighty nine last year and
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: they didn't make the playoffs. I mean that's in that division.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: They probably win the division.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is will there be a year where
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: they're better than the Brewers? To me, it's a two
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: team race with those two Cardinals taking a step back.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Pirates are snoozing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: What the Reds I think, and I think they're third.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I think they're third behind the Reds and the Brewers.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna take a slight over. I'll probably I
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: didn't do my whole predictions, but I'll probably end up
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: dinging the Brewers and then paying for it as usual.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: But you know, it's just keep doing the same thing
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: over and over again. But I'm not betting on this one.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not touching this one. All right, let's shover on
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: what they're working with here with the bigger prize pools
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and more players involved with New Jersey and Michigan kind
• 36:01
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• 36:05
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• 36:08
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• 36:11
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• 36:14
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• 36:16
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• 36:19
  Speaker 3: have a gambling problem or concern, there's the number one
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: eight hundred CAMPLI. Speaking of things that were taken down
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: on social media, Brandon McCarthy tweeted something this weekend and
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: when I saw it on my notifications, I clicked it
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: and it said this post has been deleted. He tweeted
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: something along the lines of thank goodness for the salary
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: cap in the NFL so that we have all that parody,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: and how he wants MLB to have a salary cap
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: so that they can get all that all that parody
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: that we see with the Kansas City Chiefs just over
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and over again and even the Eagles, who have been
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: pretty damn good over the past whatever amount of years. Right,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I just want re fan base
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to get a chance, you know, in the Super Bowl
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and in the World Series, and so we should do
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: as a sport what the NFL does, right, guys.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: No, somebody went at me. Somebody went at me because
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I tweeted the exact same thing. I didn't take it down.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure why Brandon McCarthy took it down, but like, no,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: we don't like it is not that is not what
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: enables parody. It's the teams I want to go out
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: to win, and I mean having Patrick Mahomes pretty pretty
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: good idea too.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I think I just found out why. I think he's
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: currently a special assistant to the GM of the Rangers.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: You can't you can't put there if you were for
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a team. Sorry, brand up your spot.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I saw that one needs to be.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He used to be very active on social media. He's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: actually calmed it down a lot, and probably for the best.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I played with Brandon. Uh, there was.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: This case.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I agree with him because, Yeah, the Chiefs are in
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, what five the last six years, going
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: for winning three in a row. The Eagles were there
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: two years ago, they're back again, and crowds. I'll say this.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I don't say this often, but I'm actually rooting for
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: your squad.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: In two weeks.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see I'd like to see Sirianni kind
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: of shove it up the Eagles fans, you know what,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: because they were calling for him kind of to be
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: fired after last year. And he's back in the Super
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Bowl with Jalen Hurts and Saquon and that whole crew,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and you know what would be cool. As they're celebrating
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: AJ Brown, he pulls out a book.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: You know what the book should be.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I got an idea. He should pull out this book
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and be reading it on the sideline so that everybody
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: gets an idea.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yep, that's how the women.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, wait on, you spot laid that
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: that's the solution. You at least would like to point
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: to something and be like, see, that's the solution. Right,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: this is the dream right here. This league's getting all
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: the parody, all the different super Bowl combinations, and it's like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: uh now, all right, let's slap crats hats. What are
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: we rocking today?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, minor league seeds are starting too. So Wisconsin
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: timber Rattlers. This is the one they sent me. It's
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: their news, their new logo. I think they wear it
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: on like Thursdays. And Sundays or something. Pretty legit group
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of hats that they got. I never played there, but
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: they sent it to me, and.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That's all that matters. You send a hat to Krats,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: he's probably gonna wear it. Hey to go over some
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: of what the did you?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I played there? I played against him. They had some
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: guy named David Areas. I don't know. He turned into
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: some other guy named David Ortiz. Copy also also got
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: mono nucleosis there. So don't drink the water.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Kids from mono.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think that you get water. I don't think
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I tell you got the motto, but water fountain.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Out of the water fountain, the water fountain. It was
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a water founain. Back we had water fountains.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Don't put your lips in the water fountain.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: That's my roommate in My roommate ended up getting we kissed,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: so I don't know how.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: He got it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: You ever share a water
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Bottle, probably somewhere a long yea and those long bucks
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: will do it.