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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, December fifth. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host, Tom Moore. The Big Ten Championship game and
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- 0:23Speaker 1: so this is a little bit of a sign of
- 0:24Speaker 1: the time show because earlier this week on Wednesday, was
- 0:28Speaker 1: National Signing Day. Now, in previous years that would have
- 0:32Speaker 1: been a huge story. We would have been talking about
- 0:34Speaker 1: four weeks and weeks on end. We haven't mentioned it
- 0:38Speaker 1: yet on this show. Really, I don't think all week
- 0:40Speaker 1: because this is a good indication of how screwed up
- 0:43Speaker 1: the current calendar is in college football. The high state
- 0:47Speaker 1: coaching staff, they got some other stuff to do this
- 0:49Speaker 1: week preparing for the Big Ten Championship game against Indiana
- 0:53Speaker 1: at number one versus Number two that's coming up on Saturday.
- 0:56Speaker 1: We've had some other stuff to talk about as well.
- 0:58Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a microcosm of what's going
- 1:00Speaker 1: on in college football right now. But I want to
- 1:03Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a bonus show here
- 1:05Speaker 1: looking at Caden get Part. He is a prospect four
- 1:09Speaker 1: star safety out of ol In Tangi High School just
- 1:11Speaker 1: north of Columbus. He flipped from Clemson to Ohio State
- 1:16Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I if you sign with the Buckeyes, give
- 1:20Speaker 1: them another really, really impactful potential player on the defensive
- 1:24Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I just want to give
- 1:26Speaker 1: you a quick run through his story, his bio, what
- 1:30Speaker 1: he could mean for Ohio State. You can find much
- 1:33Speaker 1: more coverage of early signing Day in the Skull Session
- 1:37Speaker 1: Recruiting podcast feed. Mark and Juck and Tony. They kind
- 1:42Speaker 1: of do a little bit of everything in that feed,
- 1:44Speaker 1: so you can get a keep up with your recruiting
- 1:47Speaker 1: news there. But I'm want to give you a little
- 1:49Speaker 1: bit of an update here on Caden Getpart.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the Skull Session Recruiting podcast, brought
- 2:00Speaker 2: to you by bucke Huddle dot Com. I am Mark Givler,
- 2:03Speaker 2: I've got Chuck Maletty with me. It's a signing Day episode.
- 2:06Speaker 2: It's a special signing episode. It's a signing day flip episode.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Ohio State has flipped four star safety Caden Geppart, a
- 2:16Speaker 2: big time prospect out of old in Tangi High School
- 2:19Speaker 2: in suburban Columbus, longtime Clemson commit. This has been kind
- 2:25Speaker 2: of the smoke behind the scenes for maybe the last
- 2:29Speaker 2: week or two. Cayden himself was pretty quiet about things,
- 2:34Speaker 2: but made it official today and has signed with the Buckeyes.
- 2:38Speaker 2: So the Buckey's out of late four star safety to
- 2:40Speaker 2: the class. Juck your thoughts.
- 2:44Speaker 3: I love it. I was. I was so upset when
- 2:49Speaker 3: he ended up committing to Clemson. I was irritated, and
- 2:53Speaker 3: it felt like Ohio State didn't get in on him
- 2:56Speaker 3: early enough, serious enough, and he's just one of my
- 2:59Speaker 3: favorite players in the state in this class, and it
- 3:03Speaker 3: just was like, man, you let this kid go to
- 3:06Speaker 3: Dabbo And it was just really grinded my gears. But
- 3:09Speaker 3: then it wasn't long after the Buckeys got the commitment
- 3:12Speaker 3: of Blaine Bradford, and then I was like, Okay, if
- 3:14Speaker 3: you're gonna lose one out of state that I love
- 3:16Speaker 3: and you bring in one to replace him, who's Blaine Bradford.
- 3:20Speaker 3: I'm gonna be okay with it. So then it was like,
- 3:22Speaker 3: all right, cool, We're good to go. And then circling
- 3:25Speaker 3: back now that things have changed, that the transfer portal
- 3:30Speaker 3: ruling came down and Ryan Day wants to make sure
- 3:32Speaker 3: this class is flush. Being able to double back and
- 3:36Speaker 3: bring him back in the class to me fantastic addition.
- 3:39Speaker 3: I love it, and I love him as a prospect.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a really interesting player. I saw him his
- 3:48Speaker 2: sophomore year in a playoff game against Springfield, and he
- 3:53Speaker 2: didn't have main recruiting profiles at the time. I didn't
- 3:56Speaker 2: know who he was. I was there to watch Springfield
- 3:58Speaker 2: because it was close to my house, so I think
- 4:00Speaker 2: it was out and Upper Arlington it was. It was
- 4:01Speaker 2: out west west side Columbus, And I'm like, oh, this
- 4:05Speaker 2: will be this will shave off thirty minutes of a
- 4:07Speaker 2: drive Springfield for me. And sure enough, if you'd have
- 4:11Speaker 2: told me he had thirty tackles that night, I would
- 4:16Speaker 2: have believed you. Like, that's how good he was. He
- 4:18Speaker 2: was all over the place, all over the field. He's
- 4:22Speaker 2: just a tackling machine. And so when they when they ultimately,
- 4:28Speaker 2: as we run a little bit of video here, when
- 4:31Speaker 2: they ultimately offered him later than some of the other
- 4:36Speaker 2: big time programs. I was like, oh boy, this could
- 4:38Speaker 2: be interesting. And sure enough, he goes to Clemson and
- 4:40Speaker 2: then yeah, like you said, you know, they got Bradford
- 4:43Speaker 2: and there wasn't much buzz there around him in terms
- 4:46Speaker 2: of him, you know, not being comfortable with his Clemson commitment.
- 4:50Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, I guess that's just not
- 4:51Speaker 2: gonna happen. Disappointing, but here they go and a great
- 4:55Speaker 2: senior year to follow up his great sophomore and junior seasons.
- 4:59Speaker 2: But he's a hitter, and like I wonder, like he
- 5:01Speaker 2: could be an elite strong safety, but I wonder if
- 5:03Speaker 2: he doesn't turn into like just a dynamic like linebacker
- 5:08Speaker 2: that can run and just the way he hits. I
- 5:10Speaker 2: think this could be that extra linebacker and his class
- 5:13Speaker 2: people were talking about, because I think the kid from
- 5:15Speaker 2: Georgia that everyone's talking about is gonna play edge. So
- 5:19Speaker 2: this could be an This could be a strong safety pickup,
- 5:21Speaker 2: it could be a linebacker pickup. But they just got
- 5:23Speaker 2: a lot better on defense in this class in my opinion.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Braxton, remembered at six five, two hundred, is
- 5:29Speaker 3: like your prototypical edge and with that speed, I mean,
- 5:32Speaker 3: he would be fantastic at it. But Gebhart and I
- 5:36Speaker 3: remember talking to you earlier on this year, and I
- 5:39Speaker 3: think I talked to probably two other people who went
- 5:41Speaker 3: out to watch cj sona who for those of you
- 5:44Speaker 3: watch and here CJ Son at number forty five and
- 5:48Speaker 3: Gebhart steals the show every time. He's just like an
- 5:51Speaker 3: absolute machine. A kid who's logged over four hundred tackles
- 5:56Speaker 3: in his high school career, which is just absolutely insane.
- 5:59Speaker 3: For the time he was a freshman, he had one
- 6:01Speaker 3: hundred tackles as a true freshman. True freshman as a
- 6:04Speaker 3: freshman in high school. You know knows for the ball
- 6:08Speaker 3: is what you would use for a guy like this.
- 6:10Speaker 3: He's just got open field tackling. He's as sure as
- 6:14Speaker 3: they come. He is really quick in small space. Is
- 6:17Speaker 3: he triggers really fast. I mean, I just love watching him.
- 6:20Speaker 3: They put him on offense and you can really see
- 6:22Speaker 3: the explosion when he's on offense. He's the real deal man.
- 6:25Speaker 3: He's one of these underrated kids that I think absolutely
- 6:29Speaker 3: is gonna make a difference at some point in his
- 6:31Speaker 3: career at Ohio State. I don't think he's gonna be
- 6:33Speaker 3: a guy who's an early starter, And I kind of
- 6:35Speaker 3: agree with you, like he might be better suited for
- 6:37Speaker 3: linebacker when he gets a little bigger. But a kid
- 6:40Speaker 3: who is a special teams hawk immediately and a guy
- 6:44Speaker 3: that we hear early on the coaching staff really loves
- 6:48Speaker 3: this guy, like it's that kind of kid.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Yeah, he plays so fast, and part of it obviously
- 6:56Speaker 2: is his athleticism and his quickness, but the other part
- 6:58Speaker 2: of it is his instinct and his ability to kind
- 7:01Speaker 2: of diagnose very quickly. And again, I just I go
- 7:07Speaker 2: to games. I've watched him probably four or five times
- 7:09Speaker 2: over the years in game settings, and it's just every
- 7:13Speaker 2: play is in on it, every single play. It's it's
- 7:16Speaker 2: really really unbelievable how much this kid finds the football
- 7:20Speaker 2: and there even can return and kicks there. But he's
- 7:23Speaker 2: so fast, and like fifteen years ago, I would have
- 7:26Speaker 2: never in a million year said linebacker. He's athletic enough
- 7:29Speaker 2: to play strong safety. But like, given what the else
- 7:32Speaker 2: they have in the class, how their defense is built now,
- 7:34Speaker 2: especially with Matt Patricia, I just look at him and
- 7:38Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he could just be a nightmare of
- 7:41Speaker 2: like a what would be like a traditional will linebacker
- 7:45Speaker 2: who can just kind of go all. He can blitz,
- 7:47Speaker 2: he can cover tight ends, he can tackle in space,
- 7:51Speaker 2: he can cover, I mean, just everything you want in
- 7:54Speaker 2: the defensive player. That's what this kid is. Like I said,
- 7:58Speaker 2: he was one of my favorite guys in the state
- 8:01Speaker 2: before he committed to Clemson. And so I'm actually, this
- 8:06Speaker 2: is a great move. You're you're not limited by eighty
- 8:09Speaker 2: five anymore, so to come back and peel back on
- 8:12Speaker 2: an Ohio kid probably one of the best four or
- 8:16Speaker 2: five Ohio kids this year. In my opinion, I think
- 8:19Speaker 2: he's a top five kid in Ohio this class. Like
- 8:23Speaker 2: I think this will this will not get the attention
- 8:26Speaker 2: it deserves. In my opinion, I just have kind of
- 8:29Speaker 2: a prediction here, but I think this should be getting
- 8:31Speaker 2: more attention than it probably will get.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree, And I think, you know, and
- 8:35Speaker 3: I'm right with you, top five, top five kid in
- 8:38Speaker 3: the state in this class. And you know, if we're
- 8:40Speaker 3: just talking like fun, this dude is fun, is fun
- 8:44Speaker 3: to watch play football, and you know, to your point,
- 8:48Speaker 3: you're not limited by the eighty five anymore. And for
- 8:52Speaker 3: those who haven't followed quite everything what we're talking about
- 8:56Speaker 3: here with the you know, obviously everybody knows that the
- 8:58Speaker 3: limit has going up. You can go up to one
- 9:01Speaker 3: oh five, and Ryan Day was in the crew. We're
- 9:05Speaker 3: wanting to stick around ninety, but that was before the
- 9:09Speaker 3: ruling came down that there will no longer be a
- 9:11Speaker 3: spring transfer portal. So in an effort to cover themselves
- 9:16Speaker 3: for the transfer portal for late guys leaving late that
- 9:19Speaker 3: they can't replace in the spring portal, that's why we're
- 9:21Speaker 3: seeing some more additions. And with those more additions, you're
- 9:24Speaker 3: seeing more Ohio guys, and more flyers on some guys
- 9:28Speaker 3: and some more developmental guys, which I love. And I
- 9:31Speaker 3: think that you know, using those extra spots on Ohio
- 9:35Speaker 3: guys that you trust are probably going to stay in
- 9:37Speaker 3: the program a little longer, be a little more comfortable
- 9:40Speaker 3: with the longer term trajectory. I think it's a great move.
- 9:43Speaker 3: I think it's smart. I think they've really done a
- 9:45Speaker 3: great job with these late ads. And I think geb
- 9:48Speaker 3: Hart is one that you know, wasn't on my radar
- 9:50Speaker 3: at all to potentially get back in this class, So
- 9:53Speaker 3: being able to get him back in the fold, it's fantastic,
- 9:57Speaker 3: And like I said, this is a guy that everybody
- 9:59Speaker 3: around the building is going to like, We're gonna hear
- 10:00Speaker 3: about this dude for years. It's gonna be like Peyton Pierce,
- 10:04Speaker 3: you know, like one of those guys that everybody talks about,
- 10:07Speaker 3: does everything right, knows everybody else's position, like it's just
- 10:11Speaker 3: a solid rock star from day one. And I really
- 10:15Speaker 3: believe that this kid is definitely not going to get
- 10:18Speaker 3: the buzz that he deserves, same as you, but it'll
- 10:21Speaker 3: be there at some point. It'll be there at some point.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, in terms of path to the field,
- 10:27Speaker 2: I think the first thing I gotta figure out is like, Okay,
- 10:29Speaker 2: where exactly are we fitting you into the defense? And
- 10:34Speaker 2: then once that happens, we'll see. But it's not so
- 10:37Speaker 2: much about his ability for me as much as it
- 10:41Speaker 2: is this is a loaded So if he's a linebacker,
- 10:45Speaker 2: that's a loaded linebacker room right now. You're not coming
- 10:48Speaker 2: in as a true freshman there. You may get to
- 10:50Speaker 2: play in some type of mop up duty or we're
- 10:53Speaker 2: obviously on special teams, but linebackers kind of set for
- 10:57Speaker 2: next year at this point between Pierce and Patty John
- 11:03Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have you know, T. J. Alford
- 11:04Speaker 2: in there, and I mean we can go on there.
- 11:07Speaker 2: They've got four or five guys coming back or that
- 11:09Speaker 2: they hope are coming back that that are really gonna
- 11:12Speaker 2: be good next year. And then you know, safety is
- 11:14Speaker 2: gonna be interesting as well with what they've got returning there. Obviously,
- 11:18Speaker 2: you know, we'll see if they go portal there, we'll
- 11:21Speaker 2: see what Malie Hartford's kind of status is. At that point,
- 11:27Speaker 2: I think we can safely assume kle Downs is not returning.
- 11:30Speaker 2: But you know, you've got plane back there, so there's
- 11:32Speaker 2: gonna be there's gonna be some tough It's gonna be
- 11:36Speaker 2: some tough sledding. Because here's ultimately what this will be
- 11:38Speaker 2: kind of a common theme for me with this recruiting class.
- 11:41Speaker 2: It's not gonna be so much about the talent or
- 11:44Speaker 2: levels of the recruits in this class as it is
- 11:47Speaker 2: Ohio State. This twenty sixth class is following the best
- 11:53Speaker 2: freshman class at Ohio State in a very long time.
- 11:57Speaker 2: And it's not like an on paper thing. It's a
- 11:59Speaker 2: reaction because we've watched it play out this year. We've
- 12:02Speaker 2: watched a dozen true freshmen this year like make an
- 12:04Speaker 2: impact on this on a team that could win a
- 12:06Speaker 2: national championship. So when you have a freshman class that good,
- 12:11Speaker 2: the one behind it, a lot of those guys aren't
- 12:14Speaker 2: gonna play like we've seen bo Jackson play, and like
- 12:18Speaker 2: we or even like we've seen like a like a
- 12:22Speaker 2: you know in Isaiah Wester or a Zion Grady play
- 12:24Speaker 2: necessarily just because you've got so many guys who are
- 12:28Speaker 2: gonna be sophomores next year, or even some red shirt
- 12:30Speaker 2: freshmen who didn't get to play as much this year
- 12:32Speaker 2: just because of you know, they you know, there's another
- 12:34Speaker 2: guy at their position in their own class, you know,
- 12:37Speaker 2: And so it's gonna be hard. I think for a
- 12:38Speaker 2: lot of these guys. There will be a couple that
- 12:40Speaker 2: I think break through, but I think it'snna be hard
- 12:42Speaker 2: for a lot of these guys to carve out roles
- 12:45Speaker 2: to the extent we've seen the freshman class this year
- 12:47Speaker 2: carve out roles.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great point. But then you know,
- 12:52Speaker 3: on the back end, on the other side of it,
- 12:54Speaker 3: you might have a lot of guys who end up
- 12:56Speaker 3: leaving a little earlier too, because you see guys who
- 13:00Speaker 3: know when they start playing early, even if they're not
- 13:02Speaker 3: the highest draft grade. Sometimes they'll go in because they've
- 13:04Speaker 3: just had you know, they've they've done it, and it
- 13:06Speaker 3: feels like time for the next step as well. But
- 13:09Speaker 3: I think you make a good point there that you know,
- 13:11Speaker 3: we we have seen a whole lot of guys in
- 13:13Speaker 3: this twenty twenty five class, which yeah, best since twenty one.
- 13:16Speaker 3: These guys, you know, tons of hits in this class,
- 13:20Speaker 3: just tons of hits, and there's more coming that haven't
- 13:22Speaker 3: really hit the field in a in a meaningful way yet.
- 13:25Speaker 3: I think, you know, to safety for him, de Lane,
- 13:27Speaker 3: I think is definitely gonna be one and I can't
- 13:30Speaker 3: wait to see him next year. But yeah, Malie Hartford
- 13:34Speaker 3: so injured, you know, so you know, not going to
- 13:36Speaker 3: be able to play here in this postseason. If you
- 13:39Speaker 3: know they they were going, you know him and c J.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Hicks with the red shirt, he would have been able
- 13:42Speaker 3: to play, but he's injured, so we're not going to
- 13:45Speaker 3: get to see anything from him. And then that's a
- 13:46Speaker 3: big mystery when we look at the room. You know,
- 13:50Speaker 3: you got Leroy Roker and Deshaun Stewart and Cody Hadad
- 13:55Speaker 3: as the younger guys, and then obviously Blaine and Simeon
- 13:58Speaker 3: Caldwell coming in as well, who you know, another guy
- 14:02Speaker 3: we're not sure body wise what happens there and where
- 14:05Speaker 3: he ultimately ends up. But with Gebhart here, it's just
- 14:08Speaker 3: another versatile piece of the puzzle. And you got a
- 14:12Speaker 3: lot of options. And I love options, especially when they're
- 14:15Speaker 3: really talented, hardworking, production machine options, and that's what they
- 14:20Speaker 3: got here with Geb part a production machine.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's just wherever you put him, he's
- 14:26Speaker 2: going to make plays. And that's I think, you know,
- 14:29Speaker 2: and we'll see like what Matt Patricia does like long term,
- 14:32Speaker 2: you know, is he on a two or three year
- 14:34Speaker 2: plan at Ohio State? Is he trying to get back
- 14:36Speaker 2: to the NFL? Does he love it so much in
- 14:38Speaker 2: college now that this is all he wants to does
- 14:40Speaker 2: he want to be a head coach again? There's a
- 14:42Speaker 2: lot of things we got to figure out long term
- 14:44Speaker 2: that you know, we won't get into him this episode,
- 14:47Speaker 2: but like for a defense that has now kind of
- 14:53Speaker 2: embraced the idea of like interchangeable parts and guys being
- 14:58Speaker 2: able to playmultiple positions and not just kind of pigeonholing
- 15:02Speaker 2: guys into one role or one spot. You probably can't
- 15:05Speaker 2: have too many Caden geb Hearts. If that's your new
- 15:09Speaker 2: defensive philosophy is to kind of move guys around and
- 15:13Speaker 2: have them no matter what position they play, have them
- 15:15Speaker 2: be able to be versatile and do different things.
- 15:18Speaker 3: I love it. From a recruiting standpoint, you can just
- 15:21Speaker 3: get great football players. You don't need to be so
- 15:23Speaker 3: worried about the body type and where he fits. And
- 15:26Speaker 3: I think that this is really the difference we're seeing
- 15:29Speaker 3: with Patricia's and a lot of defensive coordinators talk about,
- 15:32Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to take the guys and put
- 15:34Speaker 3: them in the position that best makes them successful or
- 15:36Speaker 3: where they can succeed the most. It's hard to do.
- 15:39Speaker 3: It's really hard to do. They all want to do it.
- 15:41Speaker 3: He actually gets it done, and he does it so seamlessly,
- 15:44Speaker 3: and they seem to pick it up so easily. That
- 15:48Speaker 3: makes it fun, man, makes it real fun.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Come signing day, yep, So big pickup for Ohio State
- 15:54Speaker 2: on signing day, flipping four star safety Caden geb Heart
- 15:57Speaker 2: from Clemson. Buckeyes continue to roll here down the stretch.
- 16:00Speaker 2: They've had a great, great few weeks on the recruiting trail.
- 16:03Speaker 2: This is another big, big win for them. We are
- 16:07Speaker 2: going to be rolling out recruiting capsules. We're gonna do
- 16:09Speaker 2: it a little differently this year. In the past, I've
- 16:11Speaker 2: rolled like all twenty some out on signing Day. We're
- 16:13Speaker 2: not gonna do that this year because signing day got
- 16:15Speaker 2: moved up two weeks. So we're gonna have a little
- 16:17Speaker 2: bit of gap between the big time championship game at
- 16:19Speaker 2: Ohio State's playing Saturday night if you haven't heard about
- 16:21Speaker 2: that yet, and the playoffs starting, So we're gonna kind
- 16:25Speaker 2: of stagger our capsules out over the next two weeks,
- 16:29Speaker 2: talk about a few players a day, what Ohio State's getting,
- 16:32Speaker 2: what their path to the field might be, recapping the recruitment,
- 16:35Speaker 2: all that good stuff. So keep it locked here at
- 16:38Speaker 2: buckey Hull dot com and YouTube dot com slash bucke
- 16:41Speaker 2: Huddle as we run down Ohio State's twenty twenty six
- 16:44Speaker 2: recruiting class. But thank you everyone for watching and listening,
- 16:46Speaker 2: and we'll be back right right. We'll be right back,
- 16:49Speaker 2: trust me, We'll be right back soon with another one.