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The Most Corrupt Supreme Court in U.S. History — Who's Paying It Off, And What It's Costing Us · Phil and Ted's Sexy Boomer Show

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  Welcome
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  to
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  Phil
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  and
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  Ted's
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  Sexy
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  Boomer
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  Ted
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  Bonnitt.
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  I'm
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  Phil
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  Proctor
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  and
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  I
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  just
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  flew
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  in
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  from
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  the
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  D.C.
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  area
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  yesterday.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  can.
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  I
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  can
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  smell
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  it.
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  Yeah,
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  no,
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  that's
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  because
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  I'm
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  feeling
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  a
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  little
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  jet
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  fuelish.
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  I
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  just
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  thought
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  I
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  got
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  a
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  whiff
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  of
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  corruption.
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  A
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  whiff
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  of
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  corruption?
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  Oh,
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  yes.
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  Yeah,
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  that's
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  his
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  latest
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  perfume.
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  Yeah,
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  it's
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  in
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  a
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  little
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  gold
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  bottle.
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  Right.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
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  at
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  least
• 0:25
  we
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  have
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  the
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  three
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  branches
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  of
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  government
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  checks
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  and
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  balances
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  to
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  reel
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  this
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  all
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  in.
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  The
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  only
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  checks
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  and
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  balances
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  I
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  are
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  the
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  bank
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  accounts
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  of
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  the
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  billionaires.
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  We're
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  going
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  to
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  ask,
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  is
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  today's
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  U.S.
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  supreme
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  Court
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  the
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  most
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  corrupt
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  in
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  U.S.
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  history?
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  Our
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  guest
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  thinks
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  so.
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  Lisa
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  Graves
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  is
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  the
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  author
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  of
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  the
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  national
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  best
• 0:43
  selling
• 0:44
  book
• 0:44
  Without
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  How
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  Chief
• 0:46
  Justice
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  Roberts
• 0:47
  and
• 0:47
  His
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  Accomplices
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  Rewrote
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  the
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  Constitution
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  and
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  Dismantled
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  Our
• 0:51
  Rights.
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  This
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  book
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  is
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  a
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  bombshell.
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  It's
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  so
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  well
• 0:55
  written,
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  it's
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  so
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  God
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  awful.
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  To
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  understand
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  the
• 0:59
  level
• 0:59
  of
• 0:59
  corruption.
• 1:00
  You
• 1:00
  read
• 1:00
  it
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  twice.
• 1:01
  I
• 1:01
  did.
• 1:02
  We're
• 1:02
  so
• 1:03
  fortunate
• 1:03
  to
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  have
• 1:03
  Lisa
• 1:04
  Graves
• 1:04
  with
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  us.
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  Hello,
• 1:05
  Lisa.
• 1:05
  Hello.
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  Hello.
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  It's
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  a
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  joy
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  to
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  be
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  with
• 1:07
  you,
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  Barry.
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  Oh,
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  thank
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  for
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  coming
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  on
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  the
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  show.
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  We
• 1:10
  appreciate
• 1:11
  it.
• 1:11
  Where
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  are
• 1:11
  you
• 1:11
  calling
• 1:11
  us
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  from?
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  I'm
• 1:13
  calling
• 1:13
  you
• 1:13
  from
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  Northern
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  Wisconsin,
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  on
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  the
• 1:15
  Wisconsin
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  side,
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  near
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  Duluth.
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  Oh,
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  that's
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  nice.
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  Oh,
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  summer
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  must
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  be
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  there
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  now.
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  It
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  must
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  be
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  nice.
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  Summer.
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  Summer
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  has
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  finally
• 1:21
  arrived.
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  We
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  have
• 1:22
  six
• 1:22
  months
• 1:22
  of
• 1:23
  winter
• 1:23
  up
• 1:24
  here
• 1:24
  and
• 1:24
  six
• 1:24
  months
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  of
• 1:25
  not
• 1:25
  winter.
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  Lisa,
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  you
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  really
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  did
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  work
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  as
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  an
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  insider
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  on
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  Capitol
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  Hill.
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  You're
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  one
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  of
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  the
• 1:30
  nation's
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  foremost
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  experts
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  in
• 1:32
  exposing
• 1:32
  how
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  special
• 1:33
  interests
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  are
• 1:34
  distorting
• 1:34
  public
• 1:35
  policy
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  and
• 1:35
  trying
• 1:36
  to
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  thwart
• 1:36
  the
• 1:37
  public's
• 1:37
  interest
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  in
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  a
• 1:38
  thriving
• 1:38
  and
• 1:38
  inclusive
• 1:39
  democracy,
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  as
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  you
• 1:40
  wrote,
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  and
• 1:40
  impede
• 1:41
  measures
• 1:41
  to
• 1:41
  protect
• 1:42
  our
• 1:42
  environment
• 1:43
  and
• 1:43
  mitigate
• 1:43
  climate
• 1:44
  change.
• 1:44
  Other
• 1:44
  than
• 1:45
  that.
• 1:45
  Yeah,
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  you
• 1:46
  just.
• 1:46
  Free
• 1:46
  as
• 1:46
  a
• 1:47
  bird.
• 1:47
  You
• 1:47
  are
• 1:47
  the
• 1:48
  founder
• 1:48
  and
• 1:48
  executive
• 1:49
  director
• 1:49
  of
• 1:49
  True
• 1:49
  North
• 1:50
  Research,
• 1:50
  a
• 1:50
  national
• 1:51
  investigative
• 1:51
  watchdog
• 1:52
  group
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  that
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  works
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  with
• 1:53
  journalists
• 1:53
  and
• 1:54
  other
• 1:54
  researchers
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  to
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  expose
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  the
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  dark
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  money
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  fueling
• 1:56
  regressive
• 1:57
  agendas
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  that
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  are
• 1:57
  targeting
• 1:58
  vital
• 1:58
  institutions
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  in
• 1:59
  our
• 1:59
  republic,
• 1:59
  like
• 2:00
  the
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  courts
• 2:00
  and
• 2:00
  our
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  public
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  schools.
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  Is
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  it
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  dark
• 2:02
  because
• 2:02
  it's
• 2:02
  soaked
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  in
• 2:03
  oil?
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  I've
• 2:04
  never
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  quite
• 2:05
  understood.
• 2:05
  Some
• 2:05
  of
• 2:05
  it
• 2:05
  is.
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  Some
• 2:06
  of
• 2:06
  it
• 2:06
  is.
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  That's
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  a
• 2:07
  great
• 2:07
  question.
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  The
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  dark
• 2:08
  money
• 2:08
  thing,
• 2:08
  We've
• 2:08
  been
• 2:08
  talking
• 2:08
  about
• 2:09
  that
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  as
• 2:09
  the
• 2:10
  greatest
• 2:10
  problem
• 2:10
  we're
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  facing.
• 2:11
  Citizens
• 2:12
  United,
• 2:12
  we're
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  gonna
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  talk
• 2:13
  about
• 2:13
  all
• 2:13
  of
• 2:13
  that.
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  We're
• 2:14
  ready
• 2:14
  to
• 2:14
  go
• 2:14
  with
• 2:14
  you,
• 2:15
  Lisa,
• 2:15
  to
• 2:15
  get
• 2:16
  as
• 2:16
  much
• 2:16
  as
• 2:16
  we
• 2:16
  can
• 2:17
  of
• 2:17
  your
• 2:17
  book
• 2:18
  out
• 2:18
  in
• 2:18
  one
• 2:18
  hour
• 2:18
  because
• 2:19
  it's
• 2:19
  public
• 2:19
  service.
• 2:20
  It's
• 2:20
  something
• 2:20
  that
• 2:20
  needs
• 2:20
  to
• 2:21
  be
• 2:21
  said.
• 2:21
  And
• 2:21
  again,
• 2:22
  your
• 2:22
  perspective
• 2:23
  is
• 2:23
  very
• 2:23
  important
• 2:24
  because
• 2:24
  you
• 2:25
  were
• 2:25
  chief
• 2:25
  counsel
• 2:25
  for
• 2:26
  nominations
• 2:26
  for
• 2:27
  Senator
• 2:27
  Patrick
• 2:27
  LEAHY
• 2:28
  in
• 2:28
  the
• 2:28
  U.S.
• 2:29
  senate
• 2:29
  Judiciary
• 2:30
  Committee.
• 2:30
  You
• 2:30
  were
• 2:31
  also
• 2:31
  a
• 2:31
  senior
• 2:31
  strategist
• 2:32
  for
• 2:32
  the
• 2:32
  ACLU
• 2:33
  on
• 2:33
  security
• 2:34
  and
• 2:34
  civil
• 2:34
  liberties.
• 2:35
  You've
• 2:35
  been
• 2:35
  asked
• 2:35
  and
• 2:36
  have
• 2:36
  given
• 2:36
  expert
• 2:37
  testimony
• 2:37
  before
• 2:37
  several
• 2:38
  committees
• 2:38
  in
• 2:38
  the
• 2:38
  U.S.
• 2:38
  senate
• 2:39
  and
• 2:39
  House
• 2:39
  of
• 2:39
  Reps.
• 2:40
  And
• 2:40
  you've
• 2:40
  helped
• 2:40
  shape
• 2:40
  the
• 2:40
  national
• 2:41
  debate
• 2:41
  about
• 2:41
  the
• 2:41
  culture
• 2:42
  of
• 2:42
  corruption
• 2:42
  on
• 2:42
  the
• 2:42
  U.S.
• 2:43
  supreme
• 2:43
  Court.
• 2:44
  You
• 2:44
  have
• 2:44
  an
• 2:45
  insider's
• 2:45
  perspective,
• 2:46
  and
• 2:46
  what
• 2:46
  you
• 2:46
  saw
• 2:47
  didn't
• 2:47
  make
• 2:47
  you
• 2:48
  happy
• 2:48
  to
• 2:48
  draw
• 2:49
  the
• 2:49
  picture.
• 2:49
  We
• 2:49
  have
• 2:49
  a
• 2:49
  conservative
• 2:50
  supermajority
• 2:51
  on
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  court,
• 2:51
  which
• 2:52
  is
• 2:52
  what
• 2:52
  has
• 2:52
  tipped
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  balances.
• 2:53
  I
• 2:54
  call
• 2:54
  it
• 2:54
  the
• 2:54
  extreme
• 2:55
  court.
• 2:56
  Right.
• 2:57
  Your
• 2:57
  book
• 2:57
  focuses
• 2:58
  on
• 2:58
  Chief
• 2:59
  Justice
• 2:59
  John
• 3:00
  Roberts,
• 3:00
  and
• 3:00
  that's
• 3:00
  who
• 3:01
  we're
• 3:01
  gonna
• 3:01
  speak
• 3:01
  about
• 3:01
  primarily
• 3:02
  today,
• 3:03
  because
• 3:03
  I
• 3:03
  don't
• 3:03
  think
• 3:04
  people
• 3:04
  realize
• 3:04
  that
• 3:04
  that
• 3:05
  face,
• 3:06
  nice
• 3:06
  smile
• 3:06
  that
• 3:07
  he
• 3:07
  has
• 3:07
  masks
• 3:08
  a
• 3:08
  much
• 3:08
  nefarious,
• 3:09
  if
• 3:09
  you
• 3:09
  will,
• 3:10
  background
• 3:10
  in
• 3:11
  his
• 3:11
  history.
• 3:11
  He's
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  nation's
• 3:12
  17th
• 3:13
  chief
• 3:13
  justice.
• 3:14
  Listen,
• 3:15
  I
• 3:15
  loved
• 3:15
  him
• 3:15
  when
• 3:16
  he
• 3:16
  did
• 3:16
  his
• 3:16
  television
• 3:17
  show,
• 3:18
  Mr.
• 3:19
  Roberts.
• 3:19
  No,
• 3:19
  I
• 3:20
  think
• 3:20
  you
• 3:20
  got
• 3:20
  that
• 3:20
  wrong.
• 3:20
  Oh,
• 3:21
  yeah,
• 3:21
  yeah.
• 3:22
  But
• 3:22
  being
• 3:22
  only
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  17th
• 3:23
  chief
• 3:24
  justice,
• 3:25
  his
• 3:25
  role
• 3:25
  is
• 3:25
  extremely
• 3:26
  consequential,
• 3:27
  historically.
• 3:27
  He's
• 3:28
  also
• 3:28
  the
• 3:28
  richest,
• 3:28
  by
• 3:29
  far,
• 3:29
  on
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  Supreme
• 3:30
  Court,
• 3:30
  with
• 3:30
  a
• 3:31
  net
• 3:31
  worth
• 3:31
  of
• 3:31
  over
• 3:31
  $25
• 3:32
  million.
• 3:32
  Because
• 3:33
  of
• 3:33
  his
• 3:33
  wife,
• 3:33
  though,
• 3:34
  right?
• 3:34
  Well,
• 3:34
  he
• 3:34
  was
• 3:35
  born
• 3:35
  with
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  silver
• 3:35
  spoon
• 3:35
  in
• 3:36
  his
• 3:36
  mout.
• 3:37
  Makes
• 3:37
  him,
• 3:38
  as
• 3:38
  you
• 3:38
  wrote,
• 3:38
  wealthier
• 3:39
  than
• 3:39
  99.9%
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  the
• 3:41
  US
• 3:41
  population.
• 3:42
  He
• 3:42
  was
• 3:42
  born,
• 3:42
  as
• 3:42
  you
• 3:43
  say,
• 3:43
  on
• 3:43
  third
• 3:44
  base,
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  son
• 3:44
  of
• 3:45
  a
• 3:45
  Bethlehem
• 3:45
  Steel
• 3:45
  executive
• 3:46
  with
• 3:46
  access
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  best
• 3:47
  private
• 3:47
  schools
• 3:48
  money
• 3:48
  could
• 3:48
  buy.
• 3:49
  But
• 3:49
  his
• 3:49
  wealth
• 3:49
  has
• 3:50
  surged
• 3:50
  since
• 3:50
  he
• 3:50
  was
• 3:51
  appointed
• 3:51
  to
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  Supreme
• 3:52
  Court
• 3:52
  because
• 3:52
  his
• 3:52
  wife,
• 3:52
  Jane,
• 3:53
  has
• 3:53
  made
• 3:53
  a
• 3:54
  fortune
• 3:54
  as
• 3:54
  a
• 3:54
  headhunter.
• 3:55
  She's
• 3:56
  been
• 3:56
  paid
• 3:56
  large
• 3:56
  commissions
• 3:57
  for
• 3:57
  placing
• 3:57
  elite
• 3:58
  lawyers
• 3:58
  at
• 3:58
  elite
• 3:59
  law
• 3:59
  firms
• 3:59
  that
• 3:59
  litigate
• 4:00
  before
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  Supreme
• 4:01
  Court
• 4:01
  and
• 4:01
  other
• 4:02
  courts.
• 4:02
  Not
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  conflict
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  interest
• 4:03
  there,
• 4:04
  eh?
• 4:04
  No.
• 4:06
  Yes.
• 4:06
  Gosh,
• 4:07
  Just
• 4:07
  let
• 4:07
  me
• 4:07
  begin
• 4:07
  by
• 4:08
  saying
• 4:08
  what
• 4:08
  an
• 4:08
  honor
• 4:08
  it
• 4:09
  is
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  be
• 4:09
  on
• 4:09
  your
• 4:09
  show
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  have
• 4:10
  this
• 4:10
  conversation
• 4:11
  with
• 4:12
  you
• 4:12
  and
• 4:12
  with
• 4:13
  your
• 4:13
  audience.
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  wrote
• 4:14
  this
• 4:14
  book
• 4:15
  because
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  was
• 4:16
  very
• 4:16
  concerned
• 4:17
  about
• 4:18
  how
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  court
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  operating.
• 4:19
  Not
• 4:20
  really
• 4:20
  like
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  court,
• 4:21
  but
• 4:21
  like
• 4:21
  an
• 4:21
  arm
• 4:22
  of
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  political
• 4:22
  party,
• 4:23
  like
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  weapon
• 4:24
  in
• 4:25
  a
• 4:25
  far
• 4:25
  right
• 4:26
  agenda,
• 4:26
  quite
• 4:26
  frankly.
• 4:27
  That's
• 4:27
  right.
• 4:28
  And
• 4:28
  how.
• 4:28
  John
• 4:29
  Roberts
• 4:29
  really
• 4:30
  was
• 4:30
  a
• 4:31
  Reagan
• 4:31
  revolutionary.
• 4:32
  He
• 4:32
  was
• 4:33
  back
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  Reagan
• 4:34
  era,
• 4:34
  and
• 4:34
  on
• 4:34
  the
• 4:35
  court.
• 4:35
  He
• 4:35
  is
• 4:35
  still
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  Reagan
• 4:36
  revolutionary.
• 4:37
  He
• 4:37
  is
• 4:37
  still
• 4:38
  advancing
• 4:38
  an
• 4:38
  extreme
• 4:39
  agenda.
• 4:39
  And
• 4:39
  in
• 4:39
  some
• 4:40
  instances,
• 4:41
  he
• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  using
• 4:41
  the
• 4:42
  courts
• 4:43
  to
• 4:43
  win
• 4:43
  battles
• 4:44
  that
• 4:44
  he
• 4:44
  lost
• 4:45
  when
• 4:45
  he
• 4:46
  was
• 4:46
  a
• 4:46
  lawyer
• 4:46
  for
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  Reagan
• 4:47
  and
• 4:48
  George
• 4:48
  Herbert
• 4:48
  Walker
• 4:49
  Bush
• 4:49
  administration.
• 4:49
  So
• 4:50
  he's
• 4:50
  someone
• 4:50
  who
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  think,
• 4:51
  really
• 4:52
  deceives
• 4:53
  the
• 4:53
  American
• 4:53
  people.
• 4:54
  In
• 4:54
  his
• 4:55
  confirmation
• 4:56
  hearings,
• 4:56
  when
• 4:56
  he
• 4:56
  was
• 4:56
  nominated
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  be
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  Chief
• 4:57
  justice,
• 4:58
  when
• 4:58
  he
• 4:59
  claimed
• 4:59
  that
• 4:59
  he
• 4:59
  was
• 4:59
  going
• 5:00
  to
• 5:00
  be
• 5:00
  merely
• 5:00
  an
• 5:00
  umpire
• 5:01
  calling
• 5:02
  balls
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  strikes,
• 5:03
  he
• 5:03
  wasn't
• 5:03
  chosen
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  be
• 5:04
  an
• 5:05
  umpire.
• 5:05
  He
• 5:06
  was
• 5:06
  chosen
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  be
• 5:06
  a
• 5:07
  player
• 5:07
  to
• 5:07
  move
• 5:07
  this
• 5:08
  ball
• 5:08
  down
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  field,
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  regress
• 5:10
  American
• 5:10
  law,
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  roll
• 5:12
  back
• 5:12
  our
• 5:12
  rights.
• 5:12
  And
• 5:13
  that's
• 5:13
  what
• 5:13
  he's
• 5:13
  done
• 5:14
  on
• 5:14
  the
• 5:14
  bench.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:14
  I
• 5:15
  can
• 5:15
  tell
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  a
• 5:15
  little
• 5:15
  about
• 5:15
  how
• 5:16
  I
• 5:16
  tried
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  stop
• 5:16
  him
• 5:17
  initially
• 5:18
  from
• 5:18
  getting
• 5:18
  a
• 5:18
  judgeship
• 5:19
  when
• 5:19
  he.
• 5:19
  Was
• 5:19
  announced
• 5:19
  as
• 5:20
  Supreme
• 5:20
  Court
• 5:20
  nominee.
• 5:21
  You
• 5:21
  wrote
• 5:21
  that
• 5:21
  you
• 5:22
  wept.
• 5:22
  Yes,
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  was
• 5:23
  very
• 5:23
  concerned.
• 5:25
  Concerned
• 5:25
  is
• 5:25
  the
• 5:26
  least
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  it,
• 5:26
  really.
• 5:27
  I
• 5:27
  had
• 5:27
  been
• 5:27
  certain
• 5:27
  that
• 5:28
  he
• 5:28
  was
• 5:28
  going
• 5:28
  to
• 5:28
  be
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  nominee
• 5:29
  if
• 5:30
  there
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  vac.
• 5:31
  If
• 5:31
  there
• 5:31
  were
• 5:31
  a
• 5:31
  vacancy
• 5:32
  for
• 5:32
  George
• 5:32
  W.
• 5:32
  Bush.
• 5:33
  That's
• 5:34
  why
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  asked
• 5:35
  my
• 5:35
  boss
• 5:35
  if
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  could
• 5:36
  ask
• 5:36
  Senator
• 5:37
  Reid,
• 5:37
  who
• 5:37
  was
• 5:37
  then
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  whip
• 5:38
  for
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  Democrats,
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  there
• 5:40
  not
• 5:41
  be
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  recorded
• 5:42
  up
• 5:42
  or
• 5:42
  down
• 5:43
  vote
• 5:43
  for
• 5:44
  John
• 5:44
  Roberts
• 5:44
  when
• 5:44
  he
• 5:45
  was
• 5:45
  nominated
• 5:45
  and
• 5:46
  confirmed
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  D.C.
• 5:47
  circuit,
• 5:48
  which
• 5:48
  is
• 5:48
  one
• 5:48
  of
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  appellate
• 5:49
  courts
• 5:50
  in
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  country.
• 5:51
  And
• 5:51
  so
• 5:51
  that's
• 5:51
  why
• 5:52
  John
• 5:52
  Roberts
• 5:52
  was
• 5:53
  confirmed
• 5:53
  by
• 5:54
  unanimous
• 5:54
  consent.
• 5:55
  It
• 5:55
  doesn't
• 5:55
  mean
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  he
• 5:56
  was
• 5:56
  unanimously
• 5:57
  approved
• 5:58
  to
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  D.C.
• 5:58
  circuit.
• 5:59
  It
• 5:59
  just
• 5:59
  meant
• 5:59
  that
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  was
• 6:00
  trying
• 6:00
  to
• 6:00
  preserve
• 6:00
  for
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  Democrats
• 6:02
  an
• 6:02
  opportunity
• 6:03
  to
• 6:03
  vote
• 6:03
  against
• 6:03
  him
• 6:04
  when
• 6:04
  he
• 6:04
  was
• 6:04
  elevated
• 6:05
  or
• 6:05
  promoted
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  Supreme
• 6:07
  Court,
• 6:07
  which
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  was
• 6:08
  certain
• 6:08
  that
• 6:08
  he
• 6:08
  was
• 6:09
  going
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  be
• 6:10
  George
• 6:10
  W.
• 6:10
  Bush's
• 6:11
  nominee
• 6:11
  for
• 6:11
  the
• 6:12
  Supreme
• 6:12
  Court.
• 6:12
  And
• 6:12
  he
• 6:12
  was.
• 6:13
  And
• 6:13
  so
• 6:13
  when
• 6:13
  he
• 6:14
  was
• 6:14
  confirmed,
• 6:14
  I.
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  wept.
• 6:16
  So
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  knew
• 6:17
  that
• 6:17
  he
• 6:17
  was
• 6:17
  a
• 6:17
  bad
• 6:17
  choice
• 6:18
  for
• 6:18
  America
• 6:19
  as
• 6:19
  far
• 6:19
  as
• 6:19
  the
• 6:20
  Republic
• 6:20
  is
• 6:20
  concerned.
• 6:21
  What
• 6:21
  were
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  things
• 6:22
  that
• 6:22
  he
• 6:22
  had
• 6:23
  done
• 6:23
  that
• 6:23
  made
• 6:23
  you
• 6:23
  so
• 6:24
  concerned
• 6:24
  about
• 6:24
  him?
• 6:25
  Well,
• 6:25
  I
• 6:26
  thought
• 6:26
  that
• 6:26
  John
• 6:26
  Roberts
• 6:26
  was
• 6:27
  really
• 6:27
  like
• 6:27
  Robert
• 6:27
  Bork
• 6:28
  without
• 6:28
  the
• 6:29
  goatee
• 6:29
  and
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  sort
• 6:30
  of
• 6:30
  villainous
• 6:32
  look
• 6:32
  about
• 6:32
  him
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  editorial
• 6:34
  cartoonist
• 6:34
  had
• 6:34
  really
• 6:35
  captured.
• 6:35
  Yeah,
• 6:36
  or
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  funny
• 6:36
  name.
• 6:37
  Yeah.
• 6:38
  Robert
• 6:38
  Bork
• 6:39
  was
• 6:39
  very
• 6:39
  loud
• 6:40
  about
• 6:40
  his
• 6:41
  regressive
• 6:41
  views.
• 6:42
  And
• 6:42
  John
• 6:42
  Roberts,
• 6:43
  in
• 6:43
  essence,
• 6:44
  learned
• 6:44
  from
• 6:45
  that
• 6:45
  and
• 6:45
  was
• 6:46
  quiet
• 6:46
  about
• 6:47
  his
• 6:47
  views.
• 6:48
  But
• 6:48
  he
• 6:49
  held
• 6:49
  and
• 6:49
  continues
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  hold
• 6:51
  very
• 6:51
  extreme
• 6:52
  views
• 6:52
  about
• 6:52
  the
• 6:53
  presidency,
• 6:54
  really
• 6:54
  aggrandizing
• 6:55
  presidential
• 6:55
  power
• 6:56
  and
• 6:56
  a
• 6:56
  very
• 6:57
  narrow
• 6:57
  view
• 6:57
  of
• 6:58
  civil
• 6:58
  rights
• 6:58
  and
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  rights
• 6:59
  under
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  Voting
• 7:00
  Rights
• 7:00
  Act.
• 7:01
  If
• 7:01
  you
• 7:01
  remember
• 7:02
  back
• 7:02
  then,
• 7:02
  maybe
• 7:03
  it
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  like
• 7:03
  1999,
• 7:04
  2000,
• 7:05
  there
• 7:06
  was
• 7:06
  this
• 7:06
  chant
• 7:06
  that
• 7:07
  began
• 7:07
  at
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  Federal
• 7:08
  Society
• 7:08
  event.
• 7:08
  The
• 7:08
  Federal
• 7:09
  Society
• 7:09
  is
• 7:09
  a
• 7:10
  group
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  was
• 7:10
  created
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  early
• 7:12
  1980s
• 7:12
  to
• 7:13
  create
• 7:13
  a
• 7:13
  pipeline
• 7:14
  for
• 7:14
  power
• 7:15
  for
• 7:15
  right
• 7:16
  wing
• 7:16
  lawyers
• 7:16
  to
• 7:17
  become
• 7:17
  judges
• 7:17
  and
• 7:18
  get
• 7:18
  other
• 7:18
  key
• 7:18
  posts.
• 7:19
  It
• 7:19
  was
• 7:20
  funded
• 7:20
  by
• 7:21
  a
• 7:21
  man
• 7:21
  who
• 7:21
  has
• 7:22
  faded
• 7:22
  in
• 7:22
  history,
• 7:23
  but
• 7:23
  who
• 7:23
  was
• 7:23
  Very
• 7:24
  famous
• 7:24
  for
• 7:24
  a
• 7:24
  while.
• 7:25
  Dick
• 7:25
  Scaife,
• 7:26
  he
• 7:26
  was
• 7:26
  an
• 7:26
  heir
• 7:27
  to
• 7:27
  the
• 7:27
  Mellon
• 7:27
  banking
• 7:28
  fortune.
• 7:29
  And
• 7:29
  Dick
• 7:29
  Scaife
• 7:30
  was
• 7:30
  sort
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  a
• 7:30
  demi
• 7:31
  billionaire
• 7:31
  back
• 7:32
  then.
• 7:32
  And
• 7:32
  he
• 7:33
  funded
• 7:33
  this
• 7:33
  group
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  really
• 7:35
  create
• 7:35
  this
• 7:36
  pipeline.
• 7:36
  And
• 7:36
  John
• 7:37
  Roberts
• 7:37
  is
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  beneficiary
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  that.
• 7:38
  So
• 7:39
  Fast
• 7:39
  forward
• 7:40
  to
• 7:40
  1999,
• 7:41
  2000,
• 7:42
  after
• 7:43
  Clarence
• 7:43
  Thomas
• 7:44
  had
• 7:44
  been
• 7:44
  confirmed
• 7:44
  to
• 7:44
  the
• 7:45
  Supreme
• 7:45
  Court
• 7:45
  along
• 7:45
  with
• 7:46
  David
• 7:46
  Souter.
• 7:46
  For
• 7:47
  a
• 7:47
  number
• 7:47
  of
• 7:47
  years
• 7:48
  there
• 7:48
  was
• 7:49
  this
• 7:49
  chant,
• 7:50
  no
• 7:50
  More
• 7:50
  Suitors.
• 7:51
  The
• 7:52
  right
• 7:52
  wing
• 7:52
  felt
• 7:52
  that
• 7:52
  they
• 7:53
  had
• 7:53
  wasted
• 7:53
  a
• 7:54
  seat
• 7:54
  on
• 7:54
  Souter
• 7:55
  because
• 7:55
  he
• 7:55
  was
• 7:55
  following
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  law,
• 7:57
  he
• 7:57
  was
• 7:57
  following
• 7:57
  legal
• 7:58
  precedents
• 7:58
  like
• 7:58
  Roe
• 7:59
  vs
• 7:59
  Wade
• 8:00
  and
• 8:00
  other
• 8:01
  precedents.
• 8:01
  And
• 8:02
  they
• 8:02
  didn't
• 8:02
  want
• 8:02
  any
• 8:03
  more
• 8:03
  suitors.
• 8:03
  Right.
• 8:03
  How
• 8:04
  dare,
• 8:04
  how
• 8:04
  dare
• 8:05
  a
• 8:05
  judge
• 8:05
  follow
• 8:05
  those
• 8:06
  precedents.
• 8:06
  So
• 8:06
  John
• 8:06
  Roberts,
• 8:07
  yeah.
• 8:07
  Is
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  beneficiary
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  the
• 8:09
  no
• 8:09
  More
• 8:09
  Suitors
• 8:10
  campaign.
• 8:10
  He
• 8:10
  and
• 8:10
  Sam
• 8:11
  Alito
• 8:12
  both.
• 8:12
  That
• 8:13
  chant
• 8:13
  was
• 8:13
  not,
• 8:14
  did
• 8:14
  not
• 8:15
  go
• 8:15
  for
• 8:15
  them.
• 8:15
  In
• 8:15
  fact,
• 8:16
  if
• 8:16
  you
• 8:17
  look
• 8:17
  at
• 8:17
  what
• 8:17
  happened
• 8:17
  that
• 8:18
  year
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  2005,
• 8:19
  what
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  see
• 8:20
  is
• 8:20
  John
• 8:21
  Roberts
• 8:21
  gets
• 8:22
  confirmed,
• 8:23
  Harriet
• 8:23
  Myers
• 8:24
  is
• 8:24
  nominated
• 8:24
  by
• 8:24
  George
• 8:25
  W.
• 8:25
  Bush
• 8:25
  to
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  Supreme
• 8:27
  Court.
• 8:27
  These
• 8:28
  howls
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  protest
• 8:29
  by
• 8:29
  none
• 8:29
  other
• 8:30
  than
• 8:30
  Robert
• 8:30
  Bork
• 8:31
  and
• 8:31
  others
• 8:32
  against
• 8:32
  her
• 8:33
  arose,
• 8:33
  you
• 8:34
  know,
• 8:34
  on
• 8:34
  this
• 8:34
  no
• 8:34
  More
• 8:35
  Suitors
• 8:35
  campaign,
• 8:36
  saying
• 8:36
  she
• 8:36
  wasn't
• 8:37
  doctrinary
• 8:37
  enough,
• 8:38
  she
• 8:38
  wasn't
• 8:39
  reliable
• 8:39
  enough,
• 8:40
  she
• 8:40
  wasn't
• 8:40
  going
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  be
• 8:40
  a
• 8:40
  sure
• 8:41
  vote.
• 8:42
  So
• 8:42
  after
• 8:42
  about
• 8:42
  three
• 8:42
  weeks
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  pressure,
• 8:43
  George
• 8:44
  W.
• 8:44
  Bush
• 8:44
  pulled
• 8:44
  down
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  nomination
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  his
• 8:46
  longtime
• 8:47
  counsel
• 8:48
  and
• 8:48
  they
• 8:48
  swapped
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  Sam
• 8:49
  Alito.
• 8:50
  And
• 8:50
  so
• 8:50
  Sam
• 8:50
  Alito
• 8:51
  and
• 8:51
  John
• 8:51
  Roberts
• 8:52
  were
• 8:52
  confirmed,
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  know,
• 8:53
  as
• 8:54
  part
• 8:54
  of
• 8:54
  this
• 8:54
  agenda
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  capture
• 8:55
  the
• 8:56
  court
• 8:56
  and
• 8:57
  not
• 8:57
  just
• 8:58
  like
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  capture
• 8:58
  with
• 8:58
  fair
• 8:59
  judges.
• 8:59
  Right,
• 8:59
  to
• 9:00
  capture
• 9:00
  with
• 9:00
  judges
• 9:01
  who
• 9:01
  are
• 9:01
  going
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  use
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  judicial
• 9:03
  power,
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  think,
• 9:04
  illegitimately,
• 9:05
  quite
• 9:05
  frankly,
• 9:06
  to
• 9:06
  roll
• 9:06
  back
• 9:07
  our
• 9:07
  rights
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  reverse
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  key
• 9:08
  precedents
• 9:08
  of
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  21st
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  20th
• 9:10
  century.
• 9:11
  We
• 9:11
  can
• 9:11
  look
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  retrospect,
• 9:12
  and
• 9:12
  it's
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  little
• 9:12
  sad
• 9:12
  because
• 9:13
  we
• 9:13
  had
• 9:13
  this
• 9:13
  moment
• 9:14
  in
• 9:14
  the
• 9:15
  60s
• 9:15
  where
• 9:15
  we
• 9:15
  swung
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  a
• 9:16
  liberal
• 9:16
  society.
• 9:17
  We
• 9:17
  had
• 9:17
  a
• 9:17
  robust
• 9:18
  middle
• 9:18
  class.
• 9:19
  People
• 9:19
  could
• 9:19
  afford
• 9:20
  housing,
• 9:20
  they
• 9:20
  could
• 9:20
  afford
• 9:21
  one
• 9:21
  income
• 9:21
  families.
• 9:22
  And
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  rate
• 9:22
  of
• 9:23
  wealth
• 9:23
  among
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  middle
• 9:24
  class
• 9:24
  was
• 9:24
  rising
• 9:25
  faster
• 9:25
  than
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  wealth
• 9:26
  class.
• 9:26
  And
• 9:26
  that
• 9:26
  had
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  come
• 9:27
  to
• 9:27
  a
• 9:27
  stop.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  Reagan
• 9:28
  revolution
• 9:29
  represented
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  clawing
• 9:30
  back
• 9:31
  to
• 9:31
  a
• 9:31
  more
• 9:31
  conservative
• 9:32
  age.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:33
  Roberts,
• 9:33
  he
• 9:34
  was
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  go
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  guy
• 9:35
  for
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  Reagan
• 9:35
  administration.
• 9:36
  You
• 9:36
  wrote
• 9:37
  in
• 9:37
  the
• 9:37
  book
• 9:37
  that
• 9:37
  when
• 9:38
  Justice
• 9:38
  Sandra
• 9:38
  Day
• 9:39
  o'
• 9:39
  Connor
• 9:39
  was
• 9:40
  nominated
• 9:40
  by
• 9:41
  Reagan,
• 9:42
  John
• 9:42
  Roberts
• 9:43
  coached
• 9:43
  Sandra
• 9:44
  Day
• 9:44
  o'
• 9:44
  Connor
• 9:44
  on
• 9:45
  how
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  not
• 9:46
  answer
• 9:46
  questions
• 9:47
  when
• 9:47
  she
• 9:47
  was
• 9:47
  in
• 9:47
  hearings.
• 9:48
  And
• 9:48
  then
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  2000,
• 9:49
  when
• 9:49
  he
• 9:49
  was
• 9:49
  an
• 9:49
  appellate
• 9:50
  lawyer
• 9:50
  in
• 9:50
  private
• 9:51
  practice,
• 9:51
  Roberts
• 9:52
  traveled
• 9:52
  to
• 9:52
  Florida
• 9:53
  to
• 9:53
  advise
• 9:54
  then
• 9:54
  Florida
• 9:54
  Governor
• 9:55
  Jeb
• 9:55
  Bush,
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  President's
• 9:56
  brother
• 9:57
  on
• 9:57
  how
• 9:57
  to
• 9:57
  navigate
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  recount.
• 9:58
  Less
• 9:59
  than
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  week
• 9:59
  before
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  court
• 10:00
  issued
• 10:00
  its
• 10:00
  partisan
• 10:01
  5,
• 10:01
  4
• 10:01
  ruling
• 10:02
  of
• 10:02
  Bush
• 10:02
  v.
• 10:02
  Gore,
• 10:03
  they
• 10:03
  stopped
• 10:03
  the
• 10:04
  recount.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:04
  when
• 10:04
  that
• 10:05
  happened,
• 10:05
  Jeb
• 10:05
  sent
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  personal
• 10:06
  note
• 10:07
  to
• 10:07
  Roberts
• 10:07
  thanking
• 10:08
  him.
• 10:08
  And
• 10:08
  as
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  write
• 10:09
  in
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  book,
• 10:09
  there's
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  good
• 10:10
  chance
• 10:10
  that
• 10:10
  Gore
• 10:11
  would
• 10:11
  have
• 10:11
  won.
• 10:12
  Yep.
• 10:12
  Yeah,
• 10:13
  this
• 10:13
  is,
• 10:13
  it's
• 10:13
  really
• 10:14
  extraordinary
• 10:14
  when
• 10:14
  you
• 10:14
  think
• 10:15
  about
• 10:15
  where
• 10:15
  we
• 10:15
  are
• 10:15
  now
• 10:16
  in
• 10:16
  2026
• 10:17
  compared
• 10:17
  to
• 10:17
  2000.
• 10:19
  That
• 10:19
  was
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  hyper
• 10:20
  partisan
• 10:20
  decision
• 10:21
  by
• 10:21
  the
• 10:22
  Rehnquist
• 10:23
  Court.
• 10:23
  That
• 10:23
  was
• 10:24
  John
• 10:24
  Roberts
• 10:24
  mentor,
• 10:25
  Bill
• 10:25
  Rehnquist.
• 10:26
  And
• 10:26
  although
• 10:27
  Souter
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  on
• 10:28
  the
• 10:28
  other
• 10:28
  side
• 10:28
  of
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  vote,
• 10:29
  it
• 10:29
  was
• 10:29
  five
• 10:30
  Republicans
• 10:31
  voting
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  stop
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  ballots
• 10:33
  from
• 10:33
  being
• 10:33
  counted
• 10:34
  in
• 10:34
  Florida.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:36
  they
• 10:36
  adopted
• 10:37
  arguments
• 10:37
  that
• 10:38
  were
• 10:38
  made
• 10:38
  by
• 10:38
  the
• 10:39
  Bush
• 10:39
  team.
• 10:39
  And
• 10:40
  we
• 10:40
  now
• 10:40
  know
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  John
• 10:41
  Roberts
• 10:42
  helped
• 10:42
  advise
• 10:43
  some
• 10:43
  of
• 10:43
  the
• 10:43
  main
• 10:43
  lawyers
• 10:44
  arguing
• 10:44
  the
• 10:45
  cases
• 10:45
  below
• 10:45
  before
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  Florida
• 10:46
  Supreme
• 10:47
  Court.
• 10:47
  But
• 10:47
  it
• 10:48
  wasn't
• 10:48
  just
• 10:48
  him.
• 10:49
  Brett
• 10:49
  Kavanaugh
• 10:50
  went
• 10:50
  to
• 10:50
  Florida
• 10:51
  also
• 10:51
  to
• 10:51
  help
• 10:51
  with
• 10:51
  the
• 10:52
  recount,
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  also
• 10:53
  Amy
• 10:53
  Coney
• 10:54
  Barrett
• 10:55
  went
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  Florida
• 10:55
  to
• 10:55
  help
• 10:55
  with
• 10:56
  the
• 10:56
  recount.
• 10:56
  And
• 10:56
  we
• 10:57
  also
• 10:57
  learned
• 10:57
  through
• 10:57
  the
• 10:58
  research
• 10:58
  that
• 10:58
  I've
• 10:59
  done
• 10:59
  and
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  my
• 10:59
  team
• 11:00
  has
• 11:00
  done,
• 11:01
  that
• 11:01
  Ted
• 11:01
  Cruz
• 11:02
  was
• 11:02
  instrumental
• 11:03
  in
• 11:04
  bringing
• 11:04
  people
• 11:04
  together
• 11:05
  for
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  recount,
• 11:06
  including
• 11:06
  lawyers
• 11:06
  like
• 11:06
  John
• 11:07
  Roberts.
• 11:07
  That
• 11:07
  was
• 11:07
  one
• 11:07
  of
• 11:07
  his
• 11:08
  first
• 11:08
  calls.
• 11:09
  But
• 11:09
  also
• 11:10
  Leonard
• 11:10
  Leo,
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  man
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  Donald
• 11:11
  Trump
• 11:11
  tapped
• 11:12
  to
• 11:13
  choose
• 11:13
  his
• 11:13
  list
• 11:14
  for
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  Supreme
• 11:15
  Court,
• 11:15
  to
• 11:15
  hand
• 11:15
  pick
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  Supreme
• 11:16
  Court
• 11:16
  justices
• 11:17
  in
• 11:17
  Trump's
• 11:18
  first
• 11:18
  term.
• 11:19
  Leonard
• 11:19
  Leo
• 11:19
  was
• 11:20
  organizing
• 11:20
  lawyers,
• 11:20
  including
• 11:21
  John
• 11:21
  Roberts
• 11:22
  and
• 11:22
  others,
• 11:22
  to,
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  know,
• 11:23
  be
• 11:23
  there
• 11:24
  people
• 11:24
  who
• 11:24
  had
• 11:24
  been
• 11:25
  either
• 11:26
  part
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  federal
• 11:26
  society
• 11:27
  or
• 11:27
  helped
• 11:27
  or
• 11:28
  friendly
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  federal
• 11:28
  society.
• 11:29
  And
• 11:30
  so
• 11:30
  you
• 11:30
  have
• 11:30
  a
• 11:30
  situation
• 11:31
  where
• 11:32
  these
• 11:32
  key
• 11:32
  players
• 11:32
  who
• 11:33
  were
• 11:33
  not
• 11:33
  famous
• 11:34
  then,
• 11:34
  but
• 11:35
  are
• 11:35
  very
• 11:35
  famous
• 11:35
  now,
• 11:36
  were
• 11:36
  part
• 11:37
  of
• 11:37
  that
• 11:37
  effort
• 11:37
  to
• 11:38
  block
• 11:38
  Americans
• 11:39
  votes
• 11:39
  from
• 11:39
  being
• 11:40
  counted
• 11:41
  in
• 11:41
  that
• 11:41
  election.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:42
  what
• 11:42
  that
• 11:42
  meant
• 11:43
  was
• 11:43
  not
• 11:44
  just
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  we
• 11:44
  had
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  president
• 11:45
  in
• 11:45
  George
• 11:46
  W.
• 11:46
  Bush
• 11:46
  and
• 11:47
  his
• 11:47
  vice
• 11:47
  president,
• 11:47
  Dick
• 11:47
  Cheney,
• 11:48
  who
• 11:49
  lied
• 11:49
  us
• 11:50
  into
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  war
• 11:50
  in
• 11:51
  Iraq,
• 11:52
  who
• 11:52
  made
• 11:53
  false
• 11:53
  claims
• 11:54
  about
• 11:54
  weapons
• 11:54
  of
• 11:54
  mass
• 11:55
  destruction
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  like.
• 11:56
  But
• 11:56
  what
• 11:56
  that
• 11:57
  meant
• 11:57
  was
• 11:57
  that
• 11:57
  in
• 11:58
  2004,
• 11:59
  they
• 11:59
  were
• 12:00
  incumbents
• 12:00
  when
• 12:01
  they
• 12:01
  ran
• 12:01
  again,
• 12:01
  and
• 12:02
  incumbents
• 12:02
  typically
• 12:03
  have
• 12:03
  an
• 12:03
  advantage.
• 12:04
  And
• 12:04
  so
• 12:04
  they
• 12:05
  were
• 12:05
  in
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  place
• 12:06
  to
• 12:06
  benefit
• 12:07
  from
• 12:07
  those
• 12:08
  vacancies
• 12:08
  from
• 12:08
  Sandra
• 12:09
  Day
• 12:09
  o'
• 12:09
  Connor
• 12:10
  stepping
• 12:10
  down
• 12:11
  after
• 12:11
  George
• 12:11
  W.
• 12:12
  Bush
• 12:12
  was
• 12:12
  elected
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  2004.
• 12:15
  And
• 12:15
  then
• 12:15
  you
• 12:16
  had
• 12:16
  Bill
• 12:17
  Rehnquist
• 12:17
  dying
• 12:18
  in
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  fall
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  2005.
• 12:20
  And
• 12:20
  that
• 12:21
  opened
• 12:21
  up
• 12:21
  two
• 12:22
  seats
• 12:22
  for
• 12:23
  George
• 12:23
  W.
• 12:24
  Bush.
• 12:24
  Had
• 12:25
  Gore
• 12:25
  been
• 12:25
  president,
• 12:26
  it
• 12:26
  would
• 12:27
  be
• 12:27
  a
• 12:27
  Democratic
• 12:27
  majority
• 12:28
  in
• 12:28
  terms
• 12:28
  of
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  appointees
• 12:29
  on
• 12:29
  the
• 12:29
  Supreme
• 12:30
  Court.
• 12:30
  But
• 12:30
  not
• 12:30
  just
• 12:30
  that.
• 12:31
  That
• 12:31
  wasn't
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  only
• 12:32
  sort
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  thing
• 12:33
  of
• 12:34
  fate
• 12:34
  or,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:35
  know,
• 12:35
  thing
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  was
• 12:35
  sort
• 12:36
  of
• 12:36
  changed
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  history
• 12:37
  due
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  this
• 12:38
  unprecedented
• 12:39
  intervention
• 12:40
  by
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  Supreme
• 12:41
  Court
• 12:42
  in
• 12:42
  2000.
• 12:43
  But
• 12:43
  also,
• 12:44
  as
• 12:44
  we
• 12:44
  all
• 12:44
  know,
• 12:45
  we
• 12:45
  saw
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  Republicans
• 12:46
  block
• 12:46
  President
• 12:46
  Obama
• 12:47
  from
• 12:48
  filling
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  vacancy
• 12:49
  when
• 12:49
  Scalia
• 12:50
  died.
• 12:50
  And
• 12:50
  Obama
• 12:51
  was
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  twice
• 12:52
  duly
• 12:52
  elected,
• 12:53
  popularly
• 12:53
  elected
• 12:54
  President
• 12:55
  of
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  United
• 12:55
  States.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:56
  the
• 12:56
  Republicans,
• 12:56
  conspiring
• 12:57
  with
• 12:58
  their
• 12:58
  funders
• 12:58
  and
• 12:59
  with
• 12:59
  people
• 12:59
  like
• 12:59
  Leonard
• 13:00
  Leo,
• 13:00
  blocked
• 13:01
  that
• 13:01
  vacancy
• 13:01
  from
• 13:02
  being
• 13:02
  filled
• 13:02
  with
• 13:02
  Merrick
• 13:02
  Garland.
• 13:03
  Filled
• 13:03
  it
• 13:04
  with
• 13:04
  no
• 13:04
  Gorsuch.
• 13:04
  Their
• 13:05
  claim
• 13:05
  was
• 13:05
  you
• 13:06
  couldn't
• 13:06
  confirm
• 13:07
  someone
• 13:07
  at
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  Supreme
• 13:07
  Court
• 13:08
  while
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  presidential
• 13:08
  election
• 13:09
  year
• 13:09
  was
• 13:09
  happening.
• 13:10
  Yeah.
• 13:10
  Even
• 13:10
  though
• 13:11
  he
• 13:11
  died.
• 13:11
  Yeah.
• 13:12
  In
• 13:12
  February
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  election
• 13:14
  was
• 13:14
  in
• 13:14
  November.
• 13:14
  Then,
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
  course,
• 13:16
  Fast
• 13:16
  forward
• 13:16
  to
• 13:17
  2020
• 13:18
  when
• 13:19
  Ruth
• 13:19
  Bader
• 13:19
  Ginsburg
• 13:20
  dies
• 13:20
  in
• 13:21
  September
• 13:21
  of
• 13:21
  2020.
• 13:22
  They
• 13:23
  moved
• 13:23
  Amy
• 13:24
  Coney
• 13:24
  Barrett
• 13:24
  on
• 13:24
  the
• 13:24
  Supreme
• 13:25
  Court
• 13:25
  within
• 13:25
  a
• 13:25
  month
• 13:25
  as
• 13:26
  Americans
• 13:26
  were
• 13:26
  voting
• 13:27
  Donald
• 13:27
  Trump
• 13:27
  out
• 13:28
  of
• 13:28
  office.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:29
  in
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  middle
• 13:29
  of
• 13:30
  that,
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  had
• 13:30
  Brett
• 13:30
  Kavanaugh
• 13:31
  confirmed,
• 13:32
  despite
• 13:32
  the
• 13:32
  very
• 13:33
  serious
• 13:33
  allegations
• 13:34
  against
• 13:34
  him.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:36
  if
• 13:36
  Gorsuch
• 13:37
  had
• 13:37
  not
• 13:37
  been
• 13:37
  confirmed
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  if
• 13:39
  Amy
• 13:39
  Coney
• 13:39
  Barrett
• 13:40
  had
• 13:40
  not
• 13:40
  been
• 13:40
  confirmed,
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  would
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  super
• 13:42
  majority
• 13:42
  on
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  Supreme
• 13:43
  Court
• 13:43
  of
• 13:43
  Democratic.
• 13:45
  So
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  had
• 13:45
  this
• 13:45
  complicity
• 13:46
  by
• 13:46
  all
• 13:46
  branches
• 13:47
  because
• 13:47
  Mitch
• 13:47
  McConnell,
• 13:48
  who
• 13:48
  was
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  Senate
• 13:48
  leader
• 13:49
  at
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  time,
• 13:49
  considers
• 13:50
  one
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  his
• 13:50
  proudest
• 13:51
  achievements
• 13:51
  was
• 13:51
  to
• 13:52
  destroy
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  Merrick
• 13:53
  Garland
• 13:53
  nomination.
• 13:55
  People
• 13:55
  could
• 13:55
  argue
• 13:55
  and
• 13:55
  say,
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  guys
• 13:56
  are
• 13:56
  left.
• 13:56
  You
• 13:57
  guys
• 13:57
  just
• 13:57
  don't
• 13:57
  agree
• 13:57
  with
• 13:58
  what
• 13:58
  they're
• 13:58
  doing
• 13:58
  and
• 13:58
  they're
• 13:58
  winning.
• 13:59
  In
• 13:59
  your
• 13:59
  sour
• 13:59
  grapes,
• 14:00
  there's
• 14:00
  a
• 14:01
  very
• 14:01
  interesting
• 14:01
  personal
• 14:01
  perspective
• 14:02
  you
• 14:02
  wrote
• 14:02
  about
• 14:02
  in
• 14:02
  your
• 14:03
  book.
• 14:03
  When
• 14:03
  you
• 14:03
  were
• 14:03
  involved
• 14:04
  in
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  vetting
• 14:04
  of
• 14:05
  judicial
• 14:05
  appointees,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:07
  were
• 14:07
  reporting
• 14:07
  to
• 14:08
  Attorney
• 14:08
  Generals
• 14:09
  Janet
• 14:09
  Reno
• 14:10
  and
• 14:10
  then
• 14:10
  John
• 14:10
  Ashcroft,
• 14:11
  and
• 14:12
  you
• 14:12
  witnessed
• 14:12
  a
• 14:13
  shocking
• 14:13
  view
• 14:13
  from
• 14:13
  the
• 14:14
  top
• 14:14
  in
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  way
• 14:14
  in
• 14:15
  which
• 14:15
  they
• 14:15
  operated
• 14:16
  or
• 14:16
  performed
• 14:16
  their
• 14:17
  duties
• 14:17
  in
• 14:17
  vetting
• 14:18
  potential
• 14:18
  judicial
• 14:19
  nominees.
• 14:20
  This
• 14:20
  perspective,
• 14:20
  you
• 14:21
  saw
• 14:21
  how
• 14:21
  Ashcroft
• 14:22
  on
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  Republican
• 14:23
  side
• 14:23
  operated
• 14:24
  and
• 14:24
  how
• 14:24
  Reno
• 14:25
  operated
• 14:26
  says
• 14:26
  another
• 14:26
  story,
• 14:27
  doesn't
• 14:27
  it?
• 14:28
  There's
• 14:29
  so
• 14:29
  much
• 14:29
  more
• 14:29
  to
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  story.
• 14:29
  I
• 14:30
  know
• 14:30
  we
• 14:30
  have
• 14:30
  time
• 14:30
  for
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  full
• 14:30
  version,
• 14:31
  but
• 14:32
  read
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  book.
• 14:34
  Ms.
• 14:34
  Reno
• 14:34
  was
• 14:35
  very
• 14:35
  conscientious
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  very
• 14:38
  devoted
• 14:38
  to
• 14:38
  making
• 14:39
  sure
• 14:39
  that
• 14:39
  we
• 14:39
  had
• 14:40
  people.
• 14:40
  What
• 14:41
  would
• 14:41
  happen
• 14:41
  is
• 14:41
  a
• 14:41
  senator
• 14:42
  or
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  member
• 14:42
  of
• 14:42
  Congress
• 14:42
  or
• 14:43
  maybe
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  donor
• 14:44
  might
• 14:44
  say,
• 14:44
  hey,
• 14:44
  I
• 14:45
  recommend
• 14:45
  this
• 14:45
  person
• 14:45
  for
• 14:45
  judgeship,
• 14:46
  but
• 14:46
  we
• 14:47
  did
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  full
• 14:47
  vetting
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  those
• 14:48
  nominees
• 14:48
  to
• 14:48
  make
• 14:49
  sure
• 14:49
  that
• 14:49
  they
• 14:49
  qualified
• 14:50
  and
• 14:50
  that
• 14:50
  wasn't
• 14:50
  nepotism
• 14:51
  and
• 14:51
  that
• 14:51
  they
• 14:51
  didn't
• 14:52
  have
• 14:52
  issues
• 14:52
  or
• 14:52
  scandals
• 14:53
  in
• 14:53
  their
• 14:53
  background
• 14:54
  that
• 14:54
  they
• 14:54
  were
• 14:54
  qualified.
• 14:55
  Reno
• 14:55
  was
• 14:55
  under
• 14:55
  Clinton.
• 14:56
  Yes,
• 14:56
  under
• 14:56
  Clinton.
• 14:56
  Yes,
• 14:56
  under
• 14:57
  Clinton.
• 14:57
  And
• 14:57
  then
• 14:58
  when
• 14:58
  Bush
• 14:59
  came
• 14:59
  in
• 14:59
  and
• 14:59
  Ashcroft
• 15:00
  became
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  Attorney
• 15:00
  General,
• 15:01
  they
• 15:01
  threw
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  American
• 15:02
  Bar
• 15:02
  association
• 15:03
  out
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  the
• 15:04
  review
• 15:04
  process.
• 15:04
  Where
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  would
• 15:05
  have
• 15:05
  the
• 15:06
  bars
• 15:06
  of
• 15:06
  a
• 15:07
  particular
• 15:07
  state
• 15:07
  or
• 15:07
  city,
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  people
• 15:09
  in
• 15:09
  that
• 15:09
  bar
• 15:09
  being
• 15:09
  asked,
• 15:10
  does
• 15:10
  this
• 15:10
  person
• 15:10
  have
• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  good
• 15:11
  reputation?
• 15:11
  Are
• 15:11
  they
• 15:12
  honest?
• 15:12
  Are
• 15:13
  they
• 15:13
  an
• 15:13
  honest
• 15:13
  lawyer?
• 15:14
  Are
• 15:14
  they
• 15:14
  someone
• 15:14
  who
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  deceptive
• 15:16
  and
• 15:17
  biased?
• 15:18
  And
• 15:18
  they
• 15:19
  immediately
• 15:19
  cut
• 15:19
  that
• 15:20
  out.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:20
  the
• 15:21
  Ashcroft
• 15:21
  Justice
• 15:22
  Department
• 15:22
  worked
• 15:23
  with
• 15:23
  the
• 15:24
  Federal
• 15:24
  Society
• 15:25
  with
• 15:25
  Leonard
• 15:25
  Leo
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  be
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  ones
• 15:26
  who
• 15:27
  screened
• 15:27
  people
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  be,
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  get
• 15:28
  judgeships.
• 15:29
  And
• 15:29
  they
• 15:29
  started
• 15:30
  putting
• 15:30
  forward
• 15:31
  very
• 15:31
  young
• 15:32
  people
• 15:32
  because
• 15:32
  they
• 15:33
  wanted
• 15:33
  them
• 15:33
  to
• 15:33
  stay
• 15:33
  on
• 15:33
  the
• 15:34
  bench
• 15:34
  for
• 15:34
  30
• 15:34
  or
• 15:34
  40
• 15:35
  years
• 15:36
  beyond
• 15:36
  like
• 15:37
  10
• 15:37
  times
• 15:37
  the
• 15:38
  period,
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  term
• 15:39
  of
• 15:39
  a
• 15:40
  president.
• 15:40
  They
• 15:40
  wanted
• 15:41
  young
• 15:41
  ideologues.
• 15:42
  They
• 15:42
  didn't
• 15:42
  want
• 15:42
  people
• 15:43
  who
• 15:43
  had
• 15:43
  more
• 15:43
  experience,
• 15:44
  who
• 15:44
  are
• 15:45
  the
• 15:45
  overlords,
• 15:46
  who
• 15:46
  are.
• 15:46
  The
• 15:47
  puppet
• 15:47
  masters,
• 15:48
  who's
• 15:48
  in
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  writers
• 15:49
  room
• 15:50
  doing
• 15:50
  all
• 15:50
  of
• 15:50
  this?
• 15:51
  Oh,
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  love
• 15:52
  you
• 15:53
  know
• 15:53
  what
• 15:53
  I
• 15:53
  mean?
• 15:54
  Yeah.
• 15:54
  I'm
• 15:54
  super
• 15:54
  happy
• 15:55
  on
• 15:55
  this
• 15:55
  show
• 15:55
  with
• 15:56
  you,
• 15:56
  Phil
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  Ted.
• 15:57
  That
• 15:58
  is
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  great
• 15:58
  question
• 15:58
  and
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  really
• 15:59
  is
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  right
• 16:01
  question
• 16:01
  because
• 16:02
  this
• 16:02
  just,
• 16:02
  this
• 16:03
  didn't
• 16:03
  happen
• 16:03
  overnight.
• 16:04
  Like
• 16:05
  I
• 16:05
  said,
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  Federal
• 16:06
  Society
• 16:06
  was
• 16:06
  initially
• 16:07
  staked
• 16:08
  by
• 16:08
  Dick
• 16:09
  Scaife,
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  very
• 16:10
  notorious
• 16:10
  right
• 16:10
  winger
• 16:11
  who
• 16:11
  ultimately
• 16:12
  would
• 16:13
  go
• 16:13
  on
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  fund
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  attack
• 16:14
  on
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  tax,
• 16:15
  on
• 16:15
  Bill
• 16:15
  Clinton,
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  American
• 16:16
  Spectator
• 16:17
  attacks
• 16:17
  and
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  like,
• 16:19
  along
• 16:19
  with
• 16:19
  a
• 16:19
  bunch
• 16:19
  of
• 16:19
  other
• 16:20
  dirty
• 16:20
  tricks.
• 16:20
  He
• 16:21
  was,
• 16:21
  you
• 16:21
  know,
• 16:21
  very
• 16:21
  Nixonian,
• 16:22
  supporter
• 16:23
  of
• 16:23
  the
• 16:24
  far
• 16:24
  right
• 16:24
  in
• 16:24
  America.
• 16:25
  When
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  Federal
• 16:26
  Society
• 16:26
  was
• 16:26
  launched
• 16:27
  back
• 16:27
  in
• 16:27
  1982,
• 16:28
  it
• 16:29
  claims
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  have
• 16:30
  been
• 16:30
  just
• 16:30
  three
• 16:31
  students
• 16:31
  getting
• 16:31
  together
• 16:32
  to
• 16:32
  advance
• 16:32
  so
• 16:33
  called
• 16:33
  conservative
• 16:34
  ideas.
• 16:34
  Well,
• 16:35
  its
• 16:35
  two
• 16:36
  leading
• 16:36
  advisors
• 16:37
  were
• 16:37
  Robert
• 16:37
  Bork,
• 16:38
  who'd
• 16:38
  just
• 16:38
  been
• 16:38
  confirmed
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  judgeship
• 16:40
  by
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  Senate
• 16:40
  after
• 16:41
  Reagan
• 16:41
  nominated
• 16:42
  him,
• 16:42
  and
• 16:42
  Antonin
• 16:43
  Scalia,
• 16:43
  who
• 16:44
  a
• 16:44
  few
• 16:44
  months
• 16:44
  later
• 16:45
  would
• 16:45
  also
• 16:45
  be
• 16:46
  nominated
• 16:47
  to
• 16:47
  a
• 16:47
  circuit
• 16:47
  court
• 16:48
  position.
• 16:48
  And
• 16:49
  the
• 16:49
  Federal
• 16:49
  Society
• 16:49
  was
• 16:50
  created
• 16:50
  not
• 16:50
  just
• 16:50
  as
• 16:50
  a
• 16:51
  so
• 16:51
  called
• 16:51
  conservative
• 16:52
  organization,
• 16:53
  but
• 16:53
  as
• 16:53
  a
• 16:53
  conservative
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  libertarian
• 16:55
  organization.
• 16:56
  And
• 16:56
  we
• 16:57
  know
• 16:57
  that
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  biggest
• 16:57
  funder
• 16:58
  of
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  libertarian
• 16:59
  party
• 17:00
  in
• 17:00
  1980
• 17:01
  was
• 17:01
  David
• 17:01
  Koch.
• 17:03
  He
• 17:03
  was
• 17:04
  the
• 17:04
  brother
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  Charles
• 17:04
  Koch.
• 17:05
  Charles
• 17:05
  and
• 17:06
  David
• 17:06
  Koch
• 17:06
  had
• 17:06
  cumulatively
• 17:07
  spent
• 17:07
  hundreds
• 17:08
  of
• 17:08
  millions
• 17:09
  on
• 17:09
  elections
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  influence
• 17:10
  elections
• 17:11
  in
• 17:11
  America.
• 17:11
  Oil
• 17:12
  money.
• 17:12
  Oil
• 17:12
  money,
• 17:12
  yeah,
• 17:13
  big
• 17:13
  oil
• 17:13
  money.
• 17:14
  And
• 17:14
  these
• 17:14
  people
• 17:15
  play
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  long
• 17:15
  game.
• 17:16
  The
• 17:16
  Koch
• 17:17
  brothers
• 17:17
  have
• 17:17
  funded
• 17:18
  curriculums
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  college
• 17:19
  campuses
• 17:21
  in
• 17:21
  return
• 17:21
  for
• 17:22
  right
• 17:22
  wing
• 17:23
  ideology.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:23
  a
• 17:24
  lot
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  universities
• 17:24
  take
• 17:25
  that
• 17:25
  money.
• 17:25
  I
• 17:25
  think
• 17:25
  Harvard
• 17:26
  was
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  one
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  did
• 17:26
  not.
• 17:27
  And
• 17:27
  they've
• 17:27
  been
• 17:28
  under
• 17:28
  attack.
• 17:28
  Yeah,
• 17:29
  Price
• 17:29
  they're
• 17:29
  paying,
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  dark
• 17:30
  money
• 17:30
  is
• 17:30
  extraordinary.
• 17:31
  And
• 17:31
  Charles
• 17:31
  Koch,
• 17:31
  as
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  said,
• 17:32
  it
• 17:32
  has
• 17:32
  played
• 17:32
  the
• 17:33
  long
• 17:33
  game.
• 17:33
  We
• 17:33
  know
• 17:34
  from
• 17:34
  my
• 17:34
  research
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  he's
• 17:36
  been
• 17:36
  targeting
• 17:36
  universities
• 17:38
  for
• 17:38
  capture
• 17:39
  since
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  1960s.
• 17:40
  Like
• 17:41
  how
• 17:41
  can
• 17:41
  he
• 17:42
  get
• 17:42
  his
• 17:42
  fringe
• 17:43
  ideas
• 17:43
  into
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  position
• 17:44
  where
• 17:44
  they
• 17:44
  become
• 17:45
  dominant?
• 17:46
  We're
• 17:46
  speaking
• 17:46
  with
• 17:46
  Lisa
• 17:47
  Graves,
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  Author
• 17:47
  of
• 17:48
  the
• 17:48
  bestselling
• 17:48
  book
• 17:48
  Without
• 17:49
  How
• 17:50
  Chief
• 17:50
  Justice
• 17:50
  Roberts
• 17:51
  and
• 17:51
  His
• 17:51
  Accomplices
• 17:51
  Rewrote
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  Constitution
• 17:52
  and
• 17:53
  Dismantled
• 17:53
  Our
• 17:53
  Rights.
• 17:54
  Again,
• 17:54
  Roberts,
• 17:55
  who
• 17:55
  you're
• 17:55
  focusing
• 17:56
  on,
• 17:56
  this
• 17:56
  guy
• 17:57
  is
• 17:57
  a
• 17:57
  lifelong
• 17:58
  operative
• 17:59
  for
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  right
• 18:00
  wing.
• 18:00
  When
• 18:01
  he
• 18:01
  was
• 18:01
  with
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  Reagan
• 18:02
  administration,
• 18:03
  he
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  vocally
• 18:04
  opposed
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  affirmative
• 18:05
  action,
• 18:05
  minority
• 18:06
  set
• 18:06
  asides,
• 18:07
  employment
• 18:07
  tests.
• 18:08
  Roberts
• 18:08
  asserted
• 18:09
  that
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  Supreme
• 18:09
  Court
• 18:09
  precedents
• 18:10
  against
• 18:10
  voluntary
• 18:11
  prayer,
• 18:11
  or
• 18:12
  so
• 18:12
  called
• 18:12
  moments
• 18:12
  of
• 18:12
  silence
• 18:13
  in
• 18:13
  schools,
• 18:13
  seemed
• 18:14
  indefensible.
• 18:15
  He
• 18:15
  also
• 18:15
  routinely
• 18:16
  used
• 18:17
  his
• 18:17
  perch,
• 18:17
  as
• 18:17
  you
• 18:17
  wrote,
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  assail
• 18:18
  women's
• 18:19
  equality
• 18:19
  rights,
• 18:20
  including
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  Equal
• 18:21
  Rights
• 18:21
  Amendment.
• 18:22
  And
• 18:22
  you
• 18:22
  wrote,
• 18:23
  quote,
• 18:23
  his
• 18:23
  writings
• 18:24
  show
• 18:24
  him
• 18:24
  to
• 18:24
  be
• 18:24
  arrogant
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  sarcastic
• 18:26
  on
• 18:26
  the
• 18:26
  subject.
• 18:27
  Yes.
• 18:28
  So
• 18:28
  this
• 18:28
  is
• 18:28
  a
• 18:28
  guy
• 18:29
  who
• 18:29
  is
• 18:29
  far
• 18:29
  from
• 18:30
  impartial.
• 18:31
  We
• 18:31
  know
• 18:31
  why
• 18:32
  they
• 18:32
  pick
• 18:32
  young
• 18:32
  nominees
• 18:33
  because
• 18:33
  their
• 18:34
  shelf
• 18:34
  life
• 18:34
  is
• 18:34
  long,
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  keep
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  political
• 18:36
  wins
• 18:37
  the
• 18:37
  way
• 18:37
  they
• 18:37
  want.
• 18:38
  But
• 18:38
  why
• 18:38
  not
• 18:38
  pick
• 18:38
  an
• 18:39
  experienced
• 18:39
  associate
• 18:40
  judge
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  run
• 18:41
  the
• 18:41
  court?
• 18:41
  How
• 18:41
  does
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  guy
• 18:42
  out
• 18:42
  of
• 18:42
  nowhere
• 18:42
  suddenly
• 18:43
  become
• 18:43
  Chief
• 18:44
  Justice?
• 18:45
  Well,
• 18:45
  so
• 18:45
  the
• 18:45
  Chief
• 18:45
  justice
• 18:46
  position
• 18:46
  is
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  position
• 18:47
  that
• 18:47
  gets
• 18:48
  filled
• 18:49
  by
• 18:49
  a
• 18:49
  presidential
• 18:50
  nomination
• 18:50
  with
• 18:50
  the
• 18:51
  Senate's
• 18:51
  consent.
• 18:52
  And
• 18:53
  it,
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  think
• 18:54
  it
• 18:54
  should
• 18:54
  be
• 18:54
  someone
• 18:55
  who
• 18:55
  is
• 18:56
  skilled
• 18:57
  in
• 18:57
  administration
• 18:58
  and
• 18:58
  has
• 18:58
  an
• 18:58
  impeccable
• 18:59
  record
• 19:00
  for
• 19:00
  fairness.
• 19:00
  But
• 19:00
  that's
• 19:01
  not
• 19:01
  how
• 19:01
  it
• 19:01
  has
• 19:01
  worked.
• 19:02
  It
• 19:03
  has
• 19:03
  been
• 19:03
  used
• 19:04
  in
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  case
• 19:04
  of
• 19:04
  John
• 19:05
  Roberts
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  reward
• 19:05
  someone
• 19:06
  with
• 19:07
  such
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  position
• 19:08
  who
• 19:08
  is
• 19:09
  very
• 19:10
  devoted
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  this
• 19:11
  right
• 19:11
  wing
• 19:11
  agenda.
• 19:12
  But
• 19:12
  it
• 19:12
  is
• 19:12
  not
• 19:13
  just
• 19:13
  the
• 19:14
  Chief
• 19:14
  justice
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  Supreme
• 19:15
  Court
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  United
• 19:15
  States.
• 19:16
  It's
• 19:16
  also
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  Chief
• 19:16
  justice
• 19:17
  for
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  US
• 19:18
  Judicial
• 19:18
  system.
• 19:19
  And
• 19:19
  so
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  person
• 19:19
  who
• 19:20
  is
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  Chief
• 19:20
  justice
• 19:21
  is,
• 19:21
  gets
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  choose
• 19:22
  who
• 19:22
  sits
• 19:22
  on
• 19:22
  almost
• 19:23
  all
• 19:23
  of
• 19:23
  the
• 19:24
  judicial
• 19:24
  committees
• 19:25
  for
• 19:25
  issues
• 19:26
  like
• 19:26
  ethics
• 19:27
  and
• 19:27
  the
• 19:27
  like,
• 19:27
  including
• 19:28
  overseeing
• 19:29
  the
• 19:29
  Judicial
• 19:30
  Conference,
• 19:30
  which
• 19:31
  is
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  chief
• 19:31
  judges
• 19:32
  of
• 19:32
  the
• 19:32
  other
• 19:32
  circuits
• 19:33
  of
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  circuit
• 19:33
  courts
• 19:34
  and
• 19:34
  representatives
• 19:35
  from
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  district
• 19:35
  courts.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:36
  in
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  role,
• 19:36
  the
• 19:37
  Judicial
• 19:37
  Conference
• 19:38
  has
• 19:38
  swept
• 19:39
  under
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  rug
• 19:39
  the
• 19:40
  very
• 19:40
  serious
• 19:40
  ethical
• 19:41
  concerns
• 19:41
  and
• 19:42
  allegations
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  evidence
• 19:43
  against
• 19:44
  Clarence
• 19:45
  Thomas,
• 19:45
  against
• 19:46
  Sam
• 19:46
  Alito
• 19:47
  and
• 19:47
  others.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:47
  so
• 19:48
  you
• 19:48
  have
• 19:48
  a
• 19:48
  judiciary
• 19:49
  helmed
• 19:49
  by
• 19:50
  someone
• 19:50
  in
• 19:50
  John
• 19:50
  Roberts
• 19:51
  determined
• 19:52
  to
• 19:52
  not
• 19:53
  hold
• 19:53
  a
• 19:54
  Justice
• 19:54
  accountable
• 19:55
  for
• 19:55
  violating
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  ethics
• 19:56
  rules
• 19:56
  in
• 19:56
  numerous
• 19:57
  ways.
• 19:58
  But
• 19:58
  who
• 19:58
  is
• 19:58
  John
• 19:59
  Roberts?
• 19:59
  He's
• 19:59
  someone
• 19:59
  who,
• 20:00
  when
• 20:00
  he
• 20:01
  was
• 20:01
  nominated
• 20:01
  in
• 20:02
  2005
• 20:02
  for
• 20:03
  that
• 20:03
  Chief
• 20:04
  justice
• 20:04
  position,
• 20:05
  his
• 20:05
  confirmation
• 20:06
  was
• 20:06
  backed
• 20:07
  by
• 20:07
  a
• 20:07
  bunch
• 20:07
  of
• 20:07
  billionaires,
• 20:08
  including
• 20:08
  people
• 20:09
  who
• 20:09
  were
• 20:10
  not
• 20:10
  famous
• 20:10
  then,
• 20:11
  like
• 20:11
  Charles
• 20:11
  Koch
• 20:12
  and
• 20:12
  also
• 20:12
  Harlan
• 20:13
  Crowe,
• 20:13
  not
• 20:14
  famous
• 20:14
  then,
• 20:14
  very
• 20:15
  famous
• 20:15
  now.
• 20:16
  So
• 20:17
  he
• 20:17
  was
• 20:17
  one
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  the
• 20:17
  first
• 20:18
  beneficiaries
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  dark
• 20:19
  money
• 20:20
  influencing
• 20:20
  the
• 20:21
  appointment
• 20:21
  process
• 20:22
  for
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  Supreme
• 20:22
  Court.
• 20:23
  And
• 20:23
  so
• 20:23
  he
• 20:24
  has
• 20:24
  had
• 20:24
  no
• 20:24
  incentive
• 20:25
  to
• 20:25
  do
• 20:25
  anything
• 20:25
  about
• 20:25
  it.
• 20:25
  In
• 20:25
  fact,
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  would
• 20:27
  say
• 20:27
  to
• 20:27
  you
• 20:27
  and
• 20:28
  your
• 20:28
  listeners
• 20:28
  that
• 20:29
  when
• 20:29
  you
• 20:29
  look
• 20:29
  at
• 20:30
  what
• 20:30
  John
• 20:30
  Roberts
• 20:30
  did
• 20:31
  around
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  immunity
• 20:31
  decision,
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  unprecedented
• 20:34
  counter
• 20:35
  constitutional
• 20:36
  creation
• 20:37
  of
• 20:37
  immunity
• 20:37
  from
• 20:38
  criminal
• 20:38
  prosecution
• 20:38
  for
• 20:39
  Donald
• 20:40
  Trump.
• 20:41
  John
• 20:41
  Roberts
• 20:42
  needed
• 20:42
  Sam
• 20:42
  Alito
• 20:43
  and
• 20:43
  Clarence
• 20:44
  Thomas
• 20:44
  to
• 20:44
  be
• 20:45
  part
• 20:45
  of
• 20:45
  those
• 20:45
  decisions,
• 20:46
  or
• 20:46
  he
• 20:47
  risked
• 20:47
  Amy
• 20:47
  Coney
• 20:48
  Barrett
• 20:48
  swinging
• 20:49
  to
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  other
• 20:49
  side.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:50
  so
• 20:51
  you
• 20:51
  have
• 20:51
  two
• 20:51
  men,
• 20:52
  Clarence
• 20:52
  Thomas,
• 20:53
  whose
• 20:53
  wife
• 20:53
  was
• 20:54
  demonstrably
• 20:55
  that.
• 20:55
  We
• 20:55
  have
• 20:55
  ample
• 20:55
  evidence
• 20:56
  that
• 20:56
  she
• 20:57
  was
• 20:57
  actively
• 20:57
  contacting
• 20:58
  the
• 20:59
  White
• 20:59
  House
• 20:59
  Chief
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  staff,
• 21:00
  Mark
• 21:00
  Meadows,
• 21:00
  trying
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  subvert
• 21:01
  that
• 21:01
  election,
• 21:02
  stop
• 21:02
  the
• 21:02
  recount
• 21:03
  from
• 21:03
  happening.
• 21:03
  We
• 21:03
  know
• 21:04
  that
• 21:04
  from
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  Washington
• 21:04
  Post
• 21:04
  reporting
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  we
• 21:06
  know
• 21:06
  from
• 21:06
  other
• 21:06
  reporting
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  she
• 21:07
  was
• 21:07
  actively
• 21:08
  soliciting
• 21:08
  fake
• 21:09
  electors
• 21:10
  in
• 21:10
  Arizona
• 21:11
  and
• 21:11
  in
• 21:11
  Wisconsin,
• 21:12
  sending
• 21:12
  emails
• 21:13
  urging
• 21:14
  those
• 21:14
  state
• 21:14
  reps.
• 21:15
  And
• 21:15
  yet
• 21:16
  Clarence.
• 21:16
  Thomas
• 21:16
  refuses
• 21:17
  to
• 21:17
  recuse
• 21:18
  himself.
• 21:18
  Yes,
• 21:19
  he
• 21:19
  takes
• 21:19
  gifts
• 21:19
  of
• 21:20
  big
• 21:20
  RV
• 21:20
  campers,
• 21:21
  real
• 21:21
  estate
• 21:21
  for
• 21:21
  his
• 21:21
  mom's
• 21:22
  house,
• 21:22
  expensive
• 21:22
  trips
• 21:23
  on
• 21:23
  private
• 21:23
  planes.
• 21:24
  Is
• 21:24
  it
• 21:24
  fair
• 21:24
  to
• 21:24
  say
• 21:25
  he's
• 21:25
  taking
• 21:25
  bribes?
• 21:26
  I
• 21:27
  think
• 21:27
  that
• 21:27
  it's
• 21:28
  definitely
• 21:28
  intended
• 21:28
  to
• 21:29
  influence
• 21:29
  him
• 21:29
  by
• 21:29
  keeping
• 21:30
  him
• 21:30
  on
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  court.
• 21:30
  Because
• 21:31
  what
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  ProPublica
• 21:32
  reporters
• 21:32
  uncovered
• 21:33
  in
• 21:33
  their
• 21:33
  Pulitzer
• 21:34
  Prize
• 21:34
  winning
• 21:35
  investigation
• 21:35
  from
• 21:36
  two
• 21:36
  years
• 21:36
  ago,
• 21:37
  what
• 21:37
  they
• 21:37
  uncovered
• 21:38
  was
• 21:38
  that
• 21:38
  in
• 21:38
  1999,
• 21:39
  2000,
• 21:40
  Clarence
• 21:41
  Thomas
• 21:41
  was
• 21:41
  complaining
• 21:41
  that
• 21:42
  he
• 21:42
  wasn't
• 21:42
  living
• 21:43
  the
• 21:43
  lifestyle
• 21:44
  to
• 21:44
  which
• 21:44
  he
• 21:44
  wanted
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  be
• 21:45
  accustomed.
• 21:46
  And
• 21:46
  he
• 21:46
  was
• 21:47
  threatening
• 21:47
  to
• 21:47
  quit,
• 21:47
  to
• 21:48
  resign,
• 21:48
  to
• 21:48
  go
• 21:49
  take
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  job
• 21:50
  as
• 21:50
  a
• 21:50
  partner
• 21:50
  at
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  law
• 21:51
  firm
• 21:51
  and
• 21:52
  cash
• 21:52
  out.
• 21:52
  And
• 21:53
  then
• 21:53
  all
• 21:53
  of
• 21:53
  a
• 21:53
  sudden,
• 21:54
  there
• 21:54
  was
• 21:54
  all
• 21:54
  this.
• 21:55
  All
• 21:55
  these
• 21:55
  trips
• 21:55
  started
• 21:56
  coming
• 21:56
  in,
• 21:57
  all
• 21:57
  these
• 21:57
  benefits
• 21:58
  started
• 21:58
  coming
• 21:58
  in
• 21:58
  to
• 21:59
  keep
• 21:59
  him
• 21:59
  basically
• 22:00
  on
• 22:00
  the
• 22:00
  court,
• 22:00
  where
• 22:00
  he
• 22:00
  gets
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  live
• 22:01
  the
• 22:02
  lifestyle
• 22:02
  of
• 22:02
  a
• 22:03
  billionaire,
• 22:03
  specifically
• 22:04
  Harlan
• 22:04
  Crow,
• 22:04
  but
• 22:04
  also
• 22:05
  hang
• 22:05
  out,
• 22:05
  rub
• 22:06
  elbows
• 22:06
  with
• 22:06
  Charles
• 22:06
  Koch
• 22:07
  and
• 22:07
  other
• 22:07
  billionaires
• 22:08
  at
• 22:09
  secret
• 22:09
  men's
• 22:10
  clubs
• 22:10
  and
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  like.
• 22:11
  So
• 22:11
  you
• 22:11
  have
• 22:11
  John
• 22:12
  Roberts
• 22:12
  not
• 22:12
  insisting
• 22:14
  that
• 22:14
  Clarence
• 22:14
  Thomas
• 22:15
  recuse
• 22:15
  himself
• 22:15
  from
• 22:15
  cases
• 22:16
  where
• 22:16
  he's
• 22:16
  clearly
• 22:17
  conflicted
• 22:17
  due
• 22:17
  to
• 22:17
  his
• 22:18
  wife's
• 22:18
  activity,
• 22:19
  but
• 22:19
  also
• 22:19
  where
• 22:20
  he
• 22:20
  himself
• 22:20
  is
• 22:21
  conflicted.
• 22:21
  So
• 22:22
  that
• 22:22
  Citizens
• 22:23
  United
• 22:23
  decision
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  you
• 22:24
  mentioned,
• 22:24
  which
• 22:24
  has
• 22:24
  just
• 22:25
  had
• 22:25
  such
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  devastating
• 22:26
  effect
• 22:27
  on
• 22:27
  our
• 22:27
  democracy,
• 22:28
  injecting
• 22:28
  billions
• 22:29
  of
• 22:29
  dollars
• 22:29
  into
• 22:30
  our
• 22:30
  elections
• 22:31
  by
• 22:31
  billionaires,
• 22:32
  trying
• 22:32
  to
• 22:32
  drown
• 22:33
  out
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  voices
• 22:33
  of
• 22:33
  ordinary
• 22:34
  people
• 22:35
  and
• 22:35
  also
• 22:35
  distort
• 22:36
  their
• 22:36
  voices,
• 22:37
  basically
• 22:37
  ply
• 22:38
  them
• 22:38
  with
• 22:38
  propaganda.
• 22:39
  What
• 22:40
  happened
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  that
• 22:40
  Citizen
• 22:41
  United
• 22:41
  case
• 22:41
  is
• 22:41
  an
• 22:42
  absolute
• 22:42
  scandal.
• 22:43
  In
• 22:43
  that
• 22:44
  ruling.
• 22:44
  Clarence
• 22:45
  Thomas
• 22:45
  sat
• 22:46
  on
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  case.
• 22:46
  It
• 22:46
  was
• 22:46
  a
• 22:47
  5
• 22:47
  to
• 22:47
  4
• 22:47
  ruling.
• 22:48
  Just
• 22:49
  weeks
• 22:49
  before
• 22:49
  that
• 22:50
  decision
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  issued,
• 22:51
  Jenny
• 22:52
  Thomas
• 22:52
  received
• 22:53
  $500,000
• 22:55
  from
• 22:56
  Harlan
• 22:56
  Crow
• 22:57
  to
• 22:58
  stake
• 22:59
  her
• 22:59
  nonprofit,
• 23:00
  a
• 23:00
  501C4
• 23:01
  nonprofit
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  she
• 23:02
  was
• 23:02
  creating
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  take
• 23:03
  advantage
• 23:04
  of,
• 23:05
  of
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  decision
• 23:05
  to
• 23:06
  come
• 23:06
  by
• 23:06
  the
• 23:06
  Citizens
• 23:07
  United
• 23:07
  in
• 23:07
  that
• 23:08
  City
• 23:08
  United
• 23:08
  case,
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  allow
• 23:09
  these
• 23:10
  C4
• 23:11
  groups,
• 23:11
  this
• 23:11
  dark
• 23:12
  money
• 23:12
  operation,
• 23:12
  to
• 23:13
  really
• 23:13
  proceed.
• 23:14
  So
• 23:14
  on
• 23:14
  New
• 23:15
  Year's
• 23:15
  Eve,
• 23:16
  she
• 23:16
  rushed
• 23:16
  an
• 23:17
  emergency
• 23:17
  LLC
• 23:19
  request
• 23:19
  to
• 23:19
  The
• 23:19
  Virginia
• 23:20
  Corporation
• 23:20
  Council,
• 23:21
  because
• 23:21
  she
• 23:21
  needed
• 23:21
  to
• 23:22
  cash
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  check.
• 23:23
  There's
• 23:23
  no
• 23:24
  scenario
• 23:24
  in
• 23:24
  which
• 23:24
  Jenny
• 23:25
  Thomas
• 23:25
  did
• 23:25
  not
• 23:26
  tell
• 23:26
  Clarence
• 23:26
  Thomas
• 23:27
  that
• 23:27
  their
• 23:27
  benefactor,
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  man
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  had
• 23:28
  been
• 23:29
  bankrolling
• 23:29
  them
• 23:30
  for
• 23:31
  luxury
• 23:31
  trips
• 23:31
  to
• 23:32
  his
• 23:32
  resorts
• 23:32
  and
• 23:33
  his
• 23:33
  super
• 23:33
  yacht
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  his
• 23:35
  super
• 23:35
  private
• 23:35
  plane,
• 23:36
  that
• 23:36
  he
• 23:37
  didn't
• 23:37
  know
• 23:37
  that
• 23:37
  she
• 23:37
  got
• 23:38
  $500,000
• 23:39
  to
• 23:39
  fund
• 23:39
  this
• 23:40
  organization.
• 23:40
  He
• 23:41
  did
• 23:41
  not
• 23:41
  recuse
• 23:42
  himself.
• 23:42
  He
• 23:42
  was
• 23:42
  the
• 23:43
  swing
• 23:43
  vote.
• 23:43
  Had
• 23:43
  he
• 23:44
  recused
• 23:44
  himself,
• 23:44
  it
• 23:45
  would
• 23:45
  have
• 23:45
  been
• 23:45
  a
• 23:45
  4
• 23:45
  to
• 23:46
  4
• 23:46
  decision
• 23:47
  that
• 23:47
  would
• 23:47
  have
• 23:47
  left
• 23:48
  the
• 23:48
  campaign
• 23:48
  finance
• 23:49
  laws
• 23:49
  in
• 23:50
  place.
• 23:51
  And
• 23:51
  Thomas
• 23:51
  had
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  audacity,
• 23:52
  Clarence
• 23:53
  Thomas,
• 23:53
  to
• 23:54
  write
• 23:54
  a
• 23:54
  concurring
• 23:55
  opinion
• 23:55
  in
• 23:55
  which
• 23:55
  he
• 23:56
  claimed
• 23:57
  that
• 23:57
  under
• 23:57
  the
• 23:57
  new
• 23:57
  precedent
• 23:58
  of
• 23:58
  Citizen
• 23:58
  United,
• 23:59
  banding
• 23:59
  on
• 23:59
  the
• 24:00
  notion
• 24:00
  that
• 24:00
  money
• 24:00
  is
• 24:01
  speech,
• 24:01
  anything
• 24:02
  that
• 24:02
  chills
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  spending
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  money
• 24:04
  is
• 24:04
  unconstitutional.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:06
  so
• 24:06
  he
• 24:06
  affirmatively
• 24:07
  attacked
• 24:08
  disclosure
• 24:09
  because
• 24:09
  disclosure
• 24:10
  of
• 24:10
  who
• 24:11
  was
• 24:11
  giving
• 24:11
  money
• 24:11
  to
• 24:12
  these
• 24:12
  C4
• 24:12
  groups
• 24:13
  would
• 24:13
  chill
• 24:14
  the
• 24:14
  spending
• 24:14
  of
• 24:14
  money.
• 24:15
  Knowing
• 24:16
  that
• 24:16
  his
• 24:17
  wife
• 24:17
  had
• 24:17
  just
• 24:18
  received
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  half
• 24:18
  a
• 24:19
  million
• 24:19
  dollars
• 24:20
  from
• 24:20
  his
• 24:20
  billionaire
• 24:21
  backer.
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  always
• 24:22
  thought
• 24:22
  of
• 24:22
  Citizens
• 24:23
  United
• 24:23
  as
• 24:23
  being
• 24:24
  oligarchs
• 24:25
  untied,
• 24:27
  right?
• 24:27
  Yes.
• 24:29
  Really?
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  mean,
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  call
• 24:30
  it
• 24:30
  Billionaires
• 24:30
  United,
• 24:31
  but
• 24:31
  I
• 24:31
  like
• 24:31
  billionaires
• 24:32
  untied.
• 24:32
  Jenny
• 24:33
  Thomas
• 24:33
  had
• 24:34
  a
• 24:34
  high
• 24:34
  paying
• 24:35
  job
• 24:35
  at
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  Heritage
• 24:35
  Foundation's
• 24:36
  executive
• 24:37
  branch
• 24:37
  liaison.
• 24:38
  She
• 24:38
  was
• 24:38
  given
• 24:38
  this
• 24:39
  high
• 24:39
  paying
• 24:39
  role
• 24:39
  after
• 24:40
  her
• 24:40
  husband
• 24:41
  cast
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  tiebreaking
• 24:42
  vote
• 24:42
  on
• 24:42
  Bush
• 24:42
  v.
• 24:43
  Gore.
• 24:43
  So
• 24:43
  these
• 24:43
  people
• 24:44
  are
• 24:44
  institutionally
• 24:45
  corrupt.
• 24:45
  Yes.
• 24:46
  Scalia
• 24:47
  died
• 24:47
  in
• 24:47
  his
• 24:47
  sleep
• 24:47
  at
• 24:48
  a
• 24:48
  rich
• 24:48
  man's
• 24:48
  retreat
• 24:49
  in
• 24:49
  Texas.
• 24:49
  Did
• 24:50
  that
• 24:50
  raise
• 24:50
  eyebrows?
• 24:52
  It
• 24:52
  really
• 24:52
  did.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:53
  there
• 24:53
  were
• 24:53
  requests
• 24:53
  and
• 24:54
  questions
• 24:54
  raised
• 24:54
  by
• 24:55
  members
• 24:55
  of
• 24:55
  Congress
• 24:55
  about
• 24:56
  who
• 24:56
  was
• 24:56
  paying
• 24:57
  for
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  trip
• 24:58
  and
• 24:58
  whether
• 24:58
  they
• 24:58
  had
• 24:59
  any
• 24:59
  business
• 24:59
  with
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  court.
• 25:00
  You
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:01
  Scalia
• 25:01
  is
• 25:01
  someone
• 25:02
  who
• 25:02
  really
• 25:03
  in
• 25:03
  some
• 25:03
  ways,
• 25:03
  was
• 25:04
  a
• 25:04
  model,
• 25:04
  and
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  say
• 25:05
  that
• 25:05
  word
• 25:05
  loosely,
• 25:06
  but
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  model
• 25:07
  for
• 25:07
  Clarence
• 25:08
  Thomas
• 25:08
  in
• 25:09
  this
• 25:09
  Gift
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  Palooza,
• 25:10
  where
• 25:10
  basically
• 25:11
  Scalia
• 25:11
  would
• 25:12
  solicit
• 25:12
  trips
• 25:13
  from
• 25:13
  wealthy
• 25:14
  businessmen
• 25:14
  to
• 25:15
  fund
• 25:15
  his
• 25:16
  hunting
• 25:17
  habits,
• 25:17
  his
• 25:17
  shooting
• 25:18
  habits.
• 25:18
  And
• 25:19
  one
• 25:19
  of
• 25:19
  the
• 25:19
  things
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  people
• 25:20
  don't
• 25:20
  know
• 25:20
  about
• 25:21
  Scalia,
• 25:21
  not
• 25:21
  just
• 25:22
  his
• 25:22
  penchant
• 25:22
  for
• 25:22
  these
• 25:23
  free
• 25:23
  gifts
• 25:23
  of
• 25:23
  trips
• 25:24
  from
• 25:24
  very,
• 25:25
  very
• 25:25
  rich
• 25:25
  people,
• 25:26
  is
• 25:26
  that
• 25:27
  the
• 25:27
  year
• 25:27
  before
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  ruling
• 25:29
  changing
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  interpretation
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  second
• 25:31
  Amendment
• 25:32
  to
• 25:32
  assert
• 25:32
  that
• 25:33
  it
• 25:33
  protects
• 25:33
  an
• 25:33
  individual
• 25:34
  right
• 25:34
  to
• 25:35
  bear
• 25:35
  arms
• 25:35
  rather
• 25:36
  than
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  collective
• 25:36
  right.
• 25:37
  Yes.
• 25:37
  Scalia
• 25:38
  was
• 25:38
  on
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  trip
• 25:39
  with
• 25:39
  gun
• 25:40
  advocates,
• 25:41
  very
• 25:41
  well
• 25:41
  placed
• 25:41
  gun
• 25:42
  advocates,
• 25:42
  to
• 25:43
  go
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  international
• 25:44
  version
• 25:44
  of
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  National
• 25:45
  Rifle
• 25:45
  Association,
• 25:47
  National
• 25:47
  Sports
• 25:48
  Shooting
• 25:48
  association,
• 25:49
  where
• 25:49
  Scalia
• 25:50
  was
• 25:50
  named
• 25:51
  the
• 25:51
  international
• 25:52
  ambassador
• 25:53
  for
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  shooting
• 25:54
  community
• 25:55
  and
• 25:55
  received
• 25:55
  a
• 25:56
  gift
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  a
• 25:56
  gun.
• 25:57
  And
• 25:57
  at
• 25:57
  that
• 25:57
  meeting,
• 25:58
  he
• 25:58
  told
• 25:59
  those
• 25:59
  gun
• 26:00
  rights
• 26:00
  advocates
• 26:01
  who
• 26:01
  were
• 26:01
  traveling
• 26:02
  with
• 26:02
  him
• 26:03
  that
• 26:03
  if
• 26:03
  the
• 26:04
  Supreme
• 26:04
  Court
• 26:04
  accepted
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  petition
• 26:06
  for
• 26:07
  cert
• 26:07
  on
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  case
• 26:08
  involving
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  Second
• 26:09
  Amendment
• 26:09
  that
• 26:10
  was
• 26:10
  coming
• 26:10
  out
• 26:10
  of
• 26:10
  D.C.
• 26:10
  the
• 26:11
  Heller
• 26:11
  case,
• 26:11
  that
• 26:12
  would
• 26:12
  mean
• 26:13
  that
• 26:13
  they
• 26:13
  had
• 26:13
  the
• 26:14
  votes,
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  five
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  four
• 26:15
  votes
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  overturn
• 26:17
  more
• 26:17
  than
• 26:17
  a
• 26:17
  century
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  precedent
• 26:19
  about
• 26:19
  reasonable
• 26:20
  regulations
• 26:20
  of
• 26:20
  our
• 26:20
  gun
• 26:21
  laws.
• 26:21
  He
• 26:21
  didn't
• 26:21
  call
• 26:21
  them
• 26:21
  reasonable
• 26:22
  regulations,
• 26:22
  of
• 26:22
  course,
• 26:23
  but
• 26:23
  he
• 26:23
  basically
• 26:23
  signaled
• 26:24
  that
• 26:24
  when
• 26:24
  this
• 26:25
  right
• 26:25
  wing
• 26:26
  majority
• 26:27
  on
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  court
• 26:27
  that's
• 26:28
  now
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  super
• 26:28
  majority,
• 26:29
  when
• 26:29
  they
• 26:29
  accept
• 26:30
  a
• 26:30
  case,
• 26:30
  it
• 26:31
  basically
• 26:31
  means
• 26:31
  that
• 26:32
  they
• 26:32
  have
• 26:32
  the
• 26:32
  votes
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  change
• 26:33
  the
• 26:34
  law
• 26:34
  in
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  direction
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  they
• 26:35
  want.
• 26:36
  Brett
• 26:36
  Kavanaugh,
• 26:37
  that
• 26:37
  had
• 26:37
  to
• 26:37
  be
• 26:37
  one
• 26:37
  of
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  most
• 26:38
  disgraceful
• 26:39
  nomination
• 26:40
  processes
• 26:40
  ever,
• 26:42
  where
• 26:42
  you
• 26:42
  had
• 26:42
  someone
• 26:42
  spitting
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  crying
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  hearing,
• 26:44
  saying,
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  like
• 26:45
  beer.
• 26:46
  How
• 26:46
  did
• 26:47
  we
• 26:47
  sink
• 26:47
  this
• 26:47
  low?
• 26:48
  Well,
• 26:48
  this
• 26:48
  was
• 26:48
  really
• 26:49
  grassly
• 26:49
  in
• 26:49
  the
• 26:50
  Republican
• 26:50
  Party.
• 26:50
  And
• 26:50
  Donald
• 26:51
  Trump,
• 26:51
  because
• 26:51
  why
• 26:52
  would
• 26:52
  Donald
• 26:52
  Trump
• 26:52
  withdraw
• 26:53
  a
• 26:53
  nominee
• 26:54
  who's
• 26:54
  been
• 26:54
  accused
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  sexual
• 26:55
  assault
• 26:55
  when
• 26:55
  he
• 26:55
  himself
• 26:56
  has
• 26:56
  been
• 26:56
  accused
• 26:56
  of
• 26:57
  sexual
• 26:57
  assault
• 26:57
  and
• 26:57
  subsequently
• 26:58
  was
• 26:59
  found
• 26:59
  in
• 26:59
  the
• 27:00
  E.
• 27:00
  Jean
• 27:00
  Carroll
• 27:00
  case
• 27:01
  to
• 27:01
  have
• 27:01
  committed
• 27:01
  sexual
• 27:02
  abuse
• 27:03
  and
• 27:03
  then
• 27:03
  smeared
• 27:04
  her
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  defamed
• 27:05
  her?
• 27:05
  This
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  someone
• 27:06
  in
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  president
• 27:07
  who,
• 27:07
  who
• 27:07
  is
• 27:07
  nominated
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  forced
• 27:09
  through
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  confirmation
• 27:09
  of
• 27:10
  Pete
• 27:10
  Hegseth,
• 27:10
  who
• 27:11
  was
• 27:11
  accused
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  sexually
• 27:12
  assaulting
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  woman,
• 27:13
  settled
• 27:13
  that
• 27:13
  case
• 27:13
  without
• 27:13
  an
• 27:14
  admission
• 27:14
  of
• 27:14
  responsibility
• 27:15
  for
• 27:16
  doing
• 27:16
  so.
• 27:17
  And
• 27:17
  we've
• 27:17
  seen
• 27:18
  other
• 27:18
  allegations
• 27:19
  of
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  like.
• 27:19
  But
• 27:19
  regarding
• 27:20
  Brett
• 27:20
  Kavanaugh,
• 27:21
  not
• 27:21
  only
• 27:22
  was
• 27:22
  it
• 27:22
  just,
• 27:22
  it
• 27:23
  revealed
• 27:23
  his
• 27:24
  character,
• 27:24
  it
• 27:24
  revealed
• 27:25
  his,
• 27:26
  his
• 27:26
  anger
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  his
• 27:27
  nature.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  so
• 27:28
  much
• 27:29
  so
• 27:29
  that
• 27:29
  Justice
• 27:30
  Stevens,
• 27:31
  who
• 27:31
  had
• 27:31
  previously
• 27:32
  endorsed
• 27:32
  him,
• 27:32
  this
• 27:32
  was
• 27:32
  a.
• 27:33
  Ford's
• 27:33
  nominee
• 27:33
  to
• 27:34
  the
• 27:34
  US
• 27:34
  Supreme
• 27:34
  Court,
• 27:35
  withdrew
• 27:35
  his
• 27:36
  endorsement
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  Kavanaugh
• 27:37
  for
• 27:37
  his
• 27:37
  behavior.
• 27:38
  But
• 27:38
  what
• 27:38
  was
• 27:39
  happening
• 27:39
  behind
• 27:39
  the
• 27:39
  scenes
• 27:40
  is
• 27:40
  even
• 27:40
  more
• 27:40
  astonishing
• 27:42
  because
• 27:42
  what
• 27:42
  we
• 27:42
  learned
• 27:43
  subsequently,
• 27:43
  and
• 27:44
  this
• 27:44
  was
• 27:44
  due
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  efforts
• 27:45
  of
• 27:45
  Senator
• 27:46
  Sheldon
• 27:46
  Whitehouse
• 27:47
  and
• 27:47
  others,
• 27:47
  what
• 27:48
  we
• 27:48
  learned
• 27:48
  subsequently
• 27:48
  was
• 27:49
  that
• 27:50
  basically
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  Trump
• 27:51
  administration
• 27:52
  made
• 27:52
  an
• 27:52
  agreement
• 27:53
  with
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  Republicans
• 27:54
  on
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  Senate
• 27:55
  that
• 27:55
  if
• 27:55
  they
• 27:55
  would
• 27:56
  basically
• 27:56
  allow
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  FBI
• 27:57
  to
• 27:58
  look
• 27:58
  into
• 27:59
  whether
• 27:59
  there
• 27:59
  was
• 27:59
  corroborating
• 28:00
  evidence
• 28:00
  or
• 28:01
  other
• 28:01
  allegations
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  sexual
• 28:02
  assault
• 28:02
  or
• 28:03
  sexual
• 28:03
  misconduct
• 28:03
  by
• 28:04
  Brett
• 28:04
  Kavanaugh,
• 28:05
  that
• 28:05
  they
• 28:05
  would
• 28:05
  be
• 28:05
  examined.
• 28:06
  And
• 28:06
  what
• 28:06
  really
• 28:07
  happened,
• 28:07
  what
• 28:07
  we
• 28:07
  know
• 28:08
  subsequently,
• 28:08
  is
• 28:09
  that
• 28:10
  the
• 28:10
  FBI
• 28:10
  didn't
• 28:11
  look
• 28:11
  into
• 28:12
  any
• 28:12
  of
• 28:12
  them,
• 28:12
  didn't
• 28:13
  follow
• 28:13
  up
• 28:13
  on
• 28:14
  any
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  those
• 28:14
  allegations,
• 28:15
  didn't
• 28:16
  ask
• 28:16
  for
• 28:16
  any
• 28:16
  of
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  corroboration,
• 28:18
  sent
• 28:18
  the
• 28:18
  materials
• 28:19
  over
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  the
• 28:19
  White
• 28:20
  House,
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  White
• 28:20
  House
• 28:21
  counsel's
• 28:21
  office,
• 28:21
  to
• 28:22
  Don
• 28:22
  McGahn.
• 28:23
  And
• 28:23
  Don
• 28:23
  McGahn
• 28:24
  threw
• 28:24
  them
• 28:24
  away,
• 28:25
  basically
• 28:25
  threw
• 28:26
  them
• 28:26
  in
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  trash.
• 28:26
  There
• 28:26
  was
• 28:26
  no
• 28:27
  investigation
• 28:28
  to
• 28:28
  follow
• 28:28
  up
• 28:28
  on
• 28:29
  all
• 28:29
  the
• 28:29
  people
• 28:29
  who
• 28:30
  were
• 28:30
  coming
• 28:30
  out
• 28:30
  in
• 28:30
  news
• 28:31
  stories
• 28:32
  saying
• 28:32
  that
• 28:33
  they
• 28:33
  had
• 28:33
  experienced
• 28:34
  or
• 28:34
  they'd
• 28:34
  seen
• 28:35
  sexual
• 28:35
  misconduct
• 28:35
  by
• 28:36
  Brett
• 28:36
  Kavanaugh.
• 28:37
  And
• 28:37
  so
• 28:37
  you
• 28:37
  had
• 28:37
  a
• 28:38
  complete
• 28:38
  whitewash,
• 28:39
  just
• 28:39
  a
• 28:40
  Total
• 28:40
  subversion
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  the
• 28:41
  FBI
• 28:42
  background
• 28:42
  investigation
• 28:43
  process.
• 28:44
  I'm
• 28:44
  familiar
• 28:44
  with
• 28:44
  that.
• 28:45
  When
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  worked
• 28:45
  at
• 28:45
  the
• 28:46
  Justice
• 28:46
  Department,
• 28:46
  I
• 28:47
  was
• 28:47
  the
• 28:48
  lead
• 28:48
  counsel
• 28:48
  for
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  working
• 28:49
  group
• 28:49
  on
• 28:49
  judicial
• 28:50
  nominations.
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  used
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  review
• 28:51
  the
• 28:51
  FBI
• 28:52
  files
• 28:52
  of
• 28:52
  potential
• 28:53
  nominees,
• 28:54
  just
• 28:54
  go
• 28:54
  back
• 28:54
  to
• 28:55
  their
• 28:55
  18th
• 28:55
  birthday
• 28:56
  and
• 28:56
  look
• 28:56
  into
• 28:56
  whether
• 28:56
  there's
• 28:57
  any
• 28:58
  crimes
• 28:58
  or
• 28:58
  allegations
• 28:59
  of
• 28:59
  criminal
• 29:00
  activity,
• 29:01
  whether
• 29:01
  they
• 29:01
  have
• 29:01
  blackmailability
• 29:02
  issues
• 29:03
  and
• 29:03
  the
• 29:03
  like.
• 29:05
  Were
• 29:05
  they
• 29:05
  significant
• 29:06
  debt,
• 29:06
  like
• 29:06
  somehow
• 29:07
  buying
• 29:07
  a
• 29:07
  bunch
• 29:07
  of
• 29:08
  tickets
• 29:08
  for
• 29:08
  baseball
• 29:09
  games
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  getting
• 29:10
  cash
• 29:10
  from
• 29:10
  your
• 29:10
  friends,
• 29:11
  paying
• 29:12
  off
• 29:12
  loans
• 29:12
  mysteriously.
• 29:13
  But
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  FBI
• 29:14
  did
• 29:14
  no
• 29:15
  follow
• 29:15
  up
• 29:15
  investigation
• 29:16
  in
• 29:16
  response
• 29:16
  to
• 29:17
  the
• 29:17
  allegations
• 29:17
  of
• 29:17
  Dr.
• 29:18
  Christine
• 29:18
  Blasey
• 29:18
  Ford,
• 29:19
  who
• 29:19
  took
• 29:19
  the.
• 29:20
  Same
• 29:20
  hit
• 29:20
  Anita
• 29:20
  Hill
• 29:21
  took.
• 29:21
  Yeah,
• 29:22
  her
• 29:22
  life
• 29:22
  was
• 29:23
  threatened
• 29:23
  over
• 29:23
  and
• 29:24
  over
• 29:24
  for
• 29:25
  daring
• 29:25
  to
• 29:25
  testify
• 29:26
  about
• 29:26
  what
• 29:27
  she
• 29:27
  experienced.
• 29:28
  I
• 29:28
  think
• 29:28
  she
• 29:28
  testified
• 29:29
  compellingly
• 29:29
  under
• 29:29
  oath.
• 29:30
  And
• 29:30
  yet,
• 29:31
  like
• 29:31
  you
• 29:31
  said,
• 29:32
  it
• 29:32
  is
• 29:32
  genuinely
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  scandal
• 29:34
  that
• 29:34
  this
• 29:34
  man,
• 29:35
  Brett
• 29:35
  Kavanaugh,
• 29:36
  is
• 29:36
  on
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  Supreme
• 29:37
  Court.
• 29:37
  I
• 29:38
  actually
• 29:38
  wrote
• 29:38
  a
• 29:38
  piece
• 29:39
  right
• 29:39
  after
• 29:40
  he
• 29:40
  was
• 29:40
  nominated
• 29:41
  and
• 29:41
  his
• 29:41
  hearings
• 29:42
  began
• 29:43
  saying
• 29:43
  that
• 29:43
  he
• 29:43
  should
• 29:44
  not
• 29:44
  be
• 29:44
  confirmed,
• 29:45
  he
• 29:45
  should
• 29:45
  be
• 29:45
  impeached
• 29:46
  from
• 29:46
  the
• 29:47
  D.C.
• 29:47
  circuit
• 29:47
  for
• 29:48
  lying
• 29:48
  under
• 29:48
  oath
• 29:49
  to
• 29:49
  Congress
• 29:50
  about
• 29:50
  files
• 29:51
  that
• 29:51
  have
• 29:51
  been
• 29:51
  stolen
• 29:51
  from
• 29:52
  me
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  were
• 29:53
  in
• 29:53
  his
• 29:53
  possession.
• 29:54
  But
• 29:55
  not
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  make
• 29:55
  it
• 29:55
  all
• 29:55
  about
• 29:56
  me,
• 29:56
  because
• 29:57
  it's
• 29:57
  about
• 29:57
  what's
• 29:57
  happening
• 29:57
  in
• 29:58
  our
• 29:58
  country.
• 29:58
  The
• 29:59
  fact
• 29:59
  of
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  matter
• 29:59
  is,
• 29:59
  is
• 29:59
  that
• 30:00
  neither
• 30:00
  Brett
• 30:00
  Kavanaugh
• 30:01
  nor
• 30:01
  Clarence
• 30:02
  Thomas
• 30:02
  should
• 30:03
  be
• 30:03
  on
• 30:03
  the
• 30:03
  Supreme
• 30:04
  Court
• 30:04
  based
• 30:05
  on
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  very
• 30:05
  credible
• 30:06
  testimony
• 30:07
  of
• 30:07
  women
• 30:08
  about
• 30:08
  how
• 30:08
  they
• 30:09
  were
• 30:09
  treated
• 30:09
  by
• 30:10
  those
• 30:10
  men.
• 30:10
  And
• 30:10
  Kavanaugh
• 30:11
  lied
• 30:11
  under
• 30:11
  oath,
• 30:12
  too.
• 30:12
  He
• 30:12
  said
• 30:12
  that
• 30:12
  he
• 30:13
  would
• 30:13
  not
• 30:13
  overturn
• 30:13
  precedent.
• 30:14
  And
• 30:15
  of
• 30:15
  course
• 30:15
  they
• 30:15
  did
• 30:15
  with
• 30:16
  Roe
• 30:16
  v.
• 30:16
  Wade
• 30:16
  through
• 30:17
  the
• 30:17
  Dobbs
• 30:17
  decision,
• 30:18
  among
• 30:18
  other
• 30:18
  things.
• 30:19
  Another
• 30:20
  big
• 30:20
  issue
• 30:20
  is
• 30:20
  gerrymandering
• 30:21
  and
• 30:21
  conflicts
• 30:22
  of
• 30:22
  interest.
• 30:22
  And
• 30:23
  that
• 30:23
  Sam
• 30:23
  Alito
• 30:23
  blatantly
• 30:24
  constituted
• 30:25
  racial
• 30:25
  gerrymandering.
• 30:26
  He
• 30:26
  disregarded
• 30:27
  factual
• 30:27
  findings
• 30:27
  of
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  lower
• 30:28
  court
• 30:28
  by
• 30:29
  overturning
• 30:29
  a
• 30:29
  lower
• 30:30
  court.
• 30:30
  Alito
• 30:31
  should
• 30:31
  have
• 30:31
  recused
• 30:31
  himself
• 30:32
  when
• 30:33
  he
• 30:33
  was
• 30:33
  flying
• 30:33
  that
• 30:34
  upside
• 30:34
  down
• 30:34
  flag
• 30:35
  during
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  insurrection,
• 30:36
  the
• 30:37
  appeal
• 30:37
  to
• 30:37
  heaven
• 30:37
  flag.
• 30:38
  I
• 30:38
  mean,
• 30:38
  here
• 30:39
  we
• 30:39
  had
• 30:39
  an
• 30:39
  Associate
• 30:39
  justice
• 30:40
  of
• 30:40
  the
• 30:40
  Supreme
• 30:40
  Court
• 30:40
  of
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  United
• 30:41
  States
• 30:41
  flying
• 30:42
  an
• 30:42
  insurrectionist
• 30:43
  flag
• 30:44
  and
• 30:45
  then
• 30:45
  denying
• 30:45
  it.
• 30:46
  How
• 30:46
  does
• 30:46
  this
• 30:46
  happen?
• 30:47
  And
• 30:47
  how
• 30:47
  do
• 30:47
  they
• 30:48
  stay
• 30:48
  in
• 30:48
  power?
• 30:48
  Part
• 30:49
  of
• 30:49
  what's
• 30:49
  happened
• 30:49
  is
• 30:50
  that
• 30:50
  you
• 30:50
  have
• 30:50
  a
• 30:51
  U.S.
• 30:51
  supreme
• 30:52
  Court
• 30:52
  led
• 30:52
  by
• 30:52
  John
• 30:53
  Roberts
• 30:53
  that
• 30:53
  has
• 30:54
  blocked
• 30:54
  every
• 30:55
  effort
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  have
• 30:56
  an
• 30:56
  enforceable
• 30:57
  ethics
• 30:57
  code.
• 30:57
  And
• 30:58
  so
• 30:58
  every
• 30:58
  time
• 30:58
  Congress
• 30:58
  has
• 30:59
  raised
• 30:59
  those
• 30:59
  issues
• 31:00
  correct,
• 31:00
  Roberts
• 31:00
  has
• 31:01
  assailed
• 31:01
  that.
• 31:02
  In
• 31:02
  fact,
• 31:02
  right
• 31:03
  before
• 31:03
  the
• 31:04
  U.S.
• 31:04
  senate
• 31:04
  Judiciary
• 31:05
  Committee
• 31:05
  was
• 31:05
  about
• 31:05
  to
• 31:06
  approve
• 31:06
  subpoenas
• 31:07
  for
• 31:07
  Harlan
• 31:07
  Crow
• 31:08
  and
• 31:08
  Leonard
• 31:08
  Leo
• 31:09
  regarding
• 31:09
  this
• 31:10
  gift
• 31:11
  and
• 31:11
  travel
• 31:11
  situation
• 31:12
  that
• 31:12
  reporters
• 31:12
  had
• 31:13
  uncovered.
• 31:14
  John
• 31:14
  Roberts
• 31:15
  made
• 31:15
  a
• 31:15
  public
• 31:15
  release
• 31:16
  saying
• 31:17
  there
• 31:17
  is
• 31:17
  an
• 31:17
  ethics
• 31:18
  code
• 31:18
  for
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  Supreme
• 31:19
  Court
• 31:19
  and
• 31:19
  every
• 31:20
  justice
• 31:20
  has
• 31:21
  signed
• 31:21
  saying
• 31:21
  that
• 31:21
  they
• 31:22
  follow
• 31:22
  it,
• 31:22
  which
• 31:22
  means.
• 31:23
  It
• 31:23
  means
• 31:23
  nothing
• 31:24
  given
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  billions
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  dollars
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  gifts
• 31:26
  that
• 31:26
  have
• 31:26
  come
• 31:26
  in
• 31:27
  to
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  benefit
• 31:27
  of
• 31:27
  Clarence
• 31:28
  Thomas
• 31:28
  and
• 31:28
  the
• 31:29
  non
• 31:29
  recusal
• 31:30
  that
• 31:30
  we've
• 31:31
  now
• 31:31
  seen
• 31:31
  of
• 31:32
  Alito,
• 31:33
  despite
• 31:33
  having
• 31:33
  those
• 31:34
  instructions,
• 31:34
  flags
• 31:35
  flying
• 31:35
  over
• 31:35
  his
• 31:36
  homes
• 31:36
  and
• 31:37
  more.
• 31:37
  And
• 31:38
  so
• 31:38
  John
• 31:38
  Roberts
• 31:38
  is
• 31:39
  complicit
• 31:40
  in
• 31:40
  all
• 31:40
  this,
• 31:40
  in
• 31:41
  trying
• 31:41
  to
• 31:42
  keep
• 31:42
  his
• 31:43
  Republican
• 31:43
  appointees
• 31:44
  safe
• 31:44
  on
• 31:45
  that
• 31:45
  court
• 31:45
  in
• 31:45
  order
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  continue
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  damage
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  law
• 31:48
  in
• 31:48
  this
• 31:48
  country,
• 31:48
  as
• 31:49
  with
• 31:49
  these
• 31:49
  cases
• 31:50
  on
• 31:50
  redistricting,
• 31:51
  on
• 31:51
  voting.
• 31:52
  One
• 31:52
  of
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  things
• 31:52
  about
• 31:52
  John
• 31:53
  Roberts
• 31:53
  that
• 31:53
  most
• 31:53
  people
• 31:54
  don't
• 31:54
  know
• 31:55
  is
• 31:55
  that
• 31:55
  he
• 31:56
  was
• 31:56
  basically
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  person
• 31:57
  who
• 31:58
  mentored
• 31:58
  with
• 31:58
  Bill
• 31:58
  Rehnquist.
• 31:59
  Bill
• 32:00
  Rehnquist
• 32:00
  was
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  Justice
• 32:01
  on
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  Supreme
• 32:02
  Court
• 32:02
  at
• 32:02
  the
• 32:02
  time.
• 32:02
  He
• 32:03
  was
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  Nixon
• 32:04
  appointee.
• 32:05
  But
• 32:05
  before
• 32:05
  that
• 32:06
  he
• 32:06
  was
• 32:06
  known
• 32:07
  for
• 32:07
  his
• 32:07
  role
• 32:07
  in
• 32:07
  the
• 32:08
  Republican
• 32:08
  Party
• 32:09
  in
• 32:09
  Arizona.
• 32:10
  And
• 32:10
  he
• 32:11
  helped
• 32:11
  implement
• 32:12
  a
• 32:12
  thing
• 32:12
  called
• 32:12
  Operation
• 32:13
  Eagle
• 32:13
  Eye,
• 32:14
  where
• 32:14
  he
• 32:15
  and
• 32:15
  other
• 32:16
  white
• 32:16
  Republicans
• 32:16
  would
• 32:17
  go
• 32:17
  to
• 32:17
  the
• 32:17
  black
• 32:17
  neighborhoods
• 32:18
  in
• 32:19
  Phoenix,
• 32:19
  in
• 32:20
  Bethune
• 32:20
  and
• 32:20
  other
• 32:21
  neighborhoods
• 32:21
  to
• 32:22
  have
• 32:22
  cameras
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  photograph
• 32:23
  voters.
• 32:24
  This
• 32:24
  was
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  the
• 32:25
  1960s
• 32:25
  where
• 32:25
  people
• 32:26
  were
• 32:26
  still
• 32:26
  being
• 32:26
  lynched.
• 32:27
  People
• 32:28
  had
• 32:28
  great,
• 32:28
  a
• 32:29
  great
• 32:29
  amount
• 32:29
  of
• 32:29
  fear
• 32:29
  about
• 32:30
  voting.
• 32:30
  And
• 32:30
  the
• 32:31
  Voting
• 32:31
  Rights
• 32:31
  act
• 32:31
  had
• 32:31
  just
• 32:32
  passed
• 32:32
  in
• 32:32
  1960.
• 32:33
  Roberts
• 32:34
  chose
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  clerk
• 32:35
  for
• 32:35
  Bill
• 32:35
  Rehnquist.
• 32:36
  The
• 32:36
  clerks
• 32:37
  on
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  court
• 32:37
  at
• 32:37
  that
• 32:38
  time,
• 32:38
  in
• 32:38
  1980,
• 32:39
  81,
• 32:40
  they
• 32:40
  remarked
• 32:41
  on
• 32:41
  how
• 32:41
  close
• 32:41
  they
• 32:42
  were
• 32:42
  on
• 32:42
  civil
• 32:43
  rights
• 32:43
  issues,
• 32:43
  meaning
• 32:44
  hostile
• 32:44
  to
• 32:44
  civil
• 32:45
  rights.
• 32:45
  And
• 32:46
  then
• 32:46
  what
• 32:46
  happened
• 32:47
  was
• 32:47
  Bill
• 32:47
  Rehnquist
• 32:48
  called
• 32:48
  the
• 32:48
  chief
• 32:49
  of
• 32:49
  staff
• 32:49
  for
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  Attorney
• 32:50
  General
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  United
• 32:50
  States,
• 32:51
  who
• 32:51
  was
• 32:51
  not
• 32:52
  then
• 32:52
  famous,
• 32:52
  a
• 32:52
  guy
• 32:52
  named
• 32:53
  Ken
• 32:53
  Starr,
• 32:53
  who
• 32:54
  became
• 32:54
  very
• 32:54
  famous.
• 32:55
  He
• 32:55
  called
• 32:55
  Ken
• 32:56
  Starr
• 32:56
  to
• 32:56
  get
• 32:56
  John
• 32:56
  Roberts
• 32:57
  a
• 32:57
  job
• 32:57
  at
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  top
• 32:58
  of
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  Justice
• 32:59
  Department
• 32:59
  advising
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  Attorney
• 33:00
  General
• 33:01
  of
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  United
• 33:01
  States.
• 33:02
  And
• 33:02
  he
• 33:02
  got
• 33:02
  him
• 33:03
  that
• 33:03
  job.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:03
  what
• 33:03
  was
• 33:04
  John
• 33:04
  Roberts
• 33:04
  job?
• 33:05
  It
• 33:05
  was
• 33:05
  to
• 33:05
  attack
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  Voting
• 33:07
  Rights
• 33:07
  act,
• 33:07
  to
• 33:08
  attack
• 33:08
  efforts
• 33:09
  by
• 33:09
  Congress
• 33:10
  to
• 33:10
  renew
• 33:11
  the
• 33:11
  Voting
• 33:11
  Rights
• 33:11
  act
• 33:12
  and
• 33:12
  repair
• 33:12
  a
• 33:12
  decision
• 33:13
  that
• 33:14
  John
• 33:14
  Roberts
• 33:15
  mentor
• 33:16
  had
• 33:16
  helped
• 33:16
  make
• 33:17
  on
• 33:17
  Section
• 33:18
  two
• 33:18
  of
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  Voting
• 33:18
  Rights
• 33:18
  Act.
• 33:19
  And
• 33:19
  what
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  Supreme
• 33:20
  Court,
• 33:20
  with
• 33:20
  Frankvist
• 33:21
  on
• 33:21
  board
• 33:22
  had
• 33:22
  done
• 33:22
  was
• 33:22
  try
• 33:22
  to
• 33:23
  gut
• 33:23
  Section
• 33:23
  two
• 33:23
  of
• 33:23
  the
• 33:24
  Voting
• 33:24
  Rights
• 33:24
  act
• 33:24
  to
• 33:24
  say
• 33:24
  that
• 33:25
  you
• 33:25
  couldn't
• 33:25
  look
• 33:26
  at
• 33:26
  the
• 33:26
  effects
• 33:26
  of
• 33:27
  a
• 33:27
  map
• 33:27
  if
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  couldn't
• 33:28
  look
• 33:28
  at
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  effects
• 33:29
  of
• 33:29
  changing
• 33:29
  a
• 33:30
  map
• 33:30
  if
• 33:30
  it
• 33:30
  bleached
• 33:31
  out
• 33:31
  black
• 33:31
  voting,
• 33:32
  if
• 33:32
  it
• 33:32
  diluted
• 33:33
  black
• 33:33
  voting,
• 33:33
  you
• 33:33
  could
• 33:33
  only
• 33:34
  look
• 33:34
  at
• 33:34
  the
• 33:34
  intent,
• 33:34
  whether
• 33:35
  someone
• 33:35
  said
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  N
• 33:36
  word,
• 33:36
  basically.
• 33:37
  And
• 33:37
  Congress
• 33:37
  knew
• 33:38
  that
• 33:38
  was
• 33:38
  wrong.
• 33:38
  Congress
• 33:39
  knew
• 33:39
  that
• 33:39
  that
• 33:39
  would
• 33:40
  destroy
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  Voting
• 33:40
  Rights
• 33:41
  act
• 33:41
  if
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  could
• 33:41
  not
• 33:41
  take
• 33:42
  into
• 33:42
  account
• 33:42
  the
• 33:43
  effects.
• 33:44
  And
• 33:44
  so
• 33:44
  Congress
• 33:45
  repaired
• 33:45
  it
• 33:45
  over
• 33:45
  John
• 33:46
  Roberts
• 33:46
  strenuous
• 33:47
  objections.
• 33:47
  He
• 33:47
  spent
• 33:48
  hundreds
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  hours
• 33:49
  fighting
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  renewal
• 33:50
  of
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  Voting
• 33:51
  Rights
• 33:51
  act
• 33:51
  and
• 33:51
  the
• 33:51
  repair
• 33:52
  of
• 33:52
  that
• 33:53
  damage.
• 33:53
  And
• 33:54
  then
• 33:54
  just
• 33:54
  this
• 33:55
  spring,
• 33:55
  just
• 33:56
  weeks
• 33:56
  ago,
• 33:57
  John
• 33:57
  Roberts
• 33:58
  handed
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  pin
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  Sam
• 33:59
  Alito
• 34:00
  to
• 34:00
  put
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  dagger
• 34:01
  in
• 34:01
  the
• 34:01
  back
• 34:02
  of
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  Voting
• 34:02
  Rights
• 34:02
  act
• 34:03
  on
• 34:03
  this
• 34:03
  very
• 34:04
  section,
• 34:04
  section
• 34:05
  2
• 34:05
  of
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  Voting
• 34:05
  Rights
• 34:06
  act
• 34:06
  to
• 34:06
  bar
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  effects
• 34:07
  from
• 34:08
  being
• 34:08
  taken
• 34:08
  into
• 34:08
  account,
• 34:09
  to
• 34:10
  show
• 34:10
  a
• 34:10
  violation
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  the
• 34:11
  Voting
• 34:11
  Rights
• 34:11
  act,
• 34:11
  the
• 34:11
  very
• 34:12
  issue
• 34:12
  he
• 34:13
  knows
• 34:13
  with
• 34:13
  every
• 34:14
  bone
• 34:14
  in
• 34:14
  his
• 34:15
  body
• 34:15
  he
• 34:16
  lost
• 34:16
  as
• 34:16
  a
• 34:16
  lawyer.
• 34:17
  And
• 34:17
  now
• 34:18
  he's
• 34:18
  using
• 34:18
  the
• 34:18
  court
• 34:19
  to
• 34:19
  win
• 34:20
  in
• 34:20
  a
• 34:20
  way
• 34:20
  that
• 34:21
  demonstrably
• 34:22
  hurts
• 34:22
  the
• 34:22
  American
• 34:23
  people.
• 34:23
  Revenge.
• 34:24
  Our
• 34:25
  guest
• 34:25
  today
• 34:25
  is
• 34:25
  Lisa
• 34:25
  Graves,
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  author
• 34:26
  of
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  national
• 34:27
  best
• 34:27
  selling
• 34:27
  book
• 34:27
  Without
• 34:28
  How
• 34:28
  Chief
• 34:29
  Justice
• 34:29
  Roberts
• 34:30
  and
• 34:30
  His
• 34:30
  Accomplices
• 34:30
  Rewrote
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  Constitution
• 34:32
  and
• 34:32
  Dismantled
• 34:32
  Our
• 34:33
  Rights
• 34:33
  in
• 34:33
  the
• 34:33
  Time
• 34:33
  we
• 34:33
  have
• 34:34
  left.
• 34:34
  Lisa,
• 34:34
  why
• 34:35
  do
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  suppose
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  American
• 34:36
  public
• 34:36
  seems
• 34:37
  to
• 34:37
  be
• 34:37
  disinterested
• 34:38
  or
• 34:39
  oblivious
• 34:39
  to
• 34:39
  this?
• 34:40
  Well,
• 34:40
  for
• 34:40
  a
• 34:41
  long
• 34:41
  time
• 34:41
  there
• 34:42
  was
• 34:42
  this
• 34:42
  notion
• 34:43
  by
• 34:43
  some
• 34:43
  Democrats
• 34:44
  that
• 34:44
  people
• 34:44
  weren't
• 34:45
  paying
• 34:45
  attention
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  the
• 34:46
  courts,
• 34:46
  that
• 34:47
  it
• 34:47
  was
• 34:47
  inside
• 34:47
  baseball
• 34:48
  to
• 34:48
  fight
• 34:48
  with
• 34:48
  the
• 34:48
  court.
• 34:49
  The
• 34:49
  Republicans
• 34:49
  did
• 34:49
  not
• 34:50
  take
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  approach.
• 34:50
  The
• 34:50
  Republicans
• 34:51
  took
• 34:51
  the
• 34:52
  approach
• 34:52
  that
• 34:52
  they
• 34:52
  didn't
• 34:52
  want
• 34:53
  neutral
• 34:53
  judges.
• 34:53
  They
• 34:53
  wanted
• 34:54
  players
• 34:55
  on
• 34:55
  the
• 34:55
  chessboard
• 34:56
  who
• 34:56
  were
• 34:56
  going
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  move
• 34:56
  the
• 34:56
  ball
• 34:57
  forward.
• 34:57
  And
• 34:57
  Democrats
• 34:58
  were
• 34:59
  just
• 34:59
  trying
• 34:59
  to
• 34:59
  have
• 34:59
  neutral
• 35:00
  and
• 35:00
  fair
• 35:00
  judges,
• 35:01
  which
• 35:01
  means
• 35:01
  you're
• 35:02
  not
• 35:02
  putting
• 35:02
  a
• 35:02
  lot
• 35:02
  of
• 35:03
  political
• 35:03
  capital
• 35:03
  into
• 35:04
  those
• 35:04
  fights.
• 35:05
  But
• 35:05
  that
• 35:05
  has
• 35:06
  changed.
• 35:06
  There's
• 35:07
  been
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  growing
• 35:07
  awareness
• 35:08
  among
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  Democrats
• 35:09
  about
• 35:09
  what's
• 35:09
  been
• 35:09
  happening
• 35:10
  starting
• 35:10
  in
• 35:10
  the
• 35:10
  early
• 35:11
  2000s
• 35:11
  and
• 35:12
  up
• 35:12
  to
• 35:12
  now
• 35:12
  in
• 35:12
  terms
• 35:12
  of
• 35:13
  this
• 35:13
  effort
• 35:13
  to
• 35:13
  capture
• 35:14
  the
• 35:14
  court.
• 35:15
  The
• 35:15
  other
• 35:15
  thing
• 35:15
  that's
• 35:15
  happened
• 35:16
  that
• 35:16
  has
• 35:16
  been
• 35:16
  amazing
• 35:17
  and
• 35:18
  so
• 35:18
  changing
• 35:19
  is
• 35:20
  investigative
• 35:20
  reporters
• 35:21
  have
• 35:21
  started
• 35:21
  covering
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  court.
• 35:22
  Previously
• 35:23
  there
• 35:23
  were
• 35:23
  like
• 35:24
  legacy
• 35:24
  reporters,
• 35:25
  famous
• 35:25
  names,
• 35:26
  people
• 35:26
  who
• 35:26
  built
• 35:27
  their
• 35:27
  reputation
• 35:27
  in
• 35:28
  part
• 35:28
  on
• 35:28
  friendships
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  connections
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  Supreme
• 35:31
  Court
• 35:31
  justices,
• 35:32
  talking
• 35:32
  about
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  court,
• 35:33
  but
• 35:33
  normalizing
• 35:34
  it
• 35:34
  in
• 35:34
  a
• 35:34
  way
• 35:35
  and
• 35:35
  not
• 35:35
  actually
• 35:36
  conducting
• 35:36
  investigations.
• 35:37
  Their
• 35:37
  job
• 35:37
  to
• 35:38
  be
• 35:38
  fair
• 35:38
  to
• 35:38
  them
• 35:38
  wasn't
• 35:39
  investigative
• 35:39
  reporting,
• 35:40
  but
• 35:41
  began
• 35:41
  a
• 35:41
  few
• 35:41
  years
• 35:41
  ago,
• 35:42
  real
• 35:42
  investigative,
• 35:43
  Investigative
• 35:43
  reporting
• 35:43
  by
• 35:44
  ProPublica,
• 35:44
  by
• 35:45
  the
• 35:45
  Washington
• 35:45
  Post,
• 35:45
  New
• 35:46
  York
• 35:46
  Times,
• 35:46
  by
• 35:47
  Rolling
• 35:47
  Stone
• 35:48
  and
• 35:48
  Politico.
• 35:49
  And
• 35:49
  that
• 35:49
  investigative
• 35:50
  reporting
• 35:50
  changed
• 35:51
  things
• 35:51
  because
• 35:51
  it
• 35:52
  uncovered
• 35:53
  these
• 35:53
  scandals,
• 35:54
  it
• 35:54
  showed
• 35:54
  these
• 35:55
  biases,
• 35:55
  it
• 35:55
  helped
• 35:56
  reveal
• 35:56
  and
• 35:56
  unmask
• 35:57
  this
• 35:57
  dark
• 35:57
  money
• 35:57
  so
• 35:58
  that
• 35:58
  people
• 35:58
  could
• 35:58
  understand
• 35:59
  how
• 35:59
  this
• 35:59
  court
• 36:00
  was
• 36:00
  captured
• 36:01
  and
• 36:01
  what
• 36:01
  it
• 36:01
  meant
• 36:01
  for
• 36:02
  our
• 36:02
  rights.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:03
  as
• 36:03
  a
• 36:03
  consequence,
• 36:04
  over
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  last
• 36:05
  three
• 36:05
  years,
• 36:06
  public
• 36:06
  opinion
• 36:07
  of
• 36:07
  the
• 36:07
  US
• 36:07
  Supreme
• 36:08
  Court
• 36:08
  has
• 36:09
  plummeted.
• 36:09
  The
• 36:10
  support
• 36:10
  for
• 36:10
  John
• 36:11
  Roberts,
• 36:11
  the
• 36:11
  support
• 36:12
  for
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  court,
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  belief
• 36:13
  that
• 36:13
  it
• 36:13
  is
• 36:13
  fair
• 36:14
  is,
• 36:14
  is
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  lowest
• 36:15
  point
• 36:15
  it's
• 36:16
  been
• 36:16
  in
• 36:16
  history.
• 36:17
  And
• 36:17
  that
• 36:17
  disdain
• 36:18
  for
• 36:18
  the
• 36:18
  court
• 36:19
  is
• 36:19
  growing
• 36:19
  not
• 36:19
  just
• 36:20
  because
• 36:20
  of
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  Dobbs
• 36:20
  ruling
• 36:21
  that
• 36:21
  overturned
• 36:21
  Roe,
• 36:22
  not
• 36:22
  just
• 36:23
  because
• 36:23
  of
• 36:23
  the
• 36:23
  Immunity
• 36:23
  decision,
• 36:24
  not
• 36:24
  just
• 36:24
  because
• 36:24
  of
• 36:25
  23,
• 36:26
  24
• 36:26
  decisions
• 36:27
  in
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  past
• 36:27
  year
• 36:28
  giving
• 36:28
  Donald
• 36:29
  Trump
• 36:29
  the
• 36:29
  green
• 36:29
  light
• 36:30
  on
• 36:30
  all
• 36:30
  sorts
• 36:31
  of
• 36:31
  violations
• 36:31
  of
• 36:32
  our
• 36:32
  rights
• 36:32
  and
• 36:32
  our
• 36:33
  rules,
• 36:34
  but
• 36:34
  because
• 36:35
  there
• 36:35
  has
• 36:35
  also
• 36:36
  been
• 36:36
  this
• 36:36
  demonstrated
• 36:37
  scandal
• 36:38
  of
• 36:38
  how
• 36:39
  these
• 36:39
  Justices
• 36:39
  are
• 36:40
  living
• 36:40
  these
• 36:40
  very
• 36:40
  high
• 36:41
  lifestyles,
• 36:41
  how
• 36:41
  they're
• 36:42
  not
• 36:42
  recusing,
• 36:43
  how
• 36:43
  they're
• 36:43
  not
• 36:43
  being
• 36:44
  fair.
• 36:44
  And
• 36:44
  so
• 36:44
  we've
• 36:45
  never
• 36:45
  had
• 36:46
  more
• 36:46
  support
• 36:47
  than
• 36:47
  now
• 36:48
  for
• 36:48
  reforming
• 36:48
  the
• 36:49
  court.
• 36:49
  So
• 36:49
  we
• 36:50
  have
• 36:50
  some
• 36:50
  hope.
• 36:50
  We
• 36:51
  have
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  undo
• 36:51
  so
• 36:52
  much
• 36:52
  damage.
• 36:53
  Gun
• 36:53
  control,
• 36:53
  the
• 36:54
  Chevron
• 36:54
  decision,
• 36:55
  the
• 36:55
  Dobbs
• 36:56
  decision,
• 36:57
  voting.
• 36:58
  There
• 36:58
  are
• 36:58
  efforts
• 36:59
  being
• 36:59
  made
• 36:59
  on
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  Hill
• 37:00
  to
• 37:00
  reel
• 37:01
  this
• 37:01
  in.
• 37:02
  Basically,
• 37:02
  it's
• 37:02
  this
• 37:03
  tsunami
• 37:03
  of
• 37:03
  dark
• 37:04
  money.
• 37:04
  How
• 37:04
  do
• 37:05
  we
• 37:05
  stop
• 37:06
  this
• 37:06
  influence
• 37:07
  peddling
• 37:07
  that
• 37:08
  has
• 37:08
  completely
• 37:08
  consumed
• 37:09
  Washington
• 37:10
  D.C.
• 37:11
  unless
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  Democrats
• 37:12
  take
• 37:12
  control
• 37:12
  of
• 37:13
  Congress,
• 37:13
  what
• 37:13
  hope
• 37:14
  do
• 37:14
  we
• 37:14
  have?
• 37:15
  There
• 37:15
  are
• 37:16
  a
• 37:16
  number
• 37:16
  of
• 37:16
  Democrats,
• 37:17
  including
• 37:17
  Senator
• 37:17
  Whitehouse,
• 37:18
  Representative
• 37:19
  Raskin,
• 37:19
  a
• 37:20
  growing
• 37:20
  number
• 37:20
  on
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  House
• 37:20
  and
• 37:21
  Senate
• 37:21
  side
• 37:21
  who
• 37:21
  have
• 37:21
  put
• 37:22
  forward
• 37:22
  these
• 37:22
  reform
• 37:23
  measures,
• 37:23
  including,
• 37:24
  as
• 37:24
  you
• 37:24
  mentioned,
• 37:24
  Senator
• 37:25
  Schumer
• 37:26
  in
• 37:26
  terms
• 37:26
  of
• 37:26
  the
• 37:26
  no
• 37:26
  Kings
• 37:27
  Act.
• 37:27
  So
• 37:28
  there's
• 37:28
  actually
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  robust
• 37:29
  and
• 37:29
  growing
• 37:29
  call
• 37:30
  for
• 37:30
  both
• 37:30
  the
• 37:31
  substantive
• 37:31
  reform
• 37:31
  of
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  law
• 37:32
  and
• 37:33
  for
• 37:33
  reforming
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  court.
• 37:34
  And
• 37:34
  not
• 37:35
  just
• 37:35
  around
• 37:35
  the
• 37:35
  edges.
• 37:36
  Because
• 37:36
  the
• 37:36
  reality
• 37:37
  is,
• 37:37
  is
• 37:38
  that
• 37:38
  this
• 37:38
  court,
• 37:38
  this
• 37:39
  Roberts
• 37:39
  Court,
• 37:39
  will
• 37:39
  continue
• 37:40
  to
• 37:40
  destroy
• 37:40
  our
• 37:41
  rights,
• 37:41
  including
• 37:41
  our
• 37:42
  voting
• 37:42
  rights,
• 37:43
  unless
• 37:43
  we
• 37:43
  reform
• 37:44
  the
• 37:44
  court
• 37:44
  and
• 37:44
  limit
• 37:45
  its
• 37:45
  jurisdiction,
• 37:46
  limit
• 37:46
  its
• 37:46
  power
• 37:47
  and
• 37:47
  limit,
• 37:48
  have
• 37:48
  term
• 37:48
  limits
• 37:48
  and
• 37:49
  have
• 37:49
  other
• 37:49
  things,
• 37:49
  because
• 37:50
  this
• 37:50
  Court
• 37:51
  has
• 37:51
  shown
• 37:51
  how
• 37:51
  hostile
• 37:52
  it
• 37:52
  is
• 37:52
  to
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  Voting
• 37:53
  Rights
• 37:53
  Act.
• 37:53
  So
• 37:53
  we
• 37:54
  need
• 37:54
  to
• 37:54
  build
• 37:54
  that
• 37:55
  momentum
• 37:56
  with
• 37:56
  a
• 37:56
  Congress
• 37:56
  in
• 37:57
  the
• 37:57
  next
• 37:57
  two
• 37:57
  years
• 37:57
  that
• 37:58
  will
• 37:58
  investigate
• 37:59
  this
• 37:59
  Court,
• 38:00
  that
• 38:00
  will
• 38:00
  investigate
• 38:01
  that
• 38:01
  corruption,
• 38:01
  that
• 38:01
  will
• 38:02
  build
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  case
• 38:02
  for
• 38:03
  reform
• 38:03
  coming
• 38:03
  in
• 38:04
  to
• 38:04
  2028.
• 38:05
  And
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  hope
• 38:06
  in
• 38:07
  my
• 38:07
  personal
• 38:07
  capacity
• 38:08
  that
• 38:08
  there
• 38:09
  will
• 38:09
  be
• 38:09
  a
• 38:09
  President
• 38:09
  willing
• 38:10
  to
• 38:10
  sign
• 38:11
  what
• 38:11
  Congress
• 38:11
  passes
• 38:12
  to
• 38:12
  reform
• 38:13
  this
• 38:13
  court
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  limit
• 38:14
  its
• 38:14
  ability
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  harm
• 38:15
  our
• 38:15
  rights.
• 38:15
  You
• 38:16
  mean
• 38:16
  actually
• 38:16
  follow
• 38:16
  the
• 38:16
  law?
• 38:17
  Yeah.
• 38:17
  There's
• 38:18
  this
• 38:18
  idea,
• 38:18
  of
• 38:18
  course,
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  expanding
• 38:19
  the
• 38:19
  Court,
• 38:19
  which
• 38:20
  is
• 38:20
  not
• 38:20
  unprecedented,
• 38:21
  which
• 38:21
  could
• 38:21
  in
• 38:21
  effect
• 38:22
  go
• 38:22
  up
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  15
• 38:22
  and
• 38:23
  create
• 38:23
  a
• 38:23
  de
• 38:23
  facto
• 38:23
  attrition
• 38:24
  rate.
• 38:24
  And
• 38:24
  you
• 38:25
  wrote
• 38:25
  that
• 38:25
  to
• 38:25
  increase
• 38:25
  the
• 38:26
  size
• 38:26
  of
• 38:26
  the
• 38:26
  Court
• 38:26
  would
• 38:27
  also
• 38:27
  possibly
• 38:28
  include
• 38:28
  ensuring
• 38:28
  that
• 38:28
  each
• 38:29
  presidential
• 38:29
  term
• 38:30
  has
• 38:30
  at
• 38:30
  least
• 38:30
  one
• 38:30
  Supreme
• 38:31
  Court
• 38:31
  seat
• 38:31
  to
• 38:32
  fill
• 38:32
  to
• 38:32
  better
• 38:32
  represent
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  interests
• 38:34
  of
• 38:34
  the
• 38:34
  voters.
• 38:34
  You
• 38:35
  also
• 38:35
  talk
• 38:35
  about
• 38:35
  25
• 38:36
  year
• 38:36
  term
• 38:36
  limit
• 38:37
  because
• 38:37
  Roberts
• 38:37
  is
• 38:37
  still
• 38:38
  a
• 38:38
  relatively
• 38:39
  young
• 38:39
  guy.
• 38:40
  This
• 38:40
  guy
• 38:40
  could
• 38:41
  be
• 38:41
  doing
• 38:41
  what
• 38:41
  he's
• 38:41
  doing
• 38:41
  for
• 38:42
  another
• 38:42
  couple
• 38:42
  of
• 38:42
  decades.
• 38:43
  Terrifying.
• 38:44
  Is
• 38:44
  there
• 38:44
  any
• 38:44
  movement
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  impeach
• 38:46
  Roberts?
• 38:46
  There
• 38:47
  are.
• 38:47
  There
• 38:47
  have
• 38:48
  been
• 38:48
  members
• 38:48
  who
• 38:48
  have
• 38:49
  been
• 38:49
  working
• 38:49
  on
• 38:50
  a
• 38:50
  bill,
• 38:50
  particularly
• 38:51
  for
• 38:51
  John
• 38:51
  Roberts.
• 38:51
  There
• 38:52
  also
• 38:53
  was
• 38:53
  a
• 38:53
  bill
• 38:53
  introduced
• 38:54
  by
• 38:54
  AOC
• 38:55
  to
• 38:55
  impeach
• 38:56
  Sam
• 38:56
  Alito
• 38:57
  and
• 38:57
  Clarence
• 38:57
  Thomas.
• 38:58
  The
• 38:58
  term
• 38:59
  limit
• 38:59
  measure
• 39:00
  at
• 39:00
  15
• 39:00
  years
• 39:01
  or
• 39:01
  20
• 39:01
  years.
• 39:02
  If
• 39:02
  that
• 39:02
  went
• 39:02
  through
• 39:03
  15
• 39:03
  or
• 39:03
  20
• 39:04
  years,
• 39:04
  that
• 39:04
  would
• 39:05
  immediately
• 39:05
  remove
• 39:06
  Alito
• 39:07
  and
• 39:07
  Thomas
• 39:07
  and
• 39:08
  Roberts
• 39:09
  because
• 39:09
  of
• 39:09
  how
• 39:09
  long
• 39:09
  they've
• 39:10
  been
• 39:10
  on
• 39:10
  the
• 39:10
  court.
• 39:11
  And
• 39:11
  I
• 39:12
  think
• 39:12
  those
• 39:12
  terms
• 39:13
  should
• 39:13
  apply
• 39:13
  to
• 39:13
  the
• 39:13
  judiciary
• 39:14
  across
• 39:14
  the
• 39:14
  board.
• 39:15
  Trump
• 39:15
  is
• 39:15
  putting
• 39:16
  bloggers
• 39:16
  and
• 39:16
  people
• 39:17
  who
• 39:17
  are,
• 39:17
  like,
• 39:17
  in
• 39:17
  their
• 39:18
  30s
• 39:19
  on
• 39:19
  judicial
• 39:20
  position.
• 39:20
  People
• 39:20
  like
• 39:20
  Eileen
• 39:21
  Cannon
• 39:21
  who
• 39:21
  have
• 39:21
  not
• 39:22
  had
• 39:22
  any
• 39:22
  distinguished
• 39:23
  career
• 39:23
  at
• 39:23
  all,
• 39:23
  but
• 39:23
  have
• 39:24
  used
• 39:24
  that
• 39:24
  position
• 39:24
  of
• 39:25
  power
• 39:25
  to
• 39:25
  favor
• 39:26
  Donald
• 39:26
  Trump
• 39:26
  and
• 39:27
  try
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  twist
• 39:27
  the
• 39:28
  law
• 39:28
  in
• 39:28
  his
• 39:28
  direction.
• 39:29
  And
• 39:30
  so
• 39:30
  we
• 39:30
  need
• 39:30
  substantial
• 39:31
  reform.
• 39:32
  And
• 39:32
  that's
• 39:32
  one
• 39:32
  of
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  reasons
• 39:32
  why
• 39:33
  I'm
• 39:33
  so
• 39:33
  proud
• 39:34
  to
• 39:34
  have
• 39:34
  co
• 39:34
  founded
• 39:35
  Court
• 39:35
  Accountability
• 39:36
  with
• 39:36
  my
• 39:36
  work
• 39:37
  partner,
• 39:37
  Alex
• 39:37
  Aronson.
• 39:38
  And
• 39:39
  we
• 39:39
  are
• 39:39
  putting
• 39:39
  forward
• 39:40
  this
• 39:40
  summer
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  come
• 39:42
  a
• 39:42
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• 39:43
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• 39:45
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• 39:45
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• 39:46
  what
• 39:46
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• 39:46
  facing
• 39:47
  with
• 39:47
  real
• 39:48
  bold
• 39:49
  reforms
• 39:49
  to
• 39:50
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• 39:50
  our
• 39:50
  rights.
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• 39:51
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• 39:52
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• 39:52
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• 39:52
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• 39:53
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• 39:54
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• 39:54
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• 39:54
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  Lincoln,
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• 39:56
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• 39:58
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• 39:59
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• 40:04
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• 40:05
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  And
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• 40:11
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  our
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• 40:13
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  restore
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• 40:39
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• 40:40
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• 40:41
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• 40:48
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• 40:49
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• 40:50
  lives.
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  impeached,
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• 40:56
  impeachment
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  your
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  You
• 41:07
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  think
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  John
• 41:07
  Roberts
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  go
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  down
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  the
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  worst
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  chief
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  justice
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  in
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  American
• 41:10
  history.
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  The
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  deep
• 41:12
  destruction
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  he
• 41:12
  has
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  carved
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  through
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  our
• 41:13
  laws
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• 41:14
  democracy
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  ensures
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  grace
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  door
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  authoritarianism
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  in
• 41:20
  America.
• 41:22
  How
• 41:22
  can
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  people
• 41:22
  follow
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  you
• 41:23
  in
• 41:23
  your
• 41:23
  work?
• 41:24
  And
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  is
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  way
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  to
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  support
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• 41:27
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• 41:27
  so
• 41:27
  Court
• 41:27
  Accountability
• 41:29
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• 41:29
  the
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  do
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• 41:30
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• 41:31
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  court
• 41:31
  Policy.
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  accountability.
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• 42:02
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• 42:06
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• 42:07
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• 42:07
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• 42:08
  and
• 42:08
  Dismantled
• 42:09
  Our
• 42:09
  Rights.
• 42:10
  You
• 42:10
  can
• 42:10
  also
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  learn
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  more
• 42:11
  about
• 42:11
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• 42:12
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  Hope
• 42:15
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• 42:15
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• 42:15
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• 42:16
  so
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  let's
• 42:16
  choose
• 42:17
  it
• 42:17
  and
• 42:17
  take
• 42:17
  action.
• 42:18
  I'm
• 42:18
  Ted
• 42:18
  Bonnitt.
• 42:19
  I'm
• 42:19
  Phil
• 42:19
  Proctor.
• 42:20
  Thanks
• 42:20
  for
• 42:20
  listening.
• 42:20
  Take
• 42:21
  care.
• 42:21
  Bye
• 42:21
  for
• 42:21
  now.