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- 0:00Part one, the ninth stage. And I slept and dreamed again, and
- 0:07saw the same two pilgrims going down the mountains along the highway towards the city.
- 0:13Now a little below these mountains, on the left hand lieth the country
- 0:17of Conceit, from which country there comes into the way in which the pilgrims
- 0:22walked a little crooked lane. Here therefore they met with a very brisk lad
- 0:28that came out of that country. His name was Ignorance. So Christen asked
- 0:34him from what parts he came and whither he was going. Ignorance, sir,
- 0:41I was born in the country that lieth off there a little on the
- 0:45left hand, And I am going to the celestial city, Christian. But
- 0:51how do you think to get in at the gate? For you may find
- 0:54some difficulty there, Ignorance, as other good people do, said he Christian.
- 1:03But what have you to show at that gate that the gate should be
- 1:06open to you, Ignorance. I know my Lord's will and have been a
- 1:11good liver. I pay every man his own I pray fast, pay tides,
- 1:18and give alms, and have left my country for whither I am going,
- 1:23Christian. But thou camest not in at the wicket gate that is at
- 1:26the head of this way, Thou camest in hither through that same crooked lane.
- 1:33And therefore I fear, however thou mayst think of thyself, when the
- 1:37reckoning day shall come, thou wilt have laid to thy charge that thou art
- 1:42a thief and a robber instead of getting admittance into the city ignorance. Gentlemen,
- 1:51ye be utter strangers to me. I know you not be content to
- 1:56follow the religion of your country, and I will follow the religion of mine.
- 2:00I hope all will be well. And as for the gate that you
- 2:05talk of, all the world knows that it is a great way off of
- 2:07our country. I cannot think that any man in all our parts doth so
- 2:13much as know the way to it, Nor need they matter whether they do
- 2:16or no, since we have, as you see, a fine, pleasant,
- 2:21green lane that comes down from our country the next way into the way.
- 2:28When Christians saw that the man was wise in his own conceit, he
- 2:31said to hope, for whisperingly, there is more hope of a fool than
- 2:36of him Proverbs twenty six twelve. And said, moreover, when he that
- 2:43is a fool walketh by the way. His wisdom faileth him, and he
- 2:46saith to every one that he is a fool Ecclesiases ten three. What shall
- 2:54we talk farther with him, or outgo him at present? And so leave
- 2:59him to think of what he hath heard already, and then stop again for
- 3:01him afterwards, and see if by degrees we can do any good to him.
- 3:07Then said Hopeful, let ignorance a little while now muse on what is
- 3:13said, and let him not refuse good counsel to embrace, lest he remained
- 3:17still ignorant of what's the chiefest gain. God saith those that no understanding have,
- 3:23although he made them them, he will not save. Hopeful. He
- 3:30further added, it is not good, I think, to say so to
- 3:34him all at once. Let us pass him by, if you will,
- 3:37and talk to him anon, even as he is able to bear it.
- 3:42So they both went on in ignorance. He came after. Now, when
- 3:46they had passed him a little way, they entered into a very dark lane,
- 3:52where they met a man whom seven devils had bound with seven strong chords,
- 3:57and were carrying him back to the door that they saw on the side
- 4:00of the hill. Matthew twelve forty five Proverbs five twenty two. Now good
- 4:08Christian began to tremble, and so did hope for his companion. Yet as
- 4:13the devils led away, the man Christian looked to see if he knew him,
- 4:16and he thought it might be one turn away that dwelt in the town
- 4:19of Apostasy. But he did not perfectly see his face, for he did
- 4:25hang his head like a thief that is found. But being gone past Hopeful
- 4:30looked after him and spied on his back a paper with this inscription Wanton professor
- 4:38and damnable of Pastate. Then said Christian to his fellow. Now I call
- 4:45to remembrance that which was told me of a thing that happened to a good
- 4:48man hereabout the name of the man was little Faith, but a good man,
- 4:54and he dwelt in the town of Sincere. The thing was this at
- 4:59the entering at this passage they comes down from Broadway Gate, a lane called
- 5:03dead Man's Lane, so called because of the murders that are commonly done there.
- 5:09And this little Faith, going on pilgrimage as we do now, chanced
- 5:13to sit down there and sleep. Now they happened at that time to come
- 5:17down the lane from Broadway gate. Three sturdy rogues, and their names were
- 5:23faint Heart, Mistrust, and Guilt. Three brothers, and they a spying
- 5:28a little Faith where he was, came galloping up with speed. Now the
- 5:33good man was just awaked from his sleep and was getting up to go on
- 5:38his journey. So they came up all to him, and with threatening language
- 5:43bid him stand. At this Little Faith looked as white as a sheet,
- 5:47and had neither power to fight nor fly. Then said faint Heart, deliver
- 5:53thy purse. But he making no haste to do it, for he was
- 5:58loath to lose his money. Mistrust ran up to him, and, thrusting
- 6:01his hands into his pocket, pulled out thence a bag of silver. Then
- 6:06he cried out, thieves, thieves, with that Guilt, with a great
- 6:12club that was in his hand, struck Little Faith on the head, and
- 6:15with that blow felled him flat to the ground, where he lay, bleeding
- 6:19as one that would bleed to death. All this while the thieves stood by.
- 6:26But at last they, hearing that some were upon the road, and
- 6:30fearing lest it should be one great grace that dwells in the town of good
- 6:33Confidence, they betook themselves to their heels, and left this good man to
- 6:39shift for himself. Now, after a while little faith came to himself,
- 6:45and getting up, made shift to scramble on his way. This was the
- 6:49story, Hopeful. But did they take from him all that ever he had?
- 6:58Christian? No, the place where his jewels were they never ransacked,
- 7:02so those he kept still. But as I was told, the good man
- 7:08was much afflicted for his loss, for the thieves got most of his spending
- 7:12money. That which they got not, as I said, were jewels.
- 7:15Also, he had a little odd money left, but scarce enough to bring
- 7:19him to his journey's end. Nay, if I was not misinformed, he
- 7:24was forced to beg as he went to keep himself alive. For his jewels
- 7:29he might not sell, but bege and do what he could. He went,
- 7:31as we say, with many a hungry belly, the most part of
- 7:34the rest of the way First Peter four eighteen Hopeful. But is it not
- 7:43a wonder they got not from him his certificate by which he was to receive
- 7:46his admittance at the celestial gate Christian? It is a wonder, but they
- 7:54got not that though they missed it, not through any good cunning of his,
- 7:58for he, being dismayed by they coming upon him, had neither power
- 8:01nor skill to hide anything. So it was more by good providence than by
- 8:05his endeavor that they missed out on that good thing two Timothy one twelve to
- 8:11fourteen tewod Peter two nine hopeful, But it must needs be a comfort to
- 8:20him. They got not this jewel from him, Christian. It might have
- 8:26been a great comfort to him, had he used it as he should.
- 8:30But they that told me the story said that he made but little use of
- 8:33it all the rest of the way, and that because of the dismay that
- 8:37he had in their taking away his money, indeed he forgot it a great
- 8:41part of the rest of his journey. And besides, when at any time
- 8:46it came into his mind and he began to be comforted therewith, then would
- 8:50fresh thoughts of his loss come again upon him, and these thoughts would swallow
- 8:54up all hopeful las poor man. This could not but be a great grief
- 9:03to him, Christian grief I a grief. Indeed, would it not have
- 9:09been so to any of us had we been used as he to be robbed
- 9:13and wounded too? And that in a strange place as he was. It
- 9:18is a wonder he did not die with grief, poor heart. I was
- 9:22told that he scattered almost all the rest of the way with nothing but doleful
- 9:26and bitter complaints, telling also to all that overtook him, or that he
- 9:31overtook in the way as he went where he was robbed, and how who
- 9:35they were that did it, and what he had lost, how he was
- 9:39wounded, and that he hardly escaped with life hopeful. But it is a
- 9:48wonder that his necessity did not put him upon selling or pawning some of his
- 9:52jewels, that he might have wherewith to relieve himself in his journey. Christian
- 10:00talkest like one upon whose head is the shell, to this very day,
- 10:03for what should he pawn them? Or to whom should he sell them?
- 10:07In all that country where he was robbed, his jewels were not accounted of,
- 10:11nor did he want that relief which could from thence be administered to him.
- 10:16Besides, had his jewels been missing at the gate of the celestial city,
- 10:20he had, and that he knew well enough, been excluded from an
- 10:24inheritance there, and that would have been worse to him than the appearance and
- 10:28villainy of ten thousand thieves. Hopeful, why art thou so tart? My
- 10:35brother Esau sold his birthright, and that for a mess of pottage Hebrews twelve
- 10:43sixteen. And that birthright was his greatest jewel. And if he, why
- 10:48might not little Faith do so too? Christian Esau did sell his birthright indeed,
- 10:56and so do many besides, and by so doing exclude themselves from the
- 11:01chief blessing, as also that kitif did. But you must put a difference
- 11:05betwixt Esau and Little Faith, and also betwixt their estates. Esau's birthright was
- 11:13typical, but little Faith's jewels were not. So. Esau's belly was his
- 11:18god, but Little Faith's belly was not so. Esau's want lay in his
- 11:26fleshly appetite, little faiths did not. So. Besides, Esau could see
- 11:31no further than to the fulfilling of his lusts. For I am at the
- 11:35point to die, said he, And what good will this birthright do me?
- 11:39Genesis twenty five thirty two. But little Faith, though it was his
- 11:45lot to have. But a little Faith was by his little faith kept from
- 11:48such extravagances, and made to see and prize his jewels more than to sell
- 11:54them, as Esau did his birthright. You read not anywhere that Esau had
- 12:00faith, No, not so much as a little. Therefore, no marvel
- 12:03where the flesh only bears sway as it will in that man, where no
- 12:09faith is to resist if he sells his birthright and his soul and all,
- 12:13and that to the devil of hell. For it is with such as it
- 12:18is with the ass who, in her occasion cannot be turned away. Jeremiah
- 12:22too twenty four. When their minds are set upon their lusts, they will
- 12:28have them, whatever the cost. But little faith was of another temper.
- 12:33His mind was on things divine. His livelihood was upon things that were spiritual
- 12:39and from above. Therefore, to what end should he that is of such
- 12:43a temper sell his jewels had there been any that would have brought them to
- 12:48fill his mind with empty things? Will a man give a penny to fill
- 12:54his belly with hay? Or can you persuade the turtle dove to live upon
- 12:58carrion like the crow? Though faithless ones can for carn or lust, pawn
- 13:03or mortgage, or sell what they have and themselves outright to boot. Yet
- 13:07they that have faith saving faith, though but a little of it cannot do
- 13:13so here. Therefore, my brother, is thy mistake hopeful? I acknowledge
- 13:22it. But yet your severe reflection had almost made me angry Christian? Why
- 13:30I did but compare THEE to some of the birds that are of the brisker
- 13:33sort, who will run to and fro in untrodden paths with the shell upon
- 13:37their heads. But pass by that and consider the matter under debate, and
- 13:43all shall be well betwixt THEE and me Hopeful. But Christian, these three
- 13:50fellows, I am persuaded in my heart, are but a company of cowards?
- 13:54Would they have run else? Think you, as they did at the
- 13:58noise of one that was coming on the road. Why did not little faith
- 14:01pluck up a greater heart He might, methinks, have stood one brush with
- 14:05them, and have yielded when there had been no remedy. Christian, that
- 14:13they are cowards, many have said, but few have found it so in
- 14:16the time of trial. As for a great heart, little faith had none.
- 14:22And I perceive by THEE, my brother, hadst thou been the man
- 14:24concerned, Thou art but for a brush and then to yield, And verily,
- 14:30since this is the height of thy stomach. Now they are at a
- 14:33distance from us. Should they appear to THEE as they did to him,
- 14:37they might put THEE to second thoughts. But consider again that they are but
- 14:41journeymen thieves. They serve under the King of the bottomless Pit, who,
- 14:46if need be, will come to their aid himself and his voices as the
- 14:52roaring of a lion first Peter five eight. I myself have been engaged as
- 14:58this little faith was, and I found it a terrible thing. These three
- 15:03villains set upon me, and I beginning like a Christian to resist. They
- 15:07gave but a call, and in came their master. I would, as
- 15:11the saying is, have given my life for a penny, But that,
- 15:15as God would have it, I was clothed with armor of proof. Ay,
- 15:18and yet though I was so harnessed, I found it hard work to
- 15:22quit myself like a man. No man can tell what in that combat attends
- 15:26us, but he that hath been in the battle himself hopeful. Well,
- 15:33but they ran, you see when they did. But suppose that one great
- 15:37grace was in the way Christian. True, they have often fled, both
- 15:43they and their master, when great grace hath but appeared and no marvel,
- 15:46for he is the King's champion. But I trow you will put some difference
- 15:50between little Faith and the King's champion. All the king's subjects are not his
- 15:56champions, nor can they, when tried do such feats of war as he
- 16:00is. It meet to think that a little child should handle Goliath as David
- 16:04did, or that there should be the strength of an ox in a wren.
- 16:08Some are strong, some are weak, Some have great faith, some
- 16:12have little. This man was one of the weak, and therefore he went
- 16:18to the wall hopeful. I would it had been Great Grace for their sakes,
- 16:29Christian. If it had been he he might have had his hands full.
- 16:33For I must tell you that though Great Grace is excellent, good at
- 16:37his weapons, and has and can, so long as he keeps them at
- 16:40sword's point, do well enough with them. Yet if they get within him,
- 16:45even faintheart, mistrust or the other, it shall go hard. But
- 16:49they will throw up his heels. And when a man is down, you
- 16:52know what can he do. Whoso looks well upon Great Grace's face will see
- 16:57those scars and cuts them. That shall easily give demonstration of what I say.
- 17:03YEA once I heard that he should say, and that when he was
- 17:07in the combat, we despaired even of life. How did these sturdy rogues
- 17:11and their fellows make David groan, mourn and roar yea heman Psalms eighty eight.
- 17:18And Hezekiah too, though champions in their days were forced to bestir them
- 17:23when by these assaulted, And yet notwithstanding they had their coats soundly brushed by
- 17:32them. Peter upon a time would go try what he could do. But
- 17:36though some do say of him that he is the prince of the Apostles,
- 17:40they handled him so that they made him at last afraid of a sorry girl.
- 17:45Besides, their king is at their whistle. He is never out of
- 17:49hearing. And if at any time they be put to the worst, he,
- 17:53if possible, comes in to help them. And of him, it
- 17:57is said, the sword of him layeth at him, cannot hold the spear,
- 18:02the dart, nor the habitan. He esteemeth iron as straw, and
- 18:07brass as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him fly. Sling stones are
- 18:12turned with him into stubble, darts are counted as stubble. He laugheth at
- 18:18the shaking of a spear. Job forty one, twenty six to twenty nine.
- 18:23What can a man do in this case? It is true if a
- 18:27man could, at every turn have job's horse, and had skill and courage
- 18:32to ride him, he might denotable things. For his neck is clothed with
- 18:36thunder, he will not be afraid as a grasshopper. The glory of his
- 18:41nostrils is terrible. He poureth in the valley and rejoiceth in his strength.
- 18:47He goeth on to meet the armed man. He mocketh at fear, and
- 18:52is not affrighted. Neither turneth he back from the sword. The quiver rattleth
- 18:56against him, the glittering spear in the sheer. He swalloweth the ground with
- 19:02fierceness and rage. Neither believeth he that it is the sound of the trumpet.
- 19:07He saith among the trumpets, ha ha, And he smelleth the battle
- 19:11afar off the thunder of the captains and the shoutings. Jove thirty nine,
- 19:15nineteen to twenty five. But for such footmen as THEE and I are,
- 19:22let us never desire to meet with an enemy, nor waunt as if we
- 19:26could do better, when we hear of others that have been foiled nor be
- 19:30tickled at the thoughts of our own manhood, for such commonly come by the
- 19:33worst when tried. Witness Peter, of whom I made mention before he would
- 19:40swagger, Aye, he would, he would, as his vain mind prompted
- 19:44him to say, do better and stand more for his master than all men.
- 19:48But whoso foiled and run down by those villains as he. When therefore
- 19:56we hear that such robberies are done on the King's highway, two things become
- 20:00us to do. One to go out harnessed, and be sure to take
- 20:07a shield with us. For it was for want of that that he who
- 20:11laid so lustily at Leviathan could not make him yield. For indeed, if
- 20:15that be wanting, he fears us not at all. Therefore he that had
- 20:21skill had said, above all, take the shield of faith, wherewith you
- 20:25shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked Ephesians six sixteen
- 20:32two. It is good also that we desire of the king a convoy,
- 20:37yea, that he will go with us himself. This made David rejoice when
- 20:41in the valley of the Shadow of Death, and Moses was rather for dying,
- 20:44where he stood than to go one step without his God. Exodus thirty
- 20:49three fifteen, O, my brother, if he will but go along with
- 20:55us, what need we be afraid of ten thousands that shall set themselves against
- 20:59us? Psalm three five to eight, twenty seven one to three. But
- 21:06without him, the proud helpers fall under the slain Isaiah ten four. I,
- 21:12for my part, have been in the fray before now. And though
- 21:17through the goodness of Him that is best, I am, as you see
- 21:19alive. Yet I cannot boast of any manhood. Glad shall I be if
- 21:25I meet with no more such brunts? Though I fear we are not got
- 21:29beyond all danger. However, since the lion and the bear have not as
- 21:33yet devoured me, I hope God will also deliver us from the next uncircumcised
- 21:37philistine. Then sang Christian, poor little faith has been among the thieves was
- 21:45robbed. Remember this who so believes? And get more faith than shall you
- 21:51victors be over ten thousand, else scarce over thee. So they went on,
- 21:57and ignorance followed. They went, then till they came at a place
- 22:02where they saw a way put itself into their way, and seemed withal to
- 22:07lie as straight as the way which they should go. And here they knew
- 22:11not which of the two to take, for both seemed straight before them.
- 22:15Therefore, here they stood still to consider. And as they were thinking about
- 22:19the way, behold a man, black of flesh, but covered with a
- 22:23very light rode come to them and ask them why they stood there. They
- 22:27answered they were going to the celestial city, but knew not which of these
- 22:32ways to take. Follow me, said the man. It is thither that
- 22:36I am going. So they followed him in the way that, but now
- 22:41came into the road, which by degrees turned and turned them so far from
- 22:45the city that they desired to go to, that in a little time their
- 22:48faces were turned away from it. Yet they follow him, But by and
- 22:52by, before they were aware, he led them both within the compass of
- 22:56a net, in which they were both so entangled that they knew not what
- 23:00to do. And with that the white robe fell off the black man's back.
- 23:06Then they saw where they were. Wherefore there they lay crying some time,
- 23:10for they could not get themselves out. Christian then said Christian to his
- 23:15fellow, Now do I see myself in an error? Did not the shepherds
- 23:21bid us beware of the flatterer, as is the saying of the wise man.
- 23:26So we have found it this day. A man that flattereth his neighbor
- 23:30spreadeth a net for his feet Proverbs twenty nine five. Hopeful. They also
- 23:38gave us a note of directions about the way, for our more sure finding
- 23:42thereof. But therein we have also forgotten to read, and have not kept
- 23:48ourselves from the paths of the destroyer. Here David was wiser than we forsaith
- 23:53he concerning the works of men. By the word of thy lips, I
- 23:56have kept me from the paths of the destroyer Psalm seventeen four. Thus they
- 24:03lay bewailing themselves in the net. At last they aspired a shining one come
- 24:07towards them with a whip of small cords in his hand. When he was
- 24:12come to the place where they were, he asked them whence they came,
- 24:17and what they did there. They told him that they were poor pilgrims going
- 24:21to Zion, but were led out of their way by a black man clothed
- 24:25in white, who bid us, said they follow him, for he was
- 24:27going thither too. Then said he with the whip. It is flatterer,
- 24:34a false apostle that hath transformed himself into an angel of light Daniel eleven thirty
- 24:41two, Second Corinthians eleven thirteen and fourteen. So he rented the net and
- 24:47let the men out. Then said he to them, follow me, that
- 24:51I may set you in your way again. So he led them back to
- 24:53the way which they had left to follow the flatterer. Then he asked them,
- 24:59saying, where did you lie the last night? They said, with
- 25:03the shepherds, upon the delectable mountains. He asked them, then, if
- 25:07they had not of the shepherds a note of direction for the way. They
- 25:11answered yes. But did you not, said he, when you were at
- 25:15a stand, pluck out and read your note? They answered no. He
- 25:22asked them why. They said they forgot. He asked moreover, if the
- 25:26shepherds did not bid them beware of the flatterer. They answered yes, But
- 25:32we did not imagine, said they that this fine spoken man had been he
- 25:37Erman sixteenth seventeen and eighteen. Then I saw in my dream that he commanded
- 25:44them to lie down, which when they did, he chastised them sore,
- 25:48to teach them the good way wherein they should walk. Deuteronomy twenty five two
- 25:52second Chronicles six twenty seven. And as he chast ties them, he said,
- 26:00as many as I love, I rebuke and chasten be zealous therefore and
- 26:04repent Revelations three nineteen. This done, he bids them to go on their
- 26:11way and take good heed to the other directions of the shepherds. So they
- 26:15thanked him for all his kindness, and went softly along the right way,
- 26:19singing, come hither, you that walk along the way. See how the
- 26:25pilgrim's fare that go astray they catched are in an unentangling net because they good
- 26:30counsel lightly did forget. Tis true they rescued were, But yet you see
- 26:37they're scourged to boot. Let this your caution be now. After a while
- 26:42they perceived afar off one coming softly and alone, all along the highway to
- 26:47meet them. Then said Christian to his fellow, yonder is a man with
- 26:52his back towards Zion, and he is coming to meet us. Hopeful I
- 27:00see him. Let us take heed to ourselves now, lest he should prove
- 27:03a flatterer. Also, so he drew nearer and nearer, and at last
- 27:07came up to them. His name was Atheist, and he asked them whither
- 27:11they were going, Christian, we are going to Mount Zion. Then Atheist
- 27:18fell into a very great laughter. Christian. What's the meaning of your laughter,
- 27:26Atheist? I laugh to see what ignorant persons you are to take upon
- 27:30you so tedious a journey. And yet I like to have nothing but your
- 27:34travel for your pains. Christian, Why man, do you think we shall
- 27:41not be received? Atheist received? There is not such a place as you
- 27:47dream of in all this world, Christian, but there is in the world
- 27:52to come Atheist. When I was at home in mine own country, I
- 27:59heard as you now firm, and from that hearing went out to see and
- 28:03have been seeking this city these twenty years, but find no more of it
- 28:07than I did the first day I set out Ecclesiastes ten fifteen, Jeremiah seventeen
- 28:14fifteen. Christian, we have both heard and believe that there is such a
- 28:19place to be found, Atheist. Had not I, when at home,
- 28:26believed I had not come thus far to seek, but finding none? And
- 28:30yet I should had there been such a place to be found, For I
- 28:34have gone to seek it farther than you, and I'm going back again and
- 28:38will seek to refresh myself with the things that I then cast away for hopes
- 28:42of that which I now see is not Christian, then said Christian to hope
- 28:49for his companion. Is it true which this man hath said, hopeful?
- 28:56Take heed? He is one of the flatterers. Remember what it cost us
- 29:00once already for our hearkening to such kind of fellows? What no mount Zion
- 29:06did we not see from the delectable mountains the gate of the city. Also
- 29:10are we not now to walk by faith? Second Corinthians five seven. Let
- 29:15us go on, lest the man with the whip overtake us again. You
- 29:18should have taught me that lesson which I will sound you in the ears withal.
- 29:23Cease, my son to hear the instruction that causeth to earth from the
- 29:26words of knowledge Proverbs nineteen twenty seven. I say, my brother, cease
- 29:33to hear him, and let us believe to the saving of the soul.
- 29:38Christian, my brother, I did not put the question to THEE, for
- 29:44that I doubted of the truth of our belief myself, but to prove THEE
- 29:48and to fetch from THEE a fruit of the honesty of thy heart. As
- 29:52for this man, I know that he is blinded by the God of this
- 29:55world. Let thee and me go on, knowing that we have belief the
- 30:00truth and no lies of the truth. First John five twenty one. Hopeful,
- 30:08now do I rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. So
- 30:11they turned away from the man, and he, laughing at them, went
- 30:15his way. I then saw on my dream that they went on until they
- 30:21came into a certain country, whose air naturally tended to make one drowsy if
- 30:26he came a stranger into it. And here, Hopeful began to be very
- 30:30dull and heavy to sleep. Wherefore he said, unto Christian, I do
- 30:34now begin to grow so drowsy that I can scarcely hold open my eyes.
- 30:40Let us lie down here and take one nap, Christian, by no means
- 30:48said the other. Lest sleeping we never awake more Hopeful, Why, my
- 30:53brother, sleep is sweet to the laboring man. We may be refreshed if
- 30:59we take a nap. Christian, do you not remember that one of the
- 31:03shepherds bid us beware of the enchanted ground. He meant by that that we
- 31:08should beware of sleeping. Wherefore, let us not sleep as do others,
- 31:15but let us watch and be sober first Thessalonians five six. Hopeful, I
- 31:22acknowledge myself in a fault, and had I been here alone, I had,
- 31:26by sleeping run the danger of death. I see it is true that
- 31:30the wise man saith two are better than one Ecclesiastes four nine. Hitherto hath
- 31:37thy company been my mercy, and thou shalt have a good reward for thy
- 31:41labor. Christian. Now, then, said Christian, to prevent drowsiness in
- 31:48this place, let us fall into good discourse. Hopeful with all my heart,
- 31:55said the other Christian. Where shall we begin, hopeful where God began
- 32:01with us? But do you begin? If you please, Christian, I
- 32:07will sing you first this song when saints do sleepy grow, Let them come
- 32:13hither and hear how these two pilgrims talk together. Yea, let them learn
- 32:17of them in any wise, thus to keep ope their drowsy slumbering eyes.
- 32:23Saint's fellowship, if it be managed well, keeps them awake, and that
- 32:29in spite of hell. Then Christian began and said, I will ask you
- 32:34a question. How came you to think at first of doing what you do?
- 32:37Now? Hopeful? Do you mean? How came I at first?
- 32:43And look after the good of my soul. Christian. Yes, that is
- 32:47my meaning. Hopeful. I continued a great while in the delight of those
- 32:53things which were seen and sold at how fair, things which I believe now
- 32:58would have had I continued in them, still drowned me in perdition and destruction.
- 33:04Christian, What things were they, Hopeful, all the treasures and riches
- 33:09of the world. Also I delighted much in writing, reveling, drinking,
- 33:15swearing, lying, uncleanness, sabbath breaking, and what not that tended to
- 33:20destroy the soul. But I found at last by hearing and considering of things
- 33:24that are divine, which indeed I heard of you, as also of beloved
- 33:30Faithful that was put to death for his faith and good living in vanity.
- 33:34Fair, that the end of these things is death Romans six twenty one to
- 33:39twenty three. And that for these things sake the wrath of God cometh upon
- 33:45the children of disobedience Ephesians five six. Christian. And did you presently fall
- 33:52under the power of this conviction? Hopeful? No, I was not willing
- 33:58presently to know the evil of sin, nor the damnation that follows upon the
- 34:01commission of it. But endeavored when my mind at first began to be shaken
- 34:06with the word to shut mine eyes against the light thereof Christian. But what
- 34:13was the cause of your carrying of it thus to the first workings of God's
- 34:15blessed spirit upon you, Hopeful? The causes were one. I was ignorant
- 34:22that this was the work of God upon me. I never thought that by
- 34:27awakenings for sin, God at first begins the conversion of a sinner. Two.
- 34:32Sin was yet very sweet to my flesh, and I was loath to
- 34:37leave it. Three I could not tell how to part with mine old companions.
- 34:42Their presence and actions were so desirable unto me. Four the hours in
- 34:47which convictions were upon me were such troublesome and such heart affrighting hours that I
- 34:52could not bear know not so much as the remembrance of them upon my heart.
- 34:59Christian. Then, as it seems, sometimes you got rid of your
- 35:02trouble Hopeful, yes, verily, But it would come into my mind again,
- 35:09and then I should be as bad, nay worse than I was before.
- 35:15Christian. Why what was it that brought your sins to mind again?
- 35:21Hopeful? Many things as one. If I did but meet a good man
- 35:27in the streets, or two if I have heard any read in the Bible,
- 35:31or three if mine head did begin to ache, or four if I
- 35:37were told that some of my neighbors were sick, or five if I heard
- 35:42the bell toll for some that were dead, or six if I thought of
- 35:46dying myself, or seven if I heard that sudden death happened to others.
- 35:53Eight But especially when I thought of myself that I must quickly come to judgment
- 36:00Christian. And could you, at any time with ease get off the guilt
- 36:05of sin, when by any of these ways it came upon you, Hopeful,
- 36:10No, not I, for then they got fast hold of my conscience.
- 36:15And then if I did but think of going back to sin, though
- 36:19my mind was turned against it, it would be double torment to me,
- 36:23Christian. And how did you do then, Hopeful? I thought, I
- 36:30must endeavor to mend my life, for else thought I I am sure to
- 36:34be damned, Christian? And did you endeavor to mend? Hopeful? Yes,
- 36:42and fled from not only my sins, but sinful company too, and
- 36:46betook me to religious duties as praying, reading, weeping for sin, speaking
- 36:52truth to my neighbors, et cetera. These things, did I, with
- 36:54many others too much here to relate, Christian? And did you think yourself
- 37:00well then, hopeful? Yes, for a while. But at the last
- 37:07my trouble came tumbling upon me again, and that over the neck of all
- 37:12my reformations, Christian? How came that about? Since you were now reformed,
- 37:20Hopeful? There were several things brought it upon me, especially such sayings
- 37:24as these all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags Isaiah sixty four six. By
- 37:31the works of the law, shall no flesh be justified Galatians two sixteen.
- 37:38When ye have done all these things, say we are unprofitable Luke seventeen ten,
- 37:45with many more such like. From whence I began to reason with myself.
- 37:49Thus, if all my righteousnesses are as filthy rags, if by the
- 37:52deeds of the law, no man can be justified, And if when we
- 37:57have done all, we are yet unprofitable, then is it but a folly
- 38:00to think of heaven by the law? I father thought? Thus, if
- 38:06a man runs a hundred pounds into the shopkeeper's debt, and after that shall
- 38:10pay for all that he shall fetch, Yet if his old debt stand still
- 38:15in the book uncrossed, the shop keeper may sue him for it and cast
- 38:19him into prison till he shall pay the debt. Christian. Well, and
- 38:28how did you apply this to yourself? Hopeful? Why I thought thus with
- 38:34myself, I have, by my sins run a great way into God's book,
- 38:38and my now reforming will not pay off that score. Therefore I should
- 38:44think still under all my present amendments, But how shall I be freed from
- 38:49that damnation that I brought myself in danger of by my former transgressions? Christian?
- 38:55A very good application, But pray go on, Hopeful. Another thing
- 39:02that has troubled me ever since my late amendments is that if I look narrowly
- 39:07into the best of what I do now, I still see sin, new
- 39:10sin mixing itself with the best of that I do, so that now I
- 39:15am forced to conclude that, notwithstanding my former fond conceits of myself and duties,
- 39:22I have committed sin enough in one day to send me to hell,
- 39:24though my former life had been faultless. Christian. And what did you do,
- 39:30then, Hopeful do I could not tell what to do until I broke
- 39:37my mind to Faithful, For he and I were well acquainted and he told
- 39:43me that unless I could obtain the righteousness of a man that never had sinned,
- 39:47neither mine own nor all the righteousness of the world could save me.
- 39:52Christian. And do you think he spake true? Hopeful? But he told
- 40:00me so. When I was pleased and satisfied with mine own amendments, I
- 40:04had called him full for his pains. But now since I see my own
- 40:07infirmity and the sin which cleaves to my best performance, I have been forced
- 40:13to be of his opinion. Christian. But did you think when at first
- 40:19he suggested it to you that there was such a man to be found of
- 40:22whom it might justly be said that he never committed sin? Hopeful, I
- 40:30must confess the words at first sounded strangely. But after a little more talk
- 40:35and company with him, I had full conviction about it. Christian. And
- 40:40did you ask him what man this was, and how you must be justified
- 40:45by him? Hopeful? Yes? And he told me it was the Lord
- 40:52Jesus that dwelleth on the right hand of the Most High Hebrews. Ten twelve
- 40:57to twenty one. And thus said he you must be justified by him,
- 41:02even by trusting to what he had done by himself in the days of his
- 41:06flesh, and suffered when he did hang on the tree Roments four five,
- 41:12Colossians one fourteen, First Peter one nineteen. I asked him further how that
- 41:20man's righteousness could be of that efficacy to justify another before God? And he
- 41:24told me he was the mighty God and did what he did and died the
- 41:29death, also not for himself, but for me, to whom his doings
- 41:34and the worthiness of them should be imputed. If I believed on him,
- 41:38Christian, And what did you do? Then, hopeful? I made my
- 41:45objections against my believing, for that I thought he was not willing to save
- 41:49me. Christian And what said faithful to you? Then? Hopeful? He
- 41:57bid me go to him and see. Then, when I said it was
- 42:00presumption, he said no, for I was invited to come Matthew eleven twenty
- 42:06eight. Then he gave me a book of Jesus, inditing to encourage me
- 42:09the more freely to come. And he said, concerning that book, that
- 42:15every drop in tittle thereof stood firmer than heaven and earth. Matthew twenty four
- 42:20thirty five. Then I asked him what I must do when I came,
- 42:24and he told me, I must entreat upon my knees Psalm ninety five six
- 42:30Daniel six ten with all my heart and soul Jeremiah twenty nine, twelve and
- 42:37thirteen the Father to reveal him to me. Then I asked him further how
- 42:43I must make my supplications to him? And he said, go and thou
- 42:46shalt find him upon a mercy seat, where he sits all the year long,
- 42:51to give pardon and forgiveness to them that come Exodus twenty five twenty two,
- 42:57Leviticus sixteen two, Numbers seven eighty nine, Hebrews four sixteen. I
- 43:05told him that I knew not what to say when I came, and he
- 43:08bid say to this effect, God, be merciful to me, a sinner,
- 43:14and make me to know and believe in Jesus Christ. For I see
- 43:17that if his righteousness had not been or I have not faith in that righteousness,
- 43:22I am utterly cast away. Lord. I have heard that thou art
- 43:28a merciful God, and hast ordained that thy son, Jesus Christ, should
- 43:32be the savior of the world, and moreover that thou art willing to bestow
- 43:37him upon such a poor sinner as I am, and I am a sinner.
- 43:42Indeed, Lord, take therefore this opportunity and magnify thy grace in the
- 43:46salvation of my soul through thy son Jesus Christ Amen Christian. And did you
- 43:55do as you were bidden? Hopeful? Yes? Over and over and over
- 44:02Christian. And did the Father reveal the son to you, Hopeful? Not
- 44:10at the first, nor second, nor third, nor fourth, nor fifth,
- 44:15No, nor at the sixth time, neither, Christian? What did
- 44:21you do then, Hopeful? What? Well? I could not tell what
- 44:27to do? Christian? Had you not thoughts of leaving off praying? Hopeful?
- 44:35Yes, an hundred times twice, told Christian? And what was the
- 44:39reason you did not? Hopeful? I believe that it was true which he
- 44:45hath been told me to wit, that without the righteousness of this Christ,
- 44:51all the world could not save me. And therefore thought I with myself,
- 44:57if I leave off, I die, and I can but die at the
- 45:00throne of grace. And with all this came into my mind. If it
- 45:05tarry, wait for it, because it will surely come and will not tarry
- 45:09Hebaccuc two three. So I continued praying until the Father showed me his son
- 45:17Christian, and how was he revealed unto you hopeful? I did not see
- 45:23him with my bodily eyes, but with the eyes of my understanding Ephesians one,
- 45:30eighteen and nineteen. And thus it was one day I was very sad,
- 45:36I think sadder than at any one time in my life. And this
- 45:40sadness was through a fresh sight of the greatness and vileness of my sins.
- 45:45And as I was then looking for nothing but hell and the everlasting damnation of
- 45:50my soul, suddenly, as I thought, I saw the Lord Jesus looking
- 45:54down from heaven upon me, and saying, believe on the Lord Jesus crime,
- 46:00and thou shalt be saved Acts sixteen thirty one. But I replied,
- 46:07Lord, I am a great, a very great sinner, And he answered,
- 46:12my grace is sufficient for thee second Corinthians twelve nine. Then I said,
- 46:19but Lord, what is believing? And then I saw from that saying,
- 46:24he that cometh to me shall never hunger, and he that believeth on
- 46:30me shall never thirst. John six thirty five. That believing and coming was
- 46:36all one, and that he that came, that is that ran out in
- 46:42his heart and affections after salvation by Christ. He indeed believed in Christ.
- 46:50Then the water stood in mine eyes. And I asked further, but Lord,
- 46:55may such a great sinner as I am be indeed accepted of THEE and
- 47:00be saved by THEE. And I heard him say, and him that cometh
- 47:06to me, I will in no wise cast out John six thirty seven.
- 47:10Then I said, but how Lord, must I consider of THEE in my
- 47:15coming to THEE, that my faith may be placed a right upon THEE.
- 47:20Then he said, Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. First
- 47:24Timothy one fifteen. He is the end of the law for righteousness to every
- 47:30one that believes. Romans ten four and chapter four. He died for our
- 47:37sins and rose again for our justification Romans four twenty five. He loved us
- 47:45and washed us from our sins in his own blood. Revelations one five.
- 47:52He is the mediator between God and us. First Timothy two five. He
- 47:58ever liveth to make intercession for us Hebrews seven twenty five. From all which
- 48:04I gathered, that I must look for righteousness in his person and for satisfaction
- 48:08for my sins by his blood. That what he did in obedience to his
- 48:13father's law and in submitting to the penalty thereof was not for himself, but
- 48:19for him that will accept it for his salvation and be thankful. And now
- 48:24was my heart full of joy, mine eyes full of tears, and mine
- 48:29affections running over with love to the name, people, and ways of Jesus
- 48:34Christ. Christian, this was a revelation of Christ to your soul and deed.
- 48:42But tell me particularly what effect this had upon your spirit, Hopeful.
- 48:49It made me see that all the world, notwithstanding all the righteousness thereof,
- 48:53is in a state of condemnation. It made me see that God the Father,
- 48:59though he be, can justly justify the coming sinner. It made me
- 49:04greatly ashamed of the vileness of my former life, and confounded me with the
- 49:08sense of mine own ignorance. For there never came a thought into my heart
- 49:13before now that showed me so the beauty of Jesus Christ. It made me
- 49:17love a holy life and longed to do something for the honor and glory of
- 49:22the name of the Lord Jesus. Yea, I thought that had I now
- 49:27a thousand gallons of blood in my body, I could spill it all for
- 49:30the sake of the Lord Jesus I saw then in my dream that Hopeful looked
- 49:36back and saw Ignorance, whom they had left behind, coming after. Look,
- 49:42said he to Christian, how far yonder youngster loitereth behind? Christian?
- 49:49Aye, aye, I see him. He careth not for our company,
- 49:53Hopeful, But I trw it would not have hurt him had he kept pace
- 49:58with us. Hitherto Christian, that is true, But I warrant you he
- 50:04thinketh otherwise, Hopeful that I think ye doth. But however, let us
- 50:10tarry for him. So they did. Then Christian said to him, come
- 50:16away, man, why do you stand so behind Ignorance? I take my
- 50:22pleasure in walking alone even more a great deal than in company, unless I
- 50:27like it the better. Then said Christian to Hopeful, but softly, did
- 50:34I not tell you he cared not for our company? But however, said
- 50:37he come up and let us talk away the time in this solitary place.
- 50:44Then, directing his speech to Ignorance, he said, come, how do
- 50:47you do? How stands it between God and your soul? Now? Ignorance?
- 50:54I hope well, for I am always full of good motions that come
- 50:59into my mind to comfort me as I walk. Christian, what good motions
- 51:05pray tell us ignorance. Why I think of God and Heaven Christian, So
- 51:14do the devils and damned souls, Ignorance. But I think of them and
- 51:20desire them Christian, So do many that I never like to come there.
- 51:27The slow of the sluggard desireth and hath nothing Proverbs thirteen four ignorance. But
- 51:35I think of them and leave all for them, Christian, that I doubt,
- 51:40For to leave all is a very hard matter, yea a harder matter
- 51:45than many are aware of. But why or by what art thou persuaded that
- 51:51thou hast left all for God and heaven? Ignorance? My heart tells me
- 51:57so Christian. The wise man says, he that trusteth in his own heart
- 52:04is a fool Proverbs twenty eight, twenty six ignorance that is spoken of an
- 52:12evil heart. But mine is a good one, Christian. But how dost
- 52:17thou prove that ignorance? It comforts me in hopes of heaven? Christian?
- 52:28That may be through its disfeitfulness, For a man's heart may minister comfort to
- 52:31him in the hopes of that thing for which he has yet no ground to
- 52:36hope. Ignorance, But my heart and life agree together, and therefore my
- 52:43hope is well grounded. Christian, who told THEE that thy heart and life
- 52:49agree together? Ignorance, My heart tells me so, Christian, Ask my
- 52:58fellow if I be a thief? Thy heart tells THEE. So. Except
- 53:02the Word of God beareth witness in this matter, other testimony is of no
- 53:07value, Ignorance. But is it not a good heart that hath good thoughts?
- 53:13And is not that a good life that is according to God's commandments?
- 53:17Christian? Yes, that is a good heart that hath good thoughts, and
- 53:23that is a good life that is according to God's commandments. But it is
- 53:28one thing, indeed, to have these, and another thing only to think
- 53:31so ignorance, pray, what count you good thoughts and a life according to
- 53:38God's commandments? Christian? There are good thoughts of diverse kinds, some respecting
- 53:45ourselves, some God, some christ and some other things. Ignorance. What
- 53:55be good thoughts respecting ourselves? Christian? Such as agree with the word of
- 54:01God? Ignorance? When do our thoughts of ourselves agree with the Word of
- 54:07God? Christian? When we pass the same judgment upon ourselves which the Word
- 54:15passes to explain myself. The Word of God saith of persons in a natural
- 54:20condition, there is none righteous, there is none that doeth good. It
- 54:25saith also that every imagination of the heart of man is only evil, and
- 54:31that continually Genesis six five Romans three. And again the imagination of man's heart
- 54:39is evil from his youth Genesis eight twenty one. Now, then, when
- 54:45we think thus of ourselves, having sense thereof, then our thoughts good ones,
- 54:51because according to the Word of God ignorance, I will never believe that
- 54:57my heart is thus bad. Christian, Therefore thou never hadst one good thought
- 55:02concerning thyself in thy life. But let me go on. As the Word
- 55:07passeth a judgment upon our hearts, so it passeth a judgment upon our ways.
- 55:14And when the thoughts of our hearts and ways agree with the judgment which
- 55:16the Word giveth of both, then are both good, because agreeing thereto ignorance,
- 55:25make out your meaning. Christian. Why the Word of God saith that
- 55:31man's ways are crooked ways, not good, but perverse. It saith they
- 55:37are naturally out of the good way, that they have not known it Pal
- 55:42one hundred and twenty five five Proverbs two fifteen Romans three twelve. Now when
- 55:49a man thus thinketh of his ways, I say, when he doth sensibly
- 55:53and with heart humiliation. Thus think, then hath he good thoughts of his
- 55:59own ways? Because his thoughts now agree with the judgment of the Word of
- 56:02God. Ignorance, what are good thoughts concerning God, Christian, even as
- 56:13I have said concerning ourselves, when our thoughts of God do agree with what
- 56:17the Word saith of Him, And that is when we think of his being
- 56:22and attributes, as the Word hath taught, of which I cannot now discourse
- 56:27at large, but to speak of Him with reference to us? Then have
- 56:30we right thoughts of God? When we think that He knows us better than
- 56:35we know ourselves, and can see sin in us, when and where we
- 56:39can see none in ourselves. When we think He knows our inmost thoughts,
- 56:44and that our heart, with all its depths, is always open unto his
- 56:47eyes. Also when we think that all our righteousness sinks in his nostrils,
- 56:53and that therefore he cannot abide to see us stand before him in any confidence,
- 56:59even in all our best performances. Ignorance, do you think that I
- 57:06am such a fool as to think that God can see no further than I,
- 57:10or that I would come to God in the best of my performances.
- 57:15Christian? Why how dost thou think in this matter ignorance? Why? To
- 57:22be short, I think I must believe in Christ for justification? Christian?
- 57:29How think thou must believe in Christ? When thou seest not thy need of
- 57:34Him, Thou neither seest thy original nor actual infirmities, which has such an
- 57:39opinion of thyself and of what thou doest as plainly renders THEE to be one
- 57:45that did never see the necessity of Christ's personal righteousness to justify THEE before God.
- 57:52How then dost thou say I believe in Christ ignorance? I believe for
- 58:00all that Christian? How dost thou believe ignorance? I believe that Christ died
- 58:08for sinners, and that I shall be justified before God from the curse through
- 58:14His gracious acceptance of my obedience to His laws. Or thus Christ makes my
- 58:20duties that are religious acceptable to His Father by virtue of his merits, and
- 58:24so shall I be justified? Christian? Let me give an answer to this
- 58:30confession of thy faith. One thou believest with a fantastical faith. For this
- 58:37faith is nowhere described in the word. Two, Thou believest with a false
- 58:43faith, because it taketh justification from the person or righteousness of Christ, and
- 58:49applies it to thy own. Three. This faith maketh not Christ a justifier
- 58:55of thy person, but of thy actions, and of thy person for thy
- 59:00action's sake, which is false. For therefore this faith is deceitful, even
- 59:08such as will leave thee under wrath in the day of God Almighty. For
- 59:13true justifying faith puts the soul as sensible of its lost condition by the law,
- 59:20upon flying for refuge. Unto Christ's righteousness, which righteousness of his is
- 59:24not an act of grace by which He maketh for justification thy obedience accepted with
- 59:30God, but his personal obedience to the law in doing and suffering for us
- 59:36what that required at our hands? This righteousness, I say, true faith
- 59:40accepteth under the skirt of which the soul, being crowded, and by it
- 59:45presented as spotless before God, it is accepted and acquitted from condemnation ignorance.
- 59:53What would you have us trust to what Christ in his own person has done
- 59:59without us this conceit would loosen the reins of our lust and tolerate us to
- 1:00:04live as we list. For what matter how we live if we may be
- 1:00:08justified by Christ's person of righteousness from all when we believe it. Christian ignorance
- 1:00:16is thy name, And as thy name is thou art thou even this thy
- 1:00:22answer demonstrateth what I say. Ignorant Thou art of what justifying righteousness is,
- 1:00:28and as ignorant, how to secure thy soul through the faith of it from
- 1:00:31the heavy wrath of God. Yea, thou also art ignorant of the true
- 1:00:37effects of saving faith in this righteousness of Christ, which is to bow and
- 1:00:40win over the heart to God in Christ, to love His name, his
- 1:00:45word, ways, and people. And not as thou ignorantly imaginest hopeful ask
- 1:00:52him, if ever he had Christ revealed to him from heaven ignorance, what
- 1:01:00you are a man for revelations. I do believe that what both you and
- 1:01:05all the rest of you say about that matter is but the fruit of distracted
- 1:01:08brains. Hopeful Why man Christ is so hid in God from the natural apprehensions
- 1:01:16of the flesh, that he cannot by any man be savingly known Unless God,
- 1:01:22the Father reveals him to him ignorance. That is your faith, but
- 1:01:28not mine. Yet mine, I doubt not is as good as yours.
- 1:01:32Though I have not in my head so many whimsies as you, Christian,
- 1:01:39give me leave to put in a word you ought not so slightly speak of
- 1:01:44this matter. For this I will boldly affirm, even as my good companion
- 1:01:49hath done, that no man can know Jesus Christ, but by the revelation
- 1:01:53of the Father yea, and faith too, by which the soul layeth hold
- 1:01:59upon Christ, if it be right, must be wrought by the exceeding greatness
- 1:02:04of His mighty power. Matthew eleven twenty seven, First Corinthians twelve, three
- 1:02:10Ephesians one seventeen to nineteen, the working of which faith I perceive poor ignorance.
- 1:02:17Thou art, ignorant of be awakened. Then see thine own wretchedness,
- 1:02:22and fly to the Lord Jesus. And by His righteousness, which is the
- 1:02:28righteousness of God, for he himself is God, thou shalt be delivered from
- 1:02:32condemnation. Ignorance. You go so fast I cannot keep pace with you.
- 1:02:39Do you go on before? I must stay a while behind? Then they
- 1:02:45said, well, ignorance. Wilt thou yet foolish be to slight good counsel?
- 1:02:51Ten times given THEE, And if thou yet refuse it, thou shalt
- 1:02:54know ere long the evil of thy doing. So remember man in time stoop,
- 1:03:01do not fear. Good counsel taken well saves therefore here. But if
- 1:03:07thou yet shalt slight it, thou wilt be the loser ignorance. I'll warrant
- 1:03:13THEE end Part one, The ninth Stage