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I Played Dead (and Nine Other Truly Terrifying Humanoid Encounters) · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Everyone. My name is Preston Dennet, and thank you for
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Speaker 1: joining me for a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal.
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Speaker 1: I hope you're all doing well. I've got a pretty
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Speaker 1: exciting episode for you today. I think I am, of
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Speaker 1: course going to be exploring some more humanoid cases. Ten
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Speaker 1: humanoid cases. In fact, I call this episode I Played
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Speaker 1: Dead and nine other truly terrifying humanoid encounters. That is
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Speaker 1: a very common theme. A humanoid encounter is often very
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Speaker 1: scary for people, which is completely understandable. The ten cases
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Speaker 1: I've chosen for you today do come from all over
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Speaker 1: the world. I've got five cases from outside of the
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Speaker 1: United States and five cases in the United States, and
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Speaker 1: the locations in this episode include Estonia, France, Italy, Spain, Australia, Alaska, Michigan, Nebraska,
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Speaker 1: New Mexico, and Oregon. These cases do stretch over a
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Speaker 1: long period of time, all the way back to nineteen thirty,
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Speaker 1: well before the modern age of UFOs, up to twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 1: So we're just going to take a little journey through
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Speaker 1: time and space and explore various humanoid encounters. Quite a
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Speaker 1: different variety of humanoids in this episode, as we will see.
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Speaker 1: So let's just get started. In the first case i'd
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Speaker 1: like to talk about, I call sock snatching ets. That's right,
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Speaker 1: ets that are stealing someone's socks. This occurred way back
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Speaker 1: in August nineteen thirty in a little town, Monte Benici, Italy.
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Speaker 1: And this case was unknown for a very long period
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Speaker 1: of time. But it's super interesting because again it's a
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Speaker 1: very early case, well before humanoids were being really researched
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Speaker 1: at all. Also, it has some remarkable parallels to another
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Speaker 1: case which occurred very close to this one. I think
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Speaker 1: you'll find it a pretty fascinating case. This very early
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Speaker 1: case was covered by multiple Italian researchers such as Eduardo Lavacci,
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Speaker 1: Bruno Mancusi, Massimo Beneducci, Viguine Valdarno, Solas Boncompagni, Robert Ricci,
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Speaker 1: and others. It occurred one beautiful early morning in August
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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty in the very small mountain town of Monte Benici.
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Speaker 1: This is near Arezzo, Italy. The witness is anonymous, I'll
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Speaker 1: call her Sofia. We're not sure how old she was.
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Speaker 1: Some sources say she was quite young, sixteen years old,
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Speaker 1: while others say she was in her forties. At any rate.
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Speaker 1: She had gone to the Ambrella Stream, this is a
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Speaker 1: tributary of the much larger Ambra River, and she was
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Speaker 1: doing her laundry. This is something she had done many times.
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Speaker 1: And she had just finished washing two pairs of hand
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Speaker 1: knitted wall socks and hung them on a clothesline that
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Speaker 1: she had set up to allow her clothes to dry.
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Speaker 1: And at that moment she heard an unusual noise. I'll
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Speaker 1: just quote her directly as she says, I suddenly heard
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Speaker 1: a hissing sound in the air, and at the same
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Speaker 1: time I felt a gust of wind from behind. For
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Speaker 1: a moment, I thought the weather had suddenly changed, But
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Speaker 1: when I looked over my shoulder, I froze with terror.
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Speaker 1: Just twenty steps from me stood a strange and shimmering
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Speaker 1: structure which looked like a big top with the tip up.
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Speaker 1: So this was a weird craft, which she estimated was
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Speaker 1: about fifteen to eighteen feet in diameter. The strangest part, however,
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Speaker 1: was yet to come. She moved cautiously towards it, but
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Speaker 1: stopped when an opening appeared on the bottom of the object,
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Speaker 1: which she said was like a trapdoor. Immediately, a small
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Speaker 1: ladder emerged from this opening, and as Sophia says, two
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Speaker 1: little men came out of the lower part at that
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Speaker 1: time and spoken that seemed to be a tweet now.
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Speaker 1: Per Sophia, these little men were around three feet tall.
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Speaker 1: She didn't really describe exactly what they looked like, but
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Speaker 1: she said they walked around her several times, making bird
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Speaker 1: like chirping sounds, and at one point actually touched her.
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Speaker 1: During this time, she was immobilized with fear. But the
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Speaker 1: encounter came to a quick end when the humanoids apparently
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Speaker 1: achieved the purpose for their visit. As Sophia says, then
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Speaker 1: they took the still damp laundry off the clothes line
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Speaker 1: and went up into their top. They took my stockings
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Speaker 1: off the wire and took them inside the top they
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Speaker 1: had barely entered. Who was whistling again so strangely, And
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Speaker 1: as another gust of wind struck me, the strange top
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Speaker 1: rose incredibly fast, disappearing a few moments later. It went
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Speaker 1: up vertically in an instant and I did not see
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Speaker 1: anything anymore. So Unfortunately, no description of the humanoids was
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Speaker 1: but Sophia was impressed enough to immediately tell others about
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Speaker 1: what had happened to her, as she says, as if
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Speaker 1: driven by fury, I went back to our village and
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Speaker 1: told about my unusual experience. Everyone laughed at me. Nobody
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Speaker 1: wanted to believe me. I was very angry about it,
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Speaker 1: and I'm still angry today because I had seen everything
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Speaker 1: with my own eyes. Now. Researchers also interviewed other people
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Speaker 1: in the area much later, who confirmed that Sofia had
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Speaker 1: in fact shared the incident with other villagers, and in fact,
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Speaker 1: it became the talk of the town for some time
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Speaker 1: and did eventually appear in newspapers. Interestingly, in nineteen fifty
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Speaker 1: four years later and only a few kilometers away, in Sinina, Italy,
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Speaker 1: another case of sock snatching eties and they also stow flowers.
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Speaker 1: This would gain wide publicity. In that case, a lady
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Speaker 1: by the name of Rosa Latti described this very similar incident.
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Speaker 1: How bizarre is that? I mean, really, why would ets
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Speaker 1: come land and steal a person's socks. It's funny. It
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Speaker 1: reminds me of an episode of Married with Children where
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Speaker 1: al Bundi had an encounter and what were the ets
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Speaker 1: doing stealing his socks? So maybe there's something going on here.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a very odd case, but certainly
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Speaker 1: not unique. Now here's another one which is quite interesting.
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Speaker 1: I call this one the Little Men in the clover Field.
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Speaker 1: This is another pretty early case summer of nineteen fifty.
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Speaker 1: This occurred in Leide Vie, Estonia, and at this time
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Speaker 1: few UFO researchers were taking humanoid cases seriously. Certainly not
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Speaker 1: in the United States. People were studying sightings, but any
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Speaker 1: cases involving humanoids were pretty much disregarded. That was about
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Speaker 1: to change, because this is when humanoid encounters really started
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Speaker 1: becoming a lot more numerous. This one is a single
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Speaker 1: witness case, but it's certainly I think an important one.
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Speaker 1: This brief but fascinating case comes from UFO researchers Tun
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Speaker 1: Keilan and Juri Lina and was published in the volume
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Speaker 1: twenty four, number one issue of the Flying Saucer Review.
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Speaker 1: There is just one witness, a six year old anonymous girl.
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Speaker 1: I'll call her Olivia, but she was interviewed firsthand by
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Speaker 1: the investigators. Reportedly, it was a beautiful summer day in
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty as Olivia was outside her family's farmhouse in
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Speaker 1: Lido vir Oja, Estonia, in the very small rural village
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Speaker 1: just south of shur Janni. On that day, Olivia had
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Speaker 1: a sudden impulse to go outside. As she sat in
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Speaker 1: a cloverfield surrounded by forest, she noticed a cigar shaped
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Speaker 1: object about six meters long that's almost twenty feet, sitting
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Speaker 1: in the field about three hundred to four hundred meters
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Speaker 1: from her home, so this is not far away, about
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Speaker 1: a fifth of a mile. She said. It was black
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Speaker 1: in color except for the ends, which were a sort
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Speaker 1: of silver gray color. Now, she thought at first that
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Speaker 1: it might be an airplane, but it had no wings,
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Speaker 1: no wheels, and in the center of the craft there
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Speaker 1: was a large rectangular door. But most strange was that
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Speaker 1: there were four men moving around near the object, well
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Speaker 1: what looked like men. They were quite small. They were
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Speaker 1: about her size, just under four feet tall. She said.
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Speaker 1: Their skin complexion was very red, and they were wearing
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Speaker 1: bright green clothes with a hood over their heads. Their
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Speaker 1: eyes also looked very strange and seemed to be almost immobile.
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Speaker 1: As how she described it, she said, they were moving
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Speaker 1: very awkwardly around their craft. She saw one of the
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Speaker 1: little men actually raise his foot and kick the side
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Speaker 1: of this craft. Then to the men approached within just
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Speaker 1: a few feet of her. When they did this, Olivia
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Speaker 1: spoke to the men out loud and using gestures, and
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Speaker 1: she said that they did answer her, though she cannot
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Speaker 1: remember any of the contents of their conversation other than
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Speaker 1: to say that it was not audible, it was telepathic.
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Speaker 1: During this conversation, she realized that these little men were
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Speaker 1: not normal humans, and this is when she became seized
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Speaker 1: by a sudden fear and ran directly home. Looking back,
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Speaker 1: she saw the object take off slowly, very smoothly, and silently.
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Speaker 1: She told both her mother and her grandmother, but neither
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Speaker 1: of them believed her story. The next day, she did
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Speaker 1: return to the location of the landing, but admitted that
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Speaker 1: it took her a very long time as she was
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Speaker 1: still very much frightened by the encounter. At the time,
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Speaker 1: she had never seen a plane, and when she did
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Speaker 1: some time later, she was amazed to see the They
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Speaker 1: did have wings, so this was clearly not a plane
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Speaker 1: or any normal conventional vehicle. As we would think of
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Speaker 1: it pretty weird and I would imagine quite scary for
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Speaker 1: the witness. It's this weird pattern we have of UFOs
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Speaker 1: landing ET's coming out and approaching people and then going
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Speaker 1: right back into their craft. It's not entirely clear why
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Speaker 1: this is happening. Could this be a display ore ET's
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Speaker 1: conducting some sort of study. You can make up your
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Speaker 1: own minds about it. But this is a pattern that
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Speaker 1: is really quite prominent in these humanoid cases. Now here's
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Speaker 1: another case which is very unusual. This one is a
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Speaker 1: multiple witness case. Most of the cases in this particular
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Speaker 1: episode are multiple witness cases, seven out of ten. That's
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Speaker 1: important because you can call one person a liar, but
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Speaker 1: if you start calling multiple people a liar, that you know,
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Speaker 1: starts to become problematic. And it's clear to me that
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Speaker 1: these cases cannot be explained away as hoaxes or frankly,
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Speaker 1: hallucinations and misperceptions and mental illness, despite what our governments
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Speaker 1: would have us believe. Now, there's too many cases of
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Speaker 1: these kinds. This one I call they looked human. This
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Speaker 1: took place in the summer of nineteen fifty six in Marseilles, France,
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Speaker 1: and it's a fascinating case because the witnesses in this
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Speaker 1: case did not jump to the explanation that these were
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Speaker 1: extraterrestrials from outer space. This case comes from French researcher
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Speaker 1: Jean Pierre trodec and first appeared in the French magazine
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Speaker 1: Lumier don la Louis that is Lights in the Night
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Speaker 1: and this is the issue number one five to four.
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Speaker 1: In fact, it was pure synchronicity that Jean Pierre, the investigator,
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Speaker 1: was able to research this case. Has he only heard
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Speaker 1: about it from a friend who had walked into a
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Speaker 1: bookstore looking for a book on UFOs when the shopkeeper,
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Speaker 1: Mademoiselle X, said she had no books on UFOs, but
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Speaker 1: said that she had already seen them, so she's the witness.
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Speaker 1: We don't know her name, and after getting some of
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Speaker 1: the details of her story, Jean Pierre's friend contacted him,
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Speaker 1: and Jean Pierre contacted Mademoiselle X, who shared her experience
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Speaker 1: only after much convincing. Her previous experience with sharing her
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Speaker 1: story with others had resulted in ridicule and then in
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Speaker 1: unwanted publicity, so she was initially very reluctant to speak
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Speaker 1: about it, but thankfully Jean Pierre was able to get
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Speaker 1: her to reveal the details of her remarkable encounter. And
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Speaker 1: as he says, her story seems and appears to be
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Speaker 1: highly credible and she seems to me very balanced and
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Speaker 1: very erudite. Now. It was a summer afternoon in nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty six as Mademoiselle X, her her husband, and two
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Speaker 1: friends were driving along a small remote road outside of Marseilles.
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Speaker 1: Mademoiselle EX and her husband were in the front seat
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Speaker 1: and their friends were in the back, and coming around
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Speaker 1: a corner in the road, they came almost face to
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Speaker 1: face with the strange craft on the right side of
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Speaker 1: the road, only about thirty feet ten meters away, was
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Speaker 1: hovering about three to six feet off the ground and
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Speaker 1: was perfectly motionless. The witnesses immediately stopped the car and
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Speaker 1: exited to get a better look. None of them felt
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Speaker 1: any fear and were instead very much fascinated by what
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Speaker 1: they were looking at. They estimate that this craft was
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Speaker 1: about thirty feet wide and ten feet high. They said
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Speaker 1: it was metallic gray and had a classic flying saucer shape,
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Speaker 1: like two plates overturned on top of each other. There
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Speaker 1: were no visible markings on the craft, but there was
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Speaker 1: a window, or perhaps a row of windows, around the
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Speaker 1: edge of the craft. It was through these windows that
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Speaker 1: all four witnesses saw what they described as three human
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Speaker 1: looking figures watching them. These humanoids, these human looking figures
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Speaker 1: were visible only from the shoulders up, but they did
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Speaker 1: appear to be watching the witnesses attentively, like curious visitors
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Speaker 1: to a zoo, is how Mademoiselle X described it. They
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Speaker 1: wore uniforms, but again appeared to be normal humans. One
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Speaker 1: thing was clear to the witnesses. The UFO occupants seemed
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Speaker 1: to be very interested in the four humans watching them.
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Speaker 1: After just a few moments, the craft suddenly took off
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Speaker 1: at high speed in a climbing curve up into the sky,
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Speaker 1: disappearing in only about five seconds. It made no sound
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Speaker 1: or no wind. Mademoiselle X does not claim that the
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Speaker 1: human looking beings were extraterrestrial, and in fact, she speculated
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Speaker 1: that they might be from another country here on Earth,
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Speaker 1: though she did say that she was very much impressed
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Speaker 1: by the speed and mobility of the craft. A pretty
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Speaker 1: unusual case, and one of the few, if not the only,
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Speaker 1: one in this compilation where the witnesses did not react
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Speaker 1: in fear, perhaps because these ets did look human, and
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Speaker 1: perhaps they were. It's entirely possible that this was a
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Speaker 1: reverse engineered craft, but that begs the question, what the
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Speaker 1: heck are these humans? If that's what they were showing
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Speaker 1: themselves to people along the side of a road and
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Speaker 1: just kind of staring at them. I don't know, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's always so many questions to all of these cases.
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Speaker 1: So let's move to the next one. I call this
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Speaker 1: next one I played Dead. This is the title of
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Speaker 1: this episode, and so this is sort of the clever story,
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Speaker 1: if you will, of this episode. This one, really I
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Speaker 1: thought was quite profound and clearly scary for the witnesses.
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Speaker 1: Took place in June nineteen fifty seven in Birmingham, Michigan.
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Speaker 1: This is a multiple witness case and is very unusual.
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Speaker 1: This case was reported to the National UFO Reporting Center,
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Speaker 1: Newfork and involves three brothers by the name of James, Mickey,
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Speaker 1: and Tim. Those are their real names, though they do
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Speaker 1: not use their last name. At the time of their encounter,
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Speaker 1: they lived on Dorchester Street in Birmingham. This is a
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Speaker 1: suburb of Detroit, Michigan. You can see it here. The
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Speaker 1: report comes from James, who at the time of this
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Speaker 1: incident was about six years old, His brother Mickey was
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Speaker 1: five years old, and their brother Tim was just a
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Speaker 1: toddler in his crib. All of them shared a room
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Speaker 1: and it was one evening in nineteen fifty seven June
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Speaker 1: when James woke up to what would be the scariest
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Speaker 1: moment in his life up to even today. As James says,
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Speaker 1: I was awakened by the sound of muffled, panicked cries
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Speaker 1: coming from the other side of my bedroom. It was
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Speaker 1: my brother Micky. I became immediately and fully terrified. I
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Speaker 1: was facing the wall away from him, and I knew
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Speaker 1: there was no way I would look in his direction
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Speaker 1: because I knew something or someone was in the room,
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Speaker 1: and from the disturbing intensity of Mickey's whimpering noises, I
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Speaker 1: knew it was not Santa Claus. I did not move
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Speaker 1: a muscle or make a sound, hoping that whatever it
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Speaker 1: was would not know I was there. So I literally
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Speaker 1: played dead as I desperately did not want the Boogeyman
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Speaker 1: to know I even existed. My heart was pounding in
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Speaker 1: my ears from fear, and my fears were not unfounded,
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Speaker 1: as the next thing I hear was look out Jimmy.
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Speaker 1: So this was his brother Micky warning him about what.
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Speaker 1: James did not know, but he knew it couldn't be good,
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Speaker 1: and his fear escalated exponentially. As James says, I thought,
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Speaker 1: oh no, he just told it. I'm here. Those words
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Speaker 1: sent me crashing into a terror that in a few
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Speaker 1: moments would increase a thousandfold. I was lying on my stomach,
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Speaker 1: and suddenly there was a long fingered claw or hand
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Speaker 1: planted firmly in the middle of my back and spine.
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Speaker 1: Now at the time, James, of course, had never heard
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Speaker 1: of aliens. He had no idea how to interpret the experience,
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Speaker 1: or who or what was in his room touching his back.
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Speaker 1: He wondered, was it the claw of a witch? Was
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Speaker 1: it an evil monster? He really had no idea. All
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Speaker 1: he knew was that he was deeply afraid. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he thought he was about to be killed. As James says,
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Speaker 1: I was going to die for sure. I'm not kidding.
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Speaker 1: This was the most frightening night of my life. Suddenly
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Speaker 1: I realized there was tremendous heat, so much so I
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Speaker 1: could feel the heat coming clear through my body, through
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Speaker 1: my chest and solar plexus area, and onto the bed
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Speaker 1: lying beneath me. I thought, without a doubt in my
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Speaker 1: little boy's brain, I was being stabbed to death with
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Speaker 1: a knife. As I felt the knife slowly corkscrew deep
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Speaker 1: into my body. I never flinched or made a noise.
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Speaker 1: That was my brave but useless way of hoping it
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Speaker 1: might think I was already dead. Now, as this was
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Speaker 1: going on, James could hear a quote deafening, hissing noise
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Speaker 1: which was in his head, which he assumed must be
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Speaker 1: the sound of the monster's breathing. And, as James says,
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Speaker 1: this only intensified my terror. During these moments, I was
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Speaker 1: unable to appreciate the fact that it was actually not painful.
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Speaker 1: What I felt was more of a thick, bluntness turning
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Speaker 1: its way into me. Not long afterward, I felt the
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Speaker 1: knife come back out of me. I was shocked that
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Speaker 1: I was still alive, though I did not want the
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Speaker 1: invader to know that. Then the heat stopped and its
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Speaker 1: hand was removed from my back. Now, at this point,
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Speaker 1: James did not visibly react. He stayed perfectly still and silent,
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Speaker 1: eyes closed, still playing dead. In fact, he remained that
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Speaker 1: way until the sun came up the next morning. Now
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Speaker 1: he's not sure if he told his parents or not,
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Speaker 1: but he guesses that he probably did, and that they
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Speaker 1: told him he had just had a nightmare. But of course,
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Speaker 1: James is one hundred percent sure that this was not
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Speaker 1: a dream or a nightmare, as he says, I knew
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Speaker 1: it happened, and I was not sleeping. It was not
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Speaker 1: a dream. I never, for a moment forgot this experience,
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Speaker 1: as it was clearly drilled into my memory for several
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Speaker 1: days to a week. I snuck a knife from the
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Speaker 1: kitchen that I was not supposed to have and hid
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Speaker 1: it under my pillow. Was the only defense I could
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Speaker 1: think of, but my mother soon found it and took
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Speaker 1: it away. As life went on growing up, I never
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Speaker 1: disgusted at all with my brother Micky, and as an adult,
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Speaker 1: I totally assumed that he would not remember that night.
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Speaker 1: I was wrong. So it was thirty seven years after
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Speaker 1: the incident in nineteen ninety four, James was sitting with
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Speaker 1: his wife and some friends swapping various experiences that they
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Speaker 1: had had with ghosts and the paranormal. So James decided
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Speaker 1: to share his story of the monster in his room. Then, afterwards,
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Speaker 1: one of his friends asked if his brother Micky had
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Speaker 1: ever mentioned the story, and James said, quote, no, I
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Speaker 1: am sure he won't remember anything. But then he thought
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Speaker 1: to himself, why not just ask him? So he went
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Speaker 1: to the phone and called up his brother and he
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Speaker 1: started to say, do you remember a night back on Dorchester?
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Speaker 1: And he got no further than that when Mickey interrupted
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Speaker 1: him and immediately began to talk about the scary encounter.
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Speaker 1: As Mickey says, I woke up to find what I
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Speaker 1: thought was Caspar the ghost floating over to the side
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Speaker 1: of my bed was peering down into my face with
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Speaker 1: its hands held up in front and just above me.
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Speaker 1: It had a big head and big black eyes. I
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Speaker 1: was completely terrified and totally freaking out. It just kept
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Speaker 1: looking down at me. I was frantically crying when it
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Speaker 1: finally moved away from me and went over to the
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Speaker 1: crib that held Tim and it raised its hand over
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Speaker 1: the crib opening and its hand lit up. Then it
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Speaker 1: moved away from the crib and I saw it go
22:39
Speaker 1: over to you. I tried to warn you, and I said,
22:43
Speaker 1: look out, Jimmy. It bent all the way down over
22:46
Speaker 1: you and looked like it was touching you. So Mickey
22:50
Speaker 1: is describing this to his brother James, and hearing this,
22:54
Speaker 1: James felt as if he was about to faint. James
22:57
Speaker 1: at this point shared his side of the story, and
23:00
Speaker 1: then Mickey added some new details. He recalled that after
23:03
Speaker 1: the experience, he would wake up night after night shrieking
23:08
Speaker 1: from terrifying nightmares about this incident, and in fact, he
23:12
Speaker 1: refused to go to sleep unless the lights were on.
23:15
Speaker 1: He said that their parents finally took him to a
23:17
Speaker 1: doctor and had his brain X rayed to find out
23:20
Speaker 1: if anything was wrong. Now hearing Mickey's side of the story,
23:25
Speaker 1: this changed how James felt about his experience, and it
23:29
Speaker 1: really connected the dots for him involving other strange encounters
23:33
Speaker 1: in his life. As James says, I am sure now
23:37
Speaker 1: that Casper the big head, big black eyed ghost was
23:41
Speaker 1: a visiting gray alien. What I am unsure of is
23:46
Speaker 1: what did it do to me. I figured that it
23:48
Speaker 1: either fixed something in me, or took DNA, or left
23:52
Speaker 1: an implant, or all of the above. I don't know
23:55
Speaker 1: any of that for sure, but I have since had
23:58
Speaker 1: several uniquely close experiences with UFOs that occurred later in
24:03
Speaker 1: my adult life that led me to believe we are
24:06
Speaker 1: connected somehow, for some purpose that I hope to understand
24:10
Speaker 1: perhaps sometime in the future. This is indeed a fascinating
24:15
Speaker 1: universe we journey upon. It seems like there are a
24:18
Speaker 1: lot of witnesses who are young children. Not sure why
24:22
Speaker 1: that is other than perhaps contact often does start at
24:26
Speaker 1: a very young age, but it's certainly a prominent pattern
24:30
Speaker 1: we see in humanoid encounters. Another pattern that's certainly present
24:35
Speaker 1: in this case is that the children were not believed.
24:38
Speaker 1: Luckily they did have each other, but they still kept
24:42
Speaker 1: this encounter pretty much a secret from most of their lives.
24:46
Speaker 1: So luckily they did have someone to corroborate their story,
24:50
Speaker 1: and as you can see, it was very scary for
24:52
Speaker 1: them and did affect them really profoundly. That's also a
24:57
Speaker 1: very prominent pattern. So now let's move to the next case.
25:01
Speaker 1: This one I felt was really interesting because it's got
25:04
Speaker 1: some unusual elements to it that are not perhaps not unique,
25:09
Speaker 1: but certainly not super common. Because this one involves a
25:15
Speaker 1: lot of witnesses, but apparently only one really remembers this
25:19
Speaker 1: in any detail. I call this one never tell this story.
25:24
Speaker 1: This occurred one evening in October nineteen sixty eight in
25:28
Speaker 1: Morgan Springs. This is in the Malair Forest of Oregon.
25:33
Speaker 1: And yeah, this one is unusual, to say the least.
25:37
Speaker 1: This case comes secondhand from the aunt of the main witness,
25:41
Speaker 1: as her aunt never wanted to report it. The niece
25:44
Speaker 1: finally decided to reveal the details in the hopes that
25:47
Speaker 1: it might be corroborated by other people in the area.
25:51
Speaker 1: This case involves a large extended family and their friends
25:55
Speaker 1: who one evening in October of nineteen sixty eight. This
25:59
Speaker 1: is approximate it. We're camping in the rugged country wilderness
26:03
Speaker 1: at Morgan Springs in the Malare National Forest. This is
26:07
Speaker 1: north of Burns, Oregon. By the way, Malure is a
26:11
Speaker 1: French word meaning misfortune or adversity, which is a curious
26:15
Speaker 1: name for a forest, especially considering what happened next. According
26:20
Speaker 1: to the niece, the main witness, her aunt, was the
26:23
Speaker 1: national chairperson of a prestigious real estate concern and was
26:27
Speaker 1: actually listed in Who's Who. She was, as her niece says, quote,
26:32
Speaker 1: very successful, logical, and level headed. I'll call the niece Alice.
26:37
Speaker 1: That is, of course a pseudonym. The experience began around
26:41
Speaker 1: seven p m. One evening in October of nineteen sixty eight,
26:45
Speaker 1: as the aunt was walking around the group with a
26:48
Speaker 1: tray of snacks, offering them to everyone, and this is
26:52
Speaker 1: when a large saucer shaped craft appeared overhead. As Alice says.
26:56
Speaker 1: Talking about her aunt, she stated that its soundlessly glided
27:00
Speaker 1: into view just above the tree tops large Ponderosa pines.
27:05
Speaker 1: It stopped hovering, not directly overhead, about fifty feet away,
27:10
Speaker 1: about one hundred feet above the ground. About half of
27:13
Speaker 1: the craft was visible was saucer shaped. She estimated it
27:18
Speaker 1: to be at least one hundred feet wide. Everyone freaked out.
27:23
Speaker 1: Women screamed, men yelled, Some went for their hunting rifles.
27:27
Speaker 1: He said it was so close and so obvious what
27:30
Speaker 1: it was that nobody said anything like what is it?
27:34
Speaker 1: Everyone knew there were windows, She said they appeared after
27:38
Speaker 1: it stopped to hover. A yellow light was visible, apparently
27:42
Speaker 1: emanating from the craft's interior. She said the shapes of
27:46
Speaker 1: more than one humanoid was visible, and movement was easily
27:50
Speaker 1: discerned with the yellow back light. No features were seen
27:54
Speaker 1: as no light was directed into the craft from the outside.
27:58
Speaker 1: She said the movements were fluid, natural, but seemed uncharacteristic
28:03
Speaker 1: of human movement. The proportions were odd as well. She said.
28:07
Speaker 1: They seemed curious about them, moving to get different looks
28:11
Speaker 1: into the campsite. Now at this point, only a few
28:14
Speaker 1: seconds had elapsed. The aunt was a camera buff and
28:18
Speaker 1: wanting to capture a photograph of this flying saucer. She
28:22
Speaker 1: dropped the tray of snacks on the ground and ran
28:26
Speaker 1: to the camping vehicle to retrieve her thirty five millimeter camera.
28:30
Speaker 1: She grabbed the camera and quickly loaded it with film.
28:34
Speaker 1: She says it took her no more than three minutes,
28:36
Speaker 1: but when she ran back outside with the camera, she
28:39
Speaker 1: was confronted by an incredible sight. As Alice says, the
28:44
Speaker 1: entire group was still and calm. The craft had gone.
28:49
Speaker 1: Some of those that hadn't left the fire area were
28:52
Speaker 1: again seated. Couple of the group that ran were slowly
28:56
Speaker 1: walking back. Two men with hunting rifles were stone still
29:00
Speaker 1: and seemed catatonic for another couple of minutes. So the
29:04
Speaker 1: aunt was understandably astonished and really puzzled by the way
29:08
Speaker 1: everyone was reacting or lack of reacting, and she started
29:12
Speaker 1: asking everyone what happened? Where did the saucer go? Everyone
29:17
Speaker 1: seemed dazed or entranced, and only slowly did they regain
29:21
Speaker 1: their wits. And when the aunt began asking about the
29:24
Speaker 1: UFO and explained her memory of it, nobody remembered it
29:28
Speaker 1: at all. As Alice says, she was frantic, demanding answers.
29:34
Speaker 1: They all, including her husband, acted like she'd lost her mind.
29:39
Speaker 1: They had no explanation or memory of why, some were
29:43
Speaker 1: away from the fire holding guns, or unable to recall
29:46
Speaker 1: the tray of snacks being dropped by her as she
29:49
Speaker 1: ran for her camera. She was incredulous, and being a
29:53
Speaker 1: strong willed, confident woman, she demanded answers and insisted her
29:58
Speaker 1: story was true and that it was they who were daft.
30:02
Speaker 1: It got heated. Her husband, my uncle, finally felt embarrassed
30:06
Speaker 1: enough to demand her silence. In the coming days. She
30:10
Speaker 1: agreed at his request to never tell this story. To
30:15
Speaker 1: my knowledge, I am the only one she told. Alice's
30:19
Speaker 1: aunt speculated that the reason she was able to remember
30:22
Speaker 1: when no one else could was because she was in
30:24
Speaker 1: the camper and was perhaps protected by the metal skin
30:28
Speaker 1: of the camper. Alice calls her uncle and aunt quote
30:33
Speaker 1: the greatest people I've ever known. She is absolutely convinced
30:37
Speaker 1: that her aunt is telling the truth, and as she says,
30:40
Speaker 1: I need no additional proof, I simply believe her. Hopefully,
30:45
Speaker 1: if any other events took place in that area, this
30:48
Speaker 1: will add weight to their accounts. Very strange, It's hard
30:52
Speaker 1: to say why only one witness really recalled seeing the
30:56
Speaker 1: humanoids and how difficult that must have been for her
31:00
Speaker 1: to talk about this in front of people who were
31:04
Speaker 1: there but called her crazy, said it didn't happen. She
31:08
Speaker 1: stuck to her guns and says that, yes, this did happen,
31:13
Speaker 1: And yeah, we see that it's not unusual for there
31:16
Speaker 1: to be sort of a selective amnesia where some people
31:19
Speaker 1: remember and others don't. But to be the only one
31:22
Speaker 1: in a crowd of people, that's got to be tremendously stressful.
31:26
Speaker 1: And I can see why the witness said never tell
31:29
Speaker 1: this story. The vast majority of people do keep these
31:33
Speaker 1: kinds of experiences secret. That's one of the reasons I
31:36
Speaker 1: do this research and put out these episodes, so that
31:39
Speaker 1: we can move past that and that people will feel
31:42
Speaker 1: more comfortable sharing their stories. Also to remove the fear factor,
31:48
Speaker 1: because one of the best ways to remove fear is
31:51
Speaker 1: to make the unknown known. So that's what I'm trying
31:54
Speaker 1: to do here. Now let's move to the next case.
31:57
Speaker 1: This one is pretty unusual. One of you listeners out
32:01
Speaker 1: there requested that I find a case involving sort of
32:06
Speaker 1: flying humanoids, and I've presented a number of them before.
32:09
Speaker 1: But here's another. I call this one the jetpack humanoid.
32:14
Speaker 1: This one occurred in nineteen seventy four, one evening around dusk,
32:20
Speaker 1: just outside of Melbourne, Australia, on a dairy farm. This
32:24
Speaker 1: one's also a multiple witness case and a pretty unusually
32:29
Speaker 1: described humanoid. This case comes from the National UFO Reporting
32:34
Speaker 1: Center and was reported by the brother of the witness.
32:37
Speaker 1: The witness is anonymous, so all given the pseudonym Phil.
32:42
Speaker 1: Was around dusk one day in nineteen seventy four that Phil,
32:45
Speaker 1: age five, was outside on the family's dairy farm, which
32:50
Speaker 1: was located southeast of Melbourne in Victoria, Australia. He was
32:55
Speaker 1: playing near the gate of their property. His father and
32:58
Speaker 1: grandfather were in the finishing up milking the cows, and
33:02
Speaker 1: his grandmother was standing in the doorway of the farmhouse.
33:06
Speaker 1: And this is when something strange happened. According to Phil,
33:10
Speaker 1: he suddenly noticed what he described as quote a big
33:14
Speaker 1: bright star. This was clearly not a star, as it
33:18
Speaker 1: appeared to be hovering between their farm and the neighbor's property,
33:22
Speaker 1: approximately two hundred meters away six hundred feet So he
33:26
Speaker 1: watched as the glowing object began to abruptly dart around
33:29
Speaker 1: in various positions in the western sky, before hovering in
33:33
Speaker 1: place for some time. It then began to move closer,
33:37
Speaker 1: and this is when Phil could see that it was
33:39
Speaker 1: actually a solid object hovering about fifty meters away from him,
33:44
Speaker 1: and as Phil says, it was a metal machine, a
33:48
Speaker 1: shiny spaceship, a flying saucer like the flying saucers you see.
33:53
Speaker 1: What happened next was vividly engraved on his memory. He said,
33:57
Speaker 1: A quote hatch like a gang plank opened up on
34:01
Speaker 1: the side of the object, and a quote spaceman with
34:05
Speaker 1: a jetpack flew out. Phil watched in amazement as this
34:10
Speaker 1: spaceman proceeded to perform various maneuvers in the sky, occasionally
34:15
Speaker 1: coming close and then flying off at a distance. Finally,
34:19
Speaker 1: the spaceman approached Phil and landed on the dirt road
34:22
Speaker 1: near the gate, about thirty meters less than one hundred
34:26
Speaker 1: feet away from him. Phil was terrified and turned to run,
34:31
Speaker 1: but found that he was totally immobilized, frozen to the spot.
34:35
Speaker 1: As he said, you can't run, even if you want to,
34:39
Speaker 1: you can't run. Meanwhile, Phil's grandmother, who was standing about
34:44
Speaker 1: ten meters away, also apparently saw the humanoid. Phil's brother
34:49
Speaker 1: was unable to get much more detail about this encounter
34:51
Speaker 1: from his brother, but presumably at this point the UFO
34:55
Speaker 1: occupant flew back up into the craft, re entered it,
34:59
Speaker 1: and the craft took off. Phil immediately told everyone in
35:03
Speaker 1: the family, and his grandmother allegedly confirmed this story, though
35:08
Speaker 1: she would later refuse to talk about it, and when pressed,
35:11
Speaker 1: she actually denied the whole thing again. It was Phil's
35:15
Speaker 1: brother who reported the incident to Newfork, and as he wrote,
35:20
Speaker 1: what intrigues me to this day is that, as long
35:23
Speaker 1: as I can remember, the story has remained consistent among
35:26
Speaker 1: our family. What has always fascinated me about his story
35:31
Speaker 1: is that he made my parents and grandparents aware of
35:33
Speaker 1: the sighting at the time, and it has been mentioned intermittently,
35:38
Speaker 1: albeit with embarrassment and disbelief, by the adults, ever since.
35:42
Speaker 1: In other words, he reported what he saw to them
35:45
Speaker 1: at the time and in detail, so this is not
35:48
Speaker 1: some false memory of childhood recalled or invented many years later.
35:53
Speaker 1: Recently I broached the subject with him to get a
35:56
Speaker 1: definitive account of what I believe is a genuine uf
36:00
Speaker 1: occupant encounter. Very weird there are a huge number of
36:05
Speaker 1: cases with UFOs and ETS showing an interest in farms
36:10
Speaker 1: that does seem to be a draw for them a target.
36:14
Speaker 1: Not exactly sure why. Perhaps there's something else about this
36:17
Speaker 1: area that is attracting the ETS. Hard to say for sure,
36:23
Speaker 1: but who knows. The more cases we have, the more
36:27
Speaker 1: knowledge we have about what's going on here. So let's
36:31
Speaker 1: just keep adding to the database and perhaps one day
36:35
Speaker 1: we'll have answers to all of these questions. So now
36:38
Speaker 1: let's move to the next case. I call this one
36:42
Speaker 1: four apes and a UFO. This occurred one evening February
36:46
Speaker 1: twenty first, nineteen eighty two, in a campground in Gorle's, Spain.
36:52
Speaker 1: This is another multiple witness case. I thought this one
36:55
Speaker 1: was particularly compelling, not only because it's got multiple witnesses,
37:00
Speaker 1: because the description of the humanoids is very unusual. This
37:05
Speaker 1: case was investigated by researcher JJ Benitez. It appeared in
37:09
Speaker 1: newspapers and in a couple of books. Was fifteen minutes
37:13
Speaker 1: to midnight on August twenty five, nineteen seventy nine, when
37:17
Speaker 1: two friends, Vermina Teniente and Maria de los Angeles Camine,
37:23
Speaker 1: both age thirty five, were camping at the Gorles Municipal
37:27
Speaker 1: campsite in Vizcaya, Spain. They were sitting outside the entrance
37:32
Speaker 1: to their little camping hut, a small stream was nearby,
37:36
Speaker 1: and looking at some bushes near the stream. This is
37:39
Speaker 1: when they noticed the silhouette of what looked to them
37:41
Speaker 1: at first like an animal squatting down near the ground,
37:45
Speaker 1: only about six feet away from them. Vermina immediately turned
37:49
Speaker 1: to her friend Maria and said, look, what a strange dog.
37:54
Speaker 1: But then suddenly it stood up and looked at them,
37:58
Speaker 1: and they saw that it wasn't a dog, was actually
38:00
Speaker 1: a humanoid figure about four and a half to five
38:04
Speaker 1: feet tall. Its face, they said, radiated kindness, so at
38:08
Speaker 1: this point they felt no fear. They did try to
38:11
Speaker 1: shine their flashlight at it, but strangely, their flashlight would
38:15
Speaker 1: not work. The figure then began to walk with long
38:19
Speaker 1: strides in the darkness. They weren't sure if it had thick,
38:23
Speaker 1: dark fur or skin, or if it was wearing blackish
38:26
Speaker 1: clothing that was somehow reflecting in the moonlight, but they
38:30
Speaker 1: did see that its arms were long enough that they
38:32
Speaker 1: touched the ground. This figure was not normal. The way
38:36
Speaker 1: it walked was very unusual with this sort of hunched posture,
38:40
Speaker 1: and as it walked past their tent, they wondered if
38:43
Speaker 1: perhaps it was some kind of an ape that had
38:45
Speaker 1: perhaps escaped from the zoo or a circus. They could
38:49
Speaker 1: see that it had an oval skull with what looked
38:52
Speaker 1: like abundant hair flattened and swept back. They could see
38:56
Speaker 1: no mouth, no ears, only two immense rounded eyes and
39:00
Speaker 1: a very large mouth, eyes much much bigger than a human,
39:05
Speaker 1: which strode quickly past their tent, descended a steep slope
39:09
Speaker 1: and disappeared from view. Both women were shocked and were
39:13
Speaker 1: trying to calm down when suddenly, emerging from the same
39:16
Speaker 1: place where the first one had appeared, three identical, strange,
39:20
Speaker 1: apelike humanoids appeared. These three were walking much faster than
39:25
Speaker 1: the first, but instead of following the first, they climbed
39:29
Speaker 1: a hill and disappeared in the opposite direction. Now this
39:33
Speaker 1: did cause the women to become afraid. The witnesses were
39:37
Speaker 1: very much impressed by their large eyes. Seeing these three creatures,
39:42
Speaker 1: both Fermina and Maria screamed and actually burst into tears,
39:46
Speaker 1: waking up many of the campers around them, all of
39:49
Speaker 1: who rushed outside to see what was happening. The witnesses
39:53
Speaker 1: explained what they had seen and pointed to the location,
39:57
Speaker 1: and the other campers could see a trail of footprints
40:00
Speaker 1: leading up in the direction where the woman had seen
40:03
Speaker 1: these humanoids walk off into the darkness. Now this caused
40:08
Speaker 1: an uproar at the campground, especially because just a short
40:12
Speaker 1: time later, an intense glowing light moved silently overhead, so
40:17
Speaker 1: bright it illuminated the entire area. This very much alarmed
40:21
Speaker 1: the frightened crowd of campers, who now began to wonder
40:25
Speaker 1: if the unidentified glowing object was in fact the vehicle
40:29
Speaker 1: used by the strange humanoids they had seen just a
40:32
Speaker 1: few hours earlier. While it is pure speculation, it does
40:37
Speaker 1: look like that UFO sighting is in some way related
40:41
Speaker 1: to the humanos encounter that occurred just before it. Certainly
40:46
Speaker 1: that's what the witnesses thought. But how unusual are those humanoids?
40:51
Speaker 1: Certainly not your standard grays by any means, wouldn't I'm
40:56
Speaker 1: not trying to call these bigfoot, because they certainly weren't
40:59
Speaker 1: very but they did have sort of an ape like appearance.
41:04
Speaker 1: The variety of humanoids is astonishing, But once again, they're
41:08
Speaker 1: almost entirely humanoid in form, which I think is very
41:12
Speaker 1: significant and have profound implications. And I think shows once again,
41:17
Speaker 1: and I've said this before, that our relationship to these
41:20
Speaker 1: guys is probably closer than we think. In fact, some
41:24
Speaker 1: do look entirely human, really really interesting. I know I
41:30
Speaker 1: keep saying these good counts are interesting and fascinating, but
41:33
Speaker 1: they are. They've got so much to teach us. So
41:36
Speaker 1: now let's move to another case, which was again truly
41:39
Speaker 1: terrifying for the witness. This is a single witness case,
41:43
Speaker 1: but I think it's an important case. It's got some
41:46
Speaker 1: really unusual elements to it in terms of how this
41:50
Speaker 1: encounter affected the environment around the witness. I call this
41:54
Speaker 1: one my heart was pounding. This took place on November two,
41:59
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, in Anchorage, Alaska. It's not a super
42:03
Speaker 1: big town, seff definitely does have quite a bit of
42:07
Speaker 1: activity though, and this encounter is a really interesting humanoid experience.
42:13
Speaker 1: It was about one a m. On the night of
42:15
Speaker 1: November two, nineteen ninety seven, that Brett that as a pseudonym,
42:20
Speaker 1: was in his basement bedroom in his home in Anchorage, Alaska.
42:24
Speaker 1: He had an interview planned for the next morning, but
42:27
Speaker 1: found himself unable to sleep. He was sleeping on a
42:30
Speaker 1: queen's size box spring mattress on a concrete floor, and
42:34
Speaker 1: there was a toaster sitting on the floor about two
42:37
Speaker 1: feet away from his head. This detail is important considering
42:41
Speaker 1: what happened next, As Brett says, as I lay there,
42:45
Speaker 1: I suddenly became aware that there was someone else in
42:48
Speaker 1: the room, but it felt like they had stepped into
42:51
Speaker 1: my mind and were observing. At this point, I tried
42:55
Speaker 1: to move so I could see it. I could not move.
42:59
Speaker 1: As I struggled to move, the coils in the toaster
43:02
Speaker 1: began vibrating, and the harder I struggled, the coils in
43:07
Speaker 1: the toaster would vibrate at a higher pitch. Finally, using
43:11
Speaker 1: a great effort of willpower, Brett was able to break
43:14
Speaker 1: free from the paralysis, and in one smooth motion, he
43:18
Speaker 1: grabbed his loaded Colt pistol with his left hand and
43:22
Speaker 1: sat up in bed. To his shock, he saw a
43:25
Speaker 1: quote light brighter than the sun just outside his basement door,
43:31
Speaker 1: But very quickly this light moved away from the bedroom,
43:34
Speaker 1: took a left turn up the stairs, and went through
43:37
Speaker 1: the glass window in the stairwell. At that point, he
43:40
Speaker 1: glanced behind him and saw a second intensely bright light
43:43
Speaker 1: move up and away from the window. Well. He couldn't
43:46
Speaker 1: see the source of the light, but it was clear
43:49
Speaker 1: to him that whatever it was, they were retreating. So
43:53
Speaker 1: he sat up in bed and remained vigilant for a
43:55
Speaker 1: half hour before finally laying back down, but this time
43:59
Speaker 1: placing his pistol under his pillow. It was just a
44:02
Speaker 1: half hour later, at about two a m. That the
44:05
Speaker 1: strange visitors returned, and, as Brett says, I felt the
44:10
Speaker 1: same presence in my mind. This time I left out
44:13
Speaker 1: loud because I knew who it was, and I thought
44:16
Speaker 1: it would be easy enough to break free. As I
44:19
Speaker 1: did earlier. I struggled to move, but this time they
44:22
Speaker 1: were immobilizing me with a higher frequency, and the coils
44:26
Speaker 1: in the toaster were vibrating at a very high pitch.
44:30
Speaker 1: But I was determined to at least see what or
44:33
Speaker 1: who was doing this, And finally I was able to
44:36
Speaker 1: move my head enough to see a gray alien, partially
44:40
Speaker 1: phased through the ceiling tiles, staring at me. The room
44:44
Speaker 1: was dimly lit, but enough for a good look. After
44:48
Speaker 1: a quick look, the room went dark and it disappeared.
44:52
Speaker 1: Now Brett feels pretty certain that this was a gray
44:55
Speaker 1: alien who was trying to take him that night, As
44:58
Speaker 1: he says, almost abducted by a gray alien. I have
45:03
Speaker 1: to believe it. Let me move to look at it,
45:06
Speaker 1: as they were prepared for me the second time. Me
45:09
Speaker 1: the most interesting aspect of that encounter is how the
45:13
Speaker 1: toaster seemed to sort of vibrate along with the buzzing
45:17
Speaker 1: sound or whatever was going on with this encounter. I
45:21
Speaker 1: also found it interesting that the witness felt that the
45:24
Speaker 1: ETS allowed him to see them. A number of witnesses
45:29
Speaker 1: do say this, so I don't know what to make
45:32
Speaker 1: of that, other than that ETS do want us to
45:35
Speaker 1: know that they are there or are contacting us. But
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Speaker 1: it was a pretty scary experience for him, as you
45:43
Speaker 1: can see. So now let's move to another case that
45:47
Speaker 1: was truly terrifying. I call this one it froze me
45:52
Speaker 1: in fear. This one occurred on the evening of November ninth,
45:56
Speaker 1: twenty ten, outside of Omaha, Nebraska. This is a multiple
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Speaker 1: witness case. What's interesting to me about this case is
46:06
Speaker 1: the description of the humanoid and once again, it affected
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Speaker 1: the witness profoundly in a way that really changed him
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Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. This case involves an
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Speaker 1: anonymous married couple who reported their encounter about ten years
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Speaker 1: after it occurred, with the husband providing his first hand
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Speaker 1: testimony of a truly fascinating encounter with an unusual humanoid.
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Speaker 1: I'll call him Wyat. That's a pseudonym. He says. It
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Speaker 1: was one eleven a m on November nine, twenty ten,
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Speaker 1: as he and his wife were taking an evening stroll
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Speaker 1: into a wooded grove near their home. Now, this is
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Speaker 1: something they had done many times, and they knew the
46:47
Speaker 1: area quite well. There were a few houses off in
46:50
Speaker 1: the distance whose lights were visible through the trees, and
46:54
Speaker 1: this is when they noticed shadows of figures darting through
46:57
Speaker 1: the trees, even though it was quite late. They assumed
47:01
Speaker 1: that there must be children playing in the woods at night,
47:04
Speaker 1: so they decided to get a closer look and perhaps
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Speaker 1: scare of the children as a kind of practical joke.
47:10
Speaker 1: Little did they know they would be the ones who
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Speaker 1: would receive a scare. As Wyatt says, we got close
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Speaker 1: to the trees and realized there were no children in
47:20
Speaker 1: the grove. No one could be seen at all. The
47:24
Speaker 1: grove was well lit, as there was a lot of
47:26
Speaker 1: moonlight and virtually no leaves left on the trees. As
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Speaker 1: we walked holding hands into the grove, we abruptly heard
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Speaker 1: a footfall in the leaves. At that time, the unknown
47:38
Speaker 1: entity crossed our path. They moved in glimpses as if
47:42
Speaker 1: under a strobe light only no light was given off
47:46
Speaker 1: as it crossed our path. It was visible one moment,
47:49
Speaker 1: then gone the next. This alternated. As it strode in
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Speaker 1: front of us, it smiled at us and appeared to
47:55
Speaker 1: be waving. I wasn't prepared for this and seeing it
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Speaker 1: in fear. The entity was a biped that stood taller
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Speaker 1: than me at five feet ten inches. It was completely naked,
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Speaker 1: though no genitalia could be seen, as you would imagine
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Speaker 1: a doll would look. The skin was a dark grayish color.
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Speaker 1: It had very small black eyes, which reflected the moonlight.
48:21
Speaker 1: Its ears were tight against its head and came to
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Speaker 1: a point. The jaw was bigger than any humans. The
48:27
Speaker 1: jawline went all the way up the sides of its
48:30
Speaker 1: head as if its smile started behind its ears. Almost
48:35
Speaker 1: rows of sharp white teeth were visible as it smiled
48:39
Speaker 1: at us. It had slits for a nose and they
48:42
Speaker 1: were slightly flared at the top. I can't remember how
48:46
Speaker 1: many fingers it had, but it definitely had digits that
48:49
Speaker 1: it held up as it waved at us. Now, this
48:52
Speaker 1: encounter was very brief, only a few minutes at most,
48:56
Speaker 1: but seeing how unusual the entity was, Wyat, who was
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Speaker 1: very athletic and about twice the size of his wife,
49:04
Speaker 1: grabbed his wife by the wrist and ran away as
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Speaker 1: fast as he could, practically dragging her out of the
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Speaker 1: grove of trees to an open soccer field near their
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Speaker 1: home and to the safety of the street. His wife
49:17
Speaker 1: immediately started screaming and saying go back, go back, and
49:22
Speaker 1: explain to him that she wanted to make contact with
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Speaker 1: this entity, but Kyle was too afraid and insisted they
49:28
Speaker 1: return to the house, which they did. Reaching the house,
49:32
Speaker 1: they stood in the doorway looking at the grove. With
49:35
Speaker 1: the entity apparently gone, they decided to separate themselves and
49:39
Speaker 1: write down independently what they had just experienced, and when
49:43
Speaker 1: they compared the details, they course matched perfectly. But for Kyle,
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Speaker 1: this encounter was particularly traumatic. As Kyle says, this event
49:55
Speaker 1: has affected my life very negatively. My family thinks my
49:59
Speaker 1: wife and I made it up or are just plain
50:01
Speaker 1: lying to get their attention. For a long time, I
50:05
Speaker 1: never told anyone but my closest friends and my immediate
50:08
Speaker 1: family for fear that people would think we were crazy.
50:11
Speaker 1: But it's come to a point that this itch in
50:14
Speaker 1: the back of my brain has gotten so bad I
50:17
Speaker 1: feel it necessary to tell others of what we saw.
50:20
Speaker 1: I've become so obsessed with searching the web for possible
50:23
Speaker 1: information on the existence of alien life that often spend
50:28
Speaker 1: hours of my time sifting through garbage on the Internet
50:32
Speaker 1: just to find someone somewhere who has seen an entity
50:35
Speaker 1: like the one I saw. Not knowing what this entity
50:39
Speaker 1: was keeps me up many nights, I have thought about
50:43
Speaker 1: every feasible possibility, a spirit, a human in a Hollywood
50:48
Speaker 1: style movie, makeup, a hologram projector or even an alien.
50:54
Speaker 1: To this day, not knowing eats at the back of
50:57
Speaker 1: my mind. I fully know aliens exist. With the vastness
51:02
Speaker 1: of space and countless stars in the universe, it becomes
51:06
Speaker 1: clear to me that we cannot possibly be the only life.
51:10
Speaker 1: Even now, I can feel my heart racing as I
51:13
Speaker 1: recall the event. Did I miss out on a one
51:16
Speaker 1: in a billion chance? To communicate with another intelligent life form.
51:21
Speaker 1: I only have one regret in my life, and that
51:24
Speaker 1: regret is not going back to find out for sure
51:27
Speaker 1: what it was. If I are ever going to communicate
51:30
Speaker 1: with beings like this, we need to have love at
51:33
Speaker 1: the center of our own awareness so we don't flee
51:36
Speaker 1: in fear for no reason. So yeah, this can be seen.
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Speaker 1: This encounter has affected Kyle very deeply, very profoundly, but
51:46
Speaker 1: he remains firm in what he and his wife saw.
51:49
Speaker 1: As he says, an unknown biped walked in front of us,
51:53
Speaker 1: waved and smiled. I am not crazy. I guess you
51:57
Speaker 1: could call that a gray etve. But even among grays,
52:02
Speaker 1: there's a huge variation of descriptions. What I found super
52:07
Speaker 1: interesting about the humanoid in that case is that the
52:11
Speaker 1: witness described this figure as having very sharp, pointed teeth.
52:17
Speaker 1: That detail doesn't turn up a lot, but a number
52:20
Speaker 1: of people who have seen grays and seen inside their
52:22
Speaker 1: mouths have described exactly that, so I found that a
52:26
Speaker 1: particularly interesting detail. All of these cases have again more
52:31
Speaker 1: questions than answers. Again, this is why I do this research,
52:35
Speaker 1: looking for answers, trying to figure out are these ets
52:40
Speaker 1: are we being visited. I think so. But again, I'm
52:43
Speaker 1: just presenting these cases as objectively as factually as possible,
52:48
Speaker 1: so you can make up your own minds about it.
52:51
Speaker 1: And now let's move to the final case. This one
52:54
Speaker 1: is also really profound. I just found this one so interesting.
52:58
Speaker 1: The witnesses were are clearly sincere, clearly very emotionally impacted
53:05
Speaker 1: by what they saw, and I think you'll find it
53:07
Speaker 1: a particularly compelling account. I call this one I made
53:12
Speaker 1: eye contact. This one occurred on the evening of August
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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty seventeen, out in the New Mexico Desert,
53:20
Speaker 1: along a remote highway near the small town of Nagizi.
53:26
Speaker 1: We've got the exact location of this encounter, which I
53:29
Speaker 1: think always is interesting to see. But wow, the description
53:34
Speaker 1: of the ets by the witness is very detailed, so
53:38
Speaker 1: I think you'll find it super interesting. The witnesses in
53:42
Speaker 1: this case were so impressed by what happened to them
53:45
Speaker 1: that they reported their case about two months after it occurred,
53:49
Speaker 1: but only on the condition of full anonymity. There are
53:53
Speaker 1: a couple in their mid sixties. The husband is a
53:56
Speaker 1: disabled veteran with heart issues, and he says it was
53:59
Speaker 1: around eight PM on August twenty five, twenty seventeen, that
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Speaker 1: they were driving a thirty seven foot diesel pusher motor
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Speaker 1: home heading at about sixty miles per hour southeast on
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Speaker 1: Highway five point fifty. This is just a few miles
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Speaker 1: south of Nagizi, New Mexico, and you can see the
54:19
Speaker 1: exact location here. Suddenly they saw a flash of light
54:23
Speaker 1: coming from the left hand side of the road ahead
54:26
Speaker 1: of them, and looking at the source, they got an
54:29
Speaker 1: incredible shock. A very brightly lit craft was hovering at
54:33
Speaker 1: eye level from their position in their motor home, right
54:36
Speaker 1: along the left side of the highway, about eighty feet
54:39
Speaker 1: ahead of them, and inside the craft, through what appeared
54:43
Speaker 1: to be an open window with no glass or plastic visible,
54:47
Speaker 1: two creatures sat side by side two feet apart. They
54:51
Speaker 1: could only see the front of the craft, the floor,
54:55
Speaker 1: the ceiling, and the panel behind the creatures glowed with
54:57
Speaker 1: intensely bright white light. They could see what looked like
55:01
Speaker 1: a small pole rising up from the floor in front
55:03
Speaker 1: of the beings, supporting what appeared to be a sort
55:06
Speaker 1: of control panel about the size of a carton of cigarettes.
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Speaker 1: The being on the left was resting his gopher looking
55:14
Speaker 1: hand is how the witness described it on this control panel,
55:19
Speaker 1: and he provided a drawing of what he says. The
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Speaker 1: ets looked very much like and as the nail witness says.
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Speaker 1: Both individuals had a skin toned about the same as mine.
55:31
Speaker 1: I am a white nail. They had large heads and
55:34
Speaker 1: an upside down tear shape, very large black eyes, a
55:38
Speaker 1: small mouth, and two small holes for a nose. There
55:42
Speaker 1: were holes for the ears, but only a nub for
55:45
Speaker 1: the ears. The one on the right had very smooth face.
55:49
Speaker 1: The one on the left appeared to be older, with
55:51
Speaker 1: facial lines. Their bodies were skinny and were illuminated with
55:56
Speaker 1: a greenish glowing uniform. There were a roll type cup
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Speaker 1: that also glowed, but were beige. The arms and torso
56:04
Speaker 1: were slender and about the diameter of a very small
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Speaker 1: child of six or seven years of age, long and skinny,
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Speaker 1: and appeared to be weak. They reminded me of stick people.
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Speaker 1: One detail that the witness reiterated was the hands of
56:19
Speaker 1: the beings reminded him of the hands of gophers with
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Speaker 1: claws that could be used as a lethal weapon if necessary.
56:26
Speaker 1: It appeared to him that while their bodies looked weak,
56:29
Speaker 1: the uniforms provided some strength to their body, but really
56:33
Speaker 1: it was their eyes which impressed him the most. As
56:36
Speaker 1: he says, my first thought was is this real. The
56:41
Speaker 1: closer we got, the more positive I was that what
56:45
Speaker 1: I was seeing was real. When I made eye contact,
56:49
Speaker 1: they were talking. When we interrupted them, the one on
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Speaker 1: my left wrinkled the right side of his mouth when
56:55
Speaker 1: he saw me. I made eye contact with the one
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Speaker 1: on my left, and I looked directly into his large
57:01
Speaker 1: black eyes. His eye was the finest surface I have
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Speaker 1: ever seen. The eye had no abrasions or scratches, no
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Speaker 1: dust or mucus. I noticed that under the surface of
57:12
Speaker 1: this perfectly clear outer surface of the eye was a
57:16
Speaker 1: grid of many individual eyes, like a fly's eye, but
57:20
Speaker 1: much smoother, like a superfine glass surface. Another thing that
57:26
Speaker 1: impressed the witness was the wall behind these creatures, which
57:29
Speaker 1: he said was very hard to explain, but he tried.
57:32
Speaker 1: As the witness says, the wall was very brightly illuminated.
57:37
Speaker 1: It appeared to be divided into about eighteen inch cubes,
57:40
Speaker 1: but it was a flat surface. The light seemed to
57:43
Speaker 1: be boiling along the edges of each panel in the
57:47
Speaker 1: colors of light, green, blue, and violet. The power heaved
57:51
Speaker 1: with its changes. It seemed the back panel was incredibly
57:55
Speaker 1: beautiful and something I'll never forget. The light was too
58:00
Speaker 1: bright for him to see the outer shape of the craft,
58:03
Speaker 1: but the strangest part was that there did not appear
58:06
Speaker 1: to be any windshield at all. As they drove alongside
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Speaker 1: this craft, the witness's hearing aids started screeching, and, as
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Speaker 1: he says, I felt I heard them communicating when we approached.
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Speaker 1: As the witness says, the moment I saw them, the
58:23
Speaker 1: individuals were looking down the road as if looking for
58:26
Speaker 1: something to arrive. There was a truck coming up the
58:30
Speaker 1: hill towards us, about one eighth of a mile away.
58:34
Speaker 1: The craft seemed to swing and rotate from the shoulder
58:37
Speaker 1: on the other side to a lane away and was
58:40
Speaker 1: at my side and maybe twenty feet away. Once they
58:43
Speaker 1: rotated enough that their faces were one hundred and eighty
58:46
Speaker 1: degrees to us, he saw us and disappeared. At this point,
58:51
Speaker 1: the witnesses looked behind them through their rear view side mirrors,
58:55
Speaker 1: but the craft was no longer visible. Later, the witness
58:58
Speaker 1: examined the area where they had seen this craft and
59:01
Speaker 1: noticed that the area where the craft had been hovering
59:04
Speaker 1: looked as if it had been recently bulldozed. It's not
59:07
Speaker 1: sure if this is a factor here, but it was
59:09
Speaker 1: strange enough to mention. They finally decided to report their
59:13
Speaker 1: sighting because, as he says, I would like to know
59:16
Speaker 1: what is going on there. That one does seem to
59:20
Speaker 1: involve typical grays, if there is such a thing as
59:23
Speaker 1: a typical gray. And you can see that this was
59:27
Speaker 1: really a terrifying and difficult to process experience for both
59:33
Speaker 1: of these witnesses. One detail that really struck me is
59:37
Speaker 1: how the witness felt like there was no windshield, no
59:42
Speaker 1: glass in this window with the ets looking out of it.
59:47
Speaker 1: I suspect that there was. It's just that they do
59:49
Speaker 1: have the ability to basically turn the walls of their
59:53
Speaker 1: craft transparent. People described this all the time. They don't
59:57
Speaker 1: see any glass, they don't see anything, so it looks
1:00:00
Speaker 1: like the ets are out there exposed to open air.
1:00:05
Speaker 1: Hard to say for sure, because there's certainly our cases
1:00:08
Speaker 1: like that where humanoids will climb under the top of
1:00:11
Speaker 1: a ufo or perhaps around a little balcony or rim
1:00:15
Speaker 1: or something along those lines, but certainly a fascinating case
1:00:19
Speaker 1: and one that deserves to be more well known. So
1:00:23
Speaker 1: there you go, ten cases. I'm guessing you probably haven't
1:00:27
Speaker 1: heard of most of these. I do like exploring these
1:00:30
Speaker 1: lesser known cases, and occasionally exploring some that are well known.
1:00:37
Speaker 1: But as the number of these cases add up, it
1:00:40
Speaker 1: becomes increasingly difficult to deny them, to explain them away,
1:00:45
Speaker 1: to debunk them with Really, we have a catalog of gosh,
1:00:50
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of these kinds of cases. So it's
1:00:54
Speaker 1: fine if people want to remain skeptical. But I think
1:00:58
Speaker 1: anyone who does this objective research and really takes their
1:01:03
Speaker 1: time to look into these cases without overlaying their own
1:01:07
Speaker 1: belief system on them, can only come away convinced that
1:01:10
Speaker 1: something truly profound is happening here. I think this is
1:01:13
Speaker 1: a really important subject. I think the whole world would
1:01:17
Speaker 1: change if all of humanity could just simply accept the
1:01:20
Speaker 1: fact that we are not alone, because that is certainly
1:01:23
Speaker 1: what the evidence is showing us. So that's it for today.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Thank you once again, guys. I truly appreciate you guys watching.
1:01:31
Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this episode, perhaps learned a little bit.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: Until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep searching
1:01:38
Speaker 1: for the truth and keep having fun. I will see
1:01:41
Speaker 1: you next episode. Bye for now, be good.