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#469 The Promise of Hope And Change; It Was All A Lie Of Course. Welcome To The Future, And It's 1984! With Tom Hampson · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Become who you Are podcast, the production of the John Paul 2 renewal center.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: I'm Jack Rigert, your host.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: I'm here with our good friend, your good friend Tom Hampson.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: The promise of hope and change, that's what we heard from Barack Obama and now Biden's trying to carry it out.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: It's all a lie, of course.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: It's twisting, the distortion of the truth.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: I know Jesus said in John 8, you know you're a liar and a father of lies.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: He said then a murder from the very beginning.
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: He called Satan right.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the future, and the future is 1984.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Buckle up and get ready for today's episode.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: I'm excited and grateful to have my good friend Tom Hampson on.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: Tom, you haven't been on the show for a little while.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: You've been doing some undercover work, and then you got sick and it's good to see you.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Glad to be back, Tom.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: I asked you to address today, illinois HB 4876, which is, if passed, parents Illinois parents will lose custody of their children be set, could be sentenced up to 15 years in prison, face fines of up to $25,000 for attempting to interfere with a clinical diagnosis made as a result of mandated mental health checks for minor students, this fall 2024, without notification to parents, without parental consent, by choice Anybody under 18, it gets crazy.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: Diagnosed medical conditions for mental health, hormone blockers, immunizations, abortions.
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: Tom, you know I have to before I throw it back in your court.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: I mentioned I was walking around yesterday and I hit.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: The sun is out and I'm walking on it on a nature trail and it's so beautiful and peaceful the birds are singing that I think, well, the world's okay, you know, the world's not so bad.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: And then I, you know, I go to a school board meeting and then I start to listen to what some of these kids are going through, what some of these parents are going through in these schools, and I have to say it's like I'm living in two different worlds.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: I, you know, I mean, how do we make sense of this time?
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Well there's, there's been a concerted effort for the last I would think it's more probably 30 or 40 years.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: There's been an effort to redefine terminology in an Orwellian way and it's accelerated in recent years.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Is this bill?
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: 4876 is one, for example, that wants to redefine what it means to be a child abuser.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: So parents would be child abusers if they deny their child primary care services, or if they deny them abortion services, or if they deny them gender affirming care services.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that kind of stands the idea of child abuse on its head.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: We generally intuitively know what abuse is and this is not it.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: These things that are defined in the law are are alien to what anybody would consider to be child abuse.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: Very much like in at the national level there's been an effort, or there is right now it's been redefined what sex means.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: In Title nine, the Biden administration has redefined sex to include in gender identity, so that here is a, here is a law that was passed in the 70s, that was established to ensure that girls had the same kind of sport, sports activities available to them as boys, and now, all of a sudden it's becoming you are a girl or a boy based on your gender identity, not necessarily based on your biological sex.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: So we have many boys playing on girls sports teams, who boys who have identified as girls playing on girls sports teams and really becoming to coming to dominate those teams and kicking the girls off of them, basically.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so let me just yeah, so, tom.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: So title nine was, you know they're, to protect girls, to give them the same opportunity to play sports as boys, and then really to protect women and girls from sexual harassment, discrimination, things like that.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Under this new interpretation, just to your point, everything's been thrown on its head.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Now men are given the opportunity to to walk into women's showers where they're changing on these sports teams, and to participate in sports and, like you said, dominate sports, you know, at various levels.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: And so, at the end of the day, they've taken the whole reason behind title nine, flipped it on its head and you're a bigot and a hater or you know, if you don't go along with this.
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: It's like I said, this is my walking in the woods one day understanding why title nine was there, and it seems like just the next day you come in and and now it's been totally flipped on its head where I'm back to pinching myself and saying can this be true?
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: And it is right.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: Well, now it's been and it's been legalized.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: It's kind of things have been legalized on the national level and they're coming down more and more to the local level.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: So for the most part, while this was, while these efforts were underway, in the last 30 or 40 years it's been pretty invisible to everybody, and recent years we've started to it's become more visible to the average person.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: So now women are walking into their, into the, into their health club, going into their, you know, to change clothes, to go to go work out, and there's a guy walking in there completely nude, who's identified as a woman and they can't do anything about it because the, because the feds in the state say that's perfectly okay, so he's a, he identifies as a woman and these are.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: So it's creating consequences that people are beginning to see we're starting to run into the wall and people are beginning to recognize it, but far too few people are seeing the consequences of what's coming.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: This is only the beginning of what's coming.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: So you think?
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: You think it's going to get worse.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's definitely gonna get worse.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and?
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Do you do?
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: You say that, tom, because you see more laws being passed and and you know what?
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: What?
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: When you say it?
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Look at your in on this all the time.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you've been doing your whole life, investigating this kind of stuff.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: Let me just throw this at you real quick before you answer.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: I Was mentioning right before we came on that when you, when you fall for a lie, when you accept a lie, a Boy, a man, can become a woman, a woman become a man.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Right when we accept a lie.
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: You mentioned chief justice on the, on the Supreme Court, justice on the Supreme Court that cannot define what a woman is.
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the highest court in the land and we and we put her on there and she can't define what a woman is.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: So so my point, right before we came on the era, was when we accept the lie we see this throughout history then it infects us.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: It's almost like an infection that goes on and then it continues to spread, and I totally agree with you.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: I think that this is the beginning and and but what are you seeing out there that that brings you to that?
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: To that point we say, yeah, this is gonna get worse or gets better.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: And I got a smile again, tom, because if I don't, I go crazy.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: I mean there's, there's some days.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: I just think I'm gonna go nuts if this stuff keeps up, right.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Well, the reason I think is gonna get worse is because, well, certainly there there can be some back and forth for a while, like if we, if we have a new administration that comes in and in 2025, okay that there'll be some relief at the national level.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: I think, if, if Trump gets back in, he will reverse this change of the definition and title nine, and so, from a federal level, a lot of this stuff will change, but, from at least in Illinois, it's not gonna change.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I don't see Illinois becoming any more conservative in the future.
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, though, the real problem is that these ideas have been taught to our children for decades now, and so the, the children who are in the next generation are already accustomed to looking at Sexuality as something that's mutable, that is, that is, on a continuum that that can change from one moment to the next.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: They're completely comfortable with this.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: They have no concerns, they think it's, they think this is normal that Children are being taught, and have been taught for quite some time, that you don't know if you're a boy or a girl until later, until you decide, until you learn this.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: Well, when you have so many of the children that are looking at this that way, we have a serious problem in the future.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: That's so I know that this is gonna happen in the future.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: 26% of kids who are in school right now identify as LGBT.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: This is at the college level, I believe right.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's in schools.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: Right now it's in the.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: At the college level there's some colleges have as many as 40% that identify as LGBT, but in and Jin Z is 20.8% Identify as LGBT, and so the one 20, almost 21% is that.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: Was that the number almost almost 21%.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: So the kids that are in school right now, it's almost, it's like 26% that identify as LGBT.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: Well, all of those kids have friends in the school.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: So basically, the entire, the entire culture of the school has grown to accept the fact that Gender, that sex, is not binary, that it is fluid, and then, in that there are multiple I gender identities, that there's dozens, hundreds maybe, of gender identity, some say that this, it's infinite, and that you can change from one thing to another from one day to a next.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: So kids are being brought up, teachers or teaching in an environment where children are comfortable with these really false ideas and they are going to, and they're going to carry with them, carry those ideas with them into adulthood, and so that's why I think that there's a, there's a danger ahead.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: Our kids are not being taught the truth.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: They're being taught something that is Evil.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Really, it's just it.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it's an evil thing to be kind and loving to everybody and say, oh, everything's cool and you're, you can be this or that or whatever, but it is indeed when you evil is something that is contrary to the truth, and so when you're teaching children clearly Something that's untruthful, it can be categorized as nothing other than evil.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: And now it just reminds me now again, when we accept the lie, we accepted the lie of the sexual revolution.
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: Now to your earlier point.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: This has been happening a long time.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: In the in the late 50s or in 60s it started, and we accepted that lie, right that that sex basically became meaningless and and even marriage started to come become meaningless.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: You know, and we had no fault, divorce came in.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: You know, in the inner cities, you know, people weren't even getting married.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that the 78 or 80 percent now of inner-city kids in Chicago growing up without fathers, 43% across the nation, these kids in school now, you know, half of them don't live with both by biological parents.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: So it's very easy to accept these lies, tom and and so this get.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: This came to my earlier point.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: When you accept the lie, when you accept just a small part of the lie, when you accept that abortion could be legislated this goes back into the 70s, right 73 is Roe v Wade.
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: So when I accept that lie, that becomes an infection in in our own hearts and it goes out into the culture, and so it can only get worse till we reverse this, we, you know it's almost like we have to reverse, injure this to give back to the truth of who we are as people.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, and, and I think, really long.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: This is a long-term problem to solve, it isn't?
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: something that can be.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point administration.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the people who are who are coming up are the young people coming up have been infused with these.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a yes, that's a great point.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: We're in, we're in for the long haul here.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: In fact, to your point, you know, trump did reverse these title nine things and stuff when he came in.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: When Biden came in, he Reversed them again right so it just shows you yeah, because a lot of this stuff.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: A lot of it really began under the Obama administration and when truck came in, he Reversed all that stuff and then and then Biden went back to the Obama, the Obama standard, and so we've been going back and forth like this, but in the meantime the schools have all been shugging along.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: They didn't change, they just kept.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: When the Trump administration came in, schools all over the country continued on this path of accepting the gender identity rather than binary sex, and so it was already.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: It was already ingrained in the system and the system.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: The Trump administration did not get down into the, into the bureaucratic Mechanisms to change all that stuff that has been changed by Obama.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we have the deep state.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: You know, talking about the kids being indoctrinated and look at, I don't want to have to expand probably too far into our conversation here, but we have the deep state so we can get rid of Biden.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Even Trump can go back in try to reverse this.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: But to your point, the deep state is there.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Same thing in the church we can get rid of Pope Francis and his sewing, his confusion to everybody.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: That's, that's in our church, you know, in the Catholic Church.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: But but I was, we, you and I were both at a conference a week or two ago with, with a lot of Incredible evangelicals, and they even mentioned the Catholic Church.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: You know the Catholic Church is giving up on on Certain teachings, which which in essence it's not, but because the spokesperson says it is, it gets accepted into Into, into the mainstream, you know, and so everything gets infected again and and people get taken out.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: You know there's gullible people out there that don't know their faith really and they're gonna get taken out next and say this is just another excuse to go along with the flow that you're you're unpacking here.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Well, and you you know from your dealing with young people you probably deal with a lot more young people than I do but they have come to accept the idea that that Homosexuality and lesbianism and bisexuality and all these different Gender identities, that they are normal, that they, the children, are born this way, that this is how they, this is how, basically, god made them, in some cases, to even say that this is, this is just the way they, they were born, and there's nothing you can do when these are simply not true.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: This is not true and there's been, there's been, a forced halting of research on how to Raise children in a healthy, heterosexual lifestyle.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: You know, in other words, from the that, what is causing these children to to believe that they are Same sex attracted.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: How, why are they becoming same sex attracted and what can we do to prevent that from happening?
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Because look at the birth rates in all, all Western Native, all Western nations, the birth rates are collapsing.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Even in China, the birth rates are collapsing.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Without, unless we have heterosexual people, the civilization is going to collapse and in our in our culture, in the United States, we will not have a United States, not because of the Population collapse, but because our cultural collapse.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You know we're, we're becoming.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: A culture can't survive when it lives on the basis of a lie.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see so, you know so.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: So now we have this.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what is this doing?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: This is attacking, you know, our biblical worldview of what marriage and the family is and what's you know, and all of civilization.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: You know what we're talking about here.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Tom is all through history, and Even to today, to your point right now, about, about birth rates collapsing.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: All Everything's, everything's built at the.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: The building cell of every society is marriage and the family.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: It has to be that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: These is where people come from.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: And now let's get back to this bill 4876, because this goes the next generation has brought up.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: These children that you do bring up into the world have to be your, your world, your your own personal Value system.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Right, my worldview to my kids has to be passed down to them.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I have to educate them, bring values and virtues to them, and I have to, I have to Pour this into them as young children.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Right now we're not doing that, and so what happens?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: You know we have a breakdown, and so that's what this law does, doesn't it?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: This law, hb 4876, and also this title 9, the new way to interpret title 9, it's all it's.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It's getting between parents and the family, isn't it?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Because let's, let's talk about, you know, you talked about three things primary care Services, right so?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Vaccines and things, abortion, a gender affirming services.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: So parents that push back against any of these things that the government is pushing on our kids, you know, this becomes against the law, it becomes against a lot.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So what are they doing?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So they're saying, okay, if there's a stable family that somehow, in this crazy culture, stayed together, that's trying to push there, there, you know not.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: You know I mean trying to push the yeah, this, these ideologies out and and bring these values and virtues into their own home.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Now, we're gonna go after them, and that's really what this does.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: It goes after those people that Actually are trying to educate their kids in the, in the truth of this biblical worldview, and that's what's being attacked now by all of these ideologies well, look at, let's look at the Primary care services and take a look at the vaccine, the COVID vaccine.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Okay when, when the COVID vaccine was developed, it was untested.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: They had no, they had no research.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: There was no, there was no recourse.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: If somebody suffered consequences from it, they were.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: The companies were immune from any any kind of lawsuits for putting out something that was dangerous.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: There was.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Many Scientists at the time were saying hey, you know, if you're, if you're healthy, if your kid is healthy, if they have no other medical problems, it's safer for them not to get the vaccine than to get it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You had medical professionals saying this what if a parent said, well, I'm not gonna let my child have this COVID vaccine?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Does that mean that the state could come in and declare them a child abuser?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Under this bill?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: They could.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: The same with HPV vaccine.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: There there's a movement to try to make HPV vaccine mandatory for all girls in schools.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: What about if it?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: What if the parent objects to that?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Well then, you could be charged with child abuse.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, abortion services.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: If I'm a Christian, I'm gonna teach my child that abortion really is not, isn't, isn't, acceptable for Christian.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: This is, this is a sin.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: This is sinful.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You're killing a human being, are, are, are they gonna say that that I'm a child abuser because I'm trying to save my child from From going down the wrong path.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He's sinful, that's exactly.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly what it is.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You know they're saying that you, you're, you have to save your daughter, you have to save your daughter's future and if not, you're an abuser.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: So if my daughter's pregnant and I don't allow her to be forced really by the schools to have and the government really to have an abortion or to have it behind my back, say I find out about it and I say no, honey, let's talk about this Now.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I am actually going against my daughter according to this, because now I'm ruining her life.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm ruining her life because now we have a baby involved, which is gonna change your life.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: When you have a baby involved, but there's such thing as called adoption, right, and you don't have to raise that child the rest of your life.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: But and so HPV vaccine, the abortion this is assuming that your children are gonna be sexually active right away in school.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And they're pushing the HPV vaccine down to young girls, I think today.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Right, oh yeah, very yeah.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like even into like I think in some places it's when they get into middle school or something they want them to have yeah, yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: There are many that are opposed to all these vaccines that are being given to the children For a lot of reasons.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the cumulative effect of these?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Does anybody even know?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Individually, I think they can say many of the vaccines are good, but cumulatively, what is it doing to a child's body, to their system?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to talk about that on another show because we're seeing the autism rates and the different things.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It's just a correlation, if you just look at a chart, the more injections that we're giving these kids and sometimes there's two, three and sometimes four different vaccines at one time being administered to children and, to your point, maybe one of them might be good and maybe one of them isn't, but you're giving them all to these kids and you're seeing some real problems.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: The real point is not whether or not they're good or bad.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: The point is whose values are the ones that are gonna be imposed here.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Is it the state or is it the parents?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Parents, for all of history, have had a really in.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: The Supreme Court has recognized the rights of parents to guide and control the education and upbringing of their child.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Now, all of a sudden, the state is getting involved in more and more different issues, that are, by redefining what it means to be abusive.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: In this case, it's abusive if you don't give your daughter, who thinks she's a boy, testosterone when she's 11 years old.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's think about that for a second.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You mentioned gender-affirming care now.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: So gender-affirming care for those of our listeners that may not be sure, that's just saying that if my daughter or son is confused about their sexuality, a boy wants to become a girl, I have to affirm them in that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So that's gender-affirming care.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: So the counselor, the therapist, is saying okay, honey, you're a girl that thinks they're a boy, and I have to affirm you in that and so.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: But here's how nefarious this is.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: We know that 85% of those young people that are confused in puberty, maybe early adolescence, but certainly it could start earlier than that with all this crazy culture going on, when my body's changing, as a nine, 10, 11 year old person, I mean, if my parents haven't told me that this is normal, it's not hard for some so-called expert at school teaching sex education that they're.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: You know we're non-binary and you're gonna have changes going on in your body.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: And if you're not comfortable with that, come see me because you may be in the wrong body.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: This lie is not so hard to get to young people.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Now, if my child does come home and I do find out that the school has given them a new name, a pronoun he's using a different name is actually gonna start them on puberty blockers.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: If I go against that, that means I'm going against this gender affirming care.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And again, this is the law that's going to say I can be imprisoned, I could lose custody of my kids and I could be fined.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And my final point on this that if talk therapy, which is sitting down with the kids and just going through coming up and showing empathy to them, talking them through this, 85% of those kids as they grow into adolescence and beyond, will accept their specific sex and be comfortable in their body 85%.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: So just common sense would tell me 85% of those 20% of those kids or 21% you mentioned earlier if just basically left alone, 85% will be comfortable.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yet we're gonna take all of those kids and say, no, you're brokenness, you know, or you're uncomfortable with this, and your parents, your parents, are not on your side.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's again.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I'm pinching myself as I'm speaking here, thinking this can't be real, but it is.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very hard to believe that our state is getting involved in these.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen to these children if you're declared as a child abuser?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Who takes care of them?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Who's the one that takes control of them?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Where do they go?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the purpose of this kind of thing?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: And we know Tom, you know this better than I in the foster system.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of sexual abuse going on in the foster system but we're putting them into a system where they have a very high chance compared to in a good, loving home of being sexually abused right.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: All of these kids who wind up being confused about their sexuality, even the children that come out, so to speak, as gay or lesbian.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: These are all vulnerable, sexually vulnerable kids.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: They are targets for predators, and they are easy targets for predators in most cases, because they are looking for acceptance, for comfort, for they're looking.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: There's something missing in their life that they're looking for and that makes them more vulnerable than the normal person.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: So the idea that when a child comes out and says, hey, I'm gay, you're supposed to celebrate that, or that I'm transgender, are you supposed to celebrate that?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Now, the first thing should be find out how that happened.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, what happened?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Because in most cases, these kids are acting out some kind of trauma that they've experienced.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's where that thought, that talk therapy, comes in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: You know, when you think about these national sex ed standards comprehensive sex ed, like here in Illinois that they're pushing down into the school systems, when we start to analyze those and you and I do this in a presentation called Stolen Innocence that we do when we analyze that and you start to look who's behind that, I mean, as we wind down here, tom, you want to just tell our listeners they probably know, but who wrote the national sex ed standards?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You know, just mentioning a couple of those you know, in the main, one I hope you're mentioned is Planned Parenthood yeah, they're all Planned Parenthood Advocates for Youth there's.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Seekus was very heavily involved in it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: These are all left-wing organizations.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: These are all people who are fully sold out to the idea that sexuality is a complete and total continuum, that I can be a guy today like I could tomorrow.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I could say it's normal if I said tomorrow that I'm a girl you know that I'm really a girl.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And that's perfectly okay, that there's nothing unusual about that at all, and when?
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you think about this.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean Richard Levine, who's almost at the top right, assistant Secretary.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Well, it's Richard.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But I mean, he calls himself Rachel, yeah, he calls himself Rachel.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So to your point, here's a father he had three kids, he was married who decided later on in life that he was a girl.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: He puts heels on, puts a dress on, dresses up as a woman and then he is in charge of our mental health services here in the United States.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And you know, he is just one bad looking woman, you know?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I mean he's just, he doesn't look like a woman at all.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: He doesn't talk like a woman, he doesn't walk like a woman.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But again we accept the lie right.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: If you believe something like that lie.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd look better to tell you the truth.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: You know, which is really shows you what Rachel Levine is like.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You know it's amazing, but you know you think about this.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: We accept that lie and this is what the government's doing, right?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: We accept that lie we accept that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: We put a justice on the Supreme Court that accepted that lie.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Then we push this into schools.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Orwellian.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You know if George Orwell didn't read that you would think this is something new.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But this has been coming for a long time, you know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: But it's good versus evil at the end, you know, it's just a worldview.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: When you take God out, you take the biblical image out, and I think this is an important point.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Then you know GK Chesterton said if you don't believe in God, it's not like you believe in nothing, you'll believe in anything.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And that's where we're at.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: That's exactly where we're at and that's a shame for our next generation.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm really concerned for the parents 30 years from now and their children, because there's something that has gone terribly wrong in our culture and it's our fault.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: We need to do something to correct it while we still can.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I always say, and you do too this is just really justice for kids.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: You know, when we speak out and if we don't tell the truth, this is an injustice to children, who you know, look at at the end.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: At the end they can choose.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: You know what they wanna do.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: They can either choose a biblical worldview or go in and fall as far as they want.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's since Adam and Eve, you know we've been given freedom, but what's unjust, I believe, is that they never hear the truth.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It's unjust to them because what choice do they really have?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: See, I don't have a choice between good and evil.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: If all I'm showing is evil, is a fallen world essence, right?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So all I know is I have a choice between all of these LBGTQISS.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Those are my choices, that's what I'm heard, I hear as a kid.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Now I can become heterosexual, sexual, but you know, then I'm pushed down, you know, and what's being built up?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: You know, then I'm a white racist, and especially if you have a Christian worldview.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: So I wanna eliminate that, I wanna slap a label on myself.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And so I think those are my choices, and where the injustice comes in is if they're not at least provided the truth.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: In other words, a child is taught okay, you know, here's the biblical worldview, here's the secular worldview, and you know, choose one at some point.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You know it's your responsibility, as you grow older, to be able to discern and choose what's true, what's good and what's beautiful.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: But what's unjust is we're not doing that, tom.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: You know we've taken it totally out of the government schools, and so what do we do?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And the parents have abdicated their responsibility to those schools, so they're not doing it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: The church is scared, or even in on the action.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And so who's telling the kids the truth, tom?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And so I think you know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: What you just said is we have to stand up and tell them the truth.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Somebody has to and at least give these kids a chance to live a normal life, you know, but you know what the forces of government like they have so often through history.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Once the government comes down, it becomes a totalitarian system.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: You have a dictator at the top and, just like communist China, you don't have a choice anymore.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you know I do blame that all of us are responsible for this because we have dropped the ball so severely.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: You know, at the time of our revolution, when the founding fathers wrote the Federalist Papers, those were published in newspapers.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Everybody read them everybody talked about it, you know.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Now people don't even know what the federal's papers are.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Much less.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Normal, regular things that are happening in our schools.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: People are so completely uninformed about everything that it's really pathetic.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's no excuse for it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Even the churches.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: They do not address these issues.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: There was I.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't see a single church.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: When they, when they, when they passed the national sex ed standards as a requirement for Illinois schools, with the option the school boards being able to opt out if they wanted to.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: But when they first adopted that, when they when that Camels knows got into the tent there, there was no, not one single church came out publicly and and Said anything about that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: They didn't stand up and say, hey, this is a bunch of crap, this has got to stop.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: This is not acceptable.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: We don't, we don't agree with this and our legislators is better, better, drive a stake through the heart of this, this monster, or you won't be elected next time.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: And none of them said anything like that.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I have to stick up a little bit for our Bishop here in Rockford, bishop Malloy, who right away did write letters, a couple different letters, to all the Catholic schools to make it clear when he stood on this and to push back and make sure that was not in the schools when he could have went further to.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Your point is make sure those pastors are talking about this at the pulpit and, and that's where I think we really let the ball down.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So we have, we eliminated the problem at least in the school systems here in In the Rockford diocese and and we have good bishops, good Bishop down south to with paparazzi, and they're doing the same thing.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: But they, the voices, need to stand up to your point and really push back and say guys, you know, this is unacceptable and you cannot vote for people to push these radical ideologies down on kids, abortions, down on on People, same-sex marriage, I mean this is all goes against our teaching and if you don't do that, you, you, you give into the lie.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And when you give into the lie just like our earlier point is it the infection comes in and it's allowed in well, they have to stand up for what's right and wrong.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, has to be, and, and I don't think there's any other organization beside the church that can do it effectively.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: No, I agree still, a majority of people Claim to be Christians, and if and if, well it's actually less than 50% this last couple years, which is kind of sad yet it fell below 50% and it's and I don't know you know how many years exactly they changed, but the more recent surveys coming out now have us down under 50%.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: so Well, that's pretty bad, but never the less, there's still a substantial number, that's still yes.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Our Christians and the church had better start.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: There's a name for them they're called it the pluribals.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's the pluribals right, but they better start and and you know so you have like guys like Eric I'm a top of the taxes wrote that wonderful book.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: You I saw him give a talk at IFI, illinois family Institute.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: He did a great job challenging the church.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I know Matt Walsh, who's a Catholic guy, has been had written books years and years ago about the same thing, calling the church cowards and.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't see it happening, especially with the Pope that we have now in the Catholic Church.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Now, tom, you're an evangelical and and but I tell you, those pastors I saw at IFI Institute the last week with you, they were strong, they were really strong and and they were disappointed it that the about the Catholic Church not speaking up and having their backs and in a Certain way too, and we need to come together.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Those pastors were good, weren't they?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: They that's very strong.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: They all took a beating for this, you know, in their careers and different things.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: You know they it's not easy defending these things in the culture, but at the end of the day and Nancy Pierser wrote a wonderful book, if anybody's interest at love thy body, a which which which kind of goes very John Paul II, the Alzi, the body, which I talk about a lot, and Love thy body, would have a lot of things in common, you know.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: So, again, pushing back on all these ideologies, getting back to a biblical worldview and you see how beautiful it is, tom.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah right.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I think what you start to see that the violence and the destruction in our culture, even getting down to young people with hopelessness in the inner cities and stuff.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Now, if they don't have hope, then they become hopeless, then they're just gonna grasp and take and and this is what we're seeing, you know, and in our whole culture, huh.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's, I think, the church, the the bottom line is that the church needs to step up and and and take a central role in pushing back against these, against the redefinition of words and and against this Decline of our culture that we're seeing, because there's there is no future without the church.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, all right, tom.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna wind up there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: We got plenty of other things we could talk about, but let's, let's get back to anybody that hasn't read George Orwell's 1984 for a while.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Go read it, you're gonna see.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: All this animal farm is another good one.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: It's just a short book that he wrote.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: That's very good.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: All those Huxleys, a brave new world there's another.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Gives you another slant on all this craziness.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: But they saw this stuff coming, you know, and, and our prophets have seen this, this, this, coming all the way through.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing, tom, but I just didn't see think we'd see it again our country, our beautiful country, come down over these issues.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: But it certainly looks like that's.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That's where we're headed, brother.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah enjoy the sunshine way you can right you know, because there's not a lot of sun in that, in that prison cell where parents are gonna be if they don't get if data, if they let these laws go through right.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: All right, tom hey, thanks for being with us.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us, everyone talked.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody again soon, bye, Bye.