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Ian Furness 10/26 H3: Mike Sando, Talkbacks, texts and Fact or Fiction, plus a visit with Softy. · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 2: Among the other things that the Seahawks did along the way.
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Speaker 2: Mike Sando joining us here from The Athletic. The Pick
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Speaker 2: 6 column is up, ready to rock and roll, and
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Speaker 2: here we go. It's time to talk to all things
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Speaker 2: NFL and take a tour of the league. Hi, Mike.
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Speaker 2: How are you?
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Speaker 3: Good, how are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm very good. Let's just start with impressions
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Speaker 2: from what you saw on Sunday Night Football last night
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Speaker 2: with the Seattle Seahawks and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: I mean, just such great domination by Seattle. I'll tell you,
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Speaker 3: the way it's been going with the turnovers lately, Darnold
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Speaker 3: was just threading the ball in there, and I was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: that was close. You're almost like a little bit, you know,
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Speaker 3: you're feeling that one of these might go the other way,
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Speaker 3: but it really didn't, except for that one time right
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Speaker 3: before the half. So to me, the takeaway is, This
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Speaker 3: is a really tough team to beat when they don't
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Speaker 3: beat themselves. We've kind of known that, but this is
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Speaker 3: a dominant team. Really, the only way they've lost is
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Speaker 3: when they give the other team credit for making plays.
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Speaker 3: But when they are risking the football with silly stuff
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Speaker 3: like what happened against the 49ers, that's the only way
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Speaker 3: that it can kind of go the other way, it
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Speaker 3: feels like.
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Speaker 2: You wrote a little bit about Brian Fleury today. What
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Speaker 2: did we learn from him this weekend?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was obviously a much better performance.
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Speaker 3: And last week, I think a lot of us were
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Speaker 3: looking for a little more urgency or even accountability with
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Speaker 3: the things he was saying. He kind of sounded like
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Speaker 3: he was happy with the way things were going. But hey,
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Speaker 3: you know what? Maybe he was right because it looked
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Speaker 3: pretty good. I think it'll be interesting to give a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a closer look and see what changed.
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Speaker 3: I think there were probably a couple of things maybe
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Speaker 3: different in the run game. But all in all, you've
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Speaker 3: got to feel like Darnold seemed to have answers quicker.
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Speaker 3: He seemed to play faster in the game. Just my
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Speaker 3: impression watching it. So, hey, you got to tip your
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Speaker 3: cap there. I think he was under some pressure and
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Speaker 3: had a great game.
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Speaker 2: The Seahawks defense we know is elite. How surprised were
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Speaker 2: you to see the Chiefs scoring just three points, never
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Speaker 2: getting in the red zone, 213 total yards? I mean,
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Speaker 2: all these things that Mahomes had never– scene happened to
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Speaker 2: him before. And oh, by the way, remember the story
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Speaker 2: last week? I think we all do. We all live
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Speaker 2: in the area. The whole story was Ken Walker. Hell,
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Speaker 2: they did a whole pregame fake movie bit trailer with
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Speaker 2: Ken Walker returning here to Seattle, and he had 36 yards.
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Speaker 2: How surprising was that to see Andy Reid's offense?
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Speaker 3: I thought there was a good chance he wouldn't get 100,
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Speaker 3: because Seattle's just really good defensively, but I thought he
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Speaker 3: would get closer to 100 than 50, right? I thought
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Speaker 3: he'd have a decent game, and and that it would
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Speaker 3: be a closer game for sure. I thought it could
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Speaker 3: be a little nerve-wracking game late, so it wasn't any
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Speaker 3: of those things, and you can certainly in retrospect say, hey,
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Speaker 3: they're missing both their tackles in Kansas City, and they
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Speaker 3: were missing receivers. Okay, but they had that back, and
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Speaker 3: they still had Kelsey, and they still had Mahomes, so
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Speaker 3: it wasn't like Seattle could take really anything for granted lately,
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Speaker 3: so I think it was probably a you know, a
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Speaker 3: very affirming game, one they really had to have, one
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Speaker 3: they needed more than Kansas City needed, and they got it.
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Speaker 3: So it really puts them, I think, back on track.
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Speaker 3: And that was nice for them, too, the 49ers lost.
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Speaker 2: Very nice. Explain this to me. You wrote about this.
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Speaker 2: How was this Seattle's defense's fourth best outing this year
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Speaker 2: by EPA. Like that's crazy. That's nuts.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 3: So, but we can kind of see that. So, so
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Speaker 3: in their games that they lost, um, the defense was
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Speaker 3: amazing and they, they had three or four turnovers in
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Speaker 3: every one of those games and still lost by, I
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Speaker 3: think a total of eight points in the three games,
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Speaker 3: the average team would lose by 27 points in those games.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 3: And so the difference between losing by 27 across the
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Speaker 3: three losses and losing by eight is your defense. It's
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Speaker 3: a dominant defense. I mean, they're holding the Sean Payton Broncos,
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Speaker 3: I think it was under three yards of play. They
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Speaker 3: shut down the 49ers. I mean, yes, there's a couple
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Speaker 3: of drives late that the 49ers got some stuff going,
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Speaker 3: but they've played great the whole year, I think is
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Speaker 3: the point. And you can argue, okay, maybe this is
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Speaker 3: more impressive or that was more impressive, but this was
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Speaker 3: not a new performance by this defense. It's just When
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Speaker 3: they've been even average on offense, we see 31-7 against Arizona.
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Speaker 3: We see 20-3 in this game, which should have been more.
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Speaker 3: They had the interception in the end zone. Should have
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Speaker 3: at least got three, probably seven. So that's what it is.
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Speaker 3: The defense, to me, has been there the whole time.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the 49ers, Mike. At some point, injuries do
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Speaker 2: catch up. The Mike Evans injury, is that one that's
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Speaker 2: going to be hard to overcome?
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Speaker 6: Well, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think they're not even close to the same without him.
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Speaker 3: And now Christian McCaffrey... was having some trouble getting going
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Speaker 3: in the game too. He hurt his thigh. I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure the severity is of that, but to me, that's
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Speaker 3: just a matter of, that's going to happen throughout the season,
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Speaker 3: especially to older veteran players. It's why Mike Evans was available.
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Speaker 3: So they've got to figure out a way to, you know,
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Speaker 3: get him right. And then probably maybe they pitch count
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Speaker 3: him a little bit throughout the season to have him
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Speaker 3: ready for the playoffs. Cause they're going to make the
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Speaker 3: playoffs and they're going to be a good team right
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Speaker 3: in the end. They may even win the division. We'll see,
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Speaker 3: but they have to have him. to go anywhere once
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Speaker 3: they get to the postseason.
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Speaker 2: You wrote a little bit about, because they got beat
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Speaker 2: by Atlanta. Atlanta now 3-4. They're a different team with
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Speaker 2: Michael Penix. There's no doubt about that. And the defense
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Speaker 2: stepped up. Carolina is 3-3, just gets absolutely annihilated yesterday,
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Speaker 2: gets boat raced. Is the NFC South, is that a
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Speaker 2: two-team race? Or is there a chance that Tampa can
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Speaker 2: crawl back in it? New Orleans doesn't show the same record,
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Speaker 2: doesn't show the same signs of life, but It feels
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Speaker 2: like the NFC South, in kind of a perverse way,
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Speaker 2: is wide open. Now, we'll get to the NFC North
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Speaker 2: and East. They're kind of the same way with the
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Speaker 2: exception of maybe Washington. All those other teams are involved.
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Speaker 2: But the NFC South is intriguing in terms of maybe
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Speaker 2: a three-team race.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think you pick a team and I'll take the field.
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, the Saints haven't been able to run
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Speaker 3: the ball and stop the run. They don't look ready,
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Speaker 3: but they have the same record as Tampa Bay. They've
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Speaker 3: been close in a lot of these games. So they
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Speaker 3: just look like they haven't been trending in the right
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Speaker 3: direction in their style of play. is concerning asking too
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Speaker 3: much of the quarterback. But, you know, some of these
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Speaker 3: other teams... Now, I don't know what Carolina really has
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Speaker 3: to hang their hat on either.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 3: Other than, I guess, you know, the quarterback, Bryce Young,
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Speaker 3: has played better. They have a good receiver. But their
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Speaker 3: offensive line is hurting. Their defense is hurting. Just from
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Speaker 3: an injury standpoint, I don't know what their staying power
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Speaker 3: is going to be. And they've been inconsistent. They've given
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Speaker 3: up 59 and 43 points in two of their games.
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Speaker 3: And to me, that screams volatility and you can't trust them.
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Speaker 3: And remember, they won the division last year at 8-9.
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Speaker 2: So I really.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind being Atlanta probably right now of all
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Speaker 3: those teams that, you know, you're still going to be
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Speaker 3: in a situation where Michael Penix has to last through
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Speaker 3: the year. He's if he starts next week at six
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Speaker 3: in a row, it matches a career best for him
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Speaker 3: in a season. So that's a big concern. But you
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Speaker 3: feel I feel like kind of both sides of the
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Speaker 3: ball have been pretty good at various points, unlike the
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Speaker 3: other team where it's kind of been one or the other.
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Speaker 2: The NFC East will feature two teams tonight in the
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Speaker 2: Eagles and the Dallas Cowboys. Both are 2-4, and both
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Speaker 2: are probably saying, how in the hell are we looking
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Speaker 2: up to the New York Giants right now? And that's
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Speaker 2: what they're doing. Washington, sorry, Dan Quinn, you can probably
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Speaker 2: kind of look ahead, and I guess for him, hopefully
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Speaker 2: he looks ahead for next year. But, boy, it almost
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Speaker 2: feels like tonight Philadelphia and Dallas is close to an
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Speaker 2: elimination game, and we're not even to November yet.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it does, but it's another where they're all
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Speaker 3: bunched up and there's no one's going to really run
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Speaker 3: away from them. That's why when people ask, hey, are
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Speaker 3: the Eagles going to make a bunch of trades at
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Speaker 3: the deadline and get rid of players? I mean, maybe,
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Speaker 3: but I think they can win the division. Don't you
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Speaker 3: think if.
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Speaker 2: You're even in the division right now? Even without Jalen Hurts?
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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, we'll see what type of
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Speaker 3: ball they play, but probably not. But I think they
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Speaker 3: need to see, do they get rolled in this game tonight?
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Speaker 3: What if they win or what if it's close? Jalen Hurts, obviously,
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Speaker 3: your starting quarterback matters, but I don't know that he's
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Speaker 3: been great either. I guess I need a couple more
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Speaker 3: weeks to feel like which teams are going to bow out.
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Speaker 3: It's just too close and you don't think the Giants
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Speaker 3: are that great.
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Speaker 2: Well, Dallas is struggling defense. If they can't stop Philadelphia
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Speaker 2: without their starting quarterback and probably their best wide receiver,
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Speaker 2: then they're... Christian Parker experiment's really going to go downhill,
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Speaker 2: I think, at that point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't get a bye until week four. either.
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Speaker 3: The 49ers get a bye right now. You've got to
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Speaker 3: rest up. I think Seattle had the mini bye off
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Speaker 3: the last game, and they had some things to figure
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Speaker 3: out offensively, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It feels like Dallas or some of these teams could
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Speaker 3: use the break right now to figure it out. They've
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Speaker 3: lost three out of four. They're only two and five
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Speaker 3: on the season. And the schedule does open up for them.
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Speaker 3: They're going to have Arizona, Indy, and Tennessee for Dallas,
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Speaker 3: at least, over the next month or so. So, you know,
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Speaker 3: they may still pull their way.
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Speaker 6: Out of it.
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Speaker 3: I guess if you could beat any one team in
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Speaker 3: that division to try to make it, would it be them?
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Speaker 3: Would it be Dallas? I mean, maybe, but it's kind
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Speaker 3: of another situation where you take one and I'll take
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Speaker 3: the field.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Mike Sando joining us, The Athletic. Did you
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Speaker 2: have Minnesota as the last unbeaten team? at the start
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Speaker 2: of the year?
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Speaker 3: Really did not at all. Man, their defense is good, though.
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Speaker 3: Minnesota's going to play a tougher schedule coming up, so
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Speaker 3: that's going to even out. As I wrote today, they're
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Speaker 3: going to have to be better than they are on offense.
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Speaker 3: I think right now they're 29th. They're going to have
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Speaker 3: to get into the low 20s on offense to be
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Speaker 3: a team that can really realistically do something in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that happens, but I think there's going to be
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Speaker 3: inconsistency with that quarterback. So a fascinating situation there with
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Speaker 3: Nolan Teasley, former CX front office guy as the GM.
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Speaker 3: It's his team, but it's not really his team he
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Speaker 3: put together. Yet here they are 6-0, trade deadline, need
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Speaker 3: help on offense. But you're really trying to build this
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Speaker 3: thing right for the long term. Like how do you
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Speaker 3: handle that? I think it's fascinating.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I want to bring it up because
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Speaker 2: for those who don't know, Nolan Teasley was a longtime
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Speaker 2: Schneider lieutenant, so to speak, here in Seattle. I mean, that's,
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Speaker 2: and we were, One of the many guys that John's
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Speaker 2: had in that front office who were just like, it's
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Speaker 2: not a matter of if, it's a matter of when
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Speaker 2: he's going to get that job in that seat that
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Speaker 2: he had been working towards along the way. And when
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Speaker 2: you kind of alluded to that, what's the trade deadline
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Speaker 2: going to look like or how aggressive may they be? Well,
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Speaker 2: Schneider's pretty aggressive if he thinks he needs something or
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Speaker 2: is going to go get something. We've seen that with
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Speaker 2: the Ernest Jones, Leonard Williams, Rashid Shaheed just in the
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Speaker 2: last few years. I mean, he'll go at it. I'm
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Speaker 2: curious to see if Teasley has that same philosophy as
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Speaker 2: his mentor did.
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Speaker 3: Do they need a back now after Aaron Jones got hurt?
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Speaker 3: I don't know how bad that is. I haven't seen
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Speaker 3: that yet today. But the hardest part is they could
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Speaker 3: probably really use a quarterback, and that's a hard thing
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Speaker 3: to trade for. Are you going to really bring back
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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins at age 38? People are going to hope
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Speaker 3: they'll swing a deal for Justin Herber, but I don't
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Speaker 3: think that's realistic. So Kyler Murray may be as good
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Speaker 3: as what you're going to get. And then that puts
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Speaker 3: its own sort of ceiling on things as it is.
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Speaker 3: What more are you going to add offensively? that's going
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Speaker 3: to make a huge difference. So, you know, maybe they,
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Speaker 3: maybe they add, but I don't know they're going to
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Speaker 3: give up a ton of big assets.
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Speaker 2: Mike, I saw a name that you printed this morning
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Speaker 2: and I was like, I had to take a double take. Eric,
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Speaker 2: is it Zaire?
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Speaker 3: Eric Zaire.
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Speaker 2: Zaire. Well, 1995, that was the year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you were so young then.
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Speaker 2: I think I was chilling in Tri-Cities working for the Americans,
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Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken. Tell people who Eric, how do
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Speaker 2: you say it again?
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Speaker 3: Zier.
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Speaker 2: Zier. Tell people who is he and why is he relevant?
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Speaker 3: So in week eight, we're going to have the Steelers
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Speaker 3: and the Browns playing for sole possession of first place
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Speaker 3: in the division. For the first time, I think it's
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Speaker 3: the first time that the Browns have been in first
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Speaker 3: place in a division at Halloween since 1995 when Bill
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Speaker 3: Belichick was a coach and with Vinny Testaverde benched, Eric Zier.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 3: Was the starting quarterback in the middle of the season.
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Speaker 3: So that's a long time when even, you know, look,
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Speaker 3: you've been following sports closely, following the NFL closely. And
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Speaker 3: you're like, who is that again? You know, a quarterback.
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Speaker 3: We can name almost all the certain quarterbacks, but that's
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Speaker 3: how long ago it was and how obscure it is.
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Speaker 2: I was going to guess if you would have said, hey,
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Speaker 2: when Cleveland was last in first place and doing well,
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Speaker 2: who was the quarterback? I would have said probably Derek Anderson.
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Speaker 2: So I thought they had like a little, a little
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Speaker 2: like one year run with Derek, with DA that the
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Speaker 2: former Beaver star. And then, you know, it kind of
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Speaker 2: went south. I honestly, I think it's just a great story. I, we,
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Speaker 2: we talked about, I don't even know why it came up.
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Speaker 2: We were talking about Cleveland, Ashley on the show. Was
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Speaker 2: it two weeks ago? Uh, we were somehow brought up.
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Speaker 2: I think we're talking about like different places to go. And, and,
14:22
Speaker 2: you know, I've.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 7: Cause you brought up the rock and roll hall of
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Speaker 7: fame and something.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it came up and I, Mike, I just, I
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Speaker 2: love the fan base there. I, when I covered it there,
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Speaker 2: it was borderline insane. Um, borderline terrifying at times as well.
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Speaker 2: The fans are right up against the press box. Um, Uh,
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Speaker 2: I ended up buying the mustard, the stadium mustard ash.
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Speaker 2: I got two, two of those things from, uh, from
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Speaker 2: the stadium.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Great stuff. But I think it's a great story. Good
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Speaker 2: for Cleveland, Mike. I think honestly good for the NFL,
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Speaker 2: for a fan base and a franchise. I know they
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Speaker 2: left for a while, but a franchise like that to
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Speaker 2: be sitting at five and two right now.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And, and all of them with like fourth quarter comeback wins.
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Speaker 6: Exactly. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Cardiac kids type of a season. So, uh, beats the alternative.
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Speaker 3: They've certainly lived on the other side of that. They're
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Speaker 3: 4-0 in games decided by three or fewer points, which
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Speaker 3: is like impossible to do, but they've had it coming.
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a fantasy football thing because
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Speaker 2: people are concerned about such things, but I'll bring it
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Speaker 2: up anyway to wrap things up. What's the story out
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Speaker 2: of Baltimore with Lamar Jackson and the ankle injury? He's
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Speaker 2: good to go. He's not good to go. He doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to go out there in a league that celebrates
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Speaker 2: playing through pain, and he decided it'd be better if
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Speaker 2: he sat out.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is a confusing one. I feel like
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Speaker 3: they haven't had clear, concise communication of his injuries going
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Speaker 3: all the way back to when Harbaugh was there too.
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Speaker 3: So now you go, okay, maybe the training staff is
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Speaker 3: the common denominator, but Lamar Jackson is. And he seems
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Speaker 3: like one of those guys who is obviously different in
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Speaker 3: terms of what he can do physically. I mean, what
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Speaker 3: he can do with his legs and run. And he
15:56
Speaker 3: doesn't feel, he seems like kind of, to use a
15:59
Speaker 3: car analogy, the Ferrari that's really tuned up, it's like
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Speaker 3: he doesn't want to drive on a dirt road. He
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Speaker 3: wants to feel like he's himself. And so that's why
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Speaker 3: I think it's looked like maybe he's going to play
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Speaker 3: and he's practicing, but then he's not going to go.
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Speaker 3: So one of the things I looked at in the
16:21
Speaker 3: column was like, does he have a point? I mean,
16:22
Speaker 3: are they actually, when he plays hurt, is he so
16:25
Speaker 3: bad that they're better off with their backup? And I
16:28
Speaker 3: think last year, Statistically, they were better with the backup
16:31
Speaker 3: compared to when Lamar was on the injury report. But
16:34
Speaker 3: I think longer term, they've been better with Lamar. And
16:37
Speaker 3: I think as a team that could use some leadership
16:41
Speaker 3: right now, I think even they have said that coming
16:43
Speaker 3: out of that game yesterday. I think the coach said
16:47
Speaker 3: that the man getting him back would be a huge
16:50
Speaker 3: boost for a team that just keeps losing these second-half leads.
16:54
Speaker 2: It's crazy what's going on there. Great stuff, as always.
16:56
Speaker 2: Mike Sandel's Pick 6 column is up in the Athletic.
16:59
Speaker 2: Click on the NFL tab. My algorithm just goes to
17:02
Speaker 2: the front page on Monday mornings, which tells you that
17:04
Speaker 2: we're checking it out. In the meantime, thanks for joining us.
17:07
Speaker 2: On with Chuck and Anders and company later this week,
17:09
Speaker 2: so we'll look forward to that. In the meantime, have
17:10
Speaker 2: a great rest of your week, Mike. Thank you. Thank you.
17:12
Speaker 2: That is Mike Sando from The Athletic, theathletic.com. Love his
17:15
Speaker 2: stuff every week. His column is fantastic. Great tour around
17:18
Speaker 2: the NFL with a lot of insight from executives and
17:20
Speaker 2: coaches throughout the National Football League. Philadelphia tonight and Dallas. Two,
17:26
Speaker 2: two and four teams. Someone's going to be two and five.
17:29
Speaker 2: Mike's right. Because of the Giants leading the division, it
17:31
Speaker 2: won't be necessarily an elimination game for the NFC East.
17:34
Speaker 2: And you keep an eye on the NFC East because
17:37
Speaker 2: if you're the Seahawks... That may be someplace you have
17:39
Speaker 2: to travel if you go to a wildcard game, right?
17:41
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. None of those teams look fantastic, although
17:45
Speaker 2: the Giants, all of a sudden, do they have a
17:46
Speaker 2: quarterback in J.J.
17:47
Speaker 6: McCarthy?
17:48
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to get into that with Mike,
17:49
Speaker 2: but Damn, J.J. McCarthy looked good yesterday, of all things.
17:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, which was surprising.
17:53
Speaker 9: I don't think it's an elimination game, but it is
17:56
Speaker 9: a train wreck, and I kind of enjoy watching it.
17:58
Speaker 2: There's a part of me that wants to see Dallas
18:00
Speaker 2: lose just because the Jerry Jones factor and his post
18:02
Speaker 2: games are phenomenal. But then Sirianni and Philadelphia losing at
18:07
Speaker 2: home to Dallas. Yeah, they're just going to lose their minds.
18:09
Speaker 2: So one way or the other, someone's going to lose
18:10
Speaker 2: their mind tonight. And I'm here for that. That makes
18:12
Speaker 2: for fun and Monday Night Football. We'll have that for
18:14
Speaker 2: you here on KJR. 5.15 kickoff right after Softee Fane
18:17
Speaker 2: and the Jackson Felts experience. We'll take a break, come back.
18:19
Speaker 2: More text, talk backs as well next.
18:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had lost a little bit of confidence in
18:35
Speaker 5: this team, admittedly, after the back-to-back losses and even the
18:38
Speaker 5: loss to Washington. But in hindsight, the Niner game, we
18:43
Speaker 5: very easily could have won that game We were right there.
18:47
Speaker 5: The Denver game, weird, short week, Darnold bad. And the
18:52
Speaker 5: Washington game, similar to the Niner game where.
18:54
Speaker 2: It was right there.
18:55
Speaker 5: So I think this was a reminder that this team
18:59
Speaker 5: still is very good.
19:01
Speaker 2: You know, real quick, Ashley, I almost called you Jess.
19:04
Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
19:05
Speaker 6: It's all right.
19:05
Speaker 7: Wouldn't be the first time.
19:06
Speaker 6: Not for you.
19:07
Speaker 7: For other people.
19:08
Speaker 2: You're my... you know, able assistant, according to the text.
19:10
Speaker 7: I am just taking notes over here.
19:12
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. By the way, my assistant.
19:17
Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, I did get your dry cleaning.
19:19
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that.
19:21
Speaker 6: Yeah.
19:21
Speaker 2: Light starch hangers. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's awesome.
19:24
Speaker 6: You're welcome.
19:25
Speaker 2: I mean, and make sure you go home. Make a
19:27
Speaker 2: nice dinner for Mark.
19:28
Speaker 7: Oh, it's already done.
19:29
Speaker 2: Okay.
19:30
Speaker 6: Ready to go.
19:30
Speaker 2: Do all your chores.
19:31
Speaker 4: Yes.
19:32
Speaker 7: I'm halfway through.
19:33
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that education you got at a fine institution.
19:36
Speaker 7: I think that's why I got it. Wasn't it?
19:38
Speaker 5: It was.
19:39
Speaker 6: It was.
19:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mentioned that to my wife every night as well.
19:42
Speaker 8: Yes.
19:42
Speaker 7: I'm sure that goes over very well.
19:44
Speaker 2: It goes really well. I don't have an assistant at home.
19:46
Speaker 2: I don't have an assistant here. I have great people
19:48
Speaker 2: I work with, including my friend.
19:50
Speaker 5: Ashley. All right.
19:51
Speaker 2: What was I going to say? Oh, the reason you
19:53
Speaker 2: probably lost, I don't know, for me, the reason I
19:55
Speaker 2: would have, like, I don't know about losing faith, but
19:57
Speaker 2: the self-doubt creeps in because your offense has been awful. Like,
20:02
Speaker 2: there's never any doubt in the defense. But your offense
20:05
Speaker 2: has been awful. Hell, there was a couple games in
20:08
Speaker 2: which Mr. Dependable Michael Dixon's just okay. You're like, what
20:12
Speaker 2: the hell's going on here? Like Super Bowl hangover or what?
20:15
Speaker 2: So I think it's fair people were starting to get.
20:18
Speaker 6: A little worried.
20:18
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can look at those losses and say, okay, well,
20:21
Speaker 9: they were all like three and two point losses.
20:24
Speaker 7: So we're just beating ourselves. But then you're like, but
20:25
Speaker 7: are we going to be able to fix it?
20:27
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're a bad fan either, by the way.
20:29
Speaker 2: It means you're just passionate. Continue.
20:31
Speaker 10: I still feel exactly as confident as I did before.
20:33
Speaker 10: My opinion didn't change because I said before, the first
20:37
Speaker 10: four to five games of the season is kind of
20:39
Speaker 10: fool's gold. It takes time for these teams to kind
20:42
Speaker 10: of gel with how the shortened preseason and the adjustments
20:45
Speaker 10: to the training camp. Also, too, the Seahawks started the
20:47
Speaker 10: exact same way last year. Everybody's ready to jump off
20:51
Speaker 10: a cliff like lemons. By the way, I said Walker
20:53
Speaker 10: wasn't the beast last year.
20:54
Speaker 6: It was Charbonnet.
20:55
Speaker 2: But Walker almost was in his starting position. So I
20:57
Speaker 2: just proved to be right.
20:58
Speaker 6: Thank you.
20:59
Speaker 2: You know what? It's good to be right. And I'm
21:01
Speaker 2: glad you're right because all those things are true. The
21:03
Speaker 2: only problem is... The math in the NFL is simple.
21:06
Speaker 2: You can't mess around the first few games. Because if
21:10
Speaker 2: you do, it might cost you a home field advantage.
21:11
Speaker 2: It might cost you a division title. It might send
21:14
Speaker 2: you on the road for the playoffs. It might even
21:16
Speaker 2: cost you the playoffs, which that's kind of the end goal.
21:23
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald was 10-7 his first year, but remember, they
21:25
Speaker 2: got eliminated before they kicked off that 17th game.
21:27
Speaker 4: Right.
21:28
Speaker 2: With a winning record at 10-7.
21:29
Speaker 9: And as Seattle sports fans in general, we come close
21:32
Speaker 9: a lot in some sports, and we don't get there.
21:34
Speaker 7: So you kind of don't want to leave it up
21:36
Speaker 7: to chance.
21:36
Speaker 2: I think you... Help me out here. I might be wrong.
21:40
Speaker 2: Help me out here. But I do believe, I do
21:43
Speaker 2: believe that the games in September are like baseball games
21:48
Speaker 2: in April and May.
21:49
Speaker 7: Correct. They do matter.
21:50
Speaker 2: Do they count the same? They don't have anything like.
21:53
Speaker 7: But also like baseball... It is still early.
21:55
Speaker 2: Oh, it's early.
21:56
Speaker 8: Oh, God.
21:57
Speaker 2: Thanks, Sean Figgins.
21:57
Speaker 6: You're welcome. Next.
21:58
Speaker 8: Ian, Ash, feeling much better about this team. I loved
22:04
Speaker 8: watching Sam Darnold's decisiveness, the involvement of the tight ends,
22:10
Speaker 8: and really the evolution of more of a simplistic offense
22:15
Speaker 8: that played to their strengths and allowed the defense to
22:18
Speaker 8: be who they are.
22:20
Speaker 2: A lot of work to do.
22:21
Speaker 8: But I feel like this was a statement when they
22:23
Speaker 8: needed to get back on track.
22:24
Speaker 2: Love you guys. Thank you. Maybe Softie and Dick will
22:27
Speaker 2: get into it later with you. We didn't get a
22:28
Speaker 2: chance to talk about the A.J. Barner game yesterday, but boy,
22:31
Speaker 2: just some really nice plays. I mean, just needed that
22:36
Speaker 2: so bad, right? And they got that. So, yeah, I
22:39
Speaker 2: don't know. There's a lot to decipher from all that yesterday,
22:44
Speaker 2: but I think that was it. We got a couple more?
22:45
Speaker 5: Yeah.
22:46
Speaker 6: All right, fire away. Hey, guys, Chip here.
22:47
Speaker 11: I am so excited because I think yesterday was a
22:49
Speaker 11: very telling win. for the Seahawks because if you lose
22:52
Speaker 11: that game, now you're thinking, okay, we lose to Washington
22:55
Speaker 11: who we should have beat. We can't hang with the
22:58
Speaker 11: good teams because Kansas City just beat us at home
23:00
Speaker 11: in a primetime game. So who can we beat? Where
23:03
Speaker 11: are the wins going to come from in the schedule?
23:05
Speaker 11: Yesterday's win shows, okay, maybe those were aberrations. Now once
23:08
Speaker 11: we gel, we can hang with anybody and get going.
23:11
Speaker 2: You heard it here first.
23:12
Speaker 6: We are about to go on a run.
23:13
Speaker 2: And yes, we're going to win the division. Heard it
23:16
Speaker 2: here first, baby.
23:17
Speaker 7: He cut out on division.
23:19
Speaker 2: All right, we got one more.
23:19
Speaker 3: Fire away.
23:20
Speaker 7: All right, hold on.
23:20
Speaker 6: Here we go. Hey, Ian.
23:23
Speaker 4: Depressed Seattle sports guy. I'm just depressed because seeing a
23:28
Speaker 4: good organization ran last night when things come together makes
23:32
Speaker 4: me think of the team next door at T-Mobile. Chuck's
23:36
Speaker 4: best friend, Jerry DePoto, and the god-awful things he does.
23:42
Speaker 2: I don't know.
23:42
Speaker 4: I took a line bike from there to T-Mobile and
23:44
Speaker 4: just drove by and waved because there's no meaningful games
23:48
Speaker 4: played right now.
23:51
Speaker 2: So depressed. So depressed. So depressing. World Series is taking
23:55
Speaker 2: place tonight.
23:55
Speaker 4: Yep.
23:55
Speaker 7: Game three.
23:56
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24:48
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Speaker 7: That's right. We're going to turn it around.
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Speaker 2: Turning it around. Last week, lost the first game of
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Speaker 7: Thanks, John Lund, for the advice.
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Speaker 2: BYU minus 6.5 at UCF. Yeah, the emotional letdown came
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Speaker 2: He went against me later in the week. Also, I
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25:31
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25:37
Speaker 2: Thursday pick?
25:38
Speaker 7: Seahawks minus 2.5.
25:41
Speaker 2: Never a doubt. My Utes came away and smacked Houston
25:47
Speaker 2: minus six and a half so we were three and
25:48
Speaker 2: two last week this week we start a new week
25:50
Speaker 2: you're going to text fact if you agree with the
25:52
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Speaker 2: to win Ashley is helping me this week this is
26:05
Speaker 2: kind of a collaborative effort.
26:07
Speaker 7: I think we should do this we're a team right.
26:09
Speaker 2: Yes at some point Minnesota will probably lose they play
26:13
Speaker 2: at Detroit this week They're an underdog as an undefeated,
26:19
Speaker 2: alone undefeated team. Getting three points. We're going Minnesota plus
26:23
Speaker 2: three at Detroit. If we win, I don't want to
26:27
Speaker 2: take credit. If we lose, I'll take the blame.
26:29
Speaker 7: I think you should take credit.
26:31
Speaker 2: I'm just leaning on you for this pick because my
26:33
Speaker 2: picks have been so bad. This is as much Ashley,
26:36
Speaker 2: if not more, than it is me. I'll just tell
26:37
Speaker 2: you that when you're texting Fact or Fiction. Because that
26:40
Speaker 2: does come into play with the standings. Ashley is above 500.
26:44
Speaker 2: She's one of two people, along with Greg Bell, that's
26:47
Speaker 2: above 500 this year.
26:49
Speaker 9: Although Greg really diminished my skills this morning and was like, well,
26:54
Speaker 9: she's 7-6.
26:55
Speaker 7: Look at my record.
26:57
Speaker 2: He picks Army every week.
26:58
Speaker 8: Yeah.
26:58
Speaker 9: I was like, I actually was looking. I was going
27:01
Speaker 9: to have you take Army, just to really.
27:03
Speaker 2: Well, if I was on a show before my wife,
27:05
Speaker 2: just to... But yeah, Ashley and I are going again.
27:09
Speaker 2: Very easy pick. Simple, so easy. Minnesota plus three at Detroit. Fact, 49451.
27:12
Speaker 2: If you disagree, fiction, 49451. We've got to get a win. God,
27:19
Speaker 2: we need a win.
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Speaker 7: We're going to get one.
27:21
Speaker 2: We will.
27:21
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to happen.
27:22
Speaker 2: I thought about doing my normal.
27:23
Speaker 7: We're going to get more than one.
27:24
Speaker 2: You asked me about chasing. And I thought about it.
27:27
Speaker 5: I know.
27:28
Speaker 2: But I don't have a good feel for this game tonight.
27:30
Speaker 9: I don't have any faith in either of these teams.
27:33
Speaker 9: You would think it should be pretty easy. The Cowboys
27:35
Speaker 9: are going to win. The Eagles are without Jalen Hurts.
27:37
Speaker 9: But the Cowboys will find a way to cowboy it.
27:40
Speaker 2: Chuck took Dallas, Philadelphia under 44.
27:44
Speaker 9: See, and I would have taken the over, potentially.
27:47
Speaker 2: Dallas' defense under their new D.C. Christian Parker has not
27:50
Speaker 2: worked out well.
27:51
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I'm like, I don't know that I would trust.
27:53
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a real low-scoring game. But at the
27:56
Speaker 9: same time.
27:57
Speaker 7: I don't know anything.
27:57
Speaker 2: Some of us need a Javante legacy game. So let's
28:00
Speaker 2: root for that in a C.D. Lamb legacy game and
28:02
Speaker 2: a Dak Prescott legacy.
28:03
Speaker 4: Game all at once.
28:04
Speaker 6: I could use a C.D.
28:04
Speaker 7: Lamb and Dak Prescott. Good stuff as well.
28:07
Speaker 2: Legacy game for those guys all the way around. Yeah,
28:09
Speaker 2: I didn't have a feel for that, so we're not chasing.
28:11
Speaker 6: Nope.
28:11
Speaker 2: It's a change in policy on the show.
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Speaker 7: We're trying to be smart.
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Speaker 2: Change in policy. Minnesota plus three. Fact at Detroit. 49451.
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Speaker 2: it in right now, 49451 Minnesota Plus 3 at Detroit.
28:39
Speaker 2: We'll check in with Softie. He's down at the Emerald
28:41
Speaker 2: Queen Casino next. All ready then?
28:56
Speaker 6: Here he is.
28:57
Speaker 2: Dave Softie.
29:02
Speaker 6: How are you?
29:03
Speaker 2: How are you feeling today?
29:04
Speaker 5: Swell.
29:04
Speaker 1: Good.
29:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.
29:05
Speaker 6: Fired up.
29:06
Speaker 2: All right. All right.
29:07
Speaker 6: What about you?
29:08
Speaker 2: Well, good.
29:08
Speaker 4: Good.
29:09
Speaker 2: You said you were having a good time yesterday, as
29:10
Speaker 2: I'm asking.
29:11
Speaker 6: I was having a good time yesterday.
29:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
29:13
Speaker 6: I loved it.
29:13
Speaker 5: Yeah.
29:13
Speaker 2: That was fun.
29:14
Speaker 6: Loving every minute of it.
29:14
Speaker 2: That was fun.
29:15
Speaker 8: That was fun.
29:15
Speaker 6: It was like Loverboy. Loving every minute of it.
29:18
Speaker 4: Love.
29:20
Speaker 2: Vancouver Band, if I'm not mistaken, right? Just from north
29:22
Speaker 2: of the border, right up there in BC.
29:24
Speaker 9: Yeah.
29:24
Speaker 6: I mean, that was a hell of a performance, man.
29:27
Speaker 12: That was an epic all-world performance against your boy Patrick Mahomes.
29:31
Speaker 2: That was a beatdown, my friend.
29:33
Speaker 6: That was a beatdown.
29:34
Speaker 12: Who's the idiot ex-chief that came out, Dieter somebody, and
29:37
Speaker 12: said it was like a fluke or whatever?
29:39
Speaker 2: Wait, what? What?
29:40
Speaker 6: Who's this? Come on. What are you talking about?
29:44
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I've got to find it.
29:47
Speaker 6: Somebody mentioned it to me that he was tweeting about it.
29:49
Speaker 6: I don't know. Whatever.
29:50
Speaker 2: You know what? There's a win in the column. You
29:53
Speaker 2: can just move on.
29:54
Speaker 6: Yeah. It doesn't really matter, man.
29:55
Speaker 2: Was his name Dieter? Dieter?
29:57
Speaker 6: I believe it was, yes.
29:58
Speaker 12: Like an ex-chief receiver, I think somebody mentioned it.
30:02
Speaker 6: Oh, sorry. Gehrig Dieter.
30:04
Speaker 2: Who the hell are you?
30:05
Speaker 6: Gehrig Dieter.
30:06
Speaker 7: Oh, Derek Jeter?
30:07
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter.
30:08
Speaker 7: Oh, that makes sense.
30:09
Speaker 6: Not Derek Jeter. Gehrig Dieter. Wasn't he in Die Hard,
30:13
Speaker 6: Gehrig Dieter?
30:14
Speaker 2: Maybe.
30:14
Speaker 6: Was he a German guy in Die Hard?
30:16
Speaker 2: Who the hell are you? Nobody cares.
30:18
Speaker 6: Gehrig Dieter. I'm going to look it up right now.
30:19
Speaker 12: He says that it was Seahawks are a fluke team,
30:24
Speaker 12: bad game by the Chiefs, not impressed by Seattle.
30:27
Speaker 6: Says Gehrig Dieter.
30:30
Speaker 2: There's fluke games all over the place. That didn't feel
30:32
Speaker 2: like a fluke when you never see the red zone.
30:34
Speaker 6: Yeah.
30:35
Speaker 12: Former wide receiver. Yeah, never saw the red zone. Had
30:38
Speaker 12: 11 first downs. Patrick Mahomes is pressured on.
30:42
Speaker 6: What, 54%? I thought I saw it was of his dropbacks. Wait, wait, wait.
30:46
Speaker 2: Stop. Stop right there.
30:48
Speaker 8: Yeah, 54.
30:48
Speaker 6: How about that? No way.
30:49
Speaker 2: You can't make that up, sir. You can't make that up.
30:52
Speaker 6: You know what? I'm sorry. It wasn't 54. It was 53.
30:55
Speaker 6: But we can round up if you want. Round up.
30:56
Speaker 2: Round up.
30:57
Speaker 6: It was 54. For us, it was 54.
30:59
Speaker 7: Fewest points scored with Patrick Mahomes in five years.
31:02
Speaker 6: Yeah. Tied for the fewest overall, right?
31:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:05
Speaker 7: But no, Seattle's not impressive.
31:07
Speaker 2: No, that was a fluke. It was a fluke. I
31:09
Speaker 2: don't know what he does.
31:10
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I know they're missing some guys. I
31:12
Speaker 6: get it.
31:12
Speaker 2: So is Seattle. Seattle is too, right? I do believe.
31:15
Speaker 2: Like running backs.
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Speaker 6: Not as many as the Chiefs were. Well, no. They're
31:18
Speaker 6: missing a lot of guys.
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Speaker 2: They're missing a bunch.
31:20
Speaker 6: I will admit that. But that's fine.
31:23
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm sure there's been games before where my
31:25
Speaker 12: homies has missed a ton of guys and he still
31:28
Speaker 12: was able to work his magic and put up some points. So,
31:30
Speaker 12: I mean, it'd be different if the Seahawks defense was
31:32
Speaker 12: like terrible last year and didn't win the Super Bowl.
31:35
Speaker 6: And then they went and shut him down. You could say, oh,
31:37
Speaker 6: that's kind of a fluke. That defense isn't very good.
31:40
Speaker 12: This defense has been phenomenal for two years under Mike McDonald. Like,
31:44
Speaker 12: what are you talking about?
31:45
Speaker 6: I hate that. Garrick Dieter.
31:47
Speaker 2: Dieter, Dieter, Dieter, Dieter, Dieter. Dieter Brock. Well, and I
31:51
Speaker 2: hate that. Dieter Brock is a good reference. I hate
31:53
Speaker 2: the points against stuff, too, because I saw stats say, like, Seattle's, like,
31:56
Speaker 2: seventh in points against.
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Speaker 6: Well, it includes what you did on offense.
31:59
Speaker 2: And that's the problem. Your offense has scored points for
32:01
Speaker 2: the opposition more than... The defense has given up for
32:03
Speaker 2: goodness sakes, right?
32:04
Speaker 12: I think if the opposing offense has a drive that's
32:08
Speaker 12: less than 10 yards, that should not count on your
32:11
Speaker 12: scoring defense ledger.
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Speaker 2: Including the fumble in the end zone, the pick sixes,
32:15
Speaker 2: stuff like that.
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Speaker 6: Pick sixes, fumbles in the end zone, safeties. None of
32:20
Speaker 6: that stuff should count. Shouldn't count.
32:22
Speaker 12: This was the number one total offense in the NFL, guys,
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Speaker 12: going into yesterday's game.
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Speaker 6: Were they not?
32:28
Speaker 2: They led the league in yards per game. We mentioned
32:31
Speaker 2: last week, it's like, okay, number one offense against number
32:33
Speaker 2: one defense. Does that sound familiar?
32:35
Speaker 5: Yes.
32:35
Speaker 2: Super Bowl XLVIII, does that not sound familiar?
32:37
Speaker 6: And I believe also in the NFC Championship game.
32:40
Speaker 2: That's right.
32:41
Speaker 12: Was that not number one versus number one in the NFC?
32:43
Speaker 2: That probably was the case, yeah. With the MVP of
32:46
Speaker 2: the league in Matthew Stafford last night.
32:49
Speaker 12: You always want the number one defense. Always, always, always.
32:53
Speaker 12: We've been a part of that on both sides. I
32:54
Speaker 12: was a part of it for the UW-Michigan game. I
32:56
Speaker 12: was a part of it for the Super Bowl. We
32:59
Speaker 12: were a part of it last night. I had some
33:00
Speaker 12: moron tweet me yesterday because I was complimentary of the
33:03
Speaker 12: Chiefs offense.
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Speaker 6: There's no metric that says the Chiefs are the best.
33:06
Speaker 6: They are. It's called total offense.
33:08
Speaker 2: There's no metric.
33:09
Speaker 6: They were number one. Now, if you want to dismiss
33:11
Speaker 6: total offense like Dick does, that's fine. But they were
33:15
Speaker 6: number one in the NFL in total offense. And I
33:17
Speaker 6: think fourth in scoring offense, by the way. And they
33:20
Speaker 6: shut him down.
33:22
Speaker 2: I'm just, I got to check. So metric. So it's
33:24
Speaker 2: a metric, right? The guy didn't like the metric?
33:27
Speaker 12: There was no metric that says they're number one, except
33:28
Speaker 12: for the one that said they were number one in
33:30
Speaker 12: total offense.
33:31
Speaker 6: That one did say they.
33:32
Speaker 2: Were number one. They're number five as of today. They
33:36
Speaker 2: were higher before that yesterday. In EPA. That's a metric, sir.
33:42
Speaker 2: That's a metric, so they were among the best in
33:47
Speaker 2: the league. In fact, they were probably number two, I
33:49
Speaker 2: think it was, before yesterday.
33:50
Speaker 12: Really, I think it needs to be discussed. Would you
33:53
Speaker 12: rather win a Lombardi Trophy... Or the DVOA championship?
33:57
Speaker 6: DVOA, yeah.
33:58
Speaker 2: Just making sure. Yeah, I think.
34:00
Speaker 6: Just making sure.
34:00
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure they've won it a few times. I'm
34:02
Speaker 2: just looking. Next time I'm out there, I'll have to
34:03
Speaker 2: look for the DVOA Lombardi. You know, where's that at?
34:06
Speaker 6: You know what?
34:07
Speaker 12: I think if you win both in one year, then
34:09
Speaker 12: you should get to acknowledge it. But if you don't
34:11
Speaker 12: win both, then it's kind of lame.
34:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
34:13
Speaker 2: Take your numbers.
34:14
Speaker 6: We didn't win the.
34:14
Speaker 12: Super Bowl, but we won the DVOA title. Here's a
34:17
Speaker 12: plaque from Doug Farrar.
34:20
Speaker 2: Our buddy Doug. Our buddy Doug. Oh, Dougie.
34:24
Speaker 6: What's he doing now?
34:25
Speaker 2: I think he's doing the same stuff, DVOAs. I think
34:28
Speaker 2: he's doing the same stuff.
34:29
Speaker 6: Is he okay, by the way? You know, is he okay?
34:32
Speaker 2: I think so.
34:32
Speaker 4: Why?
34:33
Speaker 12: Because I saw his, like, what's the profile photo on
34:36
Speaker 12: Twitter called? Avatar, is that what it's called?
34:38
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah.
34:40
Speaker 12: I saw his profile came across my feed, and I
34:45
Speaker 12: saw his face, and I.
34:46
Speaker 2: Was like, I think he lost some weight. I think
34:48
Speaker 2: he looks good.
34:49
Speaker 4: Okay.
34:50
Speaker 2: Last time I saw him, he looked good. Yeah.
34:52
Speaker 6: I think he was just doing something weird for the
34:54
Speaker 6: camera that day.
34:54
Speaker 10: Yeah.
34:55
Speaker 12: I don't know.
34:55
Speaker 6: Now you're going to look it up, aren't you?
34:57
Speaker 2: Guess what I'm doing?
34:58
Speaker 7: I already did.
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Speaker 6: Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
35:03
Speaker 7: I think he's just making a weird face.
35:04
Speaker 6: That's what I thought. Exactly. That's what I thought.
35:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what I thought.
35:08
Speaker 6: I like Doug. Doug's a good guy.
35:09
Speaker 2: Doug's a good dude. Yeah, he's just making a weird face.
35:12
Speaker 6: Okay.
35:12
Speaker 2: God, you know what he looks like there?
35:13
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask him. You okay? Yeah.
35:16
Speaker 2: The avatar picture, he kind of looks like our buddy
35:19
Speaker 2: Darren Brown from Sound of Hockey. I don't know if
35:21
Speaker 2: you know who Darren is.
35:22
Speaker 6: I do.
35:22
Speaker 2: Darren Fun Brown. Darren Fun Brown. Looks like Darren Fun Brown.
35:25
Speaker 4: You know what?
35:26
Speaker 2: All bald guys look the same.
35:27
Speaker 6: Pretty much. Pretty much.
35:31
Speaker 2: Ashley, do you think I'll get yelled at on Twitter
35:33
Speaker 2: or on the text line for that? All bald guys
35:36
Speaker 2: look the same?
35:36
Speaker 9: I don't know that the people that, unless the people
35:38
Speaker 9: that were angry earlier are bald, in which case they're
35:40
Speaker 9: just going.
35:40
Speaker 6: To be offended by anything. People are angry?
35:43
Speaker 2: You know what, though? My assistant Ashley took care of it.
35:45
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're angry because we're not fans of Harrison Butker.
35:47
Speaker 2: Yes, Butker. I like his name, though. I kind of
35:50
Speaker 2: like his name.
35:51
Speaker 6: I like Harrison Butker.
35:54
Speaker 2: I like his name.
35:56
Speaker 6: His whole thing that he did got totally taken out
35:58
Speaker 6: of context, but whatever.
36:01
Speaker 2: Sort of, yeah.
36:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you can't read the whole speech.
36:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure you can.
36:05
Speaker 2: Listen to it. I didn't even listen to my speech
36:08
Speaker 2: at my graduations.
36:08
Speaker 6: I mean, you should talk about that. Let's talk about that.
36:11
Speaker 6: You should.
36:12
Speaker 2: Softie's got thoughts on Harrison Butker. 49451. Misogynist or not,
36:19
Speaker 2: yes or no, your reaction, 49451, don't worry about the
36:23
Speaker 2: game yesterday.
36:23
Speaker 6: I vote no. I don't know.
36:24
Speaker 7: I'm sitting next to him like, no, don't do it.
36:27
Speaker 2: Don't worry about the game yesterday.
36:28
Speaker 12: Just take calls on Harrison Butker for two hours. Millen
36:32
Speaker 12: will be on at four to share his thoughts.
36:35
Speaker 2: Was the win overrated by Seattle? Is it a nothing
36:37
Speaker 2: burger and you should move on because Kansas City really
36:39
Speaker 2: not that good?
36:40
Speaker 3: Your thoughts.
36:40
Speaker 12: What are your thoughts on Harrison Butker and are the
36:42
Speaker 12: Hawks frauds?
36:44
Speaker 2: Fraudulent win. You know what? If we were voting in
36:46
Speaker 2: the top 25, I would not give the Seahawks a
36:49
Speaker 2: first-place vote.
36:50
Speaker 12: Hey, by the way, speaking of that, I know we've
36:52
Speaker 12: got to go here real quick, right? What's giving you
36:55
Speaker 12: that impression? Because it's like 2.54. You've been to a
36:58
Speaker 12: couple of Holy Wars, right, Ian?
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Speaker 2: A bunch of them, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Did you hear what time the BYU-Utah game is being played?
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Speaker 5: No.
37:04
Speaker 6: 10 o'clock in the morning, Mountain Time.
37:06
Speaker 2: That's fine.
37:06
Speaker 6: 10 a.m.
37:08
Speaker 2: That's fine. Oh, so is it a Big 12? No,
37:11
Speaker 2: they're on Big 12 networks. It's at 10 o'clock in
37:14
Speaker 2: the morning. Yeah, so 9 a.m.
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Speaker 6: Pacific.
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Speaker 12: Who the hell is going to schedule that for 10 o'clock?
37:18
Speaker 6: It's a huge game.
37:20
Speaker 2: Massive game. Huge. That's stupid.
37:22
Speaker 6: My God.
37:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dumb. That's really dumb.
37:25
Speaker 6: All right.
37:27
Speaker 2: I will say that there's not as much tailgating there
37:29
Speaker 2: as you would see at maybe a normal game.
37:32
Speaker 6: When it's in Salt Lake, there is, right?
37:33
Speaker 2: A little bit more. Yeah, a little bit more in
37:35
Speaker 2: Salt Lake. Not in Provo. Not in Provo.
37:37
Speaker 6: No, sir.
37:37
Speaker 12: If I were a Utah Ute fan and I was
37:40
Speaker 12: tailgating outside Rice Eccles and I saw a BYU fan
37:43
Speaker 12: walk by, I'd walk up.
37:44
Speaker 6: Hey, you want a beer? Sike.
37:46
Speaker 2: Hey, if the BYU fan was by himself, you know
37:48
Speaker 2: what he'd say?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yes.
37:49
Speaker 6: He'd say yes. Exactly. Is your name Jack?
37:52
Speaker 2: Okay, here come the more text, 49451. There you go.
37:54
Speaker 2: Softy doesn't like the LDS church. What do you got
37:59
Speaker 2: coming up today?
37:59
Speaker 6: I was married to a Mormon gal. And you got divorced.
38:03
Speaker 2: You don't like them. What do you got coming up?
38:05
Speaker 12: You at four, a little more at four, a little
38:07
Speaker 12: fun with audio, our BRC golden moment from the weekend,
38:11
Speaker 12: which if you're a Seahawks fan, you're going to love,
38:13
Speaker 12: by the way, at 445. And then Eagles-Cowboys at five
38:18
Speaker 12: with our buddy Kevin Harlan.
38:19
Speaker 6: Who's going to be here next week.
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Speaker 2: Oh, nice. There you go. All right.
38:22
Speaker 6: See you.
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Speaker 4: Bye.
38:22
Speaker 6: See you.
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Speaker 5: Bye.
38:23
Speaker 3: For the mild-mannered and marginally objectionable Ian Furness, this is
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Speaker 3: Paddle Day saying so long, everyone.