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The Late Debate | 4 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome the Late to Pay.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us for a brand new week on
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  Speaker 2: the Late Debate. I'm James MacPerson with the Nika to
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  Speaker 2: Georgio and filling in for Caleb Bond who's away this week.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand. How a, my friends, I am really well,
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  Speaker 2: had a great weekend. My football team lost but still
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  Speaker 2: played well and that's an improvement for them.
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  Speaker 3: So my kids football team won, and so that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Anything can happen, Like someone could seriously walk in the
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  Speaker 3: studio and chop my right arm off, the week will
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  Speaker 3: still be a win.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: The thing I miss most is my kids playing sport
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  Speaker 2: now that they're older.
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  Speaker 3: It's the most important thing in the world. Absolutely, I
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  Speaker 3: just watch it from the How did I ever get
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  Speaker 3: excited about any other sporting match. I've got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of money riding on him as well.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, that was your weekend, Anika.
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  Speaker 5: Very good, thank you, very social, very social weekend. I
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  Speaker 5: was out all weekend, to be honest, So you never
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  Speaker 5: feel like you have those big.
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  Speaker 4: Weekends, and I have had no time to myself and
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  Speaker 4: now I'm tired.
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  Speaker 2: That's about to start late, Ready, come on, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 3: To go social.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: A designated Islamist hate group argues that Pauline Hanson, rather
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  Speaker 2: than It, should be blacklisted by the Australian government. School
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  Speaker 2: teachers are helping students navigate phone plans, understand pay slips
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  Speaker 2: and analyze the small print in gym membership contracts? Is
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  Speaker 2: that really a good use of class time? And Rolling
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  Speaker 2: Stone magazine has come up with a new way to
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  Speaker 2: rate the greatest guitar players of all time, critiquing not
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  Speaker 2: only their a musical ability but their political opinions.
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  Speaker 1: All of that coming.
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  Speaker 2: Up, but first, when does a protective parent cross the
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  Speaker 2: line into over protective? That's the question being debated after
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  Speaker 2: a Victorian mum film the moment she confronted a man
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  Speaker 2: who made a comment about her daughter at a bakery.
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  Speaker 2: The woman's teenage girl was buying lunch in Torqui when
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  Speaker 2: a passing genius decided to offer his unsolicited nutritional analysis,
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  Speaker 2: suggesting her order would and I quote go straight to
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  Speaker 2: her hips and to mum, you're not.
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  Speaker 6: Going to make any more comments about young girl's bodies
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  Speaker 6: while they're in a shop buying food.
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 4: What did you say?
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  Speaker 1: What did you say?
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  Speaker 7: I said, did you not talking about her body?
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  Speaker 6: That's exactly talking about her body? When you're out in
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  Speaker 6: public and someone's buying food, Do you need not make
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  Speaker 6: comment about young people's bodies? Has that been made clear?
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  Speaker 6: I'm overprotective you are, No, no, no, I just think that
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  Speaker 6: you're a bit of a pink of a man who
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  Speaker 6: saw a young girl wearing workout here and decided to
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  Speaker 6: make a comment about food that she would buy.
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  Speaker 2: So the mum naturally posted that video online and it
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  Speaker 2: went viral, sparking a massive debate. Was mum defending her
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  Speaker 2: daughter's dignity or auditioning for overreaction of the year?
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  Speaker 1: Denika? What did you make of it?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think she was auditioning for overreaction of the aar.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't, I don't. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: why would he say something like that? Why not just
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  Speaker 5: shut up? Mind your own business? I mean, how how
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  Speaker 5: embarrassing are people?
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  Speaker 4: Seriously?
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  Speaker 5: And what's the old saying? If you've got nothing nice
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  Speaker 5: to say, then don't say it at all. I just think,
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  Speaker 5: why bother? That's just I don't understand why he did that. Now,
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  Speaker 5: what I would say is though I think that the
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  Speaker 5: mum filming him was stupid. If I was the mother,
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have even have gone up to him. I
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  Speaker 5: just would have pulled my child aside and said, love,
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  Speaker 5: don't worry about it, you're beautiful as you are. Move on,
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  Speaker 5: because that, to me, teaches a child resilience, because you're
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  Speaker 5: going to cop Knox, You're going to cop criticism over
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  Speaker 5: your life. I personally wouldn't have gone and filmed him
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  Speaker 5: and carried on like a who ha. But no, I
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  Speaker 5: think he was wrong. Well you don't think he was wrong?
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  Speaker 5: And what he said.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a long standing throwaway line. It's awkward
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  Speaker 2: to say it, but I reckon the guy intended no harm.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those things you say, oh to.
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  Speaker 2: Go straight to your hipsopp to say, And it wasn't appreciated,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't an insult. He's just trying to make conversations.
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  Speaker 2: James waiting for his donut.
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  Speaker 5: James, how would you feel if somebody said that to
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  Speaker 5: your wife.
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  Speaker 6: Or your.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly as I said, it's one of those common expressions.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to think that's a bit odd to
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  Speaker 4: say to somebody?
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything it's one of those things.
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  Speaker 4: It does have It does have meaning.
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  Speaker 5: Basically, that's saying that if you have this donut, whatever
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  Speaker 5: the bakery, you're going to get fat.
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  Speaker 4: It does have meanings. So I'll ask you.
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  Speaker 5: If someone said that to your wife or your sisters,
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  Speaker 5: what you would just think? Oh, that's normal that somebody
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  Speaker 5: goes around saying commenting on women.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a bit socially, but I wouldn't think
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  Speaker 2: it was offensive people say about themselves and say I
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  Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have this donuts going to go straight?
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  Speaker 4: Well would you say it?
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  Speaker 1: Who's?
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  Speaker 4: But what business is it? What business is it?
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  Speaker 3: Isn't the whole point that a lot of people aren't
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  Speaker 3: very funny and aren't very bright, and they think they're
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  Speaker 3: making a joke. It's an old dog and it's a
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  Speaker 3: stupid old Hackney cliche and in it on the lips,
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  Speaker 3: lifetime on the hoops, and they say it because they
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  Speaker 3: can't think of anything else to say, and they think
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  Speaker 3: that they're just making conversation. Maybe it is a bit
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  Speaker 3: sort of pervy if she's a teenage girl, but maybe
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  Speaker 3: if you know, if she's old, older looking, and he
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  Speaker 3: just thinks he's making conversation, you know, I mean, firstly,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to know what the food item is. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what is Was it a I AM donut? You know?
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  Speaker 3: Was it a Danish? Was it a God Forbid? A
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  Speaker 3: sausage role? I think the Telly had a whole week's
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  Speaker 3: worth of debate over how fat sausage rolls would make
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  Speaker 3: it in an electric campaign. But I kind of so,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of thought my initial thing saying this was
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  Speaker 3: this is clearly just performative and the fact again, even
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to challenge the bloke onn it, why
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  Speaker 3: do you have to get a camera in his good
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  Speaker 3: point online? Like that's just a dick move. Anyone that
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  Speaker 3: does that is just an unpleasant person. But I did think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is just a massive overreaction, And then
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  Speaker 3: I did what Danikas said, and I thought, what if
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  Speaker 3: someone did it to my one of my daughters? And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like that man would no longer be alive, Like
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  Speaker 3: I would just go absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, So why would having said anything you've just said?
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  Speaker 1: So if he says it to a.
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  Speaker 2: Stranger, you totally understand it's just one of those stupid things.
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  Speaker 2: But if he says it to your daughter, something why
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  Speaker 2: is that offensive?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think you just get massively and often irrationally overprotect, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you just want I mean, I think
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  Speaker 3: my daughter don't worry about them, sorry much all my kids.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just you know, and you try not to be
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  Speaker 3: like I don't sugar I don't sort of sugarcoat them
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  Speaker 3: or cotton bull them or bubble wrap them or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that. But the idea that any other adult would
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  Speaker 3: intervene my kid's sense of self worth or upbringing or
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  Speaker 3: how they think about themselves. I mean, if anyone's going
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  Speaker 3: to make my kids feel bad, it's going to be me.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be a couple of things here, right With
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  Speaker 2: the way the video is portrayed, in the guy's covering
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  Speaker 2: his face, it's a bit difficult to tell how old
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  Speaker 2: the guys he looked. But there may be a generational
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  Speaker 2: thing here where these days you don't talk to teenage
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  Speaker 2: girls and you don't say anything about fat or overweight.
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  Speaker 1: Or I mean, it's just off limits.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But go back twenty years ago, those social etiquette
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  Speaker 2: principles didn't apply, so there is.
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  Speaker 1: A possibility that this was slightly generational.
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  Speaker 4: But even when he was being confronted by the mother.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't apologize, and he didn't go sorry, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: mean any offense.
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  Speaker 4: So in that sense, I disagree.
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  Speaker 5: Because you know when you you know, when a boomer
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  Speaker 5: says something and you're like, oh, like't don't say that. Like,
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  Speaker 5: I get your point, because you know, older people tend
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  Speaker 5: to say things that just wouldn't fly these days, but
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  Speaker 5: when they're called up on it, they're generally I'm so
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  Speaker 5: so sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean.
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  Speaker 3: Anything that he doesn't. He doesn't even know he's done
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  Speaker 3: anything wrong. He thinks he's had it just a friendly
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  Speaker 3: chat with a young lady down at the shops. He
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  Speaker 3: walks out, and suddenly this crazy woman is in his
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  Speaker 3: face with a mobile phone screaming at him about something.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't you apologize that? I don't hang on a why sorry?
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  Speaker 2: I think he's stunned because this woman's like in his
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  Speaker 2: face with what.
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  Speaker 5: I actually thought he was being quite arrogant about it
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  Speaker 5: in his response. I thought that was there was like
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  Speaker 5: an air of arrogance, like hell, like, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't mean any harm by it?
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  Speaker 4: What what really?
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  Speaker 5: If he really cared, he would have said, I'm so sorry,
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  Speaker 5: that was a I didn't mean any offense by it.
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  Speaker 4: I do apologize.
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  Speaker 2: She said you shouldn't, you know, coin on girls by
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  Speaker 2: and he said I wasn't because in his mind, as
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  Speaker 2: I it.
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  Speaker 3: Was, commenting on the pace can.
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  Speaker 1: End up on you exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the pastry deserves in a policy.
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  Speaker 4: End up the pastry, the donut, whatever it was. I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson learned is, wherever you go less you know
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  Speaker 2: the person, do not say a word because if you do,
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  Speaker 2: someone will get horribly offended.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's true.
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  Speaker 5: Now, look, speaking of obesity, speaking of enjoying yourself one
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  Speaker 5: too many times.
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  Speaker 1: Did you just body shame that girl?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about that girl, I'm talking about food
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  Speaker 5: in general. Obese parents could actually be offered modern weight
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  Speaker 5: loss drugs to not only improve their health, but test
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  Speaker 5: whether it could help prevent childhood obesity. This is a
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  Speaker 5: world first research that's happening at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute.
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  Speaker 5: They want to see if making what's called g LP one,
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  Speaker 5: which are weight loss drugs, more freely available to parents,
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  Speaker 5: can reshape a households food habits and curb the growing
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  Speaker 5: children's weight crisis in Australia. Now, it has been revealed
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  Speaker 5: that eight billion dollars has been spent on obesity health
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  Speaker 5: care costs in Australia, and one in four Australian children
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  Speaker 5: are obese or over weight, a rate that hasn't changed
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  Speaker 5: in a decade now. The Murdoch Research Institute's professor Melissa Wake,
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  Speaker 5: she is the scientific director all of this, She said
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  Speaker 5: it may also help shift child obesity trajectories for life.
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  Speaker 4: While these drugs aren't for everyone and.
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  Speaker 5: Won't solve the problem on their own, it may give
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  Speaker 5: parents a chance to lessen unhealthy weight gain and health
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  Speaker 5: loss for children. What happened to basic nutrition? Whatever happened
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  Speaker 5: to basic exercise? That the guiding principles. Now here's my
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  Speaker 5: issue with weight loss Druggs.
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  Speaker 3: I say, one bloke tried to do something about that
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  Speaker 3: in a bakery.
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  Speaker 4: And failed at it.
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  Speaker 5: Any fact, No, no, But that was a different story.
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  Speaker 3: Jo was telling her to take personal responsibil coming out
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  Speaker 3: was going to go anyway, we've been there.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look we've been there, We've done that one.
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  Speaker 1: OK.
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  Speaker 5: But look the problem that I have with these weight
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  Speaker 5: loss drugs is they haven't been that. I'm all for research,
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  Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, but they haven't been proven. And
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  Speaker 5: if you look at what we've got on the market now,
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  Speaker 5: like ozen Pick and Munjaro.
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  Speaker 4: You've got every man on the and their dog.
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  Speaker 5: Taking ozen Pick when they simply don't need to be
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  Speaker 5: on it. And I wondered there was once a chronic
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  Speaker 5: shortage for people who are type two diabetic because it's
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  Speaker 5: just the easy way and quick way to lose weight,
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  Speaker 5: when realistically a person can go and exercise and go
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  Speaker 5: and eat and go and eat healthy. My other concern
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  Speaker 5: is what does this teach children? What does this teach
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  Speaker 5: the next generation? Just look, don't worry you can gain weight,
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  Speaker 5: because if you do gain weight, just go down to
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  Speaker 5: your local pharmacy and jab yourself again. I'm all for research,
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  Speaker 5: I don't I don't have a problem with research, but
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  Speaker 5: we don't know the consequences of these drugs, and I
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  Speaker 5: worry about what it's teaching.
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  Speaker 2: You've just pointed out the great irony of this experiment, right,
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  Speaker 2: So they're going to give mum and dad a weight
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  Speaker 2: loss drug to try to change the behavior of the kids. Well,
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  Speaker 2: why are you trying to change the behavior of the kids.
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  Speaker 2: You can give the kids the weight loss drug. Everybody wins.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know why they're having the experiment.
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  Speaker 2: I think the winners here, I'm being slightly facetious. The
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  Speaker 2: winners here are the manufacturers of the weight loss thing,
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  Speaker 2: which last financial year was worth about six hundred to
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred million dollars in this country. They reckon within
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  Speaker 2: the next ten years it'll be worth up to three
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars a year and increasing at a rate of knots.
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  Speaker 2: So I think these weight loss drugs are here with
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  Speaker 2: us to stay now. Because let's be honest, I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: your argument. People should get down to the gym, they
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  Speaker 2: should walk, they should change their diet, they shouldn't go
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  Speaker 2: to bakeries in Torquay. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: that sounds like a lot of hard work compared to
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  Speaker 2: you know, jab myself once a week or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 2: and instantly I start losing weight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And also, to be honest, if you put it
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  Speaker 3: in a grand scheme of things, I mean the number
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  Speaker 3: of things that we rely on medicine to do for
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  Speaker 3: us now, where beforehand we'd either have to do, you know,
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  Speaker 3: completely change our lifestyles or alternatively just die. I think,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if the you know, I'm sure we're there
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  Speaker 3: people saying this about penicillin. You know a century agoes, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: why are we taking this penacillin to stop all our
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  Speaker 3: infections when we should be, you know, out there just
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  Speaker 3: getting some fresh air and eating better. So I've got
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  Speaker 3: a feeling that this is here to stay. As you said,
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  Speaker 3: I think, even if the drugs companies get rich off it,
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  Speaker 3: if it's saving this show and healthcare system in the
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  Speaker 3: long run. I mean, you mentioned the figure of three billion, max. Maybe,
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  Speaker 3: but also eight billion in treating obesity, and we know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean quite frankly, we know during the COVID epidemic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the two biggest risk factors were being incredibly
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  Speaker 3: old or incredibly overweight, or.
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  Speaker 2: Driving in your car on your own without a mask
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  Speaker 2: driving your car. Oh God, for me, here's the interesting
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  Speaker 2: thing about this story, right.
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  Speaker 3: So why not just fix it? It's better for society.
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  Speaker 2: But they are using a drug in this instance, not
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  Speaker 2: for health reasons, but for behavioral change.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're giving one thing.
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  Speaker 2: There had a drug to try to change the behavior
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  Speaker 2: of little Johnny.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: That's an interesting development in the use of medicine.
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  Speaker 5: But that's a worry to me because when I remember
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  Speaker 5: being at school and learning the basics about health and nutrition.
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  Speaker 5: And when we used to play sport, and that's how
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  Speaker 5: we kept active. And we would do classes and we
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  Speaker 5: would sing songs about good food.
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  Speaker 4: And that's how you. That is how you that's actually
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  Speaker 4: how you learn.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember the songs?
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't remember those songs now, I don't remember
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  Speaker 5: the songs, but we did. And look, I'm not against
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  Speaker 5: weight loss drugs, but only for certain circumstances. For example,
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  Speaker 5: I have seen what the benefits of say oz and
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  Speaker 5: pick can do for a type two diabetic. I've seen it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in my own family, so that I can
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  Speaker 5: absolutely understand. But to use it as a behavioral tool
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  Speaker 5: for a child, I do not agree with that. And
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  Speaker 5: have you seen what happens to people's faces when they
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  Speaker 5: go on oz and pick? They get the gozen pick face.
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  Speaker 5: Have you seen the celebrities that gaunt? Suddenly you don't
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  Speaker 5: want that, you don't want that?
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  Speaker 2: They start telling me off, that's sorry too, all right
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  Speaker 2: to prescribed Australian Islamist hate group, his Butteria has finally
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  Speaker 2: spoken out about the government's move to blacklist them, saying
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  Speaker 2: that they are considering taking the matter to court and
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  Speaker 2: challenging the constitutional legality of being named a hate group.
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  Speaker 2: What I found interesting about this story is the statement
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  Speaker 2: from some of the group members who said, we do
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  Speaker 2: carry Islam intellectually as the only way of life, as
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  Speaker 2: the solution to the malaise of secular liberalism, which has
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  Speaker 2: led humanity for three centuries now and failed her miserably.
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  Speaker 1: Now. They said that, I'll read the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Of the quote in a moment about Pauline Hansen, but
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  Speaker 2: having said that, they then also reassured everybody we don't
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  Speaker 2: seek to change the system of government, but we do
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  Speaker 2: advocate for a caliphate and Sharia law in exclusive Muslim countries.
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  Speaker 2: I'll come back to the Pauline Hanson point in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: but I wanted to just raise the the matter here
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  Speaker 2: at Danika. I find it hard to understand how they say,
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  Speaker 2: we've got no interest in changing the Australian system of government,
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  Speaker 2: but we absolutely advocate for sharia law in exclusively Muslim countries.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: But you live in Australia, So why you're advocating for
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: laws in countries far far away by protesting and agitating here?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Of what point is that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Of what benefit or interest is that to any of
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: us other than creating disharmony in this country. And then
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: how can you say, we've got no interest in changing
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the government, but we believe Islam is the only way
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: of life and it's the answer to the malays of
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: secular liberalism, which is the culture we have here in Australia.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Do those two things not seem completely contradictory.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: The irony of it.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: But you also forgot to mention not only do they
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: advocate for sharia law, James, they also advocate for the
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: establishment of a caliphate. So that's absolutely terrific in a
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: Western liberal democracy, really really wonderful. So they are listed
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: as a hate group in Australia right now. The UK
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: have them listed as a designated terror group. The Coalition
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: has been pushing for them to be listed here as
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: as a terror group. And I mean there's certainly several
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: examples that the his Butteria group were responsible for organizing
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: the protest after the October seven massacre, the one where
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: there was a preacher who said I'm smiling, I'm elater,
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: this is a day of courage. They were responsible for
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: that protest as well.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Look, so so just on that, Mike Burgess from ASIO
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: has said that they've been very clever in that they
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: seem to go right up to the line of what
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: is acceptable and then they stop. They've never actually crossed
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: into that realm of potentially being a terror group.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, they're clever, they know exactly what they do. They're
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: not silly. One of the quotes so from this it
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: claimed that the group claimed hate has been disproportionately applied
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: to pro Palestinian and Muslim activists, and they said in comparison,
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: they said, compare that to, for example, the March for
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Australia protests that took place last year.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: About that, because that March for Australia protest, the majority
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: of people that were there, yes, some neo Nazis rocked up,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: and the majority of people were there to say, we
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: need to reclaim Australian values, we need to take back Australia,
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: we need to lower migration where anti mass migration values
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: in a western liberal democracy, and we want people to
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: come into this country and assimilate. So no, wonder this
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: his Butteria is going, No, we don't want the March
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: for Australia because it goes absolutely against everything that that
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: group stands for so, you know what, it just shows
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: to me a level of delusion. And it's also a
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: victimhood narrative. They're always the victims, aren't they when it
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: comes to these groups, and never saying, okay, you know what,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: we're in Australia. Clearly their values are disproportionate to ours
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: and instead of saying we're going to adapt to your
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: way of life, know where the victims are in your
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: own country.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: But there's an even nicer little sting in the tail
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: for you, lady and gentlemen, which is that His Victoria
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: was only the second group to be banned under these
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: new hate speech laws, first of their kind in Australia.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: The first group to be banned was exactly that group
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of neo Nazis that His but Teria is complaining, is
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: it getting the same treatment as they are? They were
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: actually banned first before His Butteriron. So the actual National
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Socialist Network or whatever they called, they come up. They've
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: got all different names, the same old faces. Strangely, also
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the same old haircuts, which is very very short on
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: not just the back and sides, but all over. There's
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: a word that rhymes with pin heads. I think that
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: describes and I can't quite put my finger right anyway.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: But so in fact, not only is his but Teria,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: which you know is all about being strong and you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and invincible and committed to the cause and you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: threatening all sorts of things against Jews or anyone who
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: stands in the way of the Calfe, not only are
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: they just the most incredibly sooky little butt hurt snowflakes
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: when anyone applies any amount of press on them, you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: a modicum of the sort of stuff that they're calling
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: for for other groups. Not only does it just show
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: how pissweek they are, but it also shows they've just
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: got no idea whatsoever. They have not got two brain
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: cells in their heads to rub together. Because what they're
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: complaining about is in fact, the very first thing that
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the government did with the same laws that they're bitching
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and moaning about. The other interesting thing is that when
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: there was when you know, they put out this thing,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: it was the most impacting at the end of all.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: But they put out this thing, of all the Muslim
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: groups who were calling for his Bertteria to be left alone,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: and don't banned them, blah blah blah. None of the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: major mainstream Muslim groups touched them with a barge pop
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: groups like the Lebanese Muslim Association. There are other groups
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: where they listed every single branch of the organization separately
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: to make it look like it had more names. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the point is, I suppose that these guys are not
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: only idiots, it's because they don't even know who else
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: has been banned and what they're complaining about has in
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: fact already happened. They're not only massive like little snowflake
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: try hard sooks, but they also have no support in
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the mainstream Muslim community. These are the saddest little bunch
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: of losers you have ever seen in your life, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: now they are also illegal losers.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: The other funny some I could just check my car
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: before I drive, good idea. Just the other funny thing
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: about this sneak is when they say, you know, why
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: isn't Pulling Hanson banned? I reckon Pulling Hanson's ratings just
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: went up a little higher his career and not the
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: greatest weapon.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: That's the time they open their mouth. We speak for Muslims,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: one nation goes through the Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Basically, everything Pauline Hanson has said is exactly what's been
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: put into this article. This is this is the exact
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: worry now, the anti Semitism crisis. Of course, we've got
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: a problem here in Australia, but over in the UK
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: under Kyostama, it is an absolute abomination. Last week, of course,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: two Jews were allegedly stabbed by a British national Somalian
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: born man. He has since been charged, and in response
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: to that attack, former Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment veterans
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: have been deployed to safeguards synagogue, schools and other Jewish
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: community sites throughout Britain, Following well a surge in anti semitism.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Hello against seriously, as if they didn't realize that there
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: was an anti Semitism crisis already.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Over in the UK.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: The government has already elevated the national terrorism threat level
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: to severe, indicating that another attack is considered likely.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: But here listen to this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: The Chief Police Commissioner over there, Sir Mark Rowley, has
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: requested urgent funding to recruit three hundred additional officers dedicated
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: to protect Jewish communities, and the Community Security Trust, which
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: advises Britain's two hundred and eighty thousand Jews on security matters,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: has engaged a private contractor, as I said, to recruit
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: personnel from elite fighting units within the Royal Navy and Army. G.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that we've actually reached this point,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: isn't it absolutely incredible? Multiculturalism is our strength though apparently
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: that's what we keep getting told time and time again,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: and you know, and it's happened here in Australia too.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: It takes an attack.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: On Jews for you know, authorities to go, oh, maybe
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: we should probably do something, maybe we should stand up
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: and actually try and help Jews, And they never actually
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: do solve any of the problems. And it just reminded
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: me that Keir Starmer and Anthony Abernezi they're like two
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: peas in a pod when it comes to their response
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: to anti Semitism. They've sort of followed the same trajectory
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: over and over again. The other point that I would
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: make is we throw a lot of money into resourcing,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: but we're always.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Dancing around the common denominator.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: What's behind a lot of this anti semitism, Radical Islam
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: and degrees as well arts degrees at the rate that
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: we're going. But it's true, though we dance around it.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: So we talk about funding resources. Let's make it more
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: safe for Jews, but we'll never actually talk about the
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: common denominator in radical Islam. And that is the biggest
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: threat to the West. It is the biggest threat to
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a Western liberal democracy. It has torn our social fibers apart,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: particularly since October seven, twenty twenty three. And if you
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: look over in the UK, it's the exact same issue there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: In fact, Britain doesn't even recognize itself any It's.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: To the great shame of the UK and to Australia
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and nations right across the West that Jewish schools, synagogues,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: other Jewish events require security personnel, in many cases armed
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to protect Jewish citizens just going Jewish people rather just
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: going about their business. Anti Semitism will not be dealt
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: within this country to the point where we can say, yes,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it's not really a big issue anymore until synagogues require
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the same security that Catholic churches, Anglican churches, Salvation Army churches,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Mormon tabernacles, whatever require, which is none. Catholic churches don't
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: require armed guards at the front.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But synagogues do.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And whilever you've got that difference, then we've got a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: major problem in this country. And I've had people say, oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the whole anti Semitism thing, it's overblown, It's not that bad.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: If there was nothing else happening apart from the fact
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that they had to have armed guards outside synagogues, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: would argue, we've still got a major problem. If that
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: is required, until that's no longer necessary, then there is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: an issue and we need to continue to deal with it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm pretty sure there's fifteen dead people in Bondai
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and their families who would suggest otherwise. Yeah, maybe I'm
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: quite serious. And again this underscores just how I mean,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: people who are inspired or radicalized by groups like his
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: butter Rear, by the hate preachers who are adjacent to them,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: by you know, dickheads like Bobby Villain at Glassy Glastonbury
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: who says death death the IVF. Have you heard this
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: cool new chant? And of course doesn't take a rocket
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: science to figure out scientists to figure out that someone
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: can hear that and say we've got to I've got
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: to kill Israelis. I've got to kill Israelis. You know
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: where are you know? And we'll be talking about it
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: during the papers. I think they will literally say like
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: they did on the steps of the Sydney Opera House
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: on October eight, just after the Hamas terror attack, worst
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: attack on Jews since the Holocaust. You know, people actually
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: going where are the Jews and looking for them and
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: trying to hurt them. And it's and it's idiots like
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: his but Toer and and all these activists who chant
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: globalize the interfata. Oh, okay, where do I Where will
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I go to globalize it? Where do you think you're
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: going to go? You're going to go to Jewish communities
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: and you're going to try to attack them, because that's
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: as close as your pathetic little soul can get to
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the actual conflict in Gaza, which you're obsessed by, even
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: though it's on the other side of the world and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: possibly or even probably doesn't even involve anyone you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and you clearly don't know anything about it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: There was a pro Palestinian protest on Kulji Beach yesterday.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I looked at and thought that ven diagram is just
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: a natural waya Why would you do?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Why is it necessary for you to go to the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: beach on a Sunday and protest against Israel?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it's beach yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: And your bikini if that want to go over there
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: with your skippy bikini on, give that a crack.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: There's a constant debate over the curriculum in schools and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: what's important what's not important. And I've got a real
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: problem with this one because increasingly teachers are taking class
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: time to instruct pupils in things like understanding their phone
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: plan or reading the fine print in their gym membership,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: taking time away from what they're supposed to be learning, maths, geography, English.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Charlie Jong from Newstead College. He's a teacher who's received
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: a commendation for teaching kids all of these life skills
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: that I think parents should probably be teaching. Obviously they're not,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: he says, Well, the curriculum provides a foundation, doesn't always
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: cover the full range of real world skills. Students need.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: To bridge this gap. We're running a series of practical
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: financial workshops that give students confidence and capability. These sessions
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: cover understanding tax building, superannuation, managing a bank account, avoiding
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: credit card risks, buying products wisely, and learning about gambling harm. Now,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: obviously he's a very good teacher who really cares about
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: students so I would commend him. But my concern is
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is this going to be an increasing thing where instead of,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: as I said, learning geography or history, kids are sitting
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: in class learning how to distinguish between this phone plan
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and that phone plan, what's the fine print in your
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: gym membership.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: What are you got to be wary of, et cetera,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: et cetera.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's actually a fantastic plan, to be honest,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: because I mean, and I only know from my personal experience,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: you sit there in these ridiculous geography classes. Well, where
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: the heck is that going to get you in your life?
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Don't I could not remember.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Lessons new where Gaza was.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Where was from geography classes.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I would have loved to have sat there and learnt
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: about finances to help me prepare for the real world.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: I would have loved to have known how to put
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: a budget together, to read the fine print of a contract,
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: little things like that that would equip you with the
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: life skills that when you leave school you are prepared
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: for the real world. And I think, honestly, in my experience,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I felt like school was a waste of time.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: What happens if someone I really did Deneka I want
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: you to tell me the base unit of barometric pressure
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: or you'll never see your cat again.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: But seriously, when would I ever use that barometric pressure?
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: The thing, this is the thing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: We brought home some geography stuff and I love him,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: great school and everything, blah blah blah, And I just thought, well,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even this is I think this is just
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: a worm. I don't get anywhere, and this is not
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand the relevance, didn't.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kind of And I also thought back
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to when I was doing geography, I don't want to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: get you know, and I'm sure it is very important
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: you should do it, and blah blah blah. And I'm
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you know, things like obviously, and maybe it's just my
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: natural kind of interest and apt to like say, things
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: like English and history and those sorts of things I
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: think are the most vital things abu the world and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: everyone should be forced to learn them at gunpoint until
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: everyone knows everything about it. But with the geography, sal
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I thought, and unless you're actually maybe it is like
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: maybe people will be choosing a career in design or
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: you know, being a weatherman or I don't know whatever,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe that is useful. But I just
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: kind of thought to myself, like Danika, So when have
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I ever used my knowledge of chair?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I could not remember.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: Look, And I'm not taking that away from basics of
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: learning English and literary I think that is very, very vital. Absolutely,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: do I think maths is important? No, ask me when
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I use maths in my day in my day job.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: This job does not require me to use maths.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: If ever you want to change like one hundred or
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: let me change it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: But it's not, it's not And I'm not discredited. This
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: is not me just crediting the basics, because children have
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: to learn the basics, right, But I also think there
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: is such a need like even I would have loved
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: to have learned how to say, use an Excel document
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: like things like that, but things like that to learn
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: how to use it properly where you can put a
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: functional budget together, you know, with the little denominations and
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: the little keys he put in. Again, I just think
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: that that would have just equipped you with so many
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: more life skills and having to sit there ridiculous classes
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: that are going to take you nowhere. Now, obviously, not
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: every child knows what they want to do when they
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: leave high school, so they do have to take all
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: these activities and these subjects. That is fine, but as
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I said, in my personal experience, I honestly felt school
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: was a waste of my time.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Think of these things interesting to kids though, as we
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: us well that you want your mobile phone.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I had an economics teacher at Runcorn State High School
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: in Brisbane and he was my favorite teacher because he
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: would sit on the desk and just discuss the news
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of the day and unwittingly to well and we didn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: realize he was weaving the economics class into as we
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: discussed the issues of the day and the news, and it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Was our favorite class by a mild great teacher.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: So you can do those things, but I mean, what
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: about parents teaching you. Your parents are lovely, so not
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: talking about your parents specifically, but isn't that the role
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: of parents to help raise their kids to be able
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to deal with all of these things that they're.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Going to encounter in them.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: And there is a real space for it in schools
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: to be taught these basic life skills. I really really do,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and not every mum and dad are proficient in budgets
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: or finance themselves. So if you've got a teacher that
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: has that knowledge, why wouldn't you be a sponge and
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: learn off them and set yourself up.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I would have really have benefited, I feel like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: from knowing how to do all these basic things instead
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: sat there in these ridiculous classes because well something you
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: had to.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Go to university.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So it turned out all right, though it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Turned out, I hope. So I don't know as many.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: That would beg to be fus I think for and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: also for a lot of disadvantage kids where the parents
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: just simply aren't able to teach this basic stuff if
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: the school and I know schools that do step in
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and provide basic kind of things like that precisely because
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of that. Right, Well, there's no point teaching algebra if
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: this kid, you know, isn't going to know how to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: go about you know, you know, doing his taxes, getting
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: a job, filling out forms correctly, you know, knowing how
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: to find.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they're teaching kids about the finer
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: points of gym membership forms because they're all going to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: be on ozembic.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Oh jeez, James, All right, well let's move on. Remember
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: that old song Layla You've got Me on my knees
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Layla one of the old time classics by Eric Clapton.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: But wow, one of the greatest guitarists of all time,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: he's in a bit of hot water. He has now
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: fallen foul of Rolling Stones greatest guitars of all time,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: guitarists of all time. Why because he wrote a song
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: about all he's spoken, rather about COVID and the vaccine
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: injury that he suffered. Eric Clapton is down from the
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: top ten of the greatest guitar players of all time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: He's dropped down to thirty five, which you believe. That's
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: quite a t that's what.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: That's a fair demotion, isn't it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Because he's admitted that he was injured from this COVID
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: vaccine and refused to scriminate on entry to his concerts
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: based on vaccine status.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Well ja good on him. They even admit the reasoning
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: in the explanation.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: From the Rolling Stone. And here is Eric Clapton's COVID song.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: This has got to stop.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Do you want to play my soul? You'll have to
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: come and break down this store.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is ridiculous, isn't it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Isn't it just a rolling Stone magazine has been going
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: woke for years.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: It's it's long gone.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Are the really good days when they had their their editor.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: It's his name, it's a yarn winner, Yeah, yan y Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: He was ready views with Bob Dylan of all time.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: But this is what I mean, Joe long gone on
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: those days where you had an editor who actually loved
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: the music so much and everything was about the musician
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: and the music.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: It's a classic. It was about crashing assumptions, questioning authority, correct.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: And now and now, just because you question the world,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: suddenly you've piped down from ten.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: To thirty five and the greatest guitar.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: So with that in mind, it makes you realize how
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: brave boy George is. He was interviewed on television at
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the weekend about violence against Jews in the UK and
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: he stood there and defended Jewish people to absolute silence
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in the audience.
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: And I know lots of amazing Jewish people. If you
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: don't know any Jewish people, maybe that's the problem. Do
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: you know any Jewish people? Look at the choir. It's
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: so weird. You know, as a country that's had a
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: lot of pain, we should know what.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: It feels like.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: He went on when the interviewer said, well, you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the stabbing of a couple of Jews in North London
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: at the week last week was sort of in the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: context of the horrors of Gaza. It's a very complex situation.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And boy George pushed back a little bit and then said,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: you know what, I've always chosen my friends based on
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the fact that I like them, rather than their race
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: or their religion, all their sexuality. And there was absolute
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: silence in the audience, and you heard boy George say,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: they're about the silence, but he remarked on a second
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: time that he was getting zero love from the audience.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: And so credit to boy George, because when you're in
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, your career can be ruined by taking
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the wrong political position. As you said, Eric Clapton dropped
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: thirty three spaces in Greatest Guitar Player of All Time
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: in just twelve years.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Things about COVID.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, I don't agree with boy
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: George on a lot. I think his commentary on women
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: in agree men and women's sports has been absolutely ridiculous.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: But I take my hat off to him for being
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: brave enough to speak out like this, because yeah, we
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: live in the world of cancel culture.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: So good on him.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird to even say utter the words,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Oh but this is against the back, Like I was
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: just I was actually thinking about this for the show.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Imagine if two Ugandans got killed in the street or
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: stabbed in the street, and people said, oh, yeah, but
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: you've got to understand what's happening in Uganda. Yeah, imagine
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: that just any other country, like the closest you would
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: get as well, terrorist apologists who would say, oh, yes,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: we're killing and this is you know, literally al Qaeda
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: or isis saying we're killing these innocent Americans because of
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: what they're doing in Iraq. That is the same logic
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: as what a TV host is employing when he says, oh, yes,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: but the killing or the stabbing of those Jews is
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: because of what's happening in Gaza.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: So you're basically using isis logic that it's okay, or
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: that it's understandable, or that we need to kind of
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: contextualize the cold blooded murder or attempted murder of innocent
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: people based on something that's happening in a different country
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: on the other side of it.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: We got to go to a break.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: including a fourteen year old girl facing one hundred and
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: nine charges in a hate crime.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Case that's coming out next. Welcome back to the program.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow so
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you get them here first. We'll start with the Adelaide
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Advertiser and I'll tell you what. Jim Charmers is not
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: going to enjoy his coffee and toast in the morning
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: when he reads the headlines. This one is typical of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's papers. Lord of the Lies is the headline. Charmers
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: happy to break Labour's election promise. Rates set to rise,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: rents to soar. The article says Jim Chalmers has proudly
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: boasted he could backflip on a pledge not to raise
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: property taxes because his government had already broken another election promise.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: The Treasurer's confession came as real estate experts warned winding
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: back capital gains tax discounts and abolishing negative gearing could
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: force city rents up by twenty percent, with homeowners bracing
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: for yet another interest rate rise. Today, It was interesting
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Jim Charmers comments today when he was talking about breaking
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: some of the pre election promises, particularly the one about
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: negative gearing, and he actually said that by breaking the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: promise not to change negative gearing, he would build trust
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: with the electorate because he would be able to explain
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: that we are committed to doing the right thing, even
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: if it means breaking our promises, and so that would
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: build trust.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That's a leaked spinning. I would suggest, Yeah, it's.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm sure we can expect tomorrow if interest
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: rates do rise, we'll have Jim Chalmers saying, oh, well, Iran,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: that's it, Iran, not me.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Even just the sort of logistical, logical gymnastics, like people
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: can trust us because we are explaining to them why
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: they cannot be trusted. Yes, you can believe our promises
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: because we will always explain to you why we break
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: them in great detail. I saw this. This came out
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: earlier today and I saw this and saw the reports
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: about it, and I just thought, well, and of course
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: he's talking about the Stage three tax carts, which a
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: lot of people, including myself, I was very thought it's
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: going to hurt. But basically because they were just taking
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: away money from a few people and giving it to
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: basically ten times more people. That actually worked out totally fine.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: And the government, you know, I wouldn't say got away
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: with it, but totally like the Sheer rule didn't hurt them.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Mathematics meant that people were getting more money. It's like,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I don't care if you're lied or not. If I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: getting you know, I'm telling it, Yeah, I'm getting more money.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Nine percent of people got more money. Great, and but
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know that's a lot to bet on this
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: time around, Like it's going to take a long time
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: for any of these reforms to come through. I think
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: we'll see later in the papers they'll be handing out
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: a bit of cash in the budget as well, so
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: people say, oh, I'm getting some money.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: The other funny thing is he keeps saying when talking
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: about this budget, he says this is a very responsible budget.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Reminds me of Margaret Thatcher, who used to say, if
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: you have to tell people you're a lady, you're probably not.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And if the Treasure is continually saying this is a
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: very responsible budget every time he says it, I think, right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Well, he'll be spinning his breakfast out if he has
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: a look at the Australian tomorrow. The head I'm there
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: sprung when Jim's tax still handouts. The abad eazy government
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: is set to announce a major multi billion dollar cash
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: splash for all working Aussies as its centerpiece cost of
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: living support in the May budget, adding pressure to the
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: reserve banks fight against inflation and interest rate decisions. Jim
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Chalmers is poised to announce an earned income offset of
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: between two hundred to three hundred dollars for every person
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: in Australia who gets a wage or salary and pays tax,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: as part of the Treasurer's framing of next week's budget
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: as one that favors increasing taxes on assets versus wages
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: and salaries.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: You know, this, to me is absolutely extraordinary.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: When Jim Charmers has already spent us into oblivion. We've
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: got debt which is about to reach one trillion dollars
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: and now there's more handouts. Now we have seen what
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: has happened in the past with the handouts. We saw
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: the energy subsidies for example, another band aid solution, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: what happened when those peded out? Of course, inflation went up,
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: and we remember the.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: International Monetary Fund.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It was only last month warned nations not just not
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: just Australia, but they need to dial back on any
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: of their stimulus packages. So again this is a little
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: sweetener to Australians saying yay, look here you go, when
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: really it's generations to come that are still going to
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: be paying for this.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: It's a funny one. Again, I don't know. We already
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: had Bill Shorten who took a possibly identical or very
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: similar negative gearing package to nineteen the twenty nineteen election,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: and he now says if he had his way again,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: he'd take that policy to it and say I'll give
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: it all back to you in tax cuts. Now instead
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: these are coming as what is it, calling him income
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: income earning offsets or whatever it is. But I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: that's that seems to me like just a cash handout,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: which would be it would seem I'm pretty sure that
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: RBA is going to think it is inflationary more money
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: in people's pocket instead making it tax cuts and tax
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: cuts that favor lower income earners. Absolutely it should be,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: but tax cuts that basically give people an incentive to
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: work harder, earn more, which would increase productivity because you're
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: working harder, you're producing more, you're providing more services, which
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: means that that actually has a reverse impact on inflation
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: because you are providing more and more supply side to
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: meet the high demand side. So that I'm just an
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: art student, But isn't that what you should be doing
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: rather than just slamming a tax over here and then saying, hey,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: here's lots of cash at a time when inflation is
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: about you know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: No, Look, that's a very very good point. Tomorrow will
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: be very interesting. Also on the front page of the Odds,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: teen girl faces one hundred and nine charges in hate case.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: A Melbourne girl who allegedly searched online where did Jews
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: live before targeting Jewish Australians at a crime spree has
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: triggered warnings that anti Semitism is becoming aspirational among young people.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Lawyers for the fourteen year old told the Children's court
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: they would rely on the principle of dill Inca pax,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: which presumes children aged between ten and fourteen do not
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: understand their actions morally wrong. So this girl is accused
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: of committing one hundred and nine offenses while aged thirteen,
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: including allegedly using a stolen car to run down a
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: forty five year old cyclist in Brighton in Melbourne. After
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: searching online where do Jews live?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: What do you say? You know? Okay, putting this aside,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: it's in front of the courts.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Firstly, this dollar incapax argument drives me absolutely nuts that
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: children are incapable of evil.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Give me a break.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, how many times we've seen children go through
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: the court system, they get a step on the wrist
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: and they're back out then.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: But gee, this is this is a worry. This is
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: a real concern. Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: And again remember when they chanted on the steps of
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: this Sydney opera house and people thought might be gas
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: the Jews and a bunch of lefty palatine. The activists
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: said no, no, they were just chanty, where's the Jew?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And golly gosh they went out and found them. Bingo,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Well well done do the Daily Telegraph now the mighty
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Daily Telling And this is a huge story on a
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: similar line. After days, weeks and weeks even of this
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: nutty event that was going to be held at a
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Sydney City Council property in Darlington, which was all about
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: wasn't just didn't just have the slogan globalize the Interfada.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: It was an event that was basically whose title was
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: why we should be saying globalize the Interfarda, and it
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: was going to go ahead. Clover More, the Lord Mayor
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: refused to step in and ban it from happening, or
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: stop it from happening, or say no, you can't use
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: our venue, despite the calls from pretty much everybody else
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: on the planet who wasn't suffering from some kind of
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: acquired brain injury anyway. Good news is Sydney Access that
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: interfarda exclusive by my good friend and Caleb's good friend,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Susan Giuliani, a forum demanding the right to say the
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: violent slogan globalized the Interfada, and the City of Sydney
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: owned building has been canceled after intense public backlash. The
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph has been told that Lord Mayor Clover Night
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Clover Moore last night pulled the pin on the highly
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: controversial event scheduled to be held in Darlington tonight. So
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: good that I suppose she's finally seen the light. A
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: lot of her constituents will be very unhappy because they
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: thought that Clover was a fellow traveler. But gee, whiz.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: She took her time and well.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: She blamed the Murdock media, particularly the Daily Telegraph in
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: an extraordinary statement. So you know again, well there are
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: always the victims, aren't they remember? I mean, yeah, what's
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: her name? Grace Tam did the same thing, blame the media.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Can't we can't guarantee the safety of our people calling
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: for people to globalize the violent upright against Jewish people.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: It took Clover more weeks to come to the understanding
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: that all of us had immediately when we heard about
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: this event.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: What would happen if you drove you electric vehicle right
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: into the middle of floodwaters? A Northern Territory guy did
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: just that. We'll show you what happened.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: A break.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: New South Wales Green Senator David Shuebridge is always great
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: to follow on Instagram. You just never know what's going
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to pop up on the feed. This is his latest contribution.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I was just pulled over by police on my way
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: into Marty Grass at Nimber.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I look at this footage.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: His name, Yeah, Senator David Chuebridge is my name?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: O day you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: Canvas cocaine used recently, so to be quite frank, if
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: I had, I wouldn't tell you that I have.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: Why would you post that on except to show how
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: snarky you can be and how entitled and and by
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: the way, I never realized senator is like a first name.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Very don't you know who I am?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Very much?
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just so important.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I'm Senator David Jaret pro Don't you realize I'm progressive?
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: And I love it that he's like, oh yeah, if
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: I was, if I did take care cocaine, I wouldn't
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: tell you if I.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Was doing something illegal.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: That's why you have the test.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: We don't rely on cringe.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I wonder why if these don't respect police protests or
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: other events exactly?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Please are green sensors treating police.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Like Senator David Schubridge.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Please sorry forget Please please call him by his correct
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: title now.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Kamala Harris Gee.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: She loves a drink or two or three, and she
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: also loves a word salad. She was on stage over
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: at the weekend giving another Trump Derangement Syndrome brand, but
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: not everybody.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Was as excited by her words salad.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Have a look at the saxophonist people.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Text the streets.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, a message to that saxophonist.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: We all feel exactly the same every time we hear
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris speak.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: At least he got something out of the speech like
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a nap.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no good.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: I mean he's two birds with one stone, as they say,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: he had to play any napped at the same time,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: isn't it great?
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I got to say that was the best Sacks I've
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: ever had. Territory Now and a Tesla driver has escaped
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: tragedy when their car was washed off a flooded road.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: A stranded vehicle experts from NT Towing and Recovery collected
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: the tesla. What why the model?
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, the why stands? Why are you driving
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: a Tesla in the Northern Territory.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't imagine charging stations are particularly prevalent in the north.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe thought it said Northcote Territory. Anyway, And it was
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: an old by no roads at Berry Springs. Oh yes,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: it's one of the few places in swim without getting
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: eaten by crocodile.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: These pictures are extraordinary.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: About forty five minutes south of Darwin, failed to progress
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: through a flooded creek crossing the business posted images of
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: the incident to Facebook, describing it as a quite unquote
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars toaster taking a bar.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: Oh seriously, that this is just But doesn't it just
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: go to show how just non functional the teslas are
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: at the best of times.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame the tesla. I'd blame the driver. How
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: did you end up driving into floodwater?
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: I would blame that the driver, But just the Tessella's
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: just it's just not compatible with conditions for Australia unless
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: you live in the city.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Exactly. No, no, that. All the comments when this was
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: posted online proved quite the opposite. Dedanika one said it'll
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: be fine, just stick it in a tub with rice
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: from it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Someone else said, but what's he doing getting at charged
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: by an electric eel?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: You know how? Someone described it as, you know, a
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: toasted take I heard this do it. I do not
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: know if it's true, and it's decades old, so please
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: do not file any complaints. A guy who was threatening
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: to kill himself by dropping a toaster in the bath
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: is standing in the toast in the bath and the
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: cops came in. One of the guy's partners pulled up
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: the plug from the toaster and as a joke, the
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: cop just dropped it in the bath anyway, he jumped out.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: People are so rediscovered his lust for life.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: People are so clever an electric eel. That is the
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: funniest comment there.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: You go keep your Tesla out of floodwaters. That's it
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: from us stick around. Coming up is the Ridda Penney Show.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow night.