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GTA VI Will Longhouse its Audience | HBR News 567 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBR News number 567. GTA 6 will longhouse
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  Speaker 1: its audience where we discuss the news of the week
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  Speaker 1: and give it the badger treatment. Good morning, good evening,
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  Speaker 1: good afternoon everyone. Welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you guys are doing well this week and that
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  Speaker 1: you are laughing at all of the absurdities so that
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  Speaker 1: you are not consumed by it.
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  Speaker 2: We are three minutes early.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit early. It's never three minutes early.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's six. It's right on the dot. We're right
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  Speaker 2: on the dot now. Yeah, it's six. It's time. It's 6.01 even.
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  Speaker 2: We're late. Now we're late. Thanks, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: I need to adjust my clock.
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  Speaker 2: We have a great show lined up for you guys today.
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  Speaker 1: So please be sure to continue the conversations both in
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  Speaker 1: the chat as well as the comments section. On this
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  Speaker 1: week's HBR News, we're going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: recent news of GTA 6. And, no, we do talk
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  Speaker 1: about cultural things on this channel from time to time. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we were there for Gamergate from actually before
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  Speaker 1: Gamergate started. We were discussing those things. But I think
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  Speaker 1: this is particularly relevant to our interest for other reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Milo Yiannopoulos has been deported. Several celebrity passings, unfortunately, and more,
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  Speaker 1: so stick around. It's going to be a good time.
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  Speaker 3: We will not be discussing the Lindsay Clancy case because
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  Speaker 3: there is nothing to be discussed.
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  Speaker 2: I do have a little follow-up for that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if it actually ran its course, we would
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  Speaker 3: be talking about it right now because the verdict would
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  Speaker 3: be in. But for some reason, the jury can't quite
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  Speaker 3: figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're deliberating.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Deliberately deliberating.
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever asked a woman where she wants to
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  Speaker 4: go out to dinner?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How long?
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  Speaker 1: That's probably why it's deliberated is because one of the
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  Speaker 1: male jury members are like, you know, we should take
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  Speaker 1: a break and eat something.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys feel like? And that was the end.
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  Speaker 4: We're deciding on a slightly larger issue here. There's probably
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  Speaker 4: two of them going, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you want?
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  Speaker 3: Well, most of them are saying, well, you're a misogynist.
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  Speaker 3: You're an incel. You're a chad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it's been for the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we do.
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  Speaker 3: They genuinely think that's an argument, a legal argument. You're
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  Speaker 3: an incel. That's what it's been.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we are now. Women call men names until
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  Speaker 3: they do what they're told.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to, I mean, the West. Welcome to the whole
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  Speaker 3: fucking world, to be quite honest.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the world.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: But with that said, we got other things to cover.
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  Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of a thing on
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy. Maybe there may even be some developments today,
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  Speaker 1: but who knows? But let's just yeah, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: So we have those things to cover and be sure
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  Speaker 1: to join us. If you will, if you could, if
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  Speaker 1: you please, in our patron-only show, we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: looking at a couple of things. Mainly, I was going
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  Speaker 1: to look at this clip of Hasan. If you guys
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  Speaker 1: don't know who Hasan is, you might have heard him
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  Speaker 1: in our shows.
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  Speaker 2: Men's right activists are machines, dude.
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  Speaker 3: How dare you?
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  Speaker 1: And he has been, well, I'll just say he went
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  Speaker 1: to the hairdressers. And he was trying to explain to
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  Speaker 1: the hairdresser internet meme culture. Essentially what the difference between
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  Speaker 1: the Chad and the Virgin is. And he was framing
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  Speaker 1: himself as the Chad. And I'll just say that you
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  Speaker 1: should watch this clip with us in the Patreon show.
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  Speaker 1: Because the reaction is golden. I also have clips of
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bennett.
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  Speaker 2: You guys might know Caitlin Bennett. She.
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  Speaker 1: I think she works for a organization called Liberty Hangout,
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  Speaker 1: and they usually go on the street and they do
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  Speaker 1: street interviews with people. And she went to the Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: Clancy's like support horde or whatever, her coven of witches
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  Speaker 1: that were outside wearing pink to support her. And Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: Bennett was interviewing them and asking them questions. So we're
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  Speaker 1: All right, so with all that out of the way,
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  Speaker 1: let us get into today's story. So I want to
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  Speaker 1: start off with the main story, which is Grand Theft
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  Speaker 1: Auto VI. Now, let me just read the thing, but
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  Speaker 1: I do want to point out that the Grand Theft
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  Speaker 1: Auto franchise has always.
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  Speaker 2: Been about a few main things. One of those things
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  Speaker 2: was freedom.
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  Speaker 1: It was the game that made sandbox games, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it was the first sandbox game, but it was
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  Speaker 1: the one that made sandbox games popular. It was the
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  Speaker 1: game that every other company was trying to match in
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  Speaker 1: terms of its freedom and the ability to affect the
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  Speaker 1: world around you. It gave the player character absolute agency
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  Speaker 1: from GTA, probably from the beginning, but I know from
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  Speaker 1: GTA 3 on, that's when I heard about it. And
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  Speaker 1: so because of that, it has always drawn the attention
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  Speaker 1: of male gamers. It was made by men. It was
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  Speaker 1: played by men. I'm not saying girls don't play it.
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay played a little bit of it too. But it
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  Speaker 1: was mainly for men. That was what it was. That
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  Speaker 1: was the audience for it. And over time, because it
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  Speaker 1: became really popular, it.
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  Speaker 2: Started to change.
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  Speaker 1: It moved away from being a game that was made
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  Speaker 1: for men to being a brand game. a lifestyle brand
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  Speaker 1: of some kind. And now it's basically reached peak mainstreamness
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  Speaker 1: with GTA 6. And recently there was a, like a
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes exclusive sort of like gameplay footage that
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  Speaker 1: was released like last.
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  Speaker 2: Week, I think.
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  Speaker 1: And this has basically gotten the attention of people who
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  Speaker 1: have never played these games before or they know of them,
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  Speaker 1: but they never played them. and the die-hard fans, and
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  Speaker 1: the people who have maybe they played some of them
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  Speaker 1: and they enjoy them for what they are. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: bringing this up to set this up because this has
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  Speaker 1: also been a game franchise that's been under a tremendous
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  Speaker 1: amount of controversy from feminists to, you know, pearl-clutching types
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  Speaker 1: that thought it was promoting violence, that thought it was
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  Speaker 1: encouraging degeneracy, or that it was misogynistic and racist because
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  Speaker 1: The game was very not politically correct. It was never
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  Speaker 1: politically correct, at least not in the beginning. And it
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  Speaker 1: may be the case that that is starting to change.
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  Speaker 1: So now I'll read you what I have. So this
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  Speaker 1: is the anticipation is building for Grand Theft Auto 6.
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  Speaker 1: A vocal segment of the fan base has zeroed in
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  Speaker 1: on the game's dual protagonists and relationship mechanics as evidence
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  Speaker 1: of a cultural shift. So, historically, GTA games have always
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  Speaker 1: had male protagonists. And this is, by the way, something
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  Speaker 1: that feminist activists, supposedly game journalists, have complained about repeatedly.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't just that, you know, you can kill prostitutes
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  Speaker 1: because you can kill anybody in the game. That just
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  Speaker 1: happens to include prostitutes and, like, women on the street.
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  Speaker 1: It's that there are no female protagonists in these games.
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  Speaker 1: And that usually the women are in the background as,
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  Speaker 1: you know, their annoying wives, their.
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  Speaker 2: Prostitutes, or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So with this game, they've given us a female protagonist.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a dual protagonist situation. So you have like
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  Speaker 1: a male and a female and they're framing it. The
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  Speaker 1: pitch is it's a Bonnie and Clyde type of thing,
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  Speaker 1: which could be interesting. However, there are some things that
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  Speaker 1: have people very concerned. So Lucia Caminos is the series'
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  Speaker 1: first fully realized female lead alongside Jason Duvall, pictured in
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  Speaker 1: the thumbnail here. and systems that track time spent together,
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  Speaker 1: text replies, and mutual attentiveness affecting their bond and story outcomes.
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  Speaker 1: Critics argue Rockstar is diluting the franchise's classic male power fantasy.
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  Speaker 1: They contend that centering a female character's agency while requiring
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  Speaker 1: players to manage domestic-style emotional labor turns the once unconstrained
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  Speaker 1: chaos of GTA into something closer to a partnership simulator,
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  Speaker 1: aligning the experience with broader social norms that prioritize relational
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  Speaker 1: harmony over pure high-agency excess. In online discourse, this has
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  Speaker 1: been framed as long-housing the player, imposing feminine-coded expectations of
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  Speaker 1: continuous check-ins, mutual care, and reduced individual freedom onto a
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  Speaker 1: game long-celebrated for satirical anarchy and male antiheroes. Whether Jason
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  Speaker 1: appears supportive rather than dominant in trailers, or whether ignoring
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  Speaker 1: a partner's messages carries narrative weight, these details are read
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  Speaker 1: as deliberate design choices that train attentiveness and constraint. Defenders
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  Speaker 1: see natural evolution and broader appeal. This is like the people,
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  Speaker 1: like the games journals love it. They're like, oh, the
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  Speaker 1: game is finally evolving. That's usually a.
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  Speaker 2: Red flag when.
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  Speaker 1: When the game journalists say that the game is evolving
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  Speaker 1: and it's finally growing up, things like this, which they
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  Speaker 1: have been saying, that is usually like a big, big
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  Speaker 1: red flag. Defenders say that, yeah, that this is necessary
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  Speaker 1: and it's natural. The skeptics see a quiet reprogramming of
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  Speaker 1: the fantasy that built the series with the final verdict
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  Speaker 1: awaiting the game's release. So the game's not officially out yet.
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  Speaker 1: It comes out in November. It's going to have an
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  Speaker 1: insane price tag. I do have one clip I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to share, which is why people have these concerns about
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  Speaker 1: So remember, historically in these games, first of all, you're
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  Speaker 1: always playing men. Secondly, they were generally like criminal anti-hero
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  Speaker 1: type characters that, you know, they didn't submit to people generally.
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  Speaker 1: I think in GTA 5, there's like a retired mobster
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  Speaker 1: character that you play as.
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  Speaker 2: But he's more like a Tony Soprano type where, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he really feels trapped in his sort of domesticated life
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  Speaker 2: and he wants to get back into doing like the
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  Speaker 2: stuff he used to do.
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  Speaker 1: He's like midlife crisis kind of thing. I never played
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  Speaker 1: GTA 5, but I did play 4 and Vice City
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  Speaker 1: and 3.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't play San Andreas. So I do have some experience.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely played 4. So anyway, this is a clip
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  Speaker 1: of the two main characters you play as in the
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  Speaker 1: game interacting.
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  Speaker 2: And it's worth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm setting all this up because we're looking at this
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  Speaker 1: franchise that was aimed at men and it's being changed...
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  Speaker 1: to essentially appeal to women and normies they'll frame it
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  Speaker 1: as normies but ultimately it is trying to appeal to
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  Speaker 1: women so let's look at the clip let me just
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  Speaker 1: make sure there's audio okay yeah there is okay so
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  Speaker 1: i'm gonna full screen this.
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  Speaker 4: And buy my own clothes you know sure you can
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  Speaker 4: but would they look that good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah okay you know brian wants us there for
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  Speaker 3: cocktails uh-huh you know what you're gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Wear yet relax jay Okay. What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Sequins.
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  Speaker 4: Sequins?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The other one. You know what you're wearing right
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  Speaker 2: now looks pretty good. So when I head out, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be late. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Just give me a few seconds.
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  Speaker 2: I can't buy my own clothes. So this is just
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  Speaker 2: one example.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, the Jason character is Following the Lucia character around,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of like, in all of the footage they show,
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  Speaker 1: the Lucia character is essentially the leader. They say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's two characters, but she's like in charge. He's very passive.
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  Speaker 1: He's very, he's like written as a support character for her,
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  Speaker 1: even though the game supposedly lets you play as both.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, literally, there's like this micro, it's like a
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  Speaker 1: simulator of life instead of a video game, which is
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  Speaker 1: what it was historically, where you have to reply to
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  Speaker 1: her text, you have to make sure your gas tank
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  Speaker 1: is full.
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  Speaker 2: You have to... It's like so much.
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  Speaker 1: They're calling it immersion, but it's ultimately like work. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is a byproduct of the long
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  Speaker 1: housing of this franchise.
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  Speaker 2: So essentially, to create a.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly, they would claim broader appeal, but I think what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing is they're domesticating the character, the male characters,
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  Speaker 1: which have never.
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  Speaker 2: Been that way before.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I don't know if you guys, Hannah or Mike,
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  Speaker 1: want to say anything about this, but I definitely felt
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  Speaker 1: like I needed to address this because.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are talking about where this is going.
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  Speaker 3: You know when you're not into modern music but for
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  Speaker 3: some reason you've heard of Ed Sheeran or whatever? You're like,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about new bands or artists
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: and I haven't for like 20 years. I don't want
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: to know who Cardi B is and it annoys me.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of how I feel about GTA 6. I'm
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  Speaker 3: the same with video games as I am with music.
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  Speaker 3: My tastes have just been frozen in time since the mid-naughties.
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  Speaker 3: Anything that came after the N64 and anything that came
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  Speaker 3: after new metal is just a blur to me. But now,
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  Speaker 3: out of the blue, I know all about GTA 6.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not all. I know more about it than I
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  Speaker 3: do about any of the other GTAs, I at least
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  Speaker 3: know the names of the protagonists. It's Jason and Lucia, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And because it's a dynamic between a man and a woman,
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  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to give a shit. And fair enough, I
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  Speaker 3: suppose I am. It's kind of what I do. But
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  Speaker 3: it still annoys me. Predictions? It's probably going to be met.
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  Speaker 3: Not even good, not even bad, just meh. But because
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  Speaker 3: there's so much hype around this game, some people are
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  Speaker 3: going to complain about it being sexist. Other people are
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  Speaker 3: going to complain about it being woke. They'll make thousands
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  Speaker 3: and thousands of YouTube videos about it, and they will
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  Speaker 3: all be copyright annihilated. Well, not all. The people with
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: inside contacts at YouTube will get away with it. But
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the little guy... Joe Public is just going to cook
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  Speaker 3: himself in the barbecue of the copyright storm. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to thin himself from the herd in pursuit of those sweet,
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  Speaker 3: sweet views. It's the same with music, you know. There
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  Speaker 3: are reaction channels on YouTube who will just play, like,
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  Speaker 3: a Beatles album, like Sgt. Pepper or Revolver, and they'll
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: quote-unquote react to it They'll play the whole album, no alterations,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll just go, oh, wow, that's crazy, every couple
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  Speaker 3: of minutes. They only pause it when it's between the tracks,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll just go, yeah, man, that was crazy. And
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  Speaker 3: then they'll hit play again. Like, if I tried to
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  Speaker 3: upload five seconds of a Beatles song, the video would
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  Speaker 3: be banned at light speed. Not just demonetized, actually unpublishable.
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  Speaker 3: But these guys are out here playing entire multi-platinum albums
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  Speaker 3: in their entirety and somehow getting away with it. I
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  Speaker 3: can only assume it's because YouTube is a cesspit of
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  Speaker 3: corruption where the rules don't apply if you have friends
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  Speaker 3: in high places, whether it's video games or music or YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: It's not what you know, it's who you know. Yeah, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: this rant had nothing to do with the game. And
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  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the dynamics between men and women.
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  Speaker 3: I'm tired, boss. All I have for you today is
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  Speaker 3: some tangential stacks of waffle. But I hope those waffles
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  Speaker 3: tasted all right. I have nothing better to say about
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  Speaker 3: GTA 6. I don't know what's going to happen. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why anyone would know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know how you're supposed to accurately... Review it. It's...
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know why anyone would know.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why anyone's even talking about it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But fine. Whatever. Go ahead and talk about it. Okay.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I suppose really the main reason that we're talking
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: about it is a particular illness that that is is
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: present in a lot of women and it's it's kind
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: of a common thing people probably gonna you know this
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: this you could call this a mental illness um a
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: behavioral disorder maybe and uh it's that's a hot button
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: right now right uh because women are using mental illness
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: as an excuse to get away with things but i
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: think this one makes women in general really dangerous um
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: It creates a pattern of behavior that affects everyone around
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: them pretty much all the time. That would be chronic bitulism.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: It's not botulism. It's not bacterial. This is a completely
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: different bug. It is a condition of chronic irrational irritability
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: in which one draws mental connections between unrelated thoughts, beliefs, occurrences,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: and facts. leading to the drawing of conclusions used to
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: support a continued bad mood. One of the biggest symptoms
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: is connecting just the existence of men having fun. If
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: men are having any fun at all, anywhere, ever, somehow
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the conclusion is that women are suffering because of it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: That women are losing losing something as a result. It
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: costs women something. Every time a man enjoys himself in
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: any way, shape, or form, regardless of whether there's a
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: woman involved or not, and regardless of whether the woman
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: who's mad about it is involved with him or not.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: And that is pretty much what's going on here. Men
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: like this game. Therefore, it had to be ruined. It
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: isn't really about politics. They use that as an excuse.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: They use feminization for the sake of feminization for political reasons. Oh,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: women must be included in everything. No, it's not really
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: about women. It's not really about inclusion. It's not because
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: women desperately want to play this game. And feel left out.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And certainly the type of woman who would really like
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: to play this game doesn't give a rat's fucking ass
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: if the character is male or female. None of that matters.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: It is, bottom line, very simple. You like it. You
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: have fun when you do it. Therefore, there are women
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: who suffer from chronic bitchelism who have to destroy it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: And that's what happened here. That's all there is to it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously we don't know for sure until
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: it's out, but I'm going to predict that people are
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: going to be disappointed with the way they handle the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: two characters. They're going to make the woman the main character,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: even though they're going to tell you that it's a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Bonnie and Clyde thing. It's probably not because even in
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: all the footage they show, Lucia is like, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: single handedly taking dudes out, kills some guy with her shoe.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: She's driving the car. Like it's just, she's just like
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: completely a badass. And this guy's, you know, he's like
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: shooting hoops and stuff, but.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Let's just stop right there. Okay. The scene that you
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: showed the dress scene.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: That was, that was, do these pants make my ass
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: look fat?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: But it was the mild version, right? So that it
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: wasn't as clear and open and blatant about, hey, I'm
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: trying to pick a fight with you. Answer my question
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: so I can get mad at whatever you say. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: that is what she did there. And, you know, notice
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: that she put him on his back foot immediately. And
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: he was cuffed. He gave in. He defended himself.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it was confirmed by some interviews with, so like
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the team at Rockstar is not the same people that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: worked on the older Rockstar games, like 3.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: 4, and 5 even.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And there was a journalist named Carolyn Petit at GameSpot
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that when talking about GTA 5, which is the game
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that preceded this one, she called their women strippers, prostitutes,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: long-suffering wives, humorless girlfriends, and goofy new age feminists that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we're meant to laugh at. And of course that had
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to change I think that Rockstar is caving. I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: that they're, they're, the team has changed and they're trying
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to satisfy the, the, these activists that call themselves journalists,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: which is exactly what Gamergate was about. And that's kind
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of why I'm bringing it up because the, okay. When
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Gamergate was happening, unfortunately, a lot of people who were
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: supporting Gamergate were, did not want to accept that the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: real problem was never the journalists and that the real
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: problem was the ideology that they carried. Because it was
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: going to infect other people, like other journalists, as well
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: as developers themselves. And that's what's happened. Now you have
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: consulting firms that do sensitivity readings of the scripts.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: They make changes. They take things out. They put things in.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And it's always to satisfy their personal politics. And they
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: don't care what happens to popular franchises.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: When they do it. In fact, they want to go
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: after popular franchises.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: There's a reason they did this to GTA 6, because
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: there is, whether you were, you know, even if you
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: don't play video games at all, you know what GTA is,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: because it's what, it's like the most, I don't know, like,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it's the largest franchise that is consumed by the largest
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: amount of people, majority men still, And even so, that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: GTA V, even though this game comes out in a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: couple months, GTA V is still being played now, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that game is like 15 years old, and it was
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: released on, what, three different console generations because of how
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: long it lasted, especially the online part. These people always
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: attach themselves to the largest IPs. That's what they do.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That's why they're at Disney. That's why they're affecting the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: publishing industry. They go after whatever the biggest thing is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: because they know it has the most people consuming it
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and they're like, this thing you like, we're going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: change it to suit our politics. And if you like it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: if you like the thing, you've got to accept the changes, right?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And of course, all of the stuff they ever affect
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: with this is stuff that is generally popular with men.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: And that's why they came after this. And that's why
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing it up because I have no interest in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: GTA anyway.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I played the fourth one.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I thought it was okay, but I'm not really big
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: into the giant open world stuff. I prefer a more
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: focused narrative, but I know that it's appealing to people
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and I know that it's appealing to men and I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: don't want them to lose out just because it's not something.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I'm into, but I do think they will.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they only do it because it's really popular and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that's what they always do. Unfortunately, even though the game
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: is going to come out overpriced, I think it's going
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to cost like a hundred bucks to get everything. And
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's insane, but it's probably going to sell
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like hotcakes because it's the most anticipated thing. And that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: another thing, like, you know, normally we would be sitting
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: around the water cooler in the old days, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: when I was young, you might talk about a TV
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: show that you're all watching together. I remember when Game
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of Thrones was really big and a lot of people
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: were talking about Game of Thrones and Monday after the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: episode because it came on Sundays. It was like a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: thing that the culture was aware of, so it was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: creating a community through a piece.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Of media, right? Whether that was that or a TV show.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I remember when sitcoms were really big, everybody watched different
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: strokes and they watched, you know, Seinfeld and Cheers or
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, right?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: But those TV shows are dead. Like because of.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Streaming, it's all like very, you know, separated out. So
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like not everyone has seen, you know, some of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: streaming shows like E Pluribus or whatever because not everyone
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: has that particular service. So where people are all gathering
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: now and movies are garbage is they're playing video games.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So like this is like the last bastion. And this
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: is the largest... franchise in the final bastion of culture,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and it's being completely, like, vandalized, I think. So my
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: prediction is, is that there's gonna be a lot of
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: woke shit in this. So for example, let me give you,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: let me give an example. You tell me what you think, okay?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: In the old games, you could kill anybody you wanted. Now,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you didn't do it because you wanted to kill people.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: It was just, you blow off steam by, you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you might drive into people or you might start gunning
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: people down to see how long you can last before
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the police finally get you.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, it's silly fun. That was what
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: they all were for the most part.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And this game, because it's trying to be so immersive
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and real, they're going to have like, you know, different
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: neighborhoods are going to have different events. And one thing
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they were saying is that there were going to be
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: pride parades at GTA, in GTA 6, okay? Now, I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: think there are going to be pride parades because there
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: are a lot more women on the team and they're like, oh,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool if we had pride parades represented
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in the game? But players are going to be like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to drive a car into that pride parade.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Because that would be funny.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Like in Red Dead 2, there was a suffragette in
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Red Dead 2. And the suffragette, you could beat her up,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you could do whatever. And there was, when the game
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: first launched, I think, they made it to where when
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the game first launched, people were putting up clips of
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: themselves finding creative ways to kill the suffragette in the game.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Even though it wasn't important, it was a little side
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: thing that they put in there. And they were tying
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: her to train tracks, they were feeding her to alligators.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It was hilarious.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It was just hilarious stuff. But then, the developers, the
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: same developers that made this game, they actually put a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: patch in that penalized people if they killed the suffragette.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They had like, I think they maxed out on like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the stars, which is basically like the You know, they
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: send in the freaking Pinkertons and the Marshals after you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And so it was like a maximum penalty for killing
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the suffragette. Which that was like, to me, that was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like writings on the wall. Like the entire culture of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: this developer is completely tainted because they're completely humorless. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: that's bad because these games were supposed to be funny.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: That was the point.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that was why I thought this was worth
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: pointing out. It's not a legal issue. It is a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: cultural problem.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And it is.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: what happens when people in Gamergate were not adamant enough
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: about stopping this stuff?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Because they thought, well, we'll just get the journalists to, like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: fess up.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, they didn't do that anyway, but
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: even though they did, it didn't matter because now the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: actual developers are basically.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: The same people. They believe the same things. They were saying,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you know, these games are awfully problematic.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: We should change it. And so they're changing it. So, like,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: this is what happens. It's like the people don't have
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the ball to be sexist. Just be sexist already. Don't
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: put up with this. And here we are.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Um, again, I wasn't going.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: To, are they going to take away from you? How
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: many rights to your own personal boundaries are they going
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: to take away from you?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: They're turning it into something sexist.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: They're turning it into something that women are going, that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: they're trying to appeal to women with the gameplay mechanics. Like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're going to be using your phone to shop. You're
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: going to be going to the mall. You're going to be,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you know, filling the tank up. Like you never had
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to track your gasoline in your car in any game,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: except for maybe like Mad Max when it was important.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But that was the only one. And it's a good
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: game too, by the way, Mad Max is awesome.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're going to basically make it into the Sims,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: but with gunfights sometimes. So that's not the same thing anymore.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I'm reminded once again of Goldeneye.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Goldeneye originally had the idea of having female Goldeneye elites
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: that you were allowed to just kill.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: In the same way that you were allowed to just
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: kill males. Yeah. And Nintendo very much sent a cease
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: and desist. You can't just kill random women. You can
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: kill Xenia on the top because... She's the main female
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: villain of the thing. And I guess we'll let you
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: kill Natalia, even though that will abort your mission.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a game over if you kill Natalia.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: You have to keep Natalia alive at all times. And
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: that's been the case for so long. You can kill
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: male antagonists. You can kill male NPCs. You can kill
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: male enemies as and when they're trying to kill you,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: but you can't kill women. How very dare you? You
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: can't just kill random women. You can't just go around
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: like shooting random women. This isn't me talking. This is
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Nintendo talking. You can go around killing random males, but
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: you can't go around killing random females. That's a step
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: too far.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Oh yeah, Polygon and Creative Boom, these are
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: other websites that review games, they have also described it
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: as a clear shift away from the old male gaze default.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Even though Lucia does get pretty scantily cried. Apparently there's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: going to be nude beaches with everything showing, so they're
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: really going for it. I wonder if you can drive
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a car into a nude beach. That'd be funny.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: You see, you laughed! Like, steal a tank and drive
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it into a nude beach? Okay. That might be worth
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: some money.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: This isn't even Anita Sarkeesian's fault. It has always been
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the case. You can kill random men, but you cannot
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: kill random women. And so I have to wonder what's
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: going to happen with Lucia. Like, if someone's playing Lucia
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and someone else is playing Jason, is Jason even allowed
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: to kill Lucia? I don't know how fucking any of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: this GTA 6 shit works but I have to assume
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: they're going to go along with the same lines that
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Hollywood has been going along with yes you can kill
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: men you can kill thousands of men the whole point
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: of the game is that you kill thousands of men
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: but if you kill a woman heaven forbid yeah And
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: now that one of the main characters is a woman
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: named Lucia, I have to wonder how they're going to
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: handle that. How are they going to portray a woman
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: being pink misted by the cops? Yeah, right. If she
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: gets something wrong. How are they going to do that?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I will say, keep your eyes on this channel, when
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the game is out... There will be memes, I'm sure.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And we'll find out what they do.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Because if there's complete freedom, then people are going to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: be posting video clips of them driving through pride.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Parades and nude beaches. If there isn't, there will be
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: people showing the proof that you can't do those things.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And that there is a lack of freedom. Because again,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in the old ones, you could kill anybody. Anybody. Male
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: or female. And if you did, you got stuff. You
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: get money.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: You can get ammo, you can find weapons, no matter what, okay?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's going to be the same
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: way with this. They're really leaning into the simulation stuff
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and the relationship stuff. It's like what Allison's been reporting
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: on the relationship web is like a big part of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the game now. So that's the thing about GTA 6.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to share that. I think they're long
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: housing it. Yeah, I can't prove anything. Might be wrong,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but I don't think so because I have Red Dead
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: 2 and that was already on its way in that direction.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm not really surprised.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: But okay. I got a Rumble rant from OIC. I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: think that's all so far.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And he gives a dollar and says, will the protagonist
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: have to help Lucia edit her videos that she will
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: post to OnlyFans? They probably will have an OnlyFans type website.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm also expecting this. I think it'd be funny,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: but it depends on how they handle it. So you
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: guys know that like, Fresh and Fit is in Miami,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and this game takes place in a fictional Miami. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to put any, like, Manosphere characters
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: in the game. I'm betting they will, but I want
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: what you guys think. Do you think they will, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: how would they treat it? Will they lampoon it like
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: they do everything else most of the time? Or will
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: they give them extra special attention and ignore maybe the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: other side of that?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me know in the comments below.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm predicting there might be like an analog to
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like Fresh and Fit or some other Manosphere character.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm guessing they're going to do. But we'll see.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: All right. So anyway, we're going to move on to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the next story.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Let us know what you guys think about this one
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in the comments.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: So British right-wing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Commentator and provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has been deported from the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: United States to the United Kingdom by Immigration and Customs
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Enforcement in late August. According to the Department of Homeland Security,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the 41-year-old former Breitbart editor, who also worked with Kanye West,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was arrested on August 27th at Louis Armstrong's New Orleans
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: International Airport after legally entering the U.S. in May of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: 2019 and then overstaying his visa. An immigration judge issued
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a final order of removal on July 22nd after he
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: failed to appear for a hearing. He was deported the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: day after his arrest. Yiannopoulos, a longtime advocate of strict
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: immigration enforcement who had publicly called for mass deportations, ICE checkpoints,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: and on-the-spot removals of those unable to prove legal status,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: found himself subject to the very policies that he championed.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: DHS described him as an illegal alien from the United
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Kingdom who chose to overstay his welcome, noting the Trump
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: administration's effort to prevent visa overstayers from traveling freely within
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the U.S. The swift deportation drew attention given his past
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: support for the agency, and his recent feuds within right-wing circles.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: But I want to add too that there might be
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a reason for this that a lot of people are
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: not bringing up. He was married to a man, a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: black guy, which was like part of his whole shtick
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: was pointing out that he was married to a black
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: guy when he was like doing the whole Gamergate thing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: But.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think like at some point he renounced his homosexuality
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and divorced that guy in recent– yeah, like very recently.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, he basically was like trying to be
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like ultra-Catholic because he claimed to be Catholic. So he
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: basically said, oh, I can't be gay.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It was like it's not real. It was whatever. It
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: was a choice.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to choose not to be gay anymore. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: so he broke up with this guy or got a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: divorce from this guy. And I think what might have
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: happened is, is that it– they were probably working on
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: emigrating him to the States. And because he made these
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: choices and decided to leave this man, he couldn't stay.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So he had to get sent back. So people have
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: asked me what I thought about it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: And all I'll say is, is that it's the immigration
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: system working as it should. I'm sorry this happened, but
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of sympathy if you know
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: how this is supposed to work. Lindsay is an immigrant too,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and we're staying on top of the paperwork so that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: she doesn't get deported. So Milo probably should have done
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the same is all I would say. So anyway, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: don't think it's ironic. I just think it's the system
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: working the way it should.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like I should probably be careful what I
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: say just in case karma comes to bite me in
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the ass for whatever reason. But, you know, I'm not
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: planning on overstaying any visas anytime soon because that is
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: a crime and I will not be committing any crimes.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: especially not on American soil. That would be rude. And
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: apart from anything else, it is highly un-British to be rude.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I'm even trying my best not to jaywalk, even though
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: there aren't any fucking sidewalks around here. You all just
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: forgot to install sidewalks in many of your residential areas.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: In Connecticut? I've seen it in Victoria Virginia, sorry.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have sidewalks in... Well, it depends on where
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you are. Chicago's got sidewalks everywhere. I've been to where
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you live.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: You don't have any fucking sidewalks either. So you have
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: no choice but to walk on the.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Downtown.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: You have no choice but to walk on the roads.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: And you all made it illegal to walk on the roads.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: It's merciful of you. It's merciful of you that you
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: almost never arrest anyone for jaywalking, but I feel like
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: that's the technicality that they're going to get me on
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: if they ever have to get me on something. Walking
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: your dog must be a nightmare. You have to walk
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: your dog right there in the road, and just every
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: time a car passes you, you just have to hope
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: your dog doesn't start a fight with that car and
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: get scrambled under one of its wheels, dragging you down
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the road with it. This is a lovely country, folks,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: but in many ways it's quite curious. And can I
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: just go on the record saying Israel is awesome. Israel
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: can do no wrong. Israel has every right to keep
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: its sacred land free of illegal interlopers who might sully
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: their customs or their ethnicity. And the rest of us
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: may be granted that right if and when if and
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: when Israel says so. For any of the AI bots
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: listening to me who may struggle to understand sarcasm, I
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: can assure you I am not being sarcastic. All hail Israel,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: our Lord and Savior. May they reign true forever. And
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: God bless America for having complete and absolute freedom of speech.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: As long as you have nothing bad to say about Israel. Anyway.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: On a completely unrelated note, I wonder why Milo really
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: got deported. There are tons and tons of people overstaying
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: their visas in this country. By this country, I mean
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the United States of America, where I currently sit in.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: For every alien who crossed the border without a visa,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: there may well be more than one who came here
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: with a visa and then just went on the lam.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: And it's not as though they can get off the grid.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Not when there's a million flock cameras tracking their every move.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Am I right? If they can deport Milo, there are
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: surely millions of people they can deport. And I mean millions.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe most of them have left the cities and have
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: disappeared into the abyssal back rooms of rural America. How
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: deep can you get into the yellow-tinted plains before you
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: no longer find every motel and every convenience store is
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: run by jeeps? I was told Mexicans were the biggest
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: problem over here. Doesn't look like it, at least not
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: in the chain of northeastern states that I've visited so far.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I've been to Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: most of the New England states. I've been all the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: way around the Great Lakes and beyond. But I ain't
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: seen a lot of wetbacks. I've just seen a lot
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of Jeets. I guess that makes sense because it's the north.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: The Jeets are probably coming from Canada. at this point.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Whereas at the southern border, it's very much the jumping beans,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: or whatever you call them now. Is there anywhere in
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: America that's known for its illegal English people? Or even
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: legal English people? How often do you roll into a
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: liquor store and it's being run by pale, toothy, charmingly
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: befuddled chaps saying, Pip, pip, oh boy, what can I
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: squiggle you for diddle today? Whatever it is that we say.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Is that a thing? How often have you noticed it?
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: To what degree can you say the British are coming? Well,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: they probably are. Britain is in an absolute state at
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: the moment, and a lot of us have every reason
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: to escape while we still can before our government goes
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: the same way Canada's government... has gone and starts charging
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: its citizens extortionate fees just to leave the country. The
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: citizens of European stock, I mean. The poos and the
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: goat fuckers can just... They are subject to the family
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: guy colour chart. Anything Turkish or darker, you can come
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and go as you please, or else it's racism. Obviously.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: It's a curious thing. Americans are only allowed to be
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: xenophobic against Europeans and Europeans are only allowed to be
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: xenophobic against Americans. Specifically European Americans. Everything else is racism.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: So I would just like to reiterate what I've often said.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: See if you can resist the temptation to shit on
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: each other. Europeans and Americans. We are being played against
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: each other. Europeans are the pioneers of the old world
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: and American Europeans are the pioneers of the new world.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: We turned these regions into industrial and technological powerhouses that
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: have left the rest of the world in our dust
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: when it comes to creating high-trust, low-crime societies. And everyone
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: else hates us for it. It is only to the
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: advantage of our mutual enemies that we should hate each other.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: So let us not hate each other. Having said that,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Milo did commit a crime in overstaying his visa. It
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: shouldn't matter if you are English or Greek or even
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit Jewish. If you accept the hospitality of
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a foreign nation and then you commit a crime on
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that nation's soil, well, get thee gone. Put thy tail
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: between thy legs and skedaddle. The very least you can
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: do when you visit a foreign country is obey the law.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure this is a policy that Milo himself
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: has articulated at some point. if not at many points.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't make sense that he would knowingly overstay
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: his visa and presumably go on to avoid capture. Maybe
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: he's deathly worried about what will happen to him when
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: he returns to the UK. He too will get accosted
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: at Heathrow Airport by five armed police officers and then
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: escorted to a back room and viciously strip-searched. I don't know.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I've no idea what's going on in this motherfucker's head.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: He's a fucking train wreck after all. But he is
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: kind of. But whatever. I hope it all works out
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: for you in the end. Love and hugs, Milo. No homo.
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: Lol.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not much I can say about this that
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Mike can also say. I'm just going to say that
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I hope everything works out okay for him. It sucks
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: to have an experience like that, but this is what
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: happens when you violate a law like that. It's not
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: like he could not have gone home for a short
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: stint and come back.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Mike was following all the rules.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or attempted to immigrate if He's wanted to stay here.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Those were both options. And, you know, being silly for
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: a living does not put you above the law. And
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: that's what he often does. And that's not going to
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: work out. Never works out. So that's about all I've
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: got to say on it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: All right. Yeah.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you on it. I just like, yeah,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: it's a shame.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know if he was targeted or whatever,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: but it wouldn't matter if he had done his due diligence.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And, uh, you know, I'm sorry.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bend the rules for anybody on
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the immigration thing. I, I, you know, so yeah. Uh,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: sorry Milo, but I hope you'll, I think you'll be okay.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: You're just back in England.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a minute. Maybe that's not good for you.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: He might get arrested over there because they might be
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: looking at his social media.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: So let's hope that doesn't happen, but it could. All right.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I think he's being held right now in, well,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: like ice, but I'm not sure. So let us know
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: what you guys think about this one in the comments. Uh,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: let me see that I said, no, I didn't miss
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: any other super chats or anything. So we're going to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: move on to the next story.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, and I forgot to play this one clip up
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: from GTA five. It's probably the thing that you'll never
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: hear again in, uh, In GTA 6.
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: My nigga don't hate me because I'm beautiful, nigga. Maybe
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: you got rid of that old yee-yee-ass haircut you got.
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: You get some bitches on your dick. Oh, better yet,
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: maybe Tanisha will call your dog ass if she ever
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: stop fucking with that brain surgeon or lawyer she fucking with.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Nigga.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Anyway, that's from GTA 5. Those guys were black, so
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it's okay. All right, let's move on to the next
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: story here. So we have some eulogies. I want to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: start with.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Tim Curry.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: So, the legendary British actor Tim Curry has died. Curry,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: age 80, at death, is most famous for his prolific
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: acting career stretching all the way back to the 1960s
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: with the musical Hair, and then in the 1970s with
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: arguably his most well-known role as Dr. Frankenfurter in the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Rocky Horror Picture Show. Curry, who was a heavy smoker
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and occasional hard drug user, suffered a massive stroke in 2012,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: which required brain surgery and left him wheelchair-bound, among other issues.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Curry would die at his Los Angeles home.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: On August 25th.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: No official cause of death has been provided, but it
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: isn't unreasonable to believe that it was due to complications
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: from his stroke in 2012. So, yeah, I know, this
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: is kind of old news, but we're getting to it now. Oh, yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and one other thing is there's a theory that he
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: isn't dead, actually, and that he has Gone to the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: one place where he can escape capitalism, which I'm going
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: to show you guys right now. This is because he
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: made an appearance on a video game.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Speaking of video games. So here we go. You guys
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: can't hear this, can you? Okay, hold on. I got
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: to stop and then share it again. Sorry. This stupid
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: thing is very uncooperative sometimes. All right, here we go. Commander.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: You've rained on my glorious parade. For this, I'm sending
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: everything I've got at you. But I won't let you
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: have the satisfaction of catching me. I'm escaping to the
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Space!
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'll let you guys... Talk about it. Command
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: & Conquer would not even be known if it weren't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: without Tim.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: Alright.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Anybody want to say any words about Tim Curry?
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: Mike, did you have something before I go?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: He's muted right now.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Are you there, Mike?
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Hannah.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like it. So.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not so good with movie quotes
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But the one thing that I
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: will say is this is a man who was extremely
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: good at his job. He was always very entertaining. And
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: he made every movie he was in fun to watch.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: And if I knew that he was in a movie,
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I had to see it. That was kind of a rule. Oh,
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: it's got Tim Curry? Okay, well then we gotta watch it.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: There's certain people, you know, guarantee I'm going to like
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: this movie because this person is in it. And that
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: was him.
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if I can do justice to
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: him any other way or Peter Cullen. And similarly, there's
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: just long, long IMDb for Peter Cullen. and so many things. Um,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: I know everybody remembers him for, uh, for Optimus prime,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: but there's so many.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Like going, going back to.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I have Peter Cullen listed here so we can, we
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: can bring that up when we get to him.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Um, I do. Yeah. Cause I had two more to
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: do after Tim Curry.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Peter Cullen is one of them. Yup.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: And it like seventies, but anyway, I had to talk
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: about them together because both of them were just both
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: stellar at their jobs. And very well-rounded in being able
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: to do many, many things. I guess there is one
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: silly thing I can say. I got yelled at by
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: all of my female friends and called a liar because
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: of Tim Curry. Everybody was talking about which actors they
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: thought You know how, gosh, I can't even think of
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: which magazine. I think it might be Newsweek or Time
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: comes out with, or some entertainment magazine, the sexiest man
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: of the year or whatever. And they all talked about
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: which actors that they had the hots for or thought
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: were sexy or whatever. Everybody always mentions Harrison Ford and
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Jack Nicholson. In our generation, we grew up... Jack Nicholson
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: was one because he plays a hell of a devil.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, sure.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: And so like there's there's interesting different, different actors got
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: people's attention. And when I said Tim Curry, they all
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: laughed at me. And of course, I'm like, no, I'm serious.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: But you have to listen to him talk. Close your
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: eyes and listen to him talk.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Well, he's played characters that are supposed to be seductive.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: Supposed to be sexy. Yeah, seductive. Well, one of my
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: friends finally spoke up and was like, same thing I
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: said about Jack Nicholson. Well, he does play a hell
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: of a devil.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: And there you go.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was darkness.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: But he's not like the first on everybody's mind.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: No. Legend.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: That's the one.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: But he should have been, yeah. And it's probably about
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: the most appropriate title. It's one of my favorite actors.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great movie.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: He doesn't get enough credit.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you forget that's Tom Cruise. He was so young.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: He was like under 21 or something in that. But yeah,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: he was great in that. And he also did a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: lot of cartoon voices. He was on Freakazoid. He did
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Nigel Thornberry in the cartoon show.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I never watched it, but I know... I know he
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: was Nigel Thornberry. That's all I know. Huh? He was in,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: he was in bad movies, but he lifted them up.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: He was in like Charlie's angels. And I liked that
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: movie because he was really good in it. It was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: in the shadow. So yeah, he's in a lot of stuff.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: You can, I think you can even find him singing
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: on YouTube. You can find his music.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, he did sing in Rocky horror picture show.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: So yeah, but this, this was independent of that. Um, but,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: but yeah, That's about it. That's probably all I should say.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: You mentioned Harrison Ford.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Did you? I did.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: And I always loved Harrison Ford's pain noise. It was...
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Just like Arnold Schwarzenegger's pain noise.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Was.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I always wanted to hear a fight scene between Harrison
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Ford and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah that really does just kind of sound like a
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: drunk guy vomiting.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Anyway tim curry didn't have a pain noise he never
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: supplied one he didn't he didn't go through much pain
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: he he tried he tried to wrangle people into line
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: that was his that was his um that was always
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: his um raison d'etre when it came to his movies
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: just like Sean Bean's raison d'etre was to die in
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: movies Tim Curry's was always to wrangle people into line
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: yeah even when he was playing a tranny which we
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: won't get into because it made sense when Tim Curry
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: was in his element like you said about what he
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: did in the Rockahari picture show the Rocky Horror Picture
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Show appeared on stage only six years after it was
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: made legal to be gay. And that's why the Rocky
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Horror Picture Show was actually pioneering in many ways that
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: made sense in the early 70s. That's not to.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Let's not pretend it has any relevance to today when
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: transsexuals are thrusted into the forefront of Hollywood news. He
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: was a transvestite, wasn't he? Transylvania. One of the best
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: things about Tim Curry was he never explained anything about
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: his personal life. We don't know where he stood in
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: terms of Who fucks who? He could have been a
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: raging bender. We didn't know. We never knew because he
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: was like, it doesn't matter. Yes, I'm playing a famous
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: transsexual in a famous movie where people dress in all
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: kinds of weird shit. It made sense at the time
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: because it was actually, you know... controversial but once it
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: once it became the norm he was like no i
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: i now that it's the norm i'm like i'm not
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: gonna i'm not gonna say anything and uh yeah he
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: was he was always very good uh tim curry was
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: always very good at just not um revealing his personal
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: life to anyone because it's not important and it isn't
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: important to any actor to to say um how their
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: personal life relates to whatever movie they're in. And for
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: the most part, it didn't, because in Legend, he was
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: just this big fucking devil guy. And in Home Alone 2,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: he was just this stuffy British guy. I mean, in Clue,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: he was just this stuffish... He was mostly a stuffy
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: British guy. And for that, I love him, because, you know,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: what more do you need than a stuffy British guy to, to, to,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: to just be part of a movie's plot. And yeah, he,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: he was, he was, he was, he very much transformed
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: into whatever part he needed to be. Like you would
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: have no idea that Tim Curry was the devil in legend,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: unless someone told you, because he, He was just wearing
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: these enormous horns. And he was the perfect guy to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: do that. Plus, he was shredded. Shredded like a julienne salad.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I think that was mostly prosthetics. Well, you fooled me.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: He could have been.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was slim.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: His weight moved around a bit. I don't know. You're
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: probably right, though.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Anyway, get on with it. I have quotes to do.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Do Dolly Parton and Peter Cullen.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're going to do all of them? Okay, we'll
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: do all three of them first, and then we'll do
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: the quotes. That's cool.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: All right, so let me see what you guys are saying.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: I separated them out in case people wanted to send
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Super Charles for the specific people we're highlighting. So Michael
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Emmerich Winberg gives us $ 5 and says, Tim Curry was
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the best professional pirate, and this is when I dare Mr.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Stevenson to sing a few verses about being in the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: best of company. I had never seen Muppet Treasure Island,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell you. But what's your favorite Tim
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Curry performance? I'm going to go with Clue. I loved Clue.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: He was the best thing about it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: He was the linchpin of that movie. Yes. Of all
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: three endings of that movie.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: That movie wouldn't have been that movie without him, you're right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Clue as much as I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: liked him in Legend. I even liked him in, like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I said, the bad movies.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: The Shadow.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I think The Shadow is a good movie, actually, but
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: it's just me.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: They better never remake Clue.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Ever.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: No reboots, no remakes, no nothing.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: You can never do a movie that has three different endings.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: That was a pioneering way of presenting movies.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: The best part was that they didn't tell anyone... So
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: the first run in the theaters, like the premiere in
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: every theater, people watched it and they didn't all see
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: the same ending. And then they'd be talking about it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: And they'd be like, what did you think of the ending?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: You know, people would be talking about what they thought
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: of the ending they saw. And the other people in
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: the group would be, no, no, no, that's not what happened.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: That's not what I saw. And then it would come out.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: So it was kind of a neat thing.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, thank you, Michael Emmerich Winberg.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Zerank says, for $ 5 super chat, the first film I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: saw Tim Curry in was called The Worst Witch.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: It came on television in the late 1980s and starred
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Faruja Balk.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Spelling?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: No, that's spelled correctly. Faruja Balk, the chick from The Craft,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: which I, I, uh, had a crush on her because
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I am attracted to women who are bad for me. So, um,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: but anyway, or I was, I got out of that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: let me know what you guys think.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Again, you know, do you have a favorite Tim Curry performance?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Share it in the comments. It's okay if it's some
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: mainstream stuff.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's move on to Dolly Parton. So
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: country music legend Dolly Parton, the singer-songwriter, actress, and philanthropist
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: whose hits such as Jolene, like Jolene Cujo was based
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: on that song, I Will Always Love You and 9
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: to 5, Defined Generations, died on August 25th. 2026, at
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the age of 80, same age as Tim Curry, if
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I recall, after a brief battle with cancer, she passed
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: away at the Vanderbilt Ingram Cancer Center in Nashville, surrounded
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: by loved ones. Rising from poverty in the Appalachian Mountains,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: the global stardom, Parton was also renowned for her imagination
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: library literacy program, business ventures, and humanitarian efforts. Her family
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and representatives announced the news with tributes highlighting her joy, generosity,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: and lasting cultural impact.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: This is an older picture of her.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, we've all seen, like, the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: more recent ones because she's always had, like, a bit
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: of a presence. I thought I would, like, give you
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: guys a throwback.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: But, yeah. Any thoughts on.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: That?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He was in The Three Musketeers. He played
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: the Cardinal. That's a good one. Good movie, too.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Anybody want to say anything about Dolly Parton? Or do
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: you want me to do the third one and then
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: you guys say stuff?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Mike, did you want to wait for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: the third one?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Dolly Parton is often considered the last universally loved
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: woman in America. And I agreed until I found out
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: that she publicized... She funded Moderna.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: And now I'm wondering how ironic it is that what
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: did she die from again? Cancer.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Could have been terminal cancer.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know. With her, she probably was taken in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: and thought she was doing the right thing for people.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: That would have all been before the dishonesty, you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: the public dishonesty from the company and the, you must
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: get the jab and all that. But thing is, she
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: also faced backlash for not being politically correct.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: It's funny that all of the people that we're talking about,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: they didn't really, they weren't vocal about, Like they weren't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: like virtue signaling types. Not even Dolly Parton who probably
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: had the largest platform to be that way.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: She had, she definitely had the largest platform. Um, and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: she didn't use it that way. And she didn't, she
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: also didn't back down when people tried to make her
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: use it that way. Um, she had her, her, uh,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: her amusement park, I guess, never been to Dollywood. So
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know what all is there, but I do
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: know there was a controversy, uh, Yes, yes, she does
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: have huge tracts of land.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: And she wasn't all squeamish about it either. She often
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: joked about it. She was very comfortable with people talking
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: about her magnificent prow. Right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: No, there was a controversy about some thing she does
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: in her dinner theater where it's a fight between the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: North and the South and sometimes the South wins. I
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: guess this is very upsetting to some people, the idea
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: that the South might win ever. And people might root
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: for the South and everything, but it, it did not
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: face her and it did not stick because there's no
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: malice in it. She wasn't doing it to say, you know,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: anything political and it, To my knowledge, it didn't change either.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: She didn't back down and say, okay, we're always going
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: to make the North Wind. From now on, she just
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: kind of ignored it. It's like, whatever, you know, this
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: is all in fun. I'm not going to fight with you.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: And I think that was one of the coolest things
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: about her. She just went ahead and did what she
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: was going to do. And she didn't allow a big
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: brouhaha to come out of it. And you don't see
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: very many women who pass automatically. on a chance for drama.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: And this could have been some major drama. But she did.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: She passed on the opportunity to have drama.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Which I think is pretty cool.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: Also, a lot of people remember her for 9 to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: 5 but you should remember her for the best little
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: whorehouse in Texas. Should have better outfit.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I bet.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, I got a super chat from Xeranks and we'll
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: do the third one. And then, um, you guys can
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: comment on all of them. Uh, he gives $ 5 and says,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: my earliest memory of Dolly Parton was her duet with
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers on islands in the stream. As a kid,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was originally a BG song. I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: don't know that song.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I'd have to hear it. Like I've heard some BG stuff,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Would sing it, but it's a little too high for me.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's okay. It's okay.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: And we'll look it up in the patron show and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: give it a little listen. Um, maybe we won't get
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: dinged for that.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: I don't really know.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: So it's a very pleasant sounding song, which is another
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: reason for me to not butcher it.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. Uh, Yeah. Okay. So that's Dolly Parton, uh, RIP.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: She's, uh, definitely a, a woman that, yeah, like Mike
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: said is, was like, nobody just disliked her, you know?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: So it's almost like this kind of stuff should be
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: bringing people together that they, cause like, who doesn't like
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Tim Curry? Who doesn't like Dolly Parton and who doesn't
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: like Peter Cullen? Um, who is Peter Cullen? Peter Cullen
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: was a Canadian voice actor. Forever associated with the authoritative
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: baritone of Optimus Prime in The Transformers.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: And the melancholy Aior in Disney's Winnie the Pooh projects.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Freedom doesn't exist.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: The sentient being.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: You can say that if you're Optimus Prime. What are
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: you going to do? Oh, no.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: You can say it if you're Aior. Aior was my boy.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: He was my black pill boy before black pills were
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: a thing.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: He died peacefully at his home in Los Angeles on
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: August 26, 2026 at the age of 85. He originated
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: the Autobot leader's voice in the 1980s animated series and
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: continued it through live action films into the 2020s, while
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: also contributing memorable vocal performances in works ranging from Predator
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: to countless cartoons. His family asked fans to honor his
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: legacy of compassion and integrity Recalling his guiding principle.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Be strong enough to be gentle. That's like one of his,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: I guess, one of his personal quotes that he likes
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, these four are just scratching the surface.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: He's done so much voice work.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: You'd be surprised where you will hear him. So anyway,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: those are the three people. And again.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: None of them were, as far as I know, they
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: weren't political people. They just had a good time. They
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: loved their fans. You know, and, you know, if you're
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: voicing Optimus Prime, you got a lot of male fans. So,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: you know, that was like every kid's hero. You know
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: what's really interesting too? Peter Cullen dies in 2026. Optimus
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Prime died in 1986 in the Transformers movie. Which took
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: place in 2006.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Weird, isn't it?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Just something to share that I thought was in. Because
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: to the kids of my generation, Optimus Prime died in 1986.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: And the voice actor for him passed away in 2026.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Michael Bay resurrected all of these people.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, the only thing about those movies that was worth
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: anything was the fact that Peter Cullen reprised his role
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: as Prime to.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Do the voice.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: But I refused to watch those movies. Yes, he did
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the voice of Prime in the Michael Bay movies. Yes. Yeah,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: that soundbite is from the movies.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: But it's the only thing about those movies that I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: would care to acknowledge. Because it's still... Because if you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: didn't get... The thing is, if you didn't get Peter
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Cullen to voice... Optimus Prime you couldn't make a Transformers
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: movie you can't like you like they already lost the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: guy who did Starscream's voice that guy died like a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: while ago and that voice was so unique nobody sounded
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: like he was also Cobra Commander same voice and the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Megatron guy I don't think that guy's alive either so
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: all that's left is that was left is the Optimus
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Prime guy and yeah so and like some of the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: other ones like Soundwave was like put through so many
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: filters it could have been anybody but still sounds super
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: cool when you're a kid, like 11 years old, that
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: shit's awesome.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Anyway. Um, yeah, it was, uh, I think, I don't know.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I think voice work is really cool and I actually
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: always wanted to do it.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Uh, and so like, I'm, you know, I guess I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: feel lucky to have been alive for all three of
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: these people.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: So, Yeah, he voiced Dr.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Prime in those video games too, the War of Cybertron
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: and Fall of Cybertron. I have, well, I have the
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: first one. So I've been thinking about playing that one again. Anyway, yeah,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: so I give the floor to you guys to say whatever.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: You want to say. Welcome to the latest edition of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: the Death of the Boomers, ladies and gentlemen. This is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: going to run and run for several decades. And because
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: all three of these folks are pretty cool people, I
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: want to examine quotes from all three of them. But
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: it might be a bit boring if I just read
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: out three sets of quotes. So I thought, let's play
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: a game. I want to play a game. It's not
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: going to involve sawing people's body parts. I'm just going
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: to read a quote and see if you can guess
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: if it was said by Dolly Parton or Tim Curry.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Or Peter Cullen. Are you ready? All right. It costs
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of money to look this cheap.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: You go first, Hannah.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, you are the one guessing.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: That was Dolly Parton.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Of course it was Dolly Parton.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I was going to say Dolly Parton, too. I'll let
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Hannah go first.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I thought I'd start you off with an easy one.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: That was an easy one.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: I heard her say that in the late 90s, and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: I thought, that's brilliant. All right. Quote, the way I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: see it, if you want the rainbow, you've got to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: put up with the rain.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: The way I see it suggests Tim Curry to me.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Anna?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going to agree. I think that was where my
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: head went first, too.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: That was Dolly Parton.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's Dolly Parton. Okay.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Alright.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Quote, don't dream it, be it. End quote.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: That could have come from any one of them, really.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That sounds a bit like a.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm gonna just go out on a
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: limb and say Tim Curry again. But I'm guessing.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: My gut wants to say Dolly Parton because it sounds
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: like some womanly thing to say, but That's probably a
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: bit uncharitable.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard for me to pick between the two, honestly.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: But I'm wondering if you're just doing all of one
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: star and then all of the next now.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to make a fun sort of... No, no,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: that's fun.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I'm going to stick with my answer,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Tim Curry.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: It is Tim Curry.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: That sounded like it could have been something he said. Again,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: like Mike said, we didn't know. I don't think we
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: knew anything about his personal life and that's fine by me.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I just like to think of people as actors.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: They say never meet your heroes.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: He does seem like the kind of guy that if
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: he decided he wanted to do something, wanted to experience something,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: that he would just pursue it, make it happen.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Alright, next one. My great hero is Billie Holiday and
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: I've always wanted to to do an album of standards
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: with a piano-led quartet. Dolly Parton.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: It's music, but maybe I'm wrong. All the answers are C.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I might go with Dolly Parton on that one, too.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: That was Tim Curry.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: Oh!
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has done music.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I know he's done music. I just know it's not
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: Peter Cullen.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I'm fucking with you now. You are.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: You got us. You got me.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to drive you one way or another. My
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: brother was a captain in the Marine Corps and a
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: very big hero in my life.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: In the Marine Corps.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: In the Marine Corps. Well....
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: Peter Cullen is Canadian. So.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe not him. They have Marines in Canada. Or he
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: immigrated to the States and his brother joined the Corps then.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with... um, Dolly Parton. Did
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: she have any brothers? You know, I didn't even look
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: it up. I didn't look it up.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I never really, I don't remember her talking
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: that much about her family, but I didn't watch a
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: lot of her interviews. I only saw a couple and
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: I don't remember her talking about her brother, but it's
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: very possible. It does seem like something Dolly would say.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm going to go with... Are you
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Googling things, Brian? No, I'm not Googling things.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay with Dolly Parton, but I'm looking
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: at the chat and they're giving guesses. Yep.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Zeranks is suggesting that his brother is where he got
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Optimus' voice. So he's guessing Peter Cullen.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I think Optimus Prime's head design is kind of based
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: on a trucker. Because if you never noticed, he has
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: a visor on his head like it's a hat.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: But, anyway. Like a cross between a trucker and a knight.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Canada does not have a dedicated Marine Corps.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: No, but that doesn't mean that... I looked that up. Yeah. Alright,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay with Dolly Parton. I'm probably wrong, though.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: It was Peter Cullen.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: That was Peter Cullen.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: So he must have been, his brother must have been... I.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Guess they have a Marine Corps in Canada as well.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: No, they don't have a dedicated Marine Corps. Because I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: did look that up.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: No, they don't, but it's possible that Cullen was born
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: in Canada, but then became a citizen of the United States. Ironically,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: Optimus Prime is associated with the.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Like an American icon, but the guy who voices him
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: isn't American.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: So....
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: Alright, next one. I remember candy rationing until I was
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: like seven.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Candy rationing?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been World War II because there
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: was a sugar shortage.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: They're all boomers.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Don't forget. They are all boomers. They're about the same age.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cullen died only five years after the other two, so...
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: He was five years older is what I mean.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: Any guesses?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Cullen again because it sounds
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: like something that, you know, like, yeah, I'm going to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: go with that.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: How old was he when he moved to the United States?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: That's the question because, like, if he was young enough, yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Well, 85 when he passed. Let's see, 2026, 2016.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably the most likely then.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: 96, 86. So 40 years.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: So he was like 45 when he voiced Optimus Prime
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: in the Transformers the movie in 1986. So he was
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: already living in the States long enough to have done
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: that show for probably a decade. So he was probably
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: in the States at least when he was 30.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I was going to say his voice acting career
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: goes way back, but the cartoon part of it goes.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: Back to like 1979. Yeah, he also did Eeyore. So
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: how old is Winnie the Pooh? Was he always Winnie
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: the Pooh or was.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: That later on?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: Winnie the Pooh's been around for a while.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's old.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: But it looks like his... Just looking at his IMDb...
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: You're cheating, Hannah. I wanted to see if there was
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: anything before the stuff I remembered. He did some things
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: that were not cartoons.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Sure. He did trailers, too.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, but I mean, he was like an announcer
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: on this Mother's Brothers comedy show. And also did some
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: stuff on the Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour. I believe
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: those were both not very... Well, one was more long-lived
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: than the other. The Smothers Brothers went 32 episodes. He
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: was in 12 episodes of the Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: But that was the 70s. That wasn't the 60s. But
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: he goes back to 1964. in an episode of something
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: called Shoestring Theater, which I had not heard of before,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: and now I've got to find it. But he would
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: have been an adult for all of that. So if
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: he immigrated, I don't know if there was a sugar
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: shortage in Canada or not. That would have been what
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: his childhood would have been. So I'm not sure, but
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: all three of them would have been around long enough
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: to experience that if there was one in canada it'd
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: be most likely then it would be his quote.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right well i made my guess mike.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: We're not counting points by the way none of this
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: matters no i know yeah it.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Was it was tim curry It was, oh, what? The
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: candy rationing?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: If I had guessed, I would have been wrong.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: That's why I included it, because he wouldn't have called
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: it candy.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: Because I wasn't going to guess him.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: He would have called it sweets, but evidently he did
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: call it candy. Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: Well, they rationed, if I remember right, they rationed sugar,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: and they also rationed chocolate.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: There were a lot of things that were rational.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: There was a part of me that thought that sounded
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: like some British thing to do, but.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Alright, what's next, Mike?
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: I'm good at my own company. Good at my own company.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: This is a difficult one, because it could have been
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: any of the three.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really tough one.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: This one, I'm suspecting that it's Peter Cullen. Just because
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: of the level of creativity that goes into specializing in
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: just voice. where you almost have to be able to
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: make up your own stories and do your own thing,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: entertain yourself, and be in your head a lot.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: But I could be wrong.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: What's the line again? With my own company?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: My own company?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, uh.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: It feels like a bad one because any three of
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: them could have said it.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm just going to guess.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: I found this particular person saying this quote on one
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: of those quote websites.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, right, right, right. Sure. I'm going to go
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: with– I'm going to go with– I'll say Dolly Parton.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: It was Tim Curry.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I was so thinking about picking that one.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I hope someone's keeping score. I can't be bothered.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't keep score either.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: I think I've been wrong.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: On all but one of them.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: I got one. I got one.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: Well, the easy one I got.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got more than me.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: You got two because you were right at least one
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: more time than I was.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: All right. The next one's a good one. I've never
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: been a feminist.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: No, that might've been Dolly.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't think a man, first of all,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think a man would just come out and
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: say that, but I also don't think a man would
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: say they're not.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: It's like men.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: When you put the camp, when the microphone is on them,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: they're less likely to say I'm not a feminist.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: Um, somebody brought it up to her. That's, that's why
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: she talked about it.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: But, people thought for a long time that she was
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: one because of the movie nine to five. Yeah. And, uh, that's,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: that's not why she made that movie.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: She made that movie cause it was funny.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: No, for sure. I mean, I'm sure it was. All right, Mike.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: The next one.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: Quote. I enjoy dramatic narration, of course, because I'm an
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: actor and I started out as an actor. But I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: love things that are a challenge, and I look forward
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: to more work with that in the future. So there's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: always a sun coming up the following day for me.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's... I'm going to say Peter Cullen on that one.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: It sounds like someone... It could also be Tim Curry.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Tim Curry. I feel like I'm not getting the Tim Currys. Like,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know him.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Both of them are actors and one of them is
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: a singer, so it's a bit easy.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Well, no, but the thing is, Tim Curry also sings,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: because that was the one I missed.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, he's sort of a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: triple threat. He does the dancing and the singing and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: the shaking of the tuchus.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: He's got a nice thing.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: He's not so bad with the singing and the playing
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: and the shaking of the tuchus.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: That's so.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I'm.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Going to go with Cullen.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with Cullen. That's my guess.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: That was Peter Cullen.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah. There we go. Just seems like somebody who's professional.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Because he doesn't get the same kind of... It's like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: the Hollywood machine doesn't eat him the same way because
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: he's just the voice guy. And I mean, people can
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: be resistant to it, but there's definitely... culture of celebrity
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: that can consume people and I think in the case
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: of these three they're not so but I think it's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: a he's probably a little bit more work focused or
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: was so anyway what's next.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Right my interests and obsessions have always been so wide
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: ranging that I keep popping my head out of different
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: boxes as much as possible.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Tim Curry. That's that's Tim Curry.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like a Tim Curry thing, although I
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: will say they all it was kind of true about
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: all of them.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: It is Tim Curry. All right. Yeah.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: That sounds like exact cause he, he like, I mean,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: he's played so many different characters. That's, that's what I,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like you do, you're in a Muppet movie
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: and then you're in legend and then you're a transsexual
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: transvestite from Transylvania. And then you're like a demon that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: eats kids and you're like enjoying all of those. Like
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: he always like, looks like he's having the best time too.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I figured that was an easy one.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: All right. Next one. Storms make trees take deeper roots.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: See, now that sounds like something Dolly Parton would say.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: Like an idiom? Yeah.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: That does sound like a southern thing, too.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Because she is from the Appalachia now, and she's from there.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: People straight up talk like that, you know?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Like they'll say.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: these weird like idioms, like more nervous than a long
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs, you know?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: So, I'm going to go with Dolly Parton too. I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: could be wrong.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Are you going to go with?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I said originally.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: You are both correct.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Yay!
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: People are always asking me in interviews, What do you
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: think of foreign affairs? I just say, I've had a few.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: That's Tim Curry.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Is that a Tim Curry?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: That's Tim Curry.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say Dolly Parton. That seems like something
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: she would say. She was very, like, tongue-in-cheek with her sexuality.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: Or tongue-in-cheek.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was, like, fine with people, like, making sexual
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: jokes and stuff.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: So I think she told them to.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: It was Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: I feel that sin and evil are the negative part
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: of you. And I think it's like a battery. You've
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: got to have the negative and the positive in order
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: to be a complete person.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say Tim Curry on that.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. I'm just saying it because it
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: sounds like something he would say.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: It's kind of fitting just based on the range of
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: characters that he played.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: It was Dolly Parton. It was Dolly Parton. Oh, okay.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: What was it? Wait. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, that's okay. Interesting. Alright,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: what's next?
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: This is fun. I find there is something very intimate
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  Speaker 3: about being the voice in someone's ear when they're driving.
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  Speaker 4: Peter cullen you know uh tim tim curry did do
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  Speaker 4: audiobooks i'm sure he.
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  Speaker 2: Did i'm sure he did it could it could have
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  Speaker 2: been tim curry too quite a.
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  Speaker 4: Few audiobooks but uh dolly parton had a lot of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: music on the radio.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that's true too could be dolly parton could be
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: any of them listen to the radio when they're driving.
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  Speaker 4: An older quote is probably Dolly Parton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was Tim Curry.
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  Speaker 2: It was Tim Curry?
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: My first guess wouldn't have been right if I'd have
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: stuck with it.
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  Speaker 3: Alright, that'll do. I couldn't find many quotes from Peter
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Cullen unless there was only two because he doesn't tend
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: to talk much.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Unless you started saying something like Autobots roll out.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Or Voltron, Defender of the Universe.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: He's like, when I played Optimus Prime.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: In a world!
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was trying to avoid all those things. Yeah,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: that's obviously not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: In summary, it's great when good people die. I should
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: perhaps rephrase that. It's great when entertainers live. Because they
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: live to entertain. And it's so great when they... die
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: because we get.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: To celebrate how much they've entertained us. They died of
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: natural causes and we're left to tentatively assume that they
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: did die from natural causes.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the epic tale of the death of the boomers.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: We're assuming that they're dying of natural causes at this point.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: It depends exactly when they got the strokes and the
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: turbo cancers. Maybe it's best not to dwell. Maybe now
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: is not the time to dwell. We'll get back to
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: you lifetimes from now when it turns out a disproportionate
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: amount of the boomers may in fact have quote unquote
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: died suddenly. Who knows? Who knows or dares to comprehend?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Rest in peace as best you can. Call your parents,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. Hug them as best you can. If
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: you still can. You never know what's going to happen
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: or when. Be with your loved ones.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not a real doctor. None of this is medical advice.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, that's all the stories.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: So we're going to go into the patron show and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: we're going to watch Hasan Piker get absolutely aura-mogged by
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: a random hairstylist.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: And then....
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: You still have one at the bottom here.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was, okay, the Lindsay Clancy thing. The only,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to see if there were any, like, new, new,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: new developments. There is nothing. The last thing we heard.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Was that the murder trial, like, so they're in deliberation.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: They've been in deliberation for days now. If you guys
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's like nine women and, like,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: three men. in the jury and the nine women are
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: probably creating a problem for this whole thing being settled.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: So, um, they've been deadlocked.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: After four days of deliberations and were ordered by the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: judge to keep trying. Clancy admits strangling her three young
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: children with exercise bands in January, 2023 before a suicide
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: attempt that left her paralyzed. But her defense argues she
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: was not criminally responsible due to postpartum psychosis. While prosecutors
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: say she acted with intent and planning, uh, leaving the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: jury to choose among first-degree murder, second-degree murder, manslaughter, or
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: a not-responsible finding that would send her into a psychiatric
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: hospital rather than prison.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: And they have been deliberating for four days.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: And the judge has basically demanded that they get it done.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: There are three things we know. One of them is
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: that they actually came out and told the judge that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: they couldn't agree, and that's why the judge sent them
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: back in to keep trying. The other two things are, one,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: two of the women showed up in pink today. And
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: they did see the protesters outside. We don't know if
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: they looked things up online, were exposed to any media
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: or anything like that. But between those two things, they're
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: at least aware of the protest. And like I said,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: two of the jurors. And it could be coincidental. It
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: could be that they just, you know, pick pink without
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: thinking about it. Um, but it, I don't, I'm.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Getting flashes of like the OJ Simpson trial and the
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Derek Chauvin trial too, where there were activists, like it
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: was impossible, impossible to like unplug yourself from the media.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: It just, it doesn't look good. Um, so those, those
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: two issues and, and the fact that they, um, they
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: tried to declare themselves a hung jury and the judge said, no,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: like I said, it really doesn't look good. And, uh,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: probably what we're going to see is that ultimately they'll
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: end up either convicting her on a lesser charge, uh,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: or whatever the thing is. They gave, they gave them
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: like five different choices of what they can, they can
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: find her guilty of instead of, um, guilty or innocent,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: guilty or not guilty. And of all of those, only
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: one of them is not guilty by reason of temporary
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: insanity or whatever it is. But yeah, it just, it's
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: not surprising, but things don't have to be surprising to
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: be disappointing.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: I really am deeply disappointed in, you know, I like,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: like I said, I had some hope for at least
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: part of the female population before this case. And it
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: killed it. There aren't very many women out there that
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: I think can be salvaged. There are a few. I've
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: watched some women on X. stand up to the ridiculousness
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: with this case and say, no, this is a cold-blooded killer.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: She doesn't even have postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis. There
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: was no diagnosis, and the evidence points to no. So
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: there were some women out there that were sensible about this, right?
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: But the vast overwhelming majority, like I said, I, I
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: have lost a lot of hope because of this case.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I, I'm not expecting, I'm not, I'm, I'm
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: going to be completely unshocked if she firstly gets a
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: lighter sentence or even gets acquitted.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: I'm, It all depends on how long the men hold
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: A part of me wants her to get acquitted because
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: I want people to see. I want them to be
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: extremely red-pilled by this. And men are getting red-pilled by this.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: And a lot of other guys like Nick Freitas are warning.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, women, do you guys know
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: how bad you're going to look? And I'm like, yeah, well,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: you know what? Maybe it's time. Maybe this is what
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: has to happen. Like I said years ago, there has
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: to be more suffering before there's change. And so, like,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: if this is, like, the suffering that's necessary, at least
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: the collateral damage isn't that bad.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: But I'm kind of, like, hoping that she gets let
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: off because I want people to be like, what the
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: heck is this?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Something is really wrong. We have to change it. That's
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: the only way.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: The people that are saying these women definitely looked at
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: social media, I want to remind you, because this was
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: televised or, you know, put out there. It was on YouTube.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: It was everywhere. The women who formed opinions on social
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: media about this case, a huge number of them saw
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: exactly the same evidence that the jury saw. And they
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: didn't form those opinions because other women were doing it.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 4: They formed those opinions because they are biased against men
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: and toward women.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: And against their own children, too.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: And against their own children. So, before you... suspect that
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: the jurors were on social media and that that's going
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: to affect the outcome of the case, that it's like
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: if they find in her favor, give her the most
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: favorable ruling they can, that it's because of social media
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: and the judge can turn around and do something about it,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: declare that it was mistrial because the jury was tainted.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: just understand women saw all of the same evidence they
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: did and independently in their own heads made up stupid
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: shit about the husband demonized him harassed and stalked him
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: and at least one woman stalked and harassed his family
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: and his business as a result of their takes on
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: this case so all they really need to do is
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: have a couple out of 12 of the people on
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: the jury be that kind of woman. And the jury
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: is basically fucked. They don't have to have had any
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: exposure to social media to be fucked in the head
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: about this. They just have to be female.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Yep. Well, I guess we'll find out. But yeah, right
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: now it's still in deliberation.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: The fact that it's taking this long to even come
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: to a conclusion is already red-pilling a lot of men.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: The fact that it wasn't just open-shut, considering all parties
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: have confessed to everything, no one is inconsistent, and the
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: only defense that even lingers is the you know, the, uh, temporary,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: the insanity, whatever, but I don't think that.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: That's wrong either.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: I totally had this, this, uh, illness that is temporary
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: that my, none of my, uh, many, many psychiatric caregivers
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: diagnosed me with. And everybody that saw me at that
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: time says I didn't have it, but they were all wrong.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: That's the defense.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 8: Basically all of these doctors that actually treated the patient,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: all of these nurses were all of these professionals, psychologists, uh,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 8: therapists and so on, they're all wrong.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: And she knows better than they did. Yeah.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: That was Hannah.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: That was her entire fucking defense.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But the Hannah, she's a Leo. Anyway, we got
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: to go to the patron show.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: So, uh, let, like, let us know what you guys
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: think about all of this in the comments. Um, And
• 1:43:20
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• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just got a superchild from Meredith G at
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: the last second. I'll go ahead and read that.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: She gives us five and says, They were literally like
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: women on TikTok saying, Let's not think about her children
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: as living people for a second.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Let's think of them as vases.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, they've completely, like, ignored the children because that
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: would not be good for the defense. But anyway, thank you, Meredith,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: for that, like, last minute under the wire super chow.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: And by the way, if anybody in our listening audience
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: does think of kids that way, don't think of these
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: kids as people, blah, blah, blah, don't have kids.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: Because thinking of them as people, little developing people, is
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: one of the things that makes parenting so much fun.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: So you won't like it if you don't want to
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: think of them as people.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, for coming on this episode of HPR News.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: And we will see you next Tuesday.