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Full Show Podcast: 22 October 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store us dogs.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six after five. It
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  Speaker 2: is Tuesday. Great to have your company. The three strikes
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  Speaker 2: laws getting an update. It'll catch more crooks apparently. We'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you about that. Plus Ihumacho half a million dollars
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  Speaker 2: on a committee going nowhere. The Australia correspondent Donna Tomoro's
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  Speaker 2: with us. That senator who had a hissy fit at
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  Speaker 2: Charles yesterday. What's to fall out? Plus construction on the
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  Speaker 2: first Road of Netwell. The first new road of national
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  Speaker 2: significance is underway. Will tell you where and how quickly
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  Speaker 2: they'll get it done. Seven after five.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty second of October. The fighting continues.
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  Speaker 2: Israel issuing evacuation orders for twenty two regions in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 4: Targets of these attacks for branches of the Akad al
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  Speaker 4: Hassan Association, a financial association, and this institution has been
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  Speaker 4: under US sanction since two thousand and seven. It has
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  Speaker 4: been accused by American officials of being a kova for.
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  Speaker 2: Hasboala, the idea of saying around sixty projectiles have entered
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  Speaker 2: Israel from Lebanon. That's just in the last day. Hamas
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  Speaker 2: is set to elect a new leader in March following
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  Speaker 2: the death of Yaya Sinwa. Until then, it'll be run
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  Speaker 2: by a five member committee. Even once they do decide
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  Speaker 2: who will be the new leader of Hamas, they won't
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  Speaker 2: tell you. Widespread power outages and parts of Cuba have
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  Speaker 2: entered their fourth day, prompting protests in the streets. Without electricity,
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  Speaker 2: we have nothing.
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  Speaker 5: We don't have food, we don't have a way to work.
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  Speaker 2: There's there a tropical storm coming to which they're worried about.
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  Speaker 2: Boeing shares have risen. This as the first good bit
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  Speaker 2: of Boeing news I think we've had since I've been here.
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  Speaker 2: Boeing shares a prison and it's not even that good.
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  Speaker 2: Risen four percent following a new contract strike workers are
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  Speaker 2: set to vote on so they haven't actually voted on
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  Speaker 2: it yet. Nothing has been signed, but the market's obviously
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  Speaker 2: anticipating something will happen. It contains a thirty five percent
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  Speaker 2: pay increase over four years and an eleven thousand New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand dollar bonus and an enhanced retirement plan for those workers.
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  Speaker 2: They're about thirty three thousand of them. Eight after five.
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  Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.
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  Speaker 3: News Talk ZIB.
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  Speaker 6: Get a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Consultants, gravy train, you know the this is what the
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  Speaker 2: government said they would stop, put a halt to. We've
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  Speaker 2: got new numbers on that this morning. This is from
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  Speaker 2: the Herald Slash z B. Data released by the Public
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  Speaker 2: Service Commission shows spending has decreased, which is good. It's
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  Speaker 2: now down to nine hundred and forty million dollars in
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  Speaker 2: the year to July. And how does that compare to
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  Speaker 2: the year prior, Well it was one point twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars, so it is downslow, but still a whack
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  Speaker 2: of cash, isn't it Close to a billion dollars still
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  Speaker 2: being spent on consultants in the year. And if you
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  Speaker 2: look at the numbers of the public service, remember David
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  Speaker 2: Seymour said when we get in there, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: slash the public service by fifteen percent. By you know, thousands,
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  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people. If you actually look at
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  Speaker 2: the numbers the public servant, the full time equivalence is
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  Speaker 2: only down three point three percent since December twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: Three point three percent. It's about two thousand workers. There
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  Speaker 2: are seven thousand roles that have been cut, but many
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  Speaker 2: of them were vacant, so it is still a behemoth.
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  Speaker 2: About sixty three thousand public servants still working, are they
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  Speaker 2: working from home? Whatever? A ten minutes after five, I
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  Speaker 2: have to take you to the US because the whole
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  Speaker 2: campaign is just falling in well. I mean, it's always
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  Speaker 2: been a bit nuts, but it's that time of the
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  Speaker 2: campaign when the candidates are tired, they're nearing the end,
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  Speaker 2: the finish line is in sight, and they're just losing
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  Speaker 2: their minds, which Trump, you know, you could argue has
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  Speaker 2: done from day doc anyway. So here's the thing. He's
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  Speaker 2: narrowing the polls with Karmala Harris. He's in Pennsylvania with
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  Speaker 2: the swing state obviously. And the issue with Pennsylvania, this
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  Speaker 2: is why you're going to hear about it over the
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  Speaker 2: next twenty four hours, is that their voter registration closes
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  Speaker 2: in the next day, so you have to in order
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  Speaker 2: to register the vote. You have to do that in
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  Speaker 2: the next day. So everyone is there, you know, with
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  Speaker 2: all the man, every man and his dog kind of
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  Speaker 2: out in force. So here's what Trump has been saying
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  Speaker 2: about Karmala Harris in the last twenty four hours, basically
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  Speaker 2: that she's not good as vice president.
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  Speaker 7: So you have to tell Kamala Harris that you've had
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  Speaker 7: enough that you just can't take it anymore. We can't
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  Speaker 7: stand here, your shit vice president, the worst, the worst
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  Speaker 7: vice president.
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  Speaker 2: Kamala, You're fired.
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  Speaker 3: Get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 7: Your fired, Get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Fast forward to a different rally, and he's talking about
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  Speaker 2: Arnold Palmer, the golfer.
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  Speaker 7: This is a guy that was old man. This man
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  Speaker 7: was strong and tough, and I refused to say it,
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  Speaker 7: but when.
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  Speaker 2: He took showers with the other pros they.
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  Speaker 7: Came out of there they said, Oh my god, that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 7: I had to say it.
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  Speaker 6: I had to say.
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  Speaker 2: Arnold Palmer's daughter Peggy has said quote it was an
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  Speaker 2: unfortunate way to remember my father.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what, It's only going to get more fun,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. A couple of weeks left It's only going
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  Speaker 2: to get more interesting. Fifteen days to go. Nine nine
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  Speaker 2: two is the number to text. Coming up next. The
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  Speaker 2: Road of National Significance that is finally getting some attention,
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  Speaker 2: the attention it deserves. We're going to talk to the
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  Speaker 2: Employees and Manufacturers Association about that. Plus Ewanmato. Did you
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  Speaker 2: know we're spending half of it, have spent half a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars on a committee to try and sort it
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  Speaker 2: out going nowhere. We're going to talk about that at
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  Speaker 2: five twenty News Talks at Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Jesse The News you Need this morning and the in
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  Speaker 1: depth Analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and fIF City
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand's.
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  Speaker 3: Furniture Beds and a Plying Store News Talks.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be yesterday we were talking about Air India, just
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  Speaker 2: Air India and how many hoax bomb threats they have
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  Speaker 2: had come through. Now we've got stats on all the
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  Speaker 2: Indian carriers. I don't know why it's India, We don't
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  Speaker 2: No one actually really knows much about them at all.
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  Speaker 2: There's no source to these threats yet, there's no motive
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  Speaker 2: identified for these streets yet. But ninety hoax bomb threats
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  Speaker 2: have been made against Indian airlines in the past week,
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  Speaker 2: Just in the past week, on Saturday, there were thirty
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  Speaker 2: hoax threats reported just in the one day. And in
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand had a hoax did you see that on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend with a flight going that had to land
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  Speaker 2: in Sydney. So the regulations apparently force the airlines to
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  Speaker 2: act on every single threat. And I suppose you can
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  Speaker 2: understand that, can't you because you want you know, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you don't want to take any risks and
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what's true and what's a hoax or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But man, if the goal is panic and disruption, then
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  Speaker 2: mission accomplished.
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  Speaker 3: Ray and Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Quarter past five. Construction on the first road of national
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  Speaker 2: significance is underway. Ground has been broken on the Hawk's
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  Speaker 2: Bay Expressway, which is a twenty seven kilometer four lane
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  Speaker 2: highway set to carry around twenty nine thousand vehicles a day.
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  Speaker 2: It's hope starting work early, we'll get the job done sooner.
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  Speaker 2: Alan McDonald's with the Employees and Manufacturers Association Allan, Good morning, morning, Ran,
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you back on the show. This is
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  Speaker 2: quite an important route. Tell us who uses it? Why
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  Speaker 2: it's important in connecting to the port there.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think you've kind of nailed it just in
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  Speaker 8: the intro. Ryan. It's important because it does link up
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  Speaker 8: into the port and if you look at a number
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  Speaker 8: of the roads of national significance and the number of
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  Speaker 8: the ports and the fast track application process for consent,
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  Speaker 8: it's showing a bit of joined up thinking where we're
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  Speaker 8: improving access for freight and for people around the ports
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  Speaker 8: and those critical links into some of the more critical
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  Speaker 8: economic areas of the country's growth and infrastructure.
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  Speaker 2: They reckon starting early will help reduce the overall construction
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  Speaker 2: time and they should have it done twelve to fifteen
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  Speaker 2: months sooner than planned.
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  Speaker 8: Are you.
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  Speaker 2: Quietly confident?
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  Speaker 8: I think with all of these things that any big
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  Speaker 8: piece of infrastructure, the quicker you get it going, the
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  Speaker 8: less chance for big cost overruns. I think is probably
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  Speaker 8: the best way to put it, because they never get cheaper,
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  Speaker 8: so the longer you leave them, the more they cost.
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  Speaker 2: Is this something that you can say, this will reduce
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  Speaker 2: the cost of goods by x, Y and z, or
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  Speaker 2: this will increase efficiencies by x y Z, or is
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  Speaker 2: it more the more of the stuff that we do,
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  Speaker 2: the more attractive we are to businesses, The easier and
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  Speaker 2: cheaper things should get well.
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  Speaker 8: Look, there will be gains both ways. I mean there
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  Speaker 8: will be some travel time gains and things like that.
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  Speaker 8: There's only a thirdy case section of roads in twenty
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  Speaker 8: nine k's so you know those gains does there, but
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  Speaker 8: they're not huge in terms of efficiencies. But it's again,
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  Speaker 8: it's about linking in all the various regional parts. So
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  Speaker 8: if you look around that Roads of National Significance program,
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  Speaker 8: it's all designed to make connections between the economic hubs
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  Speaker 8: of the country better so that you can move stuff around,
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  Speaker 8: move freight between the ports, move freight through the courts,
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  Speaker 8: all of those good things. That just signal that we're
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  Speaker 8: making progress on some of our infrastructure and it will
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  Speaker 8: be easier and better to do business and love stuff around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, big job at here, isn't there?
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  Speaker 9: Alan?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that? Alan McDonald, the Employers and Manufacturers Association.
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  Speaker 2: It's just gone eighteen after five Humato and the steering
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  Speaker 2: committee that you didn't know about.
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  Speaker 1: Next, the first word on the News of the Day
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
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  Speaker 1: furniture beds and a playing store.
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  Speaker 2: News dogs after the News at five point thirty are
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  Speaker 2: Australia correspondent Donald to Mayo and then just before six
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  Speaker 2: we look at changes to the three strikes law that
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  Speaker 2: the government has brought and will announce this morning. Just
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  Speaker 2: after five o'clock, we will look at that just before six.
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  Speaker 2: It's now twenty one after five Ryan Bridge, the Maori
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  Speaker 2: Development Minister Tama Paultucker has warned the group, this is
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  Speaker 2: the group tasked with deciding the future of Ihumato, that
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  Speaker 2: they could be shown the door if they can't find
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  Speaker 2: a solution. The Crown bought Humato for thirty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty. You remember that this is to
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  Speaker 2: end the occupation over its commercial development. They wanted to
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  Speaker 2: build houses there. Since then, there's been a group, and
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  Speaker 2: you may not have known this, a group of Monofenua
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  Speaker 2: and Crown reps who have been tasked with forming a
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  Speaker 2: plan which must involve putting Malori harnsing on the disputed land.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't happened yet. Willie Jackson's ADM Minister, was a
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  Speaker 2: Minister in charge at the time the Crown bought the land.
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  Speaker 2: He's the current labor Malori Development spokespersonally. More than a
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  Speaker 2: good morning in Modina Modina. Right, Hey, good to have
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  Speaker 2: you on the show. So Tama Pawtuck has basically said,
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  Speaker 2: if you guys can't sort your out, then I might
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  Speaker 2: step in.
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  Speaker 8: Is that not fair enough?
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  Speaker 9: Well, it's been given five years, so the actual agreement
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  Speaker 9: was signed off in July twenty two. That's when we
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  Speaker 9: the Crown put our representatives on. So we've put two
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  Speaker 9: representatives on and they were given five years. And of
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  Speaker 9: course we want progress and all of that. But I mean,
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  Speaker 9: a deal is a deal, isn't it. You see this
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  Speaker 9: government into breaching that anything it seems with Copropa Mali.
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  Speaker 9: And yes we want things to happen, and of course
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  Speaker 9: we want housing there, particularly for comart. But it's just
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  Speaker 9: it's just the sort of weekly attack, isn't it all
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  Speaker 9: the Ford weekly or Ford might the attack on Maori.
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  Speaker 9: If it's not if it's not this, then it's a
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  Speaker 9: trial Maori. If it's not this, it's treaty legislation. If
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  Speaker 9: it's not this, marse.
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  Speaker 8: H.
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  Speaker 2: But how can you before how can you be four
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  Speaker 2: years on from the sale, you know, thirty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: in public money, have no houses, no plan and no
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  Speaker 2: idea of what's going on.
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  Speaker 9: Well, well, one, there is I think there is a plan.
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  Speaker 9: And two, well, people can't agree on some some things.
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  Speaker 9: But this this was a five year agreement with the people,
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  Speaker 9: so actually they speak very clear. We didn't sign off
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  Speaker 9: in terms of a deal until July twenty two, and
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  Speaker 9: the deal was a five year deal. So you know,
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  Speaker 9: just because you and Tama Portucker want things to happen tomorrow,
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  Speaker 9: it doesn't always happen that way. And I think there
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  Speaker 9: has to be some credibility shown and Marty has to
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  Speaker 9: be given the space to do the deal. That's the
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  Speaker 9: that's the reality. Now we can get all tough and say,
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  Speaker 9: oh you marry, he's got to get it together tomorrow.
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  Speaker 9: We all want housing, we all want the best for
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  Speaker 9: the community, but let's just let's just work this through it.
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  Speaker 9: But they get all they have to keep running the
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  Speaker 9: anti Marti line that this government keeps running. And that's
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  Speaker 9: what's incredibly disappointing. I live and not too far from
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  Speaker 9: Ihu Marto, and people are sick of it. You know,
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  Speaker 9: we came to a peaceful solution, but everyone will You
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  Speaker 9: will know.
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  Speaker 2: Then that the co marthaer who just want to live
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  Speaker 2: there in a nice house that's insulated and warm and dry,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and here we are.
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  Speaker 9: Nothing's hang on, hang on right the combr to the king. Okay,
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  Speaker 9: the King was facilitating this process on behalf of the
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  Speaker 9: local co mar to and on behalf of everyone. And
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  Speaker 9: of course that's what I want, and it's what the
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  Speaker 9: local co marters want. But give them the space in
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  Speaker 9: honor the agreement, That's all I'm saying. And if they don't,
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  Speaker 9: if they don't hit their deadline before the agreement finishes,
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  Speaker 9: then obviously you're into something else. But don't try cup
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  Speaker 9: things a quarter of the way through it. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: I know that's how you operate, Ryan, and you like
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  Speaker 9: ones he be. Come on, mate, give the marriage a
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  Speaker 9: fair crack. Hey, give us a bit of space, you know,
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  Speaker 9: deceive it opportunities I've got.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welly, thank thank you for coming on. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it. Have a good morning. Calder Williejckxon, who's the
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  Speaker 2: latter's nightly development spokesperson, twenty five after five News Talks
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  Speaker 2: he'd be.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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  Speaker 2: A B twenty seven After five News Talk said, be
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  Speaker 2: a three strikes update for you this morning. Nicole mcke's
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  Speaker 2: put out a statement. The government's basically lowering the threshold
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  Speaker 2: you have to meet in order to be hit with
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  Speaker 2: the new three strikes law. Originally, for the law to
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  Speaker 2: kick in, for you to get a strike, you had
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  Speaker 2: to commit a crime with a prison sentence of twenty
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  Speaker 2: four months or more, and it was the same for
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  Speaker 2: each of the three strikes strike one, two, and three.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's being lowered to just twelve months for the
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  Speaker 2: first offense, So basically more criminals will be captured by
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  Speaker 2: the first strike, and if they go on to commit
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  Speaker 2: more serious crimes, it could mean they're locked up for good,
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  Speaker 2: or there's an increase in their minimum sentence. It's taking
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  Speaker 2: away the power from the judges and the discretion that
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  Speaker 2: they have. They say the law doesn't work, this three
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  Speaker 2: strikes law, because we have had it before. It's not
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  Speaker 2: proven to reduce offending or reoffending. It's not right, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't rehabilitate criminals. And yet somehow I don't mind it.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't sort yourself out after warnings one and two,
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  Speaker 2: then why would you miraculously stop offending after the third warning?
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  Speaker 2: You probably would, so wouldn't we all be better off
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  Speaker 2: if that serious violent repeat offender was rather than living
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  Speaker 2: next door to you in jail, Rayan Bridge would have
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  Speaker 2: thought so. Twenty eight minutes after five, a quick update
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  Speaker 2: on what's happening with the North Korean troops who were
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  Speaker 2: going to be fighting alongside the Russians. So North Korean
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  Speaker 2: troops is about fifteen hundred of them, including special forces,
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  Speaker 2: fighting alongside Russia against Ukraine, now South Korea. Their spy
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  Speaker 2: agency has come out and said they have landed, they
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  Speaker 2: are over there, and they're obviously angry with Russia because
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  Speaker 2: they don't want Russia to be engaging with North Korea
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  Speaker 2: at all. And Putin and Kim have signed the security
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  Speaker 2: pack back in June. So here's the thing about it.
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  Speaker 2: The experts, military experts, army experts reckon, they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to be any good because when was the last time
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  Speaker 2: the North Korean troops were in combat. And what's more,
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  Speaker 2: if you actually think about it, Korean Russian language barrier
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  Speaker 2: huge problem on the battlefield. So the experts reckon they
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  Speaker 2: won't see the front line. There's fifteen hundred of them.
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  Speaker 2: He'll probably be on beefed up security guards in Russia.
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  Speaker 2: It is twenty nine minutes after five, News Talk said B.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
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  Speaker 1: furniture beds and a planet store.
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  Speaker 3: News Talk said B.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning New Zealand. Twenty four away from six, News
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  Speaker 2: Talk said B. We're going to get to a lawyer
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  Speaker 2: on the three strikes law changes. You would have heard
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  Speaker 2: about them, and the News just then announced this morning.
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean for those first strike offenders. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that just before six o'clock In Australia. A
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  Speaker 2: couple of things to tick off with our Australia correspondents.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: The big tax on big tech is making some of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: what we're making a bit of progress, a bit of headway.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: We'll find out more about that. Also this morning we've
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: been talking about Humato. This is the land. Remember that
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: the government purchased for thirty million dollars in twenty twenty
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: four years ago. This happened, Nothing has happened since. Nothing
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of substance has happened since. And we just had Willie
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Jackson on to defend the committee that they set up.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Did you know there was a committee set up? It's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: got some mon Offenera representatives, it's got Crown representatives. It's
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: so far cost apparently half a million dollars for this
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: steering committee and they've steered it nowhere. They are in
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: fact not in a grants on any way forward, which
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: is a great shame because there are some you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: particularly elderly members of that EWE who would like to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: live there, but there's no houses to do. So this
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: from Peter, Good morning, Ryan, Ehu Marto helps illustrate the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: futility of trying to run public affairs using divisive ethnic politics.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Nothing good ever comes of that. Policies that deliberately target
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: people based not on need but on skin color and
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the like always end up in the same way. That
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is failure. Thanks Peter. Twenty two away from six ray Bridge,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and we're going to our reporters around the country. Callum
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Proctors and Dnedan Callum, good morning morning, Ryan. Now year
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: two million dollars a year for a pair of long
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: term o target university birth cohort studies. That's right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 10: This is the Daneedan Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study in
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: the christ Church Health and Development Study under the One Umbrella.
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: Now they will receive this government funding of two million
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: dollars per year for the next seven years. The studies
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: have been following thousands of babies from birth over the
• 19:59
  Speaker 10: last half a century. It's data featuring as far as
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: a recent episode of The Kardashians, So it must be
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: worth it. Dunedin Study director Miaana Theodore says the fundings
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: for research which has proven benefits in New Zealand. She
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: says the data brings insights to health, the environment and
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: social issues.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It is always off quoted, isn't it? Do you know
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: anyone in it?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: My sister, isn't it?
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: There you go?
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: She was one of those nineteen seventy babies that have
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: been here followed since birth.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Fascinating, isn't it?
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: How's the weather today?
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: You scattered rain for Daneda, but clearing this morning to
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: fine breaks this afternoon, light wines and sixteen today.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Thanks carm Claire Sherwoods and christ Church this morning. Clear
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the death of real estate agent Young Faibao. The trial
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: now underway.
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: It sure is underway, Ryan, fifteen months after Yan Feibao
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: went missing while she was working as a real estate
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: agent in the christ Church suburb of Hornby. The opening
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: statements from the Crown and defense have now been heard
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: at the High Court. Chinese national Tin Jun Chao is
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: being tried for her. Yesterday we heard that he's accused
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: of stabbing her to death. Now the Crown says Boo
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: was helping this man to find a house when he
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: assaulted her as a hornby property which she had recommended.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: It is saying there is suggestion of a sexual motive
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: to that incident. However, Charles defense lawyer Josh McLeod has
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: described the crown evidence as muddy and says he will
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: take the next few weeks to erode the Crown's case.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: How's your weather today? Clear?
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: Cloudy, period's possible morning fog clouding over again this evening.
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: Northeasterlies from the afternoon at a hive of eighteen.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Brilliant, thank you Maxis and Wellington Hamax. This man has
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: fallen into a sewage tank.
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, pretty nasty business. Friday morning we received a tip
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: that a man had a bit of a nasty accident
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: in rural or Turkey. Thankfully he was unhurt because it
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: could have easily ended badly. As disgusting as it sounds,
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: he's spoken to our newsroom now Mark Humphrey. He was
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: working on an orchard when the lid of a tank
• 21:58
  Speaker 12: he was standing on collapse aps and he fell right in.
• 22:01
  Speaker 12: He managed to hang onto a shovel support himself with
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: his feet braced inside the tank at a certain angle
• 22:07
  Speaker 12: to keep his head above well certainly not water again.
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: He could have easily become fully submerged in the tank,
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: but he yelled for help. His dog started barking. Thankfully
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: help did come, and all in all he spent about
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: twenty minutes in this sewage tank. US what it was
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: like in their pretty s word, he said, basically, he's
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: got a bit of a cough now, a chest infection
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: which he reckons is due to the fumes from the waist.
• 22:31
  Speaker 12: He was hosed off by fire an emergency when he
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: came out. Incredibly, he fell in with his phone in
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: his pocket and it still goes. I'm not sure how
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: nage to clean it so thoroughly, but impressive for that
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: phone company.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks thangs, and I hope no one's eating breakfast yet.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's probably default, isn't it. That's the weather today next.
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: They should expect it from the Wellington Cross. Mostly fine
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: northerlyas nineteen in.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: The city brilliant, Thank you Neivas and Auckland. Hey Neva,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. Or Tomaki says, one person's come
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: off the roof. So is this another?
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, these little Well what's happened is that? Yeah, you're right,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: one person has come down. This is the Auckland Youth
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Justice Facility called Carterway Monarchy Facility in Witty. Now, this
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: all happened about six forty five last night. But one
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: has come down at twelve others remain.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: On the roof.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Obviously they're protesting. I don't know what about, but listen
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: to this. So a witness at the scene says that
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: the group was seen tearing off roofing, removing insulation, striking
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: the exterior of the building by kicking it. But of
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: course now they're asking for demands from the staff. We
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: want look, I'm not lying, five big max and make
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: them all large combos.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And we want them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Ciggies too, that's what they're asking for. And I don't know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: but I think I'll have to just double check. But
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I think they're playing cards up there on the roof.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: So this is all happening as we speak. But I
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: remember the last time there was that group that went
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: up there and they got cave.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And they got McDonald's and boot and booger key because we,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: oh I aid the receipts they spend.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: But I'm thinking of the twelve of them up there now.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Five big mechs make them all large combos.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You need more than that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: You won't be sharing up there.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: No, and do you know what I mean? At two
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: schools of thought? One don't feed them and they're get
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: hungry and come down.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: It's right you know them up there.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: For Auckland weather, it rains so much. I wish it
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: was thunder and lightning and all the rain in the world.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: With a No, it's not cloudy periods. It has been
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: quite warm. Nineteen they'll be basking in sunshine up there,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: little devils.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: It is seventeen away from six News Talk, sib still
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to come Donald tomorrow out of Australia and a Colninel
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: defense lawyer on the three strikes changes and now it'ced
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: just this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Morning international correspondence with ends and eye insurance Peace of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Fourteen away from six News Talk said be the protests
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: certainly got some reaction and some headlines didn't it. This
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: is the Australian Senator Lydia Thorpe reaction. Donna Demour Australia
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: corresponds with us done, a good morning. What has the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: reaction been?
• 25:15
  Speaker 13: Yes, were quite a hostile reception for the Royals in
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: Canberra and it was just a few meters away that
• 25:21
  Speaker 13: the Royal couple sat through this rather intense heckling from
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: the Independent Senator Lydia Thorpe.
• 25:28
  Speaker 14: The reaction, of course has been quite swift. We know
• 25:32
  Speaker 14: that the Australian MONARCHUS League wants her to step down immediately,
• 25:37
  Speaker 14: calling the protest a childish Then we heard from Australia's
• 25:44
  Speaker 14: first female Aboriginal senator nov Paris, and she's actually issued
• 25:50
  Speaker 14: what some people are saying is literally an apology to
• 25:54
  Speaker 14: the King, saying it was a rude outburst and a
• 25:57
  Speaker 14: disrespectful attempt to confront ran to the King. We know
• 26:01
  Speaker 14: that the senator was escorted out by security. There was
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: even an expleteve yelled out as in fact, as Camilla
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: and Charles sat there. There was no reaction from the Royals.
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: Mind you, the PM also was in the room and
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: his fiancee and Peter Dutton. Quite a selection of politicians
• 26:19
  Speaker 14: of course, but we've also heard from front benches from
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: both sides and they're saying it was just grand standing
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: and it actually just failed miserably.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of reaction coming from the UK as well,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and I'll get to some of that in a second,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but very quickly, Donna, there's a massive compensation bill coming
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: for Quantas.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: Huge.
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: Quantas is facing a well about one hundred million dollar
• 26:40
  Speaker 14: plus payout for illegal sackings.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: It's a hefty bill.
• 26:43
  Speaker 14: For unlawfully laying off staff during the pandemic and it
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: impacts about seventeen hundred workers that lost their job in
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: twenty twenty. Now they've got to get together, the lawyers
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: will get together and attend a mediation to determine that
• 26:55
  Speaker 14: final amount payout.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: All right, Donna, thank you very much for that. That's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Dona DeMay R, Australia correspondent with US. Has just gone
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from six o'clock, very quickly so. Kiir
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Starmer's coming to Samoa this week for Chogham, the Commonwealth
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Heads of Government meeting, and he's facing lots of questions.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: After that protest in Australia, people are saying, including some
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of his own MPs are saying you need to apologize
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: for the slave trade. This obviously affects more Caribbean countries
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Chogham countries, but also asked to apologize and pay reparations
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and compensation for Britain's role in the slave trade, and
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: this is what kir Starmer's presect has said. Reparations are
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: not on the agenda for the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And asked about an apology, the spokesperson said the position
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: on an apology remains the same. We won't be offering
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: an apology at Chogham in Samoa. It is eleven away from.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Six ran Bridge.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: The government's toughening the three Strikes Bill by lowering the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: qualifying sentence threshold. What does that mean. Well, initially it
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: was proposing the threshold you would have to reach in
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: order to be considered for your first strike a sentence
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: of twenty four months or more. They're lowering that down
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to twelve months, which means lesser crimes will get you
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: your first strike. You can then go on to get
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: your second and third, but would require a twenty four
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: month imprisonment minimum term in order to get your second
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and third strike. Roderic Mulgan is a criminal defense lawyer.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: He joins US Live this morning. Roderick, good morning, Welcome
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: to the show.
• 28:29
  Speaker 15: Good morning, Ryan, how.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Are you good?
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: Thank you?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Is this going to make much of a difference.
• 28:34
  Speaker 15: Well, yes, it'll catch more people in the net, which
• 28:37
  Speaker 15: is of course what they're intending. I think, of course,
• 28:39
  Speaker 15: need to point out that when you refer to those sentences,
• 28:42
  Speaker 15: you're referring to the maximum sentence available for the crime
• 28:44
  Speaker 15: on the statu you're not the actual sentence. Yes, that
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: the person might get. Yes, so you know you might
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: not get twenty four months in jail. But if that's
• 28:54
  Speaker 15: the sentence for that crime, then you've ticked the box.
• 28:56
  Speaker 15: You've got to strike.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What types of crimes would fall under the twelve months
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: as opposed to the twenty four wow.
• 29:03
  Speaker 15: All sorts of thefts and burgeries and assaults. It's it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: quite common that the sorts of crimes that come before
• 29:14
  Speaker 15: the courts I have those terms of imprisonments attached low
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: level in decent assaults, that sort of thing, certainly burgery,
• 29:26
  Speaker 15: certainly theft, So.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Burglary and theft could get you your first strike then,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: but then you would have to be really bad. To
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: get your second and third, you just had to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: bit with.
• 29:38
  Speaker 15: In fact, those crimes would qualify under the twenty four
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: month mark as well.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: True. So all in all, is this going to make
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: New Zealand safer?
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: When you see?
• 29:52
  Speaker 15: That's the big question, and that's what the politicians assert
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: that it will. It will certainly put people in jail
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: for longer that that's a good thing. It's an entirely
• 30:01
  Speaker 15: different question. The idea that you can keep society safe
• 30:05
  Speaker 15: by just locking people up for very long periods of
• 30:08
  Speaker 15: time and forgetting me you left? The key is that
• 30:12
  Speaker 15: old fashioned. It has perverse effects. So for instance, if
• 30:18
  Speaker 15: you're going up for a sentence and you agree to
• 30:22
  Speaker 15: things like undertaking rehabilitation, you get a discount, which is
• 30:26
  Speaker 15: a good thing. But if you have an automatic the
• 30:30
  Speaker 15: judge can't vary at rule that you must get the
• 30:33
  Speaker 15: maximum sentence, then you no longer engage in those sorts
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: of activities to get yourself at discount.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: But if you've done strike one, strike two, strike three,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, at some point isn't it more for us.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: More?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Aren't we the fools for believing it? You know that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: they'll change, or that they're remorseful when it's not at all.
• 30:55
  Speaker 15: Lots of people get strings of sentences over years, but
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: capable of changing, improving, having periods of time where they
• 31:03
  Speaker 15: don't offend. A finding is complicated. It's not just the
• 31:08
  Speaker 15: case of the bad people. People offend because they have
• 31:11
  Speaker 15: substance PEERCE issues, because they're low IQ, because they don't
• 31:14
  Speaker 15: have they're not embedded in family support networks, they lack
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: life skills. It's a complicated business and you can't just
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: say I will lock you up for longer and you'll
• 31:25
  Speaker 15: learn your lesson. And the other big problem is that
• 31:28
  Speaker 15: you get seriously disproportionate outcomes. And there was a famous
• 31:36
  Speaker 15: case that came out the last time. This is on
• 31:39
  Speaker 15: the statute books. Grammand, who had some mental health issues,
• 31:42
  Speaker 15: tried to kiss a woman on the street.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And it was completely overblowing, basically, wasn't it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: And that was indecent assault.
• 31:51
  Speaker 15: He got seven years because that was the third one.
• 31:54
  Speaker 15: That's the problem.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Roderick, thank you very much for your time. As always,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Roderic Mulgan, who is a criminal defense lawyer. It is
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: seven away from six on.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Ryan
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's furniture beds and a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: playing store.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Youth Talk said be five away from six News Talk
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: said be there's a group of youths who are hold
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: up on the top of a youth justice facility in
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Auckland this morning, demanding five Big Max combos be delivered
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to them. One of our listeners says, my solution for
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: those clowns hold up on the detention facility roof, send
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: one big Mac combo and televised the results way better
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: than celebrity Treasure Island. It has just gone five to six.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Mike saire, Hey, Mike, what do they want? Five big
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Mac combos?
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: The bigger picture? There must be something bigger than that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Well, there always is.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: I holistically speaking, what are they seeking in life?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Probably some respect?
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Really yeah, if they asked directly for that now.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: But that's usually what it comes down to, isn't that
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: they don't feel that they're being respected?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: So so how would that manifest itself.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: To you got a big Mac? Give me a big Mac.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Is there something wrong with this country? I mean yes,
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, there is something wrong with this There is something,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: but it's not worth dwelling on because it can become
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: quite depressing.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: That is true.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Do you I mean you must remember that. I distinctly
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: remember it. Ja Cinda Adern did it. It was an
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: intervention by her moments before she left for the Pacific, remember,
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: and I think it was Choggham that she was leaving for.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: And she she sent dispatched Willie down south to sort
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: them out. And you know, this was a housing crisis
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: and Fletchers were busy building houses to solve our problem.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: But no, we'll pay our thirty million dollars and will
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: and here we are all these years later and.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: What four years later?
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: And nothing years later and literally nothing's happened, and we're
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: still paying for this nonsense politics over substance. Anyway, we'll
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: talk to the Prime Minister about this.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Another matters Mike with the next Have a great day everyone,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.
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