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- 1:29Speaker 1: A social media influencer, was arrested for allegedly throwing the
- 1:33Speaker 1: tampon advouncers who are removing her from a club. Well,
- 1:37Speaker 1: at least we know why she was acting that way.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Home. I'm gonna go home.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Is there something wrong?
- 1:48Speaker 2: I just can't Allison, Uh, I'm live now and you
- 1:52Speaker 2: haven't figured out your audio? Well, let me just greet everybody.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Okay, I think you think I figured out what it is?
- 1:58Speaker 2: All right, so it button me then? No? No, okay,
- 2:03Speaker 2: all right, hello everybody, and welcome to Honeybadger Radio. My
- 2:06Speaker 2: name is Brian, and who Alison? And this is maintaining
- 2:09Speaker 2: frame number one fifteen. I don't know, maybe we should
- 2:12Speaker 2: like come up with a new and I hate coming
- 2:14Speaker 2: up with new things and changing shit, But maybe like
- 2:18Speaker 2: when we get requests from patrons, we can give that
- 2:21Speaker 2: its own because I don't know what. You can't maintain
- 2:24Speaker 2: a frame around something that is essentially a giant mutated
- 2:29Speaker 2: sunflower that has become a weed and is reaching into
- 2:33Speaker 2: every living thing and corrupting it at its core, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 2: and eating I don't know. Like you can't put a freight.
- 2:41Speaker 2: All you can do is put it down. All you
- 2:43Speaker 2: can do is get some round up and like end it.
- 2:46Speaker 3: But anyway a mental raids.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. You just have to, Yeah,
- 2:53Speaker 2: you just have to kill it. I mean I don't
- 2:55Speaker 2: in Minecraft, of course, but nonetheless.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Yeah, in the realm of the abstract, right.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, speaking of Minecraft, can I can I start
- 3:07Speaker 2: with something a little bit lighter before we get into
- 3:09Speaker 2: the dark abyssle Woods that is the mind of manifestel
- 3:16Speaker 2: Oh and let me go back though, So yeah, maybe
- 3:18Speaker 2: this should be a different series. Maybe this should be like,
- 3:21Speaker 2: you know, requests from the Sadist. I don't know, like
- 3:26Speaker 2: because that's I don't know what else to call it,
- 3:28Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's like, can you please respond
- 3:33Speaker 2: to this? And it's just like the crazy cat lady
- 3:36Speaker 2: from the Simpsons.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Like yeah, except she's given a platform and tons of
- 3:43Speaker 3: women listening.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's just laugh you know, and we're just like,
- 3:48Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to retort this somehow.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Okay, just just a heads up, now, the thing isn't
- 3:55Speaker 3: actually changing to me at all.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know why. Oh that's because these are
- 4:00Speaker 2: turned off.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, but I just think we lost
- 4:05Speaker 3: something when we stopped shaming women for being unable to
- 4:09Speaker 3: maintain a relationship with a man as like a marker
- 4:13Speaker 3: of adulthood, you know what I mean, Like we do
- 4:17Speaker 3: it for men and to a certain degree, like we've
- 4:20Speaker 3: always done it for men, and we still do it
- 4:22Speaker 3: for men. Now it just gets worse for men. So
- 4:24Speaker 3: instead of just being like a you know a little bit,
- 4:28Speaker 3: why don't you have a wife at the age of
- 4:30Speaker 3: like thirty kind of thing, and well, and then there
- 4:33Speaker 3: was also discrimination against bachelors and unemployment in the past,
- 4:37Speaker 3: but yo, we've kept that for men and it's made
- 4:40Speaker 3: it and we've got made it worse. So now men
- 4:42Speaker 3: are not just weird, potentially gay, potentially subject to chemical castration.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Now they are also considered to be terrorists put on
- 4:51Speaker 3: FBI watch lists if they can't maintain a relationship with women.
- 4:55Speaker 3: But for women, we celebrate it. We celebrate this isca failure.
- 5:01Speaker 3: It is a failure because we are a pair bonding species,
- 5:03Speaker 3: and you look at any other pair bonding species, the
- 5:06Speaker 3: wind condition for a pair bonding species is get this
- 5:09Speaker 3: pair bonding mind blown. And we don't do this, So
- 5:15Speaker 3: we don't. We don't shame women at all. We never
- 5:17Speaker 3: really shame women as much as we shame men for
- 5:20Speaker 3: not having a wife. But you know, we we've completely
- 5:24Speaker 3: removed it entirely, and instead we celebrate women for their singlehood,
- 5:29Speaker 3: despite the fact that statistically this is the worst position
- 5:32Speaker 3: for women to be in. But you know, go manifestel, Yeah,
- 5:38Speaker 3: we are.
- 5:39Speaker 2: We are essentially ensuring women's comfort to the destruction of
- 5:44Speaker 2: our entire civilization and we're still doing it themselves. Yeah,
- 5:48Speaker 2: but that includes them. When I say women in that, yeah,
- 5:55Speaker 2: they're part of it. And yeah, I mean that's just
- 5:58Speaker 2: that's where we are. Like I have I have a
- 6:00Speaker 2: lot of pity because I think that these these women,
- 6:03Speaker 2: especially these young women, they are so separated from their
- 6:07Speaker 2: own like from the consequences of their actions. Even now,
- 6:12Speaker 2: they're shielded from all of their dumb decisions, to the
- 6:15Speaker 2: point where when they can no longer be shielded, it's
- 6:19Speaker 2: like raising a child in a bubble, you know, because
- 6:22Speaker 2: you don't want them to catch any diseases. It's like
- 6:25Speaker 2: mister Burns, like, you know, where he's entrapped in his
- 6:28Speaker 2: home and he's like, there is still one more thing
- 6:31Speaker 2: Smith is microscopic germs, and he's like, you know, shielding
- 6:35Speaker 2: himself from everything. When something gets through, they're they're not
- 6:39Speaker 2: going to be able to deal with it. So but
- 6:42Speaker 2: and I and I do have a lot of pity
- 6:44Speaker 2: for those women, even women like Manifestel, because I know
- 6:47Speaker 2: that everything that she claims to want, that claims to
- 6:54Speaker 2: believe that women need are is only possible in this
- 6:59Speaker 2: in the comfort that she currently lives in where she's
- 7:03Speaker 2: looking for. It's like the Princess and the p And
- 7:06Speaker 2: what will happen is if she loses that. I don't
- 7:10Speaker 2: know what country she lives in. I'm gonna guess Canada, honestly,
- 7:14Speaker 2: but it could be the US if things completely collapse
- 7:18Speaker 2: to the point where she can no longer be shielded
- 7:21Speaker 2: from it, because it's not just like shielded from the
- 7:24Speaker 2: actual effects, but shielded from the knowledge that it's coming.
- 7:28Speaker 2: There are you know, men talking about like in the
- 7:32Speaker 2: space and a political space whatever, and women as well.
- 7:35Speaker 2: They're like, dude, if we don't change course, all these
- 7:38Speaker 2: bad things are going to happen. And women like her
- 7:41Speaker 2: are they have no idea. They're just like I got
- 7:43Speaker 2: the new iPhone, you know, like they're just carrying on
- 7:46Speaker 2: with the everyday materialist concerns that are very short term
- 7:51Speaker 2: that don't involve families. And when when it comes when
- 7:55Speaker 2: the the what's the word I'm looking for. I don't
- 7:59Speaker 2: want to say giving the Yeah, I guess when the
- 8:01Speaker 2: shit hits the fan. Yeah, I was gonna say, when
- 8:04Speaker 2: it comes time to pay the piper. That's what I
- 8:06Speaker 2: was going to get at. They're not going to be prepared,
- 8:10Speaker 2: and it's and it's kind of like the fault of
- 8:12Speaker 2: the people around them for not preparing them. It's like,
- 8:15Speaker 2: how do you get you know, horrible Olympic breakdancing, Well,
- 8:21Speaker 2: you don't tell women the truth. That's how you get
- 8:24Speaker 2: terrible ygun breakdancing at the Olympics. That's because you didn't.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Nobody was honest with her. And now she has to
- 8:33Speaker 2: like cope her way into a new reality where this
- 8:35Speaker 2: is okay because she at least got to make a statement.
- 8:38Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, it's it's it's a shame because
- 8:42Speaker 2: I think I'm trying to go deeper. I'm trying not
- 8:44Speaker 2: to just respond to Manifestel's claims because they're so divorced
- 8:49Speaker 2: from reality. I wouldn't know where to start. So instead
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'm just like, I pity you because you are concerned
- 8:55Speaker 2: about things that are so fragile. We're not going to
- 9:00Speaker 2: have them at the rate that we're going. And you're
- 9:03Speaker 2: still worrying about those things. And it's like you have
- 9:05Speaker 2: no idea, like I'm sorry, I want to men make
- 9:09Speaker 2: this into a whole thing. But there was here's an example. Okay,
- 9:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll give you a biblical example, if that's okay,
- 9:17Speaker 2: If you guys are are you okay with that? Yes?
- 9:20Speaker 2: So okay, So we have the still okay, So Christ
- 9:25Speaker 2: had just done a thing he you know, with a
- 9:28Speaker 2: bunch of what they call in the Bible, they call
- 9:30Speaker 2: him multitudes. But like all of the people who are
- 9:33Speaker 2: come to see the Messiah and they're healed and all
- 9:35Speaker 2: this stuff, right, and he tells the apostles, his apostles,
- 9:39Speaker 2: to get on a boat. I mean, you know the story.
- 9:41Speaker 2: It's the story of of him walking on water. But
- 9:43Speaker 2: there's there's more to it than that. He tells them
- 9:45Speaker 2: to go on a boat and then he will meet
- 9:47Speaker 2: them later on like in a uh you know, like
- 9:52Speaker 2: in the in a few at the end of the
- 9:54Speaker 2: fourth like it's basically the next morning. Okay, So I'll
- 9:57Speaker 2: see you in the in the morning, and he goes
- 9:59Speaker 2: to the mountain and he's on a mountain by himself, Christ,
- 10:03Speaker 2: that is Jesus, okay, and the the Apostles are on
- 10:06Speaker 2: the boat and the and there's a storm and they
- 10:09Speaker 2: can't see. It's really windy. The waves are tossing the
- 10:13Speaker 2: boat around. They're terrified that they're going to die because
- 10:17Speaker 2: they're they're not going to The boat is small and flimsy,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and you know it's not going to be able to
- 10:23Speaker 2: like carry them across in their their fear of that. Now,
- 10:27Speaker 2: Jesus ends up showing up the last minute and he's
- 10:31Speaker 2: like walking on water towards them and there, you know,
- 10:35Speaker 2: at this point, I think it's Peter. He gets out.
- 10:38Speaker 2: The Christ says, come, you know, they think it's a ghost.
- 10:41Speaker 2: And then Jesus says, no, it's me. And Peter says,
- 10:45Speaker 2: if it's you, I'm going to go to you. And
- 10:47Speaker 2: he does, and he walks on water too until he
- 10:50Speaker 2: like gets closed and then he gets distracted by looking
- 10:52Speaker 2: at all of this share around him and he starts
- 10:54Speaker 2: to sink and then Christ you know, grabs his hand,
- 10:57Speaker 2: and that's where the line oe of little faith you know,
- 11:01Speaker 2: comes from. But what what I'm bringing this up is
- 11:05Speaker 2: because it's not about the miracle of walking on water,
- 11:08Speaker 2: it's about why. Okay, So Jesus Christ is the son
- 11:12Speaker 2: of God, so he knew, and this is important. He
- 11:15Speaker 2: knew the apostles were in the boat. He knew there
- 11:18Speaker 2: was a storm, he knew they were scared, he knew
- 11:20Speaker 2: it was being tossed around. But he did not go
- 11:23Speaker 2: and save them, even though it would have been no
- 11:26Speaker 2: big deal to do that, right if we take the
- 11:29Speaker 2: if we take the tail as it is, So why
- 11:31Speaker 2: did he let them, you know, like sit there and
- 11:35Speaker 2: experience that before he showed up? And I think the
- 11:39Speaker 2: takeaway is that you have to know some kind of
- 11:43Speaker 2: struggle before you can realize, you know, like like knowing
- 11:48Speaker 2: that you're in this amount of danger is it builds character.
- 11:52Speaker 2: It's it's important for us to learn resilience, and it
- 11:57Speaker 2: gives us wisdom and it allows us to, you know,
- 12:00Speaker 2: essentially be able to carry ourselves in the world because
- 12:02Speaker 2: the world does not shield you from everything. That's the point. Okay.
- 12:06Speaker 2: So that's just an example. And I think when I,
- 12:10Speaker 2: you know, I read that story and I saw I
- 12:14Speaker 2: was told about it from this perspective, and I said, yeah.
- 12:18Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's and it's repeated and like
- 12:21Speaker 2: all throughout, you know, not just biblical stories, but all
- 12:24Speaker 2: kinds of fairy tales and stuff, this idea that someone
- 12:28Speaker 2: they have to experience, like what the potential, the fact
- 12:31Speaker 2: that the world is not a safe place and that
- 12:33Speaker 2: there's there are certain like things or virtues that you
- 12:37Speaker 2: have to strive for, which are you know, things that
- 12:40Speaker 2: involve you being proactive, but there are also things that
- 12:43Speaker 2: you have to learn from. You know, your ability to resist, right,
- 12:47Speaker 2: you have to resist, you have to endure, you have
- 12:51Speaker 2: to persevere, and that means struggling and hardship. And I
- 12:56Speaker 2: just I think that too many people in general are
- 13:00Speaker 2: divorced from that, but women in particular, And I think
- 13:03Speaker 2: that it's a shame because I think that it's kind
- 13:05Speaker 2: of men's fault for shielding them to this degree because
- 13:09Speaker 2: when it hits the fan, they're going to have to
- 13:11Speaker 2: learn how to pick berries. You know.
- 13:15Speaker 3: The thing is that it's not just that men, it's
- 13:17Speaker 3: just technological changes. The fact is that the work that
- 13:23Speaker 3: women did throughout human history was essential to survival. So
- 13:29Speaker 3: I mean when I say that men do the work,
- 13:31Speaker 3: that's essential to survival. That's now, that's post industrial like.
- 13:35Speaker 3: Prior to that, women did a lot of the work
- 13:38Speaker 3: that was essential for human survival, and in that situation,
- 13:42Speaker 3: just the fact that their role is one of absolute
- 13:45Speaker 3: necessity probably would have encouraged the development of this kind
- 13:51Speaker 3: of understanding of self and the necessity of getting up
- 13:56Speaker 3: doing the work, having those virtues being industrious and having
- 14:01Speaker 3: being forward thinking and that kind of thing, and not
- 14:03Speaker 3: just looking in your own little syllopsistic bubble defined by
- 14:06Speaker 3: your own kind of desires. This this was not This
- 14:10Speaker 3: was not what women's role was in the past. This
- 14:13Speaker 3: is very recent. M sorry, excuse me. I think that
- 14:21Speaker 3: was a sneeze. I don't know, but yeah, this is
- 14:24Speaker 3: a I just grew my my brushed out my dog today,
- 14:28Speaker 3: so I'm a little bit snez.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Are you allergic to your dog a little puffy? You know?
- 14:35Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be slightly allergic to the dog like
- 14:37Speaker 3: or just pet hair in general, or maybe I picked
- 14:41Speaker 3: up some cat hair from the dog hair. I don't know.
- 14:43Speaker 3: I am actually allergic to cats, even though I have three.
- 14:46Speaker 3: But anyway, so it's like that that whole role that
- 14:49Speaker 3: women had would have taught them the importance of virtues
- 14:53Speaker 3: like hard work. And I really think like when they
- 14:55Speaker 3: when in the Bible it says that are or it's
- 14:59Speaker 3: a Christian saying somewhere idle hands or the devil's work.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I think that's what we're seeing with women their job,
- 15:08Speaker 3: and they have lost their mind as a result of it,
- 15:12Speaker 3: because like it used to be a whole, like the sphere,
- 15:14Speaker 3: the domestic theory, the alleged domestic sphere was massive and
- 15:21Speaker 3: absolutely essential, and then after the Industrial Revolution it became
- 15:26Speaker 3: tiny and inessential and not essential. And I think that,
- 15:31Speaker 3: you know, Betty free Dunn said it's the problem with
- 15:34Speaker 3: no name, and I think it's just boredom. What we're
- 15:38Speaker 3: seeing is the effects of toxic boredom, the effects of
- 15:41Speaker 3: an entire gender losing its utilitarian role, which is an
- 15:47Speaker 3: interesting thought because really what women are suffering from now
- 15:51Speaker 3: is a complete lack of meaning in their lives, and
- 15:53Speaker 3: they're trying to shove consumer goods into that hole of purposelessness,
- 16:00Speaker 3: purposelessness and meaninglessness, and I mean it's good for the GDP,
- 16:06Speaker 3: so yay.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, So anyway, yeah, all that was a
- 16:13Speaker 2: giant digression before we even started. But I guess we're
- 16:16Speaker 2: going to be watching some manifestel. She has two videos.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I don't know which one you want to do first,
- 16:23Speaker 2: but one I'll tell the audience what we got. One
- 16:25Speaker 2: is called the Queen of Tradwives. From Ballerina Dreams to
- 16:29Speaker 2: Ballerina Farm. This is about a well, a woman who
- 16:34Speaker 2: was a ballerina or was had aspirations to be a ballerina,
- 16:39Speaker 2: and then she met a man, fell in love and
- 16:41Speaker 2: started having kids and their Mormons and all of that
- 16:45Speaker 2: is bad because women making decisions about their life that
- 16:50Speaker 2: involve men and children. There's got to be something wrong
- 16:53Speaker 2: with that. And then on the other side, we got
- 16:56Speaker 2: Rise of the Princess Treatment from TikTok trend to a
- 17:00Speaker 2: Woman's Movement. Is this the princess era? Is that what?
- 17:05Speaker 2: I just realized that might be about that. I don't
- 17:07Speaker 2: even know when did this come out? Three weeks ago
- 17:09Speaker 2: so kind of recent. I know, it's like, know, what's
- 17:12Speaker 2: the sprinkle sprinkle thing? Is that the princess era?
- 17:16Speaker 3: Princess era or this is a girly era, the era
- 17:20Speaker 3: of not doing anything for yourself?
- 17:22Speaker 2: I guess, which is era of being essentially a French aristocrat.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Yeah, not even like French aristocrat. Well, I guess French
- 17:31Speaker 3: aristocrats like in the time of losing fourteenth Yeah, basically
- 17:35Speaker 3: paid not to rebel against him.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Well isn't that kind of happening now, aren't there?
- 17:42Speaker 2: Aren't there women paid off by like planned parenthood to
- 17:45Speaker 2: spread feminist propaganda. So they do that, they just so, yeah,
- 17:50Speaker 2: they do. That's totally what happens. It's all astroturfed, it's
- 17:54Speaker 2: all fake.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Well yeah, I don't astroturfed or just a symptom of
- 17:59Speaker 3: like fundamental shifts and technology that we haven't dealt with
- 18:02Speaker 3: psychologically yet. Like I can, I can tell you that
- 18:05Speaker 3: what Benifestel and her audience clamoring an audience of well
- 18:12Speaker 3: losers that what they want is purpose and meaning and
- 18:17Speaker 3: they're probably desperately hoping that a man will give it
- 18:20Speaker 3: to them. But I guess they're just doing what the
- 18:24Speaker 3: television tells them to do. That they find purpose and
- 18:26Speaker 3: meaning in purchase of pre trash stuff that you know,
- 18:30Speaker 3: you own for like a year or so and then
- 18:33Speaker 3: ends up in a landfill. I mean, why not just
- 18:36Speaker 3: take the take your suitcase full of bullshit clothes and
- 18:40Speaker 3: just throw it in the landfill it's that meaningful. Your
- 18:43Speaker 3: life is trash, like it's literal trash. It's all you're
- 18:46Speaker 3: doing is buying trash. You're like that scene. Have you
- 18:50Speaker 3: ever seen The Labyrinth, That scene with the female goblin
- 18:53Speaker 3: and the gigantic mound of trash she's picked out of
- 18:58Speaker 3: a landfill on her back, have you?
- 19:01Speaker 2: I do remember it. I haven't seen that movie in
- 19:03Speaker 2: a long time. I do have a Labyrinth poster on
- 19:05Speaker 2: my wall, though, so yeah, I do. I do honor
- 19:09Speaker 2: the Goblin King and Jennifer Connelly, but I haven't seen
- 19:13Speaker 2: it in a while, but I see it is on there.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I think she's actually on the poster. Doesn't put muppets
- 19:20Speaker 2: on there, but anyway, go ahead.
- 19:23Speaker 3: The main character, Jennifer Connelly's character ends up falling out
- 19:28Speaker 3: of her tainted, poisoned dream that the Goblin Kinning has
- 19:32Speaker 3: given her into this gigantic landfill full of trash, and
- 19:37Speaker 3: this this goblin lady comes up and she has a
- 19:40Speaker 3: mound of it on her back. So she's been picking
- 19:42Speaker 3: through the trash to find pieces to add to her collection,
- 19:46Speaker 3: and then she finds Jennifer's and she starts getting her
- 19:51Speaker 3: to do it. Just pick up trash and put it
- 19:54Speaker 3: into the hole in her heart where purpose should be.
- 19:59Speaker 3: And yeah, and that's the moment where Jennifer loses her purpose,
- 20:02Speaker 3: which is her need to find her brother. The babe
- 20:08Speaker 3: of remind me of the Babe song. So that's that's
- 20:12Speaker 3: the whole scene, and this manifest all her audience and
- 20:16Speaker 3: everything that they're doing remind me of that they are
- 20:18Speaker 3: in a landfill, picking through garbage, trying to fill the
- 20:22Speaker 3: hole that purposelessness left in their heart.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Right, and it's unfortunate that these people vote.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Okay, it really is. Okay, let's get into the video.
- 20:35Speaker 2: So I'm gonna switch scenes here. Oh see, if I
- 20:38Speaker 2: just start playing, you should switch automatically.
- 20:39Speaker 4: The freebird theory is our theory that men like to
- 20:42Speaker 4: cage free.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Hold on, let me try this again. So we're gonna
- 20:45Speaker 2: do the tween of the trad lives from Ballerina Dreams
- 20:48Speaker 2: to Ballerina Farm. Okay, and uh yeah, let's let's get
- 20:53Speaker 2: into this one. I'm gonna if I had to shut
- 20:56Speaker 2: up and then I have to start playing, and then
- 20:57Speaker 2: it'll switch, I think. Hold on, let's let's go.
- 21:00Speaker 4: The freebird theory is our theory that men like to
- 21:02Speaker 4: cage freebirds. They like pursuing women who have things going
- 21:06Speaker 4: for themselves, are on the cusp of something great, are
- 21:09Speaker 4: on the precipice of making a name for themselves. And
- 21:12Speaker 4: these men trap these women, essentially caging the free bird.
- 21:15Speaker 4: And the freer the bird, the higher the bird flies,
- 21:18Speaker 4: the more satisfying. Got takedown. Whether you decide to be
- 21:21Speaker 4: a career woman outside of the home or be.
- 21:24Speaker 3: A stay at home what. Okay, So she's making some
- 21:32Speaker 3: kind of theory based on one anecdotal point. Right, one
- 21:37Speaker 3: anecdotal point. There are plenty of stories throughout history in
- 21:42Speaker 3: which men actually facilitated the development of women in their career.
- 21:47Speaker 3: But she's taken this and she's presuming that the woman
- 21:50Speaker 3: has no say in all of it, that she didn't
- 21:53Speaker 3: decide to do it, that a man just got in
- 21:56Speaker 3: her brain and made the decision for her. And then
- 21:59Speaker 3: she said saying that this is this is this is
- 22:02Speaker 3: an impulse by all men. It's annoying when women like
- 22:06Speaker 3: this talk and say that they speak for all women.
- 22:11Speaker 3: It's downright flabbergasting when they say they speak for all men.
- 22:15Speaker 3: And this is a common attitude that they have. Right there,
- 22:19Speaker 3: this woman is saying she speaks for all men. This
- 22:22Speaker 3: should be about as saying a statement is saying she
- 22:25Speaker 3: speaks for all dragonflies, or all sub atomic atoms, or
- 22:32Speaker 3: that she speaks the voice of the weak force, you know,
- 22:36Speaker 3: like she speaks the voice of gravity. This is nonsense.
- 22:40Speaker 3: And what really baffles me is that people don't recognize
- 22:44Speaker 3: this as gibberish. This shouldn't be comprehendible as an as
- 22:48Speaker 3: a concept in English, I speak for a group that
- 22:53Speaker 3: I am not a part of, and there is no
- 22:55Speaker 3: way I could understand the whole attitude of that group. Bullshit,
- 23:00Speaker 3: just right off the bat, She's just spewing bullshit. I
- 23:02Speaker 3: see what you mean about the How do you contain
- 23:05Speaker 3: a mutated plant that's just got its roots and everything?
- 23:11Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep, Okay, let's see this again.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Hold on a second, switching to the source.
- 23:22Speaker 4: Brid or whatever combination of those things. No choice you
- 23:25Speaker 4: make can undo a man who has held bent on
- 23:28Speaker 4: cajun You Wait, well, what.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Are you talking about, you stupid bent? Just don't get
- 23:35Speaker 3: in a relationship with them? Yeah, like you, is this
- 23:39Speaker 3: your excuse not even to strive to do anything? Oh?
- 23:43Speaker 2: Good lord, I don't know if you know but she is.
- 23:48Speaker 2: She seems to be one of the laziest people on earth,
- 23:52Speaker 2: Like so lazy that she won't even like vet a guy.
- 23:55Speaker 2: I mean, she's probably got a boyfriend. Hell, she might
- 23:58Speaker 2: even have a fiance, and I fear for him. Either
- 24:03Speaker 2: it's going to be a terrifying situation or she is
- 24:05Speaker 2: a giant hypocrite and she probably, like you know, really
- 24:10Speaker 2: submits this man and does not live her values at all.
- 24:16Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, this is just intellectual, emotional and
- 24:23Speaker 2: it's a goal laziness.
- 24:25Speaker 3: How about this for a free bird theory? The desire
- 24:29Speaker 3: for feminists and other women to take away perception of
- 24:35Speaker 3: women's agency over their own life, to chain them to
- 24:38Speaker 3: an ideology that prefers to see them as a victim. Okay,
- 24:43Speaker 3: how about that? Because I can feel coming out of
- 24:46Speaker 3: menifel Stelle's mouth, the expectation of adopting an ideology in
- 24:52Speaker 3: which I don't recognize myself as the final arbiter of
- 24:55Speaker 3: my life, which means that I will never have actual
- 24:59Speaker 3: control over said life. And I bet you know what,
- 25:03Speaker 3: I bet if there was a man out there who
- 25:05Speaker 3: was doing all the housework and all the childcare and
- 25:09Speaker 3: all the support work, for a high flying woman. She
- 25:13Speaker 3: would say that he has exploited her, right, she would
- 25:18Speaker 3: say that he is using her to get money, that
- 25:22Speaker 3: he's not providing her the princess lifestyle, that he's expecting
- 25:26Speaker 3: her to go out and earn the bacon. I guarantee
- 25:30Speaker 3: that that's how she'd look at it, because it's always
- 25:33Speaker 3: man bad. But what is the difference between this woman
- 25:37Speaker 3: deciding to no longer pursue a ballerine a career and
- 25:43Speaker 3: being supported by a man. Being supportive to a man
- 25:46Speaker 3: or supporting a family. It's not really supporting the man
- 25:49Speaker 3: because the man is also doing the supports. I mean,
- 25:51Speaker 3: if you have like a to something that's creating, like
- 25:55Speaker 3: two sides of a frame resting against each other, both
- 26:01Speaker 3: are supporting the other to create something. Right, So the
- 26:06Speaker 3: man and the women are supporting each other in this context, Okay,
- 26:10Speaker 3: especially when we're looking at a homesteader, which I think
- 26:12Speaker 3: we are, all right, So they're both supporting each other
- 26:16Speaker 3: to create a family. That's what's happening. But she's would
- 26:19Speaker 3: say that a man should just support a woman in
- 26:22Speaker 3: living a life of complete luxury. Well, you've just given
- 26:25Speaker 3: up your own agency and your own potential personal achievement
- 26:29Speaker 3: to be part of that. So what is the difference
- 26:32Speaker 3: manifestel between princess treatment and being a trad wife or
- 26:36Speaker 3: being a trad wife after being a ballerina? Like, what's
- 26:39Speaker 3: the difference?
- 26:41Speaker 2: Well, I think the difference is princess treatment. You don't
- 26:45Speaker 2: have to reciprocate.
- 26:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you're not.
- 26:50Speaker 2: If you do, it's he is lucky that you have
- 26:53Speaker 2: doing him a favor. I'm guessing. I mean, well that's
- 26:56Speaker 2: what I that's what I believe. I think princess treatment is.
- 26:59Speaker 2: You know, you know the video where the man is
- 27:02Speaker 2: on the street and he's like asking women how much
- 27:06Speaker 2: they should spend on the first date, and the women
- 27:11Speaker 2: are like, you know, they're giving these crazy high numbers,
- 27:14Speaker 2: and he's like, well what do you what are you providing, like,
- 27:18Speaker 2: you know, in terms of value to match like what
- 27:20Speaker 2: he's spending. And the women are all like they don't
- 27:24Speaker 2: know how to answer except to be well like I'm
- 27:27Speaker 2: being invited to my Yeah, I am the table. It's
- 27:30Speaker 2: my presence, my presence. That was that one girl. My
- 27:33Speaker 2: presence And he was like, but why what makes your
- 27:36Speaker 2: presence worth five hundred dollars? You know, or twelve hundred.
- 27:39Speaker 2: I mean. And obviously when when these women throw out
- 27:42Speaker 2: these like massive numbers for how much money they want
- 27:44Speaker 2: spent on them, it's like they don't know what money
- 27:47Speaker 2: what money is, They just know that it should be high,
- 27:50Speaker 2: so they just like high ball it all the time.
- 27:52Speaker 2: Is kind of like, you know, the opposite of a
- 27:54Speaker 2: guy trying to buy a car. He's trying to low
- 27:56Speaker 2: ball the dealer and he's like, well, i'll give you
- 27:59Speaker 2: this much. They just like, yeah, twelve hundred dollars. I
- 28:02Speaker 2: want I want a hotel at the Ritz, I want
- 28:04Speaker 2: to be in the penthouse, I want room service, you know,
- 28:07Speaker 2: all of it, right, limousine rental or better yet if
- 28:11Speaker 2: you own one, And yeah, I mean, I think it's
- 28:15Speaker 2: just like I think princess treatment is not the same
- 28:20Speaker 2: because a real marriage is both parties becoming one flesh
- 28:26Speaker 2: and working together, like becoming a unit. Now I'm not
- 28:29Speaker 2: saying that's how it works out, because I think in
- 28:32Speaker 2: this in the modern times, it probably doesn't, but I'm
- 28:35Speaker 2: saying that is the goal when you're getting married is
- 28:39Speaker 2: that you become a partnership, and princess treatment does not
- 28:42Speaker 2: sound like partnership. It sounds like servitude for men, benefit
- 28:47Speaker 2: for women, and the men are supposed to feel like
- 28:49Speaker 2: they're not slaves because they're so grateful that she allowed
- 28:53Speaker 2: them the opportunity to serve her.
- 28:56Speaker 3: And yet the essential problem in all this lying need
- 29:01Speaker 3: that women have is unmet, which is purpose, Like when
- 29:07Speaker 3: two people come together and lean on each other in
- 29:10Speaker 3: order to build a life. That's where most people get
- 29:13Speaker 3: their purpose from. So you follow manifestel and you will
- 29:16Speaker 3: always have that aching hole in your heart because you
- 29:21Speaker 3: have no purpose. What's your purpose? To consume pre trash?
- 29:27Speaker 3: Like the goblin in Labyrinth, just constantly going her lonely
- 29:34Speaker 3: way through the landfill, picking out bits of things that
- 29:39Speaker 3: attract her and just putting it on her back until
- 29:42Speaker 3: she's hurt. The amount of trash she has in her
- 29:45Speaker 3: life eclipses her Like that is is that what you
- 29:49Speaker 3: want for it? Like, ladies, is that what you want
- 29:51Speaker 3: for your life? It's just to be hoarding pre trash
- 29:55Speaker 3: until you die? Is that meaning? I'm guessing it isn't,
- 30:00Speaker 3: because if you were, if you did have a sense
- 30:02Speaker 3: of purpose, and you did have a sense of meaning,
- 30:04Speaker 3: you wouldn't spend your time listening to people like manifestel
- 30:09Speaker 3: justifying your situation by sour grapes. Let's be honest, that's
- 30:13Speaker 3: what she's doing. She's this woman probably has more purpose
- 30:18Speaker 3: in her life than she ever has, and that's what
- 30:20Speaker 3: she's saying. And honestly, that's the truth. It's the truth
- 30:25Speaker 3: for men and women. Even men who are incredibly successful
- 30:29Speaker 3: will often say that the most important part of their
- 30:32Speaker 3: life is their children. In fact, there's incredibly wealthy successful
- 30:36Speaker 3: men who I remember this was really impactful. There was
- 30:40Speaker 3: a man who started from like his father was an immigrant,
- 30:45Speaker 3: and he came over and he had like maybe a store, right,
- 30:48Speaker 3: so he could could keep his family fed and able
- 30:51Speaker 3: to educate them. And he had a son who ended
- 30:54Speaker 3: up being a tycoon, like just hugely wealthy. And then
- 31:00Speaker 3: he the tycoon had children, and despite the fact that
- 31:05Speaker 3: he had attained so much in his life, he looked
- 31:09Speaker 3: at his father, who was a grocer and raised a tycoon,
- 31:14Speaker 3: and he looked at his own kids and he's like,
- 31:17Speaker 3: you know, I can never do that. I can never
- 31:19Speaker 3: be as successful a father as my father, because you know,
- 31:23Speaker 3: where do you go from where I am with your kids?
- 31:26Speaker 1: Right?
- 31:27Speaker 3: I mean? And he's not saying his kids are bad.
- 31:29Speaker 3: But he's just saying.
- 31:30Speaker 2: Your sound really. Oh no, you're back, You're back. Yeah,
- 31:35Speaker 2: something I bumped it. Okay, Well you're a little robotic
- 31:39Speaker 2: now just a second ago, like right when I said it.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm robatic now? Am I still?
- 31:48Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a little robotic. I don't know if it's
- 31:50Speaker 2: like a cord thing or your internet might be your internet.
- 31:55Speaker 2: I can't see, like how good your your yeah, I
- 31:59Speaker 2: mean's not okay, I did get a super child in
- 32:01Speaker 2: the meantime. Yeah, I did get a super child in
- 32:03Speaker 2: the meantime. Though, let me just read that. Richard Pierre
- 32:06Speaker 2: gave us five dollars, says Allison. Are you feeling caged
- 32:09Speaker 2: by responding to Manifestel videos? If you're feeling exploited in
- 32:12Speaker 2: any way, blink twice.
- 32:15Speaker 3: You're the one who's You're the one who recommended these
- 32:18Speaker 3: two videos, my friend.
- 32:20Speaker 2: So, I mean, I get it. Sometimes it can be
- 32:25Speaker 2: fun to just listen to how batshit insane some of
- 32:28Speaker 2: these people on the internet are. But I feel like it,
- 32:35Speaker 2: like I'm going bald now because of all the Manifestel
- 32:38Speaker 2: video And this is a luscious head of hair that
- 32:41Speaker 2: I normally have, but I think it's falling out. It's like, yeah,
- 32:46Speaker 2: I think it is. I think it is because of
- 32:48Speaker 2: people like this. But anyway, oh and by the way,
- 32:51Speaker 2: somebody mentioned it was soft girl era. That was what
- 32:54Speaker 2: I was trying to remember. So the Princess treatment is
- 32:56Speaker 2: probably just like the next stage. It's a rebranding of
- 32:59Speaker 2: the soft girl era because the soft girl era thing
- 33:03Speaker 2: was kind of like smack slapped down pretty hard by
- 33:07Speaker 2: the male version. What was the the when the men
- 33:10Speaker 2: started responding to it and they were likezz drizzle.
- 33:14Speaker 3: Drizzle soft boy era?
- 33:16Speaker 2: Was it soft boy era? And so they're they're they're
- 33:21Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, we got to rebrand, because that's
- 33:23Speaker 2: what these people always do. You know. They go from
- 33:26Speaker 2: DEI or they go from ESG to de I to
- 33:29Speaker 2: Bridge to Jedi, and now they're doing something else and
- 33:32Speaker 2: it's all the same crap. They just rebrand it and
- 33:34Speaker 2: then they put it back out there and hope nobody notices.
- 33:36Speaker 2: But anyway, let me go to let's watch some more.
- 33:41Speaker 3: Wait before you do, before you.
- 33:43Speaker 2: You want to finish your point, Yeah it sounds all right.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's good.
- 33:47Speaker 2: All right.
- 33:48Speaker 3: So my point was that even a guy who was
- 33:51Speaker 3: immensely successful, still judged himself in terms of the success
- 33:54Speaker 3: of his or how well he did as a father.
- 33:58Speaker 3: So it's like men and women. This is the thing,
- 34:00Speaker 3: this is what it's about. It's about leaving a legacy.
- 34:03Speaker 3: It's about having children and some you know, some people
- 34:06Speaker 3: you know, the legacy is going to be art. She
- 34:08Speaker 3: decided to make her legacy her children. That was her decision.
- 34:12Speaker 3: It wasn't him forcing her into it. I'm sure she
- 34:16Speaker 3: could have walked away at any point. This wasn't a
- 34:19Speaker 3: kidnapping manifestol. This was her decision. It was her decision
- 34:22Speaker 3: to find her purpose in her family. Bravo. I'm glad
- 34:25Speaker 3: that this woman found a purpose because obviously purposelessness is
- 34:31Speaker 3: causing a lot of pain in women, right and if
- 34:36Speaker 3: she finds a purpose in something so attainable and simple
- 34:43Speaker 3: as having a family, you know, then that is basically
- 34:48Speaker 3: a sign that any woman can find a purpose, a
- 34:51Speaker 3: meaningful purpose in life. That it is accessible to women.
- 34:55Speaker 3: They don't have to be a world cast ballerina. They
- 34:57Speaker 3: can just be a wife and mother. Just men find
- 35:00Speaker 3: a lot of their purpose in their family, in supporting
- 35:03Speaker 3: a family. Do you think a truck driver is like ah,
- 35:05Speaker 3: look at the all the achievement I have in my life.
- 35:07Speaker 3: Most men are not CEOs, they're not any they're not
- 35:11Speaker 3: world class athletes, you know, they aren't word you know,
- 35:15Speaker 3: like best selling authors. Most men just do a job
- 35:19Speaker 3: in order to be able to have a family and
- 35:22Speaker 3: support a family, and that is where they find fulfillment.
- 35:26Speaker 3: And the thing is that Manifestell's bullshit essentially means that
- 35:30Speaker 3: women can only find fulfillment and purpose in the most
- 35:33Speaker 3: narrow of places, which will exclude most people, most women,
- 35:38Speaker 3: because let's face it, most women aren't attractive enough to
- 35:42Speaker 3: attract a man who is going to essentially allow her
- 35:46Speaker 3: to live her life on a cushion. And if that
- 35:48Speaker 3: is where you find your purpose, well, first of all,
- 35:51Speaker 3: he's going to replace you as soon as you get old.
- 35:53Speaker 3: That's a guaranteed. And second of so what do you
- 35:57Speaker 3: do then? What do you do then? Okay? And second
- 36:00Speaker 3: of all, who wants to live their life sitting on
- 36:03Speaker 3: a freaking silk cushion? I mean, this woman is out
- 36:06Speaker 3: there making something for herself. It may be a family,
- 36:10Speaker 3: at may be a home and a farm, but she's
- 36:13Speaker 3: making something that she, at the end of the day
- 36:16Speaker 3: can say call her own and a relationship is what
- 36:20Speaker 3: does the princess treatment make accept an absolute obsession with
- 36:25Speaker 3: your own self indulgence, which is will result in your
- 36:31Speaker 3: own misery because if you're constantly thinking about how you
- 36:36Speaker 3: are not served, thinking about how the pea under the mattress,
- 36:40Speaker 3: you will never be happy. And and one more thing,
- 36:44Speaker 3: a princess in the past would eaten Manifestell alive. Manifestell
- 36:49Speaker 3: would be literally a chambermaid. She would be the kind
- 36:52Speaker 3: of chambermaid who does not do her job. And any
- 36:56Speaker 3: kind of any kind of princess in the past probably
- 36:59Speaker 3: would kicked the shit out of her because they ran
- 37:03Speaker 3: a tight household, let me tell you, and they did
- 37:06Speaker 3: so because everybody needed to survive. So I can just
- 37:09Speaker 3: imagine what Manifestell would have been in the past. She
- 37:11Speaker 3: wouldn't have been a princess, guaranteed, she would have been
- 37:14Speaker 3: a maid, and she would have been the kind of
- 37:16Speaker 3: maid who permanently had her employer's fricking hand slap in her.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Just can just imagine that, just like you are the laziest, ugliest,
- 37:27Speaker 3: stupidest creature I employ, I'm just gonna put my butt
- 37:31Speaker 3: up by boot up your ass until you get it together, Manifestel,
- 37:34Speaker 3: that would have been her life. But because we live
- 37:37Speaker 3: in a post industrial civilization with all of these incredible
- 37:41Speaker 3: luxuries like electricity and plumbing and interior heating, Manifestell can
- 37:47Speaker 3: live in her little cubicle and think that she's a princess.
- 37:50Speaker 3: None of us would have been princesses. Princesses wouldn't have
- 37:54Speaker 3: been princesses the way you're imagining them. Like, princesses had
- 37:57Speaker 3: their own issues to deal with, like getting kidnaps, apt
- 38:00Speaker 3: and being used for ransom or for political purposes, like
- 38:04Speaker 3: having to deal with assassinations, attempts on their on the lives,
- 38:09Speaker 3: the lives of their family members and coups, and having
- 38:14Speaker 3: to deal with making sure the populace didn't hate them. Like,
- 38:18Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff that princesses had to deal
- 38:21Speaker 3: with in the past. They didn't live completely pampered lives,
- 38:25Speaker 3: and their actions could result in a loss of fortune.
- 38:29Speaker 3: And another thing is that they had to care about
- 38:31Speaker 3: which men they allowed into their power. And this is
- 38:35Speaker 3: all the all the aristocratic women. If they chose wrong,
- 38:39Speaker 3: their entire family could be screwed. That was what pride
- 38:42Speaker 3: and prejudice was about one of the sisters chose wrong
- 38:45Speaker 3: and the other sisters could have really been screwed out
- 38:48Speaker 3: of any future because of it. But so it's like this, this,
- 38:52Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell this woman is thinking.
- 38:55Speaker 3: But no, at no time in history did women have
- 38:59Speaker 3: this treatment, and in no time in history would have
- 39:02Speaker 3: manifest they'll even have been a princess. She would have
- 39:06Speaker 3: been a lazy chambermaid with her employer's boot firmly up
- 39:09Speaker 3: her ass.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Yep, all right, let's watch some more of the video.
- 39:16Speaker 2: So we're getting now into the backstory of this ballerina
- 39:21Speaker 2: that she's going to be talking about. So oh.
- 39:24Speaker 4: In the article, Agnew discusses how Hannah, twelve days after
- 39:28Speaker 4: delivering a baby in her bathtub, competed in missus World
- 39:32Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four after winning Missus American in twenty
- 39:36Speaker 4: twenty three, and the writer dubs this whole thing of
- 39:39Speaker 4: Hannah competing twelve days postpartum as pageant gait to illustrate
- 39:45Speaker 4: how controversial it was competing in a pageant twelve days
- 39:48Speaker 4: after a natural birth, or any manner of birth, or
- 39:52Speaker 4: any manner of major health event. And as you can
- 39:55Speaker 4: see here, she's nursing her day's old newly born newborn backstage,
- 40:00Speaker 4: and this extraordinary act propelled her into greater fame and
- 40:04Speaker 4: crown her the quote unquote Queen of the Childwives agnew
- 40:08Speaker 4: Rights Neilman, whether.
- 40:09Speaker 2: She likes just pausing for that for the banana. I mean,
- 40:15Speaker 2: it just sounds like, is.
- 40:17Speaker 3: This more just jealousy masquerading as.
- 40:22Speaker 2: As like somebody, Yeah, there's there's a lot of there's
- 40:25Speaker 2: a lot of hate because well, I don't I don't know.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Let me, let's look at it. It is definitely part
- 40:32Speaker 2: that there is another thing too. I think that a
- 40:35Speaker 2: woman who manages to win a beauty pageant, find a husband,
- 40:44Speaker 2: get married, start a family, and then live humbly. I
- 40:48Speaker 2: think it because like she's on a farm or something.
- 40:51Speaker 2: I mean, she's famous. I don't want to presume that
- 40:54Speaker 2: she's humble, but she doesn't seem to be putting, like,
- 40:57Speaker 2: you know, her whole self out there and like making
- 40:59Speaker 2: everybody pay attention to her, like say, you know a
- 41:02Speaker 2: lot of these like Hollywood celebrity women do, And I
- 41:06Speaker 2: think that that angers people like Manifestel for a couple
- 41:09Speaker 2: of reasons. One, I think there's the jealousy, but The
- 41:11Speaker 2: other thing is it's like a demonstration that this kind
- 41:15Speaker 2: of thing is like within reach for women. Not the
- 41:18Speaker 2: beauty pageant part, but just like finding a man and
- 41:22Speaker 2: living a simple life, you know that breaks, Yeah, that
- 41:29Speaker 2: breaks every like her whole like her whole money stream
- 41:32Speaker 2: will dry up if women realize that, if they're just
- 41:35Speaker 2: not cunts, they could find like a decent guy, work
- 41:38Speaker 2: with him and build a decent life. And it doesn't
- 41:40Speaker 2: have to be extravagant. It doesn't have to be materialistic,
- 41:43Speaker 2: at least not to the extreme. It could just be
- 41:47Speaker 2: And that's a problem for people who make money off
- 41:50Speaker 2: of women's misery. So I think that that's what manifest
- 41:53Speaker 2: I think personally that's Manifestel's main issue.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I mean, think about what this woman is
- 41:58Speaker 3: counseling like this. You don't have to be a ballerina,
- 42:03Speaker 3: you don't have to be a beauty queen. You just
- 42:06Speaker 3: and you don't even have to be a traad wife.
- 42:08Speaker 3: You can have a job. It's just build something, be
- 42:12Speaker 3: with someone. That's where you find a purpose, you know,
- 42:16Speaker 3: build a family, you know, raised children, raise dogs, whatever
- 42:21Speaker 3: you want to do. But don't sit there saying, well,
- 42:25Speaker 3: consumption and being treated like a princess is where I'm
- 42:28Speaker 3: gonna find my purpose. Most of ninety nine percent of
- 42:32Speaker 3: Manifestel's audience, well, probably one hundred percent, let's be honest,
- 42:36Speaker 3: because if you're a woman who's capable of finding I
- 42:40Speaker 3: don't know, a Saudi prince, you're probably not in Manifestel's audience. Okay,
- 42:44Speaker 3: let's be frank, So one hundred percent of Manifestel's audience,
- 42:47Speaker 3: you're never going to have the lifestyle that manifestel is
- 42:52Speaker 3: telling you you need in order to find a purpose
- 42:55Speaker 3: in order to be happy. She doesn't look particularly happy.
- 42:59Speaker 3: She looks like she's full of sour grapes and jealousy.
- 43:03Speaker 3: But again, she is counseling a lifestyle that is completely
- 43:08Speaker 3: outside of your means to ever achieve. And this woman
- 43:12Speaker 3: is saying, you don't need to do all of that.
- 43:15Speaker 3: You can be happy with something simple and quiet and humble.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Isn't that better? Like why would you want to buy
- 43:23Speaker 3: into this and striving?
- 43:27Speaker 2: But how can you make your girlfriends jealous if you're
- 43:30Speaker 2: living a humble life?
- 43:32Speaker 3: Well, at this point, like they'll be jealous because what
- 43:36Speaker 3: do they get at the end of the day. I mean,
- 43:38Speaker 3: you know, if you think about it. For all of
- 43:40Speaker 3: the women who've settled, so called settled for a man
- 43:43Speaker 3: and have built a life with him, at the end,
- 43:46Speaker 3: they have that life. They have had a lifetime with
- 43:49Speaker 3: a man who's cared about them, presumably hopefully, I mean
- 43:54Speaker 3: most likely. And what has manifest Now, what has Manifestel
- 44:01Speaker 3: had presumably or what has the people who buy into
- 44:05Speaker 3: her rhetoric? What are they gonna end up with? What
- 44:08Speaker 3: like a mountain of pre trash They're gonna literally their
- 44:13Speaker 3: legacy in the world is going to be a vein
- 44:16Speaker 3: of pre trash or a vein of trash in a
- 44:19Speaker 3: landfilled think about it, that's their legacy. Congratulations. Yeah, and
- 44:28Speaker 3: a bunch of achievements that everyone will forget because the
- 44:31Speaker 3: most that most women get is middle management, let's face it, right,
- 44:36Speaker 3: and they'll think that they were owed being a CEO,
- 44:41Speaker 3: like Manifestel says. But the honest to god truth is,
- 44:44Speaker 3: there are more women proportionately as CEOs than there are
- 44:49Speaker 3: women as garbage collectors. So whatever pressure in society is
- 44:55Speaker 3: disproportionately putting women into CEO positions, So you have a
- 44:58Speaker 3: better shot at becoming a CEO than a man. Man
- 45:01Speaker 3: if you're a woman, you have a better shot. You're
- 45:04Speaker 3: proportionately more likely to end up in a CEO position
- 45:08Speaker 3: than the worst jobs. So you take, but you still
- 45:13Speaker 3: mostly end up in management. Middle management. That's gonna be
- 45:16Speaker 3: your big thing that you have constructed in your life.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, I hope you like human resources as the job.
- 45:25Speaker 2: All right, let's watch some more you go.
- 45:31Speaker 4: I did or not was declared leader of a new
- 45:33Speaker 4: and controversial group of the internet, the tradwives. And we
- 45:36Speaker 4: have talked about tradwives so much in this swell girly
- 45:39Speaker 4: support group, but in today's class, we are adding on
- 45:41Speaker 4: extra layers. So let's talk about the Holy Trinity of Mormonism,
- 45:45Speaker 4: triede wifery and influencing.
- 45:47Speaker 3: And I know it all.
- 45:49Speaker 2: I don't want to like, she's gonna get into that.
- 45:55Speaker 3: You can't time code this, right, I did four minutes in.
- 45:58Speaker 3: I don't want to do like, can we move?
- 46:02Speaker 2: Okay, I'm jumping ahead. I'm jumping ahead.
- 46:06Speaker 3: I mean, okay, let's just let's just let's just summarize
- 46:10Speaker 3: this is this is uh what do you happening?
- 46:16Speaker 2: I'm I'm already there, but go ahead.
- 46:18Speaker 3: What we're to say, let's summarize this, she doesn't like
- 46:25Speaker 3: trad wifery honing in on her territory because essentially it's
- 46:31Speaker 3: you know, be a decent person, build a family, you'll
- 46:34Speaker 3: be happy. And what does she wants? She wants miserable
- 46:40Speaker 3: people to watch her her sour grapes content, and you know,
- 46:45Speaker 3: it's like it and trad wives. I don't think at
- 46:47Speaker 3: this point, what is trad wifery? Is I just getting
- 46:50Speaker 3: married and having a relationship with a man, honestly.
- 46:54Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I agree. I mean, like why are
- 46:57Speaker 2: we like why are we giving like term and names
- 47:00Speaker 2: and to things that are just normal, like not like
- 47:04Speaker 2: they're like seriously, like, how long have human beings been
- 47:07Speaker 2: on this earth? How long have we been getting married
- 47:09Speaker 2: and having kids? All of it? For as long as
- 47:13Speaker 2: there was marriage. I mean, I guess there was a
- 47:15Speaker 2: period where we were just like you know, like before
- 47:18Speaker 2: marriage but before language, were just like fucking but like
- 47:22Speaker 2: once we had things like language and homes and agriculture
- 47:26Speaker 2: and communities and villages, we had marriage. We had something
- 47:31Speaker 2: like it at least, you know, some people will claim
- 47:34Speaker 2: that marriage was created by religion. I don't know if
- 47:37Speaker 2: that's true. I don't think it matters. I think that
- 47:40Speaker 2: what I think is that there was pair bonding. We
- 47:43Speaker 2: were like, oh, this seems to be a normal trend.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Why don't we officiate it somehow and call it something
- 47:49Speaker 2: so that other, you know, like so that people in
- 47:52Speaker 2: this pair bonding they stay loyal to each other and
- 47:57Speaker 2: by extension, their children. That's been like most of our history,
- 48:00Speaker 2: it's been most of our life. So like, why are
- 48:03Speaker 2: we calling it something if it isn't for the explicit
- 48:08Speaker 2: reason to kind of demonize it or stigmatize it in
- 48:12Speaker 2: some way so that women don't want it. I mean,
- 48:16Speaker 2: because that's what it's doing. I mean, men are checking
- 48:20Speaker 2: out too, but they're not doing it for the same reasons.
- 48:22Speaker 2: They're not doing it because somebody told them marriages, you know,
- 48:26Speaker 2: like it's going to destroy you. They're looking around them
- 48:30Speaker 2: and they're seeing how women are acting towards men, and
- 48:32Speaker 2: they're seeing what's happening to their friends, and they're basically
- 48:34Speaker 2: making a rational decision. So yeah, I don't know, I
- 48:39Speaker 2: don't know why. I mean, it seems to me that
- 48:41Speaker 2: people who have their shit together are somehow doing it
- 48:45Speaker 2: wrong well.
- 48:47Speaker 3: As men are checking out, probably because family courts and stuff.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Like that, let's be honest.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Yeah, but other men that see that, other men that
- 48:55Speaker 2: see what's happening in family courts.
- 48:56Speaker 3: Yeah, and women seem to be checking out because somehow
- 49:01Speaker 3: men aren't good enough, like period, Like men aren't or
- 49:05Speaker 3: a relationship with a man is not it's like they
- 49:08Speaker 3: don't want the thing itself. But what's strange is again
- 49:12Speaker 3: that that is the situation where women are field the
- 49:15Speaker 3: most happy and fulfilled is in a relationship with a man,
- 49:17Speaker 3: raising a family or you know, working on the relationship itself.
- 49:22Speaker 3: You know, that is where they are happiest and most fulfilled.
- 49:27Speaker 3: And that's what they're rejecting. It's not the problems that
- 49:32Speaker 3: come out of the family courts or the lack of
- 49:35Speaker 3: any kind of protections if you're a victim of domestic violence,
- 49:38Speaker 3: because men have no productions, if they're a victim of
- 49:40Speaker 3: rape or domestic violence in their relationships, and in fact,
- 49:44Speaker 3: they can become a victim of the state because they
- 49:46Speaker 3: are a victim of their wives. So I mean, all
- 49:49Speaker 3: of that is completely understandable, But women seem to be
- 49:53Speaker 3: opting out for some reason because they think that the
- 49:58Speaker 3: most happy situation and that they could possibly attain is
- 50:02Speaker 3: beneath them, And I think it's more like they're too
- 50:07Speaker 3: afraid because committing something requires accepting your mortality. I think
- 50:12Speaker 3: that's where it is. It's just they don't want to
- 50:15Speaker 3: accept that. Yeah, they're going to die, and this is
- 50:20Speaker 3: the person that they're going to This is going to
- 50:22Speaker 3: be the last person that they have relationship with. You know,
- 50:27Speaker 3: eventually they're going to grow old with this person. And
- 50:30Speaker 3: that's difficult to face for people. For a lot of people,
- 50:33Speaker 3: especially ones who've been so sheltered from mortality and commitment
- 50:38Speaker 3: like women have been, they don't they get to enjoy
- 50:42Speaker 3: a lot of the benefits of society without even really
- 50:46Speaker 3: acknowledging where it came from and the sacrifices it takes
- 50:50Speaker 3: to create it. So it sort of created a generation
- 50:54Speaker 3: upon generation of extremely cowardly women who just don't have
- 50:58Speaker 3: the balls to get in a relationship with me, which
- 51:03Speaker 3: is why men are going for femboys. No, I'm just
- 51:05Speaker 3: kidding that. That's just a joke, because they do they
- 51:10Speaker 3: do well. Oh I see to be a traad wife. Yeah, okay, No, No,
- 51:18Speaker 3: I'm just being I'm just being silly.
- 51:20Speaker 2: No, all right, let's jump ahead to the next clip.
- 51:23Speaker 2: So she's talking about the uh oh, what is this
- 51:27Speaker 2: prosperity gospel? Now she uses like religious language, but it's
- 51:31Speaker 2: not really about that obviously, But okay, here we go.
- 51:34Speaker 4: Gospel vibe of seeing success as a sign of God's
- 51:38Speaker 4: favor may also explain why Mormons in Utah are largely entrepreneurial.
- 51:44Speaker 4: As Gregory observes in their article, Basically, the richer you are,
- 51:49Speaker 4: the better person you are, the culturer you're to God.
- 51:52Speaker 4: It's not cleanliness is next to godliness. Its wealthiness is
- 51:56Speaker 4: next to godliness. Gregory writes, don't let the zoom classes
- 52:00Speaker 4: and work at home statuses mislead you. Though these women
- 52:03Speaker 4: are ambitious. These multi level marketing businesses allow Mormon women
- 52:07Speaker 4: to make money and be ambitious all while not working
- 52:10Speaker 4: outside of the home, which in a lot of ways
- 52:12Speaker 4: is still frowned upon.
- 52:13Speaker 5: Says Jones.
- 52:14Speaker 2: All right, I'm just pausing it there. The only thing
- 52:16Speaker 2: I wanted to say about that was she, on the
- 52:19Speaker 2: one hand, let me turn this back on here. Sorry.
- 52:23Speaker 2: On the one hand, she takes issue with trad wives
- 52:27Speaker 2: because they aren't getting that bag and they're not working.
- 52:31Speaker 2: But on the other hand, she's also telling us that this,
- 52:34Speaker 2: there's this supposedly I don't know if it's true because
- 52:38Speaker 2: I don't I'm not Mormon, but amongst Mormons there's this
- 52:42Speaker 2: entrepreneurial spirit. It's probably an extension of Protestantism in general,
- 52:47Speaker 2: I would guess, and that that somehow is also bad
- 52:53Speaker 2: so women, because like, obviously this woman makes money, and
- 52:56Speaker 2: I think what she's with her trinity saying that, like
- 53:01Speaker 2: she makes money as an influencer using the trad wiy
- 53:05Speaker 2: thing as her product. I don't know if that's true.
- 53:08Speaker 2: I think it might have to do with her being
- 53:09Speaker 2: a former professional ballerina. But anyway, I wanted to jump
- 53:15Speaker 2: to the next bit though. But what I'm saying is
- 53:18Speaker 2: there's a resentment. Either way it goes, you can't win.
- 53:22Speaker 2: But I wanted to get to the reactions to the
- 53:26Speaker 2: Ballerina farm article. I don't know if you want to
- 53:29Speaker 2: look at the Ballerina farm article, have to dig it up.
- 53:32Speaker 2: But I'm gonna get to this point where she starts
- 53:34Speaker 2: talking about the reactions. So and Allison, I don't know
- 53:38Speaker 2: if you're trying to.
- 53:39Speaker 3: Talk, but nope, I'm trying to talk.
- 53:42Speaker 2: All right, all right, cool, Well, I'm just gonna play it.
- 53:44Speaker 5: Then here we go, let's watch it together. Okay, it's
- 53:47Speaker 5: my birthday president from Daniel. The tickets togree.
- 53:55Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 53:55Speaker 2: The boys took it up off from Ukraine.
- 54:02Speaker 5: So.
- 54:09Speaker 3: I think it's on me.
- 54:14Speaker 2: Why why is that you're not missing anything any.
- 54:21Speaker 3: My egg gay prid.
- 54:26Speaker 5: It's great they didn't gather eggs.
- 54:29Speaker 2: It's really cute thet You're welcome, thanks Anny.
- 54:37Speaker 3: That's a long time look at her contempt?
- 54:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, Like so the wife gets an
- 54:45Speaker 2: egg apron and this is like a big problem. I
- 54:50Speaker 2: guess this is.
- 54:52Speaker 3: Has anybody noticed that this is all about competition between women?
- 54:56Speaker 3: Like Manifeste just doesn't want a woman to be happy
- 54:59Speaker 3: based on philosophy that is accessible to all women. She
- 55:03Speaker 3: has to like.
- 55:05Speaker 2: All competition only happens between men. That's toxic masculinity.
- 55:13Speaker 3: I swear to God a lot of this what word
- 55:15Speaker 3: he's dealing with right now is toxic competition between women.
- 55:18Speaker 3: They just like she just can't just be like, Okay,
- 55:20Speaker 3: that's fine. I mean, I'm I'm pointing out that the
- 55:24Speaker 3: spoil girly philosophy is inaccessible to the vast majority of women, right,
- 55:29Speaker 3: It's completely inaccessible and it's a lifestyle that cannot exist
- 55:32Speaker 3: outside of modern conveniences and modern utilities completely. And for
- 55:38Speaker 3: the most part, you know, ninety nine point nine percent
- 55:40Speaker 3: of women are not going to be attractive in us
- 55:42Speaker 3: to attract as Saudi prince who allow them to live
- 55:45Speaker 3: in a harem, because that's what spoilt girly treatment is.
- 55:48Speaker 3: So she's preaching something that is inaccessible to the majority
- 55:51Speaker 3: of women, Whereas what this ballerina is showing is that
- 55:55Speaker 3: you can gain happiness with a simple life which is
- 55:59Speaker 3: completely accessible to all women. And you don't have to
- 56:02Speaker 3: have the trad life thing. You don't have to do that.
- 56:06Speaker 3: You can do that, you can have a job. Basically
- 56:09Speaker 3: just trad life means building a life with a man
- 56:11Speaker 3: at this point, and yeah, and you don't need as
- 56:16Speaker 3: much garbage like that. Essentially, that's what the final sort
- 56:21Speaker 3: of like lesson of Labyrinth was. Jennifer let go of
- 56:27Speaker 3: all of her the character played by Jennifer Conley, let
- 56:29Speaker 3: go of all of the pre trash and realized that
- 56:33Speaker 3: her relationships were the most important thing, Like the love
- 56:37Speaker 3: that she gave and get and received from her friends
- 56:41Speaker 3: and her family, that was what was important, not the
- 56:45Speaker 3: shit that she carried around with her, Not the vein
- 56:49Speaker 3: of trash you're leaving in a landfill somewhere that's your legacy. No,
- 56:55Speaker 3: your legacy is the people that you've touched. That includes
- 56:59Speaker 3: your children, that your partner, that includes your friend, that
- 57:01Speaker 3: includes the people you've helped. Like this is this is,
- 57:04Speaker 3: this is what matters, and she's showing what matters, and
- 57:08Speaker 3: Manifestel has this sour look on her face, like I
- 57:13Speaker 3: don't know, a vampire facing garlic.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I mean I think that I think you're right.
- 57:23Speaker 2: I think ultimately this is female competition expressing it. So
- 57:28Speaker 2: I think that she feels like she's trying to make
- 57:31Speaker 2: this it's all about framing with these people. Okay, So
- 57:35Speaker 2: I think she's doing is she's this her this woman's
- 57:37Speaker 2: husband got her a gift and it's an egg apron
- 57:41Speaker 2: so that when she goes and gets the eggs from
- 57:43Speaker 2: the chicken coop, she can put them in the egg
- 57:45Speaker 2: apron and then I guess that's the purpose. I don't know,
- 57:48Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, but it's an apron for holding eggs. Okay,
- 57:52Speaker 2: ironically something that manifest sells probably running out of. But anyway, Yeah, sorry,
- 57:58Speaker 2: I'm being mean, but there is something interesting about this.
- 58:03Speaker 2: But what she what Manifestel's doing is is she's framing
- 58:06Speaker 2: this gift as something that just that, yeah, like it's
- 58:10Speaker 2: oppressive like that, like this man is exerting control by
- 58:13Speaker 2: giving her this gift. It's kind of like you know
- 58:16Speaker 2: the joke of where a man gets his wife like
- 58:19Speaker 2: a broom or a vacuum cleaner for her birthday or
- 58:23Speaker 2: for Christmas. He's like, now you can like keep the
- 58:26Speaker 2: house extra clean, and that we're supposed to be like
- 58:29Speaker 2: you know, really like, oh my god, like offended by that.
- 58:32Speaker 2: But the truth is like these were considered valuable because
- 58:37Speaker 2: it did, in fact make your life easier because you
- 58:41Speaker 2: have to you have to clean things, right, So I
- 58:44Speaker 2: mean yeah, I mean like but some would say, well
- 58:47Speaker 2: you should just get that, like not for a holiday gift.
- 58:51Speaker 2: But I think that she the way that, Like I
- 58:53Speaker 2: don't know their relationship, and I think that she was
- 58:56Speaker 2: obviously really glad. She thought it was really cute, she
- 58:59Speaker 2: liked it, she even tried it on. I don't see
- 59:01Speaker 2: a problem. But of course, Manifestel, again this is all
- 59:04Speaker 2: about framing. This has to be framed as oppressive because
- 59:08Speaker 2: like what Okay, why is it that? And I think
- 59:13Speaker 2: this is true. Big pharma and the medical industry are
- 59:18Speaker 2: interested in maintenance of people or treatments, but not cures,
- 59:26Speaker 2: you know, because they want to keep making money. So
- 59:29Speaker 2: like they're not interested in preventative care. They're not interested
- 59:32Speaker 2: in telling you how you should live your life, what
- 59:34Speaker 2: you should eat, what you should avoid, that we should
- 59:36Speaker 2: do something about process foods, that we should, you know, whatever,
- 59:39Speaker 2: address these issues. Because sick people, people with diabetes, people
- 59:44Speaker 2: with heart disease, people with all kinds of you know,
- 59:47Speaker 2: problems that are the product of their lifestyle. They continue
- 59:52Speaker 2: to feed into the system that keeps it running, and
- 59:54Speaker 2: big pharma has an interest in keeping you medicated. This
- 59:58Speaker 2: was a problem with the psychological indue stry as well.
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: Base Camp they did a thing on it where they
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: basically said, you know, mental health care is all paused.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: It doesn't want to help you. It just wants to
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: keep you medicated. Women are on more SSRIs and than ever.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: Men don't get you know, they don't even approach getting
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: treatment because of the entire framework is against them. So
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: you have like suicide through the roof and all this. Well, ultimately,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: these institutions don't care about fixing these problems. They just
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: want you to keep giving them money while they tell
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: you they're working on it. And that's what feminism does
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: for women. It doesn't have it. It doesn't want to
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: help them at all. And manifestells proof of that. She
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: doesn't want women to be happy. She wants women to
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: constantly need her, and so she will create content that
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: creates that loop so that she stays well fed, well paid,
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: et cetera. And yeah, there's a pretty good chance she
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: probably isn't living up to her standards. Look at a
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: lot of these feminists that, like the hardcore ones from
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: the sixties. Uh, they're all they're like a lot of
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: them are married. I mean maybe their marriages of convenience,
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: maybe their marriages of uh maybe some you know, political gain,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: and they're not actually like marriages of love. But they
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: don't actually live by the things that they're telling other
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: women to live by. And I think that's what this is.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm sorry for the rant AA.
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: There is princess treatment. All of her supporters, all of
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: Manifestel's supporters, are enabling her to live out the life
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: of a princess.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like her ladies in waiting.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: Yeah, you're all ladies in waiting for manifestel.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: That's uh.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it, but I guess you know you
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: do you especially not manifestel. She just doesn't have the
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: I don't know, the style, the presence of a true
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: you know lady, a true aristocratic lady. You know you're
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: you're you're basically ladies in waiting to a scullery maid
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: who probably in the past would have had her employer's
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: boot up or ass constantly. So, I mean you are
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: the scullery maids of a scullery maid. Congratulations, this is
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: this is your the heights to which you aspire. Okay, yeah, all.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Right, let's uh, I got a super chat I should read.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: So J Stewart, thank you. Jay Stewart think he's newer,
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Gave us five dollars in a
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: super chat and said the LDS teaches that each individual
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: has a responsibility to better themselves and those around them,
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: emphasis on family duty and self sufficiency. Yeah, I mean
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: that sounds like that sounds a lot like Protestantism, honestly so,
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: and it makes sense. It makes sense. Think about this, Okay,
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: just just to like, because I have to look at
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: these things in historical terms. You're you're a bunch of
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: essentially colonizers or your colonists. You come to a country
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: you don't know anything about from your homeland, and you're
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: moving west and across the country to settle. I mean,
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: you would like like your self sufficiency and family and
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: community are going to become paramount to just like survival.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: So then it's going to become a part of the ideology.
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: So it's no wonder that the Mormons are all like
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: based out of Utah, because that's probably about as far
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: west as it gets. I wouldn't be surprised if it's
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: historically going like a natural consequence of the actions taken
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: by the people who would later become Mormons or Protestants
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: in general. Like I said, the Protestant work ethic is
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: born out of I think, like, you know, sort of
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: American what would you rugged individualism. So I know that
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: individualism is a bad word now because Handmad's tale and
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five, But I'm going to say it anyway,
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: this is what America is good, bad or whatever. But anyway,
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: all right.
- 1:04:01Speaker 6: So.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Let's get to the next clip. Manifestel is going to
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: be talking about. She goes into like I'm gonna skip
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: this part, but there was like a thing about the
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: holographic mother, which is this idea that the mother is
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: not around because she's like working so hard at home
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: that she can't be Oh yeah, yeah, go ahead, hold on.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Apron And at the a apron being a gift, Like,
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: he's just recognizing the role that she like she's he's
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: seeing her in terms like literally he's seeing her in
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: terms of benefit to the family, right, in terms of
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: the actions she takes to benefit the family. Right, So
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: is that the real problem here is that he's recognizing
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: her as an agent and he's recognizing her value in
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: terms of the benefit to the whole family, like and
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: the the the alternate is that she has no benefit
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: to anyone, which is the spoilt girly philosophy. I will
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: benefit no one but myself. And I wonder if that's
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: really the issue here. You see what I'm saying, like
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: the a Gapron is just recognizing that there's a chore,
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: and in fact, it looks like it's really useful for
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: that particular kind of a chore, right, And if you
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: have to do that every day, it's actually pretty thoughtful
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: to get something that really helps you out with the
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: chore that you have chose, most likely chosen to do right.
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: And the fact that she is thrilled to get that
- 1:05:36Speaker 3: means that she sees herself more in terms of service
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: to her family than self interest. Okay, and I think
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: that's what's really upsetting manifestel that as a woman, everything
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: should revolve around your benefit, not how you serve others,
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: not your own actions and their benefit to others. That mindset,
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: I think, is what she's rejecting. Okay, but let's let's
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: let's continue. So I just want to get that out.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: No, it's all right, I'm gonna play more of the video.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: So okay, like I said, she was talking about this
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: concept and again these fears making up things. But she
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: calls it the holographic mother, and it's basically a woman
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: who is not really there for her kids because she's
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: too busy serving a man, her husband. And this is
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: obviously not true because a mother is also a wife
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: and like hopefully and she's like doing those duties. But
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: then like everybody's got a job to do. The kids
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: are probably gonna be working as they're gonna be part
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: of the crew when they're old enough. They're probably gonna
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: be doing stuff as soon as they're able, so they're
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: gonna be involved as well.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: Get away from this in track, wives do not serve
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: their husbands. They may put the aspects of the job
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: that they do and allow their husbands to benefit from them,
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: but they're not serving their damn husbands. They're serving the family.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: Yes, well exactly that. But then they have they have
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: to frame it that way because if you say, oh,
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: I'm just serving the husband, then it's uh, I don't know,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: it's easier for people to like take issue with it.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: But anyway, let me play this clip, so we're jumping
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: ahead to this other bit where she this is like
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: the last part essentially that I thought was worth mentioning.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: It's called financial independence and the labor of the man.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: I think that's where we're Oh, no, I got to
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: jump ahead to twenty eight to forty one. I'm sorry,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: twenty eight one, So like right here, triedway mom Applaudate's mom.
- 1:07:36Speaker 7: Any kind of mom who loses their financial independence from
- 1:07:39Speaker 7: their husband.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: Reading the article.
- 1:07:40Speaker 7: Today about the mom who has eight children and isn't
- 1:07:42Speaker 7: able to make a decision within her family about whether
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: they hire a nanny or any kind of childcare.
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: So her husband is the one.
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: Just so you know that the when the shorts come
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: on on the vertical, they're just they don't show up.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: Just the video.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: Yeah what Yeah, there's just it's just Manifestelle looking sour.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: So it's not yeah, yeah, well i'd have to because
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: it's nah.
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: I got you, I gotcha.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: I'm just some videos. I mean, this is the problem
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: with this video this format is that it gets cut
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: off on the side, so you're gonna hear it, but
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: you're not going to see that because of the way
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: Manifestel formatted her screen. Because when she's in the middle,
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: so you'll see it, but when she's like reacting to something,
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: she puts it off to the side.
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: But could it be that they don't have the money
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: for a nanny?
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you feel entitled? Like why should anyone
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: feel entitled to a nanny? And what about the woman
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: who is the nanny? Is that not also like is
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: she not also oppressed somehow? Like, I mean, how does
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: this work?
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: Exactly no idea, but apparently this uh this woman uh
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: so secondhand, So basically at this point, it's hearsay.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: Assuming stuff. She's assuming stuff. Like the thing is, I
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: think they're talking about the ballerina mom. Okay, they're talking
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: about that, but that these people live on a farm
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: and it's like eight She's got like eight kids and
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: a husband and they all probably work on the farm together.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: They may have hired hands that do stuff, but we
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: don't know, but like, yeah, there's a lot of us
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Like essentially, though, the main issue is this, it seems
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: the main issue is that there is, for whatever reason,
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: a presumption that the wife is the one who is
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: suffering the most in this whole arrangement, like her kids
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: aren't because we don't even though we don't know what
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: their situation is. The father is not because he's a man.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: And that's kind of like Manifestel's ultimate thesis. I think
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: it's important. It's also a theme in all of her videos.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: She always says this, Okay, this is important because this
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: is like going to be the primary driver of every
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: single video she makes forever until something changes with her.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: That is like drastic. Men are risk and men are labor.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: That's her. That's it. That's it. Men are risk, which
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: means they're always a dangerous to women, and at any point,
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: who knows they could, they could annihilate the family. So
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: men are always risk to women and men are always labor.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: So no matter how much the man gives, no matter
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: how much he provides, no matter how much he builds,
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: the woman is still doing labor. Emotional labor, actual labor
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: is always labor. And so when you have a woman
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: saying why don't they have a nanny, that's just a
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: woman operating within that frame saying why is this wife
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: doing any labor? Why do you get her an egg aprin?
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: Why are you expect even though she might have asked
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: for one? Oh, you know what I'd like, honey, I'd
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: like an egg aprin because I like to work in
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: the fields and I like to get the eggs from
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: the chickens, and I want to make that job a
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: little bit easier. Could you get me an egg aprin? Right?
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: And he's like, sure, honey, i'll get you one, and
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: he probably and he ordered it from Greece, so it
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: was like some special it had some special significance to her.
- 1:11:10Speaker 2: Might have been I don't know, like you know, maybe
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: she's got Greek heritage. Maybe it was custom made we
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: don't know. You know.
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: Usually what happens is statistically that if the man makes money,
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: they share the decision making. If the woman makes money,
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: she's the one who decides where it's spent, the man.
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: If the man and the woman. If a man makes money,
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: even if he's the sole supporter, statistically he has she
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: also has a stay in how the money is spent.
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: So where they're getting this from, it's not even supported statistically.
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: I don't think it's supported in this particular anecdote, and
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: I don't think it's supported statistically. So basically they're talking
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: out of their ass. There are a bunch of incredibly
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: jealous women talking down another woman. And the way that
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: the Sisterhood does this is they take away a woman's
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: right to say that they have sovereignty over their own choices.
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: Like if a sisterhood does not like you doing something,
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: essentially says ah, a man made you do that, and
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: you're just being exploited. You know, you're just being You're
- 1:12:12Speaker 3: being exploited by a man. And this is how they
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: control women. They take away that aspect of being human,
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: which is the sovereignty over your own mind and your
- 1:12:22Speaker 3: own choices. They strip it away because women tend to
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: be a little bit more concerned about the opinions of
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: other women. I don't give a flying fuck, which is
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: why I'm out here doing this. But yeah, they will
- 1:12:33Speaker 3: strip away a woman's sovereignty if they fail to do
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: what they're told, essentially, and that's what we're seeing right here.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: We're seeing incredibly sour women strip away another woman's sovereignty,
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: recognition of her right to be seen as the primary
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: actor in her own life. And it's and again it's
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: not statistically supported. So where it's coming from is a
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: place of jealousy. It's a place of sour grapes. This
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: woman is living her life. She likes her life the
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: way it is, she likes her husband, and they can't
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: stand that. And the fact is they are not happy people.
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: If they were, they'd be just like, yeah, but just
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: enjoy your life as it is, ladies.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: Just yeah, she looks like she's happy.
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: She's probably not gonna show, you know, like she she
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: looks like she's enjoying herself. Statistically, her city scenario is
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: the one in which women are most happy. So let
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: her show that. Let her show their happiness to the world.
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: If you're happy in your own life, you're not gonna
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: be like, oh.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, a happy woman is not good for sales.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: Happy woman doesn't want to shove a bunch of pre
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: trash into the hole in her heart.
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: Other women might see that and get ideas they shouldn't
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: have about their own life decisions.
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: Do these women ever question the strings that are on them,
- 1:13:57Speaker 3: like the things that are making choices for them? Like
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: I mean? And often when you project this idea, when
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: you strip other women of the sovereignty over their own actions,
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: you are saying something about what you fear about yourself.
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: So the more these women strip her of sovereignity over
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: her actions, the more they are illustrating something like the
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: lady doth protest too much? How helpless they feel in
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: the face of their own compulsions, I would guess, and
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: the fact that how controlled they are by media, by
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: other women, by the necessity of performance, by the jobs
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: that they have, and the expectations that they place on
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: themselves and other women place on them, and how much
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: they feel like they're controlled in the recognition of their
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: sovereignity by the sisterhood. Like that's that when you when
- 1:14:53Speaker 3: a person is forced to give something up in order
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: to remain in a group. That person will not just
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: justify what they have to give up, but will delight
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: in taking it away from others.
- 1:15:09Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, you do, all right, I got a super
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: chow from I got a super chow from Great indoorsh
- 1:15:18Speaker 2: and he gives us ten dollars. Thank you, Great Indoors
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: and says, today I learned about the existence of a
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: mystery manga called the Apothecary Diaries, which takes place in
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: a very exclusive brothel that houses high ranking concubines for
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: the Emperor and other very rich customers. This is what
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: women like Manifestel want to be, although the majority probably
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: end up in a position similar to the main character
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: of the series, namely a poison taste tester for one
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: of the emperor's concubines.
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, yeah, that's if you think about it. The
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: vast majority, like Manifestel is probably not attractive enough to
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: end up as a concubine as an emperor, So yeah,
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: she probably is going to be the chief poison taste
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: tester for the concubine of the Emperor, like, you know,
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: Concubine number seven hundred and fifty two, She's manifest Ella
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: is going to be powdering her feet and tasting her
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: food like gay, is that the life you want? But
- 1:16:20Speaker 3: she's managed, through modern media to leverage her sourness into
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: a position of making a whole bunch of other women
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: her ladies and waiting. It's interesting world that we live
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: in that we we reward sourness to that degree.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: But okay, we do well. I got two more, I
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: got another two super chats. Okay, so Gary Thomas, thank you,
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: Gary Thomas. Sin's five dollars super chat and says the
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: husband and wife are both one of nine siblings, so
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: he's talking about the husband and wife in this scenario.
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: I guess you know a little bit more about this
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: ballerina thing. And have modeled their lives after their parents
- 1:16:59Speaker 2: like most people, and not hire a nanny that they
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: could afford. Yeah, it's like they made a personal choice
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: about how they live their life. And I think it's
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: actually better, probably, and I don't. I'm sure there's day
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: of that shows this that a father and mother raised
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: the children themselves and not through some third party like
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: a nanny or more importantly, and I think this can
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: be more easily to prove than daycare. Like there's this
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: push from like feminists for you know, government subsidized daycare
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: for children, and I don't think it's good for children,
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: not in the long run. Sometimes it's it's you know,
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: you gotta do what you gotta do. But I think
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: that if people are able to, they're probably giving their
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: kids the best chance by raising them themselves. And that
- 1:17:45Speaker 2: could mean a father stays home, maybe he works from home, whatever,
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: But if it happens to be a mom that stays
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: at home, there shouldn't be any stigma around that. But again,
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: this is one of these things that we're not even
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: allowed to talk about because it's so oppressive to women.
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: You know, this whole like, there's just so much shit that.
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: We can't amazing.
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: Table as a discussion because it upsets people.
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: It's amazing how anything that challenges the power of government
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: and corporation is oppressive to women. Have you noticed that?
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: Yeah? It does another one another thing too, And I
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: talked about this just as an aside. I talked about
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: this years ago on my Facebook page because I was
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: banned from Twitter and I couldn't have conversations anywhere else.
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: And I said, because I have a cousin, and my
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: cousin was having trouble breastfeeding, so she was looking into
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: formula and there were people like proposing it, but I
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: offered instead. I said, well, wait a minute, wait a minute,
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: I don't think formula is really good for babies. I'm
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: just going to put it out there. I know, as
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: a man, I'm not allowed to have an opinion on this,
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: but I was learning things about what goes into formula
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: where they convince you, oh, this is totally good for babies,
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: got everything they need, is better than breast milk actually,
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think that's true. I have
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: my questions, And so I put it to people that
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: were friends of mine on Facebook, to that were women
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: obviously that breastfeed that could like answer that, and there
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: was a lot of support from women coming forward and saying, oh, well,
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: if you're having trouble breastfeeding, here are some things you
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: can do. Here's some changes you can make to your diet.
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: Here are some things you can take that will actually
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: improve it. And one of those people, by the way,
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: was prim Reaper, because she was she had a child
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: and she was breastfeeding at the time. I don't know
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: if you noticed, and but I'm kidding about that. But anyway,
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: and it worked. My cousin was able to breastfeed her
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: children herself, and she didn't go to again. The giant
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: FDA approved, you know, formula for babies, and I think
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: that her children are going to be better off. I
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: think that if I go ahead, go ahead.
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Was she happier with that?
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: She is, Yeah, very happy with that. Yeah. Well, I'm
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: saying because she didn't she didn't really want to do formula,
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: but there was a lot of pressure to do it
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: from people who you know, didn't really look into it
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: or didn't really question it. And I was like, well,
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the best way. And sure enough,
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: you know, prim and a couple of other ladies were like, no,
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: I wouldn't use formula if I can help it, here's
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: what you can do instead. And basically it's all about
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: like making things convenient for women, ultimately to the detriment
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: of everybody. It's like, oh, we're gonna make this thing
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: and we're just gonna put you know, vegetable oil and
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: corn syrup and sugar in this and maybe some vitamins,
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: and we're gonna call it formula. We're gonna make it
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: a little like milk, and we're gonna offer it to
- 1:20:40Speaker 2: your baby and women who don't want to And a
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: lot of times women don't like not breastfeed because they can't.
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: I think the majority of times they do it because
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: it's convenient. They're like, oh, this is to me, I
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: just buy this stuff, and I don't think it's good
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: for babies. I mean, like, there are babies who become
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: pre diet on formula. So I'm not I'm just saying
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: it's a reality. And I think that it comes out
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: of this this desire, or at least this front of saying, oh,
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: we're just doing what's in the best interests of women,
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: because you see, in a typical household, you know, you
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: can't afford to stay home and be a mom, so
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: we're going to give you, you know, welfare, daycare, formula,
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: like whatever for your baby, and you're just like raising
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: a sick baby because you don't want to live within
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: your means and make do. And a lot of it
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: is because you're not informed, but some of it is
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: that you're lazy, you don't want to do it. You're
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: just like, well, this is easier to do this. Well,
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: it's rejection.
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: It's a rejection, Like what I see is a rejection
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: of this role of agent. Like literally the woman has
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: an egg apron, which is a recognition of the chore
- 1:21:55Speaker 3: that she does, the act that she does to help
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: support her family in this contact, because that is reoring,
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: that is acquiring material goods, that egg apron, and that
- 1:22:05Speaker 3: former ballerina probably produces more materially than Manifestel. You'll put
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: it out there.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: Oh at the end of the day, Yeah, what's Manifestel doing.
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: She's putting like shitty opinions online. This woman's like raising
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: nine kids, you know, and.
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: Acquiring eggs.
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: Apparently acquiring eggs. They probably do other stuff as well.
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll read one more super chat and then
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: we'll finish off this video. Gary Thomas gives us five
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: dollars again and says, also, I like how feminists like
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: Manifeste ignore that if Hannah had become a professional ballerina
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: by now, she would be getting ready to retire. Yeah,
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: it's not like you can do that your whole life.
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: So what do you really like? You know? And in
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: the meantime, she what this is another thing that she
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: doesn't like is that this woman made a rational decision
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: and nobody made her do this to be like, you
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: know what, I had fun doing the ballerina thing, but
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: this is this, you know, what do I really want?
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: She just determined it. I want babies, I want a family.
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: So that's what she pursued. I don't think anyone forced
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: her into it. I don't think anyone coerced her into it.
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: But of course Manifestel would say that, oh yeah, the
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: man did that. He put on his cowboy hat and
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: radio waves came out of it, and he was like,
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: come on, a little missy, you're gonna make babies. And
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: she couldn't help herself and just like fell, you know,
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: which probably.
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: Probably if you picked up a book from Manifestol's bedside table, right,
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: that would be that some kind of that actually, the
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: romanticy fantasy that she she puts herself to bed with,
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: cries pillow.
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: Do you remember that.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: Cowboy hat?
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: What to do exactly? Or you like, like the Tom
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: and Jerry has this really hilarious clip of it's like
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: a western thing and Tom puts on like you know,
- 1:23:57Speaker 2: like the what do you call them? The chaps and
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: cowboy hat and a vest, and he approaches this female
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: cat and he like puts his puts his shoe on
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: the you know, on the porch of the building she's at,
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: and takes out a cigarette and rolls it and uses
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: the mouse to like close a cigarette and like takes up,
- 1:24:14Speaker 2: takes a pull and blows smoke. That says, howdy, just
- 1:24:18Speaker 2: like that's what he did. And then she was like, okay,
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: you can have all my babies now. So if you guys,
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: look up. If you don't, if you didn't watch Tom
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: and Jerry as a kid, first of all, you've been deprived.
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: But look it up on YouTube. It's really funny.
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: Hypnotized her with her his masculine.
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: Mormon the thrall it was.
- 1:24:41Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if we looked at her bedside table,
- 1:24:43Speaker 3: we probably might find a little bit of thrall based
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: uh naughty books there.
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get into the last bit here.
- 1:24:55Speaker 5: Okay, he gets to.
- 1:24:56Speaker 7: Make the decisions about how they spend money. And this
- 1:24:58Speaker 7: is any ship concern of mine, and this whole idea.
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: About what you don't have a concern, but jealousy.
- 1:25:04Speaker 7: I always wonder what do you think about not having
- 1:25:07Speaker 7: financial freedom?
- 1:25:08Speaker 4: You have no income, and the caption reads Valeria Farm,
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: I'm thinking of you and sending love. Now, this won't
- 1:25:14Speaker 4: be a spoilgarly support group if we don't bring this up.
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: This is why I say I'm not opposed to being
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: a state at home life, but only if I have
- 1:25:19Speaker 4: investments on my own that I can manage from home,
- 1:25:21Speaker 4: as we talked about over and over and over again.
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: But yet, yeah, you know what that investment is. If
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: you leave, you'll get alimony and the house. Like, honestly,
- 1:25:32Speaker 3: there's no state in the Union in which you are.
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: If you are a stay at home they're just going
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: to just dump you on a street, even though if
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: you had been simply a hired nanny, he could dump
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: you on the street like and I mean, and I'm
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: The other thing that's amazing to me, and this is
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: never brought up, is that I know personally young men
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: who are taking care of invalid relatives. And in one
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: case that I've heard about, the I think the daughter
- 1:26:08Speaker 3: of the father who he was taking care of the
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: week that the father died, she demanded that he leave
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: the house. So this guy had been taking care of
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: one of his invalid relatives and the daughter of that
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: relative to the man who had been taking care of
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: her father told her told him to be out within
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: a week as soon when the guy died. So what
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: about the rights of relatives who take care, like engage
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: in palliative care of relatives. What about their rights? I mean,
- 1:26:45Speaker 3: we constantly talk about stay at homes rights, but how
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: about the rights of relatives like that they take it
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: upon themselves to go live with somebody who needs round
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: the clock care and provide it because their family can't
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: really afford that. And when they're done, their reward is well,
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: the their aunt or the daughter of the person they
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: take just kicks them out on their ear and that's happened.
- 1:27:11Speaker 3: Where's their protection? Why is it always focused on stay
- 1:27:14Speaker 3: at home moms? Right, they already have protections in law.
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: Why don't we look at other relatives who you know,
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: give up a career in order to pursue palliative care
- 1:27:25Speaker 3: in their family. Why don't they have protections because they
- 1:27:28Speaker 3: have none? And yet these women constantly bring up stay
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: at home wives as if they don't have protections already.
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: They do.
- 1:27:35Speaker 4: Let's move on, all right, If you are a stay
- 1:27:39Speaker 4: at home wife, a mother, room and board in exchange
- 1:27:44Speaker 4: for unpaid labor is indentured servitude.
- 1:27:47Speaker 3: Okay, and what what you've been talking about.
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: If you're in a marriage and the man provides you
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: with a home and you're expected to, I guess, help
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: maintain the home, that is indentured servitude.
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: What and what is a spoiled I guess the spoiled
- 1:28:13Speaker 3: princess isn't because she doesn't do anything. She's just maintained.
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's you're getting it, Alison. Yeah, it's like,
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: in fact, you know what, the best the most princess
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: treatment scenario, Like the thing that's most in line with
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: that would be a man who buys a woman a
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: home but does not himself live there and just lets it,
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: just pays for it, and she can just do whatever
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: she wants and he's not even around. He doesn't even
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: ask for anything. He doesn't ask to go on a day,
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: he doesn't ask for sex because that's labor, you see,
- 1:28:51Speaker 2: that's labor, So we can't have that. And if he
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: expects anything from her, that's indentured servitude. So yeah, really
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: realistic and normal behavior from this woman. And yet let's
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: just take a look two hundred and twelve thousand subscribers,
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: no negative comments. All the women are like yeas queen slay,
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: What is the use of all.
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: That money if you can't enjoy it? She can't buy
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: clothes she really want. She can't go on trips she wants.
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: You can't go on target run and grabs stores to
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: our bucks like literally, she can't create a mountain of
- 1:29:25Speaker 3: pre cash like I can. She just raising kids and
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: running a farm.
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's keep all right, let's keep going.
- 1:29:38Speaker 4: Everything that you do is not enough. The absolute bare
- 1:29:41Speaker 4: minimum that you should get as a stay at home
- 1:29:42Speaker 4: wife is a monthly recurring deposit into your investment accounts,
- 1:29:46Speaker 4: because only then are you truly fairly compensated for your
- 1:29:49Speaker 4: opportunity costs, and your risk and your labor. If that's
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: even at all possible that you could be fairly compensated
- 1:29:54Speaker 4: for all of that. Okay, it is the only way
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: that you can be financially secured as the non working spouse. Okay,
- 1:30:00Speaker 4: before you complain that, well, not only afford that. Okay,
- 1:30:02Speaker 4: not all men can afford that. Not all men can
- 1:30:04Speaker 4: afford to say whole life. Not all men can afford
- 1:30:06Speaker 4: a wife period. Okay, women are not candy to be
- 1:30:08Speaker 4: handed out to crying men's children who feel entitled to old.
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait what what? Okay? So, God,
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: you're a wretched human being like you basically are treating
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: women like candy instead of being an architect with another
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: human being of a life. You are treating women as
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: a reward for men, being like one hundred percent like
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: they are the bread winder and the trad wife. That
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: you're basically saying that that men are rewarded too easily,
- 1:30:45Speaker 3: that women are given out too easily. But the essence
- 1:30:48Speaker 3: of that is that women are a reward manifestel. The
- 1:30:53Speaker 3: essence of your entire thesis is that women are a
- 1:30:56Speaker 3: reward Your only problem is that you think women give
- 1:30:59Speaker 3: themselves out as a reward too easily. This woman doesn't
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: conceive of herself as a reward manifestol. She conceives of
- 1:31:07Speaker 3: herself as a partner constructing a life, as a person
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: who has a purpose, not as candy. That's the funny thing.
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: She's like, Oh, don't treat women as candy. By the way,
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: you shouldn't give men candy that easily. You're the one
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: who's treating women like candy. That woman doesn't conceive of
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: herself as a reward. That's what you're having trouble with.
- 1:31:28Speaker 3: I don't think of myself as a reward. I'm not
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: a reward for my partner. I'm a partner for my partner,
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: which means I do my half of whatever is required
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: in the relationship to build what we want to do,
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: to build our shared purpose. That is what a woman is.
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: She's not a reward. What the hell do you think
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: you are saying that, Well, you should hold out. You
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: should hold out for even more as a woman, right,
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: you should hold out for even more, even though most
- 1:31:57Speaker 3: of your viewers aren't even a position to do such
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: a thing. You're saying, hold out for even more. You're
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: worth even more. What do you mean by that? You
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: mean that you should reward a woman should reward a
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: certain level of investment in men. What is that doing?
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: That is treating women like a reward. Your problem with
- 1:32:18Speaker 3: this is that you don't recognize this woman doesn't see
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: the world in this way. She is purposeful. Her interest
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: is having a purpose, not seeing herself as a reward
- 1:32:31Speaker 3: for a man going up and managing to get over
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: a certain bar. Do you see what I'm saying yeah,
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: and you know what, unless you are a great beauty
- 1:32:43Speaker 3: and I mean like one of the beauties of the age,
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: and I don't even think a lot of them see
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: themselves as a reward. Right, don't think in this these terms.
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: Think in terms of finding a partner to build a
- 1:32:55Speaker 3: life with, to find a purpose with that.
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: Okay, are you done?
- 1:33:02Speaker 3: Yes, I'm done. I genuinely am quiet. Now I'm going quiet.
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, hold on.
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: I got another an hour to go.
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the source. Gonna play it now.
- 1:33:15Speaker 4: Not handing out wives to all these men like you
- 1:33:17Speaker 4: get a life? You get life like up. The world
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: does not owe men wives, okay, and women do not
- 1:33:22Speaker 4: owe men wives. Annoying And if you feel disgusted by
- 1:33:25Speaker 4: that putting a price on your contributions, okay, grow some
- 1:33:28Speaker 4: self worth. Okay, it's giving low self esteem. And if
- 1:33:31Speaker 4: you feel policed by people into thinking otherwise, know that
- 1:33:34Speaker 4: people who do not want you to advocate for yourself
- 1:33:37Speaker 4: are the very people who are taking advantage of you.
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: Okay, all right, manifest Dell. The single best way for
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: a woman to find fulfillment is in a partnership with
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: a man, right, Men are the reward. I'm gonna blow
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: her brains. Men are the reward for women. There you
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: go and then, and it's not even a very high bar.
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: All you have to do is a woman is recognize
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: that a man brings value to your life. And usually
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: men can work with that. They can usually work with
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: a woman who says, you know what, I want to
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: build a life with you. I want you and me
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: and we're gonna make a purpose together, and you bring
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: value to my life. Most men are there, Yeah, I
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: could work with that. They don't expect you to be
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: a freaking supermodel. They don't expect you to be a ballerina.
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: They don't expect you to to be a billionaire. They
- 1:34:26Speaker 3: don't expect you to be a werewolf, vampire or a pirate.
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: They just you're yeah, yeah, you want to commit to
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: building a purpose with me. I can work with that.
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: And that's what's great about men, because they will give
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: so much for so little. And I think that's the
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: real issue is that you want to create this haze
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: where women don't recognize that, uh that that men benefit
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: women so much. Like you turn off the manifestel call content,
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: you stole your bullshit. You learn to overcome your fears,
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: you gain some courage. Self development, you genuinely develop in
- 1:35:11Speaker 3: terms of yourself. That doesn't mean that you learn to
- 1:35:14Speaker 3: deal with being harem girl number fifteen for a Chad
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: who's dating like twenty three hundred and fifty girls at once. No,
- 1:35:23Speaker 3: that's not self development. Self development is asking yourself why
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: you're tolerating that situation instead of finding a purpose with
- 1:35:30Speaker 3: a man who is in your league. Right, that's self development. Okay,
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: because you're never gonna get Chad. You get Chad for
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: thirty minutes on Thursday. Maybe it's because you're afraid of
- 1:35:43Speaker 3: committing to a life. You know, that's the real problem.
- 1:35:48Speaker 3: Not only are you do you want someone that'll make
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: your girlfriends jealous. You want someone that will somehow take
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: away the essential fear of commitment, because when you commit,
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: you have to recognize there will be a point in
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: time that your life is over right, that you don't
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: have You can't live eternally in the position of decision,
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: which I think is what's going on is these women
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: want to live eternally in the position of making a choice,
- 1:36:17Speaker 3: because once they make one, it's like a it's like
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: a reflection of Eventually life is over. Eventually the you
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: you are the culmination of your choices, and apparently, for
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: a lot of women, especially the ones who watch Manifestel,
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: the legacy they want to leave the culmination of their
- 1:36:36Speaker 3: life choices is going to be a thick vein of
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: crap in a thrin fill.
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, all right, next one, I got a yeah,
- 1:36:48Speaker 2: I got a rumble rant. I'm just gonna yeah, I'm
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: gonna play the rest of I'm gonna play the rest
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: of this clip. This is the end, basically, So Nova
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: Fan twenty one gave us a rumble rant. Thank oh,
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: thank you Nova Fan and says Manifesto is a type
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: of woman to point to happily married women and call
- 1:37:05Speaker 2: them miserable slaves. Well, that's what she's doing in this video.
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: She is basically taking a woman who is posting happy
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: pictures and videos of her with her family, getting gifts
- 1:37:18Speaker 2: and running a farm together, and she's like, oh, I
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: could tell this is she is miserable. She is rated
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: to off to what is it to commit suicide on herself?
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: Right to annihilate self, annihilate whatever it is they got unlive,
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: you know, It's like the zoomer speak for I'm too
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: afraid to call it what it is. But anyway, let's
- 1:37:39Speaker 2: finish this off just a little bit left and we'll
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: look at the next one, which I can probably just
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: do like a couple of the thesis is the same, really, Okay.
- 1:37:50Speaker 4: All ment our labor, All ment are risk.
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:37:52Speaker 4: A man's money doesn't save you from that. Your privilege
- 1:37:55Speaker 4: doesn't save you from that. Your beauty doesn't save you
- 1:37:57Speaker 4: from that, as.
- 1:37:57Speaker 3: He talked about in a past class.
- 1:38:00Speaker 4: Okay, Now I want to talk about this one sentiment
- 1:38:02Speaker 4: that I kept seeing regarding Ballerina Farm discourse about how Hannah, what.
- 1:38:06Speaker 3: Saves you from it? Hannah? Or manifest Dell, What what
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: saves you from it? Manifestel, Like your attitude of like
- 1:38:22Speaker 3: dear destructive attitude, is that what saves you from it?
- 1:38:25Speaker 3: Like from men being risk in labor like women are? Okay, anyway,
- 1:38:31Speaker 3: I'm just asking what saves women from it?
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: He does. He's going to tell you just have to
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: keep watching her videos, okay, and eventually you know you'll
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: get to it. So she's like one of those ads
- 1:38:45Speaker 2: that you get on YouTube that are like, you want
- 1:38:47Speaker 2: to hear the secret to like unlimited wealth or losing weight.
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: And the video is like five minutes long, and they
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: never tell you, they never get to it. They just
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: keep saying this one trick, that's when she's doing this
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: one weird trick will protect you from the risk and
- 1:39:05Speaker 2: the labor of men. Stick with me and I'll get there.
- 1:39:10Speaker 2: Just contribute to my Patreon and I'll give you the secret. Okay, anyway,
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: let's play.
- 1:39:14Speaker 4: The video did not in fact save her from the
- 1:39:17Speaker 4: labor associated with men, because, as we reiterate over over
- 1:39:20Speaker 4: again in the Spoiled Girls Perk group, met our labor
- 1:39:22Speaker 4: and met our risk. And people keep saying like this
- 1:39:25Speaker 4: annoys me to no end when people say that, like like.
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: A ay for money, you're gonna have to earn it
- 1:39:28Speaker 3: every day for the rest of your life.
- 1:39:30Speaker 4: And I'm like, when you marry for love, aka you
- 1:39:32Speaker 4: marry a brook man, aka you marry a man who
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: doesn't provide for you, aka you marry a man.
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: You see here we go, yo, there is no escapement.
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: Just that is life. Like what the fuck, lady? That
- 1:39:49Speaker 3: is life?
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: Like?
- 1:39:53Speaker 3: Life is work fundamentally, like what is a Buddhist principle?
- 1:39:58Speaker 3: A day without work is a day about food. You
- 1:40:01Speaker 3: are trying, you are fighting with reality. So but literally,
- 1:40:07Speaker 3: women can't there's no way to succeed in Manifestel's manifestation
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: because if you marry for money, you're gonna work for
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: it for the rest of your life. But if you work,
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: you're gonna work for it for the rest of you.
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: Like you marry a man who doesn't have money, you're
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: gonna work for it. Yeah, So create a purpose for yourself.
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: Like fundamentally, this is the This is what I would say,
- 1:40:30Speaker 3: Do not watch crap like this. Develop your purpose. Develop
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: what you want to serve, right. It could be God,
- 1:40:39Speaker 3: it could be art, it could be raising German shepherds,
- 1:40:43Speaker 3: it could be having a relationship and raising children. Develop
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: your purpose and stop buying into shit like this. And yes,
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: we are pair bonders. So you are going to be
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: happiest as a woman with a man in a relationship.
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: That's just the fucking case statistically. And anybody who's making
- 1:41:05Speaker 3: that harder, who's counseling shit, that's going to make that harder,
- 1:41:08Speaker 3: which this woman is is full of crap and isn't
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: your friend. It doesn't matter, Like this is the there
- 1:41:16Speaker 3: is not difficult, Like really ladies. I mean, it's getting
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: more difficult because more men are turning away, But it
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: is not difficult to have a relationship with a man.
- 1:41:27Speaker 3: I mean, I think what really is the problem here
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: is maybe men are too easy, right, and maybe maybe
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: you should get a little bit more difficult to please.
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: Maybe that will give women their purpose. But regardless, it's
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: not that difficult to have a relationship with a man.
- 1:41:42Speaker 3: It's a lot more difficult. Actually, women are finding to
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: have relationships with other women. You know that that I
- 1:41:48Speaker 3: just recently watched that. I think it's uh c k no, no, no, no,
- 1:41:53Speaker 3: it's uh ah what he was the one, Oh gosh,
- 1:41:58Speaker 3: I'm gonna I won't give him the name, but he
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: he had a bit where he's talking about how he
- 1:42:02Speaker 3: goes into like a like he sees he watches he
- 1:42:07Speaker 3: watches the life cycle of lesbians, you know, and they're young,
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: when they're young, when they're twenty and they have their
- 1:42:12Speaker 3: whole life ahead of them, they're really happy. And and
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: then he sees them in like when they're thirty and
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: they're thirty five, and they have the same look on
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: their faces as like a married man. You know, they're
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: just sitting in a dive bar, chain smoking, and the like,
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: where did it all go wrong? You know, lesbians? And
- 1:42:29Speaker 3: then he's saying, like gay men are just they're just
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: so happy. They're just too happy, just float around just
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: being happy because they don't have to deal with estrogen.
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: And it's like, it's true, women really suck at having
- 1:42:43Speaker 3: relationships with each other, you know, and the more that
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: they attempt it, the higher the rates of domestic violence
- 1:42:51Speaker 3: and rape are in that particular age group, like young
- 1:42:54Speaker 3: women who are tempting relationships with other women, skyrocketing rates
- 1:42:58Speaker 3: of domestic violence and rape and misery and suicidal ideation
- 1:43:02Speaker 3: and suicide because of that. Right, the happiest you'll be
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: is just get a man. Don't get a pirate, ninja, billionaire, assassin, werewolf, vampire.
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: Just a man, just a man, and make a purpose
- 1:43:21Speaker 3: with him. It's so simple, and it's not you don't
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: have to do a hull of a lot of shit,
- 1:43:28Speaker 3: And it's not that hard to stay in a relationship
- 1:43:31Speaker 3: with a man. You know, you periodically poke him, but
- 1:43:34Speaker 3: most of the time you leave him alone. There you go,
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: That's how you deal with men, like just just just
- 1:43:41Speaker 3: just mostly leave them alone. They're fine. They're like an
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: air fern, and then you cuddle them occasionally, you know,
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: take them out for a walk. I don't make food
- 1:43:52Speaker 3: because I'm I am too scatterbrained to deal with anything
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: that involves firing. Anything involves fire, like my husband won't
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: let me. But regardless, you know, you just take care
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: of them. You'd make them feel loved and cared for,
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: and they do the same for you. It's very simple.
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: It's almost like we're made to do it. You know,
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: you'll get into the groove. It's fairly simple. Anyway. I'm
- 1:44:22Speaker 3: gone on a weird tangent, but I'm just like that
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: listened to this woman. The simplest way to find happiness
- 1:44:28Speaker 3: is get a man.
- 1:44:30Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, guys, smash that like button. For us, it
- 1:44:33Speaker 2: really helps us reach more people if possible, and to
- 1:44:36Speaker 2: people who are seeing the stream for the first time
- 1:44:38Speaker 2: on the shorts or the vertical stream. Hello, and welcome
- 1:44:42Speaker 2: to Honey Badger Radio. All right, so I got a
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: super child from Richard Beierre. He gives us I think
- 1:44:49Speaker 2: it's five, yeah, five, and he says, at least Manifestel
- 1:44:53Speaker 2: isn't working as a waitress at my neighborhood. I hop
- 1:44:55Speaker 2: and definitely, definitely not my local waffle house. No, No,
- 1:45:00Speaker 2: she's the kind of woman that shows up late and
- 1:45:02Speaker 2: leaves early and doesn't do anything while she's there because
- 1:45:05Speaker 2: she's on her phone the whole time. Like just like
- 1:45:11Speaker 2: no work ethic. Yes, they find a way, that's right, Neo.
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: In the chat, yeah, Crusher said Bilburgh and you are right,
- 1:45:21Speaker 3: it is Bilbert. That was Bilburr's bit. It was fricking hilarious.
- 1:45:26Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: And it's not just entitlement, because there's Selene in the
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: chat saying she's very entitled. It's just delusion, like you
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: don't need you don't need to put that much effort
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: in and you don't need to aim for that. Because
- 1:45:42Speaker 3: the thing is that women who are going to get
- 1:45:43Speaker 3: princess treatment like that, they got to get the eye
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: of a Saudi prince. It's not gonna be you, like
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: anybody listening to this, in your a woman, that's you're
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: not going to get the eye of a Saudi prince.
- 1:45:51Speaker 3: Just forget it. But you can be happy and you
- 1:45:54Speaker 3: can have a purposeful life just by following the ballerina's example.
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: You don't have to be a Mormon, and you don't
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: have to not have a career, just you know, like
- 1:46:07Speaker 3: men just want to have one in your life. Just
- 1:46:10Speaker 3: enjoy their company. Enjoy their company in such a way
- 1:46:13Speaker 3: that you don't have to constantly pester them for entertainment,
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: you know, and it'll work out. You are made one
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: hundred percent men and men are men and women are
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: generally made to live together. I know it's very strange,
- 1:46:25Speaker 3: but it's true. They seem strange and fearsome, but really no,
- 1:46:30Speaker 3: once you get to know them, they're like German shepherds.
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: They're very cuddly. Men are excellent. All right, I'm.
- 1:46:39Speaker 2: No, it's it's fine, but there there is a strange
- 1:46:42Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys ever, did you know this?
- 1:46:45Speaker 2: A staggering amount of OnlyFans girls get to fly out
- 1:46:49Speaker 2: to Dubai like every year. Have you have you ever
- 1:46:52Speaker 2: wondered why that is? Anyway, let's move on. So that's
- 1:46:55Speaker 2: the end of that video. Honestly, I don't know if
- 1:46:59Speaker 2: you like, There isn't much else to add. I could
- 1:47:02Speaker 2: play it. Let's let's play the last bit. It's like
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: it's like basically at the end here sous we.
- 1:47:08Speaker 4: Talked about in our downside a pretty privileged class. Beauty
- 1:47:11Speaker 4: doesn't save you for misogyny, Okay, And it's the same
- 1:47:13Speaker 4: thing here, like a man's money doesn't save you from
- 1:47:15Speaker 4: the labor and risk that membring into your life.
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: Well, what does.
- 1:47:21Speaker 2: He has to expressly alleviate labor and risk?
- 1:47:24Speaker 3: And yeah, afward that, like you're you're basically Saudi princess here,
- 1:47:29Speaker 3: I mean you're you're basically Saudi prince at this point,
- 1:47:32Speaker 3: Like yeah, no, no, the vast majority of women are
- 1:47:37Speaker 3: not going to be able to get a man who
- 1:47:40Speaker 3: can alleviate all of their labor, that includes the labor
- 1:47:43Speaker 3: of paying for themselves. Like that's just not gonna happen.
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: And yet again, statistically men women are in terms of
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: the mental health, far better off in relationships with men
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: who do not alleviate their labor. They still have. That's
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: the funny thing. What is said that she thinks that's
- 1:48:01Speaker 3: making men so laborists they aren't, Like you still have
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: to do laundry, you still have to cook, you still
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: have to clean, Like these are still chores that have
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: to get done. The men don't add a hell of
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: a lot that much. And if they're helping to pay
- 1:48:14Speaker 3: the bills, that's a that's a significant contribution. I'm not
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: sure where this idea that men are so laborists comes from.
- 1:48:21Speaker 3: They aren't they.
- 1:48:24Speaker 2: Are no, No, okay. Oh and also I was wrong.
- 1:48:28Speaker 2: It's not only fans models, it's Instagram model. It's actually
- 1:48:31Speaker 2: a much broader umbrella. But anyway, I got a super
- 1:48:36Speaker 2: chow rather from Richard Viere again for five dollars, And
- 1:48:40Speaker 2: he says, isn't there something with harem girls that must
- 1:48:42Speaker 2: be maintained in order to remain the harem or retain
- 1:48:45Speaker 2: the remain in the.
- 1:48:46Speaker 3: Harem, complete chastity to the lord, the harem master.
- 1:48:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't know that. Don't have a harem.
- 1:48:57Speaker 3: Yeah, But the thing is a lot of harem. The
- 1:49:00Speaker 3: thing is the harem ended up being a bureaucratic instrument.
- 1:49:02Speaker 3: A lot of those women they never even had sex
- 1:49:05Speaker 3: with anyone, because, like you have thousands and thousands of wives,
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: what the hell are you gonna do? Yeah, they would
- 1:49:11Speaker 3: just compete with each other for attention. They would never
- 1:49:14Speaker 3: they never even had sex. They were basically in cells,
- 1:49:17Speaker 3: you know, and they competed for the attention of the man.
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: But you know, it was, uh, it wasn't a guarantee
- 1:49:25Speaker 3: that they would get it, and it just ended up
- 1:49:29Speaker 3: being like a bureaucratic instrument. I guess it was a
- 1:49:31Speaker 3: way of getting everybody invested in the status quo by
- 1:49:34Speaker 3: having your daughters in one place. I don't know, Okay,
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: let's uh, shall we all right? I mean it's sort
- 1:49:41Speaker 3: of like Kim Young ill, right, he has a harem
- 1:49:43Speaker 3: and they just go into it because it's they get fed.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: Do you do you want me to play this?
- 1:49:48Speaker 3: Or h fine? Is the next video? Have anything that much?
- 1:49:54Speaker 2: Uh, it's not really different. It's just like again, like
- 1:49:58Speaker 2: I said her, these this ultimately is men are labor.
- 1:50:02Speaker 2: Men are risk. So that's yeah.
- 1:50:14Speaker 4: To basically if your money ever turning for the rest
- 1:50:16Speaker 4: of your life. It's not that men with less money
- 1:50:19Speaker 4: are magically so much more virtuous than men with money
- 1:50:22Speaker 4: or vice versa. At the end of the day, they're
- 1:50:24Speaker 4: all men. Okay, not all men. Okay, it's not all men,
- 1:50:27Speaker 4: but it's all types of men. Okay. Men are labor
- 1:50:30Speaker 4: and men are risk no matter what, unless you have
- 1:50:31Speaker 4: found through consistent actions that they have been that they
- 1:50:35Speaker 4: are and that they will alleviate the labor and risk
- 1:50:38Speaker 4: that they bring into your life, they do not exist. Okay,
- 1:50:42Speaker 4: whether you decide to be a career woman outside of
- 1:50:44Speaker 4: the home, or be a stay at home mom, be
- 1:50:46Speaker 4: a tild wife, or be a hybrids like, Okay.
- 1:50:57Speaker 2: That's it. I'm the that's the end. That it's nothing.
- 1:51:00Speaker 3: Basically, her final statement is you have no agency. Ladies reject. Okay,
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: let's move on to the next all right, you reject?
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: Okay? All right?
- 1:51:16Speaker 3: So where is what the man adds to the relationship?
- 1:51:20Speaker 3: So the man is always just a net negative unless
- 1:51:25Speaker 3: he just he doesn't he just basically becomes the holy
- 1:51:27Speaker 3: ghost and just provides everything for her.
- 1:51:31Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:51:34Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's a new standard.
- 1:51:36Speaker 2: Huh yep. Let's play the intro of this one. Do
- 1:51:40Speaker 2: you do you want to do? Because it's four o'clock,
- 1:51:42Speaker 2: we've been going for two hours. Do you want to
- 1:51:44Speaker 2: do this other one?
- 1:51:45Speaker 3: Let's get it done. Just let's not do as much
- 1:51:47Speaker 3: of it.
- 1:51:48Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's do the intro.
- 1:51:50Speaker 4: Then first changed somehow, princess treatment from provider man has
- 1:51:55Speaker 4: become the new status symbol, and some women are using
- 1:51:58Speaker 4: this new status symbol to excloud other women. But instead
- 1:52:01Speaker 4: of using this status symbol to exclude. We need to
- 1:52:04Speaker 4: use it to include as many women as possible in
- 1:52:08Speaker 4: the category of women who are treated well, so that
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: in the end, the rise of princess treatment and provider
- 1:52:13Speaker 4: men as status symbols may spark the rise of women
- 1:52:16Speaker 4: setting higher standards for themselves and for the men that
- 1:52:18Speaker 4: they date and marry. It's aspirational now, but with new
- 1:52:21Speaker 4: ones and discernment, we can use this trend to raise
- 1:52:25Speaker 4: women's awareness to their own high inherent value and worth,
- 1:52:29Speaker 4: so that they may see that provider men, emotionally intelligent men,
- 1:52:32Speaker 4: genuinely kind men, are the only ones who should be
- 1:52:34Speaker 4: allowed to access them.
- 1:52:36Speaker 3: That's okay. What was it about her saying that women
- 1:52:38Speaker 3: are not candy?
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: Uh, that men are not entitled to wives. Although men
- 1:52:47Speaker 2: are not claiming to be entitled to wives, they're just
- 1:52:49Speaker 2: looking for the opportunity to earn it in the cases
- 1:52:53Speaker 2: where they are actually trying to earn it.
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: Okay, she says that women are not candy, and then
- 1:52:58Speaker 3: she appeals to women as a reward for men in
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: this scenario, right, and essentially okay, Okay's essentially saying that
- 1:53:16Speaker 3: being a spoilt girly is now a status symbol. For men. Right, Oh,
- 1:53:19Speaker 3: you have a completely useless woman. You basically have a doorstop.
- 1:53:24Speaker 3: Your wife is a doorstop. My wife is a doorstop.
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: Oh you must be a big man. Look at you.
- 1:53:31Speaker 3: My wife basically I'm manacled to her and she's basically
- 1:53:35Speaker 3: lives in a comatose state. Look, I'm dragging her along
- 1:53:38Speaker 3: the street. She's just Yeah, she's a complete She's completely
- 1:53:42Speaker 3: useless to me. She does nothing, she provides nothing. She
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: just is a gigantic, goddamn ball and chain. And that's
- 1:53:53Speaker 3: the status symbol. That the men who tolerate that are
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: high status bullshit, and that.
- 1:54:00Speaker 2: We're going to reframe it as emotional intelligence and then
- 1:54:04Speaker 2: you can't call it, you know, essentially servitude to women.
- 1:54:09Speaker 3: Yeah, she's saying that, Well, first of all, how many
- 1:54:13Speaker 3: women can attain can get a man who does literally everything,
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: like who is in a position that they have almost
- 1:54:21Speaker 3: no financial the no financial like we're talking about Saudi
- 1:54:27Speaker 3: princes at this point. That's it. These are the men.
- 1:54:30Speaker 3: And she's saying, well, we want to include all women.
- 1:54:33Speaker 3: You're not including all women because the vast majority of
- 1:54:36Speaker 3: men are not. You have not inherit billions of dollars
- 1:54:43Speaker 3: from oil Okay, that like this is a rare, very rare,
- 1:54:47Speaker 3: and you're getting access to those men, okay, does not
- 1:54:52Speaker 3: assist any woman who does not get access to them
- 1:54:55Speaker 3: in any way. And your words are actually taking away
- 1:54:59Speaker 3: the value of just having a man as a regular
- 1:55:02Speaker 3: old partner in their life. So what you seem to
- 1:55:04Speaker 3: be doing is you actually are trying to make your
- 1:55:07Speaker 3: value proposition better by worsening the lives of other women.
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: You're not including them, you're making their lives worse. You're
- 1:55:16Speaker 3: telling them, Yeah, don't that thing over there that you
- 1:55:19Speaker 3: could do that's guaranteed to make you twice as happy
- 1:55:23Speaker 3: as you staying single, don't do it, And if you
- 1:55:26Speaker 3: avoid doing it, will all benefit because we'll all get more. No,
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: that's not what's going to happen, because there aren't enough
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: men Saudi princes to go around. Maybe you have one manifestel,
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: but most of your there's not one to go around
- 1:55:42Speaker 3: for every member of your audience. Right, what you're doing
- 1:55:46Speaker 3: is you're actually getting those men to tolerate less. But
- 1:55:49Speaker 3: you know what, your fetish lifestyle with your Saudi prince
- 1:55:52Speaker 3: is not applicable to any other woman. Okay, And honestly,
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: the fact that that ballerina who probably could have got
- 1:56:00Speaker 3: a Saudi prince chose I presume a regular Mormon man instead,
- 1:56:05Speaker 3: probably really sticks in her crow right because she had
- 1:56:11Speaker 3: access to that life that she says that Manifestelle says,
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: if you help me, all my sisters, if you give
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: me the golden slippers so I can get my Saudi prince,
- 1:56:21Speaker 3: you will all benefit. So all give give me your
- 1:56:24Speaker 3: attention and your time and ruin your own lives for me.
- 1:56:28Speaker 3: And this woman is like, I don't want a Saudi prince.
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: I just want a dude. I want to live a
- 1:56:32Speaker 3: life with a regular man. He's do you see like,
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: maybe I'm I'm too rarefied, it's too confusing, or maybe
- 1:56:41Speaker 3: I'll figure out how to explain it simply in a bit. Okay, undone,
- 1:56:46Speaker 3: I know that was a transition.
- 1:56:48Speaker 2: No, sorry, we got a super chat first time super
- 1:56:51Speaker 2: chatter from Selene come again and she gives us four
- 1:56:56Speaker 2: ninety nine. I'm gonna sue it's a she. If I'm wrong,
- 1:56:58Speaker 2: I apologize. At least the prostitutes of old understood in
- 1:57:01Speaker 2: order to get paid, they would need to perform their
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: labor services. He's not going to pay to stare. Thank
- 1:57:07Speaker 2: you for that, and yes it's true.
- 1:57:10Speaker 3: All right, Well, the constitutes of old often realized that
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: what a man wanted was a woman he could talk to.
- 1:57:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true too. But even then, like she manifest
- 1:57:23Speaker 2: that would argue that that's still labor.
- 1:57:25Speaker 3: Though, yeah, emotional labor. But yeah, that's that's the thing,
- 1:57:28Speaker 3: like she, I don't know what the hell what is she?
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: What does she? What was? What life is she auditioning for? Okay,
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: let's keep like, yeah, don't don't listen to this woman,
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: she'll make you unhappy.
- 1:57:44Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So anyway, that that's kind of like the
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: thesis of the video. So if we don't get like
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: into everything, that's why. But let's listen to more.
- 1:57:52Speaker 4: Anyway, we have lots of cover. But before we get
- 1:57:54Speaker 4: into it, I needed to hit the like, subscribe and
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- 1:58:02Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Princess treatment.
- 1:58:05Speaker 4: Apparently the new status symbol. Purchasing in your world longer
- 1:58:11Speaker 4: the most highest aspirational marker of high status. It is
- 1:58:16Speaker 4: now getting a man to get you those things, the
- 1:58:19Speaker 4: luxury items, the luxury experiences and the progression kind of
- 1:58:23Speaker 4: makes sense. Women, especially young women, are now increasingly outperforming
- 1:58:28Speaker 4: men in higher education and keeping up with men's entry
- 1:58:31Speaker 4: level salaries. Oh, listen to this. In Kim Parker's article
- 1:58:34Speaker 4: What's behind the Growing gap between men and women in
- 1:58:36Speaker 4: College Completion? Parker writes, the growing gender gap in higher education,
- 1:58:41Speaker 4: both in enrollment and graduation rates, has been a topic
- 1:58:44Speaker 4: of conversation and debate in recent months. Young women are
- 1:58:47Speaker 4: more likely to be enrolled in college today than young men,
- 1:58:49Speaker 4: and among those ages twenty five and older, women are
- 1:58:52Speaker 4: more likely than men to have a four year college degree.
- 1:58:55Speaker 3: The gap. All right, so just slop, we don't need
- 1:58:59Speaker 3: we We've covered this a lot as an issue that
- 1:59:01Speaker 3: men face. Yeah, so how does that relate to women
- 1:59:06Speaker 3: expecting more princess treatment? The fact that men are struggling
- 1:59:11Speaker 3: to get college degrees or ultimately higher recognize that college
- 1:59:14Speaker 3: degrees the better women do.
- 1:59:16Speaker 2: Projects well, Ultimately, what she concludes, she's saying is that
- 1:59:21Speaker 2: the better that women do in education, which I would
- 1:59:25Speaker 2: argue is just giving them debt. But that's a that's
- 1:59:28Speaker 2: a digression. The better women do, the higher of a
- 1:59:32Speaker 2: standard they have for men. So essentially equality is equality
- 1:59:41Speaker 2: has only raised women's standards, and men are underperforming because
- 1:59:47Speaker 2: education is openly hostile towards men, so they don't do
- 1:59:52Speaker 2: as well. And a lot of them are not even
- 1:59:55Speaker 2: bothering because they're realizing that college is a scam and
- 1:59:59Speaker 2: so they're not bothering with it. But in the eyes
- 2:00:02Speaker 2: of feminists and people like Manifestel and maybe women broadly,
- 2:00:06Speaker 2: having a good education is a measure of your worth,
- 2:00:10Speaker 2: even if education itself is garbage, which it is now
- 2:00:15Speaker 2: so and here's another thing too. I was talking to
- 2:00:17Speaker 2: Lindsay about this because I think actually this is related.
- 2:00:20Speaker 2: So women's hypergamy is creating a problem for women because
- 2:00:27Speaker 2: the pool of men that they find desirable is really
- 2:00:31Speaker 2: really small because of how high their standards are. And
- 2:00:35Speaker 2: what's worse about this is that universities, the media, the government,
- 2:00:39Speaker 2: et cetera. They feed into this by essentially prioritizing women
- 2:00:45Speaker 2: over men in terms of their education and the preparation
- 2:00:49Speaker 2: to enter the workforce. So women are getting They get
- 2:00:52Speaker 2: a leg up in education, they get a leg up
- 2:00:55Speaker 2: in grants and scholarships and loans, they get a leg
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: up in finding a job because they're women. It's easier
- 2:01:00Speaker 2: for them to find a job, they may get better
- 2:01:03Speaker 2: pay because companies are being told that there's this wage
- 2:01:06Speaker 2: gap and they need to close it, so they're going
- 2:01:08Speaker 2: to offer women more money. And so women are getting
- 2:01:11Speaker 2: a job easier, they're getting promotions quicker, they're getting more
- 2:01:16Speaker 2: support from human resources, they're making more money. And then
- 2:01:20Speaker 2: they're like looking at their situation and they don't realize
- 2:01:23Speaker 2: how privileged they are, and so they're looking around for
- 2:01:26Speaker 2: a man. But they don't want a man that makes
- 2:01:28Speaker 2: like the same or less than what they're making. So
- 2:01:31Speaker 2: they're they're the pool of men that they think are
- 2:01:34Speaker 2: good enough is really small, and generally they want men
- 2:01:38Speaker 2: that are doing way better than they are, which is
- 2:01:40Speaker 2: even smaller. Right, Like somebody in the chat said that, like,
- 2:01:44Speaker 2: you know, if this goes too far, an any man
- 2:01:46Speaker 2: that's below a ten is going to be an inceell.
- 2:01:49Speaker 2: That's happening, Like that's what's going on right now. Like
- 2:01:52Speaker 2: men who are average or even above average, they're in
- 2:01:55Speaker 2: cells because women are just they can't even see them.
- 2:01:59Speaker 2: They're not people. And a lot of it is because
- 2:02:02Speaker 2: of this artificial propping up, because it is artificial, because
- 2:02:05Speaker 2: a lot of these women are not as qualified as
- 2:02:08Speaker 2: they think, they are, not as smart as they think,
- 2:02:09Speaker 2: they are, not as educated as they think they are,
- 2:02:12Speaker 2: and they don't deserve a lot of the jobs they
- 2:02:14Speaker 2: are getting. So and again, this isn't me just shitting
- 2:02:16Speaker 2: on women. I'm pointing out that they're they're in a
- 2:02:19Speaker 2: delusional place where everyone's telling them, they're gassing them up
- 2:02:24Speaker 2: about like what they're worth, but they're not worth that much,
- 2:02:27Speaker 2: and they're and they're but they're still convinced that not
- 2:02:30Speaker 2: only are they worth what they're getting, but that they're
- 2:02:32Speaker 2: still oppressed by a system, so they should be worth
- 2:02:35Speaker 2: more and that men have to measure up and they're
- 2:02:38Speaker 2: not somehow. And yet even though those men are not
- 2:02:41Speaker 2: measuring up to their standards, they still believe that they're
- 2:02:44Speaker 2: oppressed by those men.
- 2:02:45Speaker 3: So yeah, it's and when when is the discussion that
- 2:02:49Speaker 3: all this women's success success should go to men in
- 2:02:52Speaker 3: terms of their benefit? You're like, when when is that
- 2:02:57Speaker 3: going to happen? That men deserve a break, you know,
- 2:02:59Speaker 3: to stay at home and take care of the kids
- 2:03:01Speaker 3: and get egg aprons. Yeah, so Selene says, soft guy
- 2:03:07Speaker 3: going to start.
- 2:03:08Speaker 2: Well, it's it's it. Yeah, it's kind of just a
- 2:03:10Speaker 2: troll thing right now. But Selene says, you can make
- 2:03:13Speaker 2: big money in the trades. Are a people making six
- 2:03:14Speaker 2: figures but just to college a college two year degree. Yeah,
- 2:03:18Speaker 2: but the thing is the trades are kind of they're
- 2:03:20Speaker 2: kind of low status and icky, and they give they
- 2:03:23Speaker 2: give women like this the ick. So they're not gonna
- 2:03:25Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, it doesn't matter how well
- 2:03:27Speaker 2: men do, because there's always going to be a woman going, well,
- 2:03:29Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I can do better than this, and
- 2:03:32Speaker 2: so because of that, you get all these guys that
- 2:03:34Speaker 2: are probably more than adequate are just going to get
- 2:03:38Speaker 2: passed over. And women are entering the trades too, they're
- 2:03:42Speaker 2: just like again, they're getting this oh, you're totally qualified treatment,
- 2:03:47Speaker 2: even though they may not be. And we'll find out
- 2:03:49Speaker 2: when more bridges start falling in planes start falling from
- 2:03:52Speaker 2: the sky. But anyway, so, yeah, do you want to
- 2:03:56Speaker 2: do more of this? I jumped away. Yeah, I mean
- 2:03:59Speaker 2: like this is all like, oh, they're doing better in education,
- 2:04:04Speaker 2: and you see, I think this is like an ad
- 2:04:06Speaker 2: or something. So I'm jumping ahead past this. This is
- 2:04:11Speaker 2: her promotion. Okay, so we'll just go right here.
- 2:04:16Speaker 4: Husbands that served as stand ins for the husbands that
- 2:04:20Speaker 4: women would have ended up marrying if such husbands existed,
- 2:04:25Speaker 4: and they modeled these synthetic husbands from the sociodemographic profiles
- 2:04:29Speaker 4: of men comparable with the husbands of demographically similar women
- 2:04:32Speaker 4: who are currently married, and via hot deck imputation and
- 2:04:36Speaker 4: an additional sensitivity test. The researchers arrived at these findings
- 2:04:40Speaker 4: lister atal rights. The didactic exercise shows that unmarried women
- 2:04:44Speaker 4: face overall shortages of economically attractive partners with either a
- 2:04:48Speaker 4: bachelor's degree or incomes of more than forty thousand dollars
- 2:04:51Speaker 4: a year. Most previous work suggests that women are more
- 2:04:54Speaker 4: likely to remain unmarried than to settle by marrying partners
- 2:04:57Speaker 4: who are mismatch and age, education, or race. Very interesting,
- 2:05:01Speaker 4: let's keep reading Ariza. Study by Kean twenty seventeen, however,
- 2:05:04Speaker 4: indicated that patterns of assortative meeting have shifted, switching from
- 2:05:08Speaker 4: a tendency in nineteen eighty for women to marry up
- 2:05:10Speaker 4: in socioeconomic status to a pattern today of marrying down.
- 2:05:14Speaker 4: This reversal suggests, at a minimum, that growth in the
- 2:05:17Speaker 4: pool of marriageable men has not kept peace with a
- 2:05:19Speaker 4: rapid rise in women's socioeconomics.
- 2:05:22Speaker 3: See it literally can't like it literally can't if you
- 2:05:29Speaker 3: take money from men. Let's just bring it down to
- 2:05:32Speaker 3: brass tacks. If you take money from men to give
- 2:05:35Speaker 3: to women, the men are gonna have less money. Okay.
- 2:05:40Speaker 3: So if you take these jobs from men to give
- 2:05:43Speaker 3: it to women, and the statistically, the gain in women's
- 2:05:47Speaker 3: salaries has come at the loss in men's. So men
- 2:05:51Speaker 3: have lost total salary and women have gained, and they're
- 2:05:56Speaker 3: starting to meet in the middle, so men and women
- 2:05:59Speaker 3: will have equivalent salaries. That is going to reduce the
- 2:06:02Speaker 3: pool of marriageable men inevitably, even if it wasn't a
- 2:06:06Speaker 3: situation where we're artificially boosting women. The pool of marriageable
- 2:06:11Speaker 3: men is going to decrease simply because men's overall income
- 2:06:16Speaker 3: is declining in order to bring women's overall income up
- 2:06:20Speaker 3: to them. We all decided that this was the aim
- 2:06:24Speaker 3: that we were all going to aim for right equality
- 2:06:27Speaker 3: parody between men and women. As long as women want
- 2:06:30Speaker 3: men who earn more right than they do, and men
- 2:06:33Speaker 3: already earn more slightly more than women, so they want
- 2:06:36Speaker 3: men who earn even more than that. As long as
- 2:06:39Speaker 3: women want that increasing their salaries and decreasing male salaries
- 2:06:45Speaker 3: to fix the so called wage gap will reduce the
- 2:06:49Speaker 3: pool of marriageable men. You got to decide what you want.
- 2:06:52Speaker 3: Do you want a large pool of marriageable men like
- 2:06:55Speaker 3: you would have had in the fifties, almost every woman
- 2:06:58Speaker 3: could have found a man who could support her or
- 2:07:01Speaker 3: most of them at least a upper middle class or
- 2:07:04Speaker 3: middle class and above. But you know, we were we
- 2:07:07Speaker 3: decided that we didn't like that. We wanted to make
- 2:07:10Speaker 3: it so that men and women earn the same. But
- 2:07:12Speaker 3: as long as women only want men who earn more
- 2:07:14Speaker 3: than them, that means that you're having the marriage pool
- 2:07:18Speaker 3: your your the marriage pool is now one quarter of
- 2:07:20Speaker 3: what it was. Right that that by definition, that's not
- 2:07:24Speaker 3: men's fault, because men are you men are doing what
- 2:07:28Speaker 3: you asked. You said women need to earn as much
- 2:07:31Speaker 3: as men. And then they're like, okay, well, let's put
- 2:07:33Speaker 3: all these bursries in place, these these scholarships, let's preferential hiding, hiring, preferential,
- 2:07:40Speaker 3: like getting women into these these lucrative careers. You know, like,
- 2:07:44Speaker 3: let's do this, let's fix this, and they did, and
- 2:07:47Speaker 3: now there's a point. Now you don't have marriageable men,
- 2:07:51Speaker 3: and so it's not men's problem. You said you had
- 2:07:53Speaker 3: a problem with it. They did what they could to
- 2:07:55Speaker 3: fix it. Like, that's not in so far as you
- 2:08:00Speaker 3: can speak to men as a group. Men solve the
- 2:08:03Speaker 3: issue of the wage gap, or attempted to, you know,
- 2:08:07Speaker 3: by increasing women's wages and decreasing men's. And now there
- 2:08:12Speaker 3: are no marriageable men. Apparently.
- 2:08:14Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going, all right, playing some more?
- 2:08:19Speaker 4: Read that again. The growth in the pool of marriageable
- 2:08:23Speaker 4: men has not kept pace with a rapid rise in
- 2:08:25Speaker 4: women's socioeconomic status. I mean, we already talked about it here.
- 2:08:29Speaker 4: Women are more likely to date and marry down and
- 2:08:32Speaker 4: men are more.
- 2:08:33Speaker 3: Like what more? No, they're what what are you? So
- 2:08:38Speaker 3: now we're complaining about those men who marry women who
- 2:08:45Speaker 3: earn more than them. I guess that's a problem too,
- 2:08:50Speaker 3: good lord, Like I said, the only situation that Manifestol
- 2:08:55Speaker 3: will tolerate is marriage to the Holy Ghost, who happens
- 2:08:58Speaker 3: to also be a replicator from Star Wars Star Trek.
- 2:09:01Speaker 3: You can just make everything manifest everything, make everything has
- 2:09:05Speaker 3: no imposition on her way?
- 2:09:07Speaker 2: Are you saying that it's not in the back that's
- 2:09:13Speaker 2: Manifestel's whole bit like modern women that are part of
- 2:09:17Speaker 2: the urban monoculture that they're all just like. If it
- 2:09:21Speaker 2: isn't in the back, I'm going to make a TikTok
- 2:09:23Speaker 2: about it, and that's going to be the extent of
- 2:09:27Speaker 2: my contribution to like fixing the absolute state of society.
- 2:09:33Speaker 2: So all right, let us yeah, see if we can
- 2:09:37Speaker 2: get through a little bit more of this.
- 2:09:41Speaker 4: Men are more likely to date out of their league.
- 2:09:43Speaker 4: And I'm not the one saying this, Okay, the men
- 2:09:46Speaker 4: are the ones saying this. So watch that class if
- 2:09:48Speaker 4: you want to hear it from the horse's mouth. The
- 2:09:50Speaker 4: authors go on.
- 2:09:51Speaker 3: To write, and wait a second, does it when women
- 2:09:54Speaker 3: date up? Are they dating out of their league?
- 2:09:56Speaker 2: Of course not, No, there's no such thing. They're they're
- 2:09:58Speaker 2: getting that bag, well, also securing their own bag, that
- 2:10:03Speaker 2: is dating up. And I think that men probably think
- 2:10:06Speaker 2: that most women are out of their league. Considering the
- 2:10:09Speaker 2: way that we treat men and women in our culture,
- 2:10:12Speaker 2: why wouldn't a man think that every woman is like
- 2:10:15Speaker 2: way above them? Have you heard that song? You know,
- 2:10:19Speaker 2: she's so high above me, She's so lovely debatable? No,
- 2:10:28Speaker 2: but I mean that's what that's I think that's it's
- 2:10:32Speaker 2: been normalized for I think a lot of men to
- 2:10:34Speaker 2: believe that most women are much more out of their
- 2:10:39Speaker 2: league than they actually are. This, I think has been
- 2:10:42Speaker 2: going on since at least the nineties. I think that's
- 2:10:45Speaker 2: when that song came out. It was basically, well, if
- 2:10:47Speaker 2: you look at music from the nineties that men saying
- 2:10:50Speaker 2: about women, almost all of it was like, I'm so sorry,
- 2:10:53Speaker 2: I'm a piece of shit. Please notice me. That's I'm serious.
- 2:10:57Speaker 3: I know.
- 2:10:57Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, like the songs from the nineties,
- 2:11:01Speaker 2: but there's a lot of it's where the simpery started.
- 2:11:04Speaker 2: And then after that you got into the ship where
- 2:11:06Speaker 2: it's like men were singing about wanting to kill themselves.
- 2:11:08Speaker 2: That's how you got Lincoln Park and shit.
- 2:11:11Speaker 4: You know.
- 2:11:12Speaker 3: Uh, anyway, I don't disagree.
- 2:11:15Speaker 2: Pop a roach turned my life into pieces. Anyway, all right,
- 2:11:20Speaker 2: let's let's see, let's place more.
- 2:11:24Speaker 4: Levels now exceed men's. Further implies that young women, by necessity,
- 2:11:28Speaker 4: are less financially dependent on husbands than in the past,
- 2:11:31Speaker 4: and that educational hypogammy has become more commonplace. Young women
- 2:11:35Speaker 4: seemingly face shortages of demographically similar men to Mary, so
- 2:11:40Speaker 4: we're not even talking about hypergamy here. Okay, we're talking
- 2:11:43Speaker 4: isogamy literally lateral movement, and that too has become increasingly
- 2:11:48Speaker 4: difficult because apparently the men are not catching up to women.
- 2:11:52Speaker 3: Long story short, all.
- 2:11:53Speaker 2: Right, well, you know, for the record, though, here's the
- 2:11:55Speaker 2: thing that she misses, and she's not gonna mention this. Okay,
- 2:12:01Speaker 2: She's saying that women are dating down in terms of
- 2:12:06Speaker 2: educational level, So they might be dating men who are lower,
- 2:12:11Speaker 2: like they have fewer degrees, or they're not as educated
- 2:12:14Speaker 2: as the women. What that she thinks that means that
- 2:12:18Speaker 2: women are lowering their standards, But what it probably really
- 2:12:23Speaker 2: is is that those women are in a lot of debt.
- 2:12:26Speaker 2: They're not going to be able to pay it off,
- 2:12:27Speaker 2: and they want a guy who makes some money to
- 2:12:29Speaker 2: help them pay it off, because that's what a lot
- 2:12:31Speaker 2: of this boils down to. And just like somebody in
- 2:12:33Speaker 2: the chat said, guys with lower education could still make
- 2:12:36Speaker 2: good money, and guys are generally more willing to work
- 2:12:40Speaker 2: to support a family than women are, so they're going
- 2:12:43Speaker 2: to do whatever it takes. I know, I know guys
- 2:12:47Speaker 2: personally are used to When I worked in the paint shop,
- 2:12:50Speaker 2: there were older men that had like a wife and kids,
- 2:12:53Speaker 2: and even though the job was hard and stressful and
- 2:12:57Speaker 2: labor is and exhausting, they were so happy to be
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: there because they were allowed to support their family on
- 2:13:03Speaker 2: that money. And it didn't pay that good. I mean
- 2:13:06Speaker 2: it was okay, but it was like you're working in retail,
- 2:13:09Speaker 2: you're making paint, you know. But there were there was
- 2:13:11Speaker 2: a guy he was just he was there on time
- 2:13:14Speaker 2: every day. He did all of his work. He was
- 2:13:17Speaker 2: like the best worker at the at the at the store.
- 2:13:20Speaker 2: And I know it was because he had a daughter
- 2:13:23Speaker 2: and a wife that he was taking care of, in
- 2:13:25Speaker 2: particular his daughter though, do it for her? Remember that
- 2:13:28Speaker 2: from the sentence. So I don't know this. This doesn't
- 2:13:33Speaker 2: get much better. I mean, if you want, we can
- 2:13:35Speaker 2: keep going. But i've this's already three. Do you want
- 2:13:38Speaker 2: me to just you do want me to play the
- 2:13:40Speaker 2: rest of it? What?
- 2:13:41Speaker 3: No, I don't really want to play the rest of
- 2:13:43Speaker 3: this is okay? Let me what's her conclusion?
- 2:13:46Speaker 5: Basically, all right, I'll go to this bit right here.
- 2:13:54Speaker 6: Some time you need to have bad examples around you
- 2:13:56Speaker 6: so you know how to navigate in the good. Oh,
- 2:14:00Speaker 6: feel my help coming, y'all know, what I'm talking about.
- 2:14:02Speaker 6: Sometimes you need bad examples around you so you know
- 2:14:05Speaker 6: how to navigate in the good.
- 2:14:07Speaker 2: I'm not attracting that.
- 2:14:08Speaker 3: I'm working actively to.
- 2:14:09Speaker 2: Never be that.
- 2:14:11Speaker 6: So I gotta see you move wrong so I can
- 2:14:13Speaker 6: move right.
- 2:14:14Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm talking about? So, of course, Okay,
- 2:14:18Speaker 2: just so you know, this is not a man with
- 2:14:20Speaker 2: a woman. I want to make that clear. He's not
- 2:14:24Speaker 2: talking about he's not speaking in defense of men. Okay,
- 2:14:30Speaker 2: she's using him to make her point.
- 2:14:33Speaker 3: Okay, what's her point?
- 2:14:35Speaker 2: Because yeah, I'm gonna let let me see she's I
- 2:14:40Speaker 2: think she just lets the whole video play and then
- 2:14:42Speaker 2: she responds. But here we go, I'll play it from here.
- 2:14:46Speaker 3: What am I doing to attract that? Being amazing, Being.
- 2:14:54Speaker 4: A spoiled girly living in her light and sharing her
- 2:14:57Speaker 4: light with others, you attract anyone. And and I know
- 2:15:00Speaker 4: that sometimes it feels like you don't have any power
- 2:15:04Speaker 4: to get rid of these people in your life. But
- 2:15:06Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now that you do.
- 2:15:08Speaker 3: Okay.
- 2:15:08Speaker 4: Saying that we accept the love we think we deserve
- 2:15:12Speaker 4: is not victim blaming. It's pattern recognition. And the better
- 2:15:15Speaker 4: you get at pattern recognition, okay, and also you deserve.
- 2:15:25Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay, is there
- 2:15:30Speaker 3: a context that we're missing to this?
- 2:15:40Speaker 2: Uh I'm trying to remember.
- 2:15:43Speaker 3: I mean, I know that this this stuff is like
- 2:15:46Speaker 3: basically trying to strain overcooked noodles to find something that
- 2:15:51Speaker 3: makes anything any of all, any of this to tie
- 2:15:56Speaker 3: together is she's I mean, all right, okay. So we
- 2:16:00Speaker 3: have a society that decided that a priority was to
- 2:16:03Speaker 3: bring men and women's incomes together, like to make it
- 2:16:07Speaker 3: so the men and women earn the same, right, And
- 2:16:10Speaker 3: now we're saying it's men's fault that they're not achieving
- 2:16:14Speaker 3: more than women, and yet if they did achieve more
- 2:16:17Speaker 3: than women, it would be due to patriarchal oppression of women.
- 2:16:22Speaker 3: Like this is a no win scenario. It's awful.
- 2:16:26Speaker 2: Yep, yeah it is. And by the way, as an aside,
- 2:16:31Speaker 2: I just want to what are we going to say?
- 2:16:33Speaker 2: What we're going to say?
- 2:16:33Speaker 3: No, no, finish, finish.
- 2:16:37Speaker 2: So there's this Medium article and I think it's hilarious.
- 2:16:39Speaker 2: I'm going to share it with you right now, and
- 2:16:41Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on the screen. Let me turn
- 2:16:44Speaker 2: off the because it's not there's no sound in this
- 2:16:47Speaker 2: so on the screen. Forty five percent of women estimated
- 2:16:52Speaker 2: to be single and childless by twenty thirty. Recent data
- 2:16:57Speaker 2: predicts that forty five percent of women between the ages
- 2:16:59Speaker 2: of the twenty five and forty four will be single
- 2:17:01Speaker 2: and childless by the time twenty thirty rolls around. The
- 2:17:04Speaker 2: number of single women in the US is expected to
- 2:17:07Speaker 2: rise by one point two percent every.
- 2:17:11Speaker 3: Year and vote Democrat. So there there, that's the largest
- 2:17:16Speaker 3: rise in Democrat voters right there.
- 2:17:18Speaker 2: Now, Why am I pointing this out? I'm pointing this
- 2:17:23Speaker 2: out because now they're they're they're calling it a problem.
- 2:17:28Speaker 2: Women are feeling lonely. Now we have to do something
- 2:17:32Speaker 2: about it.
- 2:17:33Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently women are are more lonely or deal with
- 2:17:37Speaker 3: more chronic loneliness than men now. And which is really
- 2:17:43Speaker 3: interesting because when she says, when you're living in your
- 2:17:47Speaker 3: spoilt girly like you'll be attracting all kinds of people,
- 2:17:50Speaker 3: how do you get rid of them? I think that
- 2:17:52Speaker 3: she's creating this illusion of abundance as another thing that
- 2:17:58Speaker 3: she's selling her audience, because if we look at it
- 2:18:01Speaker 3: just totally from a sales pitch perspective, probably the manifestel
- 2:18:05Speaker 3: audience is very very lonely women who are basically going
- 2:18:10Speaker 3: to die alone, and not like the dialone that everybody does,
- 2:18:16Speaker 3: but the dialone and not known about it for two
- 2:18:18Speaker 3: weeks kind of dialone. Oh you know. And and likely
- 2:18:24Speaker 3: this affectation that they actually have an abundance of attention
- 2:18:27Speaker 3: and people who want to do stuff with them is
- 2:18:31Speaker 3: something that's going to attract them because they are lonely.
- 2:18:36Speaker 3: So she's feeding on that desire for company, the desire
- 2:18:40Speaker 3: and in specific probably a parasocial relationship with her, but
- 2:18:44Speaker 3: the perception that her you know, that they have something
- 2:18:47Speaker 3: that they're not. They don't. It's just like the worst
- 2:18:51Speaker 3: kind of pickup artists in red pill bros. Who generate
- 2:18:54Speaker 3: this idea of abundance of pussy or women's attention. You know,
- 2:18:59Speaker 3: do my method and you'll get all this, or or
- 2:19:02Speaker 3: just be my parasocial relationship with me and you can
- 2:19:04Speaker 3: sort of feed off of it. It's a little like
- 2:19:07Speaker 3: I think Andrew Tate's appeal as well. But it's like,
- 2:19:11Speaker 3: I think that's why she's saying it. She's saying that
- 2:19:15Speaker 3: if you, if you follow her procedure, you will have
- 2:19:19Speaker 3: an abundance of attention. And oh, you're on mine.
- 2:19:25Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, I'm sorry I was on mine, And
- 2:19:29Speaker 2: but go ahead, just be careful.
- 2:19:30Speaker 3: About you know, the PMS and stuff. I don't want.
- 2:19:36Speaker 3: I'm just it's just it's just privacy issues for other people.
- 2:19:39Speaker 2: But no, it's fine, it's fine.
- 2:19:40Speaker 3: Okay, something is broken in our culture. Why is this happening?
- 2:19:44Speaker 3: Because women still want to marry up financially and we've
- 2:19:49Speaker 3: made it a cultural goal to remove the gap between
- 2:19:54Speaker 3: men and women. What do you think? But even worse,
- 2:19:57Speaker 3: like women are not encouraged to develop the skills even
- 2:20:01Speaker 3: to be able to have friendships, you know, and with
- 2:20:05Speaker 3: other women, because it's not necessarily easy to have friendships
- 2:20:09Speaker 3: with other women. Certainly it's not easy to have friendships
- 2:20:12Speaker 3: with other women who aren't themselves also trying to you know,
- 2:20:16Speaker 3: be be decent friends, which is again, you know, it's
- 2:20:21Speaker 3: it's it's holding yourself to a standard, your actions to
- 2:20:24Speaker 3: a standard, which, of course is we've seen through multiple
- 2:20:27Speaker 3: installments of Manifestel. She thinks that's misogyny, you know, she doesn't.
- 2:20:33Speaker 3: She wants women to not ever be held to a standard,
- 2:20:36Speaker 3: not ever be viewed in terms of the consequences of
- 2:20:39Speaker 3: their actions. But always be viewed as having inherent worth
- 2:20:42Speaker 3: like candy.
- 2:20:44Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So no, it's okay. I don't think there's
- 2:20:52Speaker 2: anything left to talk about. Manifestel made her thesis clear
- 2:20:58Speaker 2: in the beginning ultimate. What she is saying is that
- 2:21:02Speaker 2: women who find success need to use that success to
- 2:21:07Speaker 2: make other women successful. So she's kind of like asking
- 2:21:11Speaker 2: for less competition. But I think it's really subjective, like
- 2:21:15Speaker 2: it depends on well, how successful is she doing at
- 2:21:19Speaker 2: the moment, because women are going to compete, and Manifestel
- 2:21:23Speaker 2: is essentially a manifestation of that. So there's not much
- 2:21:28Speaker 2: else to get out of this, so I thought we
- 2:21:30Speaker 2: would end on something positive. I don't know, do you
- 2:21:33Speaker 2: want to end or elson or do you want me
- 2:21:35Speaker 2: to do more? I can't hear you. You did something
- 2:21:41Speaker 2: in your audience. I can't hear you, Allison. I can't
- 2:21:44Speaker 2: hear you. You did something. I can't hear you. Let
- 2:21:51Speaker 2: me see. Doesn't show that you're muted here, but it
- 2:21:53Speaker 2: does show your internet is starting to get bad. Video
- 2:21:58Speaker 2: packet loss indicate video preview green is good right as bad.
- 2:22:03Speaker 2: Flame imply CP was overloaded. Hopefully we'll get that. But yeah,
- 2:22:08Speaker 2: it's it's kind of green and yellow. Right now, we're
- 2:22:11Speaker 2: losing packets. We're losing sauce packets of your of your internets.
- 2:22:17Speaker 2: So uh all right, So anyway, I'm I'm waiting alfon,
- 2:22:25Speaker 2: how's your audio? What's going on there? Maybe while we're waiting,
- 2:22:32Speaker 2: I'll play you guys this clip and see so I
- 2:22:35Speaker 2: want to end it on this. This is like how
- 2:22:37Speaker 2: MANFSL views the the ballerina Mormon ballerina lady, how she
- 2:22:45Speaker 2: was approached and how she fell into his his his thrall.
- 2:22:50Speaker 2: So this is the This is the clip I was
- 2:22:53Speaker 2: talking about the Tom and Jerry one, but it has
- 2:22:55Speaker 2: a hood commentary, which basically makes it old. Are you there?
- 2:23:01Speaker 2: That's aught? I heard you?
- 2:23:01Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
- 2:23:02Speaker 2: Yeah? I can hear you now? Yeah?
- 2:23:04Speaker 3: Okay, fine, good, good go. Let's play the clip and
- 2:23:07Speaker 3: I'll give my final thoughts on manifest.
- 2:23:09Speaker 2: All right, all right, check this out. It's short, it's funny.
- 2:23:12Speaker 2: Let's see this time is though.
- 2:23:21Speaker 5: This nigga game is so cold.
- 2:23:23Speaker 8: Look boom bam, throwd a little small boot on the counter, Boom,
- 2:23:26Speaker 8: pop the hat.
- 2:23:27Speaker 2: What's up?
- 2:23:28Speaker 5: You're gonna smoke the sea?
- 2:23:29Speaker 8: Broll it in one hand, flip it leave it open,
- 2:23:32Speaker 8: let the mouse leak it.
- 2:23:33Speaker 5: Come here, bitch.
- 2:23:36Speaker 8: And boom, throw it in the air with the fire.
- 2:23:41Speaker 8: One pool, nigga, that motherfucker gone. I'm done with It's
- 2:23:44Speaker 8: that out of bits.
- 2:23:59Speaker 3: That's probably not Manifestell's visual of how now it went down.
- 2:24:08Speaker 2: Here's here's an egg apron bitch.
- 2:24:18Speaker 3: Oh man, Okay, Well here's the issue, all right. As
- 2:24:22Speaker 3: a society, we've decided that women not making as much
- 2:24:24Speaker 3: of men had to be fixed. We fixed it. Now
- 2:24:27Speaker 3: women want men who make more than them, almost inevitably.
- 2:24:31Speaker 3: But in Manifestel is saying men need to work harder,
- 2:24:34Speaker 3: which if they do, will create another huge gap that
- 2:24:38Speaker 3: society will say, well, this is this is obviously our
- 2:24:41Speaker 3: society's unfairly advantaging women. So we need our men, so
- 2:24:45Speaker 3: we need to destroy this in whatever way we can. So,
- 2:24:49Speaker 3: no matter what, if men attempt to attain Manifestell's standard
- 2:24:54Speaker 3: and women's standard in general of earning more, we will
- 2:24:57Speaker 3: go back and try to stop that from happening. So
- 2:25:01Speaker 3: it's like this, we are in a never ending destructive cycle,
- 2:25:06Speaker 3: a fight with our very nature, which you know doesn't
- 2:25:10Speaker 3: usually last long in terms of it's not it's not
- 2:25:13Speaker 3: a very functional way to be when we're when you're
- 2:25:15Speaker 3: talking about civilization. But anyway, that's what I have to
- 2:25:19Speaker 3: say about that. I don't know if she had any
- 2:25:22Speaker 3: other point. There seemed to be a huge middle there,
- 2:25:24Speaker 3: but there was nothing much going on.
- 2:25:27Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, I think what she is getting at
- 2:25:30Speaker 2: is that when women are pursuing status, they sure number one,
- 2:25:38Speaker 2: have a really high standard, even if the pool is
- 2:25:41Speaker 2: you know, not that deep, because there was like a
- 2:25:44Speaker 2: starting off with this presupposition that you know, men are
- 2:25:47Speaker 2: doing worse and they're not measuring up and they're not competing,
- 2:25:51Speaker 2: they're not keeping up all the women. Men don't want
- 2:25:53Speaker 2: to compete with women. But that also if you do
- 2:25:57Speaker 2: get that, you have to use that status to lift
- 2:26:00Speaker 2: up other women, right and and to do that you
- 2:26:06Speaker 2: have to like be discerning, like with you know, who
- 2:26:09Speaker 2: is going to be good for you to do that,
- 2:26:13Speaker 2: because they also have to be I don't know, it's
- 2:26:15Speaker 2: it's all satus games basically, and it's it's and it's bullshit,
- 2:26:19Speaker 2: it's materialistic, it's shallow, it's hollow. Yeah, So that's basically it.
- 2:26:27Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not it wasn't good. I think
- 2:26:29Speaker 2: that the thesis in both of these though, is men
- 2:26:33Speaker 2: are labor and men are risk.
- 2:26:35Speaker 3: So yeah, well what do they think women are? And
- 2:26:40Speaker 3: and it does come down to that, Yes, getting in
- 2:26:42Speaker 3: a relationship with anyone is risk. But I hate to
- 2:26:46Speaker 3: tell you, but relationships with women tend to be even
- 2:26:49Speaker 3: more risk in terms of domestic violence and other negative
- 2:26:52Speaker 3: things than men, right, and are sort of biologically wired
- 2:26:57Speaker 3: to deal with women no offense.
- 2:27:01Speaker 2: But yeah, so I think I think that's why men
- 2:27:05Speaker 2: develop stoicism. I think that Marcus Aurelius was like, you know,
- 2:27:11Speaker 2: we got to do something about this.
- 2:27:13Speaker 5: I'm not.
- 2:27:15Speaker 2: How do we deal? Well, you know, we like we
- 2:27:18Speaker 2: just have to endure. I don't know.
- 2:27:20Speaker 3: But ultimately, like any relationship is risk, and if you
- 2:27:29Speaker 3: cannot see yourself in terms of your actions, then any
- 2:27:33Speaker 3: risk is going to be terrifying because in order to
- 2:27:36Speaker 3: manage risk, you have to look at you have to
- 2:27:39Speaker 3: look at the situation and say, I can take action
- 2:27:43Speaker 3: to mediate the risk, right, And if you haven't developed that,
- 2:27:48Speaker 3: then you aren't going to be able to manage a relationship.
- 2:27:52Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even imagine her in a relationship
- 2:27:55Speaker 3: with the only man who could possibly measure up to
- 2:27:58Speaker 3: all of her qualifications, which is a Saudi prince. You
- 2:28:01Speaker 3: realize once you get flew out to Dubai, you're totally
- 2:28:04Speaker 3: like you're at his mercy. That's you know, I mean,
- 2:28:08Speaker 3: if you have a man who can actually live up
- 2:28:12Speaker 3: to all of spoilt girly like Manifestel's spoilt girly demands,
- 2:28:17Speaker 3: you are completely at his mercy, like even more than
- 2:28:22Speaker 3: egg apron ballerina of trad wife like at the very
- 2:28:28Speaker 3: least she has the ability to work gathering eggs. What
- 2:28:32Speaker 3: do you do when you're a spoiled girly You are
- 2:28:35Speaker 3: a complete and utter deficit. You have nothing to fall
- 2:28:39Speaker 3: back on, nothing, no skills whatsoever. So how she can say, oh,
- 2:28:46Speaker 3: men are risk and then just go into a situation
- 2:28:49Speaker 3: where she's basically maximized that risk and is counseling every
- 2:28:52Speaker 3: other woman to do so. Obviously she doesn't think they're
- 2:28:55Speaker 3: that much of a risk. That's what she intends, And yeah,
- 2:29:01Speaker 3: says the woman who says that she should do nothing,
- 2:29:04Speaker 3: including not even be in a relationship with a man,
- 2:29:07Speaker 3: like literally, if you think that every aspect of being
- 2:29:10Speaker 3: in a relationship with a man is emotional labor like,
- 2:29:15Speaker 3: then then there, and you obviously don't important like you
- 2:29:19Speaker 3: don't cause any emotional labor on him in the relationship,
- 2:29:23Speaker 3: then you're not in a relationship. What you're looking for
- 2:29:27Speaker 3: is like I said, if not the Saudi Prince, then
- 2:29:29Speaker 3: you're looking forward to being in the relationship with the
- 2:29:31Speaker 3: Holy Ghost and the Star Trek Replicator. Just give you everything,
- 2:29:35Speaker 3: do everything for you, manifest everything for you, and not
- 2:29:38Speaker 3: exist as an individual person in your life at all. Okay, Well,
- 2:29:44Speaker 3: that is a that is a level of attainment that
- 2:29:49Speaker 3: is one hundred percent impossible. And we can see if
- 2:29:53Speaker 3: women aim for crap like that, why the numbers of
- 2:29:57Speaker 3: single women is increasing exponentially, Why men are simply saying, yeah, no,
- 2:30:01Speaker 3: you're not worth it, and why women now suffer like
- 2:30:05Speaker 3: women suffer the greatest rates of chronic loneliness.
- 2:30:09Speaker 4: Right.
- 2:30:10Speaker 3: You know, I've heard so much about the loneliness crisis
- 2:30:14Speaker 3: among men, right, And I've also heard so many women saying, well,
- 2:30:18Speaker 3: they deserve it, you know, go kill he'll kill yourselves whatever.
- 2:30:21Speaker 3: You just you aren't able to measure up, so you don't.
- 2:30:25Speaker 3: And yet here's the problem, ladies. A man without a
- 2:30:30Speaker 3: woman is also a woman without a man, And Apparently
- 2:30:33Speaker 3: you guys are suffering a greater rate of chronic loneliness,
- 2:30:36Speaker 3: so you might want to consider the whole rhetoric around
- 2:30:39Speaker 3: oh lonely men. Just yeah, just just just un alive yourselves.
- 2:30:43Speaker 3: That's all the problem. And I've seen that it's horrible. Okay,
- 2:30:49Speaker 3: that was really funny like that.
- 2:30:50Speaker 2: Can we see can we see watch it again?
- 2:30:53Speaker 3: Yeah, let's watch it again, because this is this is
- 2:30:55Speaker 3: this sort of this sort of captures captures like some
- 2:30:59Speaker 3: of the best.
- 2:31:00Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go back. I like the hood
- 2:31:03Speaker 2: voice over. I've seen this cartoon countless times because I
- 2:31:06Speaker 2: grew up on Tom and Jerry. But okay, let's let's
- 2:31:09Speaker 2: do it again.
- 2:31:16Speaker 8: Look how cool this nigga Tom is though this nigga
- 2:31:18Speaker 8: game is so cold. Look, boom bang, throw a little
- 2:31:21Speaker 8: small boot on the counter.
- 2:31:22Speaker 5: Boom, pop the hat.
- 2:31:24Speaker 2: What's up?
- 2:31:24Speaker 5: You're gonna smoke the seed?
- 2:31:26Speaker 8: Roll it in one hand, clip it, leave it open,
- 2:31:28Speaker 8: let the mouse leak it. Come here, bitch and boom,
- 2:31:33Speaker 8: throw it in the air, pop it with the fire.
- 2:31:37Speaker 8: One poliga, that motherfucker bone.
- 2:31:39Speaker 2: I'm done with it. How bit hoty bitch, one pool nigga,
- 2:31:51Speaker 2: I'm done with it.
- 2:31:52Speaker 3: Oh did he succeed in the end, No, of course not.
- 2:31:57Speaker 2: That's Tom and Jerry. That's that's the beginning. Well, no,
- 2:32:01Speaker 2: that wasn't a hard r and I I you know,
- 2:32:04Speaker 2: I could say it and he could say it too.
- 2:32:06Speaker 2: The voice was obviously a brother, so that was okay.
- 2:32:12Speaker 2: It's on YouTube, that's where.
- 2:32:16Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, all right, So we are doing like,
- 2:32:21Speaker 3: let's me, let's do the things, because I think it's
- 2:32:23Speaker 3: good to just down there with.
- 2:32:24Speaker 2: The yeah yeah, yeah, let's just leave it with the
- 2:32:26Speaker 2: howdy yeah.
- 2:32:28Speaker 3: You know, if Tom would not have to do that
- 2:32:31Speaker 3: much effort because because female cats, they they they make
- 2:32:37Speaker 3: their desires known, shall.
- 2:32:38Speaker 2: We say, yeah, yeah.
- 2:32:40Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyway, he wouldn't have to make that much up.
- 2:32:45Speaker 2: You just have to know how to roll a cigarette
- 2:32:47Speaker 2: in one hand, like with your just two fingers. Get you,
- 2:32:51Speaker 2: get you a mouse and get him to lick it
- 2:32:53Speaker 2: for you, and then throw it up in the air
- 2:32:55Speaker 2: and shoot it with a gun and catch it and
- 2:32:58Speaker 2: then do one pull and that's it. You're done. Blow
- 2:33:01Speaker 2: out some words forget about it anyway.
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- 2:34:54Speaker 5: You, Brian.
- 2:34:55Speaker 2: All right, well before I end the show here, do
- 2:34:57Speaker 2: we have any thank yous to give for the fundraiser?
- 2:35:01Speaker 2: Because I can't look at them. I don't know if
- 2:35:02Speaker 2: that's Alison. Oh your audio cutout again? Allison, Allison, I
- 2:35:11Speaker 2: can't hear you if you're talking? You could your audio
- 2:35:13Speaker 2: cut out? Uh not? Kind of came back and then
- 2:35:17Speaker 2: it just smeared again.
- 2:35:19Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
- 2:35:19Speaker 1: Now?
- 2:35:20Speaker 2: There you go? Yeah, I can hear.
- 2:35:21Speaker 3: Okay, I just have to switch between the various audio inputs.
- 2:35:25Speaker 3: I I'm not sure what's going on in my again,
- 2:35:28Speaker 3: I probably will just oh okay, yep, so we do
- 2:35:31Speaker 3: have to thank Richard Bierre put in a thousand bucks.
- 2:35:35Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know if I have a sound
- 2:35:37Speaker 2: that's worthy of that. I guess he's just you're not
- 2:35:42Speaker 2: than you.
- 2:35:42Speaker 3: I guess I'm going a little further than you are.
- 2:35:44Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fucking better than you.
- 2:35:46Speaker 5: Okay, much better than you.
- 2:35:48Speaker 3: You are garbage?
- 2:35:51Speaker 2: Do you want? You want the other one?
- 2:35:53Speaker 3: Okay, I'm I'm I'm here we go. Here's the instant
- 2:35:58Speaker 3: sound effects. I don't know if you guys can hear this.
- 2:36:02Speaker 2: You're talking about the Wayne's World. We're not worthy. I
- 2:36:07Speaker 2: got that one somewhere. It's gotta find it. H la la, Yeah,
- 2:36:13Speaker 2: I do. I do have that. I just got to
- 2:36:15Speaker 2: find it. I don't know where it is.
- 2:36:18Speaker 3: I got I got it right here. It's on a button.
- 2:36:20Speaker 3: But I don't know if you can actually hear this
- 2:36:22Speaker 3: play it?
- 2:36:23Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but well I will look in the meantime.
- 2:36:30Speaker 2: I hear it. Yeah, but it's not very oop. Sorry,
- 2:36:33Speaker 2: that was wrong. I do have it. I do have it,
- 2:36:38Speaker 2: I just don't know where it is. I have a
- 2:36:40Speaker 2: lot of folder right now. No, no, I have it.
- 2:36:45Speaker 2: If I if you send it to me, it's not
- 2:36:46Speaker 2: really gonna help, but it doesn't matter. Okay, Yeah, thank you,
- 2:36:50Speaker 2: Richard Pierre. I got one more you might like. So
- 2:36:53Speaker 2: let's let's just uh try this one. Clean up your room. Okay.
- 2:37:01Speaker 2: So that was or the women were still viewed as
- 2:37:04Speaker 2: chattel there, I gave you three. Okay, don't that's it, don't.
- 2:37:08Speaker 4: Uh.
- 2:37:09Speaker 3: And we also did more Manifesto here.
- 2:37:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did do more Manifesto.
- 2:37:16Speaker 3: So basically what happened was Richard sponsored the topic of
- 2:37:20Speaker 3: the show. He's particularly fond of manifestol. I think it's
- 2:37:23Speaker 3: because I hate it. I hate her. It's the sadd
- 2:37:29Speaker 3: asm hour with the badger patience. Okay, all right, so
- 2:37:33Speaker 3: thanks again, and yeah, take it out, Brian.
- 2:37:36Speaker 2: I think we call them spinsters. All right. Well, thank
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- 2:38:14Speaker 9: Yes are machines, dude, Okay, they are literal machines. They
- 2:38:20Speaker 9: are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking deal with,
- 2:38:24Speaker 9: especially if you have like especially if you have like
- 2:38:26Speaker 9: a couple of dudes who have good memory. On top
- 2:38:28Speaker 9: of that too, Holy shit, you're fucked