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TMCP Ep 20: Bobby Hitz Exclusive, Berlanga vs Sheeraz, Shakur vs Zepeda and More! · The Mixed Company Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In this corner standing it six foot five, weight class
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  Speaker 1: unknown hailing from Sin City, Las Vegas, Jamison Welch And
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  Speaker 1: in this corner standing it five foot nine, Wayne Town
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  Speaker 1: with six wins.
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  Speaker 2: Three losses, two arrests, four late.
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  Speaker 1: Payments on student loans and two total painkruptcies hits the
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  Speaker 1: Classy I'll go high.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to another edition of the Mixed Company Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, as always I'm one eros Jamison Wells, and
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  Speaker 4: as usual I'm joining my d classy alcoholic classic.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, man, Jamison? I am so excited right
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  Speaker 2: now because we have a very special episode for y'all today.
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  Speaker 2: We have another guest on the program, a man who
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  Speaker 2: is not just a boxing promoter, but a former professional
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  Speaker 2: fighter himself. I'm so excited to talk to this guy,
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  Speaker 2: so let's not waste any time. Let's welcome to the ring,
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  Speaker 2: mister Bobby Hits. Bobby Welcome, Hi, guys, how are you fantastic?
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  Speaker 4: Fantastic?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I really appreciate you being here and got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of questions for you. But first things first,
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  Speaker 2: you're here to promote a fighting event, a showcase. This Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: July nineteenth, Bridgeview Illinois. Can you give us a little
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  Speaker 2: preview of this event, what kind of fights, how many
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  Speaker 2: fights we would expect, any names we should be keeping
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  Speaker 2: an eye out for it. Please let us know all
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  Speaker 2: about this.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this is one of our series of fights.
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  Speaker 3: We just started working with the hard Rock Casino here
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  Speaker 3: in Rockford, Illinois. So I called this the hard Rock
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  Speaker 3: Fight Series because they are one of our title sponsors
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  Speaker 3: of the event. And this is just a great show,
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  Speaker 3: good local flavor with some you know. I have the
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  Speaker 3: heavyweight Deontay Pettigrew, number seven in the world and the
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  Speaker 3: WBA expecting big things out of him. Marlon Harrington from Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: On the comeback trail. You have Hunter Lee, who is
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  Speaker 3: part of the brand new Kronk Stable, who the branding
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  Speaker 3: is fantastic being part of Kronc. If you're a boxing fan,
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  Speaker 3: Kronk was all the rage and it's gonna be back again,
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  Speaker 3: and so I hope the least part of that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Eddie Ala Veriz, Lucas Moldenauer, Local Chicago kids, Lane Lane Hamlin,
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  Speaker 3: Tellia Halverson, Jonathan Cruz, Demetrius Green. This is a stacked card.
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  Speaker 3: It is it. We're gonna have twelve thirteen fights. It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be in a stravaganza. I'm just crossing my fingers
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  Speaker 3: that the rain holds out. This is an outdoor event
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  Speaker 3: and a beautiful soccer stadium where the Chicago Fire played.
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  Speaker 3: It was our professional soccer team here. But if we
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  Speaker 3: have to move, and we'll move it inside to the
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  Speaker 3: dome and the show must go on. So we're still
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  Speaker 3: in business. We're good.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Got to have a backup plan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So for those of you who don't know you, you
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  Speaker 2: know you're a Chicago promoter, Chicago based promoter. I went
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  Speaker 2: there once many long time ago. I got to get back.
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  Speaker 2: But what's the fight culture out there like in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all we hear is New York and Vegas,
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  Speaker 2: New York and Vegas. What is what does Chicago bring
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  Speaker 2: to the table.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Chicago is under the radar, so to speak,
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  Speaker 3: and I like being that way. I don't like being
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  Speaker 3: in the spotlight. I don't like all eyes on you
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  Speaker 3: because it's a bigger it's a bigger risk for the fighters.
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  Speaker 3: And right now we're in a redevelopment stage. We're gonna rebuild.
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  Speaker 3: It's like having a professional sports team you know you
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  Speaker 3: you have a nice run. I've had a great run.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this over thirty years. I've had many
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  Speaker 3: guys fight for world titles, regional titles, top ten, like like,
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  Speaker 3: I've run the gamut. Every single base has been covered
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  Speaker 3: as far as far as I have accomplished in boxing,
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  Speaker 3: except winning a world title, a real world title, which
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  Speaker 3: that's the only thing missing. But as far as building guys,
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  Speaker 3: getting him raided, getting him to a title, getting to
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  Speaker 3: the next level, we've done all that so right now,
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  Speaker 3: and it's really post COVID, because you know, COVID, we
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  Speaker 3: lost almost three years of business and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: guys who were part of the roster have just fallen off,
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  Speaker 3: turned off the boxing, and at the phenomenon nowadays, the
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  Speaker 3: guys have seven, eight, nine fights and they just decided
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  Speaker 3: to quit. It's too much for them. So the days
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  Speaker 3: of having the guys that have fifteen, eighteen, twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: five fights here in Chicago, that's you got a better
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  Speaker 3: chance to see him Bigfoot. But we're developing that. We're
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  Speaker 3: developing that again and bringing this new crop of talent.
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  Speaker 3: So all the folks I mentioned earlier are all part
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  Speaker 3: of the rebuild, and like I tell these these fighters, listen,
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  Speaker 3: Chicago's dying for a superstar. Is it going to be you?
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  Speaker 3: You know, so Chicago's wide open for one of these
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  Speaker 3: kids to step up and take the mantle.
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  Speaker 2: Now we've heard a couple of times from different people,
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  Speaker 2: other guests that yeah, after COVID, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: things fell off. And I'm not even saying asking this
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  Speaker 2: as a joke. You think because everybody was inside and
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  Speaker 2: nobody was working out, everybody just started eating and you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of not taking care of themselves. Is that part
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  Speaker 2: of it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, being a fighter is a lot
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  Speaker 3: about discipline. It's a lot about you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: doing the right things. And I think when you have
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  Speaker 3: all that free time, I even know myself, My god,
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  Speaker 3: COVID was the best thing that ever happened to me
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  Speaker 3: because I finally in my whole entire life got like
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  Speaker 3: a three year vacation. It was fantastic. I had. I
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  Speaker 3: had a blast during COVID. It was fantastic. But your
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  Speaker 3: eye gets off of work, Like to me, I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like I'd wake up every day like what day is it?
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  Speaker 3: What do I have to do? Absolutely nothing? You know,
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  Speaker 3: and we'd hang out all day long. The camaraderie between
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  Speaker 3: me and my pals were just it was fantastic. It
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  Speaker 3: was a it was it was an extensive spring break,
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  Speaker 3: so to speak, for three years. But as a fighter,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine not having anything to do. So I
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  Speaker 3: think once it happens and you become a little I
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  Speaker 3: guess the word civilized like you know, wow, there's you know,
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  Speaker 3: like like wow, it feels good not to get up
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  Speaker 3: and have to go to the gym and have to
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  Speaker 3: spar and then then your whole life takes out a
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  Speaker 3: different connotation. So it's like, I think COVID did a
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  Speaker 3: lot of a lot of not good things for a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people as far as business wise and mindset
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  Speaker 3: and whatnot, because I think people became very complacent.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely, Yeah, it's a weird time for all of us.
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  Speaker 2: For myself, first, of course, I got very, very very fat,
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  Speaker 2: but then it was too much and so I got
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  Speaker 2: into boxing classes at that time actually after COVID, so
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  Speaker 2: I started to going to the gym doing sparring and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: So but it didn't work the same for everybody. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: but right, So, so you're you're a professional fighter, and
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to see just some thoughts on your career overall.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think you know, you've fought in the eighties,
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  Speaker 2: Uh was it fun or what?
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  Speaker 4: Because was a job?
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe it wasn't as fun it was too
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  Speaker 2: focused because like I said, my boxing lessons were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun, but I wasn't competing. I was just
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  Speaker 2: farring with friends.
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  Speaker 3: It was an absolute blast. It was the easiest thing
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  Speaker 3: I ever did in my life compared to my life now.
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  Speaker 3: If I could go back and do it all over again,
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  Speaker 3: trust me, I'd have a do over tomorrow. I only
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  Speaker 3: had three amateur fights and I turned pro, so I
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  Speaker 3: learned on the job, which back then was a little
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  Speaker 3: bit easier to do. But I said to myself, listen,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to give myself at least three or
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  Speaker 3: four losses before like I know my way around the
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  Speaker 3: ring because I only had three amateur fights, so I
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  Speaker 3: had no experience. Everything that I did in the ring
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  Speaker 3: was brand new. So but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The
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  Speaker 3: friendships I made in the relationships last to today. And
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  Speaker 3: it was fun, Like I really enjoyed it. It got
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  Speaker 3: serios is, but even the seriousness was fun because I
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  Speaker 3: just really enjoyed fighting and doing what I do now.
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  Speaker 3: Being a fighter was way easier if I had to
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  Speaker 3: compare the two.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me, that's very interesting to hear from, you know,
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  Speaker 2: an insider's perspective, And I appreciate you talking about taking
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  Speaker 2: losses and having to do that to learn, because a
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  Speaker 2: lot of folks I think might be afraid to lose
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  Speaker 2: these days, they don't take as many risks. That's my opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Listen. You can't win unless you know how to lose,
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  Speaker 3: because when you lose, if you take something away and
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  Speaker 3: learn something, you actually won. And so you know, I
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  Speaker 3: never I never got all caught up on all that
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  Speaker 3: because to me, the goal I was setting myself on
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  Speaker 3: what was to you know, fight for a time, whatever
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  Speaker 3: the case may be. Like I didn't have I didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have a end game in my mind, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I want to be a world champion. I want to
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  Speaker 3: see how far I could take it with as little
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  Speaker 3: experience as I so to me, you know, listen, I
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  Speaker 3: I you know Jackie Callen, I was her first fighter,
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  Speaker 3: and then James Tony joined our stable and I got
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  Speaker 3: to be part of his whole rise to fame. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, the night he beat Michael Nunn, I was
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  Speaker 3: in his corner and like so to me, like I
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  Speaker 3: got my Harvard education in boxing in that that time period.
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  Speaker 3: So it was the greatest thing that ever happened to
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  Speaker 3: me because I got to use that in my business
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  Speaker 3: life now as a promoter. So it was it was
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  Speaker 3: a well, a well valued run for me. Great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have a ton more questions, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to monopolize the conversation. Jamison, please jump in. You
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  Speaker 2: got any questions for a guest?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So you mentioned that what you do now is
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  Speaker 4: a lot more challenging than than boxing. What are some
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  Speaker 4: of those challenges that you come against as being a promoter,
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  Speaker 4: especially in this day and age.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is making real fights, getting these
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  Speaker 3: fighters to convince them that they have to have real fights,
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  Speaker 3: because I tell them it's about building credibility. And a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these guys they just do not want to.
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  Speaker 3: They do just don't want to do the heavy lifting
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  Speaker 3: and you know, or fight a local guy or whatever
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  Speaker 3: the case may be. It's just I don't know. To me,
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  Speaker 3: that's the hardest part making good fights, because my goal
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  Speaker 3: every time out is to make good fights, make good
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  Speaker 3: competitive fights. And when I can't make that for the
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  Speaker 3: silliest of reasons, it's really troublesome to me. It's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of like brain damage for no reason, Like my god,
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, you could lead a horse to water,
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  Speaker 3: you can't make him drink it. Well, these a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these guys just they have this idea and I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot of it comes from the buying a
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  Speaker 3: fight syndrome. I can't tee how many phone calls I
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  Speaker 3: get saying how much have to buy a fight on
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  Speaker 3: your show? I'm like, I don't do that. So you
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  Speaker 3: have these guys that call themselves promoters and literally have
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  Speaker 3: guys buy on pay what's called the slap fee and
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  Speaker 3: all this stuff. Like to me, you know, when I
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  Speaker 3: started doing this, that was the exception, not the rule.
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  Speaker 3: But now these kids will go and go fly to
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  Speaker 3: these third world countries and pick up these fights and
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  Speaker 3: everybody can tell what they're doing. And the problem now
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  Speaker 3: is there's too much information. You can't bullshit the public.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot build your record against these guys and actually
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  Speaker 3: believe that they're going to believe it because the minute
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  Speaker 3: someone hears your fighting, they jump on the internet and
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  Speaker 3: they pull them right away. They can see what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: So you can't fool these people. And to me, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do that. I don't you know, Like
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  Speaker 3: to me, if you're gonna be a fighter, be a fighter,
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  Speaker 3: if you're gonna put in all that heavy work and
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  Speaker 3: do all that stuff that you do to be a
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  Speaker 3: fighter and train every day, then put that to test, like,
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  Speaker 3: see what you're made of. There's no listen. I'd rather
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  Speaker 3: you fail trying than not try it all. When I
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  Speaker 3: got guys that literally will call me and say I
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  Speaker 3: want to fight a bum, I don't like that term.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, there's no such thing as a bum,
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  Speaker 3: because anybody that climbs those steps, it just means someone's
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  Speaker 3: better than someone else. But to say the word bum,
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  Speaker 3: if you climb those steps, to me, you're a winner
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  Speaker 3: in my eyes. There are guys that give less of
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  Speaker 3: an effort. I get that those are I have another
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  Speaker 3: word for them. I won't use it, but but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think if you're a fighter who trains hard and
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  Speaker 3: does everything you're supposed to do, and then you don't
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  Speaker 3: put that to work, you know, like Sonny, like they
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  Speaker 3: said in the Bronx, till waste the talent, Like why
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  Speaker 3: do all that if you're not going to put it
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  Speaker 3: to the test to see where you're at, So waste
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  Speaker 3: everybody's time, you know. So that's those That's one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that's really problematic. Another thing is guy's idea
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  Speaker 3: about how things go. Like they'll tell you when they
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  Speaker 3: want to fly in where like where they want to go.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. Like I'm hosting this party,
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  Speaker 3: you're my guest, I'm bringing you in, and here's how
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do things. It's just it's just crazy,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And it comes from being directionalists by the
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  Speaker 3: people who are around you, because you know, I came
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  Speaker 3: from an era being around the great Emmanuel Stewart and
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  Speaker 3: the great trainers here in Angelo de d and Patlakasa,
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  Speaker 3: all these different people right who literally kept kept the
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  Speaker 3: fighters in in in the corral kind of like you're
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  Speaker 3: a fighter that you're supposed to do and let the
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  Speaker 3: business people do the business. But now the fighters all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden all want to do the business. And
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  Speaker 3: to me, you can't be all things, all people, all
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  Speaker 3: the time something's going to give. If you're a fighter,
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  Speaker 3: surround yourself with good quality people. Let everybody do their
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  Speaker 3: job and you do your job. But when they want
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  Speaker 3: to start doing everybody's job, it creates mass confusion and
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  Speaker 3: it's like it's a recipe for disaster. It just this.
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  Speaker 3: It's difficult.
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  Speaker 2: So you said you've been doing this for thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: Is that something you say it was more recent or
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  Speaker 2: has it always been like that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's more recent. It was never like that.
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  Speaker 3: This is more recent. Like I wouldn't have lasted thirty years.
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  Speaker 3: If I had to start today, I would start and
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  Speaker 3: finish in one day. I'd be done. Anybody that says
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  Speaker 3: they want to be a promoter, I go, what are
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  Speaker 3: you met at? Your money? Like, why do you want
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  Speaker 3: to do this? Well, they're like they're like, well you're
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  Speaker 3: doing it. I have no choice. I'm over thirty years
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  Speaker 3: on the business and I'm stuck. You have other choices.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do it, Go buy a building, go do something else.
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  Speaker 3: You do not want to do this. It's a it's
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  Speaker 3: a thankless job because the promoter is always the bad guy.
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  Speaker 3: The promoter is the guy that's always I love these
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  Speaker 3: guys when they're turning pro and you go to make
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  Speaker 3: a deal to sign them and they say, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be taking advantage of it, and I just
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  Speaker 3: laughed taking advantage and I go, let me ask you
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  Speaker 3: a questions, son, you're a nice kid. How much money
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  Speaker 3: do you have in your pocket? I got two dollars
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  Speaker 3: and thirty seven cents, okay? And where do you live
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  Speaker 3: with my mom and dad? And what kind of car
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  Speaker 3: do you drive? Why drive my dad's car? And okay,
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  Speaker 3: Well that's all fine and Danny, because that's how it
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  Speaker 3: should be when you're a young kid. You that I
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  Speaker 3: could take advantage of you, for the only guy that
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  Speaker 3: could be taking advantage of is me. So there's nothing
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  Speaker 3: I can take advantage of you for. You don't have anything.
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  Speaker 3: But if the day comes or I can take advantage
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  Speaker 3: of you, We're all gonna hop in my car, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna go to church and we're gonna say a prayer,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll go, why is it? Because that means you
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  Speaker 3: became something. So like, let's hope for that day and
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  Speaker 3: then we'll worry about that at the time. But there's
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  Speaker 3: not a thing that I could do to take advantage
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  Speaker 3: of you because I need you to win. If you win,
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  Speaker 3: you're in So like, why would I take you on,
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  Speaker 3: attempt to build you and then not want what's best
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  Speaker 3: for you. So like, just the promoter always gets the
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  Speaker 3: bad name when it's really a lot of times it's
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  Speaker 3: the fighter. People don't want to believe that the fighter
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  Speaker 3: can be the bad person, but they one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: can be. I've been victim to it many times, and
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  Speaker 3: I can honestly say there's never been a fighter that's
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  Speaker 3: been with me that hasn't gotten paid, hasn't gotten everything
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  Speaker 3: they have coming to them, that I've gone over and
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  Speaker 3: above to take care of them. And I could probably
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  Speaker 3: probably say the deads of gods out of the truth
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  Speaker 3: because my integrity to me means more than anything. So so,
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  Speaker 3: there are some unscrupulous people in this business, and I
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  Speaker 3: get why people are larry, but Bobby Hits isn't one
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  Speaker 3: of them. So when I could both, I could boldly
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  Speaker 3: say that.
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  Speaker 4: Now, with all that being said, what are some of
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  Speaker 4: the craziest things you've had to go through as a promoter?
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned you've been in the game so long. You're
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  Speaker 4: dealing with boxers, dealing with trainers, You're dealing with agents.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: What are some of the crazier things that the public
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: necessarily wouldn't know about? How five gets made some of
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: the crazier stories, but some of the things that are
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: kind of regular in your line of business that you're
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: allowed to say certain things, I know you're probably not
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: allowed to say.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I I think, you know, I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: just just just the the being uninformed about how business
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: actually works and kind of subscribing to the Floyd Mayweather
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: way of doing things, and fighters want to follow that
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: same path, which is nice to want to be a
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: world champion, but let's face it to me, I'm not
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: a fan of his. I don't think think I think
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: what Floyd did was great for Floyd, but I don't
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: think anybody should want to mimic that because you're not
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Floyd Mayweather. It worked for him. Let him be him.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: But you know, like listen, we all have our favorite singers,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: we have our favorite baseball player, whatever it might be.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, we still have
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to stay true to who we are. And when you
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: lose sight of that, you know. So, I mean, there's
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff that happens every day. Expectations like I can't
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: even you know. I had a manager one time who
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I was trying to make a fight for their fighter,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: and it was a kid's mom was his manager, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I literally offered them ten fights that they said no to,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: every single fight, And I'm like, like, this isn't like
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I don't have a factory where I called back to
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: my warehouse and go, hey, Joe, go to aisle ten shell, fourteen,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: six to the left and one on top. Give me
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: that guy that's undefeated, good looking, has a great record,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: can't punch and can't take a punch. Give me that guy.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't work like that, you know. And so
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: when when I finally offered them the eleventh guy, I'm like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: this guy has to be the guy. Imagine that eleven
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: fighters you went through and you couldn't say yes to
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: any of them, Like like that's crazy. And I said,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: why are you not taking this guy? Why am I
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: not taking him? They go, did you hear his interview?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I go, well, what did you hear his interview? Did
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I hear his interview? I go, this isn't a debate,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: it's a fight. The guy's a good speaker, God bless him,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: but you're not debating him. You're fighting him. What does
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the interview have to do with you taking the fight?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, he did not without fighting him.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So like the silliness of stuff like that, you know.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I remember one time at one of my weigh ins. Uh.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: This was early on, and you know, early on in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: my career as a promoter, we had canceled the fight
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: like two weeks earlier because the guy who was fighting
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: got hurt, was sick or something. The fight got canceled. Well,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: the guy showed up, and this guy was a former contender,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: fought for a world title, and he came in trying
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: to shake me down to pay him still, and I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: doing my book working on and I was married at
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the time. My wife said, he says, hey, let him
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: do his stuff. He'll talk to him in and he said,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: shut up, woman, this is a man's business. Mind your
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: fucking business to my wife, right, and she was pregnant
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: at the time. So he starts walking towards her very aggressively. Well,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I jumped up and left hook this guy right at
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the way and bow my left hook him knocked him
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: out cold at the wig And and this guy just
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: fought for a world title you know, and I had
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: been retired for I don't know, four or five years
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: at a time, like, wow, I still got it, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I mean that guy. But it's like the commission was
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: there and they're like, I can't believe you did that.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: It's always gonna take my wife. And the one commissioner
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: said to me, I used to like you, now I
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: love you. It's about time someone stood up to these
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: guys when they try to bully everybody. I go, well,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: it just wasn't right what he was gonna do to
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: my wife me. I could care less about me. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: would have worked it out with a guy, but I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: felt so bad I invited them to Thanksgiving dinner, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the next to the next day, the next week, so
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I f I invited him to my house for Thanksgiving dinner.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: So you know, that was that was crazy. They have
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to have. But like these sometimes they push you to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the limit. You know, when I want to start getting
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: aggressive with women, you can't do that. It's not right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: There's an age old that talk shit, get hit right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So so Bobby, you know, I didn't want to talk
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: about your professional career a little bit more. I hope
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you're not sick of talking about this, but yes, you
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: did fight George Foreman in nineteen eighty eight, and I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: asked some questions about that. Uh, this was George's come back,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: a year and two his comeback. What was the general
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: perception of him at that time? Is it was he
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: still very or was it this old guy like he's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: got nothing? What was the vibe at the time when
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you fought him?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it was Well, first of all, gotta remember
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I was a young kid. I was maybe twenty three
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: maybe or something, so to me, he was old, right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: But ye, but you have the idea that like fighters
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: weren't coming back at that age. I mean, guys were
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: retiring at twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight years old, right.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I think when I fought him, he was like thirty
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: six years old, which is a young guy. He was
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: thirty six or thirty eight, which is still young. I mean,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: right now, forty is the new twenty as a fighter, right,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: fighters fighters are fighting well into their forties and being
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: very competitive. But it was an anomaly back then, so
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: no one like really figured out me. I took the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: fight on four days notice. I was supposed to fight
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: him three other times, and every time they pushed me
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: out of the fight and put someone else in. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: he I was supposed to be his very first fight
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: of his comeback. The fight was gonna be in France.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Something happened. They moved over here. By that time, it
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: moved over here to the Arco Arena in Sacramento, California.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He took on Steve Szowski. They had pushed me out
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and put Steve in the fight, but I had already
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: been training like six months, so they didn't want any
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: part of me. And so like that happened three other times. Well,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the fourth time, I literally, you know, was come off
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: a hand injury. I was hanging out in a nightclub,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: like the last thing I was thinking about was fighting,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: and I went and checked my messages and my trainers like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: let me a message on my recorder saying meet me
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: at the airport tomorrow. We got the form and fight
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: and I was I was dead broke, and they offered
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: me lifetime type money and it was like, okay, let's go,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: you know, like I didn't. I didn't believe that I
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: would have anything to worry about. And this is an
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: old guy, right, Well, I learned real quick what old
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: is right, and so when they say youth is waistedunded young,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: it held true to me. But out of that fight
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of great, tremendous things happened, and so I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: was very you know, I formed a great friendship with
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: him after the fight, him his corner which was Archie
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Moore and Ron sand Like, we all went out for dinner.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: It was great. We had a great time, and through
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: the years we would stay in touch, and I had
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: fighters fighting for world titles and he's doing the HBO
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: commentating and just very friendly his brother Roy. So when
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: he passed, it was very saddening to me because it
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: was like an end different era and him and I
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: will forever be connected to one another. And what that
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: fight against him did for me as a person opened
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: up a whole bunch of doors, which then trickled down
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and opened up a whole bunch of doors for a
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: lot of other people. So like me taking one bad
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: situation and almost kind of throwing myself on the sword
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: for the betterment of what I do now was basically
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: what is the takeaway. I don't like talking about it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I'm a winner. I don't like to lose. I'm not
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: happy about it. I don't I take no. You know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: when people talk to me about it, I really don't
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: like it, you know, but at the end of the day,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: let's face it, if I would have beat George Foreman,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you guys would have been enough to Bobby hits Grown.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Who'd want to do that?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: So so, you know, so like to me, like it
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: all happened the way it was supposed to for everybody.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: But you know, and uh, you know, Jerry Cooney's my
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: friend I love to death, And you know I told Jerry, Jerry,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: no difference between me and you against George's here was
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: what I go. I got up. You didn't, all right,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: he goes, you want to go ahead it again? Like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: so it's like, you know, to me, like you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: like we're all fighters, we're all brothers. And like about
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: two months ago, I got to be at an event
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: here in Chicago, and it was Jerry Cooney, Lou Savorice
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and myself and all of us at the Common Bonds.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: We all thought George Foreman. So it was kind of
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: neat to be that a lot of people like that
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: resonated with a lot of people because George is a legend,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and and and I gotta tell you like, his passing
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: really affected me. I was very sick and by it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And you know, because that was the last of the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: great heavyweights of that era. Larry Holmes is the last
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: guy left. But Larry Holmes was kind of on the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: tail end of what Muhammed Ali, Ken Norton, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Joe Frasier, and like, I was fortunate enough to meet
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and know all those men. So it's like, like, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: just feel so blessed what boxing has done for my life,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: in meeting my heroes, meeting my contemporaries, all those things
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: that you know, boxing has just done so much for
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: me that you know, those heavyweights will forever be legendary,
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and I was fortunate enough to call them friends, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: just great.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Well, apart from the boxing, you know, Jamis and I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: are and I were both born in eighty six, so
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I literally would have starved to death without the George
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: for mcgrill in college.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, well it would have been to Bobby Hits Grow.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the restaurant business also, so you
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: would have liked it if it was the Bobby Hits Grow.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: But who'd want to eat at that? Who's Bobby Hits
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Nobody but.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got one more topic to get to. But Jamison,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you got something you want to jump in with.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, with boxing entering a different era now where you
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: have a lot of outside money, non traditional people are
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: backing it now than ever before. Where do you see
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: boxing at going the next five or so years.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: You know, I've always been the tortoise in the hair,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and I've always been the tortoise, right, I've always just
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: done my own thing and blazed my own trails and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: worked with my own money and didn't have investors and
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: made good deals. And we do it the old fashioned way.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: We sell tickets and we just you know, we just
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: kind of grind it out, like I would be a
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: great farm system for one of those bigger guys who
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: like where I build guys. But at the end of
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: the day, like I've seen in my thirty plus years,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: seen a lot of multimillionaires come into boxing and become
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: one hundred ears when it's all said and done, this
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: is a thankless sport and it's expensive, and you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you know, to me as a promoter, I want to
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: see asses in the seats. It doesn't like like like
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I'm an old fashioned promolee. I'm grassroots, Like we're knocking doors,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: we're selling tickets hand to hand combat, you know, we're
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: hanging posters were social media and now that which with
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: social media, these kids have so much more than I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: had as a fighter. But when I was fighting, my
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: little group, we would easily sell six seven hundred tickets
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: amongst my my little following, you know. So I mean
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: to me, I wish I had a fighter that did that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: So I have to put a whole collection of guys
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to just make up what I did as a fighter,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you know. And so I can imagine what I could
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: have done with social media back then, because if I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: selling that many tickets in a day where social media
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: didn't exist, who knows. There was a guy here, Irish
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: John Collins. This guy would sell ten thousand seats like
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: he was a gigantic draw, you know, and you would
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: just say his name and people would go to the
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: box office. But he had his little band of workers,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: family and everybody. It was very grassroots, and I kind
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: of took the same approach as a fighter, and I had,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you know, I had one of my friends would literally
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: have the tickets and we go to our local establishments
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: and have bus trips out of there, and we we
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: would we'd bring a good following when I fought, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: you know that was that was heavy work back then.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: You know, nowadays you could touch so many more people
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: very easily that it's a wonder these kids don't sell
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: a thousand tickets apiece well with all the the people
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: they can reach very simply.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So totally pivoting to another topic. Seems that you're
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: an actor as well. You're been in a lot of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: TV shows, more most importantly the TV show South Side,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: which is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: in my life. That absolutely what what got you into that?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: How and why did you get into acting?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I started The first play I ever did was in
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: eighth grade, The Good It was a Good Man Charlie Brown.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I played Snoopy, and my friends and myself. The only
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: reason why we joined the play because you got to
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: get out of class. So our plan was we'll get
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: out of class, we'll go to these play practices, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: then when the play comes, we just won't do it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: We're not doing the play. So it got down to
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the eleventh hour, the plays about a week away and
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: we tell the teacher I don't think we can do this.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: We're not doing it. You guys have to you have
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: a commitment. The whole cast is counting on you. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: guys are the leads, because we got the leads in
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: the play and everything, well the other studies can do.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: And this teacher convinced us we had to stick with it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Well that was it. So then I really liked it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And then I had a rock and roll band in
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: high school, and you know, I raced motocross and like,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I was just kind of like having fun. Then, like
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Sophtmare in high school, I found boxing and that became
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: my thing. And then I got I was on a
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: couple of different TV shows, you know, in my late
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: teens early twenties, and then I got a wave making.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I was in the restaurant business and I was starting
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: to promote. I didn't have time to do it. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: then in two thousand and like ten, I got onto
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a series ten or twelve called Mob Doctor. I had
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: a reoccurring role with William Forsyth, and I really was
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: at the point of my life where I could afford
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: to be an actor. And I was worked with Michael Matson,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: who recently deceased, who became a good friend and William,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and I asked both guys, listen, what do you think
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: my path should be. Michael was like, listen, you're a natural,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: be yourself. There's a lot of roles for you. You'll do great. William,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: who's a well studied wall travel thesbian, He's like, listen,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: when you were a fighter, what did you do? I go,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I went to the gym every day bingoing this craft.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: You need to work on your craft all the time.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: So I hired an acting coach, and you know, it
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: was the best advice I ever took. And Michael gave
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: me great advice also. So when I ever get a role,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: to try to use both methods in implementing into the role.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: So tonight I have to actually go to a premiere
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: for a movie I just shot called Before Dallas, which
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: is about the Kennedy assassination, and it's it's about real people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Sam g and Connor, who was a Chicago mob guy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: My role is a guy named Milwaukee Phil Theorissio, who
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: is a Chicago mob other boss worked with Sam and
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: and our thing is it's set up the Kenny was
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: supposed to be killed here in Chicago, So I have
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I have, you know, a few nice scenes. Then I
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: have another script that was just sent to me that
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be working on in October of film So
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: and I've been on you know, like you said, Southside
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: to me, that was the most fun, the best show
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I ever did in my life. And I've been on
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff, but the cast of south Side
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: was awesome. They accepted me like amazing, and the directing
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: with all that was just it was like, here's your lines,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: but now just improv like do your thing like Ed liveds,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: do the say what's that like it? So we got
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: to just have fun with with the scenes. And so
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: literally they brought my character, they brought him back again,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: and then he was supposed to really be in like
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I was. I was earmarked to be in like maybe
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: three or four episodes of season, which was fine for me,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: and then that show got canceled. But what a great
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: group of people. It's so much fun. I really enjoyed
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that show a lot. That was fun and I was
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: looking forward to having more time on that show.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It was heartbreaking when it got canceled. It was it
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: was a very sad day for me because I absolutely
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: loved it, Like I said, but.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Those guys are talented and funny and they're just great.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just still be up on HBO Max for the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: listeners Southside on HBO Max. Check it out every season.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So it's not a huge commitment. But uh, and you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: on this show, we don't just talk about boxing news.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: We also do pop culture. Do you happen to have
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a favorite boxing movie or do you not watch it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: because you're so into the life.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You know, this man was a good friend of mine
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: with Jake Lamatta was a good friend of mine. So
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: one of my rituals before I fought was I would
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: watch The Raging Bull and Jake was literally true to that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: That was Jake Lamatta. I liked that movie. I liked
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: The Champ with John Voight. Somebody up there likes me.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: You know. They did a movie about about Jackie Kallen
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Against the Ropes with Omar Apps played James Tony character,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: but that character was made up of myself and James.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: That kind of implemented our situation. James had a much
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: bigger career than I, but they had given me a
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: role on there. But I'm like, no, I want this
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: type of ro if I can't have that role, and
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. But I'm like, hang on in
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: and I go. None of this would have happened without me,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you know. There's a backstory that you know, and we
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: laughed about it. But it's like that was also a
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: pretty good movie, but it wasn't accurate at all to
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: what really happened in our stable and on our team
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: between Jackie, James, myself, and the rest of the guys.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't real. And I think Hollywood did that movie
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: a great disservice because I think the really story, the
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: real story of Jackie was much better, much more. Uh,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: she was much more of a philanthropist that they didn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: that didn't come out. She really tried to help everybody.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: And as she did, and and and and I I
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: was the guinea pig for learning how to become such
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: a great manager, like I got all the bumps and bruises.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: So so it was great, but that movie didn't do
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: any justice. But there's a lot of good boxing movie
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: though it's okay, you know, they it all depends on
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: how they who who choreographs it, you know, like listen,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a Rocky fan, like Rocky, you know, so Rocky
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: one is very true to life. Rocky two, Rocky three,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: they got a little bit corner, but those the first
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: three were pretty pretty close to the life of a fighter.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Again, that's great to know from somebody who was who
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: is there on the inside. Jameson, We're gonna start wrapping
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: this up at Jameson.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Got something to add in here? Oh no, I'm good,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: he was right.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, one last quick thing before we let you
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: go to your premiere, Bobby. I also noticed in your
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: record you found a guy named Michael Tyson. Have you
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: ever said, yeah, I fought Tyson and then left it
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: at that a million times?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Well, that record's missing, that's missing five of my wins.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I was actually twenty one and four. But that's why
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you can't believe everything you read. But I used to
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: get denied fights because it said I beat and guys
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: wouldn't fight me because I beat Mike Tyson. It was
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: iowa Mike Tyson. But I've won a lot of bets
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: saying listen, I beat Mike Tyson and nobody believed me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: So so I've used it to my advantage. I'm still
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: making money on Mike Tyson's name.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Excellent. Well, we can't thank you enough for being here.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Just another plug for your event Saturday, July nineteen, twenty
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: twenty five. What is the name of it again?
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Sorry? Uh?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Well, this is called Boxing under the Stars, an evening
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: of phistic uh magic under the stars. But at my range,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: we're moving inside maybe I don't know so so we
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: have a plan B if we have to implement it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But this is Boxing under the Stars, a beautiful night
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in Chicago, hoping for and it'd be just a great
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: night to be in this venue. Fantastic. Yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: The tagline is boxing It's better live and I absolutely agree.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So if anybody wants tickets, go to Hits Boxing dot com.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: That's Hits with a Z, Hits boxing dot com. Bobby,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is there anywhere people who can follow you on social media?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Or how can we keep up with news for your
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: future events?
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I'm on my let's see Instagram, Bobby Hits, Bobby Hits Live. TikTok.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I don't, I haven't.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: I don't use it. I'm sixty two years old. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: don't use all Facebook. I'm on Facebook.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Well, and I'm on my Space. I'm on my Space.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Exactly live journal, you know, all the cool stuff from
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: back in the day. Bobby, We cannot thank you enough.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: This was an amazing time talking to you, and we
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: really appreciate your time here. Hopefully we can have you
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: back again so you can tell them.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Oh it was, it was so great.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know, and you're a very handsome man, Ali,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: you cover your face, You're very handsome. Yeah, it's like
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: seeing him without his without the mask on, was like
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: seeing the first time I saw a kiss without makeup.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, and yeah, well let you go,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: but hopefully we'll catch up with you against soon.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much to see you guys.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: All Right, we are back. That was an amazing interview.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: But we don't want to let you all go Jesse yet,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: because we've got to get some boxing news that happened
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: over over the weekend. Jamison, do you watch any boxing
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: this weekend? Anything interesting happens that you heard about it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I have to watch a guy lean back to watch
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: the pure fight. Uh, you know, she cares one of
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the guys where you know, he's one of the faces
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: of boxing going forward, like he's one of the younger
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: guys that has a high talent and it was a
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: very impressive night for him. And we're not taking to
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: the other guy just yet, but it was good to
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: see a guy that is built is being very good
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: kind of winning away. We haven't seen him win and
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: it's good to see that he can throw punches in
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: the Millville ring. He can trade without you know, he
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: showed a different type of fight this time around, which
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: was good to see. We'll see how the big fights
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: happened going forward. It was just good to see a nice,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: solid fight, even though he won decisively no matter how
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: you had it. So people had a ten to two,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: some people had at nine to three. No matter how
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: you sliced it. He won the fight. He was dominant,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: but it was it was a good contested fight, like
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: he got hit with some shots. By the end of
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: the day, he was victorious. And he moves on and
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: hopefully he fights a bigger name and we can get
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: a a mini mega fight with him and whoever else
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: it might be in the future.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to give you a shout out, Jamison
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: as usual. You know, you know, you know what you're
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: talking about because previous episode number nineteen. You said, you said,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I want to see Sugar be challenge, have to really
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: do something different, fight differently, adapt all of that, and
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: williams Cepeta over the weekend he you know, shout out
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: to him by the way. You know, yes, it was
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a pretty clear loss, but William Sieppeta has my respect.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: He put on a wonderful performance. The man did not
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: slow down, did not tire. He came to play. But
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: he really put shit Court through the ringer.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: He had to not just rely on sliding around, moving
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: away fighting like Zippeeda got him in the corner many times.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Chakor's defense had to be as best as ever been.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Sa Court showed a lot of power. Zipeta took all
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: those power shots with grace, and I think it's definitely
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: should Core's best performance. What I really think, I hope
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: rather is that this shuts up the haters, you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: because again I've been a Schkor fan, I've been a supporter,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and even I will admit that, you know, yeah, his
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: fights are not the most dynamic, exciting, energetic, especially the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Edwin Dillo Santos one.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: We talked about that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We're not going to rehash it. But yeah, you said
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: that you wanted to see. I think we saw exactly
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: what you wanted to see. Is that the case absolutely.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: When it comes to really good fighters, you want to
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: see if they can win in multiple ways, right, because
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: we all know everybody has a fastball, every fighter has
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: their strengths, but what do they do when they got
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: to win via plan bc AD. That's what makes a
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: great fire in my opinion, when you have to win
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: we don't have your best stuff, or when you have
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: to just on the fly, how do you do that?
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: That's always my thing. So it was good to see
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: him fighting a different element. It didn't look like he
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: was really challenged by the strength of the opposition. Didn't
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: feel that way. It didn't feel that way. Could be wrong,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: but it didn't feel like he was worried about the
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: powers beta. So that's just kind of how it goes.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: But it was just good to see him exchange a
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: little bit more than he has asked, take more chances
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: would also be the aggressor, like we haven't seen a
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: whole lot in the past, so it was definitely good
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: to see.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're definitely correct that he wasn't worried
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: about power, but I think he definitely got caught by
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Septa speed. Yes, it was moving fast and you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: known for being one of the best at hitting and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: not getting hit. Uh it, he got hit. He got
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: hit several times. There was that one. Oh I wish
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I remember which round, but it was one of the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: earlier ones.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Through a round.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: He got wobbled. He got hit in the chin, he
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: got wobbled. So you know, she Core is not not unbeatable.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: He's not invincible by any means.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: And paid out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Like I said, definitely put up a strong fight no
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: matter what. You know, I want to see z to
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: pay his next fight, win or lose. He's proven himself
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to be to be a yeah, definite contender. And I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: also will take some some credit here for being on
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: shikhors side even when people were talking shit, saying, you know,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: he's boring, he's he's over hyped, et cetera. I guess
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I kind of felt that the kid had this in him,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: had this kind of and you know, hope we see
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: it going forward. So Chaquor ends a beta, I'll be
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: there definitely for your next fight. The other thing that
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: happened this weekend, which is more hilarious than than anything
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: is Edgar Berlanga over hyped, burnout. Edgar from New York.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rican fighter from New York fought against Hems this
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: year as and Edinburgh. Langa talked a lot of shit.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You know, he's after his canial loss. Somehow he talked
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: even more shit because he didn't die. I don't know.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that reasoning was.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: But he got.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Knocked out in very clear and hilarious fashion on round five.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: After talking in interviews about how his chin, Bro, you
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: can't You've never seen a chin like this. I don't
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: care if I get hit with a bulldozer. I'm standing
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: up on my two feet.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: What did you think about this? The results of this fight?
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: One, it was funny, but two, it's very hard for
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: guys to fight at home. It's very hard, man, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think it would have changed. I'm not a
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: big fan of his in general, but it's just very
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: difficult to fight at home. There's a certain expectation you
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: have when you're at home that it's not the case
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: in other places. So but yeah, it was more hilarious
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: than anything for all the shit he talked previously, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: for that to happen, it was kind of wild, but
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: that's how it goes sometimes. But yeah, it's curse of
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Fat Joe. Fat Joe walked the Yankees out game through
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: the World Series last year. They lost on a way
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: of getting bounced in five games in the World Series.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: And of course he walked Berlanga out this past weekend.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: And you know, y'all saw him get leaned back. So yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: y'all see, Yeah, it's good.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I love the sports so much because it could be
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: very serious and tense and dramatic, but also it can
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: be hilarious, like like you said, just now, oh man,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Now you know, I'll admit I was a bit naive,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you know when Berlino was up and coming. I think
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he started when I noticed that he was fighting. It
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: was during the RONA because I remember some fights without crowds,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: and his whole thing was like, oh, fifteen first round knockouts,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: you know, in a row, like he just kept knocking
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: out guys, and I was like, Okay, well, you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I understand the hype machine, but hey, this guy's got
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: good power. You know, maybe with time and he develops
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the skills, but he might be a great fighter, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that kind of crashed and burned pretty quickly. I think
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I don't remember which fight I saw where I actually
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: went the distance and I was like, oh no, this
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: guy's definitely been overhyped and with any real competition, you
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: know he's going to be laid out. I don't think
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: he deserved the Canelo fight. It was. It was a
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: fun fight though. I had a good time, a lot
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: of energy, so I really enjoyed that fight. So I'm
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: not going to talk shit about the match itself, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: it goes to show that, you know, the biggest name
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: in boxing, le face of boxing, could not knock out
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Edgar Berlanga when hams Ashiers did in five rounds. That's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: another thing, not even like round eleven or twelve, that part.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: But also I'm always I'm always weary of guys that
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: are knockout artists, especially when they're not fighting any quality
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: fighters best what's quick. It's one thing not the get
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: a guy out in six, seven, eight rounds, but when
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: you're like, knock guys out in one or two rounds
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: normally not fighting anybody like, that's always a you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: a telltale sign of things like if you're if you
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: just taking if you're getting people out here in the
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: first sec round, you're not fighting quality enough guys for
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: you to be talking like he was talking, and it showed.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Boy did his show.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I think we talked a couple episodes ago about Mike
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Tyson and how his first round knockouts and you know whatever,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a minute and twenty seconds, minut and a half knockouts.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: You know, they were for the more casual fans, you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: real boxing fans weren't really all about that because they
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: got all dressed up, went out and then all of
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: a sudden events over. But the difference is that Mike
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Tyson had the skills, you know, he could back up
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the talk of the hype like he was a very strong, skilled,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: technically skilled fast fighter. Uh. And I think guys, I
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: think we all as an audience need to be wary
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: of somebody who wants to be the new Mike Tyson,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: does it have all of the technical skills that he
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: brought to the table to the ring.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Rather Also, you got to realize, like this too, we
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: have biases towards fighters from certain parts of this country.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: So if there's a guy from New York, no matter
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: what race, he is we're gonna hype them up, like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: we're gonna give them a lot of hype for whatever reason.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: If they're from the East Coast, there's more boxing media
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: out there, there's more press in general, there's more boxing
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: venues and more boxing like for instance, like Philly, Baltimore, DC, Jersey,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: New York. All those places have had events, like big
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: events and a lot of fighters from there. Their media
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: does very well with their athletes just in general, like
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: they really cover the sport well. They will pub him,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: they'll hype them. The celebrities from there will go overboard
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: and hype their own guys out. It happens a lot,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: happens a whole lot. So all that being said, we
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: kind of have to be wary all becaustomis from New
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: York or somebodys from Philly. That don't mean they a
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: great fine. That just means they have some celebrity fans
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: that like them. So we got to be very very careful.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of big hype fights that might not lift
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: up to the expectations, This Saturday, July nineteenth is the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: big comeback of many pact YEA, we won't be getting
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: into the details. We talked about it in a couple
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: episodes back. Suffice to say, we're I'll say this, I'd
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: be very curious to see what shape many is in.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: You know, we just talked about George Foreman. The man
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: was in his forties when he won a heavyweight title.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It is for a belt, it is for a title,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: so it's not just a random little showcase. So I'm
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: taking it more seriously.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Than I would.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You know, the Mike Tyson come back from last year.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: But let's get real, like, let's put it out there
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: right now. What do you think the results are going
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: to be? Jameson as I don't know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: It's hard picking a boxer in their forties when they
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: haven't fought in a while, especially when this is like
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: a cash grap It's not like he wants to keep fighting,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: he wants to be a champion again, it's a cash grab.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Like if the fight wasn't for money, he wouldn't care
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: who has a belt. It's very very, very very difficult
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: to find out what kind of shape is in, but
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: also why is he fighting? Why? And we think about it,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: why does any boxer fight when they're in their forties
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: because they're broke and or they need money, and to
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: be honest with you, I don't think he cares about
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: the wind of loss. I think he's there for the
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: pay day. So that's the case. I cannot bet on him.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I cannot take him. Could be surprised, could be shocked.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: But he's been kind of washed for a while now,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: and I think we see more washing this on Saturday.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm gonna go ahead and give the man
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a little bit of credit and say that I'm not
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: gonna say that he's gonna win. I'm going to say
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: that it's going to go the distance, and Mario Barrios
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: is gonna take it by a decision. I don't know
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: if maybe you know, if Barrios are any other fighters
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: who are fighting the legend kind of that gets in
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: their heads and they're like, well, this guy has sure
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: he's Manny now, but it was also Manny then. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: don't know if that makes him a little gun shy,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: But I think that if Manny's gonna come back, he's
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: not going to come back just kind of half asking it.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: He's gonna try his best, whether he's washed or not.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to go the distance, but I'm
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: still gonna give it to Bodios, so we'll see. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: have never Yeah, I've never been worried about being wrong
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: on this show or in life at any time. But
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: that's my solid prediction. So whether I'll bet on that,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You know what, I think I might
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: start betting on draws just across the board, like putting
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: five bucks on draws every single fight because the odds
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: are so against it. I'm just gonna make something right.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like sometimes draws like twenty to one
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: the first Canelo Triple G fight, it was a draw
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people were mad because they bet
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: one or the other. But you're truly out of draw
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: just because of what you just said, so I understand completely.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that just might be my new thing.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I'm the draw guy. It's like always betting on black
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: but it's gonna be always bet on draws, right all right?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: So well, when we come back, we're gonna talk about
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the results of this fight and any other fights coming up.
• 50:06
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• 50:09
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• 50:10
  Speaker 4: As always? On Twitter at you Jamison? And yeah, we'll
• 50:13
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