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Interview with Lydia Stokke | Awakening for the Next Generation · Alive & Kicking: Stories of Waking Up with Kay Eck

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, I'm Kay Ak, and welcome to my podcast, Alive and Kicking: Stories of Waking Up.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back, everybody.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the podcast.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm super excited today that my guest is Lydia Stokey.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, Lydia.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, Kay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for having me.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: How are you?
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm super excited to talk to you today.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Lydia and I have known each other for, I don't know, a year or so, not very long, but I feel like we were pretty quickly bonded.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of like uh you and your mom and I in sort of a circle of purpose and whatnot.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's been really super fun to get to know you, and I'm really excited to have you here today.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because you're because you're 24, you just turned 24, happy birthday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you have like a completely different perspective on a lot of the things that I'm talking about, which is uh going around and asking people what their experiences are of waking up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it occurred to me today that because you're, you know, um probably several almost a gener, you're a generation for sure, maybe even a little bit more, then uh behind me that your perspective is going to be completely different.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe um your experience of waking up.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to hear about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's um let's begin by talking a little bit about your childhood.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: Where did you grow up and what was your sense of yourself as a child?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I grew up in a small lake town called Clear Lake, Iowa.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I had a quite unique childhood.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_02: I had two families growing up.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had my mom's family and my dad's side of the family.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um very, very different lifestyles, of course.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um my dad's lifestyle, we were a little bit more um, we were a bit more similar to the rest of the community in my mom's lifestyle.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were very, very different, you know, we ate solely organic food.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, my mom she would go to the grocery stores um like two hours away in Minneapolis.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: She would drive hours and hours to get us clean, healthy food to make sure that we grew up strong and healthy because that was that was what was most important to her, and that is exactly what has completely um motivated me throughout my entire life, actually, is all of the effort that my mom went through to make sure that my siblings and I just grew up ahead of the game, you know, with it and conscious and happy and healthy.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, my my I guess my consciousness of me and my family as a child, it was it was slightly, I guess I could feel like I felt slightly awakened just because I could sense how different my family and I were from everybody else, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everybody else just kind of like they know what they're supposed to be doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: You could kind of tell that the town teach townspeople are very programmed, and most people they just kind of like go with the system and they're very I need to get through school, I need to find a husband, I need to do my job, whatever, whatever.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like I just I didn't really have that sense of I feel like that's what I need to be doing.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: I was very, you know, I was a child.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know what was going on around me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I was just like, I feel I I am a child.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm just I'm just here and I'm discovering and I don't know what I want to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: All I knew is that I needed to eat healthy and just take care of myself because that was probably the most important thing my mom always programmed into us is focus on ourselves and be happy and healthy and conscious and present.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So was when was that difficult for you to navigate between the two families?
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you feel like you had to shift who you were to be in those different situations?
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  SPEAKER_02: Um slightly.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_02: I could say slightly at times.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: I felt like I needed, I definitely, it wasn't like I had to like intentionally shift who I was because I became very, very comfortable with both sides of my family.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um it was a very natural, happy um environment, both my dad's family and my mom's family.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody was so everybody's very close and everybody loved each other.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: And my families were actually both very close.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: We all will we um we lived in the same neighborhood.
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  SPEAKER_02: My dad was like just a block away from my mom, and we would all communicate.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my my brother and my mom's side, Sam and my brother, my dad's side, they were actually best friends.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: He comes out to visit us here in Colorado all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, but now that I think about it, I definitely had different somewhat different identities being at different being at both different houses.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my mom's family, we were more we were just we were very free and everybody did their own thing, and um yeah, then on my dad's side, we were it was very close quarters, we had more people, and we all knew what was going on with each other, and we felt like we were more of a collective and we operated.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: We went to church and we did church activities, and so we were very, you know, it was a little bit more put together, like not put together, but just more had a set tone, if you know what I mean, I guess.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_02: But um yeah, I was always I was always encouraged to be myself and be present near both places that I were, both places that I was.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: So the you grew up in a small town in Iowa, and from the beginning your mom was kind of like using food as the entry point to to a larger um experience of of consciousness and and still does today, as as far as I know.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: But at that time growing up, um how did that help you, or how did that how was that experience of being around small town Iowa people?
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  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a sense of yourself as different, or was that difficult?
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  SPEAKER_02: Or absolutely very different.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um my mom would take us to the farms around our town all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were always at farms, she would throw slow food dinners, she what is what they were preferred to, or what they were called.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just always conversing with lots of people that were a lot older than me, lots of farmers and chefs and scientists and et cetera, et cetera.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I noticed myself just aware of so many issues going on in our larger system, bigger picture, the rest of the world, and stuff that we didn't really see in everyday life.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: I noticed I couldn't really converse with a lot of these things with about a lot of these things with people my age.
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  SPEAKER_02: A lot of my friends, they just kind of when I was younger at least, they didn't really know how to link in with that, I guess.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I found it just kind of hard to discuss, and so I was very kind of introverted and very quiet, and I was just I grew to be my a big observer.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_02: I loved people watching and I loved admiring because like I was just around all of these older people a lot, and I just again, you know, took on this place of taking a lot in as I was younger.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, as far as the food, we you know, we definitely were very different.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my mom would have us pack organic lunches to take to school, and you know, when we were even younger, younger, we would go into like um daycare every once in a while, and they wouldn't let us, she wouldn't allow us to drink the milk in the daycare system because it's not organic, it's it's bad.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: And we she would um I would get asked these questions all the time, like, why are you different?
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: Why can't you drink this?
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: And this and that, like what's what's wrong with your family?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we feel like people just kind of had trouble relating because at the time it was very unknown, you know, but it was before my mom anchored in all of the standards for um um working with organic standards with Fred Kircherman and GMOs and all of this, all of this stuff, and so nobody really nobody really knew or understood it.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, um, just it kind of um pushed me into being more of quiet, more of an observer because I just there was no there was nothing not much to relate to as far as like how we ate and what we knew about our food systems.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you sometimes when you have like a more expanded awareness of the world around you, that brings with it certain challenges.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you start to see like the real state of affairs, and that can be you know kind of overwhelming to even mature people.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm wondering how and if that affected you as a young person.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I mean when I think about who I am now and understanding the state I am in now, how quickly I came into this awakening, I feel like you know, as I've done traveling and have met many other people and lived in so many different places around my country, I've noticed there are there's so many people in the world that really don't get to come into an awakening.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: And it's partially be it's mostly because of how they're brought up and how they ate and how they were conditioned, and it has everything, every every everything to do with who you are now, and so seeing like the state I'm in now, my awareness and my consciousness, and my ability to just be completely present and tune in and learning how to just tune in and tap in in so many different ways.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like I feel like I'm expanding my consciousness in many ways, and my presence and um energy and energetically, and electrically, even you know, and being able to tap in to different energies and different electrical systems and different people, like different people energetically and electrically.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um almost being able to relate differently and um so yeah, it's it's a it's a lot to bring bring all of that back in, understanding how different how much it really did affect who I am now, being able to grow up that way and being aware of these things as as I was growing up and as I was younger.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: And um when I finally when I finally fell into the kind of work that my mom does with anchoring in awareness for what we eat and what we put into our bodies and what we give back to the environment, it it really, really struck me how much it affects how much it affected me growing up with all of that.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like I literally had this amazing moment of wow, I really do have a full line throughout my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have a full, you know, path.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: I've been working in the food system, like I know this and I know that, and I know these people, and I know these connections.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: I was always growing up, I was thinking I had to find my own thing, like I had to do something different, but I was like, I have all of this amazing, unique information and knowledge and connections.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like I really it's so special, and I just I couldn't help but want to do something with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just felt such a drawing connection immediately.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: It was literally like one, like within it was just a moment, like it all came in, and I knew I wanted to carry on this work, and because it is it is a very unique position to um to educate people about our food system, to educate people about you know giving back to the earth and giving back to our organic farmers who are holding this synergistic um link between humanity and earth.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: And just having that growing up as a child, I mean, it just feels like it's it always brings me back to me when I think about what I do for work and when I think about writing and researching this work, it's like it's truly me.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: It truly is, it's it's humanity, it's all of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, I mean it's such a gift to have that awareness of purpose as young as you are, because I think the experience of people much older than you, and maybe you can comment on the experience of your generation, but coming into that knowing is a long, long journey sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, some some people live an entire life without having a sense of purpose.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what can you say about this idea of purpose in your generation?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are people aware of it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it um a topic of conversation?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it a top of consciousness?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um after I left my hometown and I moved out to Massachusetts, I was there with my family and I was I spent some time out in New York.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: I noticed an immediate shift and the the conversations and the awareness, everybody was just so on top of.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, where I was at least, I was working um on this organic farm out in Massachusetts, so I was completely surrounded by people who were aware of a lot of other issues in the world and just general self-awareness, self-awareness and self-care and awareness that everything starts through the individual, through the person, and the individual when they take care of themselves and they feed themselves from the earth while taking care of the earth, you know, it just it just everything it's like fits back into the cycle, and that I feel like that's kind of where um my my generation, I've noticed the topic of conversation.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: We are always kind of wanting to find ways to fit back into the cycles, fit back, fit back, fit back into the cycles of nature, back to working with nature, and um so yeah, that was a very, very popular topic of conversation out there.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: But then coming out to um back out to Colorado this this past year, I mean it's it's inescapable, especially in with my people my age.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and not even just people my age, you know, I mean we go to there's so many, oh, there's so much going on here.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um everything from like ecstatic dances to um just people meeting and wanting to guide meditations, wanting to just have social groups of just conscious conversation.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're so just this year, like just coming into this year, I've noticed like just a radical like shift and consciousness and awareness.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: People are just they can't help but like tune, like I mean, if they're still holding on to a lot of stuff, I'm noticing a lot of clearing, a lot of distortions just really surfacing and just coming out and breaking out, and it's been really interesting to notice that and be able to witness and see it for what it is and guide them through that because often when you're experiencing that you're very like you feel very chaotic and out of control, and you can kind of like guide these people who like no, this is all that's happening, you're just clearing, like this is this is not even you anymore.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and there's just a lot of conversations like that, like you know, and I've also been I've also been able to receive that from many people as well.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: I've had moments where I've been detoxing and clearing, and I was thinking I was having self-doubt, and the people come right back to me and say the same thing, like you know, what you put out there really does come to you, and honestly, like you know, it's a whole quantum effect.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: We are the creators, we really do create whatever we fixate and focus on.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, so yeah, it's very, very, very present.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm noticing in my in this generation, in this time in general, of self-awareness and working on the individual and understanding that everything starts with the individual and everything reflects right back to you.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: And when you put that out there, you know, it's just like it's it's in everything, and yeah, that's what creates the collective.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm really interested in hearing about um you know how the process of clearing the distortions and the and releasing yourself from the programming from the perspective of a younger person, because I think because the life experiences are different, um, it might look a little bit different.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it might be really helpful for people to know what that kind of distortion actually looks like in real life, you know.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's like usually it's it's probably related to a core wound, but it's going to how is it going to present itself?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe you could talk about that a little bit.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, well, of course, it depends on who you have been and what you have been experiencing throughout your life.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um you go and you think about certain triggers or traumas that you have throughout your life, like traumas that lead to like present moment experiences where you have those triggers and you notice that it takes you away from your sovereignty, it takes you away from your center.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, when you start to detox and you start to come into this awakening and this awareness of who you are, and that you know, these past experiences, these past things that have like led you to like break yourself or like kind of you know, you know, seclude yourself or go into your hole or whatever, you realize that's no longer you anymore.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: When you start to detox that, and you it it comes out as experiencing that for me, in my perspective, in my experiences, I whatever kind of detox you could be going through, it could be through a very deep meditation.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it could be from going in from learning from an elder, from a somebody who is a more experienced and somebody you trust, and just have coming to intense realization.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: It could be through a form of ecstatic dancing or any form of I noticed I'd go through deep detoxes when I experience something like that.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: But um, when you're going through these detoxes, I've noticed that you experience what it is that you're detoxing.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, say I have this deep self-doubt about myself.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like for me, example, for example, I always I always struggled with communicating and talking and feeling confident in my words and my word choices, really, and that what I was saying was enough, was enough to contribute to the conversation, was enough to make sense to others around me.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um when I would det I I was I'm you know, more specifically, I was going through this detox when I started um communicating when I started being with my ecstatic dance community, there was so much conversation and so much like true love, so much true love there and true expression and just seeing, and it was very it almost like kind of like forced me to like detox this view of myself as not saying enough of not being enough.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: And for the first few times I went, I couldn't understand why I was so it was like it was like heightened almost, like not being not feeling enough and not being able to express enough.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it was worse almost, like you'll feel feel it very heavy, and then suddenly like you could wake up one morning and you're just it's gone, you know, it's clear, and you can't even relate to that part of yourself anymore.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I just you just you don't feel like you're no longer like in thoughts of the past, like you know, when you hold on to thoughts, you're holding on to um you're holding on to the past really, and you're not present, and you don't feel that anymore, you just feel very like centered and present, and like you can engage, and like and that's all it was for me.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: I just wasn't centered, and I was holding on to a lot of things from the past, a lot of past beliefs about myself.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: And after I was able to go through that detox, I was able to realize that that was what you know led to many of my issues in my life is I just wasn't able to I wasn't able to be present, yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: But that's that's what that's usually what detoxing is.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: You'll you'll be feeling whatever it is that could be holding you back very heightenedly, and it's very and you have to you just kind of have to understand that it it is for it is what it is.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's detoxing, it's not you anymore.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: You're you're releasing it and you have to see that and you have to express it, you know, it's energy all.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Energy needs to be expressed and purged and sent back to source, you know, let go of and just see it for that.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: You know, send it love and you see you see this energy, this detox, like, oh, this taught me, it is what it is, and but I can let it go now.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's no longer me.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: You have to confirm those beliefs about yourself.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: You have to confirm and you have to continue to confirm them throughout your life.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: You have to keep, you know, sometimes it'll continue to pop up, and you just have to say, no, no, no, that's not me anymore.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: I let that go.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's really important for people to understand is that when you're detoxing or clearing something, I think there's almost an expectation that you're going to feel better.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that's true, but the initial thing that you have to feel is the actual thing that you're clearing.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're clearing fear, it's going to feel like fear.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then it and then it you move through it or it moves from you.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: So the expression of it actually releases it from your cellular body or your emotional body, or um, yeah, whatever.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I I'm so happy that you brought that up and explained that so beautifully.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it sounds like um if somebody is, you know, in their 20s or earlier or later, and they begin to feel some of this chaotic energy that you spoke of, and they don't know what it is, and there isn't anybody talking about that kind of thing.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: How would you suggest that they move forward with that?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: What would be your recommendation?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um recommendation for specifically like how they deal with that energy that's coming out and how they incorporate that into their life.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Or where they get the support that they might need.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Where would they look for that?
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, your loved ones for sure.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Your loved ones that have that know you and listen to you, your loved ones who truly accept you and encourage your growth, who encourage and understand that you could be releasing something.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: Look for people like that.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Also meditation and sitting with it, you know, being taking time, taking time to feel what that feels like.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: You could be detoxing something that you notice plays throughout your life, that you notice that you have noticed throughout your life, does not make you feel higher, does that not make you feel mature?
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Does that make you feel centered and grounded and full of love?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: And and you feel what that this energy feels like to sit with it and you know, why don't you want this?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why does this need to be released?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: What could this, what could this have taught me?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why, or like why is this still coming up?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's another thing, is to be asking yourself, okay, well, why am I still feeling this?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because everything you know reflects right back to you.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: We hold frequencies, we hold um, like that's the best word for me for me to say for that.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: We hold a frequency, we really do.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it's just about elevating your frequency, and it's about elevating your light and your energy.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you just need to be able to focus on literally nothing and just being present with the energy that's around you and being silent in your body and in your thoughts, not even your thoughts, like allowing your thoughts to be nothing.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: You're just very you're very centered.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's a beautiful place, isn't it?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: It really is.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's I've been, I mean, just recently I've been able to notice that I can guide myself into that whenever I like, you know, it takes it takes effort, but you it's really incredible when you can notice that you can take yourself, you have power over your body, over your mind, and you can just you just are, you can just be.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so just having that ability, I think, to sit with yourself and notice these things, notice your triggers and notice your traumas, that's that's is that is a huge, it's a huge step is self-awareness.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so if you're having that, you know you're coming into a maybe an enlightenment, an awakening, and you can start this process with clearing and detoxing.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think of that um that inner peace as like an inner sanctuary, so that no matter what the storm is around you, you can come to that place and view it from a little more balanced perspective, a little more um grounded, and see that like how it might be affecting you and how it's not actually affecting you.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's worth cultivating, even though in the beginning it's really challenging.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, definitely.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because when you start to sit and be quiet, you realize how much is spinning around in your mind.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what keeps a lot of people from trying meditation.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, I can't, my mind is too active.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, um, that might be the reason why you need to try it and stick with it.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you realize you almost start to realize how programmed you can be, yeah.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like how much there is out there in the world that is telling you how to be, that you're like consistently, you're it's like you're just always running in that program.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you know your computer is like just running all of these different things, and it's not just a played computer, like if we can be the same thing like we're running all of these different programs, and they're in the background, right?
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: They're running in the background, they're not like on the screen, they're they're back there, you don't see them all the time unless you get quiet, and then they can come forward and then you can look at them.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, do you think that the spiritual path has to be difficult?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: My goodness, good question.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: Have to be, no, of course not.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um when I think about I don't know, people perhaps in other places around the world who you know are born in different countries and perhaps are just born with this wisdom, you know, spiritual path is is just it's nothing but just presence and hearing and listening and using all of your senses to like their fullest abilities.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it doesn't, it definitely doesn't have to be that difficult.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, when I'm when I think about like my spiritual path compared to like like coming into my spiritual awakening compared to and clearing all of these things compared to my mother's, you know, she had so much more to clear than I did, and so much more to deal with, um, just because of do you know she's had more experiences, and so she's she's hers was a lot more difficult, and it still is a lot more difficult than mine.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, she's almost in a way doing some of the work for me because you know I am of her lineage, and you know, when you clear some of these things, it clears ancestral lineages, it clears energetic blockages within our energetical DNA throughout our ancestral lineage, and so in a way she's almost helping me with that and clearing patterns that maybe weren't even mine in the first place.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it it just completely depends on your on your placement and where you are at your with your family, with your with your surroundings, with your environment.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: It definitely doesn't have to be difficult, you know, but it depends on also what you're holding on to and the ego and stop being stubborn, and it just it depends.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if the more you can just be very honest with it and true and see everything for what it is, I feel like the easier it'll be, you know.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_02: I still have triggers and I still have things that set me off, and I noticed I'm able to come back to my sovereignty, my center, the more I see it for what it is, and I let the ego go.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I say, Yeah, I just there was no reason for me to get annoyed by that, but I just did.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: So let's let's look at that.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's still something I need to.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: Why is that?
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's it's not worth it.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_02: Just the more honest and humble I guess you can be with it, the easier.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, the the energies are definitely more supportive of clearing things faster because we're in higher frequency, it's not as dense.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but that doesn't mean necessarily that you're not going to feel those things.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: You still have to feel your way through them, but they can move a lot faster.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I think about like the pioneers who were doing this work, you know, generations ago.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: That must have been like moving mountains.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I can't even imagine.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, where do you feel that humanity is moving and how does that mirror your journey?
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I see I see different sides of humanity, you know, part of humanity.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: I see in my surroundings, I know, you know, I'm in Boulder, Colorado, and I'm spending time with the people I want to and who, you know, encourage me and are on the same kind of path.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: I see enlightenment and I see awareness and I see I see interaction with nature, interaction with other humans, and just full expression.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, expression in every single way.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, expression through cooking and dancing and singing and you know, clothing, I mean, everything.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: There's so much expression.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: And it's, I mean, but I mean, I just moved here, and I'm the more I'm getting into these conversations with my new friends and so many people from around this community, a lot of these people are also just coming into this.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: They're not at least the first, it's like the year that they've been noticing everything is just breaking down, you know, blockages and barriers between humanity in general, between other humans.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, I have I mean, I have a few friends who hold intimate gatherings, and I'm noticing like the more every time you go, like people are just like more willing to just approach you and just speak.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: And they just want, they just want to express.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so on one hand, I see I see that.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I see humanity like coming together and like able to like work through these hard topics and these things going on.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, and just having you know, bright ideas.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's so many people that have really, really good ideas as to how we can be affecting our futures, like larger scale to smaller scale, like all these different ways.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, even just even just like through growing your own garden.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I've all I've been meeting a lot of people who just want to get back into the dirt and who just want to make sure that they're set up for themselves and just kind of want to take their power back, and but also like who just want to feel that connection with the earth again because they know they understand that that's where that starts.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then on the other, I guess, you know, on the other side, you you know, you can't help but get online and see stuff about the elections going on or a lot of things in the government, or I mean, I try not to tune into it too much, but you know it's there, so I'm not like incredibly educated on all of these, like you know, logistics and I guess, but you do still see a lot of distortion, and you do still see those who those who don't, who haven't come to this awakening yet, and they're still stuck in an old timeline.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and and it can be argued that it's it's heightened right now.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're seeing, I mean, look at this virus that we're dealing with right now.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm noticing that humanity and the earth is reacting like 10 times more to this because we are at this place where all of these different cycles are coming around and they're they're moving at the same time, you know, like the cycles of the cycles of the economy, cycles of the climate, cycles of human conflict where they're all turning around at the same time, you know, like at the same time Schuman residence is literally shifting and changing, and the whole earth shaped shifts with it.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: So those humans and those the the those parts of humanity that still do hold these distortions, you know, it's going to be heightened and it's going to be like pushed because you know, earth and humanity, it's like it's moving, it's moving up.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: And if you can't shift with it, with it, you're gonna be down here and like it's gonna be trying to punch you to get here.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like all of your distortions are going to be really coming out, and the distortions of humanity are going to be becoming more aware of, and it's just yeah, I mean you pretty much describe the whole 3D, 5D paradigm there difference.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Way to go.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, um, how about we switch over to our lightning round?
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready for that?
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh goodness, totally right on.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what is your greatest gift?
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness, um could oh direct contact with nature.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_02: Totally.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: My my knowledge of working in the ground and working on farms and my yeah, just being able to go out into the dirt and like grow my own garden and work with friends.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: I might have been like my boyfriend lately.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: We've his house, he's all of his roommates, they've got like this huge, huge, huge yard, and we've just been like digging it up and we're gonna like get a huge garden going.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: And oh, it's just been like really motivating me.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that knowledge and growing up with that is my greatest gift.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, wonderful.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you could request a new gift, what would it be?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: A new gift.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: I would say more listeners, more like direct listeners, like to have like a direct space where I could just go and like be on a platform, and so many could just like like oh my god, that is yeah, like to just be able to deliver because I feel like I have a lot of, but I'm sure there's so many people who feel this way, but I feel like I have a lot of pieces of knowledge, and I feel like I have found a lot of answers to living a happy life with also a crazy background, and to be able to just guide people and have people like listen to me and feel like they can trust me.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that that sounds like leadership.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: You you hope to lead.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah, I guess I can just say that totally.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think you'd be absolutely fantastic at that.
• 38:03
  unknown: Oh my god.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um when you when you imagine a better world, what's in it?
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: More greenery, more greenery, and honestly, just more connection, more contact with humans and more expression, like expression, expression, expression.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's like my favorite word since I've come out to come out to Colorado.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, everybody is just so so expressive through everything.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: More dancing.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I would just love to see people dancing in the streets and community.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to see people like able to come out into their communities and into the neighborhoods and uh no more barriers, no more programming, no more toxins, no more like self-doubt.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have any memories of living other lives?
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I do.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_02: I had a really interesting, very, very, very powerful dream.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: Literally, one of the last nights I was living out in Massachusetts when I was out on the farm and living with nature.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: I had a very powerful dream.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm almost convinced it was of a past life because it was so vivid, and I almost saw how I maybe my past, one of my past bodies could have been pair could could have perished.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like it was, I feel like I was a man in Hawaii who maybe passed through an eruption of one of the volcanoes or something, because I literally I could, it's almost like I could, I was panned away and I saw myself just running, just running along the grasses and running along the nature, running along nature, the grounds, and then this this lava, like it just like it kind of like the ground almost like kind of started to turn into lava, and suddenly like I was like in first person perspective, and I was this person like I couldn't run anymore, and I just like noticed myself sinking into the lava, and I just I was no more, but then I felt a higher spirit like evolve out of the lava, and I was riding the lava like it was water, and I was like riding on top of it almost.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: And suddenly I was just like it was like pushed onto solid land, and I was just like walking throughout society like it was like it was nothing, you know.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: I was I was at a conference, I remember I was at some sort of conference, and I was working with my mom, and I was working with all of these people, and it was just like nothing had happened, and I was like, I remember me in my dream, like, did you guys just see that?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: That like that that lava, I mean that volcano just I mean, it was so weird.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: So when you came out of the lava, when you were pushed down to the ground, were you in yourself?
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: This Lydia?
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I saw my mom and I saw at the time I was working with we were working with um Dan Kittredge of the Bionutrient Food Association, and like we were doing we were working with a at a conference for him.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: It was so vivid to me.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, you know, like we were helping him, you know, with conference, and so I knew it was my life, but like suddenly like I was out of Hawaii, and then that was I don't know, it was weird.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: That was the that it almost feels like it was like showing you how one life flows into another, you know, like all is one.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's really that's really a cool dream.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: It was so amazing, I'll never forget it.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: I love having dreams about nature and natural disasters.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: I have so many natural disaster dreams.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of dreams about being strangled.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, but we could talk about that another time.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um so okay.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um did you bring a question for me today?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I did actually.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um I've recently been getting into deeper into my research and writing, and I know you're a writer, and I just I don't know.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: I just kind of wanted to hear maybe your journey with becoming a writer and moving into that, and like if you had doubts about like if you could make a career out of this or if you'd be able to reach enough with people, or I don't know, I'm just kind of curious.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is such an interesting and timely question for me.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: I grew up writing, but I also um did a lot of things, so I I was really creative in a lot of different ways.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: I would make things and create plays and games, and but writing was definitely a part of my experience, and I I thought very early on that I would be a writer, but through my education, that was not something that was encouraged for me.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: I never received like any sort of um encouragement at all for that, so I kind of forgot about it for a long time, and I um even though I did I had a my degrees in journalism, um even then I wasn't really on the path of writing as um I guess you could say as an occupation, but I've always still done it, and then I always knew that I would write a book, but I just didn't know what it was going to be about.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I started writing my first book, I was really doing it for myself.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I was using writing as a way to help me process things that I was going through, difficult things.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I Going through a lot of things at the same time, and it was just like a barrage of everything all at once, and so writing helped me clarify what I was feeling and what the root was of those feelings.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: So um I am of the belief that the best writing comes for when you're writing for yourself.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: If you're writing for an audience, then it's it kind of like directs what you're saying and how you're saying it, and doing it just for yourself as your own form of expression feels like then the authentic voice has the outlet.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um one of the things that I do when I write is I sit in meditation for a little while first and ask for the channels to open so that divine wisdom can come through me and then becomes you know my authentic expression, like the understanding of it becomes my authentic expression.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of what I would offer to you make it be for you and how you want it to be, what you want to learn and what you want to express.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's really good for me to hear.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for saying that.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah, and then you will find an audience for whom that resonates.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you go looking for the audience first, it's like it's like there's just too too many people, you know, with too many different needs and ideas.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: And to I just don't think that that's necessarily gonna be an effective way of finding an audience.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: So agreed.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, agreed.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_02: I really need definitely needed to hear that.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: And all the other thing that I would say is that this might be surprising to some people is that I find that I personally can only write for about two hours a day.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then after those two hours, it's it starts to become more mental and it's not as pure, it's like kind of clunky and um so I don't keep myself on any kind of rigorous schedule, and I do not write every day, I write on the days that I can and when I'm feeling really called to do it, and I feel like that's when the best stuff comes through.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's really that's really important for me to hear, especially since I'm coming up writing for this nonprofit that I'm working for.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm doing, is research and writing.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like I have a general route that I need to be going in.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm also I'm also always told to hold to our language, to hold to my language, to hold to my understanding and my knowing.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, you know, I'm doing researching and I'm like I'm hearing and seeing all of these other ways of writing and all of these already uh thought-out opinions, and I feel like in a way I'm almost I need just I just need to find a balance because I'm still learning and I'm learning from a lot of other writers, and I'm seeing the their styles at the same time.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: I need to, I do need to allow those channels to open.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: I do need to find those, and I do need to find that pure, you know, source.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I need to let that out.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and what has served me well is that I make sure that I'm writing something that I really know.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Really know.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that helps me keep true to my voice.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: I have to really, really know that what I'm saying is true.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Not that it's always gonna be true because you know, as we grow and evolve, our truth changes, but um, and we're we're reaching, you know, more absolute truth, you know, so we're we're imperfect in that way of understanding the truth, but um yeah, so I also allow myself to make mistakes and I don't punish myself for that.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Everything that comes out is a learning process.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: Everything that comes out will teach you something, it's there for a reason.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: Totally well, Lydia.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: I've loved our time together.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: You are such a beautiful light, and I'm so excited that I get to have a front row seat to watch you evolve and grow and lead, and um really feeling hopeful about the future of humanity.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: With you in charge.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in charge.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we all are totally.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, thank you.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, honestly, you were you were a huge inspiration to me when I first came out to Colorado.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: My when my family was moving out from Massachusetts, we get to I get to meet you along the way.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: Your youthful spirit was just so inspiring to me.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: It really was.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.