Latest / The Skol Hop / Purple Punishments, Hawkeye Beer, and Friend of the Show Forrest | TSH Ep. 156
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Alright, hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode of
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Skol Hop. I'm Evan.
- 0:04Speaker 2: And I'm Austin.
- 0:05Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
- 0:07Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.
- 0:09Speaker 2: And we have a friend of the show, Forrest, with
- 0:12Speaker 2: us again tonight, talking about the Bears-Vikings game. We also
- 0:16Speaker 2: had a really great Hoctoberfest from Back Pocket Brewing.
- 0:21Speaker 3: Man, it was delicious. So, let me say, I got
- 0:26Speaker 3: some retribution on you guys, though, on the Purple Punishment.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Made up for some hard feelings on the Bears-Vikings game.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Things definitely got a little messy, but I'm happy the
- 0:37Speaker 1: Vikings won.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It was definitely messy. And you know what?
- 0:41Speaker 2: I hope Caleb Williams is okay after that gruesome injury
- 0:45Speaker 2: that he suffered.
- 0:46Speaker 3: You know, I chose to be the bigger man and
- 0:50Speaker 3: just talk straight up about Week 2 game. And I'm
- 0:54Speaker 3: not sad about moving on just to Week 3.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Well, wherever you're at, whatever fan you are of your
- 1:01Speaker 1: NFL team, grab a cold one. Join us for episode
- 1:04Speaker 1: 156 of The Skol Hop.
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- 1:23Speaker 1: Skol All right, well, we already introduced friend of the show, Forrest, here.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We're going to get into all things Vikings-Bears game here
- 1:45Speaker 1: in a little bit. But, Austin, the Vikings won, but
- 1:49Speaker 1: we've got to spin the wheel.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I'm not even super mad about this one. I like
- 1:53Speaker 2: all the things on the wheel, and we're spinning it
- 1:56Speaker 2: because we were wrong and the Vikings won. So there's
- 1:59Speaker 2: only so mad you can be.
- 2:00Speaker 1: All right, so for the first spin of the 26-27
- 2:05Speaker 1: football season with some new items on the list.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Let's let the fate decide. All right.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 2:13Speaker 3: May the odds be ever in your favor.
- 2:15Speaker 1: And today we will be... No way. Getting a pie
- 2:20Speaker 1: in the face. So, Forrest, you get to pie both
- 2:24Speaker 1: of us in the face.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Yes, there is.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I have whipped cream. I have a lot of whipped cream.
- 2:29Speaker 1: There is a little bit of, you know.
- 2:32Speaker 3: win just because you guys yeah had to take the
- 2:36Speaker 3: punishment you know.
- 2:37Speaker 1: What that's fine so we're gonna have to break away
- 2:39Speaker 1: from the desk because we're not gonna get whipped cream
- 2:41Speaker 1: all over this awesome space this is sacred right here
- 2:45Speaker 1: um but we'll go get that set up and we'll
- 2:47Speaker 1: be back in just a few minutes.
- 2:49Speaker 5: Mighty mighty pie yes you ready for that yeah let's
- 2:55Speaker 5: go All right, we're here getting ready to let friend
- 3:00Speaker 5: of the show Forrest pie Austin in the face because
- 3:03Speaker 5: Austin and I both picked the Vikings to lose to
- 3:06Speaker 5: the Bears.
- 3:06Speaker 1: So it's only appropriate that friend of the show Forrest,
- 3:09Speaker 1: Bears fan.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Just a little retribution.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Just remember, I didn't beat the Bears. I know. This
- 3:15Speaker 2: might be punishment.
- 3:16Speaker 3: You had no faith in your team. The Vikings gods
- 3:19Speaker 3: look down and there will.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Be a punishment.
- 3:22Speaker 3: All right.
- 3:23Speaker 2: All right.
- 3:23Speaker 4: You ready?
- 3:24Speaker 2: Whenever you're ready. All right.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Three, two, one.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Oh that's all in your beard oh man yeah i
- 3:35Speaker 4: i'm afraid to open my eyes it's.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Amazing do you want to lick any of that out
- 3:39Speaker 1: of there no.
- 3:41Speaker 2: No all right good knit forest evan you are up
- 3:46Speaker 2: next it's cool all right evan it's your turn forest
- 3:49Speaker 2: got me really good but uh i was able to
- 3:51Speaker 2: clean up pretty good you can still see A little
- 3:54Speaker 2: bit on the wall there. But only some of it
- 3:57Speaker 2: got on the wall. Most of it was on my face. So, Evan,
- 4:01Speaker 2: you're up next. How are you feeling?
- 4:04Speaker 1: I feel great.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I'm ready for it. All right. Forrest, whenever you are ready.
- 4:07Speaker 2: All right.
- 4:08Speaker 5: Countdown.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Three, two, one.
- 4:10Speaker 2: That tastes good. Tastes like a Vikings win. Oh, man. Forrest,
- 4:19Speaker 2: I will say, if I ever have to get pied
- 4:21Speaker 2: in the face again... I hope you're the one to
- 4:24Speaker 2: do it because, I mean, well, it's pretty– you did it.
- 4:29Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. I will say, at least
- 4:33Speaker 2: when you did it to me, it's not like I
- 4:34Speaker 2: was punched in the face.
- 4:35Speaker 3: But there was plenty on the face.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:37Speaker 3: You guys loaded it so much.
- 4:39Speaker 2: That it, like, flew out of the– That's all on Evan. Well, Evan,
- 4:43Speaker 2: first purple punishments of the season. Yeah, here's to a
- 4:47Speaker 2: great season. All right, Ev. Actually, you know what? That
- 4:51Speaker 2: wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
- 4:53Speaker 1: It was pretty fun. I enjoyed it, actually.
- 4:56Speaker 3: You know who enjoyed it.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a little lick around, but I just
- 5:02Speaker 2: kind of wanted to get clean right away, so not
- 5:04Speaker 2: too much. But I was dreading that one all last season.
- 5:07Speaker 2: We didn't end up having to pie each other in
- 5:09Speaker 2: the face last year. And it's the first one we
- 5:11Speaker 2: have this year. So now it's over with. Now hopefully
- 5:14Speaker 2: the next thing is like eat something spicy or something
- 5:16Speaker 2: like that.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Are you saying you're going to lose again?
- 5:19Speaker 2: You know, well, the thing is we lost this time,
- 5:22Speaker 2: but only because the Vikings won. So that could happen again.
- 5:26Speaker 3: But you've picked, both of you have picked the win
- 5:28Speaker 3: in week one and the loss in week two.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Yeah, but then in coming weeks we start splitting up
- 5:33Speaker 2: actually quite a bit.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Yeah, we do kind of go in different directions for
- 5:37Speaker 1: a while, so it'll be interesting. We'll cover that at
- 5:39Speaker 1: the end of the episode.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Yeah, got it.
- 5:41Speaker 3: All right.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Well, guess what time it is now, boys?
- 5:45Speaker 1: Beer time.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Beer time. All right, so today we've got from Back
- 5:49Speaker 2: Pocket Brewing out of, are they in Waterloo?
- 5:52Speaker 1: No, Coralville.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, okay.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Iowa City.
- 5:56Speaker 3: They actually are now in Waterloo because Single Speed took
- 5:59Speaker 3: them over.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay. I forgot about that.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got their Hawktoberfest. So this one is
- 6:07Speaker 2: kind of a little spite in front of the show
- 6:10Speaker 2: forest a little bit.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Kick a man when he's down.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I'm a Hawk fan. I'm an Iowa fan. And Forrest,
- 6:18Speaker 2: while you are definitely a Bears fan, true and true,
- 6:21Speaker 2: you're way more of a Michigan fan. And this week
- 6:24Speaker 2: is Iowa-Michigan.
- 6:26Speaker 3: It is, up in Ann Arbor.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not going to turn this into an
- 6:30Speaker 2: Iowa podcast, but I think we all know the outcome
- 6:33Speaker 2: of that game is going to be favorable for you
- 6:36Speaker 2: and not for me, but that's okay.
- 6:37Speaker 3: You never know. It's football.
- 6:38Speaker 2: That is true.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Football is football.
- 6:40Speaker 2: But either way, we get to drink some awesome Oktoberfest
- 6:44Speaker 2: themed for the Hawkeyes. I think we've had this before, Ev?
- 6:46Speaker 1: Episode 7. Ooh, a long time ago.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Go back and listen to that one. See if our
- 6:50Speaker 2: opinions are the same now as they were then. So
- 6:53Speaker 2: here we go. Skol.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Skol. Definitely a good Oktoberfest beer. Can't beat it.
- 7:04Speaker 3: It's malty. It's solid.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And not too heavy. It's not trying to be too
- 7:10Speaker 2: much of a crazy Oktoberfest. It's just good. I think, what, 5.3%
- 7:17Speaker 2: nice crisp. Definitely an Oktoberfest. The flavor's there. But it's
- 7:21Speaker 2: not like it's a one and done or two and done.
- 7:25Speaker 2: You can enjoy a good Oktoberfest with a handful of these. Um,
- 7:29Speaker 2: we were just at an Oktoberfest, uh, you and I recently, uh,
- 7:32Speaker 2: we did not have the Oktoberfest. I don't even know
- 7:34Speaker 2: if that was offered. Um, but yeah, it definitely would
- 7:38Speaker 2: have gone down pretty good there too. So yeah, nothing
- 7:41Speaker 2: wrong with it. Uh, I'm sure that those were our
- 7:43Speaker 2: opinions last time we had it. So really excited to
- 7:45Speaker 2: have a few more on the episode tonight.
- 7:48Speaker 1: And I think I can remain a little bit more
- 7:50Speaker 1: neutral in the Hawks versus Michigan game. Uh, not that
- 7:55Speaker 1: I'm anti Hawkeyes. Nor am I, like, anti-Michigan, really. I
- 7:59Speaker 1: live in Iowa. I'll root for the Hawkeyes probably because
- 8:02Speaker 1: I live in Iowa.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Sure.
- 8:04Speaker 1: But, you know, you and I is my team. You
- 8:07Speaker 1: and I got absolutely handled by Iowa this last week.
- 8:11Speaker 1: It was 55-0. But, you know, you win some, you
- 8:14Speaker 1: lose some.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a post from Northern Iowa Athletics. celebrating
- 8:20Speaker 2: how many first downs they got in that game. That's
- 8:23Speaker 2: how bad it was. You've got to find ways to celebrate,
- 8:26Speaker 2: I guess, boys. But luckily, we are not here to
- 8:30Speaker 2: talk about the Hawkeyes, the Wolverines, or the UNI Panthers.
- 8:33Speaker 1: We are here to talk about the Vikings and how
- 8:37Speaker 1: they beat Friend of the Show for us. Chicago Bears
- 8:40Speaker 1: it was an ugly game uh my gosh nine to
- 8:43Speaker 1: three it was rainy the whole time um and it
- 8:46Speaker 1: was ugly for more than one reason Caleb Williams went
- 8:48Speaker 1: down with an injury um which we can talk about
- 8:51Speaker 1: there's definitely some opinions about that um there's some discussion
- 8:57Speaker 1: to be had maybe about the number of red zone
- 8:59Speaker 1: trips each team made um I think there's a discussion
- 9:03Speaker 1: to be had about uh the Vikings kicker and how
- 9:06Speaker 1: good he is.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
- 9:08Speaker 1: He's still perfect this year, but let's start off with
- 9:11Speaker 1: roses and thorns. So you'll remember this from last year forest.
- 9:15Speaker 1: We like to look at the highlights, the good things,
- 9:18Speaker 1: which we call roses. And of course the bad things,
- 9:20Speaker 1: which we call thorns. Um, I'll start. I had some
- 9:25Speaker 1: long winded responses this week. I'm a little bit shorter
- 9:28Speaker 1: in the tooth with my roses and thorns, but I
- 9:30Speaker 1: still have a few. I can't just like boil it
- 9:32Speaker 1: down to one. Okay. Um, cause I think there's a
- 9:34Speaker 1: lot to be excited about. about the vikings this year
- 9:37Speaker 1: and i'll start by saying it will to thrill he
- 9:40Speaker 1: was perfect he remains perfect yeah and he is i
- 9:45Speaker 1: think he's an elite kicker i think we have arguably
- 9:47Speaker 1: the best kicker in the league i think if we
- 9:49Speaker 1: can keep him healthy um the sky's the limit to
- 9:52Speaker 1: rebuttal that one um and yeah go we can we
- 9:55Speaker 1: can definitely go nine rounds on that if we want
- 9:59Speaker 1: uh another row is that the vikings are two and
- 10:01Speaker 1: oh and they're two and oh against divisional rivals uh
- 10:05Speaker 1: that feels really good like it feels like we're almost
- 10:08Speaker 1: like halfway to the playoffs already Like, I know.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It's a long season, man. I'm excited, too.
- 10:14Speaker 1: There's a little bit of hyperbole there, but I'm excited.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I'm really high on the Vikings right now, and I
- 10:19Speaker 1: think the biggest reason to be high on the Vikings
- 10:21Speaker 1: is the defense. This defense proved in this game by
- 10:24Speaker 1: not allowing the 59-point Bears in Week 2 a touchdown
- 10:29Speaker 1: at all. Now, I know the conditions weren't ideal, but
- 10:33Speaker 1: that says something. When they put up 59 the week
- 10:35Speaker 1: before and they come in at their place and can't
- 10:38Speaker 1: even score a touchdown... that tells me that we've got
- 10:42Speaker 1: a really, really good defense on our hands. Those are
- 10:45Speaker 1: my roses.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I'll go next just because I want to preface the
- 10:49Speaker 2: whole rest of this episode with this fact. I know
- 10:54Speaker 2: that this game was a slop fest for both teams.
- 10:58Speaker 2: The weather dictated so much of this game. It would
- 11:02Speaker 2: have been a completely different, whether the Vikings still won
- 11:05Speaker 2: or lost or whatever. Yeah. The game would have been
- 11:07Speaker 2: completely different if it was sunny and 75 and perfect conditions.
- 11:13Speaker 2: So we all know that. We know that this wasn't
- 11:16Speaker 2: like a 17-point obliteration by the Vikings. This wasn't one
- 11:21Speaker 2: where Bears fans forced you to come away thinking, well,
- 11:26Speaker 2: obviously our team is the worst because the Vikings absolutely
- 11:29Speaker 2: demolished us. That's just not the facts. It was a
- 11:33Speaker 2: touchdown-less game. Um, there was some goods on both sides,
- 11:37Speaker 2: really bads on both sides, horrific injury, maybe. Um, but it,
- 11:44Speaker 2: the truth to be told, like it, this wasn't a
- 11:46Speaker 2: beat down. This was a hard fought game and glad
- 11:50Speaker 2: for Evan and my sake, our team came out on
- 11:53Speaker 2: the winning side, but it could have easily gone any,
- 11:55Speaker 2: any side having prefaced all that. Here's my roses. I
- 12:00Speaker 2: enjoyed the running game. I think in this game, in
- 12:02Speaker 2: this kind of game where the, the, Field, which Soldier
- 12:06Speaker 2: Field is notorious for not having the highest quality field.
- 12:11Speaker 2: It's an outdoor stadium in the elements. It's pretty tough
- 12:14Speaker 2: for them to have a pristine field all the time.
- 12:18Speaker 2: And it was super rainy. It had been rainy there
- 12:20Speaker 2: for days, continued throughout the day. So those are the
- 12:23Speaker 2: kind of games you want to have a solid run game.
- 12:26Speaker 2: And I think Aaron Jones should be celebrated heavily for
- 12:31Speaker 2: his performance and Um, it's just, it was a good day.
- 12:35Speaker 2: You get a hundred yards, uh, and he, he gutted
- 12:37Speaker 2: it out through, through a few injuries. At one point
- 12:40Speaker 2: he was questionable to come back into the game because
- 12:42Speaker 2: of a knee injury, I guess. Um, but he did
- 12:44Speaker 2: come back and he, he was one of the defining
- 12:46Speaker 2: reasons that the Vikings were able to, to hold it
- 12:49Speaker 2: out and come away with a victory. So that's my rose. Forrest,
- 12:52Speaker 2: do you, do you, do you got any roses?
- 12:55Speaker 3: Oh, I always have, I always have roses. I mean,
- 12:57Speaker 3: you gotta look at it from, like you stated, um,
- 13:00Speaker 3: Sloppy game. I don't think either team... I mean, you
- 13:03Speaker 3: can say both defenses played really well, actually. But I
- 13:08Speaker 3: guess you kind of expect that, knowing it's going to
- 13:10Speaker 3: be a run-heavy game. You can kind of hone in
- 13:14Speaker 3: a little bit more like that. I thought the Bears
- 13:17Speaker 3: did as good as they should have, holding you guys still.
- 13:21Speaker 3: No touchdowns. I mean, Josh Jefferson was held in check overall. So, yeah,
- 13:27Speaker 3: you guys just obviously... had a better defense i mean
- 13:31Speaker 3: and no turnovers like or we so it all came
- 13:34Speaker 3: down to that yeah yeah i mean but the road
- 13:37Speaker 3: i was gonna say my rose would be the fact
- 13:41Speaker 3: that the bears still i think like i said i
- 13:44Speaker 3: don't get a bad feeling i mean barring injury and
- 13:49Speaker 3: everything i think the bears are still a very good
- 13:52Speaker 3: team and uh i don't feel like you guys ran
- 13:56Speaker 3: away with it um Like we said at the beginning
- 13:59Speaker 3: of the season, it's going to be a tough division.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 14:02Speaker 3: And this game showed it.
- 14:03Speaker 1: It came down to the last second. I mean, there
- 14:05Speaker 1: was one second on the clock. The Bears had the
- 14:07Speaker 1: ball at the 12-yard line and were threatening to score
- 14:10Speaker 1: before Dallas Turner sacked Tyson Bajent for the final play
- 14:14Speaker 1: of the game. But, I mean, we were kind of
- 14:16Speaker 1: sitting there on pins and needles as Vikings fans, like,
- 14:19Speaker 1: what's going to happen? Is this going to be one
- 14:21Speaker 1: of those historic games that the Vikings lose in a
- 14:24Speaker 1: one-possession scenario? even though we didn't turn the ball over
- 14:27Speaker 1: at all. And even though we won the turnover battle overall,
- 14:30Speaker 1: like all those things that we've kind of been tracking
- 14:32Speaker 1: as Vikings fans. Um, yeah, it, it, it came down
- 14:36Speaker 1: to the last second. So the bears, the bears hung
- 14:39Speaker 1: in there despite some setbacks and the weather of course
- 14:43Speaker 1: was just bad.
- 14:44Speaker 2: So absolutely. Um, Forrest, do you want to run it
- 14:48Speaker 2: back with Thorns?
- 14:49Speaker 3: Sure.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Sure.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Um, besides obviously losing. And, you know, I think we'll
- 14:54Speaker 3: talk about injury. That's definitely a thorn specifically for the bears.
- 14:58Speaker 3: I mean, if Kayla Williams is not able to go
- 15:01Speaker 3: for several weeks, that's a huge hindrance. And hearing that
- 15:05Speaker 3: Tyson Bajan is, you know, concussion protocol. So we're on
- 15:08Speaker 3: QB three potentially going into week three. So definitely that thorn.
- 15:13Speaker 3: But for me, the big thorn was the penalties. Like,
- 15:18Speaker 3: We had bears move in, and then penalties just stopped
- 15:24Speaker 3: momentum several times. So, brought us out of field goal range,
- 15:28Speaker 3: you know, back in the red zone. Just stupid, stupid penalties.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Eight penalties for 58 yards on the bears. Three for
- 15:36Speaker 1: 25 on the Vikings.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure... the bears starting center garrett
- 15:41Speaker 2: bradbury had at least four of those penalties yeah former
- 15:46Speaker 2: vikings so i think i saw somebody tweet um well
- 15:49Speaker 2: it took eight years but finally garrett bradbury is helping
- 15:51Speaker 2: the vikings.
- 15:52Speaker 3: We need to bring bring logan from the hawkeyes they
- 15:55Speaker 3: drafted him in the second round yeah it may be
- 15:58Speaker 3: earlier in the season that we start seeing him so.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Yeah maybe now i Again, I said this a little
- 16:05Speaker 2: bit before, but with the weather in this game, you
- 16:07Speaker 2: almost throw the whole game out. You can't really figure
- 16:11Speaker 2: out who either team is just based on that weather.
- 16:15Speaker 2: You can say, oh, this guy played good, or hey,
- 16:18Speaker 2: he toughed it out, but overall, you can't really self-scout
- 16:22Speaker 2: or really scout either team at all from their performance
- 16:26Speaker 2: in this game. So that's kind of my thorn, is
- 16:30Speaker 2: that we're We're kind of unsure who the Vikings are.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Through two games in this season, we've seen 11 plays
- 16:40Speaker 2: of Kyler Murray, who was the announced starter at quarterback
- 16:45Speaker 2: before the season. So we don't really know if we've
- 16:48Speaker 2: seen the Vikings' offense as designed with him as quarterback.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, I think, has played... admirably as the backup quarterback. Um,
- 16:59Speaker 2: but we've seen a ceiling, you know, we're going to
- 17:01Speaker 2: see some, some good pre-snap adjustments. He's going to read
- 17:06Speaker 2: the field, but then he's going to take a while
- 17:08Speaker 2: to get to his first read, then a second read,
- 17:10Speaker 2: then it gets sacked or, you know, like we we've
- 17:12Speaker 2: seen what he can do and it's, it's good enough
- 17:14Speaker 2: in game if he needs to come in. But, um, overall,
- 17:18Speaker 2: and now we're down RB one, uh, Jordan Mason, uh,
- 17:21Speaker 2: He might be RB1. You can make the argument between
- 17:24Speaker 2: Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason who RB1 is. So I
- 17:28Speaker 2: don't really know who this team is, and that's kind
- 17:31Speaker 2: of frustrating because I don't know what to expect next week,
- 17:34Speaker 2: the week after, how this season's going to go. So
- 17:37Speaker 2: I'm excited for the team, but I'm tempering my expectations
- 17:40Speaker 2: because they could be terrible. You never know.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Yeah, my thorn kind of comes off of what you've said,
- 17:46Speaker 1: but I know we have differing opinions on this, and
- 17:49Speaker 1: so I'm interested to hear your take. because you mentioned
- 17:53Speaker 1: that Carson played okay. At first you used a really
- 17:57Speaker 1: strong adjective to say he played admirably, and then you
- 18:00Speaker 1: kind of backed away from that, and you said he
- 18:02Speaker 1: did what he needed to do. And I think I
- 18:04Speaker 1: want to remind you what a friend of the show, Dustin,
- 18:08Speaker 1: said a while ago. I forget when this was, but
- 18:11Speaker 1: I want to say that he said on our show
- 18:14Speaker 1: that whoever the Vikings get in that quarterback position, they
- 18:19Speaker 1: just need to manage the game. right? They just need
- 18:22Speaker 1: to come in and manage the game and they need
- 18:23Speaker 1: to do it Kevin O'Connell's way, right? And we've seen
- 18:27Speaker 1: some flashes of that. We saw a little bit, like
- 18:30Speaker 1: it seemed like before Kirk Cousins went down with his
- 18:32Speaker 1: Achilles injury, he and Kevin O'Connell were starting to get
- 18:36Speaker 1: on the same page. They were clicking. We were kind
- 18:38Speaker 1: of really hopeful that season that the Vikings were going
- 18:41Speaker 1: to go do some big things. And then he went
- 18:43Speaker 1: down with his injury. And then it was this carousel
- 18:45Speaker 1: of quarterbacks after that. And you brought in Josh Dobbs
- 18:48Speaker 1: for a game and a half of really great play,
- 18:52Speaker 1: only to see that kind of fade away. And the
- 18:55Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, too, I think, in some ways. We've seen
- 18:59Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell work some magic. But I think what we
- 19:03Speaker 1: saw these last two games and what we saw last
- 19:06Speaker 1: year in five games with Carson Wentz was we saw
- 19:09Speaker 1: a solid game manager. Now, if you're a game manager quarterback,
- 19:13Speaker 1: are you going to win all of those games? Probably not.
- 19:16Speaker 1: He went 2-3 last year. He went 2-0 this year.
- 19:19Speaker 1: So his overall record as a starter, as a Viking,
- 19:21Speaker 1: is 4-3. He's a winning quarterback for the Vikings.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Just because somebody's going to comment, he technically didn't start
- 19:29Speaker 2: the first game.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Okay.
- 19:31Speaker 2: So technically. But you're right.
- 19:33Speaker 1: You're right. You're right.
- 19:34Speaker 3: He played after the first two series of the game.
- 19:38Speaker 1: He gets credit for the win in my book.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.
- 19:41Speaker 1: That won't go on the stat sheet, and I get that.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Kyler will get the win, even though all he did
- 19:45Speaker 1: was throw an interception and then go out after 11 plays.
- 19:48Speaker 1: My thorn is that... kyler murray has already been named
- 19:52Speaker 1: the starter for week three going to tampa bay and
- 19:56Speaker 1: i think that's a big problem and it kind of
- 19:58Speaker 1: couples off of what you just said because we're unsure
- 20:00Speaker 1: who the vikings are and i think kevin o'connell's unsure
- 20:03Speaker 1: who his starting quarterback is i am not super pumped
- 20:07Speaker 1: about kyler murray taking over his qb1 coming off of
- 20:11Speaker 1: the injury he just had and playing the way he
- 20:14Speaker 1: played in 11 plays he didn't you texted me right
- 20:17Speaker 1: away he looks uncomfortable he looks like he doesn't know
- 20:20Speaker 1: what he's doing and we can sit here and complain
- 20:23Speaker 1: all day long about carson wentz hangs onto the ball
- 20:26Speaker 1: too long oh he's not elite he's not this or
- 20:29Speaker 1: that but You know what he is? He's a good
- 20:31Speaker 1: game manager and he wins games and he got the ball.
- 20:34Speaker 1: He's been forcing the ball to Justin Jefferson and Justin
- 20:37Speaker 1: Jefferson's hungry right now. He wants the ball. He wants
- 20:40Speaker 1: to be a contributor, especially after the downfall that was
- 20:44Speaker 1: last season. So I know I'm getting long in the tooth,
- 20:47Speaker 1: but Carson Wentz hasn't turned the ball over this season.
- 20:50Speaker 1: He's managed the offense. Well, he went to a no,
- 20:53Speaker 1: I think it's a mistake to start Kyler Murray. That's
- 20:55Speaker 1: my thorn. Uh, And it's a thorn for the Bears
- 20:59Speaker 1: game because I thought Carson Wentz did enough in that
- 21:01Speaker 1: game to put the Vikings in position for Will the
- 21:04Speaker 1: Thrill to go out and kick three field goals, which
- 21:06Speaker 1: was the difference in the game. Why not give him
- 21:09Speaker 1: another chance and give Kyler at least another week to
- 21:13Speaker 1: recover and take more first-team reps with the offense in practice?
- 21:18Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:18Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 21:19Speaker 2: I see your point. I think a lot of people
- 21:21Speaker 2: may agree with you. I'm not one of them.
- 21:24Speaker 1: I don't think.
- 21:26Speaker 2: you can trust Carson Wentz throughout the season. I wanted
- 21:30Speaker 2: to do it, but I didn't. We could probably go
- 21:32Speaker 2: back to our very show less than a year ago
- 21:35Speaker 2: after a few games of Carson Wentz saying, hey, I mean,
- 21:38Speaker 2: I know he threw for 200 yards a couple of
- 21:40Speaker 2: those games, but it was not great. He's a game manager.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Everything you said was right. Kevin O'Connell needs a game manager.
- 21:49Speaker 2: And Carson Wentz seems to fit in that mold of
- 21:52Speaker 2: quarterback that succeeds in Kevin O'Connell's offense. but he's like
- 21:56Speaker 2: the lower tier of that. I mean, you say he
- 21:59Speaker 2: didn't turn anything over. He threw two picks. One was
- 22:02Speaker 2: taken back for penalty, and the other one, if not
- 22:05Speaker 2: for a downpour, that Bears linebacker would have had it.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to agree with Austin on this one.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Look at the two games. Yes, he technically led his
- 22:15Speaker 3: team to victory both times, but think about three quarters
- 22:19Speaker 3: plus of that Packers game. He didn't look that great.
- 22:23Speaker 3: And honestly, with the weather, I don't think he did
- 22:26Speaker 3: enough to drive his team to get field goals. But
- 22:29Speaker 3: nothing on that game said, this guy can lead the Vikings.
- 22:34Speaker 3: And I'm not saying, you know, I'd love to see,
- 22:36Speaker 3: I think, Carson Wentz. Because I think the Vikings will
- 22:40Speaker 3: suffer if he stays QB1 a lot longer. But that's
- 22:45Speaker 3: just my personal take on it.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Time will tell. Because even if Kyler's fully healthy... The
- 22:51Speaker 2: chances of him being perfect the rest of the way
- 22:54Speaker 2: through are pretty low. Just like the chances of anybody
- 22:57Speaker 2: being perfect. I mean, Matt Stafford's not perfect, you know.
- 23:00Speaker 2: But we'll see. Kevin O'Connell does seem to wait too
- 23:04Speaker 2: long to switch out a quarterback.
- 23:06Speaker 3: I mean, the odds are that Carson Wentz will again
- 23:11Speaker 3: start or be the QB because... I have no faith
- 23:15Speaker 3: that Kyler Murray can make it the rest of the season.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Yeah, health-wise.
- 23:19Speaker 3: And stay healthy.
- 23:20Speaker 2: He may get carted off the field at one point
- 23:22Speaker 2: if he stubs his toe or somebody sneezes within 50
- 23:25Speaker 2: yards of him.
- 23:25Speaker 3: I mean, the only one more injury-prone lately is Jane Daniels,
- 23:30Speaker 3: I think. Oh, yeah. And that dude is like Mr. Glass,
- 23:33Speaker 3: I think.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Well, can we talk for just a second about Caleb Williams?
- 23:37Speaker 1: I feel like we just– I don't want to like–
- 23:38Speaker 1: We can. I don't want to just like pile on
- 23:41Speaker 1: to that whole thing. But I want your thoughts because
- 23:44Speaker 1: I watched an interesting video today. It was some podcast.
- 23:49Speaker 1: And they were talking about the etiquette of being injured
- 23:53Speaker 1: and being carted off the field. And they claimed that
- 23:57Speaker 1: Caleb Williams broke the etiquette because his injury wasn't severe
- 24:02Speaker 1: enough to be draped in a towel and then pull
- 24:05Speaker 1: the towel off and give this. Their claim was, you
- 24:09Speaker 1: do this. If you tore your Achilles, you do that
- 24:13Speaker 1: if you tore your ACL. You do this if you
- 24:16Speaker 1: were knocked out cold, concussed, and you're now conscious again.
- 24:21Speaker 1: We thought you were dead. That's reserved for just a
- 24:25Speaker 1: few moments in football. It's not reserved for the minor
- 24:31Speaker 1: hamstring pull, tear. We're not sure what it is, but
- 24:35Speaker 1: something like that, where he'll probably come back in a
- 24:37Speaker 1: few weeks. What are your guys' thoughts? I want to know.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Go for it, Austin.
- 24:41Speaker 2: So I'll preface this first, play a little devil's advocate.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I have never tweaked my hamstring. I don't know what
- 24:51Speaker 2: that feels like. I've never pulled it or torn it
- 24:54Speaker 2: or had it explode as if, you know, Caleb Williams'
- 24:57Speaker 2: reaction may lead us to believe. So I don't know.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Maybe it's pretty painful. I have seen, you know, many
- 25:04Speaker 2: a time players on the field in football games that
- 25:08Speaker 2: be completely ragdoll, lifeless on the field, being carted off,
- 25:13Speaker 2: and then as they're strapped to the thing, go into
- 25:16Speaker 2: the ambulance, give that thumbs up, and the stadium goes nuts. So, Evan,
- 25:20Speaker 2: you're right. When a player does something like that, they're
- 25:22Speaker 2: on the cart or something, and they give the thumbs
- 25:25Speaker 2: up to the stadium at home after reacting the way
- 25:29Speaker 2: they did, fans are like, oh man, that's tough. It's
- 25:34Speaker 2: got to be something terrible. It's got to be his Achilles.
- 25:37Speaker 2: And then after the game you hear, Oh, maybe it
- 25:40Speaker 2: might just be a hamstring. And then, you know, the
- 25:42Speaker 2: day after the game, it's like, yeah, sounds like it's
- 25:44Speaker 2: like just the grade one hamstring, whatever, like get it.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Torn apart.
- 25:50Speaker 1: The internet exploded. I mean, the memes that came out.
- 25:54Speaker 2: I saw Viking States.
- 25:55Speaker 3: I don't understand why people are so upset about it.
- 25:58Speaker 2: It's not upset.
- 25:59Speaker 3: I think people are upset there aren't Bears fans. It
- 26:02Speaker 3: wasn't worse because they know the Bears are going to
- 26:05Speaker 3: be much better if Kalen Williams is starting to be.
- 26:08Speaker 2: I can see that point. But the fact is, when
- 26:10Speaker 2: he was crying... getting carted off, doing the tough guy, like,
- 26:15Speaker 2: I'm not crying. Good job, guys. It was like, oh, man,
- 26:19Speaker 2: we might not see Caleb Williams play football until next September. Man,
- 26:24Speaker 2: I feel for that guy. I tweeted from the skull hop.
- 26:27Speaker 2: I feel for Caleb. He's developed into a really good quarterback.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Hope he's okay. And then 12 hours later, it's like, ah,
- 26:36Speaker 2: he got a boo-boo.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Like, okay. All right, big dude.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Like that's, that's crazy. Now let's, let's preface it this
- 26:44Speaker 2: way too. The Vikings just signed a punter to their
- 26:48Speaker 2: practice squad because Brett Thorson, uh, their starting punter suffered
- 26:53Speaker 2: the exact same injury that Kayla Williams did. And we
- 26:57Speaker 2: didn't even hear about it until today, like until a
- 26:59Speaker 2: few days later. So you can't cry your way off
- 27:04Speaker 2: the field because, for anything less than a season-ending injury.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Because he did. I mean, you watch the video, and
- 27:11Speaker 2: he's holding it back.
- 27:12Speaker 3: He's Mr.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Tough Guy. Like, I'm good, guys. Keep going, Bears. It's
- 27:16Speaker 2: just like, oh, my goodness.
- 27:19Speaker 1: I think we need to take that little sound bite
- 27:20Speaker 1: right there and put that over the video of Caleb
- 27:24Speaker 1: Williams being carted off the field. I think that would
- 27:26Speaker 1: be amazing. I'll work on that this week.
- 27:28Speaker 2: Please do. But truthfully, you watch his reaction. Because even
- 27:31Speaker 2: before that, he was– He went down untouched. It looked
- 27:35Speaker 2: like a Viking tripped him up, but I think he
- 27:37Speaker 2: was pretty well untouched.
- 27:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he's untouched.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Grabbing his leg. People are like, oh, man, it looks...
- 27:42Speaker 2: Was that his Achilles? And then he's grabbing his face mask,
- 27:45Speaker 2: and you hear him on TV, screaming and crying. We've
- 27:50Speaker 2: all experienced some pain. We've all stubbed our toe or
- 27:55Speaker 2: actual worse pain in our lives. And we know when
- 27:59Speaker 2: something's like, golly, like... You know when something really hurts,
- 28:03Speaker 2: so it probably did hurt for a second. But that
- 28:06Speaker 2: was overkill. And because it was a 2 and he
- 28:11Speaker 2: reacted as if it was a 100, that's where it's
- 28:14Speaker 2: super funny to laugh at him now. And I think
- 28:16Speaker 2: we're okay to laugh at.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Him because he's perfectly fine. You're more than allowed to laugh.
- 28:20Speaker 2: He was walking around in the locker room after the game.
- 28:22Speaker 3: And you know who was, you know, excited? Bears fans.
- 28:26Speaker 3: To see that it wasn't as serious of an injury. I...
- 28:31Speaker 3: I think personally, because I can't remember a time that
- 28:34Speaker 3: I pulled a hamstring to a point where it's considered
- 28:38Speaker 3: level one, level.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Two, whatever. Yeah, yeah.
- 28:40Speaker 3: I think it really is excruciatingly pain right when you
- 28:43Speaker 3: do it. Just like you said, when you stub your
- 28:46Speaker 3: toe or bang your elbow on something, it hurts a lot. And,
- 28:50Speaker 3: you know, after a little bit, it tends to, you know,
- 28:54Speaker 3: feel a little bit better.
- 28:55Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Maybe there's good trainers back there that have magic hands
- 29:00Speaker 3: that made it feel a lot better. I don't know.
- 29:02Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is I.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Don't care that people are laughing because the sooner he
- 29:08Speaker 3: gets back on the field, the sooner he's going to
- 29:10Speaker 3: have material to show the world once again why he's
- 29:14Speaker 3: one of the better quarterbacks in the league now. And
- 29:16Speaker 3: let's be honest, during that game, you were scared a
- 29:19Speaker 3: few times when he was taking off and extending plays. Oh, yeah.
- 29:23Speaker 3: So let's give credit. While you think he's a crybaby,
- 29:28Speaker 3: he's an elite athlete when he's at his prime.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:32Speaker 3: But I will also say, to bring this full circle,
- 29:36Speaker 3: look back at when I was on the podcast before
- 29:39Speaker 3: we drafted Caleb. williams i was not a kayla williams
- 29:41Speaker 3: fan did not like his antics in college and this
- 29:44Speaker 3: is the stuff that kind of reminds me of those
- 29:47Speaker 3: college days when he does these theatrical type things so
- 29:51Speaker 3: yes it did have a flashback but am i happy
- 29:54Speaker 3: that it's a less severe Hamstring? Absolutely.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Rooting for this to be it.
- 29:58Speaker 3: No, I don't take it as you're rooting for injury.
- 30:01Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's funny how the opposite team or
- 30:05Speaker 3: division rivals or anyone that's not a Bears fan take this.
- 30:09Speaker 3: And same way if it was the Vikings player like
- 30:12Speaker 3: Kyler Murray, if it was obviously his concussion was a
- 30:16Speaker 3: big hit.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:18Speaker 3: Anything like that is going to become a meme and everything.
- 30:21Speaker 1: So I think, I think if we were sitting here
- 30:24Speaker 1: after maybe like the week one game against the Packers
- 30:27Speaker 1: and you were with us and Jordan Love went down
- 30:29Speaker 1: with a similar injury, I think all of us would
- 30:31Speaker 1: be like, that's the funniest thing I've seen in a
- 30:34Speaker 1: long time.
- 30:34Speaker 3: Sure.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Like he made this big deal out of something so small.
- 30:37Speaker 1: He got carted off the field. Lambeau went nuts when
- 30:40Speaker 1: he did this, you know, whatever. So I definitely think
- 30:43Speaker 1: it's a little bit subjective to your team, right?
- 30:45Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Um, but, I'm going to just wrap this up by
- 30:49Speaker 1: saying I did not feel that way. I did not
- 30:52Speaker 1: feel like, oh man, just you wait. fans from other
- 30:56Speaker 1: teams because kyler murray's gonna come back with a vengeance
- 30:59Speaker 1: i wasn't thinking that i was actually like i was
- 31:01Speaker 1: excited that he went out.
- 31:03Speaker 6: Well that's the difference between your team he threw an
- 31:06Speaker 6: interception on his first pass as a viking like i
- 31:09Speaker 6: i was okay i'm i'm not okay with him getting
- 31:12Speaker 6: hurt i'm not okay with that fact like.
- 31:13Speaker 1: You don't want to see injury on anybody i'm happy
- 31:16Speaker 1: he's recovered quickly i think the nfl has done a
- 31:18Speaker 1: good job of refining their concussion protocol process So I'm
- 31:24Speaker 1: hopeful that he's healthy and good and he can avoid
- 31:27Speaker 1: long-term stuff. You're probably going to get a concussion at
- 31:30Speaker 1: least once in your football career, if not multiple times.
- 31:33Speaker 1: That's just part of the inherent risk of playing the game.
- 31:36Speaker 1: But all that to say, like, I was on the
- 31:38Speaker 1: opposite end of the spectrum when Kyler Murray got hurt.
- 31:41Speaker 3: I mean, Kyler was, I mean, you had to take
- 31:44Speaker 3: the odds on favorite that he, maybe it wasn't week one,
- 31:47Speaker 3: but I would say in the first, like, three, four games,
- 31:50Speaker 3: he was going to get injured.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've said that. When we said that, we
- 31:54Speaker 2: were saying, hey, J.J. McCarthy's going to play because he's
- 31:56Speaker 2: going to get injured.
- 31:57Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is, like you said, he
- 32:00Speaker 3: played so poorly in the 11 snaps or whatever that
- 32:03Speaker 3: he did, and then to get injured. Of course, you're
- 32:06Speaker 3: not happy that he's injured, but you're not mad because
- 32:10Speaker 3: it means give someone else a shot. They can't do
- 32:13Speaker 3: any worse.
- 32:14Speaker 1: And this is why I'm upset that Kyler's going to
- 32:17Speaker 1: start in week three. But that's beside the point. Let's
- 32:20Speaker 1: get to game balls here. Austin? Who gets your game ball?
- 32:25Speaker 2: My game ball goes to those Bears training staff that
- 32:31Speaker 2: worked God-level miracle. No, I'm just kidding. Game ball for me,
- 32:34Speaker 2: and Evan, I feel like I might be stealing this
- 32:37Speaker 2: a little bit from you based on your roses, but
- 32:39Speaker 2: Will Reichard. He was the only Viking to score points. Yes,
- 32:43Speaker 2: the defense came up big with some turnovers, and some
- 32:47Speaker 2: other guys are deserving of probably some recognition in game balls,
- 32:51Speaker 2: but for me, It's plain and simple. He scored all
- 32:55Speaker 2: the points for the Vikings. There was a doink in there,
- 32:58Speaker 2: but the ball bounced the Vikings way.
- 33:03Speaker 1: No wires like in Europe.
- 33:04Speaker 2: No wires. The wind must have been just perfect. What
- 33:08Speaker 2: did they say in the Mighty Ducks? It was like
- 33:10Speaker 2: the coach was upset when he was a kid because
- 33:13Speaker 2: he hit the crossbar and it went off and he
- 33:15Speaker 2: barely made the shot. And the kid's like, you know what,
- 33:18Speaker 2: if you had If you were just an inch more off,
- 33:20Speaker 2: it wouldn't have even hit the crossbar. So Will Reichert,
- 33:23Speaker 2: he did just enough to get the ball in three times.
- 33:26Speaker 2: He's perfect on the year, mostly perfect in his career.
- 33:29Speaker 2: He gets my game ball.
- 33:31Speaker 1: I'll go next. My game ball is going to Brian
- 33:34Speaker 1: Flores and this Vikings defense. And you didn't steal my
- 33:38Speaker 1: thunder because in my roses, yes, I mentioned Will the Thrill,
- 33:42Speaker 1: but I also mentioned about this defense and how it's elite.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I think Brian Flores is the mastermind behind it. We
- 33:48Speaker 1: talked a lot about it last week after the week
- 33:50Speaker 1: one victory against the Packers at home. They blitzed on
- 33:55Speaker 1: 82% of their snaps against the Packers, which was absolutely maniacal.
- 34:00Speaker 1: But it worked, and it got the win. And I
- 34:03Speaker 1: don't know what the percentage was against the Bears, but
- 34:05Speaker 1: they blitzed a lot against the Bears too.
- 34:07Speaker 2: It was very similar.
- 34:08Speaker 1: And it worked. And I don't know that we're going
- 34:11Speaker 1: to sustain that long term anymore. But I still hold
- 34:13Speaker 1: to my theory that I held to last week that
- 34:16Speaker 1: Harrison Smith has been brought in for a specific reason.
- 34:20Speaker 1: He's a mercenary. He's been brought in to just cast
- 34:26Speaker 1: his shadow on the line of scrimmage and just mess
- 34:28Speaker 1: with the opposing quarterback's head. That's why he's there. I'm
- 34:32Speaker 1: convinced of that. And I think Brian Flores is just
- 34:35Speaker 1: grinning the whole time. And you saw Brian Flores. walk
- 34:39Speaker 1: off the field. There was that clip of him just
- 34:41Speaker 1: getting really animated with the Vikings fans at Soldier Field.
- 34:46Speaker 1: You don't see that out of him a lot. He's
- 34:48Speaker 1: a pretty behind-the-scenes kind of guy. You don't see him
- 34:51Speaker 1: a lot in press conferences or anything. But I think
- 34:56Speaker 1: he's pumped about where this Vikings defense is. I'm pumped
- 34:59Speaker 1: about this Vikings defense. I just hope that the offense
- 35:02Speaker 1: can continue to make strides and build and improve. That's
- 35:06Speaker 1: just another reason why I'm hoping that They just stick
- 35:08Speaker 1: with the hot hand in Carson Wentz, and they don't
- 35:10Speaker 1: just turn it right back over to Kyler to go
- 35:12Speaker 1: right back to pot. Who's your game ball going to, Forrest?
- 35:16Speaker 3: Oh, man. So hard in this type of game to
- 35:20Speaker 3: give a game ball. Like I said earlier, though, I
- 35:22Speaker 3: think the defense overall played well under the conditions, but
- 35:26Speaker 3: specifically our two freshmen or rookies, I say freshmen, but rookies, Thinaman, Mohamed,
- 35:34Speaker 3: I think they held their own, showed good strides there.
- 35:37Speaker 3: So I'm excited to continue to see how they build
- 35:40Speaker 3: their game.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, this game, I mean, it's not
- 35:46Speaker 2: like you can scout the teams at all. Either team
- 35:50Speaker 2: could keep going undefeated the rest of the year or
- 35:53Speaker 2: be garbage. You just don't know who these teams are
- 35:56Speaker 2: after this game. It's such a crapshoot of a game.
- 35:59Speaker 5: Correct.
- 36:00Speaker 2: It's it's hard to really.
- 36:02Speaker 3: I i will say i i mean penny i don't
- 36:05Speaker 3: know do we play you guys last game of the
- 36:07Speaker 3: season i'll look it up yeah so it's gonna be
- 36:10Speaker 3: a long time before we see each other again could
- 36:13Speaker 3: be completely different makeups of the team yeah obviously we
- 36:16Speaker 3: don't have to worry about weather because it's gonna be
- 36:18Speaker 3: in minnesota who knows you know how the teams are
- 36:22Speaker 3: playing at that point but I think it's going to
- 36:25Speaker 3: be a much different game. Oh, yeah. I expect much
- 36:30Speaker 3: more of a higher score. I think both offenses can
- 36:35Speaker 3: produce points depending on what your QB play ends up being,
- 36:39Speaker 3: but obviously you have the weapons to back it up.
- 36:43Speaker 1: This reminds me of something. This is a little bit
- 36:45Speaker 1: of a digression, but didn't we have a Malort bet.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Where if.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Either team lost, we had to take a shot of Malort.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Am I making that up, or is that real?
- 37:00Speaker 2: There's something to it. You might be right. However, I
- 37:04Speaker 2: would feel like a massive jerk if I was like, hey, Forrest,
- 37:07Speaker 2: you're taking a shot of Malort right now.
- 37:09Speaker 3: I don't agree to this.
- 37:11Speaker 1: The only reason I ask, because we still have a
- 37:13Speaker 1: bottle of Malort.
- 37:14Speaker 3: It's right here. I believe what you're recalling, Evan, is
- 37:17Speaker 3: last year, I can't remember. Was it because we played
- 37:22Speaker 3: you week one last year and the Bears lost and
- 37:26Speaker 3: then the Bears won?
- 37:27Speaker 2: Well, and we were live streaming during that game. Yeah.
- 37:30Speaker 2: The three of us were.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 37:31Speaker 3: So I don't know if– I'd have to re-listen to
- 37:35Speaker 3: that episode if maybe I made a bet. or you
- 37:39Speaker 3: talk me into it I don't think this was an
- 37:43Speaker 3: overall bet maybe it.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Was we'll clear the air we're good for tonight.
- 37:48Speaker 2: We're not going to spring a random it'd be different
- 37:52Speaker 2: if you had remembered this like two days ago or
- 37:54Speaker 2: yesterday and like we did make this.
- 37:58Speaker 1: We can't do that I'm not that sinister we're all
- 38:03Speaker 1: friends here week 18 sure The Vikings host the Bears.
- 38:10Speaker 1: What if we make a bet? Okay. A Malort bet.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Is this like two against one? What are we doing here?
- 38:19Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think it's just simple. I think
- 38:21Speaker 1: if the Bears win, we take shots at Malort. Okay.
- 38:25Speaker 1: If the Vikings win, Forrest has to take a shot
- 38:27Speaker 1: at Malort. And you've got to come on the show after.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so it's a given. Bears, you're welcome.
- 38:33Speaker 3: I will agree to that knowing. Full well, you know,
- 38:36Speaker 3: going in, you know, we're talking 16 weeks from now.
- 38:41Speaker 3: You've got four months to prepare yourself. Okay, it's on
- 38:45Speaker 3: the show that the Malort bet is on.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Gentleman's agreement.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Huzzah.
- 38:51Speaker 2: I knew you were going to do that. All right, well,
- 38:55Speaker 2: that's good. That's good. And now we can feel good
- 38:58Speaker 2: about that one. I would have been... Completely against you, Evan,
- 39:03Speaker 2: if you were like, all right, Forrest, take the shot
- 39:04Speaker 2: right now. I don't think that's what you're saying.
- 39:07Speaker 1: No.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Another little dovetail, you betcha on YouTube recently did a
- 39:12Speaker 2: whole video trying to make Malort taste good. And one
- 39:17Speaker 2: of the things they did, they just made a bunch
- 39:18Speaker 2: of cocktails. One was a Malort margarita. But one that
- 39:23Speaker 2: they said wasn't terrible, actually, was a Malort Paloma.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 39:29Speaker 2: And I think they dropped the ball on their video
- 39:31Speaker 2: because they didn't rename these cocktails to be like a Maloma.
- 39:36Speaker 3: I think if you can overtake the aftertaste of Malort with,
- 39:42Speaker 3: like you said, the lime juice, the citrus, it probably
- 39:46Speaker 3: doesn't taste horrible.
- 39:48Speaker 2: I don't mind Malort. So this bet, there's nothing on
- 39:51Speaker 2: the list.
- 39:51Speaker 3: Like I said, I would rather have Malort than, say,
- 39:55Speaker 3: a Jack Daniels. I had bad experience.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Well, that'll do it.
- 40:00Speaker 3: That'll do it. It's not the worst shot. Well, I
- 40:04Speaker 3: like a good bourbon.
- 40:05Speaker 1: Give me whiskey anyway.
- 40:07Speaker 3: Don't get me started. I love a good bourbon, but
- 40:09Speaker 3: when it comes to, like, JD, no. All right.
- 40:14Speaker 2: Well, Evan, I put it in here because we kind
- 40:17Speaker 2: of talked about some stats last week, and maybe we
- 40:19Speaker 2: can– we can finish off this Bears-Vikings game. Talker, looking
- 40:24Speaker 2: at some of these stats again. So at one point,
- 40:28Speaker 2: at least when we were recording our last episode, which
- 40:30Speaker 2: was a few days before, the over-under in Vegas for
- 40:34Speaker 2: this Vikings-Bears game was 48.5 points. They just missed it.
- 40:40Speaker 2: They just barely missed it by, what, a total of
- 40:43Speaker 2: 12 points that they actually scored. Um, and the bears
- 40:48Speaker 2: were favored by four and a half points and the
- 40:50Speaker 2: bears didn't even score four and.
- 40:52Speaker 1: A half points.
- 40:52Speaker 2: So, um, obviously Vegas was a little wrong, but like
- 40:56Speaker 2: we said, a thousand times already, the, the weather has
- 40:59Speaker 2: affected how this game turned out. Carson Wentz was expected
- 41:04Speaker 2: to have somewhere around 220 ish passing yards, two touchdowns. Uh,
- 41:09Speaker 2: you had the stats up. I actually have them up here.
- 41:11Speaker 2: I think Carson Wentz, 143 passing yards and no touchdowns. Um,
- 41:17Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, around 80 yards and a receiving touchdown. He had, what, 55?
- 41:22Speaker 2: That's actually not bad. I thought he got less than that.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, it said about 230 yards passing and a
- 41:29Speaker 2: couple TDs. He had 138. But, again, the weather totally
- 41:34Speaker 2: changed how all of this ended up. I just thought
- 41:38Speaker 2: it was interesting to look back at how Vegas thought
- 41:41Speaker 2: this would go. Obviously, you and I both, in our
- 41:43Speaker 2: preseason predictions, Ev, um, thought the Vikings would lose this game.
- 41:48Speaker 2: And then even as recently as last week before the game,
- 41:51Speaker 2: we both thought they would lose. So, oh, us of
- 41:53Speaker 2: little faith. Um, I'm not mad they won. Um, maybe
- 41:57Speaker 2: I'm a little more excited about this team now that
- 42:00Speaker 2: they're two and oh, um, bears fans should not be
- 42:03Speaker 2: upset about their team. It's, it's a long season and
- 42:06Speaker 2: obviously the bears are good. And, uh, let's hope Caleb
- 42:09Speaker 2: can overcome that, Just horrific injury.
- 42:12Speaker 3: No, use the word you said, boo-boo.
- 42:14Speaker 1: Come on.
- 42:15Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
- 42:16Speaker 2: Defend it.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Defend it.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Let's hope he can get better after that widow boo-boo.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Okay.
- 42:23Speaker 2: It's a long season. It'll be good, and I'm excited
- 42:25Speaker 2: to see how the whole division ends up.
- 42:28Speaker 1: So let's talk really quick just about league-wide standings really
- 42:32Speaker 1: quick because I think there are some interesting teams that
- 42:35Speaker 1: are now 2-0. There's also some interesting teams that are 0-2,
- 42:39Speaker 1: and there's a whole bunch of teams in the middle
- 42:40Speaker 1: that are 1-1. Forrest, I want you to start. Who's
- 42:45Speaker 1: your most surprising 2-0, and who's your most surprising 0-2
- 42:48Speaker 1: in the league?
- 42:50Speaker 2: Oh, man.
- 42:52Speaker 3: Maybe the Vikings, since we're talking about them. I truly
- 42:56Speaker 3: felt like seeing that they were going to play the
- 42:58Speaker 3: Packers and then the Bears, I figured they... would be
- 43:02Speaker 3: one and one at at the very best um so
- 43:06Speaker 3: i would say them but uh looking at the other
- 43:09Speaker 3: list it's got to be the raiders.
- 43:11Speaker 1: I mean yeah it's it's i mean and yeah.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Kurt cousins i mean he's he's doing a good job
- 43:20Speaker 3: and and hey i can appreciate them keeping mendoza on
- 43:25Speaker 3: the bench that's I hate to say it, but that's
- 43:28Speaker 3: the winning strategy that got the Packers so far a
- 43:30Speaker 3: lot of years. Keep your young quarterbacks on the bench
- 43:35Speaker 3: as much as possible early on to learn the game,
- 43:40Speaker 3: take in the playbook. But, yeah, the Raiders for sure.
- 43:44Speaker 3: I think most people would.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Agree, but maybe not.
- 43:47Speaker 1: What about your most surprising 0-2?
- 43:50Speaker 3: Oh, dude, it's got to be the Chargers.
- 43:51Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 43:53Speaker 3: I mean, Jim Harbaugh, Michigan guy, obviously I root for him.
- 43:59Speaker 3: But that's shocking to me. I don't think Justin Herbert's
- 44:02Speaker 3: looked very good. The defense, for sure, hasn't looked good.
- 44:06Speaker 3: So I'm shocked, really.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree on everything you just said. I mean,
- 44:15Speaker 2: the Raiders, who knows? Maybe they end up doing something.
- 44:18Speaker 2: They finally have Clint Kubiak. Is that their head coach? Yep.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Seems to be doing well. It's two games, I know.
- 44:25Speaker 2: We could be, you know, two weeks from now saying
- 44:27Speaker 2: completely different things about the whole league. But, yeah, I mean,
- 44:31Speaker 2: they look pretty good. Ashton Gentry, didn't he catch a
- 44:33Speaker 2: touchdown from Kirk Cousins?
- 44:36Speaker 3: You know, from a guy that was, I know it's
- 44:38Speaker 3: now past week two, but questionable for week one. People
- 44:41Speaker 3: that had early drafts are like, oh, no. Yeah. But, hey,
- 44:45Speaker 3: he came, bounced back, and he's looked pretty good so far.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:49Speaker 2: And then the Chargers, too. They're 0-2 now, but I mean, honestly,
- 44:53Speaker 2: unless somebody big on their team gets injured, excuse me,
- 44:58Speaker 2: Harbaugh has proven to be a good coach. And good coaches,
- 45:01Speaker 2: they battle these things. And they get through adversity. They
- 45:04Speaker 2: coach guys up. And they're not going to end up
- 45:07Speaker 2: in the bottom of the league. I'd be shocked if
- 45:09Speaker 2: they lost six more games this year. They'll end up
- 45:13Speaker 2: being pretty good, and they're going to be a borderline
- 45:15Speaker 2: playoff team like they should be based on their talent.
- 45:19Speaker 1: I think... The most surprising to me 0-2 team is Houston.
- 45:25Speaker 1: The Texans have been really good for the last couple
- 45:28Speaker 1: of years. And you've got coaching. You've got the quarterback.
- 45:31Speaker 1: You've got a defense that's supposed to be pretty good.
- 45:35Speaker 1: And honestly, they're not bad. They're negative 19 right now
- 45:38Speaker 1: on the point differential, which isn't the worst among 0-2 teams.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Didn't week one they lose the Bills, though?
- 45:45Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Bills are a good team.
- 45:46Speaker 3: So the Bills are a good team. But I get
- 45:49Speaker 3: your point.
- 45:49Speaker 1: I'm just saying to be 0-2 at this point I
- 45:52Speaker 1: think is pretty demoralizing for a team like Houston where
- 45:55Speaker 1: they kind of probably expected to be better. And I
- 45:58Speaker 1: think a really surprising 2-0 team is the Cincinnati Bengals.
- 46:03Speaker 1: They just haven't been good the last several years, and
- 46:06Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has been kind of in and out with injury. Yeah.
- 46:10Speaker 1: I don't know. To be 2-0, I don't really know
- 46:12Speaker 1: who they played. I haven't really followed that or paid attention.
- 46:15Speaker 1: But they're plus 20 point differential, 2-0.
- 46:19Speaker 3: I think no one questioned their offense as long as
- 46:22Speaker 3: Joe Burrow could stay healthy. It was their defense the
- 46:25Speaker 3: last several years that has been their Achilles heel.
- 46:29Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people are thinking the
- 46:31Speaker 1: Vikings are a surprise 2-0 team. And even us, we
- 46:36Speaker 1: both predicted them to be 1-1 at this point. um
- 46:39Speaker 1: so to be 2-0 i'm feeling really optimistic about the
- 46:42Speaker 1: vikings and i'm excited.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Um my face is sticky it's just like a film
- 46:50Speaker 2: on my face why is that austin of the the
- 46:53Speaker 2: whipped cream you you got really good coverage all over everything.
- 46:58Speaker 3: Wasn't that the point yes you did fantastic all.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Right um but it's i'm gonna This is like a
- 47:05Speaker 2: showering necessary situation.
- 47:08Speaker 1: I'm going to wash my face before I go to bed. Yeah, yeah.
- 47:11Speaker 2: It could be way worse. But it's uncomfortable. And this
- 47:16Speaker 2: is definitely a punishment. I hope people don't think that
- 47:18Speaker 2: being pied in the face and then immediately washing it
- 47:21Speaker 2: off is not a punishment. It kind of sucks.
- 47:23Speaker 1: And to be fair, we could have taken a different route.
- 47:26Speaker 1: We could have used shaving cream instead of whipped cream.
- 47:31Speaker 1: Whipped cream obviously has a ton of sugar in it,
- 47:33Speaker 1: which is why your face is feeling a little sticky
- 47:36Speaker 1: right now.
- 47:37Speaker 2: And my beard has been longer than it is now.
- 47:40Speaker 2: But it's still there.
- 47:41Speaker 3: It could be worse, like you said.
- 47:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still there.
- 47:43Speaker 1: You're going to need to get some shampoo in there
- 47:45Speaker 1: and wash that out.
- 47:46Speaker 3: You guys both took it like champs, though.
- 47:50Speaker 1: We had no choice.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have a choice. We could have been
- 47:53Speaker 2: frauds and not been pied in the face.
- 47:55Speaker 3: Well, you could put probably less whipped cream in the pie.
- 47:58Speaker 2: If we're going to do it, we've got to do it.
- 48:00Speaker 1: I think we used the better part of a can
- 48:02Speaker 1: of whipped cream.
- 48:02Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys did well.
- 48:04Speaker 2: And we were prepared. You had two full cans ready,
- 48:07Speaker 2: and we just only needed one.
- 48:08Speaker 1: We only needed one.
- 48:09Speaker 2: Watch back the tape.
- 48:10Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 48:10Speaker 2: Used quite a bit oh we're gonna do.
- 48:12Speaker 1: Like all the slow-mo takes and like i'm gonna we're
- 48:16Speaker 1: gonna doctor that up it'll be fun sweet love that
- 48:19Speaker 1: all right uh the vikings travel to tampa bay next
- 48:23Speaker 1: week where do the bears.
- 48:24Speaker 3: Play they play at home against the eagles.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Eagles okay um really quick what do you think Bears win,
- 48:32Speaker 1: Bears lose.
- 48:33Speaker 3: I mean, the QB three.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Potentially.
- 48:35Speaker 3: I mean, anything's possible. It's football. It's football. So I
- 48:40Speaker 3: don't feel horrible knowing as long. I go back to
- 48:43Speaker 3: your point, Evan. If Case Keenum is the QB for
- 48:50Speaker 3: this game, as long as he can manage the game,
- 48:53Speaker 3: we have enough weapons. whether our defense can hold the
- 48:58Speaker 3: the philly offense enough that would be my where my
- 49:02Speaker 3: worry is um but we'll see it's at home i
- 49:06Speaker 3: think there will be a hard week of practice knowing
- 49:10Speaker 3: there were a lot of mistakes against you guys in
- 49:13Speaker 3: Week 2. So anything's possible.
- 49:16Speaker 1: So right now DraftKings has Philly as 4.5-point favorites on
- 49:21Speaker 1: the road in Chicago. You've told me for a while
- 49:24Speaker 1: that they automatically give the home team a 1.5-point advantage.
- 49:28Speaker 2: I think it's like 3 points even.
- 49:30Speaker 1: Oh, okay. So really what we're looking at here is
- 49:33Speaker 1: like a 1-point spread.
- 49:36Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 49:36Speaker 1: If we take that into consideration, right? Like they're saying
- 49:40Speaker 1: Philly's going to win by one. So do you think
- 49:44Speaker 1: it's that close? It could be.
- 49:46Speaker 3: It could be. I think, honestly, you know, I'm going
- 49:50Speaker 3: to be optimistic. I think the Bears somehow pull this
- 49:53Speaker 3: one out and we win by a field goal.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
- 49:58Speaker 2: I mean, so it is Monday night, right?
- 50:00Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it's Monday night.
- 50:02Speaker 1: So there's a.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Whole extra day. for that widow boo-boo that Caleb Williams
- 50:08Speaker 2: got to really heal up. Maybe they'll be able to
- 50:12Speaker 2: take that Band-Aid off by then. So I think there's
- 50:15Speaker 2: a chance Caleb Williams plays. I mean, I know we
- 50:18Speaker 2: all saw the reaction, and that would just make the
- 50:20Speaker 2: memes so much better.
- 50:21Speaker 1: He's listed as doubtful right now.
- 50:22Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also a fool.
- 50:24Speaker 3: I'd rather him wait another week. Yeah. Make sure the
- 50:29Speaker 3: hamstring's good, because we're going to need him for more.
- 50:33Speaker 3: More than just next week.
- 50:35Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
- 50:35Speaker 2: It's a long season. Also, we've kind of hinted at it.
- 50:39Speaker 2: I don't know if we outright said it. Tyson Bajent's
- 50:41Speaker 2: in the concussion protocol.
- 50:42Speaker 3: He is, yep.
- 50:43Speaker 2: Which must, it had to have come from that final sack.
- 50:47Speaker 3: I'm guessing the sack.
- 50:48Speaker 2: Which, what are your thoughts on that sack?
- 50:51Speaker 3: It was a little violent.
- 50:51Speaker 2: It was a little violent.
- 50:53Speaker 3: I mean, personally, if that's Kayla Williams, I think the
- 50:59Speaker 3: flag is thrown on that thing. That was a pickup attack.
- 51:03Speaker 3: And throw down. Suplex, for sure.
- 51:07Speaker 1: I can't argue that.
- 51:08Speaker 3: We definitely have seen the flag thrown on that type
- 51:12Speaker 3: of hit on the quarterback, take down on the quarterback.
- 51:17Speaker 2: And even as recently as just over a week ago,
- 51:20Speaker 2: the Vikings-Packers game, the Vikings benefited from roughing the passer
- 51:25Speaker 2: where The Packer very clearly did not put his entire
- 51:29Speaker 2: body weight.
- 51:30Speaker 3: On top of Carson Wentz, even though they got the flag.
- 51:32Speaker 3: I think we've all had games where you're like, how
- 51:36Speaker 3: can that not draw a flag? Unfortunately, it evens out
- 51:42Speaker 3: in a sense, but it doesn't feel good when you're
- 51:45Speaker 3: on the team that you felt like should get that.
- 51:49Speaker 1: To that point, though, in that Packers game, you had
- 51:54Speaker 1: the one that wasn't called. Against the Vikings and then
- 51:57Speaker 1: there was one that was called later against the Packers
- 52:00Speaker 1: Packers defense sacked Carson Wentz Well.
- 52:04Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. Is that that sack against
- 52:06Speaker 2: Carson Wentz that was called a passenger? Probably shouldn't have
- 52:10Speaker 2: been right but.
- 52:11Speaker 1: Then there maybe maybe I'm thinking of the one that
- 52:14Speaker 1: wasn't oh, yeah where the defender like kind of braced
- 52:17Speaker 1: himself and came up and It was you know? So
- 52:22Speaker 1: it's just, it's so subjective.
- 52:24Speaker 3: I'm not like saying bears, you know, when, even if
- 52:28Speaker 3: the flag is thrown, you know, it definitely would give
- 52:30Speaker 3: them a shot, but it was a 50 for me
- 52:34Speaker 3: as a, almost like a 50, 50. Yes. I would
- 52:36Speaker 3: have loved to see the flag. Was I hooting and
- 52:40Speaker 3: hollering that they didn't throw a flag? No, as more
- 52:43Speaker 3: ticked off and I'm going to be polite with, with this,
- 52:46Speaker 3: maybe have children, children, but, uh, The fact that the
- 52:50Speaker 3: protection was so bad, why didn't you have Loveland just
- 52:55Speaker 3: run the round instead of try to block? It just
- 52:58Speaker 3: drove me nuts. The play call was a disaster.
- 53:01Speaker 2: Well, sorry to bring it up.
- 53:02Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry.
- 53:02Speaker 2: I'm here to say, I think you could have had
- 53:04Speaker 2: bounds for a flag on that play. However, and I
- 53:07Speaker 2: hate this, I think it was one of those, they
- 53:10Speaker 2: weren't going to call it in that situation, which how
- 53:12Speaker 2: many times have I said, I don't care if it's
- 53:16Speaker 2: the last second of the game, if somebody breaks a rule.
- 53:18Speaker 3: That's exactly it. The rule should apply through the whole
- 53:22Speaker 3: 60 minutes, but we all know certain players, quarterbacks, get
- 53:28Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt more often than not.
- 53:31Speaker 2: But anyways, to bring it all around, he's in the
- 53:33Speaker 2: concussion protocol, which we've seen also countless times. A guy
- 53:37Speaker 2: will be in the protocol, and then he clears it
- 53:39Speaker 2: the next day. None of us are experts on... We
- 53:42Speaker 2: just know it's like a path that... It is, and
- 53:45Speaker 2: this could be precautionary.
- 53:47Speaker 3: He had maybe some symptoms... And it's not as big
- 53:51Speaker 3: of a deal, but we'll know in the next few days.
- 53:54Speaker 2: So, and with that one extra day and really like
- 53:56Speaker 2: a day and a half, cause Monday night is a
- 53:59Speaker 2: day and you know, the evening later. So maybe that,
- 54:02Speaker 2: maybe that helps the Bears.
- 54:03Speaker 3: I mean, I love to see, I'm betting, I'm betting
- 54:07Speaker 3: that Caleb Williams does not play. I love to see
- 54:10Speaker 3: Tyson Bajent play though, because I think he is a
- 54:13Speaker 3: decent QB too. Um, as we saw lead, lead the,
- 54:17Speaker 3: lead the team down at the final minute. Um, So
- 54:20Speaker 3: I'd love to see him play. I just don't know
- 54:22Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
- 54:23Speaker 1: If they call that penalty on the last play of
- 54:26Speaker 1: the game, it would have been half the distance, and
- 54:30Speaker 1: it would have been an untimed down at the end
- 54:33Speaker 1: of the game. Correct. That would have been given. So
- 54:36Speaker 1: not to, like.
- 54:37Speaker 2: It would have put the Bears at, like, the six-yard
- 54:39Speaker 2: line with one more play.
- 54:41Speaker 3: Yep.
- 54:41Speaker 2: That they already got on one more play.
- 54:42Speaker 3: So....
- 54:44Speaker 4: Oh, man.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Here we go.
- 54:47Speaker 1: I think it could have been a similar situation to
- 54:51Speaker 1: the refs mysteriously adding a second to the clock.
- 54:54Speaker 3: You are mistaken, Sarah. There is no mystery. Look back
- 54:59Speaker 3: at the footage.
- 54:59Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 55:02Speaker 3: They played a clean and full 60 minutes. Not 59
- 55:07Speaker 3: minutes and 59 seconds. Not 60 minutes and one second.
- 55:10Speaker 3: 60 minutes.
- 55:12Speaker 2: So anyways.
- 55:14Speaker 1: We heard it here first. Anyways, the Vikings game ended
- 55:18Speaker 1: the way it ended. And there wasn't a penalty. And
- 55:20Speaker 1: the Vikings won 9-3. That one's in the books. Sorry
- 55:24Speaker 1: for your Bears. They're only 1-1.
- 55:26Speaker 3: The Bears were 0-2 last year.
- 55:29Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more to be said for
- 55:30Speaker 1: the Bears. They'll recover just fine. I'm excited for the
- 55:34Speaker 1: Vikings to be 2-0. Let's look ahead. Week three. The
- 55:39Speaker 1: Vikings travel to Tampa Bay. And we've already talked about
- 55:42Speaker 1: the Bears playing the Eagles, right? That should be a
- 55:46Speaker 1: good game. I'm excited to watch that one, actually. Austin,
- 55:49Speaker 1: what are we thinking is going to happen with this
- 55:52Speaker 1: Vikings-Bucks game?
- 55:53Speaker 2: So I tried to look up some of the betting lines,
- 55:55Speaker 2: same that I've done the last couple of games. And
- 55:58Speaker 2: I couldn't find any specific stats, you know, predicting stats
- 56:02Speaker 2: about any player. But I did see, at least as of,
- 56:06Speaker 2: I think, today, the Vikings in Tampa Bay will be apparently,
- 56:11Speaker 2: as of right now, favored by a point and a
- 56:13Speaker 2: half with an over-under of 42 and a half points.
- 56:16Speaker 2: So they're talking about... Only a point and a half?
- 56:20Speaker 2: I know, yeah.
- 56:20Speaker 3: Wow.
- 56:21Speaker 2: And if you take that three-point home team... gimme, that
- 56:26Speaker 2: means Vegas thinks it'll be about a field goal-ish game. Yeah,
- 56:31Speaker 2: I don't really know what to think of this game
- 56:34Speaker 2: for the 10th time this episode. I'm going to say
- 56:37Speaker 2: we don't really know what the Vikings are, especially with
- 56:41Speaker 2: Kyler Murray in there. We haven't seen that offense. We
- 56:45Speaker 2: saw 11 plays of pretty bad play of Kyler Murray
- 56:50Speaker 2: in the Packer game, and since then, nothing. So we
- 56:53Speaker 2: don't know what it should look like. Um, obviously Jordan
- 56:57Speaker 2: Mason's out as we, we said earlier. Um, so there's
- 57:00Speaker 2: a running back down and then who knows? I mean,
- 57:03Speaker 2: Aaron Jones played admirably. Um, he was almost a martyr
- 57:07Speaker 2: against the bears. Um, but maybe he's a little gassed
- 57:11Speaker 2: right now. So I don't know if we can expect
- 57:13Speaker 2: another hundred yard games out of Aaron Jones, especially so
- 57:16Speaker 2: soon after that, that tough running game he gave on
- 57:19Speaker 2: the ground, uh, in Chicago. Um, I, I just don't know.
- 57:24Speaker 3: Yes.
- 57:24Speaker 2: The Buccaneers were, are they one in one or one
- 57:26Speaker 2: of the Browns?
- 57:28Speaker 3: They lost to the Browns.
- 57:30Speaker 2: So, but the fact is they still have good players. Um,
- 57:35Speaker 2: their coaching, you could, you could debate on if it's
- 57:37Speaker 2: good coached team or not. Um, but Baker Mayfield, I'd
- 57:41Speaker 2: take him over a lot of quarterbacks in the league
- 57:44Speaker 2: right now. Um, like Buka is, is a playmaker for sure. Uh,
- 57:48Speaker 2: they just, they're, they're, overall a good team and just
- 57:51Speaker 2: like the chargers like i said earlier i would expect
- 57:53Speaker 2: the buccaneers to end up with a winning record.
- 57:56Speaker 3: Definitely i mean nfc not to get in tandem nfc
- 57:59Speaker 3: south is is a dumpster fire in general i would
- 58:02Speaker 3: expect you know that the bucks will make it at
- 58:06Speaker 3: least uh a way to win that division so.
- 58:09Speaker 1: We've i think we've said for a few years now
- 58:12Speaker 1: it seems like nobody wants to win the nfc south
- 58:14Speaker 1: yeah like they just they're all like You win it. No,
- 58:17Speaker 1: you win it. No, you win it. I'm going to
- 58:19Speaker 1: try really hard not to win it. I'm just going
- 58:21Speaker 1: to lose a bunch of games at the end of
- 58:22Speaker 1: the season, or I'm going to go 0-5 to start
- 58:25Speaker 1: the season, and then I'm going to turn it around
- 58:26Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. It just seems like
- 58:28Speaker 1: nobody wants to win this stupid division, and it sucks.
- 58:31Speaker 1: It is the dumpster fire of divisions in the NFL
- 58:35Speaker 1: right now. And what also sucks is there are some
- 58:39Speaker 1: historically good teams. The Bucs have been a good team.
- 58:42Speaker 1: They've won Super Bowls. The Saints have been good teams.
- 58:46Speaker 1: they've won super bowls um.
- 58:49Speaker 3: I'll actually all these teams probably in the what the
- 58:52Speaker 3: last 12 years have been in the super bowl i
- 58:56Speaker 3: think so it's not like it's been like historically.
- 59:01Speaker 1: Bad yeah yeah but there's just this like super bowl
- 59:04Speaker 1: hangover maybe of like okay well we we built our
- 59:08Speaker 1: roster up to a point and then you there's always
- 59:12Speaker 1: that turnover when you win a super bowl or you
- 59:14Speaker 1: go to a super bowl or even if you're in
- 59:16Speaker 1: the playoffs there's just this like significant turnover that's just
- 59:20Speaker 1: the way the nfl is nowadays um i'm i'm thinking
- 59:25Speaker 1: the vikings go in and just i i think this
- 59:29Speaker 1: is an easy win Really?
- 59:30Speaker 3: Okay.
- 59:31Speaker 1: And I'm going to go back on my– well, no,
- 59:32Speaker 1: I'm not going back on my prediction. I predicted this
- 59:35Speaker 1: was a win. I was wrong about the Vikings losing
- 59:38Speaker 1: to the Bears, and I'm happy about that. But I
- 59:41Speaker 1: stand by what I said in my preseason picks. I
- 59:44Speaker 1: think this is a victory for the Vikings. And it's
- 59:50Speaker 1: not just because the Bucs are 0-2, but I think
- 59:54Speaker 1: it's because the Bucs' offense hasn't really shown much. Like,
- 59:58Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has one touchdown. He has one interception. That's
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: not a lot over two games. Like, okay, you got
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: pay dirt one time, and you threw the ball away
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: one time. That's just not a lot for me to see.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: And I think this Brian Flores defense is going to
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: make his life miserable.
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Then you go down the stat sheet, and then you're
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: looking at Bucky Irving, who I have on my fantasy team,
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: by the way. So I'm like, I'm rooting for Bucky Irving. Like, okay,
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: I need you to play well. 134 yards over two games,
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: 25 carries, an average of 5.4 per carry, one touchdown.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not inspiring.
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of production there over two games.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Your receivers, you've got Chris Godwin, who has– I'm looking
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: at the wrong thing there. No touchdowns, but he leads
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: the team with eight targets and 86 yards, 12.3 per target.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Emeka Igbupa, you just mentioned him, only has one touchdown.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Like this offensive is not, they're not producing, right? There's
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: just not a lot there. And their defense doesn't seem
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: like it's got a lot of teeth either. And I
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: think that's why they're 0-2. So some big names on
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: this team, Alex Anzalone. Antoine Winfield Jr., big names. And
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: then the big names we've already mentioned on offense, Bucky Irving,
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Kenny Gainwell, Godwin, Egbuka. You got a lot
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: of names. You don't have a lot of production.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: So I'm thinking this is a pretty easy win for
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: the Vikings.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: All right. I do think the Vikings will win as well.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: My preseason picks, the ones that actually matter for purple punishments,
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: I predicted a loss. So we're guaranteed a spin next episode.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: That'll be fun. But as of right now, I think
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: the Vikings should win. Recency bias. I think the Vikings
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: are more put together. Now, again, for the thousandth time,
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: we don't really know exactly what to think of the
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Vikings after the Bears game, but they're 2-0. They have
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: shown that they can at least gut it out and
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: hold on as tight as they can for a win,
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: at least recently. So, but in my preseason picks, I
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: also gave a score for every game. I said the
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: Vikings would lose earlier on, and it would be 28-17.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: I still think they'll score something like 17. I think
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: it's going to take a little bit to figure out,
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: even if Kyler Murray ends up good right away, he
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: still hasn't played really for the Vikings, so we're still
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: in the, well, he's got to figure this out on
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: the field. He hasn't really been through a whole game
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: with Kevin O'Connell in his ear trusting the process being
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: through a whole game of having to break the pocket
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: because he's getting blitzed or trusting Justin Jefferson because holy
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: cow he threw it once and he caught it so
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: now I can do that again it's just going to
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: be some more learning for Kyler Murray so that's why
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: I don't think the Vikings are going to score a
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: whole ton of points Will the Thrill is still going
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: to be Will the Thrill and steadfast you can definitely
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: count on him for at least one field goal a
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: game So, yeah, I think the defense is going to
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: be the reason the Vikings end up beating the Buccaneers
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: this week. Score prediction? Oh, I think I said Vikings
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: would score 17. It would be like 17 to 10.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: I'm going to say 24-7 Vikings. Okay. Do you want
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: to predict this game? Do you want to predict the
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: Bears game?
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: Well, I kind of already did the Bears not score,
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: but I said the Bears would somehow pull it out
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: with three points. So I'll go with your boys' game. Vikings, Bucs,
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: I think, honestly, Tampa Bay is going to find a way.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: They're 0-2, like you said. I'm just not sold on
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: the Vikings yet. I think there's been some benefits on
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: your side, and kudos. I mean, you've made the most
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: of them. But I think they somehow find a way
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: to win 21-17 Bucs.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: Totally plausible. I mean, like I said, we don't know who.
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: The Vikings are right now. I mean, Todd Bowles, I think,
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: is going to find a way to get his team
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: ready for this one.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: And it is in Tampa Bay.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: It is in Tampa Bay. What time is it? Is
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: it on Sunday?
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: It's at 3 o'clock. 3 o'clock. 3.05 or 3.25, something
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: like that. It's the second slot of the Sunday game.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Got it.
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: Also, I know the Buccaneers game just a few days
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: ago had a long weather delay.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: I don't know what the forecast is supposed to be
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: like right now, but that's always a possibility to affect
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: the game this week.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: It was lightning this last week. And you never know
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: in Florida. They're always dealing with hurricane weather, little pop-up
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: storms that come through.
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: Tropical storms.
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: All right, I'm pulling it up now. As of right now,
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: it's supposed to be 89 and sunny. to partly cloudy.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: So we'll see. 14% chance of rain. So as of
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: right now, it doesn't look like weather's going to be
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: much of a factor. Hot or wet or anything like that.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: But that can change too.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: But 89 degrees is hot.
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: We'll just say that.
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: It's hot and humid.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Especially when you're in full pads and you're expected to
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: go out and perform. But something we know about the
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell Vikings is they won a game in Miami
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: when they were.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: On Oh, yeah, the sideline.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: The sideline, that was like 110 degrees or something ridiculous
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: like that. So, yeah, even though that stadium, Hard Rock
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Stadium in Miami, is designed for the home team to
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: have the advantage, the Vikings still found a way to win,
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: even though their sideline was like 20 or 30 degrees
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: hotter than the other. So... Austin's laughing because he's scrolling
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: Twitter as he got bored about me talking.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: About the weather.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: No, I was trying to see if anything had happened
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: while we were.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: But he came across the old Caleb Williams. I want
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: to be all right even though I just got a
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: little boo-boo. I think you're more.
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: Obsessed with Caleb Williams than I am, dude. Yeah, maybe.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: It's just hilarious.
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: My favorite caption to that moment was, This is what
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: husbands do after they spend all night sleeping on the
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: couch in the hospital after their wives just gave birth.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: That was the best one that I saw.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you this honestly. With all
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: the antics, and I know you don't like Caleb Owens,
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: would you rather have him as your quarterback this year,
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: knowing who you have on your roster?
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Provocative question.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: Oh, maybe.
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: You know what?
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: I'll answer that in 16 weeks when.
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: We're rehashing the end of the season. Because I think
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: you know, at true form, he can win you some games.
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: He could.
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: You don't feel that way about your QB1.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: No, yeah, but also... You don't feel that way about
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: your QB2. I also don't have to worry about any
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: of their fingernail colors.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: You are right or if they're crying you are exactly
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: you do not have to worry about that.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: I i did think this is my favorite one evan maybe.
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: Yeah let's put that one in there it's uh it's
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: the nine meme with j.j mccarthy's face on top of
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: caleb williams as he's being carted off that one's my
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: favorite um well you texted that one too yeah i
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: did it's it's it's good i'll put that one right
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: here we'll we'll feature that at the end of the
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: episode But I think my feelings and I think your
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: feelings might be similar about the Vikings quarterback situation are
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: similar to my feelings about beer. And my feelings about
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: beer are I'm kind of a no fuss kind of guy.
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: Like just give me straight good beer and I'm going
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: to be a happy guy. It doesn't matter what the
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: can art looks like. It doesn't matter what hops were used.
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if it's super this or super that.
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: Like just give me a good straightforward beer. easy drinking beer,
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: and I'm going to be happy. Give me a good,
- 1:08:06Speaker 4: straightforward quarterback that can play football, who can manage the
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: game well.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I'm going to be happy.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: I mean, regardless of the name of the beer, I'm
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: happy about how the beer tastes.
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: Sorry, what was the name of this beer again there? Oktoberfest?
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: Well, Evan, I think you described this beer perfectly. it's
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: just a good solid Oktoberfest. Um, the can art does
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: put it over the top for me a little bit, uh,
- 1:08:42Speaker 2: and being a really good one.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: I like the black and gold cause that's the school
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: that I work for. Yeah. My high school is black
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: and gold. So I'm, I'm, and that's where we graduated
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: high school. So I'm on board with, I'm on board
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: with the color scheme for sure.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Perfect.
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: Like I'll go back to Evans as long as the B2B,
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: tastes good you can name it whatever you want there.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: You go all right guys well forest i do appreciate
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: you coming on i know we've had a lot of
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: fun with With the Vikings beating the Bears and the
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: whole horrific career.
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: We had everything to do with it.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: You endured us. But just if you've been upset at all,
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: you did get to pie both of us in the face.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: I did.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: And you did a really good job.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: Thanks.
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: And I'm going to go home and lick my boo-boos.
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: Well, if you stub your toe on the way home.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: You may be way more injured.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: No, this is my emotional boo-boos. Oh, okay.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: Well, your emotional boo-boos may be way worse than what
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Caleb Williams experienced. And for that reason, I hope he
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: gets torn apart online for the rest of eternity. There
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: is no really coming back from this. He would have
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: to save.
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: As long as he plays good ball, I don't give a.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: He would have to save a hundred puppies from burning
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: building to really come back from this.
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: Not 99 puppies. That's not enough. But, yes, I do
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on. And I love every time you're on,
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: whether it's Bears-Vikings or draft time, which I think we
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: dropped the ball. I don't think you were on draft time.
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: No, I think it was one time during draft time.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: Oh, were you?
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Well, yeah, thanks for coming on.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Always enjoy the invite. Always enjoy having a
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: good few laughs, some good beer, good conversation. even if
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: we don't always agree, but it's fun to talk football
- 1:10:33Speaker 3: with you guys.
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: For sure.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: Well, this was a really great beer. Really good conversation.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: You might say the best episode yet, maybe.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Could be. Skol. Yeah.
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: Thank you.