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Super Netball’s New Powerhouses, the Boys are Angry With Us & Cath’s Wild Purchase · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Morning, Dribblers. I'm in my pyjamas in the studio. We've
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  Speaker 1: tried all night to get the audio sorted on Catherine's microphone.
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  Speaker 1: That microphone has gone back to the manufacturer, which is
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  Speaker 1: code for going into the bin today. Sorry about this.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best we can do with Cat's audio. What
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  Speaker 1: she has to say, though, it's well worth listening to.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy the episode and we'll have this
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  Speaker 1: sorted by next week. That microphone is gone.
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  Speaker 2: Music Well, in the words of esteemed composer Gustav Mahler, Catherine,
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  Speaker 2: you would obviously be very familiar with.
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  Speaker 1: His work, yep, with the coming of spring, I am
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  Speaker 1: calm again. Spring has sprung in the netball world and
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: in the southern hemisphere and a settling, we have calmed somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk a lot about what's happened over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but you're no dribble strapping.
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  Speaker 1: MUSIC Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: we talk about netball. We talk about so much more.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis and I have no idea, Carolyn, what
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  Speaker 3: you mean about calm because after last week, Our Instagram post,
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  Speaker 3: our little, you know, your little rant made a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people not very calm and there was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of bit of mad-splaining going on in the Instagram post,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't there? Do you have any apologies you want to make?
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  Speaker 4: Hit the whole central nerve.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of boys who were
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  Speaker 1: very upset with me and I'm very sorry I had
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  Speaker 1: no idea. They were so sensitive. The sad thing is, obviously,
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: if you're a bloke listening to this podcast, you're not
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  Speaker 1: the ones who got upset about it. It seems to
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  Speaker 1: be if you're an AFL fan, anyone criticising or saying
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  Speaker 1: anything that may be in any way critical, they must
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  Speaker 1: shut that down immediately because clearly the sport is very fragile.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened, but a lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: questioning whether I'm smart enough to vote, which I thought
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  Speaker 1: was lovely... You just have to laugh at a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those comments. Oh, yeah. Well, I've been called a
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  Speaker 1: Muppet quite a lot, which I think is fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Which Muppet would you be?
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  Speaker 1: Miss Piggy. Who would you be?
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  Speaker 3: I think who would you be, Catherine? The chef?
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  Speaker 1: The chef.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say the chef.
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  Speaker 1: Birdie, birdie, birdie.
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  Speaker 3: Liz, who would you be? Well, I was going to
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  Speaker 3: say Miss Piggy, but you were quick. And then I
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  Speaker 3: was going to say the chef, but Catherine was too quick.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Who's left? What about those cranky old
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  Speaker 3: blokes who sit up? A Waldorf and Statler. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: would be me. I'd just be cranky old thing up
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  Speaker 3: the back.
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  Speaker 1: Course they had names. Don't be so ageist, Catherine. Just
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  Speaker 1: because a Muppet is old doesn't mean a Muppet doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a name. Anyway, I'm a Muppet, apparently. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things. Yes, it put the cat amongst the pigeons.
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  Speaker 1: And what I love is how many people got incredibly enraged,
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  Speaker 1: clearly without bothering to then go and listen to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: They just went, nah, this 60 seconds or 80 seconds
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  Speaker 1: is enough to tell me everything I know. And how
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  Speaker 1: few people could disagree with without being personally insulting. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, gentlemen. A lot of them, I did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of, I looked at a lot of people's accounts.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't engage. And thank you, there were a number
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  Speaker 1: of dribblers who jumped on there and were engaging and
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  Speaker 1: trying to, you can't, there's no point. There's no point.
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  Speaker 1: If someone is going to write an abusive message about that,
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  Speaker 1: anything you say is not going to change their mind.
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  Speaker 1: All you're doing is actually just damaging your own mental health.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like- Let them go. Let them put their
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  Speaker 1: photos up of their boats and the big fish that
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  Speaker 1: they've caught. They're very clever and I'm very sorry that
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  Speaker 1: I've upset them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe we should all put our reflective sunnies out.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say, right, so, I mean, goodness only
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  Speaker 3: knows that I've been trolled enough on both the platform
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  Speaker 3: formerly known as Twitter and a bit less so on
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  Speaker 3: Instagram over the years. particularly when I was working on
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  Speaker 3: like free-to-air television and on Sports Sunday and things like that, right?
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  Speaker 3: So initially when I used to get trolled, I made
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  Speaker 3: the mistake of reading the messages in a logical voice
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  Speaker 3: in my head. And then as soon as I had
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  Speaker 3: the realization that sometimes if you're trolling, you may not
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  Speaker 3: be a particularly logical person. So I read them in
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  Speaker 3: a very silly voice, almost like the chef. And it
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  Speaker 3: becomes much funnier and much easier to deal with. But
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  Speaker 3: I also took the decision many years ago that every
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  Speaker 3: second that I spent engaging with a troll was the
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  Speaker 3: second that I wasn't talking to my kids or my
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  Speaker 3: husband or my friends or the people I like. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't engage. And I did see those notifications start
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  Speaker 3: to come through. And I started to get a bit
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  Speaker 3: upset because I'm like, you don't understand. And then I
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  Speaker 3: thought maybe they would never understand. So I let it go.
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  Speaker 3: It had some great traction.
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  Speaker 1: And what they did, and we should thank them, actually,
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  Speaker 1: because clearly what has happened with these blokes getting outraged
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  Speaker 1: and commenting on it, it moves it up the algorithm.
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  Speaker 1: And we have had like a 10% bump in our
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  Speaker 1: Instagram followers since that went up. And I think this is,
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  Speaker 1: so not everything they said was stupid. You know, there
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  Speaker 1: were some, you know, the comments were right, that it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you want women's sport to grow, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: get behind women's sport. And that is what we have
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  Speaker 1: been saying from the get-go. You've got to be a member.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to go to games. You've got to buy
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  Speaker 1: the merch. You've got to do the things to help
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  Speaker 1: the game grow, buy the tickets. And so that was right.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing that we can do that costs
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  Speaker 1: us nothing is sharing content on women's sport, especially netball. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all women's sport, like give it a bump.
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  Speaker 1: Share it. If you see something interesting, share it to
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  Speaker 1: your story there, whatever the sport is. Like just let's
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  Speaker 1: use this thing. Let's hijack the algorithm. So let's take
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  Speaker 1: the advice of all the helpful men who've– let's be–
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  Speaker 1: Smart Muppets this week. There were some helpful women too.
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  Speaker 1: And really flood the zone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some helpful women too who maybe I
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  Speaker 3: wondered if they'd drunk the Kool-Aid. But anyhow, so I
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  Speaker 3: think that's.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is what I find surprising is people shouting
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  Speaker 1: about it's not a gender issue. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was at least one person shouting that I should
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  Speaker 1: not be making this a gender issue. And then I
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  Speaker 1: know they're a very active member of our Facebook group
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  Speaker 1: and you go into their Instagram posts And there is
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  Speaker 1: a photo of them standing next to one of these
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  Speaker 1: underpaid super netball players going, this is my hero. It's like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's a gender issue. It doesn't mean the men all
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  Speaker 1: need to feel bad about it. But if we can
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  Speaker 1: understand what has led to this disparity in funding, then
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  Speaker 1: we can fix it. But just going, oh, it's not
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  Speaker 1: a gender issue. It's like, you're just ignoring the problem.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't understand that.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Anyhoo, look, can I tell you, I did something very
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: exciting last week.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, very good.
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  Speaker 3: I bought a new car.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you did?
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic. What did you get?
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  Speaker 4: Tell me it's a Mini or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: With your head sticking out the roof. One of those
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  Speaker 1: little smart cars. That's what I want.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, GGO.
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  Speaker 3: I made the mistake of telling my son that we
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  Speaker 3: were going to buy a Flintstones car and then he
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  Speaker 3: didn't get it. And then it was 20 minutes down
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  Speaker 3: a rabbit hole. Anyway, but then I'll never get back
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  Speaker 3: out or cause you know, and when he was little,
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  Speaker 3: we used to call him Bam Bam cause he was
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  Speaker 3: blonde and used to.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, so that was fun. But so I, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is not very exciting for probably 99% of people
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: who are listening. It's exciting for me. When we sold
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: the Land Cruiser that we took around Australia, I was
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: really sad. Anyway, that sadness is gone because I bought
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  Speaker 3: an electric vehicle. Fully electric. Oh, well done.
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  Speaker 4: Can I ask a question? Is that a smart idea
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  Speaker 4: given you live in the bush?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I bought one that's got a reasonable- She
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  Speaker 3: doesn't live in the bush.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's Like.
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  Speaker 4: There's not someone to charge that every five seconds.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there is her house and then she drives 15
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  Speaker 1: minutes to Ballina or Lismore. Like she's not in Coober Pedy.
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  Speaker 4: I just watched the last episode of Colin from Accounts
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  Speaker 4: and they get stuck in their electric vehicle in the bush.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not up to date yet. So I'm only
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  Speaker 1: about three eps in. Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: So what is it though?
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  Speaker 1: What brand?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's a Toyota BMW. for RZ. I mean, I'd
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: never heard of it until last week.
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  Speaker 1: What a sexy name, yeah. The marketing team went into
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: overdrive there.
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was their first fully electric vehicle and
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: it feels like they weren't sure if it was going
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  Speaker 3: to work. So they just called it something and they
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: never got around to giving it a sexy name. It's
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: quite a good car. But I bought it. And Catherine,
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: there is a bit of like, I totally get your
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  Speaker 3: question right because I do live I do live 25
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  Speaker 3: minutes out of town, but we did install a heap
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  Speaker 3: of solar panels on our house a little while ago
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: and bought a big battery and all that sort of stuff.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: So I keep saying to my kids, oh, I'm getting
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: free petrol from the sky. And it's only been four
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: days and they're sick of me chortling with glee every
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: time the sun comes out. So you can charge it
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: at your house and charge. But I bought it and
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: we bought it in Noosa. So we accidentally went up
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: there and had a night in a nice resort in Noosa. Oh,
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: are you okay? I know. And swam at the beach
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: and did all the things. And then Austin and I
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: drove down. Matthew had to drive his car back down.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: But we drove down and I knew there was a superchar.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: station near my house. And so we pulled in and
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: none of the, it was an older one, so none
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: of the plugs worked. So I rang Matthew and I'm like, Okay,
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: now I've got buyer's remorse. I've only owned it for
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: 12 hours. Yeah, that was good. Anyway, there's an app.
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: There's an app for everything. And you get on the
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: app and you work out where it is. And I
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: got there and it was easy. And now I've been
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: at home and it's all sorted. But they are like
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: I am so smug about the fact that I don't
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: have to buy diesel anymore.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: You know, last year when we went to Europe, I
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: hired a car for us. We were driving around France
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: and we went to– Army Ends and Normandy and Villas
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Breton and all this great World War I, World War
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: II history and driving around. And I thought, well, we'll
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: hire an electric car. Because I like to go on
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: holidays and try different things and go, will this work
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: for us? That was the dumbest, dumbest decision I have
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: ever made. Because we were, one, unfamiliar with electric vehicles.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: And two, don't speak French. So go up to the
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: charging stations and try to work out how to get
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: this thing working. And it's apparently not that uncommon for
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: some charging stations not to be working, but we're like,
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: is this the car and we're doing it wrong? Or
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: is this the app and we're doing it wrong? Or
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: is this the machine and we're doing it wrong? Anyway,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: we ran out of juice just a on this highway,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: just came to a dead stop because the charging station
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: we'd been to wasn't working and then we missed the
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: turn off to the next one and so I had
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: to go further. And the car just, on this hill.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: So then Pete has to walk up the highway to
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: one of the... Because what you can.
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: Do, you can't get a jerry can and sort it out.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: No, and then you can't just go and get a
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of electricity. And so this poor person on
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: the other end of the phone can barely hear Pete.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and doesn't speak English and Pete doesn't speak French and
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: they can hardly hear. Eventually someone came along and they
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: towed us and they towed us into town and we
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: basically lost half a day of the holiday because we
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: didn't understand what we were doing. Anyway, I came home
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: and went, we're never getting an electric vehicle. We're never
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: getting an electric vehicle.
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Well, now that I've got one, I'll keep you guys
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  Speaker 3: up to date as to how many times I lose
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: power on the freeway or somewhere between Ballina and home.
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  Speaker 1: But it would be perfect for us here because we've
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  Speaker 1: got a huge solar system and a big battery. And
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: I don't, I rarely drive more than sort of 20
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  Speaker 1: Ks in my car. So it will be fully electric
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  Speaker 1: when we replace.
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  Speaker 4: Like your phone though, the more you charge it, the
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: more it needs charging. Like if I said anything about,
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: do you charge it every night or do you just
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: wait till you got the one little battery bit flicking
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  Speaker 4: at you?
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  Speaker 3: You start to have conditions. I don't know if any
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: dribblers have any ideas that they want to sort of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, pass on. Please do. I'm just learning.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just, I was about to give Daryl Milton
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: a job, but can I give him a shout out?
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: He has done a sensational job in the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks with all of the Facebook posts on who's
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: going where in the super netball world. So, uh, thank you, Daryl,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: really appreciate you. And while we've been moaning about people
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  Speaker 1: sending awful messages, we've also had some of the most
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: beautiful messages from dribblers in the past week, a lovely
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: message from a dribbler, Karen, which we have shared, uh, Emma,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: who has been Sporty Swift for 10 years until she
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: had a baby in 2024, has reached out to talk
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: about her life as a mascot. We have had a
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: great message from Hazel in the UK who had just
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: found us and said, I feel like I've been looking
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: for you guys my whole life and we could sit
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: in my backyard and drink wine. And we love these
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: messages so much. And there's one I have to share
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: with you guys about Book Week because, of course, We
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: moaned about book week, which is a very reasonable.
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: Forever moan.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think that's a reasonable response. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I got a message from one of the mums whose
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: son was at primary school with my son. I thought
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I'd let you know. So she's a nurse, was chatting
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: with an anaesthetist at work today and she said it
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: was book week. I asked what her daughter went as
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: and she said a netballer because she loves listening to
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: No Dribble.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah. She's an eight-year-old who is listening to
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: No Dribble. So can we just enjoy the irony of
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: a podcast with Kath Cox on it, inspiring someone for
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: book fake? Yeah. But anyway, thank you so much. We
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: have had such lovely messages and messages of support for,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: you know, our episode last week and talking about the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: disparity in pay and, If you're going to get paid
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: more than the Prime Minister, maybe take your job seriously
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: in the lead up to the finals. But anyway, we
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: won't go there again. What we will do is have
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: a little break and come back and talk about some netball.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, before we do that, we must move her.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: All I can see is her flaming red hair. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I'll try to look at you.
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  Speaker 3: Put her down.
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  Speaker 1: She's gone.
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  Speaker 4: Someone thinks she'd be the sirens mascot, isn't she?
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  Speaker 1: All right, so we're back. Look what I'm wearing. You
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: know what we haven't talked about? We haven't talked about...
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm wearing my scarf from the One
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Year To Go event that we went to last week
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: that we should talk about quickly. But I'm also wearing
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: my Giants merch. And I will say, Giants fans, Valor
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: has 60% off the entire Giants range until 30th of September.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: We will put a link in the show notes for
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: this episode that will take you straight through. But, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: get your gear because it's part of history now. They've
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: also got... You know, if I was a Thunderbirds fan,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I would be wearing that 2026 championship tee everywhere I
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: went at all times if I was a T-Birds fan.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: And also there's obviously some great Swiss gear too. So
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: get around that. But here's my scarf from the one
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  Speaker 1: year to go event where I just was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just hanging with my mates Paige and Liz and Amy
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  Speaker 1: and Shamira.
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  Speaker 2: And all the people.
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  Speaker 4: Liz Ellis had the world's biggest day. Yeah. You started
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  Speaker 4: early and didn't finish to what you flew home.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: I flew home. So I was up at, I think
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: my hair and makeup, lovely Jackie was in my room at,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, 6am. So I was up at 5.15.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: And then, yeah, hair and makeup, then down to the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: harbour for some interviews. So with the Today Show and then... Yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: that was great. It was good, wasn't it?
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: It was great until, I'm sorry... There's no need to
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: be trying to show off your basketball skills when the
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: brief is probably very clear. We're promoting the netball world cup.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: That really pissed me off, to be honest. That'll be
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: our social clip this week is Kath having a rant
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: about that. But let me say. Can I put a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: little silver lining around that, though? We're getting the Channel
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: 9 stuff now because Channel 9 will be our broadcast
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: partner next year. So we're getting the advantages of that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: already as a sport. I reckon that was a much
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: bigger segment as a result of that partnership than it
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: otherwise might have been.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: And with the weather break, it was every half an hour.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: It was. And let me say the funniest thing was
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: during one weather break, I got interviewed and we were
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: talking about the actual World Cup. And I started to
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: talk about the fact that it hasn't always been in
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: a glass box. It spent some time living at my
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: house with me and Coxie. And I get this paddock
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: message from Coxie, don't tell stories on air about what
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: we did with the World Cup trophy. I was like,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: that's true. I'm now the chair. I can't be talking
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: about things like that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: You can't be. But I can talk about the night
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that it stayed, the night at my house, because for
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the 2015 World Cup, I had to go down Because
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to transport because it's so precious, right?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: You can't just shove it in a cargo hold. You
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: can't just send a courier with it. But it had
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: been down there and had to come up here for
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the tournament to start. And so I flew down, met
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the CEO of the Netball World Cup at the airport gate.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: She handed it to me. I got on the plane.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Virgin gave me a seat for the trophy, yeah. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: then by the time I got back, it was so
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: late in the day that the office had closed. So
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it came home with me.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: And did you tamper with it as well?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I did not tamper with it. Did you touch it?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Of course I did. I had dinner with it. It
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: sat at the end of our dining table. We did that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: We gave a gin though.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to every night after the 2007 World Cup,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know why it was at my house for
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: so long, but we used to sit. a little table
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: for it and for a little while we had that
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and we had the, it was a Commonwealth Bank trophy then,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: so we had that, the two trophies and every night
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: there'd be the meat tray, Coxie and me and the
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: two trophies and we'd set them a little place at
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the table and we'd give them sips of champagne. So stupid.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I've got to say, I think it's smart that when
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: they designed the trophy, so it's a globe, it's a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: ball obviously and a net is what it's evocative of.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I think it was smart that they made it such
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that you couldn't drink out of it. I don't like.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That because every single National League trophy we've had as well,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you can't drink it out. You've never been able to
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: drink out of them.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: No, so athletes clearly didn't design them. I mean, the
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: athletes were so professional, they wouldn't be thinking like that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: It's just us old ducks that think like that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I remember going out, I was working for the ACT
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Rugby Union, the Brumbies, when they won the first super
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: rugby title that an Australian team had won in 2001
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and we were out afterwards and it was filled with
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Midori illusions and we were all drinking that. It was
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: pre-COVID times so we were all just drinking from it
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like it's the Catholic Church. and Midori illusions. It's so funny,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, dear. But, look, the One Year To Go event
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was a fabulous event and I think the next– the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: World Cup will be upon us before we know it. So, yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: What was the most pleasing thing for you, Liz? The
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: most pleasing thing– I know there was a lot going on,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: but what was the one bit you just went, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: this is good?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well– Was it me getting to meet Liz Watson
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: or was that a little bit further down your list
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of things that were great about that day?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, only just.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: It was, I think it was great that it was,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it really showed that the World Cup will be a
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: bit different. So having the floating netball court on Sydney Harbour, having,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Chad and I there doing all of the
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: crosses from it, just showed that, you know, there is
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: a real desire on the organising committee to make sure
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: that it's different and it's bold and it's portrayed in
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: this way. And then having the, we had a business
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Sydney lunch. So we did all the launch, we did
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: all of, you know, all the Chad and I and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: staff and We then had a cruise and I just
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: love that all the sports podcasters and influencers were there,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: which was fantastic. So that was great. Big bit of
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: a shout out to the Female Athlete Podcast because they
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: were interviewing, I didn't even notice, they were interviewing Jane Fernandez,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: who's the CEO of the Netball World Cup. And I
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: was totally oblivious and I walked straight through the shot.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I was mortified.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm so sorry. They're like, you're the queen.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: You can do what you like. I was like, no,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just, just me.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: But the Female Athlete Project, that's a great podcast to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: get around. We've talked about sportish, you know, as I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: was saying earlier on, let's get behind all of these
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: content makers who are showcasing women's sport.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So it was fantastic. So having that, having the World
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Cup Champions Program launched and then having the Business Sydney
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: lunch that day, up at Deloitte was fantastic, right? It was,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: you know, business leaders from all over Sydney, Cox's MC
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: had a great panel. You know, we had Amanda Lang
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: from Channel 9 there. We had Karen Jones from Destination
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: New South Wales, Stacey Francis-Bayman from, she's the athlete representative
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: on World Netball and the World Netball Board. So it
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: just felt like there was a really great sort of
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: sense of, okay, something big is coming. And, you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to have the involvement of Business Sydney was fantastic. So
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I was just pleased. And the amount of coverage that
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: we got as well was great. So, no, it's a
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: good day. I did feel like I'm being hit by
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: a bus. And I got home and then I bought
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: a car and it was just a big week.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Big week.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Did you showcase your skills to Amanda Lang to make
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: sure that you're calling the games for us next year?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Because there will be a riot if you are not
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: in the commentary team for Channel 9.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Right. Well, we'll see then, shall we?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll be leading that riot. But the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: other thing that happened, and this is just finished this morning, obviously.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: So the final player, the 80th player for our eight
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Super Netball teams was announced with Tegan O'Shaughnessy signing for
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the Sirens. So we now have eight teams of 10.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: As we talked about last week, this has not been
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: without an enormous amount of pain for For clubs and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: teams and particularly the individual athletes, you know, there's been
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: some enormous change. We've seen Jess Anstis, who was the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: captain of the Fever, let go. Fortunately, she was picked
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: up some reels. Maddie Turner, captain of the Swifts, will
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: not be playing next year. I think that's big. We've
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: obviously talked about Kate Eddy and what a shock that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is and there's a lot of players. But we do
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: have now an ability to start to look forward and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: consider what this could comp is going to look like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: It's funny when you think about the last signing for
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the Sirens being Tegan O'Shaughnessy. They clearly have done a
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: U-turn at some point because they would have had in
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: their head the dream team, who they wanted. It's amazing
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: how many pivots, and I did that on purpose, so
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: many pivots they would have had to make on the
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: fly with all of this because suddenly Tegan O'Shaughnessy would
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, Okay.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: So who do we get rid of and why is
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: this going to happen now? But I was really rapt
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: to see her get a signing because she was clearly upset, as.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: We've spoken about. A lot of people have been.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: And basically knows– well, gets to stay in New South Wales,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: lives in New South Wales, knows a lot of the
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: people because it was the Giants club.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: That she was previously at.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: So it's exciting.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, was she? She was with the Giants before.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: She was with the Giants previous to being with the Swifts, but–
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: One of the signings for the Sirens I was really
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: interested in and that's Claire O'Brien.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So forgive my ignorance, catch me up.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, a player that's been in New Zealand,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: the players have not... I guess, being considered good enough
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: to play in Super Netball before otherwise would have been
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: picked up. 30 years of age, so, you know.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Wow. Didn't she play for the Swifts for a little bit?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sure I commentated her playing years ago.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in and out, but not ever a starting seven
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: player or your first signing or, you know, not someone
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: that's having longevity in the game. I found it an
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: interesting signing when why would you not– maybe try and
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: find a younger up-and-coming player to take that position. Claire
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: will be great for them. She's obviously experienced. She knows
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: how to play that New Zealand style of play.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: She's been in New Zealand.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: There's a lot more of them in the competition now.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: But I was a little, I was perplexed by that. Well, maybe,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: but all of other clubs go for those younger generations.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But maybe that's what the Sirens needed. Like if you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: look at it, so they have Erin O'Brien, they have
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Amy Sligar, they have Sophie Dwyer, all players who've been
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: around but are still very young. They've got Hope White. Yeah,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: so Matisse has probably got a few more years' experience,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: hasn't she? But it's like– Same age. As who? As
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: all of those players. Oh, is she? Oh, is she? Okay. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But so they are a younger team and I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they're looking exciting– for 2028. I'm not seeing the sirens
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: marching straight into the finals next year, I don't think.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But what I am seeing there is a real– and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: particularly that they've locked a number of those players in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for several years. I'm thrilled that they have gone with
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Erin O'Brien. I think she has made her case so
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: strongly for the last couple of years and particularly sort
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of like wasn't necessarily starting seven. There were some injuries,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: so it's like bring it through. So maybe– I don't know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: maybe the Claire O'Brien thing is about having a little
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: bit of, I'm going to, you know, say grey hair.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's clearly not grey hair, but a little bit more
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: maturity there, a bit more experience. And maybe that experience
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: in playing with the Kiwis has, you know, it will
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: be part of it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: So I think you're right. I think the Sirens have
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: strengthened their lineup from the Giants last year. I'm not
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: sure they're going to be challenging yet, but they've They're
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the sort of team that you go, well, if they
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: can sort of keep each other around for a bit
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: or keep that core around for a bit in a
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: couple of years' time, we'll be talking about them as
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: a premiership team.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: But then the hard thing is when you look through
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: all of the other lineups, now that they're all confirmed,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you know, normally you go, there's a bit of fiddling
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: around the edges, but you know who's going to be
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the best, like who's going to be your top four
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: next year. I can't pick that. The only team that
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I can hand on heart say. So I reckon the
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: two teams... Yeah, we're in hopeless when the teams are
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: sort of pretty consistent. But this signing period has been
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: bloody amazing for the amount of movement. But then when
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: you look through the lines, I think the Thunderbirds, by
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: keeping the guts of their starting seven together, they really
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: do win the signing period, don't they?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think they're looking great. I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: think Fever's looking great. I think Mavs are looking great.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know about... Vixens, it looks to me like
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: they might have had an emotionally difficult signing period and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that there might be some healing that needs to happen there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Clearly, they still have a sensational lineup.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: They've picked up some great new players and maybe they've
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: just got enough freshness coming into the side too that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: will be enough to sort of.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: They are copying it, though, because you know how they
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: were always the team that was Victoria first, talking about
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: bringing through the youth. They picked up three Kiwis, both
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Rulie Buchanan, Stythe, Wormsley. Taylor Williams has come over as well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Ash Urban. So it's a big departure from... victoria first
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: yeah but i think it had to happen everybody else
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: is doing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It it's got to happen i think so too and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and it's yeah and it's been an incredibly valuable program
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: so you know and there's still we've talked about the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: victorian netball league in the last couple of weeks and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it's still going to be a very strong pathway But,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you know, for them to have stuck to that sort
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of virtuous position would have put them, I think, at
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a significant disadvantage and then put their members at a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: significant disadvantage. And they are sitting in a state with
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: two really strong teams. They can't just go, we have
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a philosophical position and even though the game is changing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: around us, we are going to stick completely to that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's, It's sort of a shame, but I
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: think that they've done absolutely the right thing, which is
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to say the game is changing. We need to change
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: No, I agree. And I think that, you know, the
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Victorian pathway will always punch out awesome talent and it
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: will filter out into the rest of the competition, which
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: is what the New South Wales pathway has done, the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: South Australian pathway, all the states. are pushing out great players.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: And as long as they get picked up somewhere, it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: probably the thing. And now we've got more internationals than ever.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And I know that there's been lots of chats about
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: at what point do you cap internationals. I just can't
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: see a world where we can hand on heart cap internationals.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I think we've got to look for more opportunities for
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Australian players, whether it's more players in teams, more teams.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: You know, that's what I've said consistently.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Well, more teams means a longer season, which means more
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: ticket revenue. You know, it clearly– really looking forward to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the day when we have some extra teams. You know what.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Sucks the big ones, though? What? That we have to
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: now wait– For all this to play out.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I know, I know.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Well, why can't we start next week?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: We do have the Constellation Cup beforehand, though, which is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: very exciting. I will be, you know, because we didn't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see Australia play New Zealand in the Commonwealth Games. So,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's going to be, it is
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: going to be amazing. And we will talk more on
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Friday about internationals and pathways because, you know, there are
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, okay, look at the people
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: we've let go. And I think Anne Beaton on her
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Instagram channel, you know, made a really good point that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, let's put together all of these players who didn't,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Australian players who didn't get picked up in a team.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Imagine what that team would look like. And it's like, yeah,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it'd be a pretty bloody competitive team, actually. So we
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: will talk about that on Friday. But yeah, I'm... I'm excited.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: We're not going to try to crystal ball the top
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: four teams finalists yet. We will definitely have a crack
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: at that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: What are you waiting for?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Christmas.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Chicken?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Is he going to change? Well, let's see if anyone
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: has any critical injuries. Now, forgive my ignorance. Catherine Hall
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: from the Silver Ferns. But is she a keeper?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So maybe– maybe she was part of the sirens plan.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And yeah, don't know. That's pure speculation. Anyway, we will
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: talk more on Friday about internationals, but now we're going
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a break. And Catherine,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you've got a question for us. okay well before we
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: get into your question did you guys see jai arrow
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: on the weekend the nrl player that was i just
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: thought this is the most extraordinary thing so for for
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: dribblers who don't follow nrl or yeah um but i
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: i think this story probably transcended it so jai arrow
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: is a player he's played um At this stage, he's
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: played 179 representative National Rugby League games for, I think,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Titans. And he was on 98 games
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: for the South Sydney Rabbit Eyes and very tragically has
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: a pretty dire motor neurone disease diagnosis. And the AFL
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: world knows about Neil Danaher's work around motor neurone disease.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: This is something we're learning more and more about. Anyway,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: on the weekend, the National Rugby League and the South
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Sydney Rabbitohs worked together. The NRL gave the Rabbitohs a dispensation.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So Jai Arrow has had to retire on 98 games.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And they said, can we make a small rule change
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that allows him to take the field two more times?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: So Jai Arrow led the field, led the team out
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: onto the field. He was on the ground for three seconds.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: There was a beautiful You'll Never Walk Alone. This was
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: up at the Gold Coast Stadium. It was clearly an
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: incredibly moving moment for him. And then he was immediately
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: subbed off for another player. So the NRL said, we
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: are going to make a change in the rules for
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: these two games to allow this to happen because this
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: is the heart of the game. We need to show
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that the rules can be changed. So South Sydney were
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: allowed to have one extra player on their roster and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Jai sat for the rest of the game on the
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: bench in his kit. And next week we'll do the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: same at the Rabbitohs game against the Roosters at home.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: he will get that hundred milestone. And I just... What
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a game to do it. What a game to do it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And it was just, it was beautiful and I loved it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And it shows us, regardless of what, you know, how
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: upset men with boats are getting about sport and the like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: it's like sport is wonderful. Whatever the sport is, there
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: are these incredible stories of people and people coming together
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: around something that they believe in. And I just, I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: loved it. I.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time crying last week. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was really upset about losing Dolly. I was very surprised
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: at how much I was upset about that. I just
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thought that is a person who is a force for good.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And then I saw this on the weekend. I thought
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: this is this is something, you know, we are capable
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of doing wonderful things. And this is a small but
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: wonderful thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: What about the vision in the change room? How good
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: was that when you see one of the toughest coaches
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: in the business?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Wayne Bennett.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: It was very little emotion helping Jai put his socks
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: and his boots on before he went out on the field.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Like, so good.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was beautiful.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Amazing. And you know what I thought when I was
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: watching the vision of him run onto the field? And, like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: it was really emotional to see. I thought how beautiful
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: for his kids in 15, like 10, 15 years time.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Like they're going to play that vision over and over
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: again just to see how loved their dad was. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: was really emotional when you were watching it. I thought
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: what a beautiful.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many kids he's got, but certainly one,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: at least one of them is really little, like barely
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: walking age. And you go, oh man, like that's just. Anyway, Jai,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: we wish you every good health. But you've got something.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: No, I want to quickly get back to the Dolly situation.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Have you been a fan forever?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I've been a fan forever. To what point? Have you
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: seen her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been to her concerts
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. You know, I often wear Dolly merch. Yeah,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: so I've got a group of girlfriends. We get together.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We live in different parts of the country, but we
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: went to the Dolly concerts together. And yeah, I don't know.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: It's just I'm not a country music fan, but I've
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: always been an enormous admirer of how she's carried herself
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: as a person. the sense of humour that she has
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: about herself and just embracing that. Clearly, you look at me,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not a rhinestone person. I'm not a dolly. Big hair. Yeah, yeah. But, like,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I just love that she went, this is who I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: am and just– the body of work, like her work ethic,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the amount of incredible songs that she has written over
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the years, but also this legacy of going, I'm going
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: to use my money to send one book a month.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Any child in the United States, and there are other
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: countries participating, the Imagination Library, you sign up, your kid
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: gets sent a book every month from zero to five
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: years old, the idea being that the parents can read
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: this book to the child. And it's like, what a legacy,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: what a thing. Meanwhile, we've got other billionaires going, well,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I better go to space because I've got all this
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: money and I don't know what to do with it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: And she's gone, no, no, I'm going to give this away.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: People working at Dollywood, they get their education paid for.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: You know, amazing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and, you know, like where I live, our area
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: was devastated by the 2022 floods and one of the
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: worst images or the saddest images was Yep. Lots of
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: people lost homes. Some people lost their lives, which was
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: incredibly tragic. And a real sort of moment, an image
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: came out of a photo taken in front of the Richmond, sorry,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the Lismore Library in the aftermath of the flood. And
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: all of the books were destroyed. All the books.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: All the books.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton's foundation made a substantial donation of books, you know,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: to my little local library up here. And you go,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: oh my God, like her, her reach was just so
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: profound in that way. And you're so right. I was like,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: you know, some people are billionaires and they, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: buy social media sites and some people are billionaires and
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: spent or would be billionaires, but they didn't spend all
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: their money on books and education for people. So that's
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: how far her reach sort of went and how practical
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it was at a local level.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: We should all be a little bit more Dolly.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Dolly. Can I just tell you something? I love the,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's been lots of talk this week about
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: how bad the algorithm is, but my algorithm is behaving
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: beautifully at the moment because after she died, I got
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: this thing pop up on my algorithm. She was on
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: a talk show and she was really quite young and
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: she was beautifully dressed up with the hair and the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: rhinestones and the fingernails and she took her guitar and
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: the interview was sort of a bit... sort of treating
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: her like she might have been a bit dumb and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: so she took a guitar and she was all smiles
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: and she sang this song and she said now and
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: this was days of when we had record players not
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: cd players or anything downloaded and she said so have
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you all turned your record player up from whatever it
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: is to make it faster we all used to do
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: that when we were young at his head she said
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: this is what this song sounds like and she played
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: her song and sang it at double speed it was amazing.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And I thought, oh my God, like even when someone
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: was sort of a bit taking the piss out of her,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: instead of responding angrily, she responded by taking the piss
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: back and just gave her an opportunity. Actually, this is
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: also what I can do. I can do this and
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I can do this. And this is how talented I am. So,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll watch that and I'm like, yeah, that's
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: just how you deal with that sort of stuff.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: She's a great quote that I was going to use
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: at some stage. And I think this is so Dolly
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and it's what we try to do here at No Drip,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: but we just try to make people's lives just that
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: little bit better. And I think if everybody could follow
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the lead, but she said, if you see someone without
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a smile today, give them yours. And it's like, what
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a beautiful little gesture, just, you know, Smile. Just try
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: to do something to make the world a little bit
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of a better place. Anyway, before I start crying, can
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you talk about some nonsense? Yeah, yeah. I've never been
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: this sad. Well, when Warnie died I was, but, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I've never been this moved by the death of a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: musician or an actor.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Hey, no, so I want to know, triggered by something
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I recently did, I want to know what the dumbest
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: thing is, stupidest thing, whatever you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Want to call it, that you bought online. If you're
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: not going to say that wand, I'm worried.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: No, God no.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: What's dumb about that?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: That's me. Dribblers who don't know, Catherine, in her enormous generosity,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: went online and bought us– they're clearly 3D printed. They're
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the shape of a magic wand and you put your
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: credit card in it and you pay for things. So good.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So good but also stupid.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Not stupid.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Brilliant.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: And I've just realised that I left money in my
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: car that I sold.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Not even close.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: With the credit card in it. I think the car
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: you sold– With the credit– Where is my wand? This
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: is my card with a credit card.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I'll be right back. I need to go and make
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: some frank calls.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: That is hilarious. You want to put a block on
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: that card straight away? Straight away.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Oh. God, you idiot. Was it under the seat or something?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It must be.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: You didn't even clean the car out.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: You had no idea to clean it out. But that
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: was the last place I saw it. Man, I don't
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: know where it is.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Anyway, every so often I get someone saying to me,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Liz Ellis should be the Prime Minister. I'm having doubts
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: at the moment.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: No.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Liz Ellis has given away the Treasury.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Liz Ellis is not as smart as, you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: people think.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I am prone to buying a lot of stupid shit
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: on the internet. Now, my algorithm is very mean. because
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: it knows how old I am. So it's constantly sending
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: me creams for my neck, ads for creams. And I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: will quite often think, well, I'll just give this one
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a try, this different bit. They never work. I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they're quite nice. You put them on your skin, whatever.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But I, Pete, My husband actually said to me, he
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: thinks things that we're seeing on Instagram are like, remember
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: when we were kids and you'd read the comic books
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and on the back page was an ad for the
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: sea monkeys? Remember that? And they looked like these little
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: magical creatures living in their magical kingdom. And it looked
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: so wonderful. And they're sea lice, basically. So you get
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: these things, they come in a packet, you put water
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: and they sort of wake up and they just like
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: absolutely nothing like the ad. And he said he thinks
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Instagram advertising... is akin to the sea monkeys, that we're
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: all just buying bullshit in the hope that it is something.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So really, I buy a lot of kind of stupid stuff,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but I can't think of anything that is cataclysmically dumb.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I did buy this leather cleaning stuff that I thought
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was going to fix up these leather chairs for us.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And I started using it and he walked out and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: just roared with laughter and he said, did you see
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: that on the internet? No, it just didn't work the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: way they said it was going to. But anyway, Liz?
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I learnt my lesson. I don't buy stuff online because
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: when it's wrong, I don't send it back as we have.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: It sits there behind you for a year. It sits
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: behind me.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: And you never send it back because I'm not sending
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: my stuff back to freaking China.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I've got on Timu that's kind of like all of those.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Ones I did buy that broke.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: No, but I told you about my Halloween costume.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: There was the Mona Lisa frame.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: That had no frame, so it flopped on me. That's
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: one of them. Oh, God, that was funny. But no,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I actually bought, I'm not sure if I mentioned this
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: to you guys, but For people that have everything, you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: you just don't know what to get them.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, I'll narrow it down.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: He's a wine drinker, loves a good watchman, likes saying people,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: what can I do around this?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a good guy to know. Yep.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Goes into the little Google searches and finds a decanter
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: in the shape of a penis.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: And four glasses that are the shape of testicles.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Well, do you really need the glasses?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Don't you just drink?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Don't go around. You've got to if.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: You want to. I thought I'm just going to get
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: me some porridge. If nothing else, I'll get a laugh
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: out of it, which will be great because he loves
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. And then if he has a
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: dinner party and wants to bring out the dick and balls,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: put it in the centre of the table.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You would. You would, 100%. You might not lead with that,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: but after main course, I reckon that's when you'd go,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and would anyone like a fortified wine?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: No.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So has it arrived?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: It's brilliant.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Can you share photos of it?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Fantastic. And step away from your phone, Catherine, at night.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: But why? Then I don't have any stories to tell you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: That's true. And I appreciate it. Hey, before we go,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of things. We are building the number of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: countries that No Dribble has been listened to. We are
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: now in 120. Now, the additions are Jersey, North Macedonia.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and Madagascar now. But we've also got a dribbler. Yeah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that's what I thought. All the lemurs out there, I
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: like to dribble, dribble. But we have a dribbler by
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the name of Lauren Brown who is in Azerbaijan and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: sent a photo and it's not popping up on the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: map yet, Lauren. So I don't know, I'm worried that
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: our Broadcast platform is not adequately mapping the countries we're
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: in because Azerbaijan is not coming up. But we appreciate you.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And she was wearing her Firebirds shirt when she was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: in Azerbaijan. So represent, doing what you do, doing the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: right thing there. So 120 countries, thank you. And hello,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Texas Blue Bonnets. Thank you very much for your message.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: They're waiting for us, apparently. The Texas Blue Bonnets, yep.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm desperate to go to Texas. Everything's bigger in Texas, I'll.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Fit right in.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, thank you. Keep letting us know where you're
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: listening from. We absolutely love it. But that is all
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: we have time for today for our Wednesday episode. Thanks
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: for joining us. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis. Bye.