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Alrighty, I think we might as well just get right in it
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tonight. Think I got everything right
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here? Yeah.
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So welcome to our weekly Bible study, some of you already on
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where we discuss God's Word and we let it transform our lives.
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We're going to talk about what God wrote to us in Hebrews
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tonight. And of course, we welcome any
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kind of chat or questions or comments for the duration too.
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So you can always hop on the chat wherever you're watching
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and and do that. So of course, like always, you
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can find links to our podcast and past recordings at our
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everything out there. We are starting tonight in
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Hebrews chapter 13 and we'll start in verse 9 and to kick it
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off and looks like we lost some of our guys here.
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They'll be back. Anyway, we'll get we'll get
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started. In the meantime, if I could ask
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Aaron to open us up with a word of prayer, that'd be great.
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Our most totally and righteous Father.
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We are so thankful to be able to have the technology to together
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like this and study your word and at all these distances from
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each other that we are. And we're just thankful most of
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all that you've preserved your word for us, that we have it and
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that we are able to know that you had a hand in keeping it
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pure and keeping it true for us. We pray that we'd be LED by your
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Spirit to see the truth that's in it, that you'd bring out
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those things that are true, those things that are right, and
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those things that are profitable to us.
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Help us to say things that encourage each other, that might
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help someone that's listening and help us to grow in our faith
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and our confidence that we have in you and your word.
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Just ask you bless us tonight as we go through all these things
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we ask in Christ precious name, Amen.
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Thank you. Appreciate that.
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OK, so get a running start here really quick.
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Of course, we're in chapter 13. I'll read verse 9 says be not
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carried about with divers and strange doctrines for it is a
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good thing that the heart be established with grace, not with
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meats which have not profited them that have been occupied
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therein. And so last week or the last
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couple of weeks, we talked about this being kind of a recap of
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what the book of Hebrews kind of talked about in great, great
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detail from the first chapter until the 12th.
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And now he's looks to me like he's kind of recapping almost or
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giving some of the high points going into this.
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Like for us to remember as this is the last book, it's the last
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page of his letter, kind of reiterating some of the
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important things maybe. So that's that's kind of what
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we're looking last last couple weeks we talked about having
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brotherly love, you know, watching out for our brothers,
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being conscious of them and doing stuff for their good,
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remembering those that are in bonds, of course.
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And we talked about those brothers that would have rule
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over us. Really good stuff.
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You'd go back and like I said, find those links to those
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episodes. I think I think that's some
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pretty good study stuff there. But tonight be not carried away,
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carried about with divers and strange doctrines and you know,
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just a warning. I think that is something that
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is important for us to remember, that Satan would have us to be
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like a man tossed to and fro, you know, being double minded or
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being unsure or having our our confidence maybe undermined by
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something second best or have something else compete with the
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purity of the gospel. I think we see that a lot too.
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So yeah, good words. I'll toss it over to you for
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your thoughts there. Yeah, I I was reminded of the
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passage that you just kind of quoted somewhat in your little
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opening there, but it's in Ephesians chapter 414.
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It says that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and
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fro, carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight
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of men and cutting craftiness whereby they lie and wait to
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deceive, but speaking the truth. And love may grow up into Him in
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all things, which is the head, even Christ.
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And so the book of Ephesians is really emphasizing the oneness
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that we should be believing in one God, one Father, 1 Lord, 1
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faith, 1 baptism, and that we should be established in that
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truth. And the book of Hebrews has
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really, as you already mentioned, has hammered that
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same truth over and over and over again.
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And the previous verse, verse eight, kind of sums it all up.
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Jesus Christ, he's the same yesterday, today, forever.
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This is where we build our lives and our doctrine and our
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theology and our, our understanding of our who God is,
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because that's where grace comes from.
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And we ought not to establish our lives with diverse and
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strange doctrines. And I, I always think when I
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hear those terms diverse and strange, I think of really
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random weird doctrines, but he actually narrows it down.
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He's not talking about just out of the ordinary weird stuff that
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some, you know, conspiracy theorist thought up online.
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He's talking about somebody who's teaching like he's going
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to talk about an altar and a sacrifice and beasts and blood
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offerings and doctrines that are contrary to and diverse from the
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one true doctrine, which is Christ.
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So he says don't be carried about with all these doctrines.
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And I, I kind of understand it because probably all of us, when
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we first got saved and understood the gospel, there was
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a newness and a, a preciousness about the gospel that came over
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us where nothing could distract us.
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We were just sold out, hungry for this truth and digging in
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and going after it constantly. And there's a really an
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excitement about that. And sometimes people chase that
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feeling they'll they'll latch on to Christ and be really excited
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about the simplicity of what God has done for them in Christ.
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But then they're like, yeah, but have you heard this other new
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thing? Now I'm really excited about
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this or now I'm excited about feast days, all those things.
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They really excite me because they talk about all these
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things. And maybe at first it begins
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with they talk about Christ and they talk about this, that the
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other thing. But he says, don't be carried
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about with them. Don't be moved away from the
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simplicity of the gospel through these diverse and strange
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doctrines. It's a good thing to establish
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your heart with grace. So the doctrines of outward
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appearance won't establish you and grace.
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The doctrines of what type of clothes you should wear or not
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wear will not establish your heart with grace.
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What kind of vehicle you should drive, where you can go, where
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you can't go, what kind of songs you have to sing or Can't Sing,
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what kind of music is allowed or isn't allowed, what kind of you
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know, all on and on and on it goes outward things.
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Those are like meat. Don't establish your heart with
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meat, with outward things, with physical things.
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Rather establish your heart on this present truth that Jesus
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Christ is the same yesterday, today, forever, and he has
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purchased our freedom. And we should, as the apostle
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Paul says near the end of his life, he said, I glory and
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nothing save the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the
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world was crucified unto me, and I unto the world.
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And so throughout his Christian life, he focused more and more
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and more on the cross of Christ because that's where grace is
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found. And so don't be LED astray into
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these things that do not profit. So there's lots of interesting
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doctrines that might help build your understanding of who God
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is, but some of them you can argue and debate over until
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Kingdom come and not really profit anyone.
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And I think he's just basically saying be really careful not to
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be carried away by those diverse doctrines.
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That's good. Air.
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I hate to mess that up and add to it.
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Really. No, no, I really I totally
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agree. I think it's, I think it is so
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true because what rung the truest to me is what Dan said
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about people have a tendency, they have a tendency to want to
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be excited about something new. And I think that this is just a
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warning to be, you know, he says it is a good thing that the
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heart be established with grace. So it's a good thing to have a
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firm foundation in the gospel to be anchored there and not run
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off after, as he said, all these other little things that would
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pop up. And and I think they had already
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said this, but I would also distinguish that between healing
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back the layers of truth right there.
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There's obviously a great benefit to to getting, he
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already told us that earlier in the book.
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Get off me and get off the milk and go on to meet right.
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So there is a benefit to moving on in your understanding and
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moving on to how it affects your life.
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Personally, I would have said this about chapter 13.
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Is that up to chapter 13? A lot of it has been the truth
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of what Christ has done for us. And it's almost like 13.
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He throws in several things here that are just, they're just good
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advice, right? I mean, it's good advice to
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apply to your life. And so, you know, that's not
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what he's warned about. He's not warned about learning
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more or, or getting more understanding of, of God and who
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he is or you know, of, of these other things that are written in
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other places. But he is saying, well, let me
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say it a different way. I know a few people, not just
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one, but a few people that every gimmick that comes along that I
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don't even like that that has no appeal to me because I know it's
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a gimmick. They grab on to every one of
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them, right? I mean, this new thing comes
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along. It's like, oh, this is the way
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I'm going to get rich or oh, this is the way you do this
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thing or oh, this is the way to eat.
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And I think he's warning, you know, about like Dan said, it's
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very specific. It is going back to meats or
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feast days or whatever, which is in context with the chapter.
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And it's it's a very specific thing.
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Don't try to grab on to what this to every little whim that
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comes along that people are trying to press on you and.
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That's that's good stuff, Velvet.
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Yeah, I think that's so good what you guys are saying,
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because it's so easy for us to, you know, get focused away from
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just the gospel of Christ because obviously that's what
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was happening here. You know, here they were going
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back wanting to go back to the law, which included meats.
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And he's going to go on and talk in the next couple verses about
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the altar and all that. And so the the believers here
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that he is written writing two were Jews.
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And so he's telling them to not be tired away with those other
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diverse and strange doctrines that might include Christ, but
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call you away from the grace of Christ.
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I think the keyword there is the word that he says it is good
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thing that the heart be established with grace.
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So I think grace is the keyword there because anything outside
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of Christ and in Christ alone is not grace anymore.
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It's works involved in some some sort right And I like what it
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says in Galatians 1/6. It says Paul says, I marvel that
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ye are so soon removed from him that called you into unto the
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grace of Christ unto another gospel which is not an other,
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but there be some that trouble you and would pervert the gospel
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of Christ. And so I think that's what he's
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saying here. He's just warning them or
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encouraging them to not be carried away with different
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strange doctrines and just simply be grounded in the grace
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and of Christ and in Christ alone.
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Amen. Andrew.
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Yeah, I I would say the same thing.
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It's he's emphasizing the importance of being consistent
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with the finished work of Christ.
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And he just got done saying it the same yesterday, today and
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forever. And it's like since the
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sacrifice, the cross and the work of the cross has never
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changes, that grace will always be there, it always will be the
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same and it's always sufficient. And it's something that came in
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after the old was left. I I think he's talking about, he
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talked about it before in Hebrews 9 when he said in verse
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Chapter 9, verse 9, it says which was a figure for the time
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then pressing in which were offered both gifts and
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sacrifices that could not make him that did the service perfect
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as pertaining to the conscience which stood only in meats and
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drinks and divers washings and carnal ordinance imposed on them
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until the time of reformation. So it's not a good doctrine to
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be caught up with something that was for until the time of before
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the grace came. The heart now is supposed to be
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established with grace, not with meats.
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Abstaining from meats and having these divers divers means just a
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bunch of different ones, more than one doctrine.
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It's like Dan was saying you all.
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I think we're saying like there's many different doctrines
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we can get carried away with. And he mentioned meats here.
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If you notice, like the vegetarians and the people that
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really watch the meat and clean and unclean meat.
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When he says not to have a heart established with that, I very
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much know what it means. These people, they would feel
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like they're caught in public with in their underwear if they
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couldn't do their meat thing. Like their heart is very much
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involved. I mean, it's very personal to
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them. They get upset.
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It's like it is like a religion. Even the unbelievers that are
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vegetarians, it's like a religion that they practice very
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much. The heart is established on that
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thing. They'll they'll look away at
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fornication. They'll look away at all kinds
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of sins of the heart to establish meats and these
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diverse doctrines. They will do that.
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And I think that's what he's telling us, that it's not worth
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it. And one thing that I noticed
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that surprises me is how in first Timothy Ford almost he
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used a lot of the same words, talks about doctrines, good
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doctrines, bad doctrines, faith, grace, and not being able to
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live in the reproach that Christ endured.
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It says the Spirit expressly reads in the latter times, that
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some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
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spirits and doctrines of devils. Spending lies in the property of
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having their conscience with a hot iron.
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The doctrines of devils, which is one of those diverse
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doctrines forbidding to marry, abstaining from meats which
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cannot, which God hath created to be received with
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Thanksgiving. Of them which believe and know
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the truth. For every creature is good, and
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nothing is to be refused if it is to be received with
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Thanksgiving. The transition that God is
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looking for us to make is that now we worship God in spirit and
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in truth and and our lips sacrifice, our lips praise his
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name, our lit our mouth thanks God for the food and it's
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sanctified. It set apart, our mouth opens up
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and we praise God for all that he has done and we worship his
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complete work. And that is the sacrifice that
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God is well pleased with, not these other sacrifice like these
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diverse doctrine. I think I'm just going to leave
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it at that. Like it, it changed from faith
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and the work that God has done that we speak, that we say with
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our mouth, we confess with our mouth, we we glorify him with
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our mouth now. And things happen based on what
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we say and what we believe, not the physical act of doing some
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of the old stuff and these old doctrines.
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So that really wipes out all those people that have these pet
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doctrines that man, you don't better not touch it because
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their hearts very much established on it.
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That's that's the main point I want to make is how you can tell
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that their heart is extremely attached and established on
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those doctors. Yeah, I know.
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That's that's good stuff. One thing I thought.
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I I thought I'll go ahead and then go ahead Dad.
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We'll, we'll spend 1/2 hour on this verse.
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I'll bet. But now what, what stood out to
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me about this verse 2 is have you noticed that he is saying
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that those beats have not profited them?
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There you go as if as if he's saying that the the gospel of
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grace does is profitable to you. I just, you know, and I don't
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think that he's talking money here, but but the word profit is
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like value added enhanced value, right?
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Like it, it, it like if if you have a profit, it's more and
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above the seed, you know, it's it's the extra, it's the more
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and I just I just find it. That's an interesting use of
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words there when he says use the word profited them that have
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been occupied there. I find that interesting.
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Oh, you got it. I thought you were going to move
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on to the next verse and I was going to just make a point of
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that because nobody had really touched on those people that
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exercise their hearts with meats like Andrew described, who build
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their life on these outward things.
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It's not profitable to them. It doesn't actually work.
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And I'm looking at First Timothy 4, which you also quoted Aaron
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Andrew, for. Bodily exercise profiteth.
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Little profiteth, but godliness is profitable unto all things,
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having the promise of the life that now is and that which is to
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come. So very similar type of passage
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in the in First Timothy 4. Yeah, yeah, that's good stuff.
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All right, I will go on to the next one.
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Yeah, go ahead, Dad on verse 10. Well, actually, let me read. 10
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says we have an altar where of they have no right to eat, which
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served the Tabernacle for the bodies of those beasts whose
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blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for
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sin or burnt the cab where for Jesus also that he might
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sanctify the people with his own blood suffered without the gate.
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I know that's kind of three verses there and each one has a
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period, but it it to me, it's kind of the it's the ball of wax
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there. So go ahead on whatever part of
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that you'd like to discuss there.
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Yeah, that would definitely be a lot to try to cover in one
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little blurb here. But the last passage them that
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has not profited them that have been occupied therein.
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We have an altar wherever they I think it's the same people that
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he's referring to the them of the previous verse.
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They have no right to eat which serve the Tabernacle.
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So the people, the Levites that served in the Old Testament
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Tabernacle that established their hearts with meats, with
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blood offerings, with ordinances, with rules, with
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customs, with procedure and policy, they had no right to eat
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of this Tabernacle or of the altar that we now get to eat of
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by faith. And Jesus in John chapter 6
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describes himself as the bread of life, the Father's 8 manna
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and the wilderness. They're dead.
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The bread that I'm coming giving to you is come down from heaven.
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If you eat from it, you shall never die.
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And he's kind of flipping the script here a little bit.
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Where before in the Old Testament, under the old system
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in the Tabernacle, you would did establish your hearts by meats,
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by ordinances, by principles, by doing the right thing, adding,
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you know, crossing all your T's and dotting all your IS and
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getting all your ducks in a row. You had to do it just correctly.
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But he says those people who did all of that correctly, it didn't
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actually profit them. They didn't actually gain what
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they were looking for. We have by grace we have
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attained that which they were looking for and they trying to
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establish their hearts by meats have no right to eat of the
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altar that we now eat of that we eat of by faith.
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We eat of Christ and his flesh that he gave for us, right.
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And so then he goes into this the body of the beast whose
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blood is brought into the sanctuary of the high priests
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are burned without the camp. I I don't even know for sure,
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for sure where to fit that in, but I wanted to point that I
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don't know. Let somebody else touch on those
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other verses. Eric, Go.
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Ahead, I'll just read a verse that says what Dan just said.
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This is Romans 931. Romans 931 says But Israel,
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which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained
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to law of righteousness were four, because they sought it not
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by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.
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For they stumbled at that stumbling stone, as is written,
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Behold, I lay in son, a stumbling stone, a rock of
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offense. Whosoever believeth on him shall
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not be ashamed. Romans 10/1 says, My brethren,
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my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they
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might be saved. For I bury them record they have
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a zeal of God, right? I mean, what we just said, they
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established their hearts in some law, right?
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I mean, they're seeking God through something.
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I bury them record they have a zeal of God, but not according
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to knowledge for they being ignorant of God's righteousness
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and going about to establish their own righteousness have not
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submitted themselves under the righteousness of God for Christ
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is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that
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believeth right. It didn't profit him any because
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they wasn't seeking it. They and said this, but that
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verse says it real well they weren't seeking it by faith
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right. I mean that was a real issue.
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They were doing a work, they were actually, and all the
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people, I would give them credit, all the people today,
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they're seeking righteousness, right?
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They're not going about to to worship on the the true Sabbath
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or stop eating meat to try to be evil.
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They're not doing that to try to indulge the flesh, right?
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They're actually withholding from the flesh to do those
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things. So they are seeking
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righteousness, just not by faith, right?
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They're not doing it the right way.
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That's dead on. That's so good.
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That's Colossians 2. Right.
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Good stuff. I love that.
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That's so awesome. Yeah.
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It seems like like he's showing the believers here, the Hebrew
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believers, how that Christ actually fulfilled the law,
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right? Because because what he's saying
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here, he says for the bodies of those beasts whose blood is
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brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin are
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burned without the camp. So the the animals that were
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brought for the sin offering, if I understand this correctly, I
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looked into Leviticus a little bit.
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The the animals that were brought for the sin offering,
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not the there was a confessing, not confession offering, but
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there's, there's several different offerings that they
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would bring animals for ought to offer for specifically the ones
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for the sin offering had to be burnt without the camp.
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Like they would take the blood and they would take the fat and
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they would put it on the altar. The high priest would, and then
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they would take the rest of the animal outside of the camp and
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they would God had commanded that it would be burnt outside
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of the camp. And So what I see here is, is
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he's just showing them. Why would you go back to the law
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when Christ has fulfilled the law because he died outside in
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in verse 12, it says that Jesus also that he might sanctify the
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people with his own blood suffered without the gate.
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Christ died outside of the city of Jerusalem, outside of the
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walls of the city of Jerusalem because which is like outside of
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the gate right of the of the Tabernacle, so to speak.
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If what he's showing us here, the reason he had to do that is
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so that he was his sacrifice is sufficient for our sins.
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So, so why go back to this law again, right?
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And so he's just showing them, hey, look, what Christ did is
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sufficient, right? Right, Andrew?
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OOP. Gotcha.
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He's a new hang. On a SEC, go ahead.
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Oh, now I lost my train of thought.
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It comes back to whether you put your faith and belief in what
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God has done in His Son and bringing and redeeming us.
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Most people will believe in that, that Jesus dies for our
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sins. That through him is how we're
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going to go to heaven. Millions of religious people
27:20
that don't know God believe that.
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They believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, but
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they're not safe according to the God.
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According to God. When you believe the gospel, you
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don't believe in anything else. You don't trust in anything
27:38
else. You don't trust both in the work
27:40
of Christ and also in the work of flesh.
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You don't have any confidence in the flesh when you get when you
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gain confidence in in Christ and his sacrifice when you see Jesus
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hanging there, you don't see yourself anymore when you see
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that he has completed the sacrifice completed the the
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redemption in Colossians 2. It says we're completing him.
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When you see that you stop trying to make me made complete
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by anything you do and you find your completion in him and where
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I think there's a missing link a lot of times that I forget to
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mention is that a lot of people that hear that they then somehow
28:22
think that we're somehow free now to do as we please or or
28:29
that we're teaching that you can do as you please because you're
28:32
no longer under the law. I won't say we're under a more
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stricter law than we ever were. It says the the carnal law of
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commandments could never make us perfect, but the law of life in
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Christ Jesus. I can't even quote it now, but
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there's the law of the Spirit of the life of Christ in us that I
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think is way more effective than any law of Moses could ever be.
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In that the Spirit is within us, convicting us to where the law
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might have said to go with the neighbor a mile, where the
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Spirit might say go within 2 miles.
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The Spirit, the law of the Spirit and the life of Christ in
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US is what God has provided to change our lives for something
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to walk after that makes us a better person than the law could
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ever make us. In other words, what I'm trying
29:34
to say is if you, if we really believe in the Gospel and we'll
29:36
walk in the Gospels, our lives will actually our outward life,
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the way we act, the way we live should be way better, a higher
29:47
standard than any law following religious following person would
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ever be. That looks good on the outside.
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That was the problem that God had with the law is that it
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makes you good and the Pharisees, it's like you guys
30:00
look good on the outside, but it's kind of like a a coffin.
30:06
And that's what God hated. So his purpose was to change you
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from within and that hit the work of his Son would bring
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forth the fruit of righteousness.
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And so I don't want to miss that.
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Like when we're teaching this that we're not saying that, oh
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Jesus, make me free now I'm free to you as I please.
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I know that sounds kind of dumb, but people actually think that,
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you know? And if you think that you need
30:38
the laws of some Levitical thing or meats, then I don't know that
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you have the Spirit. I don't because the Spirit is
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supposed to be superior to that. A perfected man in Christ Jesus
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lives different than alumni in the person.
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I would trust the Spirit LED person 10 * / a man that is led
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by the law. Yeah, yeah, that's good.
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Cameron posted here regarding this.
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He says I see the Levitical priesthood versus Melchizedek
31:09
priesthood being compared here. I see these scriptures leading
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the Hebrews to the faith that is of Christ, which that's that's a
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good point. I there's the law of Moses that
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there's a law of the spirit of life.
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Just look at the difference. Behold the intimacy of Christ in
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US and the very thought of sitting because freedom from
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religion is disgusting. Yeah, that's.
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A good. Point that's I agree with that
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100%. So, yeah, and and any of you
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have additional comments on the the last two there versus at the
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11 or 12? I think I would probably save
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them for when we read verse 13, but one of the passages that
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came to mind just now and Andrew was speaking was Romans 84, that
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the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in US who
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walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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Yeah. All right, so 13 verse 13 So
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Hebrews 1313 says Let us go. Therefore let us go forth
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therefore unto him without the cap, bearing his reproach.
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And obviously that kind of goes on verse 12 there wherefore
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Jesus also that he might sanctify the people with his own
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blood, suffered without the gate.
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Go ahead on on comments on that if you would.
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Yeah, so those that serve the Tabernacle still feel sufficient
32:32
in themselves. They still feel confident that
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they're doing the right things. They're still following the
32:38
commands, following the laws, doing the meats.
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They believe that they're doing what God wants and that God
32:43
can't really be upset with them as long as they're still in the
32:46
Tabernacle trying to offer God's sacrifices.
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However, they have no right to eat of the altar that Christ has
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established for us. And like Melvin mentioned,
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Christ went outside of Jerusalem.
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Why are you Christians now thinking of going back into
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Jerusalem to get your sufficiency and to establish
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your hearts. So basically the the the
33:06
encouragement comes down to this is be willing to be the odd man
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out. Be willing to not fit in with
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all the religious do gooders that are doing the right thing.
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You might be doing the thing that they think is wrong at
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times, but you're following the way that Christ, a Christ also
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was taken outside of the city and crucified.
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So in regards to religion, in regards to sinful activity, we
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ought not to be worried about being the odd man out.
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Jesus was hated and the author is simply asking us to do the
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same in return. Be willing to suffer for your
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faith. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's right, Eric. Can you hear me or not?
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Yeah, OK. Well, it disappeared for a
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second there for me, but I don't really know.
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I'll be honest, I haven't studied it enough to know, but I
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feel like there is some significance to this.
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I'll tell you what I generally think.
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And like I said, I that I haven't really, I mean, I have
34:07
went over that. We're going over it on Wednesday
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night where I teach. And I know that's true that they
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would like somebody said this earlier, the blood we poured out
34:16
the altar, they would gather some of the blood poured at the
34:19
altar. They would take some of the
34:22
maybe better cuts almost of meat and maybe burn some of those on
34:26
the altar. And then the rest of the stuff
34:28
will be taken outside the camp and burned, right.
34:30
I mean, ain't that kind of even in the offering there on the Day
34:34
of Atonement? I think that happened.
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But so I think there is some significance to that, that we
34:41
could point to Christ because obviously he is, He is the
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light. We lost him, he disappearedly.
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Bell would go ahead if you have anything and then we'll finish
34:57
his thoughts when he comes back. Yeah, I think it is just a
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continuation obviously of 1011 and 12 referring to Christ and I
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I like what it it gives an invitation there almost it are
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not just almost it does give us an invitation there in verse 13
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it says let us go forth therefore unto him referring to
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Christ without the camp bearing his reproach.
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And so, you know, I think it's so beautiful when we commit our
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lives to Christ and in Christ alone, it, it's not going to be
35:34
maybe as an easy life, so to speak, but it is a life of peace
35:40
and joy and peace, like inner peace with God, right?
35:45
Because when we live for Christ and when we put our whole life
35:51
into Christ, we're going to bear some things that are not because
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it's outside of the camp, so to speak, like it, it's not really
36:01
the the religious, what the religious people do to just be
36:07
safe, right? Because it seems like when
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you're, you know, in religion and it seems like religious
36:13
people are the ones that are actually against those that are
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just putting their faith in Christ.
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And so I think it's such a good thing it's just an invitation
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for us. Here in verse. 13 to to come to
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Christ, even though we might suffer some reproach by doing
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that and especially from like he just said, you know, diverse,
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diverse doctrines and, you know, to not be established and that
36:45
and so there's there's going to be opposition that comes right.
36:49
But hey, so be it and let's let's keep our eyes on Christ,
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right? Yeah, yeah, That's good, you
36:56
know, and I'll let you finish your thought here, Aaron.
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But it seems almost like this is what, like metaphor.
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Is that the right metaphorical language?
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Almost in a sense that I think this the the this idea applies
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in multiple aspects. You know, it was the the
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offering that was that it was slave and then part of it was
37:16
taken without the camp. Then here, you know, this, this
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spot is the the holiest that does the spot on Mount Zion
37:24
where God is. That's the spot that is, you
37:26
know, inside the camp. And then there's the outside of
37:28
the unholy, the unrighteous, you know, out there.
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And that's kind of what I see these parallels.
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And I don't know if therefore is the right word or not, but that
37:37
we we see that. That's why, you know, it's not
37:40
the it's the sick ones that beat a doctor.
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It's the the ones out there that beat the gospel.
37:45
That that's kind of what the parallel that I see him drawing
37:48
here. Maybe, you know, as as a like
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Dan said earlier, kind of like like voting, telling us these
37:56
are the things that we can do, some of the things that we could
37:59
do as a Christian. So anyway, Eric, go ahead.
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You were kind of on to something good there.
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I thought, yeah. Yeah, I would.
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Just I don't know where I left off at.
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So I'll just kind of start a new what I can see in this is that
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Christ, obviously Christ himself is not offered inside the temple
38:21
like all those like all those other sacrifices was on the Day
38:25
of Atonement and all that so on and so forth.
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But he's already told us earlier that the he told us a few
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chapters back that his blood is actually offered in the true
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Tabernacle, which is in heaven, right?
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So he said that's actually where the real offerings made.
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I think you can see the symbolism in that his body is
38:48
offered outside the camp, right? He wasn't burned out there, but
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he's he dies out there. He goes outside the camp and
38:54
does that. But to me, what I really see in
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this is a another motivating verse for them to not feel like
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the place that atonement is made is in that Tabernacle that
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they're seeing in their day, right?
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That's not where the real atonement was made.
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It's actually, he's already told us it's made in heaven and
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Christ is sacrificed outside the camp.
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So don't go back in there looking as if that's where it's
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going to be made. I just told you a chapter here
39:22
ago that it was actually made in heaven itself.
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You know, the blood was actually offered to God in heaven itself.
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So don't go back in there looking as if that's the real
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place that the real Lamb of God is going to be offered.
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Christ is the Lamb of God. His blood was offered in heaven.
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And and I just think that that's, I don't know that that's
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kind of what I saw in that verse, but.
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Boom, I think that's real good. Yep, absolutely.
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Very good. Andrew.
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Yeah, that's very good, very true.
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I was just going to say that we've said many times that you
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can tell these people were persecuted and so they were
40:03
burying the reproaches. And he's just telling them,
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look, that's nothing new, Christ or the reproaches outside the
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camp. And we need to bear the
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reproaches and we need to be able to look like a filthy sin
40:20
offering sometimes, like doesn't look good sometimes.
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The name of God is blasphemed by the unbelief and the sin of
40:33
Christians all the time. We we really do a good job in
40:38
ruining our the reputation of a believer a lot of times.
40:41
And then you know, the unbelievers, they, they will
40:44
gladly pounce on that. And that's unfortunate.
40:48
But nevertheless, we need to bear the reproaches of whatever
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comes. Why do we lose all our friends
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like Melvin was saying, whether we are different, whether we're
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not going with the flow, we're standing on Jesus Christ
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regardless of the persecution. And there's another verse in
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First Timothy 4 that I was saying that really goes seems to
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really goes with this chapter and or verse tenaces for
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therefore we both labor and suffer reproach because because
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we trust in the living God who is the Savior of all men,
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especially for those that believe.
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Good stuff. Absolutely.
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OK, verse 14 for here have we no continuing city, but we seek
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what to come. Yeah, we'll just do that little
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short one. Any thoughts on that?
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I think this is kind of hitting the nail on the head exactly
41:52
what Andrew said is that they're tempted, they're struggling,
41:56
they're having a difficult time and and the the flesh, their
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desires, their natural tendencies is to seek a city
42:04
here to build something here to establish their hearts in meats
42:08
and physical things, to have a continuing city to have
42:12
posterity, to have, you know, a world that that fits my my wants
42:18
and my desires and my wishes. But he says don't think about
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that in this life. We have a world that is to come
42:23
that is subject to man as well-being, Christ being the the
42:27
captain of our salvation. But we're not living for this
42:30
world here and now. To me, I, I don't know what my,
42:34
my post millennial friends might do with a verse like this.
42:37
I'm sure they have an answer for it.
42:39
They typically have their ways of seeing things.
42:42
But to me, this kind of takes all of our hope away from
42:46
anything here lasting. We're not looking to build
42:49
anything lasting here. Do I want my children and my
42:51
grandchildren, my great grandchildren to worship the
42:54
Lord? Absolutely.
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Would I like to see them build, you know, have a church and have
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their children born in that church as well, where they
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gather together with the same community of believers and all
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those things? Yes, of course.
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But he reminds us we have no continuing city here, but we
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seek one to come, like Abraham, looking for a city who has that
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foundations. His builder and maker is God.
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We're not looking to establish ourselves here.
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So don't be afraid to go without the camp where Christ suffered.
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Don't worry about the fact that all your Jewish people are
43:24
criticizing you for Christ not being back yet.
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Don't cave to the pressures of going back to Jerusalem.
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Stay outside the city. Go where Christ is.
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Don't worry about anything continuing here and now we see
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we're seeking for something that is better and more lasting and
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more permanent in the world that is to come.
43:43
So good, Velvet. Or, excuse me, I guess it's
43:46
Aaron's turn. It's whatever order you want to
43:50
go in. But but I was going to say, I
43:53
was actually going to maybe build on that a little.
43:56
What Dan just said. I actually think it's that's
43:59
part of the reason I said what I said earlier is because of verse
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14 for we have no continuing city because I would almost say
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it's one of those verses that they're going to look back on
44:13
because would you all agree? I think I don't know.
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I'd actually don't even know what the historical what they
44:18
would say, but I would assume by all the things he said, the
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temple is still here, right this before 70 AD, like when he's
44:25
writing this is that is that common thought?
44:29
I mean, so I would say this is one of those verses that
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whatever many years that happens, they may look back on
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what was written here and think, wow, what I thought would always
44:42
be here, like Jerusalem, like the temple is now gone, right.
44:47
It's it's actually it literally is gone now.
44:50
This city, this, this temple that I was seeing and I was
44:54
putting so much stock in at one time.
44:57
It's actually gone. So I said that to say this, that
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he, he has just he's he's made this similarity, like I said a
45:10
while ago that the Christ is he suffers without the camp.
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And I and I was just like I said, I don't know this is
45:16
right, but this is what I was thinking is that their body, if
45:20
you remember, if you go back and look at Exodus and different
45:23
places, they would take a lot of that the literal body of the
45:29
animal. They would take its blood and
45:30
poured at the altar, but the body would be taken outside the
45:34
camp and and and burnt gotten rid of out there.
45:38
Well, if you put that with Christ, think about his
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suffering, you know, like the the destroying, if you will, of
45:46
the body is outside the camp, but the but the but the
45:50
atonement of the blood is in the real Tabernacle in heaven,
45:56
right. I said that a while ago.
45:57
So he's saying we have no continuing city, but we seek one
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to come. The place where Christ's blood
46:06
is atoned is he's like going to come down.
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Would you agree with that? But that that's what we're told,
46:12
that New Jerusalem is going to come down.
46:13
God's going to be in that. Like that is actually something
46:17
we are looking forward to. So again, I think he's just
46:20
pointing them to something beyond what they have seen and
46:26
known. And like I said, I think in a
46:28
few years from this time, they're going to read this verse
46:30
and be like, yeah, sure enough, I mean, the temple is gone.
46:33
Like the thing that we put our trust in to think we was tempted
46:37
to go back and sacrifice that at is not even there anymore.
46:41
Like it's actually gone. So we are looking for this this
46:45
place that Christ actually did atone his body.
46:48
I mean, did atone his blood in. And I don't know, that may be a
46:52
jumbled thought, but that's just kind of what I was.
46:54
Thinking about. Yeah, I think, I think you're on
46:57
to something there, Velvet. Go ahead.
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Yeah, that's kind of I see here. I mean, he's just saying, look,
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guys, let's put our faith, keep our faith in Christ and not in
47:08
the Levitical priesthood and not in any earthly thing, including
47:13
a continuing city because you know, they in Jerusalem there
47:16
there is the Wailing Wall where, you know, just outside of where.
47:20
Actually the. Jerusalem was and you can only
47:24
get so close today, right? And there's people that go there
47:27
and and want to go to Jerusalem and, and he's just saying here,
47:32
why would you want to go to a city here on this earth?
47:36
Because we seek one to come because right now the new
47:40
Jerusalem is in the heavenly Tabernacle.
47:43
Like he, just like you were saying Aaron up in heaven right
47:46
now. And in in revelations, it says,
47:49
and I John saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem coming down
47:53
from God out of heaven prepared as he bride or deed adorn for a
47:58
husband. And what I really like what it
48:01
says in verse 3, it says, and I heard a great voice out of
48:04
heaven saying, behold, the Tabernacle of God is with men
48:09
and he will dwell with them. So in other words, we want to be
48:13
looking for a heavenly Jerusalem and someday that we're going to
48:18
dwell with God there with him, physically with him through our
48:24
faith in Christ and only in through our faith in Christ.
48:28
And I guess that's, I see that's what he's trying to come across
48:31
here to them. It's good, Andrew.
48:36
Yeah, I'll you guys did a good job of sharing what is
48:42
pertaining to the letter here and to the people was to I might
48:47
go a little different angle, like more of the present time
48:50
for us right now that I think this could be applicable to.
48:55
Is that how many times do we hear the word?
48:59
It's like I just don't fit in here.
49:02
It's hard for me to fit in like all these different cultures.
49:06
And I think this is a good verse to think about when you feel
49:09
that way is are you trying to fit in based on this life?
49:15
And are you looking at our cultures and your culture and
49:20
that culture, or are we looking at where we're one in the
49:26
spirit? There's a lot of verses in the
49:29
Bible that says we're all made one in the spirit that come from
49:32
whole different angles of life. But one thing that unites us and
49:36
makes US1 is spiritual wisdom and spiritual understanding.
49:41
So this verse really fires me up again to preach your gospel,
49:46
preach a message that has not, is not tied to any kind of
49:49
culture, any kind of backgrounds or religion or whatever.
49:55
The kind of gospel that unites us with the gospel that's going
49:58
to and the atonement and the blood that is already sprinkled
50:01
in the true Cabernet, something that unites us and makes US1
50:04
with that. So that no matter what
50:08
background you come from or what culture, when you hear the
50:12
message preached that our fellowship, it witnesses with
50:17
the Spirit that is in you and the Spirit that raised up Christ
50:20
from the dead. That makes you fit in.
50:23
You fit in that way because you fit in.
50:26
You're ministered to you're ministered to by heavenly
50:28
things, a city and have a spiritual Kingdom that is in
50:32
heaven. That is where you find you're
50:34
fitting in. That's where you find your
50:36
oneness. That's where you find your
50:38
fellowship, your meat. That's the food, that's your
50:45
your spiritual food that edifies.
50:47
Is there not man, you're speaking Dutch over there.
50:51
What is that? You know, I hope this verse
50:56
could help, you know, unite us more and see what's really
50:59
important. And it is that we see the city
51:03
that is not here, it's in heaven.
51:05
And that that could help us really enjoy fellowship with
51:10
different people. Knowing that, knowing this, you
51:13
know that our our unity is not in this culture.
51:19
Yeah, Yeah, that's good. I, I drove on Saturday, I drove
51:23
what, 12 hours something east of where I live.
51:28
And then Sunday morning we went to a little church down at the
51:31
foot of the hill in Eastern Kentucky.
51:35
And I sat in there and we sang together and we heard a word
51:40
preached and we heard prayer going up.
51:43
And I'll be something if they weren't praising and serving the
51:47
same God that I do in Iowa. And it was, it was speaking
51:51
right to my spirit, just like the one does there in Iowa.
51:54
And it was, it was exciting that I love that.
51:57
That was fun. It wasn't quite a random church.
51:59
I knew a guy that was preaching there.
52:00
But but it's good. I mean that that's kind of what
52:04
you're saying though. I mean, we get fit there in that
52:07
in that all that outside that he talked about in Chapter 11 or a
52:11
12 there. That's verse 22.
52:13
That's what we're talking about within the temple where God
52:17
presides, where he lives. That's that's pretty good.
52:19
Stuff. That's where you want to fit in
52:21
at anyway, right? Absolutely you know the rest of
52:23
it's kind of yeah, if it's comfortable great, but if it's
52:26
not So what that and that's kind of what he was saying in chapter
52:29
12 there anyway so yeah, hey that's good stuff.
52:35
All right let's see where we at here.
52:37
Verse 15 says by him. Therefore, let us offer the
52:41
sacrifice of praise to God continually.
52:45
That is the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His name.
52:51
I find it interesting that he calls this the sacrifice of
52:56
praise. I mean, we are always looking
52:59
for something that we can sacrifice, that we could give
53:01
up, that we can do. And often times I think that
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comes maybe from a, you know, in a sense, kind of a legalistic
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standpoint, maybe a little bit. But here he's asking for the
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sacrifice of praise. Isn't that cool?
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I love it. I heard a little bits of hints
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of this from Andrew early on at the beginning of our study here
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today about our our lips speaking.
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And I could tell he was thinking in terms of the whole chapter.
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And it makes a lot of sense to to look at that way, even if you
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look at the verses that we just went through.
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And then go back to chapter 13, verse 5.
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Let your conversation be without covetousness.
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Be content with such things as you have.
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He will never leave you nor forsake you.
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Go out of the city, be willing to suffer.
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We have no continuing city here. Like all that stuff ties
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perfectly together. And then like, it's like they
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desperately want this offering. They want to do some kind of
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sacrifice. We've got to offer something to
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God. But the people that made those
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sacrifices there, they have no place at our altar.
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But if you really want to make a sacrifice, how about you try
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this? This gives thanks for the things
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in his name that you have right now.
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Offer a sacrifice and praise to God continually all the time.
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We can do this at the dinner table.
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We can do this when we rise up in the morning, Thank God first
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thing in the morning. You can it.
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It sometimes takes a bit of a sacrifice because not everything
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in you is always going to want to give thanks for all the
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situations, all the circumstances, all the
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difficulties you're going through.
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You might be literally without the camp.
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You might be without your family.
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You might be kicked out of the church.
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You might have a really difficult time, your finances,
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your sickness, your health, whatever it might be, might be
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suffering. So it might be an actual
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sacrifice for you. But by him we can continually
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offer this sacrifice, the fruit of our lips.
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You know, you think about Cain bringing the fruit of the
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vegetables and, and all that to God and it wasn't sufficient.
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Abel brought the the sacrifice of blood, the lamb before God.
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It was an acceptable sacrifice. Now we have the one acceptable
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sacrifice, the blood of the Lord Jesus, Jesus.
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And because of that, now we can continually OfferUp these
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praises to God. What do we do?
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Thank you God for the one offering.
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Thank you for the great thing that you did for us.
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And this is the fruit of our lips going up to God, giving
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thanks in his name continuously. It's it's a beautiful privilege
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and ability that we now have. Yeah.
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Oh, that's good preaching, Aaron.
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I couldn't find the verse quick enough, but maybe one of you all
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know where it is. You know where where the guy
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comes to Jesus and says heal my son.
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And Jesus says, OK, I'll come over there.
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And he says, no, no, you just, you just speak a word because
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I'm a man under authority like you are.
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And he says, oh, I've not found such great faith.
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No, not in Israel. You remember the story I'm
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talking about Like I've not seen such great faith.
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That was a great honor to Jesus for the man to say you are in a
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position in which you don't need to come to my house, you can
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just do it right. He was recognizing him as God.
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And I think that when he says that this this offering of a
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sacrifice of the praise to God continually the fruit of our
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lives given thanks to his name. I mean, that's what I mean.
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God wants to be recognized for who he is, right?
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He there's really that's great honor.
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In fact, the opposite side of that is in Romans chapter 1 when
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he says that they because this is Romans 121 because that when
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they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were
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thankful. So I mean, think about he, he
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just called it an offering. He called it a sacrifice that
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you can make by honoring God, giving him praise and thanks for
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who he is. And it's like there's really
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compare that to what you would offer him and it's there's no
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comparison, right? He wouldn't call.
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He would call. He would actually be offended if
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you try to give him something or OfferUp something that you that
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you've done on your own or whatever.
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But he says, Now you praise me for who I am, and I'll, I'll,
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I'll call that a sacrifice. Right.
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I will appreciate that. I, I'll recognize that to be
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real. And so that that that's what I
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thought about the verse. That's right, the verse you were
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looking for was Luke 7, verse eight.
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OK, that story is? I knew the story, I just
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couldn't find it out. Yep, absolutely, Melvin.
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Yeah, I think it's just such a beautiful thing that we in
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Christ, we can we don't have to do a physical sacrifice anymore,
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right? That that that's what he just
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got done saying here previous verses, you know, pointing out
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about the Levitical was a physical sacrifice that had to
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be made for the term and his sin.
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And here it is saying that by him, by Christ.
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Therefore, let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God
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continue. That is the fruit of our lips
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giving thanks to his name. So whenever we're giving thanks
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to his name, it's just it's a actually offer of sacrifice to
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God. And that's such a beautiful
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thing. We don't have to go to the
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priest with our, you know, sacrifice and say here, you know
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it. It's just it our life is our
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words. Actually, what this verse is
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saying is a sacrifice of praise to God.
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And I think that's such a beautiful thing in Colossians 3
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and also gives us a, a picture here of what it looks like to be
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in fellowship with Christ with other believers, right?
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In Colossians, it says whatsoever you do in Word or
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deed and do all in the name of the Lord Jesus giving thanks to
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God and, and the Father by him. So it's just such a beautiful
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thing that we can be in the body of Christ with other believers
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and, and just be able to together be able to do this to
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God and just it's such a beautiful thing, right?
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Why would you go back to to a physical law and the physical
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things and it's such a spiritual thing.
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Yep, Andrew. Yeah, I just wanted to quickly
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point out that this is not as simple as saying thank you,
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Lord, for this. I'm so glad.
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But then I'm also thank you for this and I'm thank you for that.
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This is you adding up where he said in the book of Hebrews that
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this is the song. You look at Jesus, you look at
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the fact that he died outside the camp.
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You look at the fact that his blood is spring of the true
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Tabernacle. You add up all the things that
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God is telling us that His Son did, and you add it up and you
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go. You know what?
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I ain't got nothing to say except thank you, Jesus, Amen.
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God, I counted it. I'm there's nothing, there's no
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part of me saying, well, I feel a little holding.
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I I just can't fully trust. So what I would say to someone
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that is still sacrificing or still standing for means is that
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you're not thankful. God can't receive your words of
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Thanksgiving when you're actually holding out on him and
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adding it up and saying he's a little short.
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He's a little short on the sacrifice.
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That would be like me giving my daughter a gift that is a
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perfect gift and she all she can see is the shortcomings of that
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gift and she says thank you, dad, but you know she's holding
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out. You know, her heart's not
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settled in the completion of that gift and she she says the
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words thank you, Jesus, thank you for dying on the cross.
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Thank you. You know, we do all these
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sinners prayers and we we'd say these lousy prayers every Sunday
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about, you know, thank you for dying.
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And then we go right back to these diverse doctrines of
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devils, demons, a whole bunch of religion and that's unbelief and
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not being thankful. You can't thank God for
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something you don't believe in or trust in 100%.
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That's not true sacrifice of praise in my according to these
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verses. I don't think it is.
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No, that's good stuff. Like you gift your daughter a
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Chevy and she wants a Mercedes. Yeah, You know, she's unhappy
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that she get to get a Merced. Well.
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Our faith is hard. It gets tried.
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So we start reaching for things. We start seeing the
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shortcomings. This this sacrifice was supposed
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to make me happy. It was supposed to make me.
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This faith was supposed to put me on autopilot where everything
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is easy. And then we get tried and then
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we start reaching for diverse doctrines and I think we need to
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say where we know it's a complete gift and we're the
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sacrifice. Of Christ, Yep, Yep, I agree
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with that. I would say too, if you ever, if
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any anyone ever has a down day, I know this this is this works
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for me anyway. If you have a tough day or
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whatever, just settle it in your heart to go about and thank God
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for what he done what he did or who he is.
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You know how great he is, how awesome he is and that he thinks
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of you, that he, that he's your mediator.
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All those things like you start kind of contemplating what God
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is and or who he is and what he has done on our behalf.
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I don't think you could stay unhappy very long or I'm
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unthankful if you start actually like considering those things.
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So anyway, we'll quit there 2 minutes past, so good job.
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As we conclude today's study. Remember Hebrews 11/1.
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Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
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things not seen. And I pray that your faith would
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reveal biblical truths more clearly than your physical eyes
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can perceive the things before you.
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Join us next Monday as we continue to look at God's Word
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through the substance of faith. God bless you guys.
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I appreciate your time and your effort here this night.
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God bless.