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Indiana 23, Minnesota 16 (OT): Reaction with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (The IU Report, 3.121) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

0:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And welcome to my U-Fans, guys.
0:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I said on the 10-minute report this morning, I'm not even an I-U-Fans, but I can't even imagine the emotions you guys are feeling today, positive, negative, all the different emotions.
0:18
[SPEAKER_00]: What a crazy, crazy game you guys went to.
0:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a thriller.
0:23
[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt about it, probably the the first.
0:26
[SPEAKER_02]: The thriller I've been to in person for one of these dramatic games in the Anacene to have for the last couple of season seasons.
0:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
0:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It was stressful.
0:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like it took years off my life, but in the end they got it done.
0:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And there were so many horrible things that happened.
0:47
[SPEAKER_02]: First one, and we're going to talk about it.
0:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the big thing.
0:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Special teams, Mike, yes, there's just got awful.
0:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Anya wrote the book on how to keep a team that you were just clearly superior to in a game and it was with special teams It was ridiculous.
1:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I knew that Minnesota was gonna go into this game with the advantage in that category That was the one area of the game where I've knew Minnesota was better than Indiana You can't
1:15
[SPEAKER_01]: make up some of the stuff Indiana was doing one of four for fuel goals for right of it one of them you can't pin on him there was the bad snap but that ended up being a fumble so you could say he was one or three he missed a close one he had one blocked he hit one that nobody in the stadium thought was gonna go in I texted Grant during that one and said I've never heard more puckered but cheeks in a stadium
1:42
[SPEAKER_01]: then when he was kicking that field goal to tie the game in in the second half there and then up let's I'm glad Billy guy or goyer but the kicker the punter got his game day segment with just just since before the game because
1:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He might not even have a job on Monday.
2:00
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy was averaging 50 yards a kick at Hawaii.
2:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the air like just different there?
2:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was the mountains where the air was thinner in the ball sailed, but he had a literal 15-yard punt that led to points for Minnesota.
2:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He doubled that up with a 30-yard punt that put Minnesota in a position to run the one trick play that they did to score the touchdown that they scored.
2:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He was awful, uh, they have zero return game, kick off or punt, uh, not only do they don't have a punt return game, they have guys making just mistakes and the punt return game that you can't, you can't have fair catch the ball of the three.
2:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to name the guy's name because he's a legend and he's the best player on the team, but he actually wanted the game to kind of work.
2:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted the game, it balances out.
2:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not critical of him, but
2:55
[SPEAKER_01]: In that position, you can't you can't forget the ball on the three never hold on a punt or the one time they actually got a punt return for positive yardage they held nothing was good long snap or had a bad play for a team that almost won a national title because of their special teams last year.
3:16
[SPEAKER_01]: to be what this team has become on special teams this year.
3:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the contrast and not a lot has changed.
3:23
[SPEAKER_01]: The kickers the same, the punter changed.
3:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They saw some of the guys that on the punt block team, they didn't block any kicks this year.
3:34
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first time a long time I went to an Indiana game and they didn't block a punt.
3:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They also had the running into the kicker, which probably wasn't actually the right call.
3:45
[SPEAKER_01]: but it wasn't the right call, not for the reason P.J.
3:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Flick thought it was not the right call.
3:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It actually shouldn't have been called, but according to an NFL referee that chimed in after the game.
3:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It was textbook, the Minnesota scored 10 of their points directly off of the special teams.
4:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I came that went to overtime and you needed a 60 yard field gold win,
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[SPEAKER_01]: or not to win the tie, you only give up 16.
4:17
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 of them can treat these trace back directly to your special teams unit.
4:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only way Minnesota could keep that game and the position where it was and Indiana did everything they could to accommodate.
4:31
[SPEAKER_02]: The the trick play for Minnesota, the flea flicker, you could see come in the entire way on the first reverse You saw their reverse in this back, cheers the quarterback got the ball back.
4:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw the receiver wide open.
4:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's a touchdown.
4:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That was brutal.
4:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew Indiana was in trouble.
4:47
[SPEAKER_02]: The first block field goal in the first half of Hutton, man.
4:51
[SPEAKER_02]: If they can't even get that off without it being blocked, it could be a long day on special.
4:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was the, well, that was the what 50 was that the 52 yarder.
5:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you trying a 52-yarder with a kicker who's leg is doesn't have a leg pass 45.
5:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to kick the ball low to try to compensate the distance.
5:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That was probably a coaching decision.
5:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you put them in a position where they have to drive the field.
5:17
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't going to do it.
5:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They simply weren't.
5:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They're 10 first.
5:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They're 10 first.
5:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They're 10 first.
5:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They're in the game.
5:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Minnesota's often doesn't built to just drive down the field that way.
5:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
5:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here.
5:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, listen, this team's eight and one, they know body needs a by week more than this team.
5:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the team, the team needs it.
5:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the coaches need it.
5:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fans need it.
5:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be real fast for weeks.
5:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
5:46
[SPEAKER_01]: These last four weeks of white knuckle football have snapped a few people's heads on the Twitter verse.
5:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're eight and one right now.
5:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still heavily
6:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They figure out ways to win games where we don't understand how, but man, they looked like a team that was just like, get us to our buy.
6:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know we said that last year after the Wisconsin game, but that was different because the game was never really in jeopardy ever.
6:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I took the one play that almost put me in the hospital.
6:25
[SPEAKER_02]: but it was very frustrating from the standpoint that Indiana was better than this team Josh Hoover, even though not being a hundred percent, I thought was the better quarterback going in than Minnesota's Drake Lindsey.
6:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's run game was better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They almost 400 yards of offense.
6:39
[SPEAKER_02]: and still needed over time to win and still couldn't put together a drive down the field to go down it, but put it in the end zone.
6:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It was statistically great.
6:47
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of those games where you're like, they had zero business losing this game.
6:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Statistically, it was 10 first downs.
6:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think 21 for Indiana.
6:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 150 passing yards for Northwestern to over 200 for Indiana rushing Indiana had 144 yards on the ground.
7:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota had what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 50?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of those came on two runs for the time of possession, they held Minnesota to three for 15 on third down.
7:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I think Indiana was about two for 12 on third down.
7:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So they've been horrible on third down.
7:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been horrible on third down all year.
7:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The rhythm has just not been able to get there with the offense, but statistically they just they dominated this game and but whatever they had to do to make this dramatic and sick joked about that after the game, but he said we did everything we could have a bad loss and they still come out with a win.
7:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You said earlier this week and I reluctantly kind of agreed with it to be honest
7:51
[SPEAKER_02]: is your mind changed after the second half in any of the overtime.
7:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this story a lot in college football through the years where a team switches up the quarterback and heck, I talked about it in the Rose Bowl last year.
8:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I was more worried about Alabama when we knocked Tyson's and out of the game, and they threw in a guy that they had no film on.
8:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen that story play out before and granted great.
8:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to take anything away from, but as a long-term solution, I don't know that he's the guy.
8:24
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a veteran quarterback.
8:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He's what, 70 years at this point.
8:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Old Dominion, he wasn't a star at Old Dominion.
8:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He only completed like 55% of his passes at Old Dominion.
8:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He did what he needed to do.
8:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a little bit more mobility.
8:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He threw some beautiful balls in that game.
8:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The one to becker in overtime was perfect.
8:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The one to becker to set up the long field goal was perfect.
8:55
[SPEAKER_01]: He hit one to Nick Marsh that I think Nick Marsh was smiled after because he's like, I didn't have to go back and reach back for that ball.
9:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It came in stride.
9:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So he did great.
9:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think once teams start getting film on guys and they're spending their week prepping for a guy,
9:16
[SPEAKER_01]: replicate that performance of 14 that's preparing for him and not him being thrown into the fire at halftime right in the middle of a game.
9:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the only thing that was that Andy and I may not have a choice but to rock with him for maybe the the USC game or beyond.
9:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So not a higher percent sure on where Josh Hoover is because I think a part of it was
9:45
[SPEAKER_02]: in the quarterback game yesterday.
9:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a part of it was the Hoover just what feeling a hundred percent.
9:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a combination of both.
9:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And when that's happening and you're saying like, okay, like last week, it was like, okay, he was we know he was banged up whatever.
10:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he comes out this week and is consistently overthrown passes, not making the
10:11
[SPEAKER_02]: in the first half, but he decided to throw it into coverage in the back of the end zone and threw it away.
10:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And he could add a walk in touchdown if he could have kept the ball and just tucked it at least got in the first down.
10:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just completely neglected to do that.
10:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's it's very, it's very, it's very frustrating when you see that, especially out of a guy that earlier in the season looked really, really good.
10:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like it's just all right, he's just picking up where Mendoza left off.
10:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is
10:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if it's the injury, or if he's playing scared or what, but it's perplexing to see kind of the regrets he's shown as the years gone on.
10:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's too fold.
10:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think he's more injured than we know about.
10:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a coaching staff that proves with Curtis Rourke.
10:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably not going to get the whole truth, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
11:03
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to
11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: injuries.
11:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Roark played an entire year with a torn ACL and none of us knew that until well after the season.
11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was clearly injured in the Ohio State game.
11:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's an AC joint of something with the labron, a bruised rotator cuff.
11:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it could be, this is just pure spitballing.
11:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I know nothing, but I think he's more banged up than we realize.
11:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also think in his head, he's pressing so much because he knows he's injured.
11:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows he's not making plays.
11:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows he's not living up to the standard that the coaching staff has set for that position.
11:46
[SPEAKER_01]: they let their they let their opinions be known yesterday they weren't saying who they were booing and it's tough to watch a kid going through it now can he get can he get back who he's got a week to rest we don't know what they'll do after the buy they're going to have to be much much better on offense after the buy because of who they're playing.
12:08
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... we don't know maybe he's done for the year maybe they're going to just say that look he's hurt he can't come back right in with right in with grant the rest of the way or maybe he rest up he gets better he gets away from it all for a week and he comes back in a better and a better place so uh... it's tough to tell right now but the kid is clearly not himself and and and i texted you during the game he got bench on his tail day
12:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bad beat right there.
12:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
12:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tough, man.
12:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You get your Hoover talent to stay in.
12:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets benched on his towel day.
12:53
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13:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And you sent that, and I didn't, I went really thinking about that, and after the 60-yard field goal, I took the towel, and I threw it across the aisle into the next row, guy picked up, he goes, you guys, you dropped your towel.
13:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I don't want it, I said keep it, I don't want it, and he's like trying to give it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He took it and put it in his pocket.
13:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they end up throwing the path to Becker and the guy takes the towel back out and goes, do you want to say, no, put it back in your pocket, put it back in your pocket.
13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want it.
13:39
[SPEAKER_02]: They drill the 60 harder.
13:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to give me the towel back.
13:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, dude, I don't want this towel.
13:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, they just kicked a 60 harder.
13:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the momentum's just because you put it in your pocket.
13:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm superstitious, you know, the two 80 year old men sit next to us, left one of them literally fell on me after the, after the Minnesota's 50 yarder, I had to pick him up, that no joke.
14:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Guy fell on me after the 60 yarder, I picked him up.
14:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, I rarely even any ends got no chance.
14:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They walked away and then this, and that's the great come back.
14:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take it and if we're going to share, if we're going to share, painful fan stories, can I interject for a moment?
14:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I have one, I was going to tell at one point today, and this seems like the perfect time, like I'm on section 30.
14:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm back row.
14:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I needed sherpas to get to my seat before it was all said and done.
14:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, man, I climbed Everest yesterday, but, well, you said you died on the way to your seat.
14:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I did it.
14:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause then I saw on Twitter, someone tweeted and said, did a fan just die?
14:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a Cincinnati game, but, no, there was a family sitting next to me.
14:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice people didn't, you know, one of them noxious at all had a good section, but Minnesota hits the 60 yard or the 40 yard or to go ahead with the touchdown.
15:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's third little boy can't be older than six, just starts balling.
15:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Just loses it.
15:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, is it crying just hysterically and like mom and dad or out of your shot?
15:21
[SPEAKER_01]: and don't really know what's going on in the dad and me is sitting there like on angry as a fan because my team just gave up a 40 art touchdown and a ridiculous trick play.
15:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got this kid just wailing next to me when I'm like, dude, dude, dude, I need to comfort this kid.
15:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And this isn't fun, right?
15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've never seen a kid react like that.
15:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And thankfully the mom finally came over, but I was just like,
15:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that kid is, he is into it.
15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the, the, the wailing six year old next to me was one of the more uncomfortable moments I've ever had at a sporting event.
16:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been, I've been next to some brutal fans the Western Kentucky game was awful.
16:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Similar situation.
16:09
[SPEAKER_02]: There was like a family next to us to whatever and like,
16:12
[SPEAKER_02]: The kids were just like running up and down the bleachers during the game.
16:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It was brutal.
16:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't bring your kids to a game if they're not going to be into it.
16:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
16:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a family of four in front of us that left like you like your guys after the 60 yarder and they didn't come back.
16:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope they got to their car to catch the end of it because they messed out.
16:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why you would leave.
16:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming, I hope you didn't leave, right?
16:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not, no, I was there.
16:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, good, good.
16:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, what was your reaction to 60 art or winning the I knew Minnesota was setting it up for it and I thought that their kicker was good for it because I did and I thought there's no way they're making this I thought it was a stretch.
16:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought they were coming out to P on it.
17:02
[SPEAKER_01]: They watch I want his previous field goal I think was 52 53 as a he had plenty of leg on that he's he's and when Indiana got them into like third and.
17:12
[SPEAKER_01]: 17 or whatever it was on the on the final play before that kick So they need to do what they can to not give up any yards here because flex setting up for A 60 yard or in sick was letting them melt the clock away, which is another topic.
17:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll get into here in a moment I was like that this kid's good for 60 And he there was no doubt like when it left it was like yeah, that kicks good
17:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good and he had plenty of leg on it.
17:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was good.
17:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, Minnesota, we knew they had great special tunes that that guy, that guy earned his, uh, like I earned his scholarship for certain this week.
17:54
[SPEAKER_02]: My reaction to it was the fact of I turned to, I turned to the, to the girl with me and I said, I go, if he hits this, we're going to lose on a fixed VR field goal.
18:04
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be painful.
18:07
[SPEAKER_02]: and he absolutely drilled it.
18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he did.
18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He had yards to spare on it.
18:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the old man fell on me and had to pick him up.
18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get the ball back and just say, well, we ought to stay just endure it, tough it out.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not leaving.
18:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You never know.
18:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the throw to backer is I thought I got out of bounds in time.
18:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he, I guess the clock does it stop.
18:36
[SPEAKER_02]: The clock continues to run.
18:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They ran another play in between there, which was kind of stupid before calling a timeout.
18:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anybody realized that the clock was restarting.
18:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I think everybody thought he was out of bounds.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the officials didn't communicate.
18:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But once the clock started running, you can call a timeout then.
18:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Immediately.
18:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, wait, the clock's moving.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We've gone from 13 seconds to 11.
19:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Time out.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You could call the time out there.
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You had to.
19:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't take them to heaven.
19:11
[SPEAKER_02]: The 60 art or the patty mac and tear hit.
19:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew it was good when it left us foot.
19:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's thin as he kicked out.
19:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that's in.
19:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And he drilled that thing to go over time.
19:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just everybody around me's losing their mind.
19:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just I just stood there.
19:27
[SPEAKER_02]: No reaction because I'm like, oh my gosh, we got to go win this in over time now.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And then going over time, the first throw of overtime, same thing.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: As soon as it left his hands, I knew he was catching that.
19:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw he had Becker on a one on one.
19:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, he's catching that thing.
19:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I put my hands up in the air for a touchdown when I saw the ball in the air.
19:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's just how wide, you weren't wide open, but that's how confident I was he was gonna be able to make the throw.
19:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, he is so damn good.
19:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Charlie Bakker, man, just get him off punt returns and we've got the perfect call.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm all about, Luke.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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20:31
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I thought, I agree with you, Mike.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that Minnesota Kicker was gonna make that.
20:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He is so good.
20:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought, no way.
20:40
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, no way they're getting a feelable range.
20:43
[SPEAKER_00]: The second of all, I mean, with the way they move balled it.
20:45
[SPEAKER_00]: The second of all, no way is making a 60-yarder.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: No way is making a mess, man.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: The 60-yarder that patty market to your mate and Mike, you can attest to this because you were also there.
20:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was the loudest I've ever heard that stadium.
21:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the de Angelot ponds blocked punt for a touchdown was the loudest I've ever heard that.
21:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the 60-yard or he drilled.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, it was, it was, because it was just, I think nobody thought it, he was going to make it.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the, that's the thing about it is nobody, there were 60,000 people and not maybe Mike Kadek in the front row from his seats was the only person there who thought this thing's going in.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we haven't seen much of Patty back at here this year.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: when we have seen him, he's missed a couple.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I wasn't confident at all.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we know he's the long distance guy, but even he said after the game, the longest he's ever practiced in practice is 58.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never gone from 60 in a practice setting.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And man, he went out there and it was, I mean, just blasted it.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: A dead center, perfect.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people said it was good from 70.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that, but that's a stretch.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe 62, but it dude, whatever, it the only game in the history of college football that had two 60 yard field goals in the last 20 seconds of the game was the first game in the history of the sport that that happened.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: That's never happened the NFL, I don't think.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hey, man, you don't need
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know, like maybe Edinburgh and Indian Creek down, you know, Central Indiana, maybe they went and blasted a couple 65 yarders.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know about I doubt they added burgers ever kicked a field goal.
22:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe the state records 54 yards recorded.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think there was a kick from Northwood that set the record.
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: That's now the kicker at North Texas hit one from like 55 a few years ago.
23:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know though.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to talk about this defense?
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was pretty phenomenal, I thought.
23:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Other than the task given up for a touchdown, it was pretty phenomenal.
23:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They continue to make the plays they need to make, including my guy Toby Oston, saw me who made the game winning sack.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is hands down and I thought last year it was going to be tough to say this, but this has been the best Indiana defense I would I've ever seen Following the in the years of following this program enough.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen some good players.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but we haven't seen a unit like this.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, every day Harris got shaken up late on a little concern there because his plate.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Once he came back, the secondary really seemed to take off.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he comes back after the buy yesterday played with that they let yesterday without realize a hearty he went down in warmups heard his back and pregame warmups, but yeah screw freshman Jacob Savage comes in and he balls out man and he he's going to be a stud for them.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have mercy.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Greg I think you were watching the game.
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe you've been answered.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I never saw a replay of his interception.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it truly over one that should have been overturned?
24:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
24:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I mean, they didn't show a replay in the stadium, so I thought, well, maybe it was just a no doubt or it looked, it was close, but the ball definitely hit the ground.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I was going to say, from where I was sitting, it looked like a picture perfect play, but obviously, one thing I don't like is I don't get to hear what they're talking about on the chas pressed in overturn, I thought you had that bullet proof evidence to overturn something.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they didn't, they did not.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That officiating crew I didn't realize was the Western Michigan Michigan crew, who also had to issue a policy, who also had to issue an apology for another game.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a Nebraska game later in the year.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That hasn't been one of the big tens best units.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just put it that way.
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they might, we may need to make it like the master something.
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: are like conference that they should be doing games in the middle of the week on CBS sports that work.
25:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They can do any in Creek and Edinburgh going to Friday night sometimes.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can.
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It was brutal.
25:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They were even plays right by Indiana break off right even Minnesota.
25:29
[SPEAKER_02]: They break off around.
25:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like.
25:31
[SPEAKER_02]: at the bad spot or that's a generous spot, I feel like, you know, where they spot the ball at, and I don't know, I don't know if you even picked up on that.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there was a Minnesota run.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of their best runs of the day where I thought he was down and maybe he stepped out.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, one thing I just don't like about being there is you don't.
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You can only see what you can see.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought he was down at like the 34 and I look up and they're back at the 45.
25:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, did he step out or what happened there?
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that play.
26:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the same thing.
26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, well, he must have stepped out way back there.
26:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess I guess he did.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: They kept going.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was, the officials weren't great, but I mean, I feel like we don't ever rail on officials.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: but yesterday was just not what you're used to.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you this.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It's talking about this with my dad here is that I don't think Kurt said that he really likes PJ Fleck.
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Does anybody?
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: My question is does anybody?
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: All of the antics.
26:42
[SPEAKER_02]: All of the antics.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: like like when AJ Harris got her and PJ Fleck comes running over and gets down on him and it's like didn't wave in the training staff over for Indiana to come check on him like it was a demar ham one situation like the dude died on the field or whatever just a turd.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a song went down in the fourth quarter, PJ.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to tell you.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm not a fan of the crowd surfing in the locker room after games.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I was dreading that video coming out because it was going to be all over it and crowd surfing in the locker room if they won yesterday and it was just going to suck and it it was going to come back to buy because I made a post on my Instagram story a few weeks ago going to see do this after every game and it's a video and crowd surfing in the locker room.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we got a sneak preview of how bad it's going to be when Indiana does lose a game because so many people thought Minnesota won yesterday and went to Twitter to be like, uh huh, look at Indiana can't beat freaking Minnesota.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I look at this 60 yarder to take down the fraud of a program like we got a sneak preview of what it's going to be like when they do actually lose a game to a team.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That they maybe shouldn't have lost to or you know the Ohio State game was so close and the teams were so evenly matched in Ohio State was actually right so you couldn't really.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can really pile on them for that game, especially since they lost it by like I'm meta-tarsal, but the way the reactions were starting to flow out and then it's like, everybody was just like, and then what happened?
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what?
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Bama fans are really having a hard time with this.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: If I was just a neutral college football fan, Watson this game, this really constituted and Charles Davis, I watched this segment with him.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: He was the analyst yesterday on TV with Brad and Esler.
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched this segment with him where he said, you know, you're not going to take this game, put this in the Smith Sonyan for like greatest college football games played, but it was one of the greatest endings I think ever.
28:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe not ever, but this ever, that was it.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most incredible endings to a game I've ever seen.
29:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It was amazing.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We were there for it.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was historic.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: My friend Greg, who Graham Matt yesterday, him and I mutually agreed were never going to another Indiana event ever again.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the last three,
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We attended one was Ron Harper Jr's shot again for Rutgers at Assembly Hall.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember last year's Northwestern game at Assembly Hall, and yesterday when we thought they lost on a 60-yard field, I was like, dude, I'm never going to another event in Bloomington with you.
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we didn't really discuss if that's off the table afterwards, but
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, the three losses that we've sat for almost losses that we've sat for.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think I need to go anywhere with that dude for a while.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The crowd yesterday, like there were a lot of people.
30:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming it was a sellout.
30:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It had to be a sellout.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a sellout.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: The top, the top corner filled in a little bit after kickoff.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was definitely a sellout.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: People left it half done.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They did.
30:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But it wasn't ridiculous.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was like, okay.
30:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It was still a packed house, even that people left out.
30:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say this, like, the lines for the bathroom or confession stands.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't feel like we're ridiculous.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't buy anything at the stadium.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably first time all here I've done that.
30:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been any money inside Memorial Stadium, yesterday.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: If you thought I got to my seat once yesterday, it was gonna go back down to buy a bottle of water.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't made it, did you?
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good man.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There's my butt cheeks.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a dent in those bleachers for my big old cheeks, man.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're in row 70, seat 13 next week, it's gonna be a bumpy ride, because there's an intention out there, man.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just glad there was the uncoordinated I even caught me down.
31:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I just got to turn the court out.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: There's Michael's hair right there.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't do that.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: This was on guard there.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You texted to each other.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You were both there and you met up.
31:25
[SPEAKER_02]: It was uncordinated.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Grant called me out for having a little sweating a little bit on the walk to the stadium.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the weather was perfect.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The weather was perfect.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The weather was perfect, man.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I will not park again where I parked yesterday.
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just put it that way.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: The blue house on the corner was the landbird.
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Always fun with Grant and Mike.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much Grant and Mike.
31:58
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