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DONKEY: Rolling Stone Magazine Co-Founder Says Black & Female Musicians Aren’t ‘Articulate’ Enough · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Yes, donkey today for Monday, September eighteenth, Oh Monday, it
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  Speaker 1: goes the Yon Winner. Jan is the co founder Rolling
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  Speaker 1: Stone magazine and he's seventy seven years old. Okay, when
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  Speaker 1: you're seventy seven, you have the license to say whatever
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  Speaker 1: But Jan has been removed from the Rock and Roll
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Foundations board after some criticism he got
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  Speaker 1: for comments he made in the New York Times interview.
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  Speaker 1: See Yan has a book coming out called The Masters,
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  Speaker 1: which features interviews he conducted with artists such as John Lennon,
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  Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, Mick Jagger, just to name a few, and
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  Speaker 1: some other people while at the Helm of Rolling Stone Magazine.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's seven interviews all together, all white males,
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  Speaker 1: and he spoke about his decision to not include interviews
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  Speaker 1: with women and black artists to needless to say, the
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  Speaker 1: conversation didn't go well. Let's go to NBC News for
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  Speaker 1: your port police.
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  Speaker 2: Rolling Stone Magazine co founder Yon Winner explains why he
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  Speaker 2: only included white men in his new book The Masters.
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  Speaker 1: Insofar as women, I mean, there were just none of
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  Speaker 1: them were as articulate enough on this intellectual level.
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  Speaker 2: Oh stop it, you're telling you Jonay Mitchell is not
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  Speaker 2: articulate enough. It's not that they're not creative geniuses.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that they're inarticulate.
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  Speaker 2: Although you go to have a deep conversation with Gray
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  Speaker 2: Slick or Janis, please be my guest. Those comments, published
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  Speaker 2: Friday from an interview with New York Times magazine, now
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  Speaker 2: criticized as sexist and racist, you think the foundation Winner
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  Speaker 2: helped create. Issuing a terse statement Saturday saying Jan Rinter
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  Speaker 2: has been removed from the board of directors of the
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  Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation overnight, Winner releasing
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  Speaker 2: an apology. In my interview with The New York Times,
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  Speaker 2: I made comments that diminished the contributions, genius and impact
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  Speaker 2: of black and women artists, and I apologize wholeheartedly for
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  Speaker 2: those remarks.
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  Speaker 1: Jon said that black and women artists weren't articulate enough
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  Speaker 1: on an intellectual level to be interviewed for his book
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  Speaker 1: The Master stat Irony in this statement is Yon isn't
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  Speaker 1: smart enough to not say this out loud. Okay, if
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  Speaker 1: you feel that way, fine, you can't change it was
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  Speaker 1: in a person's heart. But to speak this out loud, now, why?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Fun fact, Tina Turner, black woman with the
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  Speaker 1: second person ever on the cover of Rolling Stone, clearly
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  Speaker 1: first woman, clearly, first black person on the second of
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  Speaker 1: an issue of Rolling Stone Magazine, November twenty fifth, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty seven. John Lennon was the first. Now I know
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  Speaker 1: Tina Turner is no longer with us, but I'm making
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  Speaker 1: that point to say, clearly Yon understands the value of
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  Speaker 1: black people and women and music. He just doesn't believe
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  Speaker 1: intellectually we are capable of having a conversation about said music.
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  Speaker 1: This is like racism one on one, Okay. The stereotype
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  Speaker 1: of the dumb black right, all these false presumptions and
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  Speaker 1: biases for years trying to prove that black people are
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  Speaker 1: biologically and intellectually inferior to white people, and same with women.
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  Speaker 1: You know, good old fashioned sexism wants women to believe
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  Speaker 1: that they are dumbed in men. That's what's so stupid
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  Speaker 1: about these comments Yon made. Not only are they rooted
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  Speaker 1: in foolishness that can be easily debunked. He doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: have an intellectual argument as to why he didn't put
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  Speaker 1: black people in women in his book. Okay. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: he said, for public relations sake, maybe I should have
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  Speaker 1: gone and found one black and one woman artist to
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  Speaker 1: include here that didn't measure up to that same historical standard,
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  Speaker 1: just to avert this kind of criticism. That's not an
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  Speaker 1: intellectual argument at all. It's just a racist and sexist one. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I need Yon to articulate to me, why do you
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  Speaker 1: feel a woman and black people didn't deserve to be
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  Speaker 1: in this book called Damasters. Stevie Wonder not a master
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  Speaker 1: of his craft. Okay, if you ask me, Stevie Wonder
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  Speaker 1: or run circles around everybody you got featured in this book.
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  Speaker 1: There is no intellectual reason as to why Joni Mitchell
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be interviewed either, We probably could listen to both
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  Speaker 1: of them Watx poetic about music for days. But Yon
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  Speaker 1: can't because he already has preconceived prejudices about black people
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  Speaker 1: and women. Okay, to Yon, Stevie Wonder and other black
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  Speaker 1: people sound like this one.
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  Speaker 2: They talks, I am but an adult, and but these
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  Speaker 2: but boys are with me.
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  Speaker 1: To Yan Joni Mitchell, and women sound like this when
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  Speaker 1: they talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, eat his seds his.
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  Speaker 1: Well, jan to us, you sound like this. That's right.
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