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The Kenny Report | 27 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. Hold on to your seats. The
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  Speaker 3: official start of the election campaign could be as soon
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  Speaker 3: as tomorrow morning, as Peter Dutton prepares to outline his
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  Speaker 3: alternative budget tonight. The Coalition's petrol tax giveaway, Trump's Labour's
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  Speaker 3: distant tax cut.
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  Speaker 4: But where's the serious economic strategy?
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  Speaker 3: Teals MPs in strife as polling shows the Coalition could
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  Speaker 3: reclaim some of its prized seats, and as Palestinians in
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  Speaker 3: Gaza continue to bravely stand up against humas a Queensland
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  Speaker 3: musician still blames it all on Israel, the National's leader
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  Speaker 3: David little Proud will join me, as will former Foreign
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  Speaker 3: Minister Alexander Downer and the former Governor General and Defense
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  Speaker 3: Force Chief Sir Peter Cosgrove, plus Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson.
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  Speaker 3: To wrap it all up, let's get cracking. So let's
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  Speaker 3: get this straight. The federal budget is a mess. Too
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  Speaker 3: much spending, too much debt. We're living beyond our means,
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  Speaker 3: with deficits stretching out as far as the eye can see.
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  Speaker 3: But in this crazy week combining Budget Week with the
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  Speaker 3: first days of an election campaign, we are being offered
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  Speaker 3: two different versions of budget relief. Labour's tax cut, unveiled yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: gives most taxpayers an extra five dollars a week. They's
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  Speaker 3: less than a dollar a day. And what's worse, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't start for more than a year. It starts in
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  Speaker 3: fifteen months time. So apparently they reckon they're taxing us
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  Speaker 3: too much now, but they'll keep doing that for more
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  Speaker 3: than another year. Then let us keep another five dollars
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  Speaker 3: a week of our money after that great such bold
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  Speaker 3: economic reform. The Coalition opposes this tax cut. They call
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  Speaker 3: it a hoax. In fact, they reckon they'll get rid
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  Speaker 3: of it, but they're promising to immediately have fuel excise
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  Speaker 3: for a year. In other words, if the Coalition wins
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  Speaker 3: the election, most of us will save twenty or thirty
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  Speaker 3: dollars a week off our petrol bills. Peter Dutton reckons
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  Speaker 3: that will help more people, more substantially and more immediately.
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  Speaker 5: It's an either or option which can't pretend that we've
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  Speaker 5: got endless amounts of money. And we took a decision
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  Speaker 5: that giving the fuel tax cut now to family straight
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  Speaker 5: away is a better option than providing seventy cents a
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  Speaker 5: day in fifteen months time.
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  Speaker 3: Funnily enough, this was exactly the tax cut that Pauline
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  Speaker 3: Hanson suggested on this program last night when she explained
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  Speaker 3: why it.
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  Speaker 4: Delivers better cost of living relief.
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  Speaker 6: What would have been more effective is to bring out
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  Speaker 6: our fuel excise tax by cutting twenty six and a
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  Speaker 6: half cents a lead for a year.
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  Speaker 7: That would have actually.
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  Speaker 6: Assisted all Australians, not just those that are paying tax,
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  Speaker 6: but right from pensions, people who aren't working. Not everyone
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  Speaker 6: pays taxes in the country, but fuel excise tax cut
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  Speaker 6: would have benefit most a strands.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously the Coalition agrees with that, but the
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  Speaker 3: Labor government seems to think it's on a winner.
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  Speaker 8: This is a proper brain explosion from the Coalition. This
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  Speaker 8: is a proper brain snap. It beggars belief that when
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  Speaker 8: Australians are under cost of living pressure, their main policy
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  Speaker 8: is to increase income taxes on every Australian taxpayer.
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  Speaker 3: Now, this is a pretty desperate argument given that Labor
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  Speaker 3: isn't delivering these tax cuts until July twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 3: and even then they amount to just seventy cents a day.
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  Speaker 3: Say what you will about the Coalition's temporary petrol tax cut.
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  Speaker 3: It dwarfs Labour's tiny and delayed tax cuts. And it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't that long ago that Jim Chalmers was actually supporting
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  Speaker 3: the petrol excise cuts delivered by Scott Morrison's coalition government.
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  Speaker 9: So the twenty two cents a leader fuel excise cut.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's bad policy, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 8: I don't think it's bad policy to support people through
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  Speaker 8: difficult times. You know, the fact that petrol prices have
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  Speaker 8: been through the roof has been a break on the
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  Speaker 8: economy and it's made it harder for families who are
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  Speaker 8: already dealing with real wages going backwards. You know, one
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  Speaker 8: of the defining features of this government for almost ten
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  Speaker 8: years now is stagnant wages, families finding it harder to
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  Speaker 8: make ends meet. We've got a responsibility to do the
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  Speaker 8: right thing by that.
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  Speaker 4: Yees.
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  Speaker 3: So he was in favor of the petrol tax cut
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  Speaker 3: back then, but he's against it now. But this sort
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  Speaker 3: of political tit for tat really just demonstrates how pathetic
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  Speaker 3: the economic debate has become. Two different election giveaways. Where
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  Speaker 3: is the serious reform? Of course, we wait to see
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  Speaker 3: what else Peter Dutton unveils tonight in his budget in
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  Speaker 3: reply speech, whether or not he reveals something more substantial,
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  Speaker 3: some significant taxation reform or something to fix our energy mess.
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  Speaker 3: Speculation continues that Anthony Albanezi will call the election tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: for May the third, when the orthodox approach would be
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  Speaker 3: to call it on Sunday. In fact, the Public Service
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  Speaker 3: is getting so twitchy that it announced it was going
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  Speaker 3: into caretaker mode for the election today before.
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  Speaker 4: Realizing it had jumped the gun and deleting the tweet.
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  Speaker 3: If Albuneasy does call the election tomorrow, it'll mean that
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  Speaker 3: Labor is worried about the coalition's alternative economic plan. It'll
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  Speaker 3: mean that Labor is keen to drown out Dutton's economic message.
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  Speaker 10: Labor is a party of lower taxes.
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  Speaker 2: The Liberals don your burning less and keeping lass.
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  Speaker 10: And you know you hit a nerd, mister Samaka, you
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  Speaker 10: know you hit a nerdy?
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  Speaker 4: How loudly they shout, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The louder they shout, maybe the less voters listen to them.
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  Speaker 3: The country is in serious economic strife.
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  Speaker 4: We need siri as plans to get back.
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  Speaker 3: On track, and just now, right at this moment, our
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  Speaker 3: political debate seems pretty shallow, pretty desultry. Let's hope Peter
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  Speaker 3: Dutton can turn that around in just over two hours
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  Speaker 3: from now. If the Coalition are going to win government,
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  Speaker 3: not only do they need to take seats back from Labor,
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  Speaker 3: but they need to reclaim some of the Till seats too,
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  Speaker 3: and as you know, I've always thought that could be
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  Speaker 3: on the card. Some will be easier than others, of course,
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  Speaker 3: but all the tials have their vulnerabilities. For instance, Allegora
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  Speaker 3: Spender in Wentworth is considered relatively secure because she's not
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  Speaker 3: quite as loopy left wing as the others, except on
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  Speaker 3: her crazy climate claims. But her seat does have a
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  Speaker 3: large Jewish population. And last year's Spender joined the other
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  Speaker 3: tials in demanding that the government provide funding for UNRA,
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  Speaker 3: the United Nations aid agency in Gaza. Spender and the
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  Speaker 3: other tials wanted funding restored to UNRA, even though at
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  Speaker 3: least a dozen of its staff joined with Hummas to
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  Speaker 3: commit the October the seventh atrocities. UNRAS staff were involved
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  Speaker 3: in that slaughter and the hostage taking, Yet Spender wanted
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  Speaker 3: our taxpayers' dollars going there.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone who understands.
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  Speaker 3: These issues and supports Israel will be very disturbed by this,
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  Speaker 3: so keep an eye on Spender and Wentworth during the election.
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  Speaker 3: But two TiAl seats in Melbourne look especially vulnerable. Zoey
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  Speaker 3: Daniels in Goldstein and Monique Ryan and Kuyong are very
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  Speaker 3: much on the green left fringe of a range of issues,
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  Speaker 3: and they've been caught out saying one thing and doing
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  Speaker 3: another from time to time.
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  Speaker 4: New polling in both those.
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  Speaker 3: Seats shows the tills are in real strife. Daniels is
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  Speaker 3: trailing a long way behind the former Liberal member Tim
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  Speaker 3: Wilson who's trying to win the seat back, and in
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  Speaker 3: Kung Monique Ryan is only narrowly ahead of the Liberal
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  Speaker 3: candidate Emilia Hamer.
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  Speaker 4: It's really neck and neck.
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  Speaker 3: And this polling was conducted a fortnight ago and Ryan
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  Speaker 3: has had a bad time of it since then. Her husband,
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  Speaker 3: Peter Jordan, you'll remember, was filmed at rooting and.
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  Speaker 4: Walking off with a Liberal campaign poster.
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  Speaker 3: Are you, moniqu Ryan support of ripping down people's signs?
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  Speaker 9: Are you?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing?
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  Speaker 4: It belongs to me.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you can take it off the property, but it
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  Speaker 5: belongs to me if it goes back up.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be taken down again.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, Monique, Ryan, There you go, Community Values Now.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan and Ryan issued a statement apparently apologizing for this episode,
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  Speaker 3: but Ryan refused to talk about it.
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  Speaker 11: Can I ask you what do you think of your
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  Speaker 11: husband's decision to remove the liberal candidate signing cou Young?
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  Speaker 12: If I don't have a comment for you of comment
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  Speaker 12: on that matter already, thank you?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that was an appropriate thing to do?
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  Speaker 12: Could you please get your cameras away from me?
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  Speaker 10: Do you think it was an appropriate thing to do
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  Speaker 10: for him to remove that sign.
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  Speaker 4: Of common on the melting on?
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  Speaker 1: What is your message?
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  Speaker 4: Who message is? Can you please keep those cameras away
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  Speaker 4: from me? Now?
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  Speaker 3: There is hypocritical stuff given that Ryan claims the high
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  Speaker 3: moral ground on political integrity, talking about openness and accountability.
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  Speaker 12: As your member for Keon, I will act with integrity
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  Speaker 12: and honesty, and I will provide leadership and vision and
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  Speaker 12: I stand for integrity, decency, and honesty. Democracy is under
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  Speaker 12: threat globally and what we acknowledge is a post truth
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  Speaker 12: world speaker, we can combat cynicism and disbelief only by
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  Speaker 12: committing to openness.
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  Speaker 3: How can you claim to be improving standards. When your
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  Speaker 3: husband is ripping off election posters, refusing to declare who
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  Speaker 3: he is, and you won't even answer questions about the
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  Speaker 3: whole episode. This is all very damaging for Ryan Sally
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  Speaker 3: when we all know she's never been shy about lecturing others.
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  Speaker 4: Put your masks on, put your masks on, put your
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  Speaker 4: masks on. Better find myself a mask.
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  Speaker 3: It got even worse though, for the TLMP today, with
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  Speaker 3: the leaking of a training video for her campaign team
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  Speaker 3: demanding that volunteers call her doctor Monique Ryan.
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  Speaker 13: It's really really important to use the term doctor Monique Ryan.
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  Speaker 13: We want people to know that she's a doctor, and
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  Speaker 13: Monique Ryan is the way that her name appears on
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  Speaker 13: a ballot paper, so that's really really important. She used
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  Speaker 13: doctor Monique Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: How embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: Don't forget this is the same doctor Monique Ryan who's
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  Speaker 3: former chief of staff. Sally Rugg won a one hundred
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars settlement More of Your Money after complaining she'd
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  Speaker 3: been forced to work unreasonable hours by Ryan, who Rugg
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  Speaker 3: said expressed a desire to be prime minister. Now there's
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  Speaker 3: not much chance Thatnique will ever be prime minister. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: she's struggling to hold on to her seat. Perhaps they
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  Speaker 3: should add a line to that training video telling volunteers
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  Speaker 3: not to steal the opponent's election posters.
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  Speaker 4: That might be just what the doctor ordered.
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  Speaker 3: Those protests by Palestinians in Gaza against Hummas are continuing.
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  Speaker 3: People are bravely marching in the streets, chanting against Humas,
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  Speaker 3: calling out Hummas as terrorists and pleading with them to
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  Speaker 3: hand the hostages back to Israel and surrender in order
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  Speaker 3: to deliver peace. This is a significant backlash against Hummas
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  Speaker 3: hell even the ABC has started to report it.
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  Speaker 14: This is the second day in a row people in
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  Speaker 14: northern Gaza have protested against the militant group Hummas. The
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  Speaker 14: demonstrators chanted Hummas must get out. They want the group
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  Speaker 14: to release the hostages, surrender and leave the Gaza Strip
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  Speaker 14: to no longer be the government in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: Now the eyes of the world are on this, and
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  Speaker 3: so far it appears that Humas has not hit back,
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  Speaker 3: it's not cracked down on the protesters.
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  Speaker 11: And now we wait to see how much this protest
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  Speaker 11: movement is a reflection of why.
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  Speaker 15: Did this content in the Gaza Strip and whether it
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  Speaker 15: may spread.
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  Speaker 3: What much of the media have failed to report in
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  Speaker 3: recent days since Israel resumed its attacks on Hummas is
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  Speaker 3: how successful the Israelis have been.
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  Speaker 4: As usual, much of the media.
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  Speaker 3: Coverage has suggested that Israel has been deliberately killing civilians
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  Speaker 3: and targeting hospitals, or the usual propaganda thrown against the
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  Speaker 3: Israeli defense forces.
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  Speaker 4: The reality is that Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Has been systematically taking out Humas' leaders. As soon as
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  Speaker 3: the terrorist group replaces its leaders, the IDF takes them out.
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  Speaker 3: And it's these strikes taking out Gaza's terrorist overlords that's
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  Speaker 3: created the opportunity for civilians to show their descent.
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  Speaker 14: It's possible Hamas can't do anything about these protests at
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  Speaker 14: the moment because if it exposes its fighters, Israel will
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  Speaker 14: kill them.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, being revealed as a Hummas leader in Gaza now
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  Speaker 3: has become an almost instant death sentence. So Palestinians can
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  Speaker 3: finally stand up against.
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  Speaker 4: Their terrorist dictators.
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  Speaker 3: It's high time the leftist activists and Islamists of the West,
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  Speaker 3: who claim to care about the Palestinian people, it's high
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  Speaker 3: time that they finally joined the calls of the people
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  Speaker 3: of Gaza. That is, that they demand the return of
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  Speaker 3: the hostages to Israel and the surrender of the terrorists
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  Speaker 3: to Israel so that the people of Gaza might have
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  Speaker 3: a chance at peace. Sadly, however, the Western virtue signalers
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  Speaker 3: don't do this. Instead, they continue to preach lies and hatred.
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  Speaker 3: And here's another example. In Australia Land Music Awards last
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  Speaker 3: night a jazz award was given to Kelly Green for
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  Speaker 3: an instrumental piece entitled River to the Sea.
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  Speaker 4: Have a listen.
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  Speaker 3: A rather unremarkable piece of music, wouldn't you say?
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  Speaker 4: No lyrics?
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  Speaker 3: And you have to think that perhaps the only reason
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  Speaker 3: that won the award was the provocative title River to
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  Speaker 3: the Sea, which of course has become known as the
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  Speaker 3: Hummas slogan for eradicating Jews from the Middle East. And
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  Speaker 3: if you had any doubts about where green sympathies lie,
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  Speaker 3: you only had to listen to her acceptance speech.
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  Speaker 16: We are now on day five and seventy six years
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  Speaker 16: of the interned aside.
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  Speaker 4: I guess the people of Palestine, have you.
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  Speaker 16: Said the mainstream medi in Western governments secuting Australia, who.
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  Speaker 4: Supporter of the mass laughter?
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  Speaker 16: And if they cleansing of the into.
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  Speaker 4: An entire race apea what a sick distortion of reality.
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  Speaker 3: Hummas is committed to genocide, It exists to commit genocide
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  Speaker 3: against the Jews, against Israel. Yet useful idiots like this
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  Speaker 3: musician pretend that Israel where Arabs and Jews, where Muslims
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  Speaker 3: and Jews live side by side in peace and democracy,
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  Speaker 3: they accuse Israel of genocide. This is the opposite of reality.
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  Speaker 3: This is idiotic and obscene.
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  Speaker 4: But plenty lap it.
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  Speaker 16: Up, iow, do you please educate yourselves about this ongoing
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  Speaker 16: genocide and by protesting, contacting MP to meet in the
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  Speaker 16: room tonight and why cutting where you can so this
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  Speaker 16: government knows that these war times are here without a
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  Speaker 16: consent and whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That's Kelly Green and she should take her own advice
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  Speaker 3: and educate herself. If the Palestinians of Gaza can risk
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  Speaker 3: their lives to protest against Hummas, if the Palestinians of
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  Speaker 3: Gaza can see that Hummaus are terrorists more interested in
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  Speaker 3: killing Jews than saving their own children, then why can't
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  Speaker 3: a musician from Queensland work it out. Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: Canberra now and catch up with the Nationals leader David
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  Speaker 3: Little Proud David, thanks for joining us. You must be
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to the budget in reply speech tonight. Are
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  Speaker 3: we going to hear about any substantial economic reform in
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  Speaker 3: the speech tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we are.
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  Speaker 17: We're going to take on the nation's problems, not by
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  Speaker 17: a running away from them and just giving subsidies with
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  Speaker 17: Australian taxpayers money. We're going to lean into solving the fundamentals.
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  Speaker 17: And that's a proper energy grid. In the short term,
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  Speaker 17: that's about flooding the market with gas trying to bring
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  Speaker 17: down your energy bill. In the medium term, it's about
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  Speaker 17: a nuclear policy that has a mix that's that's two
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  Speaker 17: hundred and sixty four billion dollars cheaper than an all
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  Speaker 17: renewables approach. This is about using some common sense, but
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  Speaker 17: having the courage to actually stand up and say we
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  Speaker 17: just can't keep kicking our nation's problems down the road,
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  Speaker 17: to actually say enough's enough. We're going to show some
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  Speaker 17: strong leadership, not just with energy but also with migration.
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  Speaker 17: That we can't bring in another one point eight million
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  Speaker 17: people over the next five years and expect to house
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  Speaker 17: them or put on another forty one thousand new public
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  Speaker 17: servants in Canberra. We've got bills to pay, We've got priorities,
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  Speaker 17: and you've got to have a government that has the
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  Speaker 17: courage to list those priorities and make sure you get
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  Speaker 17: them right. And that's what Peter Dutnell outline. He's going
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  Speaker 17: to show leadership and strength in saying to this country
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  Speaker 17: there's a way to get our country back on track,
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  Speaker 17: and that's getting back to basics.
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  Speaker 15: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Your criticism of Labour's tax cuts are spot on. They
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  Speaker 3: are tiny tax cuts and they're more than a year away,
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  Speaker 3: so they're just a distraction in the budget. But surely
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to follow through as Angus Taylor has
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  Speaker 3: suggested and legislate to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 2: Surely they will just leave them be.
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  Speaker 17: Well, you can't afford both. And what we've got to
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  Speaker 17: be is honest. As I just said, we want to
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  Speaker 17: be honest with the Australian people. There is time for
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  Speaker 17: leadership in this nation. We just can't keep spending your
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  Speaker 17: money to give sugar hits and to get you through.
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  Speaker 17: What we've got to understand is the cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 17: Now will take considered measures and that's why our announcement
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  Speaker 17: around the excise cutting the exercise. It's not just about
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  Speaker 17: mums and dads getting that it's about truckes getting that
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  Speaker 17: that puts downward pressure on your grocery bill and supply
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  Speaker 17: chains right through the economy. This is about making sure
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  Speaker 17: that we make the right decisions and prepared to make
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  Speaker 17: the tough decisions. I think Australians are sick of governments
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  Speaker 17: and politicians just saying me too, and spending more money.
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  Speaker 17: It's their money and someone's going to have to pay
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  Speaker 17: it back, and ultimately someone's gonna have to courage to say,
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  Speaker 17: you know what, We're going to do the right thing
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  Speaker 17: by this country. And it might be as many dollars
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  Speaker 17: in your pocket straight up, but we're going to do
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  Speaker 17: the right thing because if we keep kicking this down
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  Speaker 17: the road, you're going to pay more later on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward so much to this speech at seven
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  Speaker 3: point thirty tonight. It will be carried here live on
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  Speaker 3: Sky News. I'm looking forward to it because Australians need
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  Speaker 3: a real alternative now from what you've been saying and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: what Peter Dutton's been saying.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to see something.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: In gas and energy to try and get more gas
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: into the market to push electricity prices down more quickly. Yes,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: you're going to cut the immigration rates so that we
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: can try and ease some of the pressures on housing
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and other things in this country. Obviously you're going to
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: cut some public service numbers and try and reduce the
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: size of government.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: They're all good steps in the right direction.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: But on taxation, is there going to be any more
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: substantive reform rather than just this help with the petrol
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: taxes for the next twelve months.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Is there going to be any taxation reform?
• 19:49
  Speaker 17: Well, cutting excise is cutting tax. It is a tax
• 19:53
  Speaker 17: on this shrame people. But when we want to make
• 19:56
  Speaker 17: the further tax reforms we gave stage one and two
• 19:59
  Speaker 17: we actually had I said that there was a stage three,
• 20:01
  Speaker 17: and that was about broader tax reform, about addressing bracket creep.
• 20:05
  Speaker 17: When we can afford that. We've been very clear that
• 20:08
  Speaker 17: we will lean into that and we'll achieve that. But
• 20:11
  Speaker 17: we've got to have the dollars to be able to
• 20:14
  Speaker 17: do that. And at the moment we don't have the
• 20:17
  Speaker 17: money to give you the Stage three tax cuts that
• 20:19
  Speaker 17: were planned. But at the moment we do, then we've
• 20:23
  Speaker 17: got a strong record of giving tax cuts as a
• 20:26
  Speaker 17: coalition government, and that's a principle. We haven't run away
• 20:29
  Speaker 17: from But we understand the immediacy of the pain that's
• 20:32
  Speaker 17: been held, not in fifteen months time with seventy cents
• 20:34
  Speaker 17: a day, but with something that will also put downward
• 20:38
  Speaker 17: pressure on the supply chain. Costs that you're paying at
• 20:41
  Speaker 17: a checkout that's haft some common sense, and that's a
• 20:44
  Speaker 17: fraction of what they're spending on tax cuts you're going
• 20:46
  Speaker 17: to get in fifteen months.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: We're going to make the tough decisions.
• 20:50
  Speaker 17: And I think it's time for someone to stand up
• 20:53
  Speaker 17: and make those tough decisions.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: And Peter Dutte, you'll.
• 20:55
  Speaker 17: Hear tonight, is the man, in an hour of need
• 20:58
  Speaker 17: of this nation to stand up and make the tough
• 21:00
  Speaker 17: decisions about what we can do in the short term
• 21:02
  Speaker 17: but leave a legacy of shifting the dial in fixing
• 21:07
  Speaker 17: the fundamentals of what drives an economy. Electricity and energy
• 21:10
  Speaker 17: drives an economy. And that's what you've got to fix, primarily.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Just another matters.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: While you're in Canberra dealing with all this, the heavens
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: have opened in your neck of the woods in Queensland
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: and floods are occurring.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Just how serious is it? Yeah?
• 21:25
  Speaker 17: Look, in fact, the little community of ada Vale was
• 21:28
  Speaker 17: evacuated this morning. About I think the sixty or seventy
• 21:31
  Speaker 17: people live in eight of al from memory, it is concerning,
• 21:35
  Speaker 17: but I think the local authorities out there seem to
• 21:38
  Speaker 17: have it under control. Talking to the mayor's out there,
• 21:40
  Speaker 17: and there is a silver lining to this. Chris got
• 21:42
  Speaker 17: to understand that's been pretty dry out in the outback
• 21:46
  Speaker 17: and so long as it stays where it is, we
• 21:48
  Speaker 17: should get out of this pretty well. And in fact
• 21:50
  Speaker 17: what we should see is a pretty good twelve months
• 21:53
  Speaker 17: ahead of us in terms of a season. And the
• 21:55
  Speaker 17: one thing Australians can do for us in outback Queensland
• 21:58
  Speaker 17: is in a couple of weeks time dries out and
• 22:00
  Speaker 17: the roads are repaired, is most people go for a
• 22:03
  Speaker 17: trip out there with their caravans. Come out. You should
• 22:06
  Speaker 17: support these communities. We need you out in winter and
• 22:09
  Speaker 17: long Reach and Birds or Fargaminda and Quilpi because we
• 22:13
  Speaker 17: need your money and the roads will be fixed. Don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 17: stay away. This flood will go away in the coming
• 22:18
  Speaker 17: couple of weeks. But from what I'm hearing from the mayors,
• 22:22
  Speaker 17: things are holding up and there could be a silver
• 22:24
  Speaker 17: lining in terms of agriculture. But we need those tourists
• 22:27
  Speaker 17: to come back.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Good stuff and plenty of that water will be welcome
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: downstream of Darling and elsewhere as well. Thanks so much
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: for joining us, David, appreciate it, David little.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Proud they're live from Canberra.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: I want to go to Israel now because we've got
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: to find out more about what's going on in Gaza.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Just how significant this uprising of Palestinians in Gaza against
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Humas is. Let's catch up again with Gerald Steinberg, who's
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: professor of politics at Bar Alan Universally in Jerusalem.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Gerald.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: How perspective should we be feeling about these protests they're
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: occurring again, The numbers are large, and we're hearing that,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: at least as far as anyone's been aware, there's been
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: no crackdown now, no reprisals yet from Hamas.
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: First of all, I think it shows that Hamas is
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: significantly weaker. You know, Chris, about eighteen months ago when
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: the atrocities happened, when Thamas invaded and killed and raped
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: and slaughtered so many Israelis a lot of the pundits,
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: the experts, the journalists said, well, Israel's not going to
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: be able to defeat Hamas. They're not going to be
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: able to destroy Hamas. They're going to have to learn
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: to negotiate with them, all sorts of other cliches like that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: This is showing in many different ways that that's wrong.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: Hamas is very much weakened. The leaders that remained after
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: the fighting that took place in them, there was a
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: ceasefire and released of some of the hostages. They got
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: up on stages and there's really macabre, absurd in moral
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: ceremonies of hanging over Israelis humiliating and dead bodies of
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: children and all of that. The leaders who are up
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: on those stages are now being eliminated. They're not going
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: to be able to do that kind of performance again.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: And that also sends a very strong message of Commas
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: is very much weaker. The fact that you have a
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: lot of Palestinian standing up and saying we don't want
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: these people here anymore to ruin our lives, to bring
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: war against us, to make us dig these miles and
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: miles of tunnels underground which you're used for terror. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: think that's a major change. We have to see how
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: it develops in the next few weeks, a few months
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: it's very important that the leaders of what we still
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: call I think the free world, including in Australia, give
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: those protesters all the support that they can get. Let's
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: stop talking about helping Andra and all these other UN
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: agencies that have perpetuated the conflict and really help hum
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: Us spot on.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Of course, apathetic government here has been silent on this
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: stuff again, and I've just in their budget to tip
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: another twenty million dollars to Andress. So don't expect much
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: hope this side of an election from Australia. Let's have
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: a listen to what the Israeley Prime Minister Benjamin and
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yaho's been saying that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Wayne watching more.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And more Gazans understand that Hamas brings.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: Destruction and doom upon them, and it's important all this
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: shows that our policy is working.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt that their policies have worked to taking
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: out the Ummas leadership. But the question is this, Jerald,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: why you've got those masses of people in Gaza bravely
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: calling out Hamas, demanding that the hostages are returned to Israel,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: demanding that the terrorists surrender, that they have a go
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: at peace. They're the people that Israel and the Western
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: world needs to support what can be done to support them.
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: I think they're all starts with saying the right words
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: and repeating not just what Prime Minister and Tanyahu has
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: said about others, that they need support. That things are
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: against the Kammas terrorist regime that has controlled Gaza for
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: now eighteen years and really most of the West Bank
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: and the Palestinian society. It's a dictatorship, it's a terrorist regime.
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: So subset, we agree with the protesters, we need to
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: support them. Those words they need to hear. And then
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: second of all, in terms of stopping the aid that
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: goes directly into the hands of Hamas, it's not really aid,
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: going and finding alternative methods and there are plenty of
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: them to bring food and water and helping the people
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: there who are protesting reconstruct. You know, a lot of
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: the agencies just handed out cash. You learned about that
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: even the United States government funding was given to cash,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: and Hamas decided who was going to get that, being
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: much more careful with the aid that's given, so you
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: know where your money's going, where your tax dollars are going,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: not into the hands of Ramas but into the hands
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: of the protesters. It's going to take a while. They
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: need to develop a different leadership structure that those need
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: to be helped as well.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Gerald Steinberg, thanks for joining us again.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: There we are. That's the situation, live there for this.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: So I'll tell you what in Australia, in America, across Europe,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: in the UK, what should be happening this weekend is
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: all those protesters who have been out there on behalf
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: of the Palestinian Cause for the Life start a months
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: bagging Israel and protesting against Israel. They should be out
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: there this weekend protesting in support of those Palestinians in
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Gaza who are calling out humm Us. They should be
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: protesting against humm Us and in favor of surrendering the hostages,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: surrendering the terrorists, and allowing Palestinian.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: People to suit for peace. Now we've got to take
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: a break.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: On the other side of that, I want to talk
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: about this amazing Netflix series that's just creating waves right
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: around the world. It's called Adolescence. It focus on young boys,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: social media, sexual assault. I'll get Claire Rose views after
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: this break. Now, we talk a lot around the country
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: about juvenile crime, about the pressures of social media and
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the issues of sexual assault, especially among young people. And
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: there's a fictional Netflix series focusing on these issues that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: currently taking the world by storm.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: It's called Adolescence. Have a look. What are you looking for?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You're making a big mistake.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: That I haven't done anything.
• 28:16
  Speaker 18: Do you know a girl called Katie Lennard?
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, describe each other as friends?
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Then is she at them? Why would you ask her?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: M Now, I've been watching this as many people have.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: It's pretty disturbing. It's worth a look and for more
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: to talk about the series and the issues it raises.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Let's bring in child and adolescent psychologist Clear Row, who
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: joins us from Adelaide this time around. Claire, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I watched this series after reading a bit about it. Obviously,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: as a parent of boys, they have a real interest
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: in it, But as someone who deals in these issues
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: day in day out, I'm just fascinated.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: To get to get your response to it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Whether it actually zeros in on some issues that you
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: think are really pertinent in this day and age.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, I absolutely think it does. I binged this Chris
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: this week. I couldn't stop. It's only four episodes, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: I think this is confronting and challenging. Yes, this series,
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: and it is a work of fiction, but I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: is compulsory viewing. If you are a parent, if you're
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: working with kids, particularly if you have sons, this is
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: compulsory viewing. I think it holds up a mirror to
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: a very dangerous problem. And look, I've got a few thoughts.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: I think you and I have spoken a couple of
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: times about how we seem to sling this kind of
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: toxic masculinity around, and we seem to blame masculinity a lot,
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: and I don't think that that's fair on a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: of our boys, al most of our boys. And at
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: the same time, I think it really highlights that we're
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: really still traditionally raising boys to suppress their emotions. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: we see here this main character who's a normal kid
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: from a normal family and is lost and it is
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: struggling with identity and you know, issues to do with
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: his masculinity and bullying and friendships, and in the absence
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: of better mentors perhaps present fathers finds himself in online
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: spaces and you know, are those spaces around Is this
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: a possibility for young boys? Absolutely?
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: And I actually think we've.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Been calling them you know, toxic for so long that
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: a lot of boys are kind of like, well, they
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: get into these spaces and suddenly toxic masculinity seems okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: and it provides identity and it provides a group to
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: belong to. But they're very misogynistic and they're very dangerous.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the lessons here, and it's a similar
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: lesson I suppose for girls. It's true obviously of children
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: of either gender, but that is no matter how much
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: visibility you have of the child, and that in this
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: online world, there will be things going on that you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: may have no idea about. And when your child is
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: on a computer or engaged in social media, there can
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: be a whole other world operating and it can be
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: quite dangerous. And indeed there's a whole subculture around that
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that might be operating through their circle of friends at
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: schools and the like. So is there a warning there
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: for parents to somehow be involved in all of that,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to somehow have visibility over all of that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: This is the biggest wake up call crias. That's why
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: I think every parent should watch it. The biggest influence
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: on your kids is not on the dodgy street corner.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: It's in their bedroom through their phone, and you know
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: this signifies talk to your children. I think the difference
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: between boys and girls is that girls often internalize when
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: they're struggling, and you can see anxiety and depression, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: we support that. Boys externalize. They become aggressive and defiant
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: and act out, and we often punish that without really
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: scratching the surface and that they might be struggling underneath.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: So you need to be talking to your sons and
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: your kids. Who are they following, who are their influencers,
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: what do they like about them, have open conversations, be present,
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: and if they're spending too much time, you know, get
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: the screens out of the bedrooms.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Great stuff, Claire, Thanks for joining us. Claire row there
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: with some fantastic advice. Have a look at the series
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: if you're interested in your own children, your own grandchildren.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: It's a really compelling and disturbing series. And listen to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: what Claire Rowe says there. Talk to your kids, find
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: out what they're viewing on social media and online, because sometimes.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: We've got no idea.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Got to take a break.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: On the other side of that, we're going to talk
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: about the Trump administration being under fire over that leaked
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: war plans episode sent to a journalist. No less, I'll
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: catch up with former Foreign Minister Alexander Downer.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Let's catch up on.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Foreign issues with former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer, who
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: joins US Life from Madlee.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Good to talk to Alexander.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: This controversy in the US is a ripper, isn't it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It seems fascical.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Of course, You've got the Secretary of Defense and others
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: discussing war plans in Yemen, and they include on there WhatsApp.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Group effectively a journalist.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Now, obviously it's a stuff up, but many are trying
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to turn it into a major scandal against the Trump administration.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: What's your assessment.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: My assessment is that's that's just party politics. It obviously
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: was a stuff up. Although this signal system is said
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: to be much more reliable than WhatsApp, it's pretty much impenetrable,
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: and I know, for example, in Australia a lot of
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: public servants do use the signal system in the UK
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: as well because it is so impenetrable. But it wasn't
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: that it was penetrated. It was that they invited into
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: the group. The editor of the Atlantic magazine is a mistake,
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: not meant to have happened. But I would have thought
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: that was the beginning and the end of it. As
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: President Trump said, the attack on Yemen, on the Houthis
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: in Yemen was a huge success. They did enormous damage
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: to the Houthy capabilities. And that's the real point. The
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: rest of it is just trying to embarrass the Trump
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: administration and make party political points against them.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Sure is he a bit of what Donald Trump had
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 34:31
  Speaker 18: I think it's all a witch hunt, that's all. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 18: think it's a witch hunt. I wasn't involved with it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 18: I wasn't there, but I can tell you the result
• 34:39
  Speaker 18: is unbelievable because the hooties are looking to do something.
• 34:43
  Speaker 19: They want to know.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: How do we stop?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: How do we stop? Can we have peace?
• 34:47
  Speaker 18: The hooties want piece because they're getting their hell knocked
• 34:51
  Speaker 18: out of them.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. Look.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I can't help but talking about the media in this case, though, Alexander,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: because as you say, there's so much politicking around this.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Some of them are frothing at the mouth trying to
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: create some great national security scandal. And these are the
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: same people who you know, not many years ago, were
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: trying to play down the fact that the Hillary Clinton
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: was essentially running the whole State Department out of a
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: private server in her.
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: Apartment exactly, Yeah, using her private email system. And I
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: didn't think a huge amount hung on that, by the way,
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: and absolutely nothing hangs on this. I mean, obviously it's
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: embarrassing that this guy Goldberg, who's the editor of The Atlantic,
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: which by the way is a very left leaning magazine,
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: so he will be a very anti trunk person that
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: he was included into the group. I mean, the National
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: Security Advisor has taken responsibility for it, and rightly so,
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: I suppose, but it could be one of his staff
• 35:58
  Speaker 10: who did it. Actually suspect that's what's happened now, but
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: you know, nothing flows from.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: It exactly now, just I want to bring you back
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to our own domestic politics. Of course, with the election
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: likely to be called tomorrow or in coming days, you've
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: written this week about the prospect of a minority government
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a hung parliament. We'll see whether the polling changes during
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the campaign, but that's what's on prospect at the moment.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on what that they'll do for the.
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: Country, Well, I think with the Greens Obviously they're giving
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: Labor confidence no matter what, and who knows how many
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: seats they'll win because they won't get liberal preferences in
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: any electorate now, so who knows. But with the Greens
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: they will on particular pieces of legislation try to force
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: the Labor Party into more extreme positions, as you can
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: see from this stunt over Tasmanian summon that the Greens
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: have been pulling recently. So I think it would be
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: very bad for Australia with the Teals. The problem is
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: that the Teals will probably go with the party with
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: the most seats, and if that's the Coalition, the coalition
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: would be able to govern if the Teals held the
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: balance of power, but they would sabotage almost everything.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: The Coalition wanted to do.
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: So there's an argument for the coalition saying we'll govern
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: on our own. We might govern with the support of
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: the more right leaning Independence, but with the Teals, who
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: are lined up much more with the Greens, they're a
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: left wing group. When it comes to the Teals, we
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: wouldn't be able to govern effectively with them, and I
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: think that's a real prospect.
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  Speaker 3: I could not agree more, although I have to point
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: out is that not a Teal shirt you're wearing tonight.
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  Speaker 10: It's sympathy for Port, sympathy for the Port Adelaide club.
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: Port Adelaide has colours are till and black.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, better terms Barrick for Port than the Tier MPs.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Alexander down and Alexander down there
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  Speaker 3: the live from Adelaide.
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  Speaker 2: He's an Adelaide crows Man.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: He would never support either the Port Adelaide team or
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: the Teal MPs. Now Anzac Day is only a few
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: weeks away, with this year actually marking the one hundred
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: and tenth anniversary of the Gallipoli landings, and for the
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: last few years, thanks to the Australian Remembrance Foundation, there's
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: been a tribute concert at Sydney's Town Hall on the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: eve of Anzac Day. The events become so popular that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: it's been moved to the Opera House fore Court this year,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: which is going to make for a spectacular scene. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: want to bring in Sir Peter Cosgrove now he's the
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: former Governor General, of course and former Chief of Defense
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: and of course he is the patron of the Australian
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Remembrance Foundation.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Sir Peter Cosgrave, I've got to get your thoughts.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: On this event on the eve of Anzac Day.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Explain to us the significance of it and how it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: come about.
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  Speaker 19: Well, Anzac Day itself, of course is Choco Bloc, and
• 39:19
  Speaker 19: we don't want to stifle the opportunity we get to
• 39:24
  Speaker 19: have a major event in the greatest harbor in the world,
• 39:28
  Speaker 19: the gateway to Australia and a place where the war
• 39:33
  Speaker 19: came and for a brief period right into the harbor
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  Speaker 19: in nineteen forty two, and this year, of course eighty
• 39:42
  Speaker 19: years since the victory in the Pacific which marked the
• 39:45
  Speaker 19: end of World War Two. So in that respect we
• 39:50
  Speaker 19: can say that there's extra significance to opening up this
• 39:53
  Speaker 19: concert for the venue of Sydney Harbor. It's going to
• 39:57
  Speaker 19: be beautiful, it's going to show our marblous harbor. But
• 40:01
  Speaker 19: in a commemorative sense, we lost twenty one sailors killed
• 40:06
  Speaker 19: that night of the attack by the Japanese mini submarines
• 40:10
  Speaker 19: in Sydney Harbor. They were on a ferry called the
• 40:13
  Speaker 19: Cutable and they were using it as a dormitory out
• 40:17
  Speaker 19: in the harbor and the Japanese submariners fired to try
• 40:20
  Speaker 19: and hit the USS Chicago. I didn't get the Chicago,
• 40:24
  Speaker 19: but got the cutaball with loss of life of everybody aboard.
• 40:27
  Speaker 19: So there's a poignancy about the concert being watching solemnly
• 40:32
  Speaker 19: over that place, over reasonably close to Missus Macquarie's chair.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And of course even when you go back to
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: the Gallipoli, of course the eve of van Zac Day
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: is something that's very much worth contemplating because on that
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: occasion one hundred and ten years ago, our diggers would
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: have been on the high seas preparing for a landing
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: that they knew was going to be difficult. It's a
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: very very evocative time thinking about what was going to
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: unfold at first light the next morning.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Tell us what sort of a ceremony it's going.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: To be obviously such a spectacular location, and it'll be
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: happening as the sun goes down in the west.
• 41:13
  Speaker 19: Well, it's one thing it's not it's not going to
• 41:15
  Speaker 19: be modern pop music. It's going to be the traditional
• 41:18
  Speaker 19: hymns and musical performances. It's going to be solemn, it's
• 41:24
  Speaker 19: going to be scenic, and it's going to be done
• 41:28
  Speaker 19: by some marvelous musicians. I mean little Patty. Her most
• 41:33
  Speaker 19: famous touch point with the Defense Corse was she was
• 41:38
  Speaker 19: performing in Nui Dat in Vietnam on the afternoon that
• 41:43
  Speaker 19: the Long Tan Battle started, only a cricket ball throw
• 41:47
  Speaker 19: away from the from the wire, and her concert had
• 41:51
  Speaker 19: to be foreshortened because the artillery going out in mass
• 41:55
  Speaker 19: volumes wouldn't allow the concert to be heard, and all
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: the diggers were needed to run back to their places
• 42:01
  Speaker 19: of operational duty. So Little Paddy's there, nor Mi Ray
• 42:05
  Speaker 19: will be there, Christine r Nu will be there. I
• 42:07
  Speaker 19: mean performers from the military bands and the great scenery
• 42:14
  Speaker 19: that we will see of Sydney Harbor, pausing for that
• 42:18
  Speaker 19: moment to remember that that war not only affected the
• 42:23
  Speaker 19: men and women who were in the uniform, but the
• 42:27
  Speaker 19: civilians who were terrorized and terrified. On that point at
• 42:32
  Speaker 19: evening in June nineteen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Forty two, wonderful stuff, Sir Peter, thanks so much for
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: joining us. Sir Peter Cosgro there from the Australian Remembrance
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Foundation talking about this event on Anzac Day Eve. Now
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you can go to this Tickets are free, but you've
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: got a book, but you can get those tickets if
• 42:48
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• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Lest we forget dot org dot au and you.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Could be at the Sydney Harbor, at the Sydney Opera
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: House fore court there in Sydney Harbor on the eve
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of Anzac Day.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Now we've got to take a break.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: On the other side of.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: That, we'll catch up with Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Climate Council and.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: It's latest of farmerst election.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: At that's convene the National Cabinet. Hey with Tim Blair
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: and Martin Nicholson joining me. As ever on a Thursday, gentlemen,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: we've got to go to another case of politicians behaving badly.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: And I've got to remind you of the bloke who
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: was at the time the Liberal leader in South Australia,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: the opposition leader.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: His name is David Spears, and you'll.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Record this video footage that was propagated of him appearing
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: to snort a substance in his kitchen. Now, we had
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: real trouble with this story because he denied it, said
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: it was a computer fake, some sort of AI fake
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: and whatever. Well, today Mark, he's turned up in court
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and pleaded guilty.
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and in yet another web of life that he's
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: going to. He's going to find himself into. He said,
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: he's just he's pleading guilty just to expedite the process,
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: just because.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: It's just the easiest thing to do.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He's not just a deep fake. It's whatever.
• 44:11
  Speaker 11: And people are saying his career is over in politics.
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: I think it's I think he can I think he
• 44:15
  Speaker 11: can still go. I reckon, he can go. I reckon
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: he All he needs to do is just back it in,
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: say yeah, I love it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: What else is there to do?
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: In Adelaide, He'll get a spot on the Greens ticket.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: He's all for it. You'll get to go.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: He is already out of Parliament, but you're right he
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: could come back via the Greens. You would think here
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: he was making those comments outside court today.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: This is about bringing the matchup to a conclusion as
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: quickly as possible. That's the best thing from me at
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: a personal level.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: That's the best way.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: Tim.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: You just plead guilty and move on. It's got nothing
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to do with what actually happened.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: It's a bit late to play the play the rush hand,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: isn't it too? Like you? He's had a lot of
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: time make a very quick decision, but also he could
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: have been a bit more creative with his users instead
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: of going straight to the deep faith. The biden est
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: kind of claim was all made up and come up
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: with a very South Australian excuse like maybe it was
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: flower from some artistical sourdough. You know, maybe you know
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: some people might have bought it. Let's there's still time
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: in turn it around.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Turn it around now, Mark, I know that you're looking
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to fill in some of your vacant weekends in the
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: coming in the coming weeks to do some campaigning for
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Monique Ryan in the Seed of Couyong, because that's one
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: TLMP I know you'd like to keep in parliament. Just
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: before you get out and will knock on her behalf,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: make sure you listen to the training.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Video because they got some important advice for you.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see.
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: It's really really important to use the term doctor Monique Ryan.
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: We want people to know that she's a doctor and
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: Monique Ryan is the way that her name appears on
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: a ballot paper. So that's really really important to use
• 45:59
  Speaker 13: doctor Manique Ryan.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: You got that, Mark, it's not Monique Yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: Mate, loud and clear, Mate, loud and clear.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I was on that zoom call and I was there.
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: Just it really goes to show just how much she
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: thinks of the good constituents of cur Youong by the
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: way that they'll get absolutely dazzled by the good doctor.
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: That's all it takes, it, doesn't you know, Let's not
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: let's not campaign on anything else like achievements. Let's just
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: do it based on pure titles. It's ridiculous that people
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: in cur Youong are going to be dazzled by that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: This is a rare case where I think the doctor
• 46:31
  Speaker 11: is kind of sick because yeah, this is she just
• 46:34
  Speaker 11: thinks she's better than everybody.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I think that's the idea. Yeah, well I think that
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: might be.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: There might be a bit of that in it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Tim.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: That's all about a bit of moral superiority.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: She's she They're very lucky to have her, I think
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: is generally the tone of that training video.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and a lot of two things here. If Manik
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Rayan wants to be known as a doctor, she should
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: continue practicing as well. Secondly, please Secondly, it might not
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: be too late for her opponents to change their names
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: by deeppoll to doctor, which would largely cancel out monic
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Ryan's credential superiority. Don't you think be a girl?
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: Get that one to go now.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Climate Council are getting ready for the election campaign.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: And look, look, you can knock me over with a feather.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: They reckon.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: It's a real crisis, a real tipping point this time,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: have a loot.
• 47:28
  Speaker 15: I've been holding a hose for fifty years. The fires
• 47:31
  Speaker 15: we're fighting now are nothing like the past. Our climate
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: is changing and our communities have suffered enough. The greatest
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: tragedy of the Black Summer bush fires is that we
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: saw it coming. We can't afford leaders who ignore the
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: warning signs. The federal coalition still has no credible plan
• 47:47
  Speaker 15: to cut climate pollution. This is a critical climate election,
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: like our lives depend on.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: It, because they do. Jeepers, Mark, I'll tell you what
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: you wonder.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: You've got bushfire problems.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: If people think they're going to fight it with renewable energy.
• 48:03
  Speaker 11: Exactly, maybe you put a wind farm in there. It'll explode.
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: It will make it even worse. That's the real cause
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: of a bushfire, isn't it. But the insight of this
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: ad is if you don't vote Labor and Greens, you're
• 48:15
  Speaker 11: literally burn in hell. That's a terrible message and it's
• 48:18
  Speaker 11: only going to I don't know who it's convincing. It's
• 48:20
  Speaker 11: convincing nobody. It's a really tacky campaign that's just politicizing
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: national disasters. It makes absolutely no sense. Is there anything
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: that they want into It's the question, Chris, if a
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: tree falls in the forest and there's no one around
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: to blame it on climate change, did it really fall
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: at all?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: They are just nuts now, Donald Trump, let's have a
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: look at something he said which seems uncontroversial, but these
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: days and everything's controversial.
• 48:47
  Speaker 18: Have looked on day one, I made the official policy
• 48:51
  Speaker 18: of the United States government that there are only two genders,
• 48:55
  Speaker 18: male and female.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody, seriously? Is there anybody that disagrees with
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: that in this room?
• 49:08
  Speaker 18: I was thinking maybe somebody from the press mode, Resident
• 49:11
  Speaker 18: I don't think so.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: It's looking for the media to dissent him.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: As someone far clever and more witty than me once
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: pointed out, if there are if there are more than
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: two genders, how come if you undergo a sex change,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you've only got two options. Think about that.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: It's a very good point. There are no other options.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Spot on.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to show you this too.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: We've we've had a look at people vandalizing tesla's.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I want to show you the latest example from the States.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: Well has got the goat cart and he's pounding.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Away at the tesla. There we go, and I think
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: in worst news for the driver. He eventually got off
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the cart and just sat on the bonnet.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: But there you go.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: People.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson. We'll
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: catch you next week. Dad, is all the time we
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: got for you this week.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned tonight for Peter Dutton at seven thirty for
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: his budget and reply.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Here's Peter Quidlin