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Never Kiss a Man in A Christmas Sweater · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, I'm Megan, I'm Wendy, and welcome to Girls
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Speaker 1: Gone Christmas, a series of bonus episodes from Long Story Short,
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Speaker 1: Email follow up to a previous Girl's Gone Christmas episode.
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Speaker 2: Very excited.
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Speaker 1: We have an email from Heidi who says, first of all,
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Speaker 1: I want to say how much I enjoy listening to
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Speaker 1: your podcast, which, guys, we never get tired of hearing
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Speaker 1: that I used to live in Colorado and prior to
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Speaker 1: that had never made a snow angel or really ever
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Speaker 1: visited snow as. I was born and raised in Orange County,
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Speaker 1: as were we. When you get a large amount of snow,
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Speaker 1: one to two feet of snow, you were able to
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Speaker 1: drop back like that and make a snow angel. However,
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Speaker 1: I am not sure if I would do it as
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Speaker 1: an adult. My daughter used to do it all the
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Speaker 1: time she was two to three years old. And then
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Speaker 1: she says, Wendy, I have also never watched a Hallmark
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Speaker 1: movie ever. I might try and watch some of the
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Speaker 1: ones you guys review and see if I actually like them.
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Speaker 1: Thanks again for doing the podcast, Heidi. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Heidi was my high school best friend, so really, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: I know you knew her, but I didn't know that
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Speaker 1: level of the connection.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very excited that she's listening to our podcast.
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Speaker 2: It makes me happy. Thank you, Heidi.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate the snow Angel intel because we
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Speaker 1: don't know anything about Reagan's snow Angel.
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Speaker 2: Not one damn thing. Nope.
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Speaker 1: This week's episode is all about never kiss a Man
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Speaker 1: in a Christmas Sweater, featuring Ashley Williams and Nile Mater
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Speaker 1: as Maggie and Lucas.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, do you want me to read this synopsis here,
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Speaker 2: I do. Okay, Single mom Maggie is facing Christmas alone
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Speaker 2: until Lucas crashes into her life and becomes an unexpected
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Speaker 2: house guest. Together, they overcome Christmas while finding comfort in
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Speaker 2: their growing bond. Megan, it took me six hours to
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Speaker 2: watch this movie.
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Speaker 1: I have a full page of complaints about this movie.
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Speaker 2: I have quite a few too, but let's just jump in.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with the compliments. Let's start with what
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Speaker 1: we loved about this movie. Let's let's go high in.
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Speaker 2: The Beginningay, can I start, please? I really liked Ashley Williams.
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Speaker 2: I think she's a great actress. I can't tell you
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Speaker 2: anything else she's been in, but I thought she was
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Speaker 2: great with the material she had. I think she could
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Speaker 2: probably handle a lot more like to me, she seems
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Speaker 2: very quirky and fun and maybe like a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a physical actress, you know what I mean, like
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Speaker 2: a physical comedy actress. I just thought this material was
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Speaker 2: real below average, but I agree. I like her.
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Speaker 1: She's definitely a Hallmark Christmas movie Darling, and so I
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Speaker 1: know her from that. I enjoyed her quite a bit.
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Speaker 1: Like you said, I think she was given a dud
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Speaker 1: of a script for real. One thing I loved was
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Speaker 1: at the very end of the movie, the video messages
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Speaker 1: from the troops. That's always like a heart string polar
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Speaker 1: for me, and I would have liked more of those.
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Speaker 1: Could I could have stood to have a little bit
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Speaker 1: more of that part of the movie.
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Speaker 2: Really, because they only showed two. They had one very
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Speaker 2: short one and then they had a long one. Who
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Speaker 2: was the dad of the little boy read? And I
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Speaker 2: think he had a sister, yeah, and that was very heartfelt.
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Speaker 2: I do think there could have been more storytelling around
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Speaker 2: that aspect.
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Speaker 3: Of the movie.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was really sweet too, And that little
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Speaker 2: boy read I thought was so cute. I mean, like,
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Speaker 2: how can you not feel for families who are not together?
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Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, that was the most touching part of
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Speaker 1: the movie for me, and I do think that saved
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Speaker 1: the movie for me, because otherwise it, like I said,
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Speaker 1: it struggled for me. But I did enjoy that. And
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Speaker 1: even the third video message we only saw. We didn't
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Speaker 1: see it, We only heard the audio of it, and
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Speaker 1: then we saw like shots of the audience, So I
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Speaker 1: would have enjoyed more of that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, what else did you like anything else?
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Speaker 1: I liked the exterior of Maggie's house, like her pretty
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Speaker 1: porch with her little fire pit.
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed that. Ah, we're really reaching what about you. No,
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Speaker 2: that's all I've got. That's the only two notes I
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Speaker 2: have under what I liked.
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Speaker 1: That's it for me too.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: In these movies, we've been tracking the niece count and
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Speaker 1: this movie throws as a curveball because it's not a niece.
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Speaker 2: I got a nephew. It's a nephew and our robotic daughter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was like, who's this. I've never seen a teenager
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Speaker 2: act like this. She was so sweet and kind and
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Speaker 2: then yeah, no.
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Speaker 1: Loving to both of her parents.
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Speaker 2: Not I haven't.
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Speaker 1: Okay, going back to the nephew thing. One thing I
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Speaker 1: think this movie did a lot of is if you
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Speaker 1: take every Hallmark movie trope, I mean, every single one
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Speaker 1: of them, and write them on a piece of paper.
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Speaker 1: I feel like this movie tried to do every single
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Speaker 1: one of them. And one thing we often see is
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Speaker 1: we have the niece or nephew character being mistaken for
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Speaker 1: the child of the main character. And of course that
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Speaker 1: happened here, and it took not very long. Was resolved
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Speaker 1: in the hospital. All Right, we're going to move in
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Speaker 1: to what is going to be the bulk of the
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Speaker 1: podcast for this particular movie, and that is this little
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Speaker 1: segment we like to call did you see that? When
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Speaker 1: we talk about questions, we have moments that really stood
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Speaker 1: out us and potentially some plot holes. I have so
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Speaker 1: much to say.
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Speaker 2: Okay, kick it off.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with. I watched this movie with my husband,
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Speaker 1: and the number of children she had in her classroom
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Speaker 1: was nine.
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Speaker 2: Oh was it? I didn't even notice that. Ah, oh,
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Speaker 2: that's funny.
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Speaker 3: That was that.
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Speaker 1: Second grade classroom, not like preschool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene actually made me really sad considering the
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty school year that we're in right now and
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Speaker 2: kids missing out on that like holiday excitement and the
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Speaker 2: things you do within your classroom. I was feeling a
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Speaker 2: little melancholy about that. But yes, I did not realize
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Speaker 2: she had nine students in her classroom.
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Speaker 1: Well, and there was some continuity issues because with the
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Speaker 1: number of kids, because later on, when they go to
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Speaker 1: the general, the commander, I didn't actually write down her ring.
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Speaker 2: The kernel, the colonel, the current Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, she's when they're trying to sell them their
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Speaker 1: idea for this holiday plan. She says, how many kids
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Speaker 1: are we dealing with? And they said they have nine
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Speaker 1: permanently enrolled, nine in what the base school? And oh,
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Speaker 1: I numbers don't add up for me.
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Speaker 2: See, I didn't realize that she was a teacher on
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Speaker 2: the base. I just thought they were she was a
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Speaker 2: teacher separately, and then she volunteered at the base and
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Speaker 2: there was nine children enrolled there. Does that make sense?
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Speaker 1: A little confusion, well, a little bit of confusion, And
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Speaker 1: you could be right. The only reason I think they're
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Speaker 1: talking about her classroom is because she had read in
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Speaker 1: her classroom in the beginning, and he's one of the children.
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Speaker 1: He's obviously kind of the main focus, and certainly his
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Speaker 1: father would have been involved in this big surprise they
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Speaker 1: were planning. So that leads me to believe that her
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Speaker 1: classroom is on the base. I agree that that was
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Speaker 1: not me. It's super clear.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't because it did show when Maggie and her
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Speaker 2: daughter were going to and I don't know what it
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Speaker 2: was like, am it's not a YMCA, but what was
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Speaker 2: that called? What was that?
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Speaker 1: Well? At one point, so this is what I thought.
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Speaker 1: This was so confusing They had this basically like week
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Speaker 1: long holiday party setup situation happening, and all of the
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Speaker 1: kids were there, and they had like gingerbread house decorating,
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Speaker 1: an ornament making, and at one point I think they
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Speaker 1: referred to it as like a winter camp. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't care. Yeah, but they didn't make that
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Speaker 1: super clear that that's what was happening. It just looked
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Speaker 1: like we're getting ready for the party and we kind
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Speaker 1: of have these activities happening in the background for the kids.
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Speaker 2: Got it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like, again that was not made super clear. Okay,
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Speaker 1: can you tell me the text message you sent to
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Speaker 1: me last night?
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Speaker 2: Yes, all caps? I sent meg and a text message
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Speaker 2: right soon after I started this movie yesterday all caps.
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Speaker 2: It reads, he got clotheslined by a four foot Christmas
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Speaker 2: tree and now has a concussion and a broken wrist,
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Speaker 2: a million question marks.
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Speaker 1: And he needed to stay in the hospital overnight and
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Speaker 1: apparently he needed surgery and follow up appointment.
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Speaker 2: And was not allowed to fly. No listen, as someone
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Speaker 2: who has broken their arm within the last eighteen months,
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Speaker 2: I can tell you that your arm is fixed. After
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Speaker 2: you have surgery, you can basically go about your life. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you don't stay in the hospital for it, even for
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Speaker 2: a concussion. I don't think you stay in the hospital.
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Speaker 2: But he got hit by the tip of a four
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Speaker 2: foot real Christmas tree.
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Speaker 1: I really was trying to make this make sense in
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Speaker 1: my mind, and I was thinking, like, maybe if he
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Speaker 1: hit his ground head on the concrete as he fell.
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Speaker 1: I didn't buy it.
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Speaker 2: Here's the other problem I had with this whole scene.
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Speaker 2: After he got hit by the Christmas tree, she goes, oh,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, I hit the dad in the Christmas sweater.
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Speaker 2: How did she know it was the same guy. He
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Speaker 2: didn't have the Christmas sweater on, they didn't have.
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Speaker 1: Still wearing his same face.
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Speaker 2: Really, i'd I, maybe it's me. But I don't know
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Speaker 2: if I would have had like a memory in a
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Speaker 2: moment of chaos like that, remembering a person who I
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Speaker 2: met two minutes for two minutes.
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Speaker 1: No, I probably wouldn't have either. But of course they're
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Speaker 1: trying to sell the love story arc.
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Speaker 2: H Okay, I might not. Okay, go ahead, No.
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Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent I wouldn't. I have a terrible memory.
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Speaker 1: I would not have realized that's who it was right away.
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Speaker 1: But speaking of the Christmas sweater, it is the year
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Christmas sweaters are ubiquitous Christmas. Ugly Christmas sweater
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Speaker 1: parties are happening right and left. You can buy them
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Speaker 1: in every big box retailer. There are holiday cards themed
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Speaker 1: after ugly Christmas waters. The ugly Christmas water is not
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Speaker 1: a new thing. And the fact that Maggie Ashley Williams's
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Speaker 1: character kept going on and on about how ugly his
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Speaker 1: sweater was and how she couldn't believe he would wear
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Speaker 1: it was not a believable storyline for me.
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Speaker 2: Right, So she's really putting this ugly Christmas sweater on
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Speaker 2: as his That's who his character is, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean? Like, uh, he wore an ugly Christmas sweater,
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Speaker 2: How good of a person can he be? Or whatever?
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Speaker 2: She didn't find him attractive because he wore an ugly christmaswater. Now,
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Speaker 2: if Tyler Hines wore an ugly christmaswater, I think she
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Speaker 2: might have had different words to say.
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Speaker 1: Well, and he has to explain it away, has to
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, what you didn't see is my nephew
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Speaker 1: had a matching sweater and oh, my brother and sister
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Speaker 1: in law are having an ugly Christmas water party. We don't.
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Speaker 1: We don't need the explanation. We understand. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: have not been living under a rock.
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Speaker 2: Ugly Christmas waters are a thing. Well, this is where
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Speaker 2: I feel like they came up with a title and
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Speaker 2: then they wrote the movie around this title. Do you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? Because the title I thought was
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Speaker 2: really misleading because it was really one or two scenes
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Speaker 2: about this Christmas sweater. It had nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: the movie overall. They should have made it had like
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Speaker 2: the title should have been something to do with like
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Speaker 2: the gingerbread house or I don't know, not Christmas sweater.
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Speaker 1: The movie had nothing to do with the movie overall.
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Speaker 1: This suffers from the same problem that a movie we
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed on the twelfth date of Christmas also suffered from,
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Speaker 1: and that is too many plot lines. We have she clotheslines,
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Speaker 1: this guy feels personally responsible for him, allows him to
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Speaker 1: live in her guest house.
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Speaker 2: We have Can we talk about the guest house for
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Speaker 2: a second. Okay, wait, we can talk about the guest house.
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Speaker 2: Continue on to what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we have single mom who is all alone on Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Lucas's character who is disillusioned with his job and isn't
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Speaker 1: sure that he wants to go back to it and
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Speaker 1: doesn't really want doesn't really know what he wants to
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Speaker 1: do with his career. We have these military families who
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Speaker 1: are away from their you know, the children who are
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Speaker 1: away from their parents at Christmas. We have this gingerbread
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Speaker 1: house building, which of course ties into that.
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Speaker 2: Oh, she was a painter who or she wanted to
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Speaker 2: paint her passions.
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Speaker 1: She had ignored her passions because she had been focusing
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Speaker 1: on her family. Okay, I have so many things to
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Speaker 1: say about so many of those plot lines, but go
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Speaker 1: back to what you were going to talk about.
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Speaker 2: This is where I'm really confused. First of all, she
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Speaker 2: felt personally responsible, Like would you have gone to a hospital,
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Speaker 2: Megan and be okay with somebody that you hit with
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Speaker 2: their Christmas tree.
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Speaker 1: I could believe her maybe going to the hospital because
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Speaker 1: he was unconscious, he was alone. She felt responsible, But
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Speaker 1: it was an accident, and I felt like once they
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Speaker 1: figured out who he was and contacted his family, her
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Speaker 1: responsibility is over. She didn't. I did not feel like
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Speaker 1: she was hugely at fault. I feel like it was
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Speaker 1: a genuine accident. She wasn't being especially careless. Bad things happen.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on with our lives. I did not feel
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Speaker 1: like she was she was required to provide him with
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Speaker 1: a place to stay.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's my next question. Why isn't he saying at
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Speaker 2: the brother's house or friend his best friend's house.
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Speaker 1: And why are the brother and the best friend so
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Speaker 1: weazy to go on? Like, sure, go move into this
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Speaker 1: home of this stranger. By the way, he's sleeping on
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Speaker 1: a poll out couch. It's not like she even has
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Speaker 1: a bed there for him, So it's not like you're
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Speaker 1: gonna be so comfortable. He could sleep on the couch
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Speaker 1: of any of these families.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he was kind of a jerk, So I
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Speaker 2: don't know if I'd be like, sure, I'm sleeping on
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Speaker 2: my extra bedroom or in my studio apartment or whatever,
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Speaker 2: like no, no, no, I would never let a stranger.
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Speaker 2: I don't care if it is Christmas or not. You're
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Speaker 2: not gonna let a stranger stay in your home. I've
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Speaker 2: watched too many Lifetime movies.
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Speaker 1: I agree. I did not feel like she needed to
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Speaker 1: offer him, particularly given the number of people he had
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Speaker 1: right there in town.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so it was never explained though, right, Like it
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Speaker 2: was never explained why he didn't stay at the best
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Speaker 2: friend or the brother's house.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible that I wasn't paying clothes enough attention.
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Speaker 2: Because I was really confused.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they probably didn't explain it,
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Speaker 1: because did we ever find out why they got divorced?
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Speaker 2: He I just think because he was a workaholic. I
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Speaker 2: thought that was the reason why.
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Speaker 1: And then he gets remarried right away, Yeah, because he
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Speaker 1: needs someone else to take care of him.
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Speaker 2: Gross.
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Speaker 1: And you know, of course they get along so well
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Speaker 1: and they're all so kind to each other, and the
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Speaker 1: husband did kind of like bump on the fact that
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Speaker 1: there was, oh, a new handsome renter in.
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Speaker 2: It's just weird.
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Speaker 1: I have another issue with this movie, okay, and that
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Speaker 1: is why did it take them a full week to
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Speaker 1: think about the idea of doing a video chat? Seriously,
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Speaker 1: it is twenty twenty, and even if the pandemic does
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Speaker 1: not exist, certainly these families are facetiming and video chatting
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Speaker 1: with their soldiers overseas. And I understand, I'm sure it
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Speaker 1: takes some coordination, but this is not like, did not
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Speaker 1: require the level of coordination.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to stop the kernel on the steps
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Speaker 2: of the building that she's entering and try to like
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Speaker 2: pitch your idea to her.
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Speaker 1: Like what what you're telling me again that in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty the base has not already made plans for these
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Speaker 1: families to somehow have contact on Christmas Day. No, this
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Speaker 1: is not coming down to the eleventh hour. They do
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Speaker 1: this every year. There is a plan in place, They've
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Speaker 1: got something going. This is not new.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one part of the movie they were
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Speaker 2: talking about sending out gingerbread stuff to the military and
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Speaker 2: they're like, oh, that might be hard to coordinate. And
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Speaker 2: she's like, the military can get things anywhere. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, you're talking like three days before this event.
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Speaker 2: The military is gonna what drop ship gingerbread kits to
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Speaker 2: these fans.
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Speaker 1: Out what Yeah, and the military can get like key
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Speaker 1: supplies to soldiers in the field. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: gingerbread houses qualify as something that requires rush shipping on
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Speaker 1: the part of the United States military.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so dumb.
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Speaker 1: I think maybe there was an attempt to build up
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Speaker 1: the military as like this positive force, and I don't
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Speaker 1: think that was necessary, right, Like, I think everyone can
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Speaker 1: get behind the idea of supporting military families during the holidays.
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Speaker 1: He did not need like the military is awesome messaging.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's already there. And I also
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Speaker 1: don't think like the military is better than the postal service.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that was the message
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Speaker 1: we needed to send it home.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I have a couple of other little things
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Speaker 2: that bothered me. Yes, he gave her tickets to Paris
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Speaker 2: after knowing her for five days.
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Speaker 1: I mean, really, did he give her two or did
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Speaker 1: he give her three? Are they all going together?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I was confused about that too, Like
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Speaker 2: I was like, is she taking the daughter or is
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Speaker 2: she taking the new boyfriend? What's happening here? They didn't
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Speaker 2: explain it.
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Speaker 1: They didn't explain it. And when she's looking for the book,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've got this like small town bookseller
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Speaker 1: hunting it down. My husband watched this movie with me,
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Speaker 1: and my husband is not an internet guy, like he
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Speaker 1: likes in store shopping. But even he was like, go
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Speaker 1: on Amazon, someone's reselling that book.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: She's like, I went on this new fangled site called eBay, Like,
20:20
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is like the movie that is
20:23
Speaker 1: made for people that have never heard of the internet.
20:27
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I just I hated this movie so much,
20:33
Speaker 2: so much. If Ashley Williams is a is a Hallmark
20:37
Speaker 2: Christmas movie, Darlene, why is she in such a terrible movie?
20:41
Speaker 1: That's a great question. And I really wonder about the
20:45
Speaker 1: logistics of creating these movies in twenty twenty, because I
20:49
Speaker 1: know that they had some limitations and most of them
20:51
Speaker 1: are filmed in Canada, where filming was allowed earlier. So
20:56
Speaker 1: a lot of these actors and actresses went to Canada
20:58
Speaker 1: and they had quarantine for fourteen days and then they
21:00
Speaker 1: were able to film these movies. But I wonder if
21:02
Speaker 1: it was I don't know, just a timing thing, like hey,
21:06
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is all we got.
21:09
Speaker 2: Maybe that's yeah, I don't know, because I have some
21:13
Speaker 2: self respect because this was terrible, terrible.
21:18
Speaker 1: So, like I said, my husband watched this movie with me,
21:21
Speaker 1: and so he at the end, as I was taking
21:24
Speaker 1: my notes, he was like, you better not be knocking
21:27
Speaker 1: my Hallmark movies. And I was like, hey, I gotta
21:30
Speaker 1: tell it like it is. But to his when they're
21:34
Speaker 1: having the snowball fight and she throws the snowball at him,
21:37
Speaker 1: he goes, she breaks his arm and then throws shit
21:39
Speaker 1: at him. And then a few minutes later and she's like,
21:45
Speaker 1: and now she's putting his ass to work. She is
21:50
Speaker 1: not feeling sorry for him anymore, and she has made
21:53
Speaker 1: him her bitch.
21:57
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you, because he watches a lot
21:59
Speaker 2: of these movies, where does this movie fall for him?
22:02
Speaker 2: And all the ones that he has seen, like, does
22:04
Speaker 2: he say, oh, that was not that good or well?
22:08
Speaker 1: He will never he's.
22:11
Speaker 2: Just a stand huh he.
22:12
Speaker 1: Is, and he won't like say like, oh that one't
22:15
Speaker 1: wasn't as good, like and I am like, well that
22:18
Speaker 1: one didn't really hold up. He's like, you need to
22:19
Speaker 1: have a little respect. But he will have moments throughout
22:25
Speaker 1: the movies that he doesn't believe, like one thing I
22:30
Speaker 1: hate is the oh we've got a little bit of
22:33
Speaker 1: the missed communication and then like the.
22:36
Speaker 2: Hygiene, Yes, I hate that too, And she got all
22:38
Speaker 2: pissed at the end.
22:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like she jumped to conclusions. So he was
22:42
Speaker 1: like her jumpy ass had just spoken to him, we
22:45
Speaker 1: would not have his problem.
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, just say hey, I overheard this, what's what's the deal?
22:50
Speaker 2: Like she flipped out like he like tried to grab
22:53
Speaker 2: her hand or something like take that way. Yeah, I'm like,
22:56
Speaker 2: stop it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're that upset about it, and it's
23:00
Speaker 1: worth I understand, like it's new and you know, were
23:04
Speaker 1: this real life having known someone for five days and
23:07
Speaker 1: then they go back to their actual job, that's to
23:10
Speaker 1: be expected. But if your feelings are so strong that
23:12
Speaker 1: you're not upset about it, have the conversation. And one
23:17
Speaker 1: thing I noticed is that typically we don't get the
23:20
Speaker 1: kiss until the very end of the movie. So when
23:22
Speaker 1: we have an early kiss, that's a bright red flag
23:26
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some sort of conflict. We're not
23:29
Speaker 1: just like on the downhill slope to a happy ending.
23:31
Speaker 1: There's going to be something coming in that's gonna throw
23:35
Speaker 1: a wrench in the works. And of course we got
23:36
Speaker 1: that in the form of the miscommunication and jumping to conclusions.
23:42
Speaker 1: What I did like their sleigh ride. That is the
23:47
Speaker 1: one moment in the movie where I started to root
23:50
Speaker 1: for them.
23:51
Speaker 2: I disagree. Yeah, they had their kiss on there and
23:55
Speaker 2: it was like so not romantic to me, like there
23:59
Speaker 2: was no passion behind it.
24:02
Speaker 3: I just.
24:04
Speaker 2: I don't know, it looked fake, like the hole like
24:07
Speaker 2: riding in the sleigh ride horse and carriage buggy situation.
24:12
Speaker 2: It looked like green screen. It just looked fake to me.
24:15
Speaker 2: I hated all of it. And then she like puts
24:17
Speaker 2: her head on his shoulder. I was like, gag me
24:20
Speaker 2: with a candy cane.
24:23
Speaker 1: I think I really wanted to believe in them at
24:26
Speaker 1: that moment, Like I was just looking for something that
24:29
Speaker 1: was gonna draw me in because I was not rooting
24:32
Speaker 1: for them, so I was I was really wanting that
24:38
Speaker 1: to be that moment. So I let it take me away.
24:41
Speaker 1: But I agree with everything that he said.
24:43
Speaker 2: Okay, so then if I could lead into what we
24:45
Speaker 2: wished for mine obviously would be more chemistry between the
24:51
Speaker 2: two lead characters. I just thought he was such a dud.
24:54
Speaker 2: There was nothing like likable about him.
24:57
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I agree, I did not. I do
25:01
Speaker 1: wish that there was more chemistry. I didn't feel it
25:04
Speaker 1: except when I was like forcing it. I also wish
25:08
Speaker 1: that this movie had the scripts had a better editor
25:11
Speaker 1: who looked at this and said, you guys are all
25:14
Speaker 1: over the place. You need to like zero in right focus.
25:18
Speaker 2: Can you think of one movie that has eight storylines
25:21
Speaker 2: going in it?
25:23
Speaker 1: No?
25:23
Speaker 2: Right, like one good movie that you really loved, did
25:27
Speaker 2: it have eight storylines.
25:29
Speaker 1: Well, and I think these Hallmark movies do this a
25:31
Speaker 1: lot because the reality is their main plot line is
25:35
Speaker 1: pretty weak, right, It's like girl hits guy with Christmas tree,
25:40
Speaker 1: and then you gotta add in seventeen other plot lines
25:43
Speaker 1: in order to make this a two hour movie, because
25:45
Speaker 1: that's not a story.
25:48
Speaker 2: I think we should take to writing Hallmark scripts because.
25:53
Speaker 1: And also that is my husband's dream. He's like, we
25:56
Speaker 1: need to retire on Hallmark movie writing and I was like,
26:00
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a retirement in that. Tell them
26:03
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26:06
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26:09
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Speaker 3: Bye bye,