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Erin-Clare | The Christian Reeve Podcast #182 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian re
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  podcast. Today's guest is a professional
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  flute player from Las Vegas. Very, very cool to have are in
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  clear on the show. How you doing?
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  I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having me.
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  Oh, the pleasure is mine Pleasures?
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  Mine! I've been looking forward to
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  this for a while. But before just, before we get
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  into you and everything about you, we were talking off-camera
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  about the types of work we do. I've just come off a ship.
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  Shift today and I'm feeling like are and I got do another podcast
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  tomorrow before I go to work. So life is a bit of a blur for
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  me. But what kind of work are you
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  doing for? So right now I actually have a
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  little hospitality and tourism internship going on that.
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  I'm training for. I just started out here in
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  Vegas, so currently working front desk.
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  So I've been training for that been doing.
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  We do like a week on each shift, so the morning shift the swing
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  shift. Afternoon shift and then, of
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  course, the graveyard shift. So I've just finished my
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  training this morning, I worked just work, 10 days in a row
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  first five were, what was it 2 p.m. to 10 p.m.?
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  And then I went straight into 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. for five days.
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  So, yes, I am very much blue as well.
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  We'd like, I got back into customer service stuff for the
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  first time in five years, the other day.
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  Now, one part of all the other day, August, or August.
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  Yeah, it's getting to me and I don't know, I don't know what to
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  make of it, really. I mean it's the work is easy as
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  fine. Whatever its minimum wage.
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  It is what it is. You gotta do what you gotta do
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  but it's weird to go back into it after, you know, being out of
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  it. But you know, I don't know, I
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  thought I suppose it all depends on your perspective by one thing
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  I've noticed. But coming back into it is that
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  my attitude when I was younger was like somewhat somewhat quite
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  lazy, like not like lazy, in the sense that I Cara, didn't try,
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  but lazy in the sense that like, I don't know, I really had to
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  like force myself to go in whereas now I'm kind of just
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  like yeah I do it whatever. And then as soon as I get to do
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  stuff that really matters like this, I'm like, okay and I throw
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  myself into it but I was literally like rushing to get
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  back today. I was just like, come on, come
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  on, the cat down. She's you just got to make it
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  that I totally agree. Like It is an internship and
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  it's like professional and everything like that.
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  But to me, I mean, my heart is in it as much as I can.
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  But of course, like I put my heart into my music and I think
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  it's good to have a little dig day job, so you're not
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  completely relying on your music.
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  And like, eventually I would like to do that.
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  Of course, that is the main goal, but not making it, it
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  doesn't make it as much of a chore, you know.
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  So but customer service in hospitality is It'll get to you
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  because people are in vacation mode.
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  They're not listening to you, they'll yell at you and you just
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  got to take it. So prescript perspective is it's
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  good though. It's good to not judge.
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  It's like learning to not judge people, you know?
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  Because you don't know what they've been through, you know?
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  See this is where I disagree with you, because I'll tell you
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  why. So, why I get where you're
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  coming from? And I do bite my lip and try to
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  just by pointing little bubble butt.
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  That's something very different. I bite my tongue.
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  I'm embarrassed now. All right.
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  This is why. I mean, you come straight off a
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  shift in your mind as soon as you said it.
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  I was like that's it. Let's just let him go the time
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  and just deal with it. But when you said they're like,
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  about being on vacation mode like, I don't know, man.
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  Like I've had everything from people throwing like - words
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  shouting doing the clicking thing I do.
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  And it's like, you know, even before I worked in customer
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  services, I never would have dreamt of speaking to people,
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  the way that I've been spoken to, or been treated.
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  Like, I just can't imagine treating another human being
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  like that. Let alone in the service
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  industry, like I don't know. It just rubs me the wrong way.
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  It's I agree. But I put you in perspective in
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  Kind of makes you wonder like you know, because sometimes you
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  can, you don't really realize how you talk to people and it
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  kind of like once you're in that position, not that I felt like
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  I've ever been mean to a service person but just to like, you
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  really start to appreciate other people when you go on vacation,
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  or you go to a restaurant, or you go to a store and stuff like
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  that, it's just kind of given them like, hey, thanks for doing
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  what you do. I know that this is the last
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  thing you want to be doing right now, and I really We appreciate
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  you being here, you know so yeah it's a good prescript
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  perspective, kind of thing, you know.
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  But yeah, I agree that sense like a there it has taught me to
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  be a lot more patient when it comes to getting things.
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  I'll say that much but then it's also taught me to be a bit
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  snobby as well bear with me. So when it comes to things like
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  the presentation of things and how things are delivered and so
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  I always specially like when promises are made and then
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  they're broken and stuff like that.
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  Like That's where I get a bit iffy because I'm like well, if
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  that would be doing that, that will be done right now.
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  You know, and if not they will be like heavy apologies and then
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  moving on to like trying to fix that and I've been in situations
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  where I've been with the on the other end of receiving that
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  service and it's like mmmm, I don't know but then I don't know
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  a lot of things can happen at once and sometimes it is just
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  unmanageable. Plus, it's the crazy thing is as
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  well as that like you don't always have Management involved
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  in the situation, like, I'm lucky in the position, I'm in
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  right now, management is great and everything, but when it
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  comes to most of the places, I've worked with so many times,
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  when it's been like, well, I'm gonna go do this, you're right
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  here, right? And it's like, you're dealing
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  with like, 300 people and you're like, yeah, fuck, yeah, where
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  I'm at right now as well, everybody.
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  They make it quite clear that they'll have your back and
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  that's one thing. That I love because like I like
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  I said, I've only been doing three weeks here and I've
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  already had situations where a guest is just rude to me and I'm
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  training. I'm like new trying to get on my
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  own and the people at like I said, front desk.
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  So there's people next to me that our experience have been
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  there for years or at least a year, you know, and they'll be
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  like sir, please, she's training, she's new, you really
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  don't have to talk to her that way like They will immediately
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  have your back and I as soon as I feel comfortable, I'll be
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  doing the same thing, you know. So I feel really comfortable and
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  really kind of taking care of here and this, in this job.
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  So that's why I 10 days. Nah, I don't even care if I had
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  a good time with good people, you know, that's how it should
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  be the same where I'm like, right now is Good Vibes.
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  I'm a little bit older than everyone so I'm like 29,
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  everyone else is kind of like 20 21.
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  It's interesting like They rule in the right headspace, which
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  makes it more of a fun. Enjoyable place to be right now,
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  is this your first position like or have you had other jobs
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  brightest or I have had other jobs?
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  So I would say that my first like real job was at a roller
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  rink my freshman year of college.
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  Damn. Yes.
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  So that was fun but I talked about craziness that you had to
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  deal with but I worked a couple of like I obviously I majored in
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  music performance. So during like the fall season
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  football season is packed tight with rehearsals.
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  So I really could only get a job in the spring semester and in
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  the summer and I would move home for the Summer.
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  So I kind of had like semester jobs.
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  So just a couple like, odd jobs here and there, but after I
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  graduated college, I worked at Disney World for seven months.
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  I did a Disney college program and then I moved home after my
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  program, ended worked on a little Boutique at the beach
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  where I'm from in Florida and then this out here.
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  So I feel like I feel like this is my first big girl job because
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  I was surrounded like you said, you're Founded by like you're
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  like the oldest one. I'm one of the younger ones in
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  this like executive type, you know, Vibe and everything.
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  So I feel it. Also, you can tell the tone in
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  everything because I've worked at jobs with, like, younger
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  people, or people my age, and it's like, it's a crap show, you
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  know, but here like I would talk to my trainers like hey, is
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  there anybody like that? I need to like, look out for
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  like, who's the snake here, you know?
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  I need to steer clear of and they're like, no, nobody.
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  We all like, hang out. And like, seriously, all these
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  people are adults there, they got there there, big girl pants
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  on and they're not really here for the drama and they're just
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  having a good time and so I just feel so, like, it's almost too
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  good to be true. You know, it's not just too good
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  to be true, but I'm just like, wow, everybody's actually an
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  adult here. Like that's, that's crazy,
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  that's insane. I've never seen that before.
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  Or so I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it.
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  But yeah, a couple other jobs from here and there but this one
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  so far I'd I'm like, it's difficult.
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  It's challenging, but I do enjoy it.
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  I know exactly what you mean when you say that.
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  Like it was, I mean, I kind of just came into this particular
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  job like, so I'll give you a bit of context and for those who
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  already know, I'm sorry, I'm repeating it but it's like I
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  came into this basically. I was doing like a few freelance
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  jobs in marketing, that's like my are special.
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  And and to fully pursue acting and things like podcasting and
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  everything else that I'm trying to do in my life.
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  I realized like I have to be freelance or, you know, Zero
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  Hour something like to that effect so that I have like the
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  ability to chop and change and you know, basically flexibility.
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  But with that comes certain sacrifices and that meant going
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  back into customer services. And you know, I was a bit
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  nervous to be honest to go back into it and also because of the
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  same things that you just raised.
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  Like my experience is all have always been both in corporate
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  and in customer services just like yeah same thing.
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  Who do I avoid? What will that this?
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  What about that? But yeah, I get none of that in
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  this place and it's nice. It's really and it's fun, I
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  don't know. Like it's I will say this, any
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  City that you're growing up in that, you should have like fun
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  work. That's befitting.
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  Acted, like your age and you should go out and you should
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  want to go out or your work colleagues and stuff like It's
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  bad. Like this bar job of just
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  started, if anything, it's just encouraged me to drink more.
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  I'm trying to channel that. Take care of myself.
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  Go to. Yeah.
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  That's what, like, if this is like a Vegas, like everybody's
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  like going out to the clubs and like, and I'm like, you guys are
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  like 30 years old. What are you?
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  What are you guys acting like, freaking.
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  You just turned 21, but I'm down with it.
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  I'm so down with it. It's crazy for some people, it's
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  like a blow off and for other people they have different
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  attitude. Like remember I met a guy when I
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  was living in Europe? Who described?
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  His 30s as like his second 20s. Okay, fair enough.
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  He didn't have he didn't have like kids, yeah or anything.
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  So I think that does change things and also my instance.
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  Yeah. Single that have kids don't have
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  anything like that. So there is maximum kind of
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  flexibility to do those things but at the same time, it is, you
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  are older and you do have to be more responsible and it's weird.
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  I don't know what to make of. I mean, what do you really do?
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  You want to file into the Confines, the society pushes on
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  us. I know that's so hippy-dippy but
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  really you know like the timeline.
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  It doesn't have to be what everybody says it has to be.
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  That's what I kind of try to tell people like how I have like
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  The Nomad Gypsy Spirit. I'm like, yeah, I wanna like I
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  don't really ever want to settle down in one place unless it's
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  like one place that I fall in love with like how can you
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  choose where you want to be if you haven't been everywhere yet,
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  you know and people are so In a hurry.
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  And I feel like my friends are going to listen to this and
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  think I'm calling them out. And if it works for them, it
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  works for them. But I feel like a lot of people
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  are so in a hurry to settle down and I know that there's comfort
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  in that for a lot of people, I I'm not comfortable with that so
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  it and I don't think if it's if you're not comfortable with it,
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  don't do it, you know, like I just feel like you can do a lot
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  more than what like is kind of pushed on you in school.
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  All and movies. Like you know, because the
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  lifestyle of being born going to school, getting education, get a
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  job, get married, have a kid and then die, pretty much.
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  And let your kid do the same thing and then just, you know,
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  grow old or whatever. I don't know.
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  It was maybe eventually it'll appeal to me, but right now, not
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  so much. No, I totally.
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  I'm right there with you on that.
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  I think when I was a lot younger and I was like a teenager like I
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  had this idea in my head that oh I should probably you know
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  follow what society says and do all this stuff you know.
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  But I didn't want to buy felt like all I suppose, that's the
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  right thing to do and then I just realized steadily over time
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  that like I just can't be happy doing that.
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  And so and in like as much as it's kind of scary to do
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  unconventional like that live in an unconventional way, It was a
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  very exciting and because you really don't know what the next
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  step is like, you don't know where the winds going to take
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  you like. Yeah, it's all about the life
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  that's going to make you happy and you just kind of make it,
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  you have to make it work for yourself, you know.
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  I mean like I can't be a like a rockstar flute player with a 9
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  to 5 it's just not how it's got you know.
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  Yeah maybe we can work for you, you got to make it work for you.
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  Very true. Very true, right?
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  So we've had a bit of a chance to like, talk about work.
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  I don't know why I did. It was fun, I guess.
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  Yeah, we both just pretty much. I got off a few hours ago as
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  well. So yeah, pretty much, yeah.
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  Oh my God. I'd say, yeah.
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  Sorry for anyone. That's like, why is he talking
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  about work? This is so boring.
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  I guess. I like talking about it.
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  Everybody works pretty much. So this is example, this is
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  something I do like when people are chasing their dreams and
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  their balancing like a 9 to 5 because I noticed I get this
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  question a lot. And I do live streams.
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  People will say things like, oh, what do you do for work?
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  Like what you do for a living? And I'm like, why do you care?
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  Like its? I mean, I'll talk about it.
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  And there are some interesting things like I work at a bar.
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  So it's, you know, there are fun stories.
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  It's not only, I'm sure. Oh yeah, forget done for us.
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  But at the same time it's like, you know, it's not what I want
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  to do and it's not what I'm enjoy talking about Eva.
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  It's kind of yeah. Love like this.
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  I love you know for instance with the podcast and I said it a
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  million times but like every single time I do this show is
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  different, you know, be it a different person, a different
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  topic, you know, I get something from it, my viewers, get
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  something from, It's Always different and that to me is just
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  mind-blowing and never stops being interested, but it's like
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  the, but the bar can be like either really busy sometimes
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  fun, sometimes really boring Like it just like, so I've got
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  like at times. I'm at the bar and I'm just
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  sitting there. Like, what am I doing with my
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  life, literally? I'm just like I should be out
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  there performing and doing these things.
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  I love. But instead, I'm in this place.
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  All right? Anyway we're working to get, we
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  work in the get out of that. Exactly.
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  Yeah. It just is just to pay the
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  bills. This is just the get your gear
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  to in like your dream pedalboard.
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  Your dream gears, you know, that's It's for let's hope a 38.
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  Oh my God. It does.
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  It does. Actually speaking of which,
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  before I get into, let your musical Journey like talk us
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  through that the cost of like a professional flutes.
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  What's that like? Yeah.
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  I--'cause I recently just, you know, I just moved across the
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  country and I'm trying to get everything together and I'm in
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  the process of like, making all this new music.
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  And I'm like, I decided to release like or launch a patreon
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  and everything like that. I'm like, this is so much but
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  like flute. Maintenance can really, really
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  be a lot like a flute like a I don't want to see it.
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  Low end or a cheap but like a affordable reasonable
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  professional flute. You're going to look at like
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  fifteen to twenty-five hundred, you know.
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  Luckily I have one I had I got a scholarship out of high school
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  that I used to buy my like college-level flu and it'll last
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  you and everything but I mean I have a Pearl Flute, from the 70s
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  that I play outside. I have, you have to have
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  multiple flutes because you can't use your one flute for
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  everything. So, I have my outside flute, I
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  have my inside, flute. You got to think about like
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  photo shoots and video shoots, because if I just moved out here
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  and I don't know anybody. So I'm having to like usually I
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  have my friends come and help me, and I have some really good
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  photographer friends that I met in Disney that did like
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  PhotoPass at Disney so they they got me covered.
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  On that. But that's when I was in
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  Florida. Like, here I am having to kind
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  of fend for myself and then home studio.
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  Expenses are insane, you know microphones.
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  I just bought like the clip-on mic that you can put on your
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  flute when I'm not using that to record on my like this music
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  that I'm doing. I have like a USB mic and
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  everything and then I have like the sm57 I use guitar effect
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  pedals on my and effect pedals are yeah and pedals are The
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  funky crazy ones are, you know, of course, the most expensive
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  ones. But yeah, and they were damp
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  consider. They work in the same way that
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  they would for the guitar. Or do they store any way?
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  You know, it's been trial and error.
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  That's another thing is you gotta drop 300 like, 150, to 300
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  on a pedal that might not work, you know.
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  So you just gotta make sure that there's a return policy or you
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  can turn that thing around and Sell It Again.
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  Um, because I've definitely gone through that and a lot of like
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  local guitar shops will be like, oh yeah, bring your flute will
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  hook you up and we'll let you try it all out and everything.
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  So I've been fortunate enough to kind of fall into those
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  situations where I don't really have to waste my money but yeah
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  it's I don't want to say it, I don't know.
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  I mean, it's hard to compare the sound of a flute and a guitar
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  together, but I would say like the effect was like yeah, it
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  does kind of have the same. I'm the same kind of effect,
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  like a Reverb and delay. Pedal belongs on a flute.
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  Like yes, of course, it belongs on a guitar as well.
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  I'm not saying exclusively flu, but like really and then I have
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  the TalkBack by danelectro so it's like a reverse delay.
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  Hmm. That sounds insane on the flute,
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  you know, Reaver or not Reverb. I'm sorry, fuzz and Distortion.
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  That's kind of where I'm exploring right now.
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  So I'm like distortion. Making it sound like just real
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  gritty and nasty. So Usually pedals, right?
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  I actually don't right now. I don't I don't have a loop
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  pedal. I'm in the market for one.
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  Like I said, well, she have the day job, it's in the works.
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  Yes. But the reason I ask is like, do
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  you have plans? Because I also, I don't know,
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  like, your performance stuff. I know that you do perform live
• 20:45
  and stuff, but do you do you try or are you planning to sort of
• 20:49
  build your own kind of band thing?
• 20:52
  Like, as in one-woman show, or is it going to be like You know,
• 20:54
  you actually have a bad. Like, we're trying to do it,
• 20:56
  right? Right now, it's very much
• 20:59
  one-woman show like this, the single I have out right now and
• 21:03
  everything that I'm working on. I'm kind of using it.
• 21:07
  Or I don't want to say using, I'm kind of viewing.
• 21:10
  It more as like a discography resume like, hey, I did
• 21:16
  everything here. I'm a very versatile musician.
• 21:20
  This is what I can do. Let me know if you like it.
• 21:24
  Or not, you know, kind of thing when I play live.
• 21:31
  I will have usually like a backing track with me and then I
• 21:34
  just play on top of that. Okay, right now because I don't,
• 21:38
  I'm very meticulous. And, you know, I'm very
• 21:42
  meticulous and I want things done the way I want things done,
• 21:46
  and I know that that sounds kind of bratty, but I feel like
• 21:50
  everybody wants things done the way that they want things done.
• 21:53
  So, since the youth remorseful about that, but do you have any
• 21:58
  arguments with sound that it is? Yeah.
• 22:02
  When they'd start to tell me how to do, they don't, you know,
• 22:07
  because they don't know how to make Like a flu.
• 22:09
  They don't know what they're doing.
• 22:10
  I I hardly know what I'm doing. What kind of like talking to a
• 22:15
  sound guy? Yeah I'm like hey I guess let's
• 22:19
  figure it out and then the there's like a like a stagehand.
• 22:23
  That's like you have to get right up on the you have to
• 22:26
  write up on the mic or it's not going to work and I'm like sir
• 22:29
  or it's so funny and I know that you don't play the flu so you
• 22:32
  probably don't know but when they put the mic at the end of
• 22:35
  the flute, Hilarious. Number one comedy right there.
• 22:40
  If you put it right, where your mouth is because that's where
• 22:42
  like the sound resonates so it's just people don't know.
• 22:46
  Okay. Oh and then you like I'm a, I'm,
• 22:49
  you know, a lady. So I have to really prove myself
• 22:52
  that I know what I'm talking about.
• 22:54
  Oh, really? Still still that I thought.
• 22:57
  Yeah, I thought so too. I thought we'd be past that
• 23:01
  especially with like, these profound rock and roll women.
• 23:06
  That Our just mowing us all down left and right.
• 23:11
  You're gonna do think it's also because it's flute and it's like
• 23:14
  a, you know, foreign territory. But you know, what's this,
• 23:18
  what's the planet age demographic?
• 23:20
  You're dealing with when regards to like people have likes and
• 23:23
  engineer stuff like that. Generally are you just sounded
• 23:29
  like when were talking about like sound people would like
• 23:31
  older people write as good say because like when you say about,
• 23:34
  you have to prove yourself to people like immediately.
• 23:36
  I'm thinking. Yeah.
• 23:36
  They go. It's not but proving myself is
• 23:38
  not just to sound people. It's you'd be surprised.
• 23:42
  It's pretty much. I don't want to say like
• 23:44
  everybody but like it's a lot of people.
• 23:48
  It's a lot of people. There's like who was?
• 23:51
  What's the deal? Like I'm meet other musicians.
• 23:54
  And this is, this is not everybody.
• 23:57
  This is absolutely not everybody because you can I can tell like,
• 24:01
  oh my gosh, this person is awesome.
• 24:02
  If I say oh I'm using guitar, pedals on flute.
• 24:06
  Or. Oh, I love that or like I'm
• 24:09
  trying to like performer. Oh, I do this.
• 24:11
  Oh, I do that. And they're immediately like, oh
• 24:14
  that's interesting. Like tell me more.
• 24:16
  And then there's other people that are like, well, actually
• 24:20
  it's this, this this and this this and it's like, well
• 24:22
  actually it's not that like this is actually what it is.
• 24:27
  Just people that think that, they know a lot more.
• 24:29
  I'm trying not to be too explicit because I don't want to
• 24:32
  call people out specifically but Utah.
• 24:38
  And I'm not speaking for like all women's, I don't really
• 24:41
  know. But I know personally, it's been
• 24:43
  like It's been, it's an it annoys the crap out of me too,
• 24:48
  when I show up at a place and I'm like, yeah, I'm actually
• 24:51
  trying to be. I would love to be a famous rock
• 24:54
  and roll, flute player. Like I want to be in the rock
• 24:56
  and roll industry and they're like, hmm.
• 25:00
  Like you can't just that's not how it's going to work like, you
• 25:03
  know that, right. And I'm like, who says, you
• 25:06
  know, are there like, well, I'm trying to think of like what The
• 25:12
  other day I went out with my friend this is actually a
• 25:16
  specific story because it quite quite literally rubbed me the
• 25:21
  wrong way. Okay.
• 25:22
  And she was hanging out with like a group of guys and of
• 25:27
  course, I'm with her. So I'm hanging out with this
• 25:28
  group of guys and I guess the fact that I'm a musician, just
• 25:35
  kind of, like, seeps out of me. Like, it's my only personality
• 25:38
  trait I guess, who to cool man. Oh, thank you, thank you to this
• 25:50
  guy. I did rub.
• 25:52
  This guy was threatening this guy.
• 25:54
  I feel like, but he was apparently this.
• 25:57
  He says he like manages musicians.
• 26:00
  So I'm like, oh my God. Let's talk like, what are your
• 26:04
  rates? What like how do you like, what?
• 26:07
  I've never met somebody like that.
• 26:09
  That's like up-and-coming in that hole like that zone of the
• 26:15
  music industry and it was like primarily for like rap music.
• 26:19
  So I knew like I wasn't going to hire this guy, that's not really
• 26:23
  the direction where I'm going, but I was curious, you know,
• 26:26
  like cool. But he was like, yeah, I would
• 26:31
  charge you You and I could be, I could be completely ignorant to
• 26:35
  this. He was like, I would charge you
• 26:37
  215 bucks for or 250 bucks for a 15-minute set and I'm like, what
• 26:45
  do you mean? I'm like what sir?
• 26:48
  I have to pay you. 250 bucks to get booked for a 15-minute set
• 26:54
  like 15 and he's like, yeah, I'm like I call venues all the time
• 26:58
  and get booked for free and then they.
• 27:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:02
  Why would I need you? He's like well, if you want to
• 27:05
  get into these big venues and he started like a listing off like
• 27:07
  a bunch of venues and I was like, Okay, like I was just
• 27:11
  like, okay, like I'm like, I must not know Jack squat because
• 27:15
  I thought like managers and stuff were salary based, or at
• 27:20
  least like monthly base to, I take a couple.
• 27:24
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cut exactly.
• 27:27
  Because what would I get if I paid you, 250 bucks for and who
• 27:32
  wears a 15-minute set, you know, like that's quick in my opinion,
• 27:37
  you know, unless it's like a long.
• 27:39
  Line up and you're just like kind of like a writer's round or
• 27:43
  paper bag. Type deal paper bags out there.
• 27:47
  Universe looks like a paperback like paper bags.
• 27:50
  Like that's like a, it's kind of like a little mini line up, and
• 27:54
  you just like go and hang out and watch like a bunch of
• 27:56
  different like, oh, writers are musicians just kind of go around
• 28:00
  and go back and forth. I've heard him be called paper
• 28:03
  bags. I've just never heard that
• 28:05
  expression for that now. I'm now I'm second-guessing
• 28:08
  everything. No, no.
• 28:09
  No, no maybe assist Stateside thing.
• 28:11
  Like I just I don't know, I heard it in the UK but fair
• 28:14
  enough. I know, I know here in the UK
• 28:18
  that generally look a 15-minute set would, I've never seen it
• 28:22
  for like an official gig. I have seen it on like Open Mic
• 28:25
  nights. That's yeah, that's what I mean.
• 28:27
  Like paper bags are like open mic night.
• 28:29
  Oh yeah. Okay.
• 28:30
  It's very yeah, same kind of thing.
• 28:32
  You just kind of like go up and show your stuff and then you
• 28:35
  leave, you know? Yeah, absolutely. 15 minutes
• 28:37
  because you're not booked. Now, you just kind of show up
• 28:40
  and hang out our, you're on the roster, like you signed up in
• 28:44
  advance, you registered. But yeah, so I was confused by
• 28:47
  that guy, but it was. I and then I kind of he started
• 28:51
  like kind of talking down to me like, oh, you know, you're doing
• 28:56
  Hospitality, you know, you're like really in a good place for
• 28:58
  Hospitality, you know that, right?
• 29:00
  And I'm like, Las Vegas. Yeah, no duh.
• 29:02
  Like why do you think I'm here? And then I was like, you know,
• 29:06
  like you're ripping people off when you charge people that like
• 29:09
  musicians. Is that like you're really
• 29:10
  everything that's wrong with the music industry.
• 29:12
  You know that right. Ticked him off.
• 29:16
  He's like why don't you like me? I'm just being like me and I'm
• 29:20
  like, you're nasty and I don't like you.
• 29:23
  That's amazing. Which is what?
• 29:25
  Why don't you like me? Yeah.
• 29:26
  What are you like? Me.
• 29:27
  I'm just being nice to you. I'm like no you're not.
• 29:32
  What is insecure guy - that's and I think that is a lot of it
• 29:36
  is they see like an A confident in myself.
• 29:40
  I do. I do love myself.
• 29:42
  It's, you know, you gotta, but I show up and I know my stuff,
• 29:47
  John, if I don't, I'm willing to learn.
• 29:50
  Hmm. And I think that threatens a lot
• 29:52
  of people and I haven't, I haven't seen it in a lot of
• 29:56
  women. Like I haven't threatened a lot
• 29:58
  of other women yet, but I haven't really encountered a lot
• 30:01
  of women, but it's like a lot of dudes, like I just I roll up and
• 30:05
  up. I pissed him off for some
• 30:06
  reason. I don't know what it is but I
• 30:08
  do. I reckon.
• 30:10
  I know, because I've noticed this in certain guys.
• 30:13
  It's always insecure guys, like, they get like frightened by the
• 30:17
  idea of like a strong woman, but it's that old cliché isn't
• 30:21
  strong enough. Anyway.
• 30:24
  It's like what, what dude, what way does it bother you?
• 30:27
  You know. Yeah, this person has to work
• 30:30
  like 15 times harder than you. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Because of how Society works. It shouldn't work that way, but
• 30:36
  it's just like how it is. It's getting bad but it's So
• 30:40
  we're still working on it. I don't know as much as it is
• 30:43
  like working. I feel like I as a flute player
• 30:46
  have to work a little harder because like I said, earlier,
• 30:49
  foreign territory, I'm trying to push something that has rarely
• 30:53
  been done, you know? So in that sense, I feel like I
• 30:57
  have to take different approaches, but I don't know as
• 31:00
  much as like, it's working harder but it's just Like being
• 31:06
  viewed as, like, equal. Right off the bat, you know?
• 31:10
  That's okay. But we were talking about what?
• 31:12
  The plant, the long-term plans are.
• 31:14
  And I'm sorry, I would love to get picked up by a band, that's
• 31:17
  what I'm that was. That's kind of the okay.
• 31:19
  Yeah, long-term or like, that's kind of, I feel like that's more
• 31:24
  realistic is like, get picked up by a band, but like another kind
• 31:28
  of dream goal would be doing. Like being a feature artists
• 31:36
  almost like just kind of like being in a studio and featuring
• 31:39
  on a lot of different tracks like say that this band wanted a
• 31:44
  flute track I would go and I'd be like here let me lay it down
• 31:47
  for you and then I have like two other bands that also want me to
• 31:51
  lay down flute tracks for them. You know.
• 31:52
  So that kind of that would be super awesome.
• 31:56
  Soon as I saw that your flute player like other than just
• 32:01
  being enamored by that and also kind of your vibe.
• 32:04
  And install and stuff. Like I think the first thing
• 32:06
  that sort of came to me was then if you're familiar with this,
• 32:11
  this musician, think she's American possibly Canadian, they
• 32:15
  get things like Lindsey Stirling or stalinist, right?
• 32:19
  Yeah, do it. So, the reason I bring this up
• 32:22
  is obviously she, I think originally just did like, kind
• 32:25
  of like videos of her just playing, you know?
• 32:27
  I don't know Zelda theme or some shit.
• 32:29
  Yeah. And then she kind of started
• 32:31
  releasing her music and then it sort of Escalated to the point
• 32:35
  where she's now she's doing like tours and stuff like around.
• 32:37
  And she just like, featured on a Disney special, like a Disney
• 32:41
  World special, what she did, like the firework show live.
• 32:44
  She was the one that actually recorded for it and everything.
• 32:47
  Yeah, I do. I think she that's like the
• 32:49
  closest thing I can kind of relate to, as what kind of the
• 32:53
  goal is, this is why sinking ID, do you envision that, like you
• 32:56
  mentioned that it's kind of like non-conventional but there's has
• 33:02
  the there must be other famous. Just like successful,
• 33:05
  professional food players that you aspire to be like could you
• 33:08
  name some of them or like? Yeah, I I don't have like a I
• 33:15
  want to be like this person. Okay.
• 33:16
  Yeah. But of course Ian Anderson
• 33:20
  Jethro Tull you know and then I know a lot of people comment on
• 33:25
  my videos Liz. Oh, I don't consider lizzo like
• 33:29
  a like solidified flute player though.
• 33:32
  Like that's just kind of like a side thing.
• 33:34
  I know that she studied flute and everything.
• 33:35
  Yeah. I feel like when I talk about
• 33:38
  flute, like those are the three are the two that are Are you
• 33:42
  know, but Ian Anderson very Jazzy tone lizzo is a very crisp
• 33:47
  tone and she's very like Technical and like, flashy.
• 33:51
  I guess you could say with what had she just does like,
• 33:54
  hardcore, trills, you know this. So those two I'm a very like
• 33:58
  dreamy, vibey dreamy, creamy kind of vibe, but and Wilson the
• 34:03
  lead singer of Heart. She plays flute and she's a
• 34:06
  fabulous flute player. Shoot, of course, like there's
• 34:12
  like the famous flute players, like Sir James Galway, you know,
• 34:16
  Frances Doppler things like that, but I don't know.
• 34:20
  The Wrecking Crew is like a band there, like a little crew that
• 34:24
  used to feature on different tracks and like a lot of like
• 34:28
  Yacht Rock and like 70s, I'm pretty sure.
• 34:31
  So it's, there's, I have loads of Inspirations and things like
• 34:35
  that when it comes to instrumentalists.
• 34:40
  But like some like a explicitly. What I want to do, I haven't
• 34:46
  seen before. If that makes sense, I don't
• 34:50
  know. Again, I'm trying, I'm not
• 34:51
  trying to sound pretentious but I don't know because I feel like
• 34:57
  Ian Anderson was also like the singer as well.
• 35:01
  So and I I will sing. If the, if it's going to make or
• 35:06
  break the gig like, if it's like, you're not getting this
• 35:08
  gig. If you want saying I'll be like,
• 35:10
  okay, okay, I'll sing, you know, I can I'm not tone deaf, I can
• 35:14
  harmonize if I need to, I don't particularly care for my singing
• 35:18
  voice. Like, I don't think it's like a
• 35:19
  lead singer. It's like singing voice but but
• 35:24
  yeah, there's just, I would say those but think about like The
• 35:27
  Moody Blues, you know, they had a lot of flute.
• 35:30
  Like the, you know, how How I feel like I am all over the
• 35:35
  place with this conversation because I am sleep-deprived.
• 35:38
  But do you know the like that Rebirth of the Renaissance that
• 35:43
  happened in the 60s like fashion wise, and kind of like that
• 35:49
  whole era. Yeah.
• 35:52
  I feel like a rebirth of that rebirth would be awesome
• 35:57
  because, like 60s music and like early 70s was like there was
• 36:03
  just flutes on the track 100% of the time, you know.
• 36:06
  And then of course the mellotron came out which had the flute
• 36:12
  pre-recorded like one of the first like synthesizer kind of
• 36:16
  pre-recorded keyboards and everything, but I think feel
• 36:20
  like Right now, we could really use a rebirth like a refresher
• 36:27
  of that era of music that raw natural.
• 36:36
  Just I want to say Vibe but just like energy and their music, you
• 36:41
  know. I think we all getting them.
• 36:43
  I will say I've even had people on the show before who are like
• 36:47
  the fashion wise and music-wise? Yes, have been into like 67.
• 36:51
  His kind of music and increasingly, we're seeing more
• 36:54
  and more. It kind of makes sense because
• 36:56
  you know, for so long, we've been heavily commercialized as a
• 36:58
  society and people want for more than that, you know, it's like,
• 37:03
  like, how excited can you really be about 15 million iPhones
• 37:07
  doing this? Like, but that was always kind
• 37:09
  of a trap people, there will always be people that are
• 37:12
  obsessed with technology but at the same time there's always
• 37:16
  seems to be an attraction in society to what once was Was
• 37:22
  almost. Yeah, I know.
• 37:23
  I've been great, it's been that way.
• 37:24
  Like I've always been far more interested in what used to be
• 37:28
  rather than what is your aunt's living in the past.
• 37:30
  Like, right. Exactly.
• 37:32
  And I feel like Of course, the music.
• 37:37
  I love a good, I love a good pop song, like 2009's trashy, club
• 37:42
  music, I dig it you know, but it's easy to consume of course.
• 37:51
  And that's another thing with my music is there's no words
• 37:56
  because I'm not, you know, it's no words.
• 37:58
  It really, really leaves you in a spot where you have to
• 38:04
  interpret Rotate it yourself, you know like a music score from
• 38:10
  like a film. You know, if you don't really
• 38:12
  know the film that well and you're just listening to this
• 38:15
  quote-unquote quack classical music.
• 38:18
  You know, there's no words so that you just love it in the
• 38:21
  classical music pile, but like your you have to come up with
• 38:25
  your what is it like music video on your head or how it makes you
• 38:30
  feel and people will text me. Or like, message me like, oh I
• 38:37
  listen to your song today because I was sad and oh, like
• 38:41
  when I get really worked up it, like, that's the song that I
• 38:45
  need to help me cry. Linda, help me get that emotion
• 38:51
  out, which is so funny to me because I I was not sad.
• 38:55
  Writing it like to me riding that and like making that song
• 38:59
  was not sad. It was very like determined like
• 39:03
  it was about a pipe dream. Like everybody says that like
• 39:07
  this is your dream and everybody says you'll never get it like
• 39:10
  that was like I wanted to release music and I was told
• 39:16
  like that's just not how it works.
• 39:17
  You're not going to do that. And of course like I had to name
• 39:20
  my first single pipe dream because that's why I wrote it
• 39:24
  it's like it was this idea that I've had this whole time and
• 39:27
  people try to weave their way around it and try to sway your
• 39:32
  dream, but you'll stay constant with it.
• 39:35
  That's how it's very like determined confident song.
• 39:39
  So when people text me and they're like, I just cried to
• 39:44
  your song for 15 minutes. Like why why did you do that?
• 39:49
  So, it's it, it leaves room for emotional Freedom, you know.
• 39:54
  Like there's I'm trying to think of like a basic pop song, like
• 39:59
  off the top of my head, like, OMG by Usher and William, right?
• 40:05
  Like, you know what that songs about like you can't make up
• 40:08
  your own way. It's like, that's what it's
• 40:11
  about, you know? Just like some Brandon pop song.
• 40:14
  It's like, spoon-fed like this is what it's about.
• 40:18
  There you go. But like with music with no
• 40:20
  words you're like forced to make your own judgment on what it
• 40:27
  means to you and I think that's good for your brain.
• 40:30
  That's good for the Noggin right there and I'd say it's kind of
• 40:35
  You know, not that it's not happening right now but it's
• 40:37
  definitely not the norm. You know, it I feel like there
• 40:43
  needs to be more of that or it needs to be better.
• 40:47
  Well like more well received and want to.
• 40:52
  I feel like it needs to be sought after a lot more.
• 40:55
  You can't do anything about that.
• 40:56
  People are going to want what people want, but I wish that it
• 40:59
  was sought out a little bit more, you know, I think one
• 41:02
  thing that helps considerably Is so the Advent of the internet
• 41:07
  and the fact that people can access lots of different, ranges
• 41:11
  of music mean prior to that it was very much just yeah.
• 41:14
  What you hear on the radio. Maybe what you accidentally
• 41:17
  discover in a record shop other than that you're very limited.
• 41:20
  Whereas now I find most of the music I listen to these days is
• 41:25
  going to. Some also pretentious is this
• 41:27
  whole thing of like, oh well music, I listen, to is an in the
• 41:30
  charts and stuff, but it's right, you just Discover it, I
• 41:33
  know you discover it for you like, right?
• 41:35
  Playlists or whatever, you know. It's but doesn't that make it
• 41:39
  makes such a special connection to that music because nobody
• 41:44
  likes it and then you get all your friends to listen to it and
• 41:47
  then like, like, like I hate I hate to bring this up.
• 41:50
  I feel like I bring it up all the time but of course, Greta
• 41:53
  Van Fleet, you know, they're not really on the radio.
• 41:56
  Yes, they're popular now. They're popular, you know?
• 41:58
  But I remember like hearing one of their songs and I immediately
• 42:03
  texted my brother because me and my brother We're raised on
• 42:05
  classic rock and I'm like is this not Elton John mixed with
• 42:10
  Led Zeppelin mixed with Aerosmith.
• 42:13
  Like is this not everything we were raised on smashed into one
• 42:18
  band is this not that? And sure enough my brother loves
• 42:23
  them and we love them together and like that's just such a you
• 42:27
  know you discover I just happened upon it one day and now
• 42:32
  it's become this Like huge part of like it's very near and dear
• 42:39
  to my heart that band and gym and you know it wasn't I didn't
• 42:44
  hear it on the radio you know I just happened upon the song and
• 42:48
  I happened upon a one of the cord and I think it was like an
• 42:52
  instrumental and I was like that that chord structure right
• 42:55
  there, what is that? And then I was like, okay, time
• 43:00
  out, I got to get in, let me in when I grew up I was a huge Huge
• 43:05
  classic rock fan, you know, rinse the first for Zeppelin
• 43:09
  albums, doors albums, you name it.
• 43:12
  And I remember the first time I had been around Fleet as like
• 43:14
  hang on a second right. Hang on a second.
• 43:19
  Yeah. What is this?
• 43:20
  And it's not the first band that's ever existed.
• 43:23
  That's done like a right. I do want to say like a Pastiche
• 43:27
  or let's say a sound alike because I was a big fan of rival
• 43:31
  sons and yes they've got But they're still quite unique.
• 43:36
  Whereas I feel like greater than Fleet, like, I've seen them get
• 43:40
  frustrated about the fact that people draw comparisons to
• 43:43
  Zeppelin so much, but it's like the thing is, they sound so much
• 43:49
  like them and I don't think people necessarily are comparing
• 43:51
  them to be difficult or be like, oh, you're copying them all
• 43:54
  over. Some people would say that but
• 43:56
  right, I don't think they are. I think it's just that when you
• 43:58
  use those chord progressions, when you do those to me it just
• 44:02
  sounds like They're picking up where Zeppelin left off kind of
• 44:07
  thing, right. But I know that a lot of people
• 44:10
  hate that, but because I personally think that their most
• 44:14
  recent album, I don't feel like it's very, like, Led Zeppelin
• 44:19
  copy. Like I feel good that learning
• 44:22
  like fresh. Yeah, exactly.
• 44:23
  Of course, our new stuff like, I can see where people are coming
• 44:26
  from, but everybody's so mad about that, you know, and I
• 44:29
  don't, I don't want to make this whole podcast about Greta Van
• 44:32
  Fleet. The people that get mad, like,
• 44:35
  you love Led Zeppelin, like, why wouldn't you want somebody to
• 44:41
  like, carry that on and bring it into two like the new-age, like
• 44:46
  today? Why wouldn't you want that?
• 44:48
  You know, just originality augment those nice.
• 44:51
  The same as being in movies, I mean, okay, it's a little bit
• 44:53
  different in the sense that, you know, with movies, people's
• 44:57
  complaint generally is, if it's too out there, it sucks.
• 45:02
  But if it's like just a remake, Make then or do something
• 45:05
  original, right? So you could damned if you do
• 45:07
  damned if you don't. I think the problem never get
• 45:09
  enough. I do either way, you know,
• 45:11
  there's a thing. The problem with Greta Van Fleet
• 45:13
  is it doesn't matter what they do.
• 45:15
  They will always be compared to Led Zeppelin because they just
• 45:19
  sound so much like them and it's I hope one day.
• 45:22
  I have a Trope like that, like oh no matter what she does.
• 45:25
  She'll always have this because I feel like that's really.
• 45:27
  When you make it is when you have like, you know, that's
• 45:30
  there's always going to be that group of people that are always
• 45:33
  going to be. She's always like this, but then
• 45:35
  you'll have this other group, that's like, know, it's so much
• 45:39
  more than that, you know? Like the controversy, I don't
• 45:42
  know. I feel like that's like when you
• 45:44
  really you've gotten there, you know, just having haters,
• 45:47
  basically, your motivators, isn't that what it's all about?
• 45:53
  I don't know, most of the time when I see haters online, or
• 45:56
  wherever I'm just like this person's hurting.
• 45:59
  I don't know. I don't people, come on my live
• 46:02
  and I'll like, call me fat or whatever and I'll be like, hey,
• 46:05
  everybody shush are you okay? Let's make sure this person's
• 46:08
  okay, are they? All right, sister tension.
• 46:10
  And it's, like, plz Notice Me, notice me.
• 46:13
  I'm the troll. But if I haven't had to deal
• 46:16
  with two too much, thankfully, I mean, Either way.
• 46:21
  I mean it I it's not going to stop me.
• 46:24
  It's not going to make me change the way I feel about myself or
• 46:29
  the way I perceive my music. You know, because I like at the
• 46:35
  end of the day, I know that this is an extension of me, and if
• 46:40
  people don't like it, people don't like me, a lot of the
• 46:43
  time, you know, everywhere I go. There's always going to be
• 46:46
  somebody that doesn't like me. So, why would I Why would I
• 46:50
  care? And I know it's like I'm saying
• 46:53
  this now and one day I'll be sad and crying about all the people
• 46:57
  that are saying all these mean things to me and I'll have my
• 47:00
  moment of sadness. I'll have my moment of like,
• 47:03
  boohoo crying, but at the end of the day and nothing really
• 47:09
  matters, nothing matters. At the end of the day.
• 47:12
  You know, how did you learn to have that attitude?
• 47:14
  Because I've noticed over the years, like, it took me a while
• 47:18
  to get The to the point what? Because now I just don't care.
• 47:21
  I honestly think if you don't like me I don't give a fuck.
• 47:25
  But if you know what I, you know, Life's too short to give a
• 47:28
  shit about that, you know? And let's have actually wrong
• 47:31
  someone. I don't write.
• 47:33
  That's different. That's completely different.
• 47:34
  Exactly. Like just just disliking someone
• 47:36
  because a lot of times it's just like people dislike you for no
• 47:39
  reason but I just don't like this about you.
• 47:41
  I don't like your Vibe or whatever fucking it's like okay
• 47:44
  fine. But like right.
• 47:47
  Because you'll cross people will that you'll have an interaction
• 47:49
  with. And you're just like, I'm not a
• 47:51
  fan, you know? And I won't ever say that,
• 47:55
  unless it was that one guy who was like, Lord, would you like
• 47:58
  me? I'll be like, reasons a b and c
• 48:01
  because you asked a pencil, you know, let me pull my receipts
• 48:09
  real fast. I've actually been recording
• 48:11
  this conversation, sir. No just kidding, but yeah, like
• 48:16
  I don't love every like I don't want to say, I don't love
• 48:20
  everybody. I love everybody.
• 48:22
  As in the sense of I will treat you with kindness and respect
• 48:25
  because that's what everybody deserves.
• 48:27
  Yeah. But like I know I'm not going to
• 48:30
  get along with everybody. I know that I as a person, just
• 48:36
  because I'm 23 years old and I've dealt with, not like, I'm
• 48:41
  23 years old, I'm so big and wise, but I'm old enough to know
• 48:45
  that I'm a very Much an acquired taste kind of person.
• 48:49
  Like, I am the acquired taste to people like some people, they
• 48:54
  just don't like me and I know it's because I'm very pal, like,
• 48:59
  boom, you know, and I am, this is how I am and there's no
• 49:05
  changing it and I'm not going to alter myself for anything or
• 49:08
  anyone and that's, you know, that, you know, in high school
• 49:14
  that was a big issue for people. In college people just didn't
• 49:18
  care about it. Like didn't care for it.
• 49:20
  So I would get sad and I would be like I'm not popular like
• 49:27
  what the heck like I'm missing out but then I would say that
• 49:31
  this like attitude of like I have to stop caring or I just
• 49:37
  simply don't care has really solidified in the past year
• 49:42
  because I've always felt like Like I didn't care but in the
• 49:48
  sense of I don't care and I'm mad about it, you know?
• 49:51
  Like I'm like whatever like whatever.
• 49:53
  Talk to the hand. Like whatever you're missing out
• 49:57
  but now I'm like so indifferent. Like I just lit like bottom
• 50:03
  line. Like I don't care like okay.
• 50:07
  Let's move on with our lives because there's just too many
• 50:09
  people in this world and everybody has their own paths
• 50:12
  and not, everybody's paths need to be aligned with each other.
• 50:15
  So, Why even wife or something, you know, see, it's rather have
• 50:22
  authentic authentic City. Other its quality over quantity.
• 50:27
  Are, you know? I agree.
• 50:28
  If you put anything ever bothers me is like, like, sometimes I'll
• 50:31
  be like working somewhere. Or I remember, I was doing
• 50:33
  volunteering by year or two back, and there's just like some
• 50:36
  woman who clearly didn't like me and we never spoke.
• 50:40
  And here's the thing. Like I remember, Saying good
• 50:43
  morning like every morning for like a week and just nothing and
• 50:49
  eventually as I'll fuck you, then I won't.
• 50:51
  And then, you know, cool because like, I'm not gonna just like,
• 50:55
  if you never get above him, look at a reciprocating, right?
• 50:58
  And then it was just always awkward after that.
• 51:01
  And I'm just thinking to myself, like, what is this like what
• 51:03
  does this even mean? Like, because the thing is it be
• 51:07
  fine. It'd be so much cooler.
• 51:08
  If like the people that, you know, you just don't click with.
• 51:11
  There's this like a Unspoken mutual agreement to just be
• 51:15
  severe. Right?
• 51:16
  You know me as opposed to like I don't like you for no reason so
• 51:21
  therefore every time we're in a room together it has to be
• 51:23
  awkward or like this tension. Yeah like a group situation.
• 51:27
  It's like I agree. That's a sir.
• 51:31
  Yeah. But you know it's because
• 51:33
  there's sour and bitter people out there that you can't do
• 51:38
  anything, all you can do is just wish them the best and Hope.
• 51:42
  That they get their act together because I would hate to live a
• 51:49
  life where I'm just bitter to somebody for no.
• 51:53
  Like I have these made up crazy reasons in my head and I'll live
• 51:56
  by them and I'll allow tension tension in my life like that's
• 52:01
  going to give you wrinkles and gray hair.
• 52:03
  Why like why not just Peace out, you know, and not half, like,
• 52:10
  not put like brainpower towards it.
• 52:14
  You know what I mean? Because I feel like a lot of
• 52:17
  these, like, the, the people that you're talking about.
• 52:19
  I know exactly who you're talking about, and it's like,
• 52:22
  like your Wasting so much of your energy on this right now,
• 52:30
  when you could be like, putting that energy towards something
• 52:34
  good like like a friendship, you know, like that's like, we don't
• 52:40
  have unlimited energy. We get burnt out like we as
• 52:43
  humans or whatever. And that's what they're choosing
• 52:46
  to. It's like money.
• 52:47
  Like that's what they're choosing to spend that on.
• 52:50
  Is hate and sourness. You know, but and I was a very
• 52:57
  sour bitter person like I said before, like I would be like, oh
• 53:01
  like oh you don't like me and I would be like upset and mad, you
• 53:06
  know, and I would choose the bitterness.
• 53:09
  But like I just tried one day, like, let me just try to be like
• 53:15
  that peaceful hippie girl, that I've always wanted to be and I
• 53:20
  was like, oh, I sleep so much better.
• 53:23
  I I feel cleaner. Does that make sense?
• 53:27
  Like I feel cleaner like cleaner.
• 53:30
  And is that a more clean as what I should say?
• 53:32
  If I'm being grammatically? Correct, but I feel more clean
• 53:37
  and light and brighter. Like I feel like me as a person
• 53:44
  was a lot bright brighter if that makes sense.
• 53:47
  Again, I know this is sounding very hippy dippy and I apologize
• 53:52
  but And I always describe myself as a modern-day appearance,
• 53:57
  right? Exactly.
• 53:58
  It's very own brand for me, but no, but yeah, like, why wouldn't
• 54:02
  you want to feel like why wouldn't you want to feel that
• 54:05
  that way? And like, don't get me wrong.
• 54:07
  I gotta have my days where I'm, I'll allow myself to feel that
• 54:11
  grungy sourness, but I'll keep it to myself.
• 54:14
  And just be like, oh, like today is just going to be one of those
• 54:17
  days where I'll allow myself to have those feelings, you know?
• 54:22
  Because those You get frustrated and you're going to get mad and
• 54:26
  you're going to get ticked off and stuff like that.
• 54:29
  But don't wish, like that's just part of the human experience.
• 54:34
  It is like feeling those emotions and everything, so
• 54:36
  don't wish them away but let them come.
• 54:39
  And then let them pass don't live in them because like I
• 54:42
  said, I lived in them and I feel like that was also a reason why
• 54:46
  people weren't liking me is because I was living in that.
• 54:50
  Mindset of just being sour but now it's I don't give it too but
• 54:57
  I don't give it to anymore. It's just cuz also you.
• 55:04
  I'm not saying that life is a simulation, but if you view it
• 55:07
  in a simulation, it's so it's so much easier.
• 55:10
  It's so much easier also. Like it, nothing matters.
• 55:15
  Like the simulink, you're like, oh it's a simulation.
• 55:18
  Nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things.
• 55:20
  So I'm just going to do what I want to do and be who I want to
• 55:23
  be because Like like to round it right back around.
• 55:28
  So what we were talking about earlier just like you had like
• 55:31
  the society's timeline, you know, it's a simulation you
• 55:35
  don't even have to do it, you know, you don't have to, they're
• 55:39
  going to push you to do it, but you don't have to What are you
• 55:45
  disagreeing? What kind of like I get your
• 55:48
  point, but it wouldn't be me if I didn't pick and prod, right?
• 55:54
  See in it to each their own. Exactly.
• 55:57
  This is The Inquisitor me. I think increased is right and
• 56:00
  wrong word. Be curious side of me.
• 56:02
  There you go. Like, I don't know.
• 56:05
  Do you not feel that like, unless To a certain degree, you
• 56:10
  have to kind of acquiesced certain things in society, do
• 56:13
  you feel that way? I mean I for example like like
• 56:16
  laws and things. Well yeah but like I mean, more
• 56:18
  kind of like okay? Like I needed?
• 56:21
  I need money. Oh yeah.
• 56:22
  Yeah, no. Absolutely right to a sense and
• 56:26
  that's why I'm saying I don't like believe it is a simulation.
• 56:28
  I just think like if you have that kind of like back mindset
• 56:32
  like, hmm. It's a lot like life turns to be
• 56:35
  a lot more fun. Like it turns into more fun
• 56:38
  rather. Than a chore like it's a
• 56:40
  simulation. I'm not going to care about
• 56:42
  everything. This is the dream that I have
• 56:44
  and I'm going to do everything that I can to achieve that dream
• 56:48
  and I don't have to give it up you know, because everybody's
• 56:50
  telling me that I have to give it up and I don't have to live
• 56:53
  this like bitter Karen life. I mean, I'm a, I'm a white
• 56:58
  woman. Like the only future, I have the
• 57:01
  society is pushing on me is a Karen and I don't want that, you
• 57:04
  know. I don't want to grow up into
• 57:06
  that. That's what I got.
• 57:08
  That's that's what I have to look forward to.
• 57:10
  I see these old white ladies and I'm like, please, anything, but
• 57:15
  that anything, but that, why do you think there's so many people
• 57:18
  out there that tell us not to follow our dreams?
• 57:22
  That is a good question. The conspiracy theory side of me
• 57:28
  is because they just don't want us to be happy, they want us to,
• 57:32
  they want us to work like little ants in an ant farm, but I just
• 57:37
  think that Sometimes. When you have a dream and you go
• 57:47
  for it and it doesn't work, you could literally like quite
• 57:52
  literally end up on the streets and you could just run your life
• 57:57
  into the ground and if it doesn't work out which you know,
• 58:01
  not everything will work out, you know.
• 58:05
  Like if you put all your eggs into one basket, like there's a
• 58:08
  high chance that you could get hurt in like if it And if you
• 58:15
  put all your bets in one place and you lose like that's like a
• 58:19
  financial recovery that is going to be hard to make.
• 58:22
  So I think it's a the reason why the whole don't try to follow
• 58:26
  your dreams. Be a realist, be realistic.
• 58:29
  It's because it is a realistic and more.
• 58:32
  It's the, you know, Pocahontas, the movie, you know, when she's
• 58:37
  like in the the Just Around the Riverbend part where she's like,
• 58:42
  should I choose the smoothest? Course, steady as the beating
• 58:45
  drum, or or do you still wait for me?
• 58:49
  Dream, Giver Just Around the Riverbend.
• 58:51
  And she's like, literally, in a fork in the river, and there's
• 58:54
  just a steady stream, and then a crazy like a river Rapids.
• 58:59
  And she chooses the River Rapids.
• 59:02
  I feel like that is a choice that we're all everybody has to
• 59:07
  go to through that, you know, because everybody has some sort
• 59:10
  of dream, but The smoothest course, is the safest one.
• 59:15
  And of course, Society is going to won't I say Society.
• 59:18
  But like it's not even just that.
• 59:21
  But like, your parents and your family and your friends are
• 59:24
  going to encourage you to choose the safe path because they want
• 59:27
  to see you succeed. That's like almost guaranteed
• 59:31
  quote, unquote success, you know, as in, I say success.
• 59:36
  But I mean like there's a chance of failure, you know, it's just
• 59:43
  Review is just painful to hear it because it's just like, you
• 59:47
  know, I've had these kind of conversations, family, people.
• 59:51
  I know, and it's like the what if I've learned anything in
• 59:54
  life, it's to not listen to those people that tell you not
• 59:57
  to do stuff just ignore those fucking people.
• 1:00:01
  Right? Right, because you and I know
• 1:00:04
  that you're the same like the reason why we're pursuing what
• 1:00:07
  we're pursuing right now is because we feel in our bones,
• 1:00:11
  like we can do it. Like, do you not feel in your
• 1:00:16
  bones? Like I know that of course
• 1:00:18
  there's like going to be a voice in the back of your head.
• 1:00:20
  That's like, oh, like oh you're really doing it, are you sure?
• 1:00:24
  But like, yeah, exactly. But you obviously, you're
• 1:00:28
  pursuing it and you're really putting time and effort to it.
• 1:00:31
  Like what we're doing right now. We feel in our bones like we can
• 1:00:35
  do it, you know. So why wouldn't we at least try
• 1:00:39
  for me? It's that feeling for me it's
• 1:00:41
  more than that though. I'd like I've I've done the
• 1:00:44
  whole corporate thing. I did the whole trying to have a
• 1:00:48
  job and you know what? It may be fucking miss Remar,
• 1:00:52
  exactly. Like I said, I seen a do this
• 1:00:55
  and never get anywhere. Then yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Work nine to five for the rest of my life cash out at like 60
• 1:01:03
  and just died a year later. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:07
  What a life, you know, because you had a good time and you
• 1:01:11
  know, that when when you're Taking your last breath.
• 1:01:14
  Your, you know that you did the best that you could and you did
• 1:01:17
  what you wanted to do, you know. Mmm.
• 1:01:21
  So it matter. Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Because and that's another thing is, if I do fail, like, you
• 1:01:28
  know, there because there's, of course, always the chance.
• 1:01:31
  There's always the one reality where you fail, I guess.
• 1:01:34
  And if that's where I'm at, and I get to that point and I
• 1:01:38
  failed, I, of course, will mourn over the failure.
• 1:01:42
  But I know that I did everything that I could to achieve what I
• 1:01:50
  wanted and in that sense, I would be fine.
• 1:01:59
  I would be fine. The world can hate me.
• 1:02:01
  Like what? They did to Rebecca Black when
• 1:02:03
  she released Friday, but I know like I did it and they didn't
• 1:02:08
  like it and that's fine. You know, they didn't like it, I
• 1:02:11
  wasn't well received and that's okay.
• 1:02:14
  I did, I did it, you know, so they can put me in the ground
• 1:02:19
  knowing that I did what I wanted to do.
• 1:02:21
  I guess hopefully that's not anytime soon, but yeah.
• 1:02:25
  What a queer either. Yeah, let's put that on the
• 1:02:30
  tumbler cup. So that on Etsy, oh my God.
• 1:02:37
  Okay, I want to kind of just take it back to the beginning
• 1:02:41
  and just kind of asked about how you sort of initially got into
• 1:02:45
  music and into becoming a fruit pie.
• 1:02:47
  Why did you just decide to become a free player?
• 1:02:49
  Like, what did that start? I actually wanted to be a
• 1:02:53
  violinist or a List. But I didn't get put in
• 1:02:58
  Orchestra. When I was in Middle School, I
• 1:03:01
  got put in band class and I showed up on the first day and
• 1:03:05
  they handed me a piece of paper that said this is your choice of
• 1:03:09
  three instruments and it was flute clarinet and saxophone
• 1:03:12
  they said put a number and rate which one you want to play first
• 1:03:18
  and then like put them in order and my mom played flute in high
• 1:03:24
  school or middle school. School.
• 1:03:25
  So I was like I guess flu-like out of out of flute clarinet and
• 1:03:29
  saxophone like I liked flew the most and then I came in the next
• 1:03:33
  day and they're like, here's there was like names on the
• 1:03:36
  seats like a seating chart and I was sat in the flute section so
• 1:03:40
  I did not pick up a flu until we went to the rental store.
• 1:03:45
  Like I'd never seen a flute in real life like as a conscious
• 1:03:49
  being. Like I remember being at the
• 1:03:52
  like the rental place the music they in It Rental place and I
• 1:03:57
  opened up the case and I'm like, Mom, like how do you put this
• 1:04:00
  together? Like, I don't even know what
• 1:04:01
  because he's, you know, it's in the case.
• 1:04:03
  I'm like I don't even know how to put this together.
• 1:04:05
  I've never even seen because I know like in a lot of middle
• 1:04:07
  schools, they'll have a day where you come and you try all
• 1:04:11
  the instruments and you see which one, you know, appeals to
• 1:04:14
  you. The most know, they just sat me
• 1:04:16
  down and said, you're playing the flute and I was like,
• 1:04:19
  whatever. But here we are 13, 13 years
• 1:04:22
  later, I was in piano. Piano lessons, when I was in
• 1:04:26
  like kindergarten though. I got like a on my sixth
• 1:04:29
  birthday. Santa brought me a keyboard.
• 1:04:33
  So and that's where I found out that I could play by ear because
• 1:04:39
  I would plug in the keyboard and then it would be like a I used
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  to watch Reba a lot when I was little and I like would play the
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  Reba theme song on my piano and I would like, like little me at
• 1:04:51
  this point. I would, I vividly like it's
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  probably Seven years old, 7 or 8?
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  And I had like, my big keyboard and I like brought it to my
• 1:05:00
  mom's room while she was watching TV.
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  And I like, sat on the ground, I was like, I got to play
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  something for you, and I plugged it in and I played the Riva
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  theme song. Or I played the chords from
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  oblah diablada by The Beatles. So and I great song and I was
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  like here, like Mom, look, look at this.
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  And she's like, good job, and it wasn't until I got it.
• 1:05:23
  She's like nice. Nice.
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  It wasn't until I got in high school when I was starting to
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  talk to people and I'm like, hey play this song with me, play the
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  song with me. Like with.
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  Like my flute friends are like my clarinet friends and they
• 1:05:37
  were like, where's the words of sheet music?
• 1:05:39
  I'm like, no, no, no, just play it.
• 1:05:41
  Let's go. Come on and they're like, no,
• 1:05:44
  like it. We need music and I'll talk to
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  my mom about. I was like, do you know like
• 1:05:47
  people actually need music to play stuff?
• 1:05:51
  Like, do you know that it's not just like they can just do it
• 1:05:54
  because at this Boy, I've been playing it like everything like
• 1:05:58
  anything, you know like with a Melody I can pretty.
• 1:06:01
  I could do at that point. But yeah, so and then we were
• 1:06:05
  like, okay, wait a minute, we I have something here so that's
• 1:06:10
  I'm very, very thankful that I can do that.
• 1:06:13
  Okay, I'm I'm halfway, illiterate can't do math.
• 1:06:17
  Barely could get through High School classes without extra
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  credit. But dang, dang.
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  Can I play a song on the radio? You know what I mean?
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  I feel like it's like with those creatives.
• 1:06:28
  Our brains are hard-wired that a different way because same as
• 1:06:31
  you, I am useless at maths. I don't even try.
• 1:06:35
  But when it comes to music like a got natural timing, find it
• 1:06:38
  easier just make sense. Yeah, just it's just like oh no
• 1:06:41
  problem. Yes, it's weird.
• 1:06:43
  Like when I hear people discuss having difficulties with
• 1:06:46
  creativity, I'm like really, they're like, I couldn't say I
• 1:06:50
  can play a musical instrument instrument, to save my life.
• 1:06:53
  And I went through a, I went through a phase Period of my
• 1:06:55
  life where I got. I asked for a different
• 1:06:58
  instrument, every Christmas and I would learn it by the next
• 1:07:00
  week after I got it Christmas. Like I feel like once you learn
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  for me personally, it was like, once I learned one, like, I was
• 1:07:10
  good. Like I understood the theory of
• 1:07:12
  instruments, like, my in high school.
• 1:07:15
  My flute instructor was also a harpist.
• 1:07:21
  So, one one, one year I for the Christmas concert or Christmas
• 1:07:27
  recital, I came into my, like a month prior.
• 1:07:32
  I said, hey Monica, I want to surprise my parents and play
• 1:07:36
  harp at the recital and I did it like I just did it, you know, I
• 1:07:41
  played harp for the first like, little section of the piece and
• 1:07:44
  I picked up my flute and played flute for the second half and I
• 1:07:47
  was like, hey, Mom, Dad. Like, I got a surprise at the
• 1:07:50
  recital tonight and I just like, I played my, of course I played
• 1:07:54
  like my, Repertoire that I sat back down and I was the Monica,
• 1:07:58
  my instructor new like it was a surprise.
• 1:08:01
  So she made it the finale. Oh, cool.
• 1:08:03
  And which is so, yeah, great. So like I got up with my flute
• 1:08:08
  and then I sat down at the harp and it was like, oh, like
• 1:08:11
  everybody. Like is so funny because it but
• 1:08:14
  you know it's the same as everything else.
• 1:08:16
  Like it's like a piano like you can see it.
• 1:08:19
  It's just the same. So yeah, learning different
• 1:08:22
  instruments and everything but can I Read.
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  No. Have I when I type in the
• 1:08:28
  numbers at checkout, do I charge everybody?
• 1:08:31
  The wrong price because it's around the numbers.
• 1:08:33
  Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:08:35
  But dang, do I know some music? You know?
• 1:08:38
  I don't know. I'm like, I don't know.
• 1:08:41
  I just I'm just so silly. I don't know.
• 1:08:43
  Like I'm just so I'm just so quirky and different.
• 1:08:46
  I think it just kind of. Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Like I said before it's just different parts of the brain may
• 1:08:52
  be different ways of functioning.
• 1:08:54
  Right pops. Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  Because there's like left brain and right brain type stuff.
• 1:08:59
  Who knows? Yeah.
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  Yeah it's cool. So I'm grateful for it.
• 1:09:04
  Yeah. Still kind of wish that I got
• 1:09:06
  put an orchestra though it was because Eleanor Rigby you know
• 1:09:10
  has like that string quartet and I was like that's what I want.
• 1:09:13
  That's what I want. They're like no band.
• 1:09:16
  No you're going to be a band kid.
• 1:09:17
  Sorry I'm like thanks thanks Middle School, Registrar's
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  Office, thanks re altered my entire Life right there, and for
• 1:09:26
  you on your, on your website. It says that you draw
• 1:09:33
  inspiration from nature. Could you expand on this?
• 1:09:38
  Absolutely. Do you like, you know, the
• 1:09:44
  feeling okay. Do you ever go outside and just
• 1:09:51
  kind of like you feel you can like when you're in like the
• 1:09:54
  mountains or something like that or you're outside and you can
• 1:09:57
  hear the breeze coming, like you can hear the gust of wind coming
• 1:10:00
  through the trees before it kind of like washes over you and then
• 1:10:04
  it's just like that. Crisp, fresh air on your skin.
• 1:10:09
  That At like I don't know if it's much like pulling
• 1:10:14
  inspiration from nature as in, I hear the noises of Nature and I
• 1:10:18
  try to replicate that as like when I'm surrounded by Nature.
• 1:10:22
  It puts me in such a good headspace that I feel like I can
• 1:10:30
  like I feel like my most authentic self especially since
• 1:10:34
  moving here to Las Vegas. So I used to live here when I
• 1:10:37
  was younger, when my dad my dad. Retired military.
• 1:10:42
  And we were stationed here. When I was in elementary school
• 1:10:44
  and middle school, this is where I first started playing the
• 1:10:46
  flute since I've moved back there, is it sits in a valley so
• 1:10:51
  there's mountains all over and there's a Mount Charleston.
• 1:10:55
  Charleston Peak. It's like 40 minutes from my
• 1:10:58
  house. Every week since I've been here,
• 1:11:00
  I've gone up to the mountains because it's the, it's not
• 1:11:05
  humid, it's like 20 degrees colder up there and it's exactly
• 1:11:10
  like that just most natural authentic feeling that I can
• 1:11:16
  possibly put myself in and I this morning when I got off
• 1:11:20
  this. So when I work graveyard, I get
• 1:11:24
  off at 6:00 a.m. and I go up to the parking garage and we have
• 1:11:27
  to park on the top of the parking garage and the Sun is
• 1:11:30
  just barely coming up as I get off.
• 1:11:32
  So usually since I've been working, it's been I will get my
• 1:11:37
  car immediately and go home or I'll take a cat nap in my Car
• 1:11:40
  and then go home because I'm too tired.
• 1:11:42
  But today I had like a second wind that came and I just sat on
• 1:11:47
  the edge of the parking garage like I just, you know, stood
• 1:11:49
  there and watched the sun come up over the mountains.
• 1:11:52
  And I was like, I I tried to take pictures and videos of it,
• 1:11:55
  but it absolutely would not capture it.
• 1:11:57
  And I'm like this, is it like this is like I never thought
• 1:12:01
  that. I like I always felt close to
• 1:12:04
  Nature like That, like, when I was, of course, like, when I was
• 1:12:09
  in nature, like, I like I said authentic, but like, I had the
• 1:12:12
  realization this morning that like, like, no, like I'm
• 1:12:16
  actually I feel like, just looking at it from a distance.
• 1:12:19
  I'm like that is I want to be there, you know.
• 1:12:23
  So I feel like I said, my flute in my music is an extension of
• 1:12:30
  myself. And I just like, when I go out,
• 1:12:35
  like I don't know if you've watched any of my recent kind of
• 1:12:37
  videos, but I recently went up into the mountains and brought
• 1:12:41
  my aunt and my mic and just play it into into the mountains.
• 1:12:45
  And it was the noise was ricocheting off the mountains,
• 1:12:48
  like back and it just felt like it belonged there.
• 1:12:52
  Like, I felt like, wow, that is me ricocheting off of these
• 1:12:58
  pieces of the earth that have been there.
• 1:13:01
  For what billions of years. However long that the Earth has
• 1:13:04
  been around and that's like I'm what I am manifest like not
• 1:13:09
  manifesting but like I guess manifesting I'm breathing in
• 1:13:13
  air. This clean fresh air that the
• 1:13:16
  trees are providing like cleaning for me.
• 1:13:19
  I'm breathing it in and I'm breathing out.
• 1:13:23
  Intangible art and I'm it's ricocheting off these mountains
• 1:13:28
  right now. That's just the neatest thing to
• 1:13:30
  me. So and then when I was in
• 1:13:33
  Florida, I would go to the beach to I don't like the beach but
• 1:13:38
  it's a good place to clear your mind, you know, or just like a
• 1:13:42
  good drive and just kind of taking a moment to realize that
• 1:13:48
  even the grass and the wildflowers and the median of
• 1:13:51
  the highway is the Thing just like you are and there's just
• 1:13:56
  life all around us. That's just a great place to
• 1:14:03
  ground yourself before embarking on like creating if that makes
• 1:14:09
  sense. Hmm.
• 1:14:11
  So I guess that's what I mean by and taking inspiration from
• 1:14:16
  nature. You know, also flew kind of
• 1:14:20
  sounds like birds, so maybe. That's the short answer, I
• 1:14:26
  guess. I don't know. in the You were
• 1:14:32
  talking about the fact that you had grown up in a military
• 1:14:36
  family. Talk us through your
• 1:14:37
  experiences, growing up in a military family and how that
• 1:14:41
  shaped you as a person. I feel.
• 1:14:48
  Like the exposure to a lot of different cultures and ways of
• 1:14:51
  life rounded me a lot like I feel you know because I'm sure
• 1:14:59
  like every military person that you're a military brat or
• 1:15:04
  whatever they call them, they can never say where they're
• 1:15:06
  from, you know, because they're just from so many places and I
• 1:15:10
  think that's like each little military child that got to kind
• 1:15:16
  of grow up in a bunch of different areas.
• 1:15:18
  Has their own sense of cult-like.
• 1:15:20
  I don't want to say culture but kind of culture like they just
• 1:15:24
  pick bits and pieces. Mmm, and make their own kind of
• 1:15:27
  way of life. And I think that's, that's
• 1:15:30
  great. Because when I was in Florida, I
• 1:15:32
  always considered myself from Las Vegas.
• 1:15:36
  But now that I'm here, I'm like, no, I think I'm from Florida,
• 1:15:39
  but then I was like, I don't really consider myself like a
• 1:15:42
  Floridian, but like, Southern Hospitality, I've definitely
• 1:15:47
  picked that up, but the like fast-paced City Life from here
• 1:15:55
  is, I've picked that up as well. I lived in Dubai for a year.
• 1:16:02
  Yes, that was crazy. It was like an alternate
• 1:16:04
  Dimension. And I went to a school where I
• 1:16:06
  was pretty much me and my brother were the only two
• 1:16:08
  Americans in the entire school and my best friend was Turkish.
• 1:16:12
  So like getting to pick and choose what I want from what I
• 1:16:16
  like from those cultures There is like little like funky
• 1:16:20
  superstitions, or just like, oh, like in the Norwegian culture,
• 1:16:25
  we do this. And I'm like, you know what, I
• 1:16:27
  like that. That's what I'm gonna do from
• 1:16:29
  now on. And, like, I was born in
• 1:16:34
  Cambridge. So, yeah, like mildenhall, like
• 1:16:39
  my dad was stationed over there. That's where I was born.
• 1:16:42
  So, my parents, I did not live there that long but my parents,
• 1:16:46
  you know, they were Newlyweds. Kids over there and me and my
• 1:16:49
  brother, both have Irish names. Do you have to citizenship?
• 1:16:55
  No, I was born on American base military but I'll see.
• 1:16:58
  That doesn't apply. Interesting.
• 1:17:00
  No, I don't ya. I've got my social security card
• 1:17:03
  looks different than everybody else's from what I'm told.
• 1:17:07
  I haven't really seen. Like whenever I show it at like
• 1:17:09
  a job, they're like oh you were born overseas, weren't you?
• 1:17:12
  And I was like, yeah, I guess I guess it's a different color.
• 1:17:15
  I don't know. But Goes like, where was I going
• 1:17:22
  with that? But the, oh, so my parents love,
• 1:17:24
  like the European culture when they were like newlyweds, like
• 1:17:28
  living there. My brother's name is Patrick.
• 1:17:30
  We call him Patty and my name is Aaron Clare.
• 1:17:32
  And Clare is like counting Clare in Ireland.
• 1:17:35
  So, but we're I mean, I'm sure there's some sort of European
• 1:17:40
  blood in a somewhere but like so having those kind of European
• 1:17:46
  ideologies along with like Southern ideologies and then
• 1:17:50
  like Western ideologies you know it makes me super good at
• 1:17:54
  accents like I can whip a Southern accent out of nowhere,
• 1:17:57
  you know, if I need to, you'd be surprised how good that comes in
• 1:18:01
  handy, sometimes. But yeah, so military family, I
• 1:18:05
  think is great. It definitely takes a certain
• 1:18:08
  kind of kid. Like you have to push yourself a
• 1:18:10
  lot harder because you don't have time to waste to make
• 1:18:14
  friends because you just gotta up.
• 1:18:15
  Route and go somewhere else and you don't really want to not
• 1:18:19
  have friends because you don't know how long you're going to be
• 1:18:21
  there. So you need to just go ahead.
• 1:18:23
  It's definitely like I'm confidence is important but
• 1:18:27
  luckily I have that song. I've been fine.
• 1:18:30
  Would you say the biggest lessons you've learned through
• 1:18:32
  traveling? The spot life.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah, I just I think that's where a lot of the foundations
• 1:18:44
  of like respect in my childhood came from.
• 1:18:47
  It's like learning to respect other cultures and that just,
• 1:18:52
  because you're in somebody else's, like, you're in somebody
• 1:18:56
  else's territory, all the time. So you have to be respectful of
• 1:19:01
  the other cultures and everything especially like
• 1:19:02
  living in Dubai. There's like a dress.
• 1:19:05
  Like a nationwide dress code. So you know, so and then while
• 1:19:10
  we were in Dubai we took a couple of like European trips
• 1:19:13
  because it's like right there, it's not as difficult from going
• 1:19:17
  from America to Europe. So just kind of learning that
• 1:19:23
  we're like The Spectators on the side and we just get to kind of
• 1:19:29
  respect and absorb the culture. It that's what I feel.
• 1:19:33
  Like I've learned a lot from travel is like just kind of
• 1:19:38
  being able to step back and recognize the differences and
• 1:19:43
  like how I act and how other people act and how to not think.
• 1:19:49
  Oh, that's stupid because that's not how I act Champa.
• 1:19:54
  Be like that's neat because that's like what I think is
• 1:19:58
  common and I absolutely don't think it's common and they
• 1:20:01
  probably think how I act is also super strange.
• 1:20:05
  So but like instead of judging it celebrating it, you know, I
• 1:20:12
  think that's something great and you get to see like looking at
• 1:20:15
  different places is really cool like just the ecosystems and
• 1:20:21
  stuff like that, you know? Like Zermatt Switzerland is
• 1:20:25
  hands-down so far the prettiest place I've ever been because the
• 1:20:30
  air smelled better there and then like the water was cleaner.
• 1:20:36
  It tasted different in a good way and the plants Just like
• 1:20:42
  they grew more green there, you know, compared to like other
• 1:20:46
  dingy places that I've been, but yeah, just getting too kind of
• 1:20:52
  you definitely. How do you say this?
• 1:20:55
  You definitely learn to keep your eyes peeled a lot more when
• 1:21:00
  you are brought up in travel. Because if you, Are like you
• 1:21:05
  have like a one track mind. You don't experience nearly the
• 1:21:08
  same amount of stuff, you know? I mean Yeah, amazing stuff.
• 1:21:15
  Thanks. It's the best advice you've ever
• 1:21:18
  received. Oh, shoot.
• 1:21:23
  That's a good question and I feel like I have so many
• 1:21:27
  answers. Vitamin C.
• 1:21:29
  Take Vitamin C. That's the best advice that you
• 1:21:31
  can take. You know, stay up on your
• 1:21:34
  vitamins if I run the best advice.
• 1:21:38
  Ya gotta look after sir. Yeah, it's like an hour from
• 1:21:43
  now. I'll be like an Instagram story
• 1:21:49
  about it be like, hey, this is good advice that I remember, But
• 1:21:53
  like, yeah, that's the first thing that came to my head is
• 1:21:56
  take your vitamin C. Let's try a slightly different
• 1:22:00
  one, but similar Vibe. What's the biggest life lesson
• 1:22:03
  you've learned so far? Another, another hard one life
• 1:22:09
  lesson. I feel like it's going to be
• 1:22:20
  similar to what I was talking about earlier and just like just
• 1:22:24
  like be a nicer person and stuff like that's probably the night
• 1:22:27
  because I feel like I've been in a lot of situations where My
• 1:22:33
  actions turned around to bite me in the butt real hard and just
• 1:22:39
  like to learn that. It's not all about you.
• 1:22:41
  All the time is that was like a good life lesson, I guess.
• 1:22:47
  Like keep to your like, keep to yourself, but also at the same
• 1:22:52
  time, like don't be self-absorbed with yourself, you
• 1:22:55
  know, I think that was like a good life lesson.
• 1:23:00
  I have a very sweet best friend named Katie, and I learn so much
• 1:23:07
  from that lady. She is.
• 1:23:10
  She's younger than me. I say lady like she's older.
• 1:23:13
  She's like the most patient and kind person I've ever met Well,
• 1:23:18
  I don't want to say ever met because my great grandma may she
• 1:23:20
  rest in peace was definitely the sweetest.
• 1:23:24
  Most gracious kind person I've ever met but like peer wise,
• 1:23:28
  she's like top-notch human and just like being friends with her
• 1:23:33
  over the years. I owe so much of my patients
• 1:23:37
  that I have today and the kindness and respect that I have
• 1:23:40
  from people. Just from observing the way that
• 1:23:43
  she treats other people, you know, I I feel like my bull,
• 1:23:49
  like, I'm just naturally a selfish person and I have to put
• 1:23:54
  brain power and like, energy towards being selfless, hmm,
• 1:24:00
  unfortunately, but being friends with her and just observing the
• 1:24:05
  way that she is just like, so selfless to the point where it's
• 1:24:10
  almost a flaw like she'll gift. She'll have plans for herself
• 1:24:14
  and she'll have her priorities but She will drop everything if
• 1:24:19
  someone is in need in that like just seeing that time and time.
• 1:24:24
  And again, over the years, I absolutely tried to take as much
• 1:24:29
  as I can and learn as much as I can from her.
• 1:24:33
  So, sad. Shout out to her.
• 1:24:35
  She's great, she's a great woman, but she's, I would say
• 1:24:38
  that my friendship with her, was a good life lesson.
• 1:24:42
  She's awesome. So yeah, but I'll probably have
• 1:24:46
  to call her after this. I'm miss her dearly.
• 1:24:48
  She's back in Florida. But yeah, all selflessness.
• 1:24:53
  I guess it's a good life lesson that I've learned.
• 1:24:58
  As we draw things to a close for today, do you have any upcoming
• 1:25:01
  projects or some final thoughts that you'd like to share with
• 1:25:03
  our listeners? I do actually.
• 1:25:06
  So some there is I don't have dates yet but there is going to
• 1:25:11
  be something dropping in November.
• 1:25:15
  Don't have a solid date yet, but there is possibly some ear candy
• 1:25:21
  coming soon in November. So, stay tuned about that.
• 1:25:25
  Like I said, I just launched my patreon.
• 1:25:27
  Bit ago, and she's just about there's like four tiers and the
• 1:25:32
  there's three like basic tiers but then there's like a music
• 1:25:34
  mentorship tear as well for, like other musicians and other
• 1:25:40
  like, people that want to kind of learn how to perfect their
• 1:25:44
  ear a little bit here. A little bit better and
• 1:25:48
  improvise like improvisation and taking a more creative free
• 1:25:53
  approach to like technique and stuff like that.
• 1:25:57
  So, that's That's patreons been launched.
• 1:25:59
  That was like the most recent thing.
• 1:26:00
  I did something that I'm announcing probably today is I'm
• 1:26:05
  going to and I'm going to talk about Greta Van Fleet again, I
• 1:26:10
  apologize, but I'm going to Florida in a couple weeks and
• 1:26:14
  I'm going to follow them on tour on all their Florida shows
• 1:26:17
  because they have for Florida shows and I play outside of
• 1:26:22
  their shows and what they had a show in West Virginia and August
• 1:26:25
  and I did that and I played out. Side for people that like a
• 1:26:28
  little mini concert, what for the people, camping out for
• 1:26:32
  general admission. So I'm following them on tour
• 1:26:35
  and I'm playing outside because a lot of my followers are fans
• 1:26:38
  of theirs as well, because I do a lot of their stuff.
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  So yeah, so if anybody's going to those Florida shows they're
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  in for a little treat, some entertainment, you know?
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  That's my, my announcement that's probably going to happen
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  today, but yeah. Excellent.
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  Well cited. Yeah.
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  Should be. It's yeah, it's that.
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  Or it's like I might I'm living my groupie fantasy right now.
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  That's what I'm I'm trying to do.
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  You know. Awesome.
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  Awesome. Listen.
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  It's been an absolute pleasure having you on the show?
• 1:27:10
  Thank you so much. Absolutely, thanks for having
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  me. I feel like this is just such
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  genuine conversation. I'm like so pleased with the way
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  this went. They the fact that I'm so
• 1:27:19
  absolutely. Like I can actually form a
• 1:27:21
  sentence right now, it's just astonishing.
• 1:27:23
  So I'm pleased. I'm saying, I think, somewhere
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  during the midst of the conversation.
• 1:27:28
  The coffee kicked in a little bit for me, but this is not my
• 1:27:30
  fifth coffee today, so my gosh. Yeah, I guess, I hope you don't
• 1:27:35
  have to have too much after this as final crash.
• 1:27:38
  And then do it all begins again tomorrow.
• 1:27:42
  Yeah, yeah. Just a never-ending cycle.
• 1:27:44
  Yeah, that's just life. Well, thank you so much for
• 1:27:48
  being on the show. I really appreciate it so much.
• 1:27:50
  Absolutely thank you, too. And to all the listeners of the
• 1:27:53
  Christian re podcast I hope you've enjoyed this episode.
• 1:27:57
  Be safe, be well and I'll see you in the next one.