Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Using AI and Connected Care to Improve Primary Care with Katherine Adams
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- 0:00- What we wanna do with AI is help
- 0:01- clinicians go from being reactive
- 0:04- to proactive.
- 0:05- At Philips, we can recognize patterns in monitoring
- 0:08- data across populations
- 0:10- and apply those insights to specific patients.
- 0:14- Safe and responsible AI can support sharper insights,
- 0:18- pave the way for faster diagnosis,
- 0:21- and help streamline care.
- 0:23- That can benefit clinicians, it can benefit health
- 0:26- systems. And most importantly, it can benefit patients
- 0:29- and their families.
- 0:33- Phillips.
- 0:34- Hi, everyone. This is Gracelyn Keller with Becker's
- 0:36- Healthcare. Thank you so much for tuning in
- 0:38- to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series. We are
- 0:41- recording live at the eleventh annual IT and
- 0:43- revenue cycle conference, the future of AI and
- 0:46- digital health.
- 0:47- Joining me for today's discussion is Katie Adams,
- 0:50- who is the director of clinical operations and
- 0:52- primary care at CommonSpirit.
- 0:54- So, Katie, thanks for being here. Thank you
- 0:56- for having me. And let's jump right into
- 0:58- our conversation.
- 0:59- So health systems are receiving a growing stream
- 1:02- of patient data from bedside monitoring, ambulatory devices,
- 1:05- and care delivered at home.
- 1:07- Where is that data creating actionable insights for
- 1:10- clinicians, and where does it still create more
- 1:12- work than insight?
- 1:13- Oh, wow. Well, the sheer volume of patient
- 1:16- data can be incredibly overwhelming right now, and
- 1:19- it often feels like it creates more work
- 1:21- than insight.
- 1:23- However, when we can organize that data and
- 1:26- have it very well organized for the clinicians,
- 1:28- it makes it much easier for them to
- 1:30- complete their
- 1:31- tasks.
- 1:32- We use that quite a bit in our
- 1:33- ambulatory practices and primary care with ambient listening
- 1:37- in the exam rooms.
- 1:39- That really helps our providers
- 1:41- stay patient focused
- 1:42- and paying attention to the patient in front
- 1:44- of them and allowing the technology to do
- 1:47- all of the data collection that they need.
- 1:48- And in fact, they come away with better
- 1:50- notes, more comprehensive notes, and less of the
- 1:53- cognitive burden that they have today.
- 1:55- So it really does a nice job if
- 1:57- it can organize that data well for the
- 1:59- providers.
- 2:01- And when clinicians are trying to reach a
- 2:02- diagnosis, they often must piece together information from
- 2:06- radiology, cardiology,
- 2:07- pathology, urology, all of these other systems.
- 2:10- Where does that fragmentation create the most friction
- 2:12- in your organization? And how do you bring
- 2:14- that to bring together data sources to address
- 2:17- the fragmentation or close the gap?
- 2:20- I'm excited to say CommonSpirit is transitioning to
- 2:22- a single unified electronic medical record over the
- 2:25- coming years, so we'll all be on Epic
- 2:27- here soon enough.
- 2:29- In the meantime, though, our providers are having
- 2:31- to piece together patient data in order to
- 2:33- tell a comprehensive story about the care that
- 2:35- they're
- 2:36- providing. That's an intense amount of time and
- 2:39- administrative burden that we do place on our
- 2:41- providers.
- 2:42- So when we do get to a unified
- 2:44- record, I think that'll improve significantly.
- 2:47- It doesn't fix the external providers and the
- 2:50- external data issues, but it does mean that,
- 2:53- they'll be able to make better decisions for
- 2:55- their patients downstream
- 2:56- in the future.
- 2:58- And patients increasingly move among the hospital, outpatient
- 3:01- settings, and home.
- 3:02- Where does clinical contacts most often get lost
- 3:05- during these transitions, and what would it take
- 3:07- to give care teams a more continuous view
- 3:08- of the patient?
- 3:10- The biggest gap I see is that transition
- 3:12- from inpatient to outpatient,
- 3:14- especially in our primary care practices.
- 3:17- You know, as a patient, I don't think
- 3:18- of myself as being inpatient or outpatient.
- 3:21- My medical record, my health is
- 3:24- comprehensive to my myself,
- 3:26- and I don't wanna have to do the
- 3:27- work of bringing all that data with me
- 3:29- to every visit.
- 3:30- We haven't
- 3:31- fixed that for our own practice yet at
- 3:33- CommonSpirit. When we move to Unified Medical Record,
- 3:36- we will see that improvement come. However, we're
- 3:38- not waiting for that to come. We're we're
- 3:40- acting now. So in our Phoenix in our
- 3:43- Phoenix market where I sit,
- 3:45- we are working very closely with our freestanding
- 3:47- EDs to, coordinate a warm handoff
- 3:50- from our
- 3:51- EDs and our hospitals to the primary care
- 3:53- practice so patients get the comprehensive care and
- 3:56- follow-up that they deserve.
- 3:58- And with so many AI use cases competing
- 4:00- for attention, how do you distinguish a compelling
- 4:02- pilot from something ready to become part of
- 4:04- everyday care, and what must be in place
- 4:07- to scale it properly?
- 4:09- It is incredibly difficult to tell the difference
- 4:11- between what is hype and what is actually
- 4:13- a really useful tool.
- 4:15- I, as an administrator, rely heavily on my
- 4:17- dyad partners, my physician leaders, my nurse leaders,
- 4:21- advanced practitioners, and all the other clinical staff
- 4:24- who, provide care. I really need them at
- 4:26- my side when we are assessing the different
- 4:28- tools that are out there. I wanna make
- 4:30- sure that what we bring in is actually
- 4:32- solving patient care issues, actually helping our providers
- 4:36- to provide the best possible care. And that
- 4:39- is not only from the point when we
- 4:41- select the software, but it's also when we
- 4:43- go to design and implement and scale that
- 4:45- software up across the organization. I really need
- 4:48- that perspective to make sure we are hitting
- 4:50- the mark when it comes to introducing AI
- 4:52- into the organization.
- 4:54- And as technology relationships move beyond one time
- 4:57- purchases, what should a partner remain accountable for
- 4:59- after go live to make the relationship genuinely
- 5:02- valuable over time?
- 5:04- Well, prior to go live, I wanna see
- 5:06- our partners, our tech partners,
- 5:08- having the same level of commitment towards patient
- 5:10- safety, not only their information, safety of the
- 5:13- data that they hold, but also patient safety,
- 5:16- quality of care that we provide.
- 5:19- Post implementation,
- 5:20- I need their,
- 5:21- ongoing partnership to make sure the AI tools
- 5:24- are continuing to learn. We're continuing to enhance
- 5:27- the quality of the,
- 5:29- outcomes. We're avoiding hallucinations. We're staying fine tuned,
- 5:32- and they really need to be at our
- 5:34- hip throughout that process in order for us
- 5:36- to really be successful long term.
- 5:39- And finally, as care increasingly moves beyond hospital
- 5:41- walls, how are you using connected technologies and
- 5:44- AI to identify patients who need earlier follow-up,
- 5:47- support care coordination teams, and close gaps in
- 5:49- post discharge chair care.
- 5:52- Remote patient monitoring
- 5:54- is one of the many tools that we
- 5:56- look to to, track our patients after they've
- 5:59- left the hospital, left our clinic,
- 6:01- and we often are using those tools today
- 6:03- to be able to discern when a patient
- 6:05- has a change in their care that they
- 6:06- may not even know that's happened,
- 6:08- a change in their blood pressure, a change
- 6:10- in,
- 6:11- their,
- 6:12- glucose level. So we use those tools today
- 6:15- to preventively
- 6:16- reach out to patients and make sure they
- 6:18- get care before an incident occurs.
- 6:21- Wonderful. Well, Katie, thanks so much for joining
- 6:23- me today and sharing these time and insights.
- 6:26- And we also wanna thank our podcast sponsor,
- 6:28- Philips. You can tune in to more podcasts
- 6:30- from Becker's Healthcare by visiting the podcast page
- 6:32- at beccarshospitalreview.com.
- 6:35- Thank you.