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Don't Size Me Up with Mia the Boss · We Talk Back

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  Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who
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  Speaker 1: talk back. What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in for a new episode of
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  Speaker 2: We Talk Back, a show dedicated to you niggas and
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  Speaker 2: these hoes. It's your co-host AJ Holiday. What's up, Tam?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, y'all. And everybody in between.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget that.
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  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Hey, y'all. I love y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in again. It's me, Tam Bam.
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  Speaker 1: We got my friend on the show, Mia the Boss.
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  Speaker 2: Make Mia the Boss. Okay. Mia is an influencer. She
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  Speaker 2: is a super duper serial entrepreneur. She's a plus size model.
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  Speaker 2: As y'all can see, she's fucking beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: And she is the creator of one of your favorite blogs.
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  Speaker 3: Diary of a Fashionista.
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  Speaker 1: Fashionista.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have it anymore. No, it's just me at
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  Speaker 2: the boss.com now.
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  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just me at the boss.com. Yeah. I got
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  Speaker 2: rid of that like a, like a while ago. So,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Tell our listeners all about you, what you do, why
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  Speaker 1: you so such a bad bitch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, I started off blogging back in like
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  Speaker 4: 2008 when I was in college. Um, I studied journalism
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  Speaker 4: and mass communications and I did not want to be like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a typical like news reporter, hard news. Like
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  Speaker 4: my mom thought I was going to school to be
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  Speaker 4: a news anchor. Like I just killed all her dreams.
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  Speaker 4: But I just always wanted to work for like Harper's Bazaar.
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  Speaker 4: It was this really cool magazine back in the day
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  Speaker 4: called Suede. It was just always fashion and writing. And
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  Speaker 4: then just being, you know, a plus size girl, it
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  Speaker 4: was just nothing, you know, I didn't have any like,
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  Speaker 4: anything I could kind of resonate to. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm about to just figure this out on my own.
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  Speaker 4: And I started a blog. It was like really high
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  Speaker 4: fashion at first. And then I remember this girl, she's
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  Speaker 4: really popular. Her name is Gabby Fry. She interviewed me
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  Speaker 4: on her blog.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what?
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  Speaker 4: I need to start talking about stuff that actually relates
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  Speaker 4: to me. So then that's when I decided, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be a plus size blogger. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this is before Instagram. This is like between that era
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  Speaker 4: of like MySpace and Facebook. I just only had Facebook
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  Speaker 4: to kind of promote myself. And then my blog just
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  Speaker 4: started taking off and taking off. And then when Instagram
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  Speaker 4: came about, I think that's like, you know, just when
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  Speaker 4: everything just kind of started falling into place. And I'm like, dang,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's 2023, 15 years later, and the internet
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  Speaker 4: just allowed me to do so much cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: 15 years you've been doing this.
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  Speaker 4: That's a long time. When's the last time you worked
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  Speaker 4: for somebody? So 2018, March 2018, that was like my
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  Speaker 4: last real job. I worked for Sprint, and I just
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  Speaker 4: went to work one day, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Was just like, fuck this.
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  Speaker 4: Literally went to work. I had just came back from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 4: I had like a great weekend. I hated my manager.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you, Freddie. Not you saying people names.
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  Speaker 4: Freddie is a huge fan of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck you, Freddie. Her own ass is not watching this show.
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  Speaker 2: That's the name of the episode.
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  Speaker 4: But no, I just went to work one day and
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, I had no plan at all.
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  Speaker 4: I knew I had a certain amount of money rolling
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  Speaker 4: in for the next two months, but I had quit
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  Speaker 4: Sprint and then I was like, okay, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: Being an influencer full time, I remember like May 2018,
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  Speaker 4: that was like the first time I paid like all
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  Speaker 4: my bills with just like influencer money.
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  Speaker 2: And I was crying. I was like, damn, I can
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  Speaker 2: do this like for real. But yeah, it's been a
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  Speaker 2: long road.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, dang, you know, all the stuff
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  Speaker 4: I really wanted to do, like in some shape, form
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  Speaker 4: or fashion, it came true. You know, like I didn't
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  Speaker 4: write for like a fashion magazine, but I still got
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  Speaker 4: the fulfillment doing things like my own way, telling my
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  Speaker 4: own story.
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  Speaker 1: We got 50 million questions for you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: But first, we got to get into our stupid internet news. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: please have a sip of that Simply Lemon.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all, I am so excited to try this. I saw
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  Speaker 4: this like on Twitter. Okay, let's see, let's see, let's see.
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  Speaker 2: What'd you do?
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  Speaker 1: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It tastes just like the regular like lemonade,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a little.
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  Speaker 1: But it's going to get you a little.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to slow down.
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  Speaker 1: And it does. It does.
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  Speaker 2: In a real way.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you a little buzz.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. All right, stupid internet news. All right, so I
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  Speaker 1: got to start with Jonathan Majors.
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  Speaker 2: My husband. Introduce him properly, please. I'm Mrs.
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  Speaker 1: Majors. Okay, Mrs. Majors.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to do the story about Jonathan Majors? No,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: You can go ahead. I did a public statement already.
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  Speaker 2: Because he was in.
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  Speaker 1: Some trouble this weekend, this past weekend. He was accused
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  Speaker 1: of assaulting his real girlfriend. I don't think he was there.
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  Speaker 1: According to DMZ, law enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck is DMZ? The DMV. DB.
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  Speaker 1: According to TMZ, excuse me, law enforcement says that the
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  Speaker 1: alleged victim accusing Jonathan Majors of assault is his girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: The couple was reportedly in a taxi when the argument started.
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  Speaker 1: They reportedly got into the altercation after his girlfriend called
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  Speaker 1: another woman texting... The actor's phone.
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  Speaker 2: And who was the other woman?
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  Speaker 1: That was you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It was me. It was me. I wonder if
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  Speaker 2: it was a black girl texting him.
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  Speaker 1: I think, cause listen, I imagine that this man has
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  Speaker 1: not gotten attention from black women.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see his before pictures?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a glow up. It's a major glow up.
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  Speaker 3: He's almost a clone, right? Listen, I love Jonathan Majors.
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  Speaker 3: I be posting him on my story. Like that's my,
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  Speaker 3: and people were actually sending me like this clip, these, uh, Articles, like,
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  Speaker 3: this is my actual.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, like, this is my real nigga. Like, yes. No,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen him in person. He's that, right? He is,
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  Speaker 2: but I just can't believe he liked white girls. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he has a job by a white woman.
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  Speaker 1: I think he liked who liked him until recently. And
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  Speaker 1: now he's getting the attention of the women he probably
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  Speaker 1: really wanted in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: He guilty. He is not guilty. It hasn't been proven.
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  Speaker 1: But he was the one that called the police.
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  Speaker 2: He called the police. Yes. But why are you walking
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  Speaker 2: out the courtroom? Why are you saying the black man guilty?
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  Speaker 2: What happened? I'm confused.
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  Speaker 4: But why are you walking out of court with a
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  Speaker 4: shirt or a hat that said freedom or something on it?
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  Speaker 1: Freedom?
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  Speaker 3: We all want freedom. Maybe he's done with these white women.
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  Speaker 3: He about to come on home to the motherland.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Come on home, Jonathan. We like
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  Speaker 2: you now.
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  Speaker 1: We like you now.
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  Speaker 2: He has that civil rights look.
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  Speaker 1: He does have a civil rights.
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  Speaker 2: He does. He gives real like slave rights. Civil rights.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's that kind of father.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen black men in a frenzy like this
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to this black man, for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: I saw black men condemning him already.
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  Speaker 3: Like, y'all remember the black guy who got murdered by
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  Speaker 3: his white girlfriend in Miami?
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  Speaker 2: Was that last year?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was Nigerian.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, and he had spent a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: disparaging black women on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: From high school.
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  Speaker 3: You know, black men were even, like, coming... to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: coming back for him. But Jonathan Majors is like, y'all
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  Speaker 3: really hate this nigga.
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  Speaker 2: For what reason? Is he that fine? Just stay the
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  Speaker 2: man fine so we can move on.
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  Speaker 1: He is that fine.
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  Speaker 2: He's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I like his nose spread all the way across his face.
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  Speaker 1: Like a bell pepper.
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  Speaker 2: Give me that Jackson 5. Love bell peppers. Sauteed. We
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  Speaker 2: shall see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there's a clip that's out. I know y'all
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  Speaker 1: saw it. I know y'all saw it. A guy went around.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he has a podcast, but he
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  Speaker 1: was outside with his video camera. But he went around
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  Speaker 1: asking people, did they want to get a dinner with
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  Speaker 1: Soulja Boy or $ 250 in food stamps? And everybody that
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  Speaker 1: they posted, because I don't imagine everybody said $ 250 in
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  Speaker 1: food stamps, but everybody that he posted was like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who is Soulja Boy? I get $ 250 in booze.
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  Speaker 2: They playing Big Draco. They playing him. I would definitely
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  Speaker 2: go to dinner with Soulja Boy. Yeah, like, come on,
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  Speaker 2: we talking. He was a major, like, marketing guru in
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  Speaker 2: middle school.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if people realize that or not. Like,
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  Speaker 3: he really got shit popping on YouTube for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of artists.
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  Speaker 2: And they disrespecting him. I know he look a little, like,
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  Speaker 2: crackheadish now, but Soulja Boy always been the shit as
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  Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. I would definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I would have went to dinner with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. $ 250? $ 250? $ 500?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, she's expensive as fuck. You ain't going to get
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  Speaker 2: a carton of eggs or milk. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You're not even going to get that much for $ 250.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever your choice of meeting.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to play him, really.
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  Speaker 4: I would have went to the dinner just so I
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  Speaker 4: could laugh. I just think he's like a character. I
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  Speaker 4: know he's going to smell like cigarettes in there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be telling us about how he shot
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  Speaker 1: up some shit. I was like, fuck.
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  Speaker 4: He was the first person to do this.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, boo.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for it. I think the majority of people
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  Speaker 1: would have went to dinner with Soulja Boy versus $ 250
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  Speaker 1: of food stamps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they was definitely playing Soulja Boy. I like Soulja Boy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, stop playing with Soulja.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I got a funny story. So this guy used
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  Speaker 2: to date.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know, maybe five years after we met,
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  Speaker 3: he admitted to me that he actually hacked my Facebook page.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, you was in that message
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  Speaker 3: and Soulja Boy.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what? What? I'm driving from Chicago back
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  Speaker 2: to St. Louis like, what the fuck you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going years back and my Facebook messages, at this
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  Speaker 3: time I'm not even on Facebook but I still have it.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you driving?
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  Speaker 3: While I'm driving, I'm in 2000, I don't know, 10 at.
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  Speaker 2: This point in messages. And I see a message to
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  Speaker 2: Soulja Boy that says, Soulja Boy, I love you so much. Bitch,
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  Speaker 2: it was my niece. My niece messaged Soulja Boy from
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  Speaker 2: my Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: And a nigga that hacked my Facebook, he was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you was out here trying to pop that pussy for
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  Speaker 3: Soulja Boy.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what? Why are you that deep in the messages, bro?
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  Speaker 2: Why did you go that far back?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, why did you.
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  Speaker 2: Hack my shit? I don't even want to see my
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  Speaker 2: Facebook messages from that time.
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  Speaker 1: Lord Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: And he had to have hacked my shit, like, When
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  Speaker 2: he just met me.
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  Speaker 1: Have y'all ever been in a celebrity's DMs?
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  Speaker 2: Kanye, I'm always telling him to call me.
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  Speaker 3: Like, nigga, call me so we can talk about what
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  Speaker 3: the fuck is going on and give you some advice.
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  Speaker 2: I used to message Rick Ross a lot, but he
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  Speaker 2: used to write me back.
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  Speaker 1: I used to message Rick Ross.
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  Speaker 2: But Ross would really write me back, though.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't say shit to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I met him before. I was so in
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  Speaker 2: love with him. Like, I was.
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  Speaker 4: That's where my name came from, Mia the Boss.
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  Speaker 2: Because I wanted to be, like... Oh, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember why I was messaging him. I think
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  Speaker 1: he was in town or something.
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  Speaker 2: I loved him.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to be, like, the black bottle girl because
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  Speaker 4: I just wanted that varsity jacket.
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  Speaker 1: And he was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, start posting, put it into work. I was like, nigga,
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  Speaker 2: send me the champagne. Right. Period. I just wanted the jacket.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to post that shit.
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  Speaker 1: Rick Ross, if you're listening, I still love you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was definitely very, very young when that happened. When
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  Speaker 1: I jumped in there. Just on some bullshit. I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even serious. Unless he responded.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, nigga, I have a birthday coming up.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? You're a Gemini?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She and Kanye have the same birthday.
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  Speaker 3: He needs some real guidance and he needs some real friends.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to be Kanye's friend.
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  Speaker 1: Kanye and AJ want to be your friend.
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  Speaker 2: I just saw this come up. Aaron Hernandez's brother.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all remember the former NFL player
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  Speaker 3: who actually committed suicide in prison after.
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  Speaker 2: Being convicted of multiple murders.
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  Speaker 3: His brother apparently threw a brick through ESPN's headquarters. And
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  Speaker 3: with a note attached, it says, to all media outlets,
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  Speaker 3: it's about time you all realize, he spelled it R-E-A-L-E-Y-E-S,
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  Speaker 3: that the effect.
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  Speaker 2: Real eyes. Real eyes, yes. That's your content.
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  Speaker 3: He like third eye in the middle of the forehead,
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  Speaker 3: like y'all niggas need to realize the effect media has
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  Speaker 3: on all family members. Since you're a worldwide leader, maybe
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  Speaker 3: you could lead how media and messages are delivered brick
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  Speaker 3: by brick.
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  Speaker 2: Clean it up. Yours truly, Dennis J. Hernandez. So, of course,
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  Speaker 2: he's been arrested.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: He admitted to being at ESPN but didn't wish to
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  Speaker 3: speak about the incident. Dennis was advised to stay off
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  Speaker 3: ESPN's campus or.
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  Speaker 2: He could get arrested. Oh, actually, so he wasn't arrested yet.
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  Speaker 2: He could get arrested or charged with trespassing. They feel
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  Speaker 2: bad for him.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of sad. That whole situation is a sad one.
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  Speaker 2: Do y'all think he committed suicide? That whole story just spiraled.
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  Speaker 2: Did y'all watch the Netflix special when it came out?
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  Speaker 1: You know, because that brings up a conversation about CTE
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. Because there was a guy in
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte just recently, last year, who he was an ex-NFL player.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know his name. I can't think of it.
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  Speaker 1: But a newly ex-NFL player who had some mental illness
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. And he killed his doctor, his
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  Speaker 1: doctor's wife. And they're two grandkids.
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  Speaker 2: And a housekeeper. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and people working on the air conditioning outside. Oh, wait.
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  Speaker 2: I saw this in the news. Oh, my goodness. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know that was in Charlotte, though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In Fort Mill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Fort Mill, like right outside of Charlotte. And
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  Speaker 1: it just brings up a conversation about CT and what
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  Speaker 1: those boys putting their body through to get that money, man.
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  Speaker 1: Because do you think Aaron Hernandez would have been the
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  Speaker 1: way he was had he not been in sports?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I think, did you watch that documentary?
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  Speaker 2: He was a killer. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Was he a killer before he got into NFL? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he might have been.
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  Speaker 3: And when you add money to ego and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 3: people get kind of wild. I feel like oftentimes celebrities,
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  Speaker 3: people in sports and stuff like that, they kind of
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  Speaker 3: go under the radar. They are not exempt from being
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  Speaker 3: serial killers and sociopaths and psychopaths.
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  Speaker 2: They're not exempt. But nobody's looking at them. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: So they actually have the means to get away with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the shit.
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  Speaker 2: They could be serial killers, but nobody looking at them.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I remember there was like a decapitated body found
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  Speaker 3: in Hollywood Hills, like a Middle Eastern person.
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck did it? Nobody ever got arrested for it.
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  Speaker 3: But they just, when you got a bunch of money,
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  Speaker 3: you sitting around thinking like, damn, what have I not done?
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  Speaker 1: Right, what would be fun?
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah. That's scary.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's how they be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Is that how we end in stupid internet news?
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: It's sin, bitch. Murder.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: It's sin.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Murder, murder. Y'all, we're going to take a break on
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: that note.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Okay, guys, we're back. And we're
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: not talking about that crazy ass shit no more. I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: want to talk to you, Mia.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: All right. So let's talk about relationships.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: And being full figure. All right.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Let's talk. All right.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: So first, let me ask you, do you like the
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: word full figure or do you prefer something?
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: I just feel like there is just so many words
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: that people have just added. I mean, plus size is cool.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: I know some people don't like that. Some people don't
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: like the word fat. I just feel like full figure.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Is just too much. It's too much talking. Like it's
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: too many words. Plus size.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: So you would be OK if I said fat? I
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: feel like that's offensive.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I'm fighting.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: If another fat girl calls me fat, if another fat
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: girl calls me fat, I'm cool with it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: See, it's like one of those things.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: It has like a, it can have like a positive
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: and a negative like connotation, but plus.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Size is just like, you know, the word society has deemed,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: you know, like, so we go with that one.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Plus size versus full figure.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when people start saying voluptuous and all that other stuff,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: just stop.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: It's just too much.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: You're doing too much?
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Too much.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: So do you feel like, have you ever felt like
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: being plus size has hindered you from having successful relationships
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: or finding a partner, your forever partner?
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, in some aspects, I mean, for the record,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I get niggas. Period.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: But for the record, we all consider plus size based
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: on the.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: BMI and all the nerd child. Size 12. No, seriously.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: That's most black women.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: We speak that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I always feel like that's... So when it comes to
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: like that, like I know like people always say like
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: plus size. I remember like they tried to kill me
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: on Twitter and they told me I had pretty plus
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: size privilege.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all just adding labels and stuff. Yeah, that's
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: a whole nother topic.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I feel like, yes, being a plus
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: size woman, there are things, you know, that you I
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: had to learn.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I'm 34 now. I'm not everybody's type,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: just like everybody isn't my type.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: But I just feel like it all kind of goes
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: by how you present stuff. I remember I had this
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: guy tell me, I was trying to talk to his friend,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: he was like, oh, he don't like big girls. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, fuck you then. I mean, okay, whoop-dee-doo.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: It wasn't going to hurt my feelings, but I think
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: maybe when I was in middle school, high school, it
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: was a little bit different. But just now, just kind
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: of coming to know what I like, I can see
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: the issues people have and just because I feel like maybe,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not in a successful relationship, but I mean,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I've been able to like navigate dating.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You just have to date who likes you.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: So I think that's the thing that people have to
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: also understand too, is like, you can't get mad if
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: like a guy that you're going after or a girl
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: you're going after, if they don't like you based off
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: your physical appearance. I mean, cause, cause I can be like,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't like skinny light-skinned dudes.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I like dark skinned. Guys, so somebody could easily. That
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: is a very nice. I have my own. His hair
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: is really nice.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: So it's like, I think like I see that, like,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: you know, the struggles and even like for myself, sometimes
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I just be like, okay, what if I look different?
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe like you would like me, but I'd be like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: why would you want to change? The way you look
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: to fit, you know. Or, you know, like, I've had guys, like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: say stuff. Because, I mean, I had, my weight has, like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: fluctuated and things like that. And now, like, I've really
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: been in the gym. I remember this dude was, like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: in my Snapchat DMs.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And, like, somebody used to fuck with it. Like, for real.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, I see you. You're losing weight.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And then he would make, like, little comments. Like, oh,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: when are you going to get your body done? I'm like,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: you're not the nigga for me.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Period. Right.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And even if I decided to do that, like, what
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: would ever in your life make you think I would
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: talk to you again? You can't even touch the new body,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the current body. Like, ugh. Right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: So, mm.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: So do you feel like body positivity? sometimes promotes an
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: unhealthy lifestyle? Because there's a conversation about that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I think the whole body positivity movement has been totally
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: gentrified and it's just a shit show now. I remember
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: when that whole movement came about, it was supposed to
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: empower women who go beyond the regular size, plus size women,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: just to love themselves, to embrace themselves. Now I always
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: see the argument people say when it comes like, oh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: it's promoting unhealthiness. But it's just like, OK, like nobody
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: says anything to people who, you know, who are anorexic
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. I just I don't
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: know what society's thing is about always picking on fat people.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I just don't get I'm like if they're happy, you know, whatever. Now, me,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: on the other hand, I mean, yeah, there is I
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: feel like there's a point when, all right, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you're pre-diabetic, things like that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: But it's just like.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I don't think it promotes an unhealthy lifestyle. I think
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: it's just a community for people to feel like some
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: type of togetherness so they can just feel, you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: like feel some type of love, some type of sense
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of like belonging.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Cause growing up, I mean, I didn't have like any
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: type of positive plus size role models. I mean like Monique,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: no shade to her, but that wasn't somebody, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: who I looked up to like Monique and Nikki Parker and,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I just always felt like there was, every time it
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: was like a plus size person in the media, they.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Were always funny.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a joke.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: The big mama. Yeah. And I was just like, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'm cute. I'm glamorous.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I like fashion. There was never anything like that. So
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, wow, fast forward to today, you have
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: so much representation. So, but just kind of back in
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: what I said about it just being gentrified. Like when
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: you go to Instagram, you type in like hashtag body positivity,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: you'll see all these Caucasian women who might be like
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a size 12, And they're hunched over so they can
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: make their roles look pronounced. And they're like, oh, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: embrace my body. I'm like, girl, no. You don't, like,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: you can go on Zara and find something to wear,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: you know? Like, so I just feel like I've personally
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: just kind of like in my influencer journey, I've kind of,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I learned a lot.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: The plus size.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Community is very weird. And I just, I developed my
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: own lane. Once I kind of figured out, like, you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I found my niche of what I wanted to do.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I was just like, I don't really need all these
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: labels to define who I am. Like, you know what
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I'm doing, you know, it works for me.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Right. We all know men, men love plus size women.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I talked about this before, uh, I've talked about this before.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: How one of my exes, he would always cheat with.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I used to have a whole problem.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: If I were to saw you out in public somewhere,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, because.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I know my nigga would fuck you.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I know he likes this. You know what I'm saying?
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: That's so crazy. They think they would get shamed by
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: their friends.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: No, but some people have a BBW fetish. I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: men who have had big moms, that's what they're attracted to.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: That's my experience. Guys be like, I like big girls.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I like chubby girls.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sorry, baby.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not that one for you. This is different over here.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be fetishized or anything like that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Because you always know those guys who have those vibes.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, that's never going to be the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: guy for me. I just... that's just not what I like.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I go where I'm celebrated. Right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: But I mean, isn't that celebrating? You know, if you say,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I like chubby girls, I like big girls, that's a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: celebration to me.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: But it's like, those are, those guys are always real creepy. Like,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: every single time. Like, It's just, and that's another thing, too. Like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: it's one of those things. It's like, as a plus-size woman, like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: we experience that. And you're like, oh, here goes a
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: guy who has, like, the BBW obsession. And I hate
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: that term. I'm like, you ain't about to call me
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: a BBW. I am not a porn category.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: But, no, there's guys.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I embrace BBW a little bit. It's just so cringe
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: to me sometimes. I just feel like I'm not the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: typical plus-size girl. That's not what my brand's about. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: don't have to be on a soapbox every day.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Saying, I'm fat. This is my struggle. This is my fight.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And there are some girls. That's their thing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: What about Lizzo? How do you feel about Lizzo and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: her platform and how she feels like she is still?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I've always been just kind of on the fence about Lizzo.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Her music is great.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes she does, you know, she is
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: a little bit too extra, but it's just like, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the time that she came, like she is fitting that,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: she's fitting that role for, you know, society needed someone
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to fill that, you know, that role of like, you know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: she's a powerful plus size woman who, you know, makes
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: really good music, appeals to millions, the masses. There's nobody
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: else that's really ever, you know, been like her. So
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: for that, you know, I give it to her. Even
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: like the brand that she has called Yiddy, I mean,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I think that's really cool too. Cause I saw like
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: non plus size people are wearing it as well. But
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: it's just like, I just hate that as a plus
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: size woman, especially if someone who, you know, who's just
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: like in the, in the mainstream media, like you always
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: just have to talk about like, like your.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Fight and your struggle.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, but when she started working out, here goes
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: people talking about like, Oh, you're, you're trying to lose weight.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, it's like, you damned. If you do,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you damned your dough.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: It's like, you're going to condemn me if I'm fat
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and you're telling me you need to lose weight, you
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: need to work out. And then boom, you see me
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: working out. oh, you're trying to lose too much weight.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: You're going to lose your fan base. You're not really promoting.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: So it's just like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And black people say you're going to look like a crackhead.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: You lose too much weight.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And that's the other thing too. I hate that for her.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to lose that weight?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: That's what black people say. First of all, I don't
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: believe in big bones.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: No, it's scientific. There is nobody that's big boned. Like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio. I didn't hear none of these
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: phrases until I moved to Charlotte when I was 12.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, big bone, red bone, what is all
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: these bones in the South?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Like, everybody's just making up all this stuff. And then
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I was like, ain't nobody got no big bones. Like
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I said, when we died, like, all of our skeletons, baby,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: we look the same, okay?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Skeletons gonna be just in there frantic. So you don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: feel like losing weight will hurt your brain?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: At one point, so, like, in 2016, I had weight
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: loss surgery. And I lost, like, a good amount of weight.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: But I was very scared about it because I didn't
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: want to lose weight, like, too fast.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: My dad was like, you're going to look like Star Jones.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: She looks good now, though.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Her head was so big. So that was, like, my
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: worst fear. I didn't want to have, like, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: like that drastic fear. That drastic change. I mean, over time,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you know, like I started gaining weight back. But then
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: like two years ago, I really ignited my need. I just,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you know, just going to the gym is something that
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I like. But that was always, you know, a common thing. Like, oh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: you're trying to lose weight. You know, because at the
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: time my blog was called Diary of a Fat Shanista.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: They're like, you know, how are you going to try it?
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: I hate when you want to get skinny. I can
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: never see myself, you know, being skinny.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm 5'10. I weigh like 315 right now.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: 314 actually, but I could just never see myself like
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: being skinny. I mean, I've always, you know, I built
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the brand upon being a plus size girl, showing plus
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: size girls, you know, to be confident, to be sexy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: You can do, you know, anything like your weight doesn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: define you. Just be unapologetically you. And even now, like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm older. I'm just like, you know, people change.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: So it's like you can't hold people to the same
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: place that they were, you know, 10 years ago. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: if somebody decides, you know, make that change, at the
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: end of the day, you know, it's like we're responsible
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: for ourselves. Like, my health was always going to come
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: before a brand or, you know, an image I'm trying
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: to uphold.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And then just the same way, you know, you get
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: brand deals, you'll get other brand deals.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Everything's about evolution and transforming.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: When Tim and I came up, you know, we thought
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: about this episode. You remember.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: The girl, Monique, her and her boyfriend off of Love
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: After Love.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I don't watch the show, but I've seen enough on
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Instagram to know what everything's about.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Like, we were, like, thinking about that because I'm looking
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: at the comments online.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, like, why do y'all think she can't get him? Like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: look at him. Like, what the fuck are y'all seeing? Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: And so she took the social media and she was like,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know why people are so obsessed with my
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: weight and my relationship with Derek. Y'all get on the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: internet and be fake caring about mental health and protecting
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: black women. And all I see on these blog sites
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: is black men and women in the comments bullying another
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: black woman about her weight. This show was filmed months ago.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Me and Derek have been together almost three years. He
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: loves it here, okay?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: We're living our truth. Love is love. She concluded.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Like, why do y'all feel like I don't know a
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: plus-size woman who doesn't have a man and who has
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: not had a man before?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Ever. Right.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I say the same thing.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, everybody got a man.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So shit. That's how I feel.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I just, I think it just, it just really bothers people.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Cause like, I feel like whenever someone sees like a
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: plus size woman who's happy, I'm sorry, who's happy and
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: she's thriving, you know, she's confident.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It just, it bothers them.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Like my biggest pet peeve is when someone says, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: admire your confidence. I'm like, you wouldn't say that to
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: somebody who wasn't big.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And they have low self esteem oftentimes.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: And people, and they don't, and they don't know that
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: that's really like a dig. Like I admire your confidence.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: So like, I used to always go in on people.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I used to be like the Rihanna clapback queen on Instagram.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: But now I'm just like, I'm just living my life.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't care.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: But it's just like, I don't see why people care. Like,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you know, if they're together and they're happy, you know, why, like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: why is that affecting your life?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: How is that going to change your current situation?
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: It's just, they just don't understand the dynamics.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And they're just like, well, how, or what if I'm
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: just like, let them be happy.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Like they got a lot of drama, but if it's
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: broken for them, like, why do y'all care?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Right. But when someone says they admire your confidence, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: don't think they mean it as a dig because I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: feel like people assume that if you're plus size, that
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to, not feel love yourself or not be happy.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: That's why it's a dig though. Yeah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Because it's like to some, so like, they'll be like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you're so brave for wearing that dress. I admire your confidence.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: And I just be thinking like, if it was somebody like,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like Ari, y'all are not telling her
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: you admire her confidence. So that's why. So it's a
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: lot of comments sometimes. I'm just like, that's, it's like
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: people think it's not, it's not like, you know, a
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: dig or it's not negative, but it actually is.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm just like, why would you say that to me?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: It's like, I know that I'm a confident person, but
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: it's like, you don't have to say that to a person.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Cause like, cause in their brain, they think like, wow,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: she put that dress on. Like she is so brave
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: for doing that. And I'm just like, I wear what
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I want to wear. I look the fuck good.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Period.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have on some risque stuff on social media.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And do you ever get like people under the, in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the comments, like talking shit, like women or men?
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Men are always going to like suck it. They just
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: going to be creeps. But sometimes like, it's so funny. Um,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I blocked so many keywords on Instagram. So if you
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: even try to leave a certain word, it's not going
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: to go through.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: You got fat blocked? No, no. So like the, um,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: The biggest thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Wait, you can block words on social media?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Girl, yes. I have a list. Yeah. Like, if you
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: try to comment it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: So ever since I became, like, this internet person, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: don't know, like, they have always been obsessed with me
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: not wearing a bra.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I just feel like who fucking cares? I just looked
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: at your titties.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I have so many questions. So I had to block
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the word boob, sagging, bra. I blocked all those words.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And, like, even, like, the other week, because, like, if
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I post something, they're like, oh, what boob tape are
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you wearing?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, baby, it's gravity. Like, they just always have
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: a question about that. But, like, that's the thing. They'd
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, she doesn't have a bra on or, like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: she needs shapewear. I'm just like, I don't, yeah, I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: just like, why do y'all care so much about what
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: somebody does for their body? I'm like, and another thing, too,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: that I always laugh about, I'm like, at the end
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: of the day, everything I post is for a check.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: So it's just like, what you're saying does not bother me. Like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I'm getting paid, like, you know, to do this. Like,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: this is, you know, what we're here for. So I just,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: a long time ago, I'm just, like, just so thankful that, like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: the place I used to be in maybe, like, 10,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: 12 years ago It's just like, that shit does not
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: even bother me now.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: It doesn't faze me. And I'm just like, damn, I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: just so, this is good.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I used to be like, kind of just like really
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: just into all the like, oh my God, they're talking
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: about me.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, I could never be famous. Like, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: just want them.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I don't really care about you know being being famous
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: because like it can bother you like it fucks with
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: your mental sometimes especially like you know when that's what
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you do for a living.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So so all right we have to like all right
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: they telling us like y'all need to be more active
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: on social y'all and me and AJ.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Are just You got to.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Not social media people, but we're trying to be. No,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: we like that in real life. Right. Do you ever
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: feel like a slave to it? I'm already starting to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: feel like a slave.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: There are times when I'm just like, I want to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: take a week off. And to even say I wanted
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: to take a week off of Instagram is crazy because
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: that's a long time.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. You want to jump out the algorithm after
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: a week, probably.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Well, like, I did it once, and it kind of
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: helped my, this was a while ago, but it's just like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: when you work with different brands, and then say you, okay, like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: for one brand, like, say that you have to post
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: eight times a month.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And then if you take off, like, you know, a week, it's.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Like you're pushing your work back, which is also going
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: to negatively impact the way that you get paid.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm just like, fuck this shit.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I just need a break. I just want to detach. Like,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I deleted the Instagram app off my phone. Like, I
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: just didn't want to see Instagram. It's like we just
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: get so consumed in it. It's like you have to
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: really make, like, a conscious effort to be like, you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: that's why I had to unfollow, like, a lot of the,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: you know, the blogs. I'm like, I can't, like, consume this.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I wanted to just start surrounding, like, my feed with
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: people that I admire, people who motivate me. And once
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I kind of, you know, changed that mindset a few
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: years ago, like, it worked. But, yeah, you do become
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: a slave to it because it's like everyone, social media
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: in some shape, form, or fashion, like, it's part of, like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you know, our job.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And it also builds a false narrative, in
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: my opinion, because it's just, like, not real life. People
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: are posting hyper life moments all the time, and that's it. Like, even, like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: when you go out, if y'all posting, y'all, like, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: as soon as the camera go off.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: You better see. I'm just quiet, smoking hookah, nobody in
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the section's talking.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: No, I hate that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's so fake.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Especially living in Atlanta, like, child, I have seen it
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: all out here.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It's superficial as fuck.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, Atlanta is the worst. I don't even feel like
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Atlanta have fun when they go out. I feel like
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: everybody just go out to look good and just look
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: at each other.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And steal people's credit card numbers. Child. Be careful. Be careful.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: But, no, the false narrative thing, that's the one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I think it's like I've always just been just overly
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: authentic with my brand. And that's, I think, you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I always kind of wanted to be like that big sister.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, hey, girl. I'd be like, hey, fashionistas.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: So then it's like when I see, you know, as
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: Instagram has changed, especially living in this wicked city, it's
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: like I just see so much.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, damn.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all be on Instagram with the APs and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the cars.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Y'all be in Miami. Y'all don't even have.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Nowhere to live.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, and we forgot about this in Stupid Internet News.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Now you can buy your blue check on Instagram, okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: for $ 14.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: 99 a month. And do you know how long, like...
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want it. I want it the real way, okay?
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I tried to go through, like, that process, like, before, but, like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Instagram was so strict about that. Like, you had to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: be published and... you know, and articles and I was
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: trying to, you know, do stuff. So then that's when
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I learned people was like buying their way into Forbes
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: and all that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I know the people who paid 10 grand for a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: blue check. It's probably pissed off.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Like it's $ 15 a month.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And now you can be verified. I just don't understand.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I feel like that used to be
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: something that like, you know, it did validate like your accolades,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: but now the fact that you can buy it.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I don't even want it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want it no more.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I don't want it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Like I think they only, they still only extended to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: certain people also though. I don't think just anybody still
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: can just purchase the blue check. I definitely don't want
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: it if I can't get the original.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw a pop up on Instagram or whatever
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: saying that it was offering it, but I was just like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I didn't get no email.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you got an email? I'm like, girl, I
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: don't want that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: That's like buying followers too, though. Buying a bunch of followers.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And it's obvious.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: It's so obvious.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: You got 90,000 followers.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: And you got 200 likes. Yeah, that's not real. Zero comments.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Your engagement don't match, my nigga.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Everyone just has this need to just be so poppin'
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: and just on Instagram or whatever social media you're on.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just like.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: But it's all about people wanting to be loved. That's
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: what it boils down to.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: That is fake love to me. That's not real love.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I have more fulfillment from people in.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: My real life. I don't need validation from social media.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, everyone is just not like that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: They want to seem like they're popping. That's the metaverse.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: You could be somebody different online. I have a tough
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: time with that because I am the same person online
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: that I am in real life.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I can't be nobody else.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I think that was probably one of the most difficult
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: things about just kind of navigating social media and even
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: social media friendships when I first moved out here. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: was just so excited to meet like us. Oh, there's
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: all these other girls who are plus size or influencers.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: You know, they got businesses. And then I just really
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and then when you really get down to the nitty gritty,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: it was like it was this one girl. I was like, oh,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: my God, like she really was just trying to like
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: steal my whole personality and my life and the dudes I.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Was talking to and stuff.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: And I always, because people always say, when you move
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: to Atlanta, you're going to learn your one Atlanta lesson.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: And I was like, that was my Atlanta lesson. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: was like, these girls are crazy. Like, they don't, they
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: just want to be your friend to figure out why
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: your light shines so bright. Like, why is she popping? Like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: why are these dudes doing this for her? Why is
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: she going here? Like, why is this brand working with her?
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: And I think that's like one of the green naive
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: things about me. It's just like, I'm just overly genuine.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: So it's like, sometimes I'm just like, damn, people really
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: don't do have bad intentions.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: They don't really fuck with you. So, I'm just like, damn,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you know, this city really taught me a lot. Thank you, Atlanta.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: But do you want to stay in Atlanta?
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That is like the big question.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I've been here since June 2019. I mean, I've been
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: coming to Atlanta for like years before that, like to
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: hang out, party, and all of that. Atlanta pre-COVID was great.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: During COVID, post-COVID, it's trash.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Like, it's just... Everybody moved here because we were open.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: You know, we had lockdown. This is like Mad Max.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You remember that movie?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: We had lockdown for like two and a half months.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: And then everything was, you know, like we was open.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Like it was lit. Atlanta, Texas, and Florida, we was
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: the only people that was really doing stuff. But I
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: don't know. Like I feel like this is not a
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: city for love whatsoever. You is not going to find
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: your man out here. If you find your man, he
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: already got a– he got a– a wife, a girlfriend,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: he might have a man too.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: That's wild. No, Atlanta is not the place. He might
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: have a man too.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: When I moved to Atlanta back in 2010, I'm actually
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: on a date with a man.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: We're still good friends to this day too.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I'm on a date with him and he's like, yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Atlanta ain't a place to find a mate.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why the fuck we here then? I'm trying
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: to make, nigga. Why are we here?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: No, let me tell y'all a story. When I was
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: living here, I met this guy. He was like, let's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: go to the movies. We went to the movies, right?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: We're pulling up to the movie theater. We park in
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the space. A car pulls right beside us real fast, right?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And I was like, you ain't got no bitches that's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Jump out and try to fight me, do you?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, shit, ain't no telling.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: What? Take me home, nigga. I'm not about to do that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Because it's like three type of.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Men in Atlanta. You have the homeless ones. You have
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the not-so-heterosexual ones. And then you have the ones that
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: got their shit together and they have their pick out
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: of how many different women?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: And then you got the Africans. That's a whole different genre?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: That's a whole other ballgame out here, baby. What the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Africans be doing? The Africans should love you, right?
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: No, and I think that's another thing, too. It's kind
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: of like I found... I mean, sorry, I don't date
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: black American men no more. I'm not against it. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: just haven't dated one in so long. I just don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: want to, especially being here. I mean, a long time ago,
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't like foreign guys. But then when I started meeting,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: coming to Atlanta, meeting Nigerian guys.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Was that coming to America? Coming to Atlanta. Coming to Atlanta. No,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: From like just having like girlfriends up to like who
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: are African. I was just like, Oh, I mean, that's
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: what they like. But then it's kind of like, you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: you go where you're celebrating, not where you're tolerating. It's like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: I didn't have to, to deal with like, like just
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: BS no more. It's like, it's just their culture and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: their nature to be, to be a real man. But
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: the downside about this shit is they cheat like hell.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: They might have a wife in Africa, a wife in Duluth,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: a girlfriend.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Like, it's a lot.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: But these niggas, these American niggas, they just cheating and
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: they ain't got shit but the dick and do-rag for you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: That's it. And a pull-up bar, bitch. That's it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm just like, it's just damned if
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: you don't. But it's just funny because I remember like...
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: it's like this little blog, people go and talk shit
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: about people. They were like, oh, she only date, she
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: only like Nigerians because they like big girls.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, bitch, why do you fucking care? You jealous? Right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I mean, like, they treat their women well,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: but I was just like, why would I just, you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: I know my worth, but it's like, if there's somebody
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: who likes me, you know, because of me, It's like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I don't have to feel uncomfortable. Sometimes even being in Atlanta,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I have my group of friends, the Instagram girls, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: bottle girls, they go out and I just be like,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I don't really have nothing in common with y'all. It's like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: I like y'all and everything, but it's like the struggles
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: y'all be dealing with.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: They be acting.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: You see them change. And I be cracking up too.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, we all go through the same shit here.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, y'all date these rappers and these athletes
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: and whatever.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You still be having the same drama. So that's why
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I was just like.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: And that was one of the things that made me realize,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I was like, it don't got nothing to do with
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: what you look like. Because everyone is still dealing with
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: the same shit.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: You know, from dudes.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, you know, you may get a
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: little more slack for being a big girl. And I
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: see like, you know, the things that like other girls
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: go through, just from like the stories that they tell me.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: And just like crazy stuff I just read like on
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: the internet. I was like, damn, he did that. But
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: it's just like, it's just so many stereotypes. Like income
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: tax time, and I'm like, I'm sorry. I tell people
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: all the time, I be like, I can't relate. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: have never related to half the shit that I've heard.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Right, I always have to pay.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, y'all gotta do- I ain't filed my
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: shit yet.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: How much time I got? The 15th? April 15th, baby.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But I got a girl, too, if you need somebody.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: But no, it's just like, it's a lot of things.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I can't relate to that. So I'm like, if you
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: want to call it, what that girl told me on Twitter,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: she's like, you have pretty plus size privilege. And I
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: was like, I'll be the president of that club then, baby.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Sorry. I'm like, I can't relate. They just always try
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: to find a way to divide. Yeah, to divide stuff.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: You know, there's like a phrase called small fats and
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: big fats. Like if you're on the smaller side of
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: like being plus size.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just like. Bitch, one more burger, we out here.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: It's just so many different things. I just didn't know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here thinking in my brain, like I'm
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: just out here just existing. Just, you know, I'm like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I put myself as a black woman before I put
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: myself as a fat black woman. And here y'all go
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: trying to say, oh, you're like a smaller fat.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, please stop. Stop.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Stop trying to box me in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is really good? What's going on? They
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: don't know. They don't know at all. I'm like, that's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: your community. I don't need that. Right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: My sister, she's a big girl, and she does not like,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: like you were saying, like men who fetishize bigger women.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: She likes men who don't like big women. like she
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: feels like she's converting them.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It's just always something. I mean, I've, it is so funny.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Cause it's like, I, I, um, I've dated guys or
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: like just met guys, went on dates with guys, whatever
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: this term we call it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Like, Oh, I never talked to a big girl before.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, I ain't about to be
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: your guinea pig.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Like, I just feel like when you, when you have
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: to like express that, it just, it just turned, it's
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: like automatic, just turn off, you know?
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, don't say that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Like I can, That reminds me of when I was younger,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: because now brown girls are popping, but when I was younger,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: niggas used to be like, you pretty for a brown girl.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: That shit used to irk my nerves so bad. Like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: what the fuck does that mean? And it's very similar
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty for a big girl. And I'd be cracking
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: and saying, oh, you have such a nice face. I'm like, nigga,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I got nice everything.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Like, what you talking about? It's just, it's weird.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: And then even like guys who try to like secretly
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: date big girls.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I remember like a while ago, Oh, what was that?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: It was a show, The Game, where one of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: football players, he was like secretly dating a big reporter,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: but didn't want to be seen out with her. He
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: liked her a whole lot.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was a show called The Game, right? Yeah. Oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: was that Malik?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Malik, yep.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: His character. Oh, I remember that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: And I just felt like, damn.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how can you just love this person, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: you just can't, you know, you can't be seen out?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, like out with them. I mean, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: remember I went through my whole little athlete phase when
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I lived in Charlotte. Thank God for deliverance.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Grace and mercy. Oh, Jesus.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: But I'm just like, how could you like, you know,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: how could you want to be around this person only
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: behind closed doors?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Like, right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: And it's like, there are some girls, you know, like
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: they're okay with that, but it's like, that doesn't number
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: to your confidence. It doesn't number to like your self-esteem,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: your mentality. Cause like, it really starts to fuck with you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: It's like, damn, like you can only try to come
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: over here and come see me or, you know, pull up,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: go come to the garage, come do this. I'm like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing none of that. It's like, I think
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: now that I'm older, I mean, I would never go
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: for that, but there have been times where I just
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: kind of be like, you know, cause like you just like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: you like this person so much and y'all like, y'all
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: having good sex and.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Like you're having fun, but it's just like, damn, we
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: can't even go. Like we can't do nothing. I'm like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I'm a bad bitch. Like what are you talking about?
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I need to be seen.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: So, I'm just like, no. And I'm like, girl, stand up.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Release the shackles of the sneaky of being snuck.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: If he can't celebrate you, girl, you got like, no.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: What's another movie that was kind of like that? Just
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Right with Queen Latifah in common?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: You don't know nothing about TV. I love it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Y'all don't know that movie? I love that movie.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that in so long. Was that like
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the thing? Like, because she was big?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: He was like, not public with her and she wasn't
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the other girl. Like, The other girl was, like, slim
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and cute.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: It's just, like, just, like, talking about these topics, I'm just, like, damn, like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: when I was, like, younger, like, 20 to, like, 23,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I just, like, I remember, like, just kind of, like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: things like that. But it's just, like, now I'm just, like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I don't experience that anymore. And, I mean, I feel like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: you know, for me to say that, I mean, I'm
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: always speaking about, like, my own experience. But I'm, like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just very unfortunate because I'm just, like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like, how I could even be mentally
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: if I was still in a situation like that.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? Ew?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Ew? All right, y'all. We're going to take a commercial break.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Dumb bitch stories.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You are so dumb. Because we've all been a dumb
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: bitch at least once or twice. We have a segment
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: called Dumb Bitch Story.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Which one do you want?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You got to tell us the best one.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: The best one that like really sticks out of my head.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: It's like this happened in November 2017. I'm like to
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: this day, I'm so pissed. And like the person who's
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: involved in the story, I saw him. He lives in
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: like my homeboys building. I was like, they live on
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: the same floor. So I walked past him. And I
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: was looking so cute that day too. So I was like, Oh,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I knew like, he kind of like remember who I was.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: So I was living in Charlotte. This dude like slid
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: in my DMs or whatever. And he was just like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: you know, just trying to talk to me. And that
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: is just like, like, so, you know, go to his page.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's cute. He'd be outside. Like, you know, having fun.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: He dresses nice.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Whatever. So we're just chatting. He was like, yeah, you
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: should come to Atlanta. Like, I'll take you out. We
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: can go to Gucci. I'm young as fuck. Just stupid
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: as fuck. So wait, how many years ago was that?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Six years ago.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: No.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You were that young, bitch. I was just stupid. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: was stupid. And just real green back then. He was like, yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'll buy you something.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: We'll go out to dinner. We can go out. He
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: was like, okay, so come to Atlanta. So I just
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: throw all my little shit, my little duffel bag. I
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: had an Altima at the time. I'm like, eh, I'm
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: going 85 to South, coming to Atlanta. Nigga was not
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: answering his phone.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Once you got here?
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like was not answering the phone. And I was
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: just like... WTF.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I thought I was about
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: to like, you know, either stay with you. Like we're,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: you know, like I had friends in like in Atlanta,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: but that's not what I came down here for.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I came down here to be wines and vine. And
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: here I am getting the climes. Did you go back home?
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Did you hear from him?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Girl, I ain't done yet.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: So I was just trying to kill time. So I
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: went and got my nails done. He still ain't answering
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: the phone. I'm like, okay, what the fuck? So then
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: at this point, it's getting kind of late. I'm just like,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: all right, let me just go get a hotel. So
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I can just, you know, whatever. But then at this point,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, when you're kind of like about
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: to cry.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: You're like.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: And I'm like calling my friend and she was like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: first of all, bitch, why would you even do that?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like... It's Alana.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: And then she was like, okay. She said, this is
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: what we gonna do. She said, you gonna go to
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the hotel. She said, you brought clothes to go out, right?
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: She said, you gonna go out. And at that time,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: like I wasn't really like going out like by myself.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: So I get to the hotel and I said, I
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: got a trick for this nigga. I called him from
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: like the phone in like the hotel. Cause it was
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: like a 404 number.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And he, he answered.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: I was just like, I was like, what the fuck?
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: And he was like, man, I'm out here making this play. Like,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like an hour.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I'm an hour. I'm an hour outside of Atlanta. Like,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: my phone. I was just like, why the fuck would
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: you tell me to come down here? 250 EBT. Right.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, why would you tell me to come
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: down here? If you make him tell me he making
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a play, that's a red flag.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: But the thing I was just like, you don't even, like.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Like making a play, like that's not... Anyways, so I
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: don't even know what happened. I was just like, you
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: know what, fuck you. I ended up going out by myself.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I was so mad because it's like I spent money
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: coming down here and that's not what I... You know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: that's not what I want to do. But it's like
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you always have.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: That fuck you money. Always.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Just in case. Don't leave home without it. But I mean.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: It ended up being like a really good night because
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I went out to, it was some club. It's not
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: even there no more. It's like over there near 1145.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I went out by myself. I was so scared.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I had to just like, my friend was like, just
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: get out the car. Because I was in the car
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: for like 30 minutes.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Just scared to go in the club by myself.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: So whenever I get like really, really, really scared, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: have to get drunk. Like, because when you're drunk, it's
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: just like, you're like.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Anything goes.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: So I just went to the bar. I had this
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: really cute outfit on too. I was so cute that night.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: And I went to the bar and then it was
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: like these big group of like, it was like some
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Nigerian dudes, like some girls.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: They was like, come here. My cousin will love you.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: He's on his way.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: And then the guy, and then it was so crazy.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Like the dude I met that night, I still fuck
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: with him like to this day.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: So I was just like, yeah.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: That's all that was supposed to be in the first
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: damn place.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Fuck you, Phil. Yeah, fuck you, Phil.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Yo, and this is the gag. Okay, so I got
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: to kind of go back to, because I, anyway, so-
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: It was like, what was that? The drinking and smoking
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: video with Future. I was just like watching the video
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: and then he was in the video. I screamed so
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: loud when I saw that. And I was just like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: so who is this nigga?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the nigga who hang with Future.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: You know him and shit.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: If you hang with Future, I'm expecting some bullshit. Right.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, look at me now.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Period. Do you have any dumb bitch story you want
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to share?
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: No, I don't have any recent ones.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, not recent. No recent dumb bitch story.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I have anything new.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't get played in the last decade.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you how I felt played.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: So as y'all know, I had my fibroids removed recently.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: This made me feel like I need a man. Like
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I need a man in my life or someone in
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: my house. Y'all like I was in so much pain.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I couldn't bend over. So after I used the bathroom,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I had to pull my panties up with a hanger, y'all.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I had to take a hanger and pull my panties
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: up like that. And that was so humbling. I was like, Lord,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I need a person.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: But what about, like, lowering yourself to sit on the toilet?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Did that hurt too?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Miserable.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to be leg day. You definitely
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to be in the house by yourself.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: No, I wasn't.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to have a caretaker.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom was there for the first two days,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: but she.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Had to go back to work. I know, but anytime
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'd be sick, I'd be like, I'm going to go take.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Care of me.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: But I'd be telling them, even if you had a man,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: they don't know what to do. You still would need
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: your mom.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: But you can tell them.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can kind of like, go get this.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Come pull my drawers up, nigga.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, at least. At the very least.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's my dumb bitch story for the week.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Bitch don't have no more surgeries without a man.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: We need someone to help Tammy pull up her big
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: girl drawers. Her drawers.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Put a bandaid on my booty. Mia, tell everybody where
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: they can find you. Plug anything you have.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, y'all.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: You guys can find me on Instagram at MiaTheBoss. YouTube
• 50:25
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• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Big boss.
• 50:34
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• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be here.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Be sure, April 22nd, y'all. It's me, Tam Bam, official
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• 51:24
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• 51:26
  Speaker 1: or nobody told y'all today, but I love y'all. Thank
• 51:28
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• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Fuck y'all. I love y'all, too. I appreciate you. She
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: don't love y'all like the way I do.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Thank y'all for tuning in, man. We'll see you next time.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: And remember to speak now. Oh, shit. And never hold
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: your pizza, bitch.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Because it's summer and we un-bigging our backs.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Bye.