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USA Basketball - Court of Gold vs The Eternal Gold Medal · Pass The Rock: Real Talk

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  SPEAKER_00: We're good.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, Mr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Daly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, good afternoon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
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  SPEAKER_01: What's up, man?
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, real good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Man, I really appreciate our conversation last week where we touched on man, how Jesus recruits.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as a coach, how we need to test things to get us from one point to another.
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  unknown: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And towards the end of our conversation, you were like, hey, man, let's let's talk about court of gold, USA team against Serbia, France, and let's try to extrapolate some insights there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hence, I wrote some USA.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's do it, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about USA basketball and how we can gain some spiritual insights.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let me ask you, do you remember did you watch that game live?
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  SPEAKER_00: The championship game?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember where you were and everything like that?
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember our words for that one.
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  SPEAKER_01: For Serbia, I do because I was working and the game was on.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't work for Johnson Johnson anymore, so you can't do nothing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, hey J love you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm pulling over.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm taking an extended lunch break to catch this game.
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  SPEAKER_01: So so yeah, I was at a Mexican restaurant and Axon put on the game.
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  SPEAKER_01: I ate my tacos while I watched Serbia.
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  SPEAKER_01: But France, I can't remember where I was for that game.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was special, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I do remember I was in my basement and I turned everything off.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I think we had a text thread going with our guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I I like had no distractions and I had the game up and I had the same vibes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like when we played Spain back with Kobe, the redeemed team.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember and that was touch and go for a minute with Spain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um I had the same energy I felt like in this game.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, I we we barely won the last game.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're in the championship, it's at at Paris's house.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, you know, and so um man, I do I remember every moment of that game, especially the end, it was amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember being on edge because Curry wasn't playing all that good.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was playing, but it wasn't Curry-esque that we're used to, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So we hit that in Serbia, so waiting to see what happens in France, little Tatum Kerr drama going on, what's gonna happen, but anyway, but yeah, it was very possession, possession of possession game.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, bro, I never played D1 basketball, nor professional.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, can you and this segues into USA basketball?
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you tell me how much more difficult does it get tactically, strategically from high school, D1, and pro?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, can you share with that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Share me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so I think every level you you go up, the game's gonna get faster, stronger, um, and guys are quicker in general.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then I'd say mentally as well, uh, processing faster, making decisions faster.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh again, in my my journey from high school to college to JUCO was a jump.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I remember going, I played at junior college in Bellevue, and they're like, We're gonna start you a point guard.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: First game, eight turnovers.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh they're like, We're throwing you to the wolves, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh took me, it took me a while to adjust, and that was just JUCO.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then going from JUCO to, you know, at that time, Big 12, um, just everything like the uh the time you had to get your shot off, efficiency became more important.
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  SPEAKER_00: You didn't have as much time to get your shot off.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna get blocked or contested.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, passes you thought were open, uh, the the windows close up a lot quicker.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might think you have a lane, by the time you make your way down that lane, it closes up, or someone pins you off the glass.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then you know, guys verticals.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember playing with guys and and playing against somebody, and you think, okay, I cut him off, he's done, and then they might just elevate and dunk.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jeez.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, so that that's definitely different.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, what what I think from my perspective, watching the Olympics is like you have it's it's about KYP, know your personnel, you need the right guy shooting the right shots at the right time, and you only have one ball.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that to me, that is the hardest part about execution, is it's got to be the right guy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if if you make a series of poor decisions, that can cost you the game in one stretch.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jeez.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so that game was intense, and I'm with you, Steph.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he hadn't done much until the game before, and then going into the final stretch, um, it was close.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was that last quarter was close, and uh, I was nervous, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I thought US might take an L.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then watching the documentary, you could hear they were thinking the same thing, they're trying not to think about it, but they're like, this might be it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so then then, you know, of course, Steph uh took over the game, and from from the documentary, Kerr uh was talking to him, and Steph suggested a play with him and LeBron where he's the screener, and then he he pops after setting the screen, and he hit the first three, and then and then moved out the ball at the second three, and then the third three.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so it was just like to me, that puts him up there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That might have been one of the more most influential minutes in basketball history.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, and it's so funny that thanks for breaking down earlier the difficulty of the game that it gets faster, and obviously they're mentally, but also physically.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Olympics is, I think, some of the highest level basketball because you got America's best coach coaching the best players for each country, respectively.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's the best of the best, the cream of the crop.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so at that level, yeah, like any mistake is that we capitalize on.
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  SPEAKER_01: But when you talk about the speed of it, I'm like, man, I don't even understand that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I, you know, that just makes no sense to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm trying to think, what are some spiritual insights, spiritual integration thoughts you have about competition, scouting, and I forgot what technical term you use, the PYT, know your KYT, know your personality, KYT?
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  SPEAKER_00: KYP.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's a plug from the the Iceman classic, too.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we just had our Iceman classic, it was great.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: We had 50 plus hoopers, uh, 40 plus hoopers from the region, but Harold Wright's the Iceman, that's his nickname.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he would always, when he was coaching me in Juca, always say KYP.
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  SPEAKER_00: What that meant was if you're a point guard, let's say you give it to your big fella in transition at the three-point line, and then your big fella turns it over because he's not used to getting the ball in that area.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'd get yelled at like KYP, know your personnel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why are you passing him in that situation?
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  SPEAKER_00: That's your fault.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, um, so KYP is really knowing your personnel, and then I think I would integrate that with Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus understood his personnel, he understood the differences in personality with Peter.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, he told Peter, get behind me, Satan.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but he also knew when Peter denied him three times that he could reinstate him by asking him three times, you know, do you love me?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I think Jesus knew his personnel of his disciples so much so that he knew those were the guys to give the great commission to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so he understood the personnel.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, but going back to that game, I love hearing Steph talk about it because you know, greatest shooter we've probably ever seen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he says when he hit the first one, and he's like, calm down, he's like, I was talking to myself, you know, he's like, I'm telling myself to calm down, but he really was like, Everybody calm down, and then and then he hit the second one, which was nuts because you're talking about these pressure moments that you know you were just talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't shoot these types of shots, like he's shooting open gym type shots and pressure moments.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but my favorite quote, bro, I say it with a brother out here, an elder in our church.
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  SPEAKER_00: We say, Don't worry about me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, because when you hit the third one and Carmelo's on the side going nuts, stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry about me.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: You're doing his curry shimmy, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's uh, but you can't get to that point, that place, right, unless you got hours in the darkness alone.
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  SPEAKER_01: And to your so what you said earlier, the game gets faster, stronger.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've seen Curry before, man, he's no taller than me, and he's not that yoked as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's playing against these freak athletes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the only way you get to do that is you're doing a lot of work behind the scenes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you if you get a chance to go to the NBA game today, and you go watch Golden State, you can get a if you ask the right person, you can get a schedule of their pregame routine, what what time he goes on.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we went to watch Trailblazers, we want to watch Steph warm up.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like, You got 12 minutes, he's gonna be out there for 12 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so everyone's waiting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like when you when when Steph warms up, it's a crowd waiting for him.
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  SPEAKER_00: He came out, he had his routine.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was like it was like a layup, like clockwork.
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  SPEAKER_00: He has his coach, he knows his routine, he has his trick shots routinely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, bro, what you're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're talking about millions of reps that prepare him for that moment, bro.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so can I segue from there to do something spiritual?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is it foolish to think you can face temptation if you haven't done any spiritual practices, discipline of prayer, time with God, learn to talk with somebody about it?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what question I really want to ask, but like just to be raw, is it stupid to think you can face temptation without work, without strength?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like you can like basketball, but you have to put in the training to get to a point where you can play pickup and then organized, and then high school and college.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: And so, same thing, you can like Jesus, you can like the idea of Jesus, but do you want to live the life?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna have to do some training.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um, a lot of people like to loan wolf it or hey, I don't want to be a part of a church.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's a reason we have churches, there's a reason there's epistles in the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's like a team, you know, you're you're gonna have to be on a team, you're gonna have to get your training and then bring what what God has blessed you with to your team, your spiritual team, your church.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, I I think if we were gonna talk about an area, Lawrence, of like high school to college to pro, I think that when you you our first our first calling is be a disciple.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then let's talk to the men.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most men want to date.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a level up.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, when we first when we first start dating our ladies, it's like your weaknesses rise to the it's like a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then it's like, okay, you want to be engaged, you're gonna have to do some training because this is a whole nother Satan will will come at you in different ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, married, okay, you want to have kids, okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: You want to go after your career.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I do think there is a there's a preparation and a testing and an endurance in the same way you train at your sport that we get in the life of a disciple.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: There's levels to this, levels, and I think so many people, especially in modern churches, think you can just show up on Sunday, maybe have your little daily bread devotional, and have this nice private life, and think hey, that's Christianity, and that's part of it, but that's YMCA.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like you there's so much more you're missing out on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow, I love that.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for breaking it down through the idea of marriage and relationships.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: You said epistles.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to clarify for those that don't really read the Bible that much or as educated, what are the epistles?
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: Can you just break that down real quick?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um, so you've got your you've got your Bible, you've got Genesis in the Old Testament, the Old Testament's about 66% of the Bible, and then in the New Testament, you've got the four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have the book of Acts, which records the actions of the disciples um carrying out the Great Commission.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you got these epistles, which is basically letters to churches.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, team could be synonymous with church, it's like a high level of a team, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, um, so yeah, you've got Romans, Corinthians, first second Corinthians, you've got Galatians, Ephesians, uh, Philippians, Colossians, Thessalonians, and um, and Hebrews.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you've got different epistles, which are letters written to churches on how to live faithfully in a group setting as a community.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I before I studied the Bible, I couldn't, I didn't know any of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Galatians, what Hebrews, who?
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So going back to levels of this, all right.
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  SPEAKER_01: What are some other things that people will miss out on by not putting in the Bible into daily practice?
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  SPEAKER_01: So, for example, like taking it back to back to Curry, and if Curry didn't put those hours in, obviously, he would never have been able to do high school AAU D1 and two years now.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so spiritually, what can we miss out on by not putting in that daily work?
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  SPEAKER_00: Man, well, you know, uh, one theme is I like to bounce questions back to you.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll say one thing and then I'm gonna bounce that question to you as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, the first thing I came to mind, L, and I can speak from experience, is you know, I had unhealthy, unspiritual patterns that had to be demolished, that had to be destroyed.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I do I think about the scripture um talks about Jesus came to destroy uh the works of Satan.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like in the in the area of relationships, I had to demolish and unlearn unhealthy patterns.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like, and I think I was being young, you're kind of overconfident or cocky where oh, I can just learn this overnight.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, uh, I can learn to be pure overnight, I can I can learn how to date as a Christian overnight, I can um I can do all those things without accountability or without you know going back to square one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so one of the biggest principles I think our campus taught me was if if I'm gonna go after this thing in a spiritual way, then whatever I however I act towards the sisters to encourage her in her faith, yeah, as a sister, a daughter of God.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Back in the day, if it was a phone call, a date, you know, doing a favor, it was for myself to get what I wanted.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: So that was like, okay, this is a big principle.
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  SPEAKER_00: I need to get down to the root of it and demolish that, start from scratch, and understand there's a lot I don't know.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm gonna have to learn.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that the first one I would say would be like demolishing old habits.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a good one.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I just want to comment on that too.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Vince, shout out to Vince.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: I remember you say, Yeah, guys in the world, non-Christian guys, do things for women.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I open the door for you, give you some flowers, because really I want what I want, but I'm not gonna make that known, right?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: But Christian guys, hey, I do things for you because I want you to see God.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so you're right, that's like a whole nother level where I'm thinking, how can I help someone else know God?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, that's that's D1.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're at another level spiritually.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, what I want to add to that is PTR, one of one of PTR's like statements, when sold.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, man, what is greater?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Chris Schneider said that uh said this to me.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, Lawrence, what can you take to heaven?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, ah man, easy question, bro.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, actually, you can take your friends.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you know, I think on Matthew 9, the paralytic, when those guys broke some dude's roof, lower the roof there, and it says that Jesus saw their faith, he's like, Hey, I see your friends, and so you know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: And he forgave the paralytic, then obviously he healed them.
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  SPEAKER_01: But man, how incredible would it be if you were able to help someone find and know God and get them to heaven?
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think, man, going for gold is obviously you get to heaven, but you being able to help somebody else, totally, but you can't get there unless you're living it daily, you got someone else in your life, you're overcoming these strongholds like you're talking about.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: Man, that takes some next that that's high level Christianity.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean you have to be the smartest, then you just gotta be humble, you just gotta be humble, right?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love that because it makes me think about you know, the the most amazing feats we see in sport.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, dude, we love sports, we love watching stuff happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I remember I didn't even like Jordan, I respected Jordan, but I was a Magic Johnson fan.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I remember where I was though when he hit the shot against Utah and he held it for an extra second.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was like, man, that's that's that's like a magnificent closing to his career.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh I'm coaching these kids.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: We got about a hundred kids at this camp, this youth camp.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I talk about that shot, and these kids are second grade to eighth grade, and they have none of them have seen that shot.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: What?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, this is Jordan, you know.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: They don't even know what I'm talking about.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: What that's so as as great as these these sport feats are, yeah, they're temporary.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're talking 20 years, it's been 20, yeah, about 30 years since he hit that shot, and that was an amazing shot.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: But in 30 years, a lot of this will be forgotten.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, it makes me think of that verse in Isaiah where it says, uh, man's glory is like the grass of the field, but only the word of the Lord will stand forever.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: I bet all those little kids know they'll see a cross, they have an idea.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, Jesus the cross, they got an idea of that.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, yeah, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so I guess I'll but it's kind of like the court of gold is an amazing documentary about an amazing time, but like the real court of gold is heaven, bro.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was just about to ask that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, what is it?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: What is really going for gold?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: What is the true prize?
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, like, yeah, basketball is just a game, it's it's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every sport's amazing, but there's something much higher than that.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's another level to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we're talking about the Bible and some of the overview of the Bible.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think one of the books that captures that heart is Ecclesiastes.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, like how would you how would you explain, Lawrence, if you're walking up to somebody and they're like, What's Ecclesiastes?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: If you did like a 30-second little summary, how would you explain Ecclesiastes?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Good question.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've never been asked that before.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Ecclesiastes really explores the human soul and his and all of its desires, right?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and so you know, Solomon had all this so wise, all this money, and there's still there's a little bit of tone of like, yeah, this stuff's all kind of meaningless.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, it's about something greater, and um, and I I think that you get you like our athletes go through this, okay.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: What is what do what is sports about?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: And man, D1, I love getting gear, bro.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Let me tell you, gear, I love being at Missouri, I love the gear, I love the logo.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when some of my homies made it to the NBA, I love getting NBA gear.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you want the shoes, no one has all that stuff.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: My my shoe game is rough now, but but back in the day, right?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: And and so you you get the gear, right?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Or you get um notoriety, or you know, you get uh you get some per diem, some money.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Now you get NIL, you get rings or lifelong memories, like all that stuff to me, it's it's all in the same place of ecclesiastes.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's like there's that's it.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's there's gotta be more to it.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: There's gotta be more.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think, yeah, if you can connect your faith and not only be faithful in your life, yeah, but if if sport can be a tool to help bring some others with you, like win some souls, and it's not in a way of like I gotta save them, I gotta be the guy.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, you might just help, you might just put a Bible in their hand.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: You might point, you might hold him accountable, whatever.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: But if if you can do something to help towards someone's someone finding their salvation with Jesus, that's worth more than anything.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: The greatest thing.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're living for a cause, a true purpose.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: I just watched 42 the for the first time about Jackie Robertson.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I was blown away.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: But because a man chose to suffer and do what's right and try to you know live the best life possible, that's more inspiring than hey, him winning World Series or whatever.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the man he was.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I walk away with.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: So you're right.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: For all those athletes out there, high school, college, pro, man, if you can have your talent, your incredible God-given talent, and then do it with God together, man, that's where you will maximize who you were created to be.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: So you can have the talent, but you're missing out on, like, oh man, there's so much more you could be doing and experiencing for yourself, but for others as well.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it makes me want to think, even as a coach, like keep the real court of gold in mind.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when I go coach or when I'm trying to motivate uh the relationship aspect for our players, keep keep the real court of gold in mind.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's bigger than a gold medal, it's bigger than a dub.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, keep that in mind.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: I want to read this scripture, and I don't know where we're at with time.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we try to keep about 20 minutes for those of tuning in.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: But in 1 Corinthians 9 24, it says, Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize?
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: Run in such a way as to get the prize.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously talking about spiritually.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, we all of us, no matter what level you're at, man, pursue God like you're trying to win a prize.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not an easy, ah, I'm gonna take time off.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, take your break.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: But man, there is a dedication, devotion that it takes to get to heaven.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: So there's yeah, it is no, it's no cakewalk.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: Amen, bro.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: That makes me think about maybe um next week we can talk about um active recovery for the disciple.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh so when you finish a season, you let a lot of times you let your hair down, right?
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or whoever, whatever.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: You let your you you chill out, you kick back, like you take time off.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, how do we how do we do that in our seasons of discipleship?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: What does active recovery look like?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta go go hard, you know, like do your best you can, but then you need time, like, hey, how do you balance that?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but man, this was inspiring talk, L.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it, man.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I love the USA gear.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: I I should have been geared out next time.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'll get some USA gear.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's all good, man.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I don't have the Iceman classic gear, so uh hey, you know, but hey, you know what?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Swag in different ways.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know where you can get it though.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, tell us the rock, past the rock dot shop for fresh Iceman classic gear.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hey, show it real quick, man.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Show the people what's it look like?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: So this is Harold.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you got Harold.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: I actually got him a uh I got him a Carolina blue Kangle as well, because that's his style, that's what he rocks.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: So he got the Kangle, he got uh he's got a cross necklace on in here, and then uh this is our second year we ran it.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: So let's go.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, super proud of you doing that, and it was free, it was for the community.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, man, shout out to you.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Washington State let you use their gym too.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it sounds like it was a huge thing for the community.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: So great job!
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yeah.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're already looking at dates for next year, and uh hopefully we can get L out here for next year's.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm down.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go, it'll be a great time.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll bring the I'll bring the fam.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: I love you, man.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Love you too, bro.