Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / The Parenting Moments You Don’t Realise You’ll Miss Most
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Every Friday on The Happy Family's podcast, It's all Do
- 0:08Speaker 1: Better Tomorrow. Years and years and years ago, when our
- 0:10Speaker 1: children were young, we bought a book called I'll do
- 0:12Speaker 1: Better Tomorrow, I Promise. It's a story about a mum
- 0:15Speaker 1: who is cataloging all of the challenges that her children,
- 0:18Speaker 1: or a child, her little boy, brought into her life
- 0:20Speaker 1: one by one. He shaved the dog, He turned the
- 0:24Speaker 1: garden inside out. He overfilled the bath and it flooded
- 0:27Speaker 1: the bathroom, and then dripped down through the upstairs, into
- 0:29Speaker 1: the downstairs, into the kitchen, cut his sister's hair, and
- 0:32Speaker 1: the list goes on and on and on and as
- 0:34Speaker 1: this mum is cataloging all the challenges that she faced
- 0:37Speaker 1: dealing with her son, that day, she made a commitment
- 0:41Speaker 1: and said, I'll do better tomorrow. I promise. I need
- 0:43Speaker 1: to be better because even though he's driving me crazy,
- 0:46Speaker 1: I need to not let him drive me crazy. We
- 0:48Speaker 1: fell in love with the book. We used to read
- 0:49Speaker 1: it to our kids all the time. It made us
- 0:51Speaker 1: cry when we would read it to them, and as
- 0:52Speaker 1: a result, Every Friday on The Happy Family's podcast, Kylie
- 0:56Speaker 1: and I share what's worked and what hasn't and how
- 0:59Speaker 1: We're committing to be better tomorrow so that we can
- 1:01Speaker 1: learn from all the parenting experiences that we have and
- 1:04Speaker 1: make our family happier. The idea is to give you
- 1:07Speaker 1: some inspose so that you can be better tomorrow as well.
- 1:09Speaker 1: And right after the break, both Kylie and I have
- 1:12Speaker 1: had some new practices, some new insights, some new epiphanies
- 1:16Speaker 1: about parenting this week. We can't wait to share them
- 1:18Speaker 1: with you. That's next. Hello, Welcome to the Happy Families
- 1:23Speaker 1: Podcast Friday edition. The Happy Families Podcast is Australia's most
- 1:27Speaker 1: downloaded parenting podcast, where you get fabulous parenting solutions, real
- 1:31Speaker 1: parenting solutions every single day. I'm justin you're Kylie. We've
- 1:36Speaker 1: got six kids, I've written eleven books. My boys book
- 1:38Speaker 1: comes out in just over two weeks, Oh my goodness.
- 1:40Speaker 1: And I've also got some other news for you. I
- 1:42Speaker 1: don't know if you're aware of this, and I know
- 1:43Speaker 1: that you're aware of it, but I'm not sure if
- 1:44Speaker 1: you've done the maths on this. Our second daughter gets
- 1:47Speaker 1: married in four weeks. Today, we're down to four weeks.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Can you believe it?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Well, she's been counting down. I just hadn't worked out
- 1:54Speaker 2: the weeks, Yes, week, four weeks.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's so exciting. She'll be moving out
- 1:59Speaker 1: of that bedroom.
- 2:03Speaker 2: The things I'm looking forward to, having a bit more
- 2:06Speaker 2: space in the storage covered that I am doing.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I shouldn't laugh. We're going to miss us so much.
- 2:11Speaker 1: She's going to be living like two hours away, and
- 2:13Speaker 1: we're probably to see it once a week onto fortnite.
- 2:16Speaker 2: It's oh, you're hilarious. It won't be once a week.
- 2:18Speaker 2: I can promise you that.
- 2:19Speaker 1: You don't think so. No, my heart's breaking even more
- 2:22Speaker 1: now that you have said that that four weeks. We
- 2:24Speaker 1: need to soak it up. Okay, Kylie, you're up first today.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Well, I have to stop you before we even go anywhere.
- 2:31Speaker 2: You missed the whole point of our favorite book.
- 2:33Speaker 1: What was the whole point of our favorite book?
- 2:35Speaker 2: You have a little saying. You talk about the fact
- 2:37Speaker 2: that parenting is about us as parents, not our children.
- 2:41Speaker 1: We call it Childreldren.
- 2:42Speaker 2: And the thing that I love about this book is
- 2:45Speaker 2: she's actually cataloging all of these things that have gone
- 2:49Speaker 2: on in her day as she says a prayer at
- 2:51Speaker 2: her child's bedside. He's pretending to be asleep because he
- 2:54Speaker 2: realizes he's done some really naughty things throughout the day,
- 2:57Speaker 2: and he's ready to say sorry to her, and it's
- 3:00Speaker 2: in that moment that she recognizes that it's not his problem,
- 3:04Speaker 2: it's hers. And that's what I love about the story.
- 3:07Speaker 2: It's this idea that our kids give us all of
- 3:10Speaker 2: the stimulus to make us go crazy, or they helped
- 3:13Speaker 2: change us to be better people as we learn more patience.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Regulate, and be forbearing. And yeah, that's what I love
- 3:20Speaker 1: about the book. Well, we love that book. Anyway, You're
- 3:23Speaker 1: oddly better tomorrow if we may press on.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Well, it's actually another little epiphany, just like that. It's
- 3:29Speaker 2: not necessarily an experience. But during the week our stove died. Yes,
- 3:36Speaker 2: we've known that it's been on the brink for a
- 3:38Speaker 2: little while. We had breakfast, everything went perfectly, but when
- 3:42Speaker 2: I came, I was actually it was meal prepping day
- 3:45Speaker 2: and I had cut all of the vegetables to make
- 3:47Speaker 2: three different meals, and.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Thist went from on the brink to on the blink.
- 3:51Speaker 1: It died, and it.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Died, and so I was, what are we going to do?
- 3:55Speaker 2: So we had takeaway that night and then the next day.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Sorry, I've got to just jump in here. It's a
- 4:00Speaker 1: real pain when this happens because number one, cost of
- 4:03Speaker 1: living crisis. Everything's costing more than ever before. But also
- 4:06Speaker 1: in the middle of interest rates and rent and whatever
- 4:09Speaker 1: else that everyone's struggling with. Then you've got to start
- 4:12Speaker 1: buying more food from outside because you don't have anything
- 4:16Speaker 1: to cook on at home. It's expensive. And then you've
- 4:18Speaker 1: got to wait to find a stove. You got to
- 4:20Speaker 1: find the right size. Youve got to get electrician who
- 4:21Speaker 1: can come in and short notice and fix it all up.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Like the unexpected expense and the inconvenience factor is off
- 4:28Speaker 1: the charts.
- 4:28Speaker 2: We have a barbecue, we have a stove, and there
- 4:30Speaker 2: are things that I could cook, but I still needed
- 4:32Speaker 2: the stove to help me with some of.
- 4:33Speaker 1: It, yeah, most of it. Yeah.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And so I ended up at our eldest daughter's house
- 4:39Speaker 2: the next day and I was babysitting our grand baby,
- 4:42Speaker 2: and I said to our daughter, I'll just come over.
- 4:46Speaker 2: I'll bring my food and I'll do a couple of
- 4:47Speaker 2: meals so that we've got something until the electrician can
- 4:51Speaker 2: come and fix our stove. But you know what it's
- 4:55Speaker 2: like when you're in somebody else's kitchen, and nothing's where
- 4:58Speaker 2: you think it should be because they've got to different system,
- 5:01Speaker 2: and no matter how I did things, it just didn't
- 5:05Speaker 2: feel right, like it just nothing fell into place the
- 5:08Speaker 2: way it would if I was just at home, kind
- 5:10Speaker 2: of almost going on autopilot because I know everything is
- 5:14Speaker 2: And it just got me thinking about how having the
- 5:17Speaker 2: right tools and our toolkit make all the difference. When
- 5:20Speaker 2: we're in our own space and we know the parameters
- 5:23Speaker 2: that we're working with, or we've got the literally the
- 5:27Speaker 2: right instruments in the right place to help us, things
- 5:31Speaker 2: go so much more smoothly. It doesn't mean that dinner
- 5:34Speaker 2: cooks itself, because it doesn't. I've still got to do
- 5:36Speaker 2: the work, but there's so much more ease in that
- 5:40Speaker 2: as I do it. And if I can relate that
- 5:43Speaker 2: to parenting, sometimes we experience these challenges that we're just
- 5:47Speaker 2: in deep water. We have no idea how to get
- 5:50Speaker 2: out of them. But if we have done the work
- 5:54Speaker 2: and we've prepared ourselves as just being good human beings
- 5:58Speaker 2: and being a ten and aware of our children and
- 6:03Speaker 2: their needs, we will have the right tools in our
- 6:06Speaker 2: toolkit to help us. It doesn't mean those problems disappear,
- 6:09Speaker 2: they're always going to be there, but we have a
- 6:12Speaker 2: better capacity to navigate those challenging waters because the tools
- 6:17Speaker 2: are already there.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, nice insight. Hey, after the break, I've been reflecting.
- 6:24Speaker 1: We lost a friend some years ago at the age
- 6:27Speaker 1: of fifty. He unexpectedly passed away just while he was
- 6:30Speaker 1: having a meal with his family. He stood up, family
- 6:33Speaker 1: and friends, stood up, went to the bathroom and didn't
- 6:35Speaker 1: quite make it and died unexpectedly. I've been reflecting on
- 6:38Speaker 1: that this week, and I came across some research about
- 6:41Speaker 1: a it's called the Last Time meditation, And as I've
- 6:46Speaker 1: reflected on that this week, that informs my old do
- 6:48Speaker 1: better tomorrow. I'll tell you more about that right after
- 6:51Speaker 1: this we're back. It's Happy for podcast. If you enjoy
- 7:01Speaker 1: the pod, please share it with the friend. Hopefully it'll
- 7:03Speaker 1: help their family be happier, like it helps your family
- 7:06Speaker 1: be happier, Kylie. Some years ago we lost friend Rob.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He unexpectedly passed away, had a heart attack at the
- 7:11Speaker 1: age of fifty, literally still went to the bathroom, didn't
- 7:14Speaker 1: quite make it to the bathroom, just fell over and
- 7:17Speaker 1: in the hallway he lost his life. His heart gave out,
- 7:21Speaker 1: And I was thinking about that. I've thought about it
- 7:23Speaker 1: a lot over the years, because it was some years
- 7:24Speaker 1: ago now, just he was sitting at that meal, and
- 7:27Speaker 1: he never realized that was the last smile that he'd
- 7:30Speaker 1: give to his wife, as he said, to be back
- 7:31Speaker 1: in a sec or the last time he hugged his wife,
- 7:34Speaker 1: or the last time he spoke to the kids, those
- 7:38Speaker 1: last times. We never quite know when it's going to be.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I'm getting a bit weepeach thinking about it. There's a
- 7:44Speaker 1: philosophy professor by the name of Bill Irvine, William b Irvine,
- 7:48Speaker 1: and he said this, and it's a direct quote. He said,
- 7:50Speaker 1: when you're doing something, you should reflect on the possibility
- 7:53Speaker 1: that this might be the last time you do it.
- 7:56Speaker 1: And I know that's in some ways it's a really
- 7:58Speaker 1: morbid and terrifying thought. Some people might think, I don't
- 8:01Speaker 1: want to imagine this is the last time I'm doing it.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Why would I do that? But there's something quite magic
- 8:06Speaker 1: that happens when you do, Because when you give your
- 8:10Speaker 1: daughter a hug in the kitchen, or when you smile
- 8:13Speaker 1: and give one of your other kids a high five
- 8:16Speaker 1: as they walk past you, if you pause and think
- 8:20Speaker 1: this could be the last time that I ever get
- 8:21Speaker 1: to do this, you give it more, you take more
- 8:25Speaker 1: from it. It becomes more meaningful, it becomes really special.
- 8:29Speaker 1: And the last time meditation is what Bill Irvine calls it,
- 8:35Speaker 1: just thinking. There is a last time that we've done
- 8:39Speaker 1: a whole lot of things with our kids. There is
- 8:42Speaker 1: a last time that you take your sleeping child out
- 8:44Speaker 1: of the car and carry them to bed. And I
- 8:47Speaker 1: know this because a couple of weeks ago, we got
- 8:49Speaker 1: home really really late. I can't believe I'm confessing with
- 8:53Speaker 1: this on the podcast, but I'm really really late. We
- 8:56Speaker 1: were exhausted, and I forgot that Emily of your old
- 9:00Speaker 1: had fallen asleep in the back of the car as
- 9:02Speaker 1: we drove home. And I got out of the car
- 9:04Speaker 1: and went to bed, and you got out of the
- 9:05Speaker 1: car and went to bed. And she woke up, apparently
- 9:09Speaker 1: at about one o'clock in the morning, cold and uncomfortable
- 9:12Speaker 1: in the car, and she just put us off to bed.
- 9:16Speaker 2: But the front door was locked, so she had to
- 9:18Speaker 2: look around. The fight was one of the kids.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Hadn't locked front of the doors. We shouldn't have let
- 9:22Speaker 1: her loudly, and she managed to get herself into their house.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. But I was thinking about that and
- 9:29Speaker 1: it occurred to me, I'm probably never going to carry
- 9:32Speaker 1: one of my children to bed ever again if they
- 9:34Speaker 1: fall asleep in the car, including even if I'm aware
- 9:37Speaker 1: of it, because they're too big and too heavy. And
- 9:40Speaker 1: there's there's I lifted our granddaughter Indy up onto my
- 9:43Speaker 1: shoulders the other day so that I could carry her somewhere,
- 9:46Speaker 1: and I thought, it's great to do this with my granddaughter.
- 9:49Speaker 1: This is really special. But I haven't done this with
- 9:52Speaker 1: any of our kids for a long time. The last
- 9:53Speaker 1: time that I ever carry one of my children on
- 9:56Speaker 1: my shoulders or on a piggyback has probably now occurred.
- 10:00Speaker 1: There's a last time that you have to say, kids,
- 10:04Speaker 1: stop fighting over who pushes the button across the road.
- 10:08Speaker 2: I was about to say as you were talking, and
- 10:10Speaker 2: you were acknowledging, you know, thinking about this is the
- 10:13Speaker 2: last time I might hug my child or give them
- 10:15Speaker 2: a high five, or These are all really beautiful things, right,
- 10:18Speaker 2: They don't require much from us because they're good moments anyway.
- 10:23Speaker 2: But there are so many moments in parenting where you're like,
- 10:26Speaker 2: I can't wait till this is over. I can't wait
- 10:28Speaker 2: till I get through this space or this timeframe like
- 10:32Speaker 2: toilet training or teething or whatever it is. But there
- 10:36Speaker 2: will come a time where you'll look back and recognize
- 10:40Speaker 2: just the immense, profoundness of those moments.
- 10:43Speaker 1: Yeah, the immensity.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned at the beginning of the podcast. In
- 10:47Speaker 2: four weeks, we'll say goodbye to our second daughter.
- 10:50Speaker 1: That's where I was about to go.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and they thought that she's not going to wake
- 10:54Speaker 2: up in her bed in our house ever again. Yeah.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Yeah, we do this. It annoys me sometimes I don't
- 11:01Speaker 1: have the energy for it at night. But when we're
- 11:02Speaker 1: doing all in and we're all in the kitchen cleaning
- 11:04Speaker 1: up the dishes, they play this game we've talked about
- 11:06Speaker 1: on the podcast before. They've called it word association. Basically,
- 11:10Speaker 1: you come up with a theme, a word, and everyone
- 11:14Speaker 1: takes it in turns going around the group. You've got
- 11:17Speaker 1: to start singing a song that uses that word, and
- 11:19Speaker 1: then the next person starts singing a different song and
- 11:21Speaker 1: that's their turn, and then you keep going until everybody
- 11:24Speaker 1: is out, until people can't come up with it anymore.
- 11:26Speaker 1: And there are some lights where I'm like, I don't
- 11:27Speaker 1: have the energy for this. I don't want to do this,
- 11:30Speaker 1: but she's not home as often anymore, and we don't
- 11:34Speaker 1: play word association that much anymore, and it's not the
- 11:38Speaker 1: same when she's not here either. She's the most enthusiastic
- 11:41Speaker 1: proponent of it. And I don't know if it's the
- 11:44Speaker 1: last time, but we're certainly down to the last handful
- 11:47Speaker 1: of times that we're probably going to have word association
- 11:51Speaker 1: dishwashing activities in the kitchen. That Last Time meditation, it
- 11:56Speaker 1: brings a richness to our experiences, and at the risk
- 12:03Speaker 1: of getting weepy, you just don't know what tomorrow brings,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and if you want to really flourish have a profound
- 12:11Speaker 1: and rich life, I think that that last time meditation
- 12:14Speaker 1: that Bill Irvine developed and annunciated is a way to
- 12:21Speaker 1: help you to do better tomorrow. So that's it. That's
- 12:25Speaker 1: our oddly better tomorrow today. Thanks so much for listening
- 12:27Speaker 1: to the Happy Families podcast. Have a great weekend, Have
- 12:30Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. I was going to say, because it
- 12:33Speaker 1: might be the last one you have, but that's a
- 12:34Speaker 1: really more good way to finish the podcast. I say,
- 12:37Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, we love that you listen, and we
- 12:40Speaker 1: hope you get something out of it. The Happy Family's
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