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Falcons vs Buccaneers DFS Showdown | Week 15 TNF | NFL Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the left up. What's up? Everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: whop here with me as always gonna break down on
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  Speaker 1: all things falcons at the bucks. We got a ton
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  Speaker 1: to talk about with injuries, guys that are out, guys
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  Speaker 1: coming back from IR, et cetera. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on with this slate. But there's a burning question
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  Speaker 1: in the room, and I gotta start with my guy
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  Speaker 1: title here.
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  Speaker 2: I think he got the odds right though. Oh watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it.
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  Speaker 1: Never watched it definitely played at least two to three
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  Speaker 1: sessions since then. Are we good? We got it correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: This morning, I woke up at three forty five, had
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  Speaker 4: to catch the people that were staying up all night,
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  Speaker 4: got over there and I played I think once before.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely did not watch yet.
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  Speaker 2: Did you get them though? You get there?
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  Speaker 5: I got him? My god, him, my god them.
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  Speaker 1: No, he's always always love to hear that. Man, that's awesome. Hoops,
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  Speaker 1: sir up, bring you in. Man. What's going on? Another
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  Speaker 1: another big week in the NFL. We got Week fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: It is the second last week of ship it Games.
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  Speaker 1: You can still check out all the details at shipp
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  Speaker 1: agames dot com and we will announce two winners at
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  Speaker 1: the end of this show for the ship of Games.
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  Speaker 1: But whop, what's going on? And man, how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'll do them well, you know, kicking off? What what
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  Speaker 3: is this week? Fifteen? Crazy? It's going It's moving quick.
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  Speaker 3: This game's pretty interesting from the standpoint where the Bucks
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  Speaker 3: you know, might be healthy, not healthy, but have all
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  Speaker 3: their guys from it seems like the first time this year,
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  Speaker 3: so that's pretty interesting. We were kind of talking about
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  Speaker 3: the Bejon Robinson ownership a little bit. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: definitely an interesting talking point. But you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: a solid showdown game to to to kick off the
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  Speaker 3: week and be excited to dive into it with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be good.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go here there's a guy Gary getting ready.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good luck to everybody that's playing in the Fantasy
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  Speaker 1: Football World Championship this week with DraftKings down in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to my guy g Rising before the show,
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  Speaker 1: his buddy Nolesman. He's like, yeah, he's got seven seats.
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  Speaker 1: He told me, get down there. I'm gonna be beat
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  Speaker 1: your ass up. He's like, all right, I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: So he's gonna go down to Nola with Nolesman.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Nola with Nolesman. That's that's got to be.
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  Speaker 3: A lock with winning combo right there.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely.
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  Speaker 1: And we were talking before the show, who just spitting
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  Speaker 1: a little shit before we go live with the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I actually brought this one up. That's funny.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we were talking about how bad these
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks are, Like you got to go back and pick
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  Speaker 1: up Philip Rivers and bring him back into the NFL
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  Speaker 1: because there's literally only twenty people on the entire planet
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  Speaker 1: Earth that can play quarterback. And yes, I know there's
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  Speaker 1: more teams than twenty, but some of them are very bad.
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  Speaker 1: But love maybe is good.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: These guys just take so long to get good. But
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  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts, Hoop. I know you always have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about with these quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough and me we talk about it quite
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  Speaker 3: a bit. And you know, I've labeled some of these
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  Speaker 3: mid tier guys. You know that people perceive as mid
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  Speaker 3: tier guys as absolutely shitty quarterbacks like Kyler Murray. You
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  Speaker 3: know again, I don't. I'll take my ls, but I
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  Speaker 3: can also take my w's too, and that's this is
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  Speaker 3: a W that I I can can definitely take because
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  Speaker 3: I've been telling saying this guy was shitty for a
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  Speaker 3: long time, bottom five in the NFL, been hammer at
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  Speaker 3: home boom. Now he doesn't have a job. I'm sure someone,
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  Speaker 3: a dumb team will pick him up next season, but
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  Speaker 3: like he's clearly done with the Cardinals. Talk about the
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  Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. So if you know, I'll put up some
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  Speaker 3: some nice numbers, some big numbers, but he's never winning
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  Speaker 3: games in the important games in the NFL into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: making a run. It is crazy. I mean, it just
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  Speaker 3: goes to show you how talented the top end quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: truly are. Because you look at it, A team loses
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  Speaker 3: a guy that came out of I mean Daniel Jones
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  Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere and people wrote him off.
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  Speaker 3: You had a really successful season. There's nobody else to
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  Speaker 3: take his position. I got a guy going in older
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  Speaker 3: than me, forty four years old. Forty four. They asked him, like,
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  Speaker 3: what is this weight? He's like, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: have no idea like that. How is that the best option?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely insane. They're fourteen point underdogs obviously because of that.
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  Speaker 3: But it is one of the crazier things in sports
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  Speaker 3: where NFL quarterbacks got to be the hardest position to
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  Speaker 3: be successful at in maybe all of sports, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They gets so limited where you can look at. NFL
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  Speaker 3: is clearly the top level of football in the world.
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  Speaker 3: We watch this shit week in week out, follow it
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  Speaker 3: very closely. If I had to look at the list
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  Speaker 3: of quarterbacks in the NFL, I think i'd put it at,
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  Speaker 3: without going name by name, fifteen. There's probably fifteen quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: I think I would say, are good NFL quarterbacks? Absolutely wild?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, title the other thing on the flip side, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you and then you can give
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  Speaker 1: your your thoughts here too.
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  Speaker 2: But the other side of it, you got.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is gonna go full Andrew luck on us.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it looks like he's he's out. Man, he's
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  Speaker 1: taking enough hits with that O line. Are resident Bills fan?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Wombat in the discord said this
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  Speaker 1: was the moment he gave up. It's like him on
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  Speaker 1: the snowy field, just laying face down in the dust.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, the line, there's no O line. The
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  Speaker 1: guys very solid to bring that team along. I know
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  Speaker 1: he's got t I know he's got Chase, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Man, he just gets funny game after game,
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  Speaker 1: and he looks done in that press, looks done for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, you also mentioned like life, like these
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  Speaker 4: guys are also humans. You never know what's going on
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  Speaker 4: outside of just the game of football for him. And
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  Speaker 4: when the game of football is tough too, yeah, things
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  Speaker 4: can thing can go wrong. But yeah, you can be
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  Speaker 4: the best quarterback ever if you don't have a good
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  Speaker 4: O line. I mean it's really tough back there. Grown
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  Speaker 4: men two hundred and fifty pounders just chase you full speed.
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  Speaker 4: I mean persons. Also, I don't know if this is
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  Speaker 4: true a stat that I saw he hasn't got one
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  Speaker 4: holding penalty all year. Someone tell me if that's true
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  Speaker 4: or not, because if so, I mean I just watched
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  Speaker 4: like three plays the last game, just focused in on him.
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  Speaker 4: He's a freaking nature like he's getting almost every play.
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  Speaker 4: So if that's true, that is wild. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: hard to play quarterback, no doubt. Unfortunately, I'm cheering for
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  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers, man, I do not think. I think I'll
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  Speaker 4: be firing out plenty of defenses to go against Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 5: Personally.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we're firing up JT.
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  Speaker 1: Someone said they have JT thirty five carries.
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  Speaker 5: Coming around stack the box. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think that having JT and bestball right
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  Speaker 4: now shout out to all the best ball week one
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  Speaker 4: right now. In the playoffs, Yeah, you can't feel good
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  Speaker 4: about chalk JT right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. He's got to be on a majority of
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  Speaker 3: the advancing team or they like the top end teams.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you could, you know, multiple teams get through,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean he has to be like the highest
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  Speaker 3: down guy. I'd assume going into round two. JSN Pooka
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  Speaker 3: like like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Hoops speaking a great court, we got Kirk Cousins
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  Speaker 1: here tonight and Baker Mayfield, who maybe does Baker make
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  Speaker 1: your fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Though, I mean, I know Kirk Cousins does not.
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  Speaker 3: But can you watch them and just make plays like
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  Speaker 3: I I mean, something can be said for a guy
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  Speaker 3: that can just make plays improvise. Kind of reminds me
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  Speaker 3: of like.
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  Speaker 2: A Johnny Manziel without the drug an.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say, like a Matthew Stafford, but like
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  Speaker 3: a little quicker where you can do like.
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  Speaker 4: These days loss of the Saints. He's actually Stafford lost
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  Speaker 4: to the Panthers.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I'm bitter about about Mayfield from
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  Speaker 5: last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about him too, But yeah, Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: you're the best for these Thursday games. Give it, give
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  Speaker 1: us your grand scheme overview, man, you know what's going
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  Speaker 1: on here. Let me break it down for all of
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  Speaker 1: us and then we'll get into the captains from there
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  Speaker 1: and roll it out well.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you know, that's definitely the toughest part
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  Speaker 3: about this light is kind of identifying the captains maybe
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  Speaker 3: that you want to play. You look at the Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: side and there's probably not many that that you do
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  Speaker 3: want to play. I mean, Kirk Cousins led offense. Kirk
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  Speaker 3: Cousin led offenses at this point in his career are
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  Speaker 3: not ones that I want to invest in a big way.
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  Speaker 3: So on the Atlanta side, there's probably only a couple.
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  Speaker 3: I mean. The one thing that definitely stands out though,
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  Speaker 3: it's like you know, with with Kirk Cousins, that quarterback
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  Speaker 3: Bijeon has a very much lower floor than he's had
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  Speaker 3: pretty much all season, and he's going to be very popular,
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  Speaker 3: and that looks like the case, I mean, probably between
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  Speaker 3: twenty five to thirty percent. I think that's definitely a
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  Speaker 3: conversation to have on its own, like what do you
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  Speaker 3: do there? You've not if you're playing one hundred and fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably not fading it, but you take an underweight
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  Speaker 3: stance and try to get some of these other guys.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm leaning towards. You know, Kyle
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  Speaker 3: Pitt's probably the only other one I'm looking at on
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  Speaker 3: the Atlanta side. And then Tampa Bay with Mike Evans back,
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  Speaker 3: they have a lot of offensive options. So I think
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  Speaker 3: captain is definitely, you know, the most important thing today.
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  Speaker 3: You have Bijon at the high owner shape and you
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  Speaker 3: have Tampa Bay with all their pieces like how do
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  Speaker 3: you play it? So that's I think definitely the most
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  Speaker 3: important part of this slate is figuring out what you're
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  Speaker 3: going to do at captain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a good one from that perspective though,
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  Speaker 1: because the title, I think you know, just looking at it,
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  Speaker 1: the Bijean part we know after that, I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: Bejean part sets up the rest of the puzzle. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we know if he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five, I'm going to put a
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  Speaker 1: ten percent range on it because could be twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: could be thirty two, could be who knows. But just
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  Speaker 1: when you know that, you kind of know who is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be owned or where the rest of
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  Speaker 1: it is going to be spread out. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: willing to play the field or take an underweight stance
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  Speaker 1: or even in some cases where people just fade Bijon
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  Speaker 1: up top, then you're able to get a tunnel leverage
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of different places. It's just where do
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  Speaker 1: you want to go and what do you feel comfortable with?
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  Speaker 2: So I'll let you start it off.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add from Hoops Grand Scheme
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  Speaker 1: overview about the game in general and then take us
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  Speaker 1: into your captain thoughts from there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as the game in general, like looking
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  Speaker 4: at the five and a half point favorites are the
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  Speaker 4: Buccaneers forty three and a half total, it's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: low total in the sense of, Yeah, if we see
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  Speaker 4: like the Chargers game, what is it, twenty two to
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  Speaker 4: nineteen kickers, A defense is the lower scoring in the game.
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  Speaker 4: The more defenses kickers and more than you can leave
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  Speaker 4: salary on the slate. So if you do see it
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  Speaker 4: like that, the stuff with Bijon up top, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be the chalkiest for sure. I think I'm definitely
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  Speaker 4: gonna play a lot at captain and then the underweight flex.
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  Speaker 4: And the reason for that is it feels like, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he always has the algier stuff where he can get
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  Speaker 4: vulted twice, so his floor is a little lower than
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  Speaker 4: we're expecting, like ten last game, that's probably not optimal
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  Speaker 4: at eleven point two, k thirty three, probably captain optimal fourteen,
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  Speaker 4: maybe not good enough at flex thirty three, captain optimal
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  Speaker 4: ten six. So it feels like there's been a lot
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  Speaker 4: of some highs and then definitely some lows, and when
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  Speaker 4: I'm fading Bijon, it's really easy to play some Tyler
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  Speaker 4: Elgier or just play like a five to one Buccaneers
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  Speaker 4: or stuff, just hoping they pound them.
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  Speaker 5: And Kirk Cousins is awful.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm playing a lot of Bjon and then when
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  Speaker 4: I don't play Bijon up top, then I can get
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  Speaker 4: I'll be underweight flex and I'll have probably overweight Bjon
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  Speaker 4: no Bijon teams, and then I can play them heavy
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  Speaker 4: Buccaneers and Tyler El's year, I think I'm definitely playing
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts at MVP or a captain too. He's been
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  Speaker 4: Kirk Cousin's favorite target. No Drake London. The price is good,
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  Speaker 4: nothing really else to say. He's an easy click for
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  Speaker 4: me there. Als Her is the one that I think
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  Speaker 4: I might manually bump, and it's just you talk about
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  Speaker 4: it a good bit, whether it's in certain price ranges
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  Speaker 4: or the leverage off a certain spots. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 4: no clear direct pivot to Bijon Robinson then Tyler El year.
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  Speaker 4: They take Bijon out all the time. Alsier can score
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  Speaker 4: touchdowns when he does. Bijon's not He's the highest owned
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  Speaker 4: by far, so yeah, I'm gonna place him up top
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  Speaker 4: too and just go all the way to try and
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  Speaker 4: make the direct pivot if he falls in the box twice. Now,
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  Speaker 4: anytime I say falls in the box, I think of
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  Speaker 4: that dude.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately covered on that one said you know our guy.
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  Speaker 4: Is falling in the box tonight literally just took it
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  Speaker 4: from my Yeah, my mouth.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like it. I hope not.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be cheering for for Bejon tonight. Buccaneers. I definitely
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  Speaker 4: like Baker. Baker and Buckier are my favorites. But we
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  Speaker 4: talked about it. With all these receivers healthy now, Buka Evans,
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  Speaker 4: Godwin McMillan, the props are kind of spread out. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that's good for Baker. Captain A can run touchdowns too,
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  Speaker 4: but he can spread it out so much. And then
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  Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, I mean, he's their best running back. It
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  Speaker 4: is a little scary though, Like Sean Tucker still got
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  Speaker 4: his drive last week and he looked good at it,
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  Speaker 4: where Sean White still got like a fourth and one carry.
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  Speaker 5: They're involved, but it's still Bucky as the lead back.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'll listen to what you guys are doing at the
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  Speaker 4: receivers for the Buccaneers up top.
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  Speaker 5: Because that's a pretty tough decision.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: You got to give our man Derek a little love
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  Speaker 1: always here from straight from the classroom.
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  Speaker 2: But he says, what's up, fellas.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Just interview for an assistant principal. Gig may not be
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: the teacher no more? Right, does that work? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, best of luck and man, get out of that classroom.
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming the schedule is a little more flexible. He
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: won't have to distract the kids during the ship at
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: nation showtime anymore. You can just you know, chill back
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: at the office and enjoy I got.
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  Speaker 1: A take though, He's like, maybe it's worse unfortunately, because like,
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  Speaker 1: what what if the actual principle, like the principal the
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  Speaker 1: main is a bit of a dick or it's like
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  Speaker 1: on your case and always trying to check in and
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  Speaker 1: being that kind of purpose against sports all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You get the gig that you want to get, but
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  Speaker 1: then it's like, damn, I can't have full control anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's brutal.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll have to see let us know.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna let us know for sure, Yeah, because that'll
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: change his name Derek the teacher.
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  Speaker 5: Derek is the.
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  Speaker 1: Principle a Derek ape Man. I hear the principle. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the difference if that's the same thing or not,
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  Speaker 1: but they can so I guess who while kicking to
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  Speaker 1: you who the title was asking about the receiving options
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  Speaker 1: up in the captain spot. You can give us sort
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  Speaker 1: of your Bijon take quarterbacks and then if anything you're
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  Speaker 1: doing with the running backs outside of Bijon, and then
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  Speaker 1: of course the Buccaneers side.
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  Speaker 2: You have three guys to choose from. But give us
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think title had a good point about the
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  Speaker 3: Bijon thing. It's like, you know, even with this team
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  Speaker 3: being worse, you know, with with pen X out, like
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  Speaker 3: when Bijeon gets there, it's usually a full on explosion.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's like, you know, all the way there.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty rare where he ends up like eighteen or
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  Speaker 3: something like. When he gets there, he gets all the
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  Speaker 3: way there, So you know, maybe you do just eat
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: it a little bit at the captain spot because it
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: is difficult, but after him, like Kyle Pitts, I absolutely love,
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Like we've talked about Kyle Pitts the last couple of
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: weeks with Kirk Cousins. He doesn't have the arm strength
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: to get it down the field, like it's just going
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: the short stuff to Kyle Pitts. The targets have been
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: very solid for Pits in the last two weeks eight
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: and eight and ten eighty two yards, ninety yards no touchdown.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Like if he gets something like that and then falls
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: into the box, I'm gonna use the term, then you're
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: talking a big boy score. So you know, those are
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: really the only two on the Atlanta side that I'm
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: interested in, just Bijon and Pitts. Does get more difficult though.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: On the Tampa Bay side, I definitely like Bucky. I mean,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to continue to trend in his direction.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: The workload it's been there since returning from in injury
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: last week, Uh, you know, fifteen carries so I was
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: like that sloppy rain sort of games. So there wasn't
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: much you know, passing stuff going on. Both teams are
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: just trying to jam it down the other's throat and
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: somehow what's the guy's name, Devin Neal is at his
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: first name, Neil, dev Neil, like one out the battle.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I mean just absolutely insane, very painful. It it'll cost
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: us a lot of uh survivor equity, but you know
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: it's irrelevant for this show. But yeah, Bucky, I would
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: really like Baker up top with all these weapons. I mean,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: it could go to I mean they have so many
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: guys now, you know, all you have two running backs
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: that catch the ball, Bucky and Rashad White. You got
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: your main three wide receivers now playing Evans and Buka
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and Dan Godwin. And then you still have other random
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: dudes that will probably mix in a little bit, Jalen McMillan,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Sterling Shepherd, and then you have a couple of random tennis.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: There's like nine ten guys that he could be throwing
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: the ball to today. That's like perfect for a quarterback captain.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: So he is probably my favorite on the tample side.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe in the game I will say I think he's
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: probably my favorite captain today, Baker. Then Bucky Igboka tempted
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: to play a little bit of Mike Evans. I mean,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the workload is going to be you know,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: held in check a little bit, but he has multiple
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: touchdown upside, they're going to use them in high leverage situations.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So good with him, you know, just to to give
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a quick show ranking Baker, Bucky Pitts, i'd say or
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: my top three.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like quite a bit of what you said.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: They're definitely glad. You know, when you're on the quarterback days,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it's usually a good time because you know, I'm always
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: interested in that. And on the on the Buccaneers side,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: having Baker up top always makes a ton of sense. There's,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you know, just so many guys. Now we got even
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: more of them mixed in. I like the Kyle Pitts call.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: On the other side, it's been a lot of him.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll most likely be underweight on bijon just the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: way it's setting up, because if it's actually he is
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be like thirty, you could play twenty and then
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: still have all that money to move around, and then
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play a ton of different options, I
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: don't think, because when you look at the other ones
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: on the Tampa baseie, the one that certainly stands out
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to me is like Baker and Bucky are both being
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: held in check because of certain items. One for Baker,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of because quarterbacks in general, and the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: fact that Bijon's almost thirty, and then all the other
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: guys on the between the pass catchers and the running
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: backs on the Buccaneers does hold the options there in check.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But with Bucky, I think it's like people are scared
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: because what title said, you saw last game with like
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Tucker and White, and that's what all the articles say
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: and all this that, and the other people look at
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the props. He's got like ninety all purpose, the other
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: guy's like forty or thirty nine or less. He's plus
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: one fifteen right behind Bijon to score a touchdown, like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: they're not afraid. Everyone wanted Bucky this past week against
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: New Orleans and he did not fully come through.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: But now you're going up against a pretty.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Good spot for you know, a solid rush D matchup
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: for him, and if we think they're winning the game,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I prefer that. And then lastly, I'll have some Evans
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and Godwin, but I actually like it. Guka Uh definitely
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: hurt some people's feelings last game. He'll be sub ten
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: percent by the looks of it up top, and I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: think having all those guys back sort of just spreads
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it out a little bit more and makes room for him.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Oftentimes people move away.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: From a good option because like, oh, well, he's a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: really good option when those guys were out.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I still think they're going to want to keep him going.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of the coach speak and the talk around
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that is to keep him going and keep him happy
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and keep him motivated. Not happy, I mean, just keep
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: him motivated, especially after last game dropping that touchdown in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the end zone.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So I think they could go back to him there,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and I think we might just.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Add on to that point real quick before we move on.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: It's like he you know, he was playing better when
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: when Evans was in there, Like you know, he's kind
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: of struggled as the main attract, not struggled, but he
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: hasn't had the high upside as like the main attraction.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I think Evans being back is a plus for for
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Guka here.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed, and I'll bring up Derek. Thing is good.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'll bring it up quickly now. The principal texts
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: me about DFS on Sundays. Good good, nice, that's awesome, man.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, hit that point too, the same thing. It's
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: like he was crushing early on with with Evans in
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: So I think I'm viewing it as a plot for him,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: not a not a negative right, and that's.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: That's when some people go the opposite way with it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I agree that might help Derek's chances.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, go ahead, Oh, I was gonna
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: say that hoops ooops trigger happy today. It's like you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: on the the comments, but we had that other one
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: up before. I agree with what Naves was saying and
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: what you said. I was just gonna go back to
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: this one for two seconds, just because it doesn't seem
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like anybody is scared like he's gonna He's gonna be
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: heavily owned in the flex he's held in check up top,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: just because there's a ton of other options and Beijon
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: taking up almost thirty percent of it. The props aren't scared,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the books aren't scared, like the numbers exist. If you
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: think that, I mean, it would be a great time
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to hit his under on. I think it's almost ninety
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: all purpose. It's like up there, even with rushing. So
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: if you don't think he's in a good spot, I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: definitely think that's possible. But all good points that were
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: brought up.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: And he definitely separated and probably the most important this
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: map of the game last week, he had a lot
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: of separation and just couldn't catch the fucking football that
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: was very unfortunately.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Separated the ball from his hands.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And there lots of games, so it was unfortunate for
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: all of us, especially in the survivor streets. Like you said,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: but that's the way it goes. I mean, I do
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think people are going to find him here. I think
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: he's still more popular in the flex than Evans and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Godwin and whatnot. But I think when you're just thinking
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: about up top, it would be especially the way we
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: talk about Baker and the way we talk about quarterbacks
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: when we're willing to play them. The reason when we
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: are playing it's because they're going to spread it out
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: so much. It's like, Okay, Aguca gets the Knight that
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I won with DeVante Adams. I was like, there's no
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: way at the halftime because you've got a Stafford version
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of it right there. He's going to hit the bonus.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: He's not going to throw it to Adams every play
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the rest of the game. It's more than likely they
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: take over the spot. So that ends up in this
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: case reversing it to where Agbuka might be eight percent
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: in the captain or something like that. So I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that's definitely an opportunity to get fifteen percent or something,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: or get overweight and get a nice stance there that way. Title,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Do you have anything else you want to add to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that stuff? Or if not, you could take us into
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the next section here. I think that rounds up Captain.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think I'm gonna play some big Buka
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: up top. Maybe Mike Evans Godwin would be my least favorite.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I agree with a lot of your talking points. Flex
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: for the running back stuff. Yeah, Bucky Bijon Algier I mentioned,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I'll probably be underweight Bijon in the flex, probably overweight
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: A in the flex.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Like I said, I probably will get a little Algier Captain.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I still don't love it, but I will play it
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: in the flex, And that's totally a way you can
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: play them both together. When you do, I would play
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: that as the Falcons won the game. So on the
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Tampa side, I maybe use receivers as a run back
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: something like that. Rashad White as a solid price take
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: him m Algier forty point two K four K. Both
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: backup running backs have a solid projection in a range
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: that I mean isn't too strong, Like if you're going up,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: you're getting to the kickers and D's if you go
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: below you do have this Dylan drumming guy. We'll talk
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: about Payne Durham, Like those are the clear people cheaper
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: that are gonna get ownership, and then it's gonna be
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: those two running backs. I prefer Algieer, I think. But yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I mean if Tampa is trailing too, you probably will
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: see more Shot White catching passes. So in your handbuilding
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: and stuff, I would play a game script like that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure about Sean Tucker. I wanted to hear
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: your guys take on that, Like I don't see any
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: props on DraftKings. Snap counts really low, but he's two
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: point four k and like I just said, Dylan Drummond
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: four hundred less gonna be way more popular. David Stills
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: for a little more will be popular more popular too.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And Payne Durham from cheaper. He's like the only one
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I see that is in that range that's really not
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: getting ownership that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked at.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Like if he gets a touchdown or someone gets hurt
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is, he gets his drive and he
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: does well.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: I could see him maybe being optimist. What's your guys'
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: thoughts on him?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Nine and a half is the prop on him right now?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, it is ten and a half all part like
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: rushing receiving, so not much, but that's part of I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: think the projection to your point. But yeah, two twenty
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: four hundred not gonna have any ownership. And I say
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that like it's an expensive price more just like when
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: people are looking at the props and the projections, that's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, why would I pay for anything
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you can get a guy like Payne Durham down there
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: at six hundred and save you know, one fourth of
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the money type thing.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So I think that's how people are looking at it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if i'd have to see what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I get before I run my final one fifty.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But I think the Rashad White one is.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: More interesting, even though you do got to pay up
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: for it, because he's gonna be less owned than Algier,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: but he kind of leverages both sides. Like if it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a Rashad White game, can Bijon still get there? Of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: course he can, it's Bijean, But I'm saying it's like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that would be something with the Tampa side. Most likely
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it would affect Bucky, it could affect Robinson, and from
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a price perspective, it could also It would also affect
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the four k Algier play with maybe double the ownership.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So I think the Rashad White one is interesting for
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: many reasons. If it happens, who knows, But from a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: game theory perspective, it kind of makes a little bit
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: of sense.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Hoop any added thoughts there.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I run my teams and I get some.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Sean Tucker like, I'm fine with it. They like the guy.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: He's gonna get some action. It's not like he's gonna
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: get like nothing and not play like he's gonna get
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: some action. It can be high leverage situations where they
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: use them as well. I mean, obviously with Bucky and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Rashad White in there, it's a it's a little muddier
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: of a play, but low owned some touchdown upside. I'm
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, I'd be fine playing some in certain sort
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: of lineups. You know, We've talked about, Bijon talked about
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Bucky definitely want some Algier. I mean, they love using
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: them if they get their ass kicked in this game,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Like he'll get a good run at the end. He's
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: four k you know, he just randomly is in there
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: and for a goal line work like out of nowhere,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: like Bijon could be crushing the entire drive and it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: almost like this guy's the the goal line back or something,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: so uh want some of him? And then yeah, Rashad Way.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, I usually don't like the backup running backs
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: all that much, but I kind of do on this
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: on the slate because the teams like using these guys.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: It's not like they're not using them. Algier is a
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: part of their offense, and I probably prefer him over
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Rashad White, but there is an ownership difference. Like you
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: guys touched on twenty you know Algiers. Maybe what are
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: we showing in the flex We got Algier at nineteen
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: yeh yeah, and then White thirteen, so you're looking seven
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: eight nine percent different. But it shouldn't matter all that much.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I do prefer Algier over White, but yeah, I'm good
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: with these backups today more so than I typically am.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Interesting title too, I'm not sure if it's the same
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: on your book, but Algier better anytime touchdown prop than Pits.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yep too well, DK's got it the same book plus
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: two thirty five for both. Interesting to note Bijon on Monday,
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I really look at touched on props early, but I
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: got my big basketball team. It was minus one fifty
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: now it's minus one twenty. I do think there is
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: some worry. People are talking like Bijon's playing time. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: know to go Collect mentioned it earlier. In a close game,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I think you see it normal. But if the game
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: gets out of hand, like I mean, we've seen some
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: of these lately, and that's kind of why I'm talking
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: about Bijon captain, I don't like it as much at flex. Yeah,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: if they're down three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, like
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: he just really won't be out there. Algier will get it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Garbage time counts the same.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it props and everything right now at five
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: and a half point spread, if it's a touchdown game,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the whole way, I don't think anything changes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, Like I know you said it earlier, but
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I just reiterating it. Like you said, is if it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a big game and he's in it, it's probably because
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of him to roll him up top. If it's not
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: as big of a game and they're out of it,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Like there is something to be said for that down low,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: because it's funny most almost any captain you go to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that's not Bijon, it's probably almost the first click for
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: everybody after like, Okay, I got Baker up top, I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: going Bijon on the other side of what receivers can
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I fit or you know, this, that and the other.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure Pits will fill some of those spots
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: because like, well, I kind of want Baker with two
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: big dogs and then I'll just take Pits. But I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: just saying I think that's something to think about for
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the handbuilders, the single entry three max type setups. It's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: definitely an interesting way to look at it. Hoop, do
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you have anything else you want to add at the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: running back position? If not, you can go more on
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. Wide receiver one Darnell Mooney for the Falcons
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: over there, David Sills, the fifth. I mean we get
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of seconds and thirds with the fifth. This
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: guy's doing his thing, and then Dylan Drummond title mentioned
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys are on the Buck side.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: It's definitely ugly on the Atlanta side, but the Tampa
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Bay side is. I mean, there's guys there, but there's
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys, and I guess that's kind of
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: somewhat of the problem. I mean, Nigbuka like him. We
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: already talked about him. Godwin's in there, you know, probably
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: tough to play him up top, but in the flex
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: find there Mike Evans like, how much are they going
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to use him today? Coming back from the injury? You know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: he's making it sound like he's one hundred percent. He
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: got three solid guys there, and then Jalen McMillan's coming back.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They've used Sterling Shepherd as well. They've used this Tesz Johnson.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: So there's like potentially six guys that could be out
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: on the field. And that's why I really like Baker
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: up top because there's so many dudes that Baker could
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: potentially throw the football to today, and a lot of
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it comes down to how many snaps Mike Evans is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: going to play, Because if he's one hundred percent or
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: close to one hundred and he's out there the whole time,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: then there ain't gonna be much to go around, so
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: it doesn't make it difficult. And again that's why I
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: prefer like these Baker captain teams because I can mix
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: in kind of all these guys, especially if you're building
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: multiple teams, so that side is clear and muddy, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: guess at the same time, just because there's so many
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: dudes Atlanta side. The main issue is obviously the quarterback
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: being Kirk Cousins. I got Mooney, Drummond, Sills. I mean,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the problem is like two out of three of these
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: guys are probably busting right, Like, if you look at
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Mooney drumming skills, I would bet that only one one
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: of these guys gets there whatever it is, like, you know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: gets double digits or something. So to me, two out
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: of three are going to fail, and they're looking to
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: get pretty solid ownership, like they're going to be owned
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: because of the price tag and the opportunity. But you know, again,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is the one throwing the football, so I'd
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: be cautious there. If you just run teams like you're
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: probably going to get a lot of those guys. They're
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: just going to naturally show up because of the savings
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: that they provide. On the slate, we're showing eighteen percent
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: for Drummond, I guess eighteen for Sills and then Mooney
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like around twenty So combine sixty sixty five percent low furs,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I mean very low floors for all those guys. The
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: wide receiver one at this point is Kyle Pitts and
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: then number two is probably Bijon. So these guys are
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to me like wide receiver three four five. So I
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: would be cautious with these cheap Atlanta guys again because
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: if you just run the optimiser, you're going to get
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of them. So yeah, it's kind of thoughts
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I like the call out there the wide receiver one
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: pits wide receiver two Bijon are like mix it up
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and then that becomes three four five. The thing is
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay. You know, if you're a ranking wide
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: receivers both sides, they would be priced I mean they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: would be the four or five six or whatever, five
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: six seven, whatever you want to call it, and they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: are priced down like if you look at Ibuka ninety
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: two nine, k Evans eighty four. God when it at
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: least they got the pricing right. But the hoops point, man,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: with those floors, it's really tricky and the likelihood that
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know, not all of them get through one other
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: thing title kick it to you for your wide receiver thoughts,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: But our man marquees in the chat doesn't seem like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: these are that popular today, and I feel like they
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: should be specifically on the Tampa Bay side again, can
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you can build them on the Atlanta side too? It's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: just way trickier because who would you put so you
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: got to you gotta pick five, and how can you
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: pick two or three? But it's on the other side, though.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I think there's definitely some good bucks stacks that work. Again,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I know it does. We've said it before and then
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: you had a chance to get up there with it,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and I like it more for smaller, really small fields
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like the one to five. But there could be like
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a Bijon up top with five of those guys and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you still get a competitive game. It's just Bijon all.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: From that, I guess you could do like Beijon pits
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: two fours, but I mean there's ways you could build
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: for sure on the sleep. But five to one does
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: seem interesting. Give me your thoughts there and then going
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to the wide receivers.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: What you're thinking, Yeah, I agree, I think five ones
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: on both sides are interesting. I think the Tampa side,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: like you have Pain Durham for value and you have
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: that's the problem. That's why I, to be honest, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: guess I like the Atlanta side. It'd have to be
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: where a shot white maybe more middling like the Atlanta side.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: When you go five to one, I think it's easier
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: because you get Drummond and you get Stills. Then you
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: can go All's Year, and yes it's popular, but the
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: five to one build is getting you different. You can
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: eat more popular pieces.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Just let me reject for one second. I want to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: ask you on that because you said something there, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: don't you think like the way I was thinking of it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: That's why these shows are always fun. We throw things
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: back and forth.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: It's like my take was more hoop is correct on
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: like all these guys have floors and maybe only one
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: gets through. So it's like you can fit five guys
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: on the Bucks side that you feel good about and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: then just take your shot that you hit the the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: one off on that side, and no one's gonna really
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: do that, like they're five ones already low, and then
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: it's like what if they don't come through? You don't
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: even need Bjon in that case to your point earlier.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's a five bucks one al year or something
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: at four K and it fits both game scripts. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I was just trying to like, if
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you did put plug in Bijon up top at captain
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: and then you try and go five to one, because,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: like you're mentioning, the receivers are so expensive you can't
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: make it work hard.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Now, Yeah, if you do
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the bj obviously back to the other side.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you now, Yeah, but yeah, it's interesting.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I think five ones are very much in play. Again,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the lower score in the game too, the lower scores
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: for fantasy points, more randomness can happen. And yeah, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Hoop's point like he nailed receiver. If you look at
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: like the props pits has the best reception prop and yards,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: then it's Bijon, and then then it's all these guys
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: and there's these drum in stills. Uh so two and
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a half is the receiving or reception prop juice on
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the under for all of them except Mooney has a
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: little juice on the over. With all that being said,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: like it's gonna be contradicting, but I do prefer them
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: over Tampa Bay stuff because of their prices, like nine
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: to Iguca, eight to four Godwin nine k Evans is
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: big price. The value is really tough on this slate.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Like I mentioned again, Payne Durham is gonna get ownership,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: has a projection, and then it's these guys. It's Stills,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: it's Drummond. That's why, like if you want to play
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Sean Tucker, you want to play Tompkins. Like there's pivots,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: but they're projected for like one point five points. These
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: guys at least will be on the field. I need
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: value on this slate. I'm just naturally gonna have to
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: play them. As far as the Tampa stuff, I think,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I like like Igbuka Godwin more than the flex. And
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: then Mike Evans feels like he either gets his two touchdowns,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: which is I don't know if he gets two touchdos.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: It feels like it has to be enough up top today,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: but it feels like his playing time they might it
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: just might be in more crucial situations and might not
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: be as much in between the twenties, like the receptions
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: and all that, So it feels like more of a boom.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Bus play that I prefer captain.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Prefer Godwin, Boouca Moore Buka is my favorite at captain
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: or flex at the position, but I think Godwin I
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: prefer more in the flex.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Evan's more in the captain.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: When comparing that's really it, though, I think it's pretty
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: thin in terms of how many receivers are in the pool,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Like that's really six guys, three on both sides.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Otherwise you're getting to guys that are hardly going to
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: see the field.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We've talked about a ton of different shows where
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it's like this is kind of the setup when you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: don't get It's different on this late because we do
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: have values, like the kickers are for it. We'll get
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: there in a second. Of course, I'm gonna go Inzane
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez if I keep seeing these kickers getting five points
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: apiece for four kicks. But and you can't spell McLaughlin
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: without laughing, so boys will be laughing at all this stuff,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. But the you know, as they just kick three,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: four or five field goals. But either way, there is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: at least value in those guys in Durham. And if
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you but then it's like you said, is we don't
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: know if Sills and Drummond are values until we know
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and to Hoop's point earlier, when they're four or five
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and six on the team, or and you say at
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the position they're you know, five, six, seven, eight, like
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: they're on the board and they can have you know,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: could do nothing, then it's not really like we have
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a ton of value. And sometimes the way to flip
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that is through roster construction and through the captain talk
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we had earlier, where you're like, all right, well I'll
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: find a guy like That's where a Pits lineup can
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: make more sense, like Okay, he's ninety six hundred up top.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I don't have to feel like I'm going to no
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: man's land with this, and then let's go from there.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't got too much else to add. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: think you guys nailed it. I like the Ibuca conversation there.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely not as high on the Atlanta side even
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: with you know, will I have them, Yes, I'm playing
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: one hundred fifty lineups. Will Will they just fit in
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: get in where they fit in? Yes, Because anybody who
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: tells you they sort of know what's going on there
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: outside of the props and the projections they're not gonna
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: know much. It could be anything, so I don't mind
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: mixing them in. But I think the best point that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: was brought up about that is, like, if you know
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: in the chat talking about roster construction was the five
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to one stuff. You can definitely build some five ones
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that ignore the wide receiver room altogether for the falcons
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and just has like an algier, a pits whatever you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: want to do that way and build it out because
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you do have value a little bit on the other
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: side with Durham. So I'll use that to segue Hoop
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the tight end position. We will have Ship of Games
• 36:04
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• 36:07
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• 36:09
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• 36:12
  Speaker 1: We are launching the twelve Days of Shipmates tomorrow, which
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: is a ton of fun. I'll talk more about that
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: near the end and give you guys a few spoilers
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: if you want to get ahead on that one with
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: some big prizes coming your way. But Hoop, I'll go
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: back to you here. Anything else a wide receiver after
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you know we both and all three of us talk
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: through it and then if not, you could take us
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: into tight end with Max Pain Durham.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Max Pain is back six hundred for him, He's gonna
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: be popular, you know, the decent projection. No Kate Otten
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: another guy like I said, like these Baker Mayfield Captain
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: teams like perfect fit for those sort of teams. We're
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: showing what a we got eleven percent? I bet it's higher.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it has to get up a
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: little bit more, probably fifteen ish range. We'll see when
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: it's all said and done, but I think it gets up.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I guess there are a lot of cheap options on
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the slate, so maybe it is held in check. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: fine with him. And then this, you know, Devin Kulp
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: guy for two hundred. Do you want to throw him
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: into the pool if you're playing a bunch of teams,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Fine with that. But we talked about Pits a ton
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: probably my favorite overall play on the slate, fits all
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: sorts of builds. The prices is solid. He's gonna be popular,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. But I really like him
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: at the sixty four hundred. Not too much more here
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: to say it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Tight End, Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Title, have you got more I mean the.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Man like the Pain Durham thing. That's so I said,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it's maxim. I don't think he's gonna be crazy owned,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: but I can definitely see like twelve to twenty. I'll
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: put a big when it's when I'm unsure, I'm gonna
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: put a bit bigger range on it. But he could
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: be like twelve to twenty in the flex. And if
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that's the case, I mean, he's a six hundred dollars guy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: He makes everything work, but you'd kind of have to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: flip the build with a lower priced cap. It's gonna
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: be like, think about this and this. For some people
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: it's like second nature. Others don't think about it too much.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: But once you got a Bijon Captain or something like that,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it's like, obviously Pain just fits in there. Oh, that
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: makes it all work, and I get it for higher stake,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: smaller field and then it becomes like he's even more
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: owned because of how obvious that is. But for the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: large field stuff, it sometimes is tricky unless you're building
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: with money on the table, completely different set up, all
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: different factors you could factor in. What do you think
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: about Payne Durham and the rest of these spots.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: My initial thought was when Hoop said eleven percent, I
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: was like, man, that does feel light.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: I'm really conflicted because if I raise this to seventeen,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I think the play becomes a lot worse. If he's
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: eleven percent, I mean, sign me up. It's a tight
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: end one at six hundred bucks on a slate that
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I don't love value.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: You can leave Monny like I'm in.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Props aren't great though, one and a half like a
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: coin flip twelve and a half yards. But again, he's
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: six hundred bucks, like four could be enough if that's
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: how the slate works out.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Again, I don't know even.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Even bijon being thirty plus in the Captain because.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: I believe that, I do believe it. I think people
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: are going.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: To struggle with the story. Yeah there's violation there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, one hundred percent.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I do think people are gonna struggle picking which Tampa
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: guy up top, and I don't know quarterbacks people also struggle,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: so Devin, I hope not. But yeah, he'll be on
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: the field.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: How much is he I mean, what are Oh.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have a prop from what I'm seeing, I'm
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: seeing plus eleven for a touchdown.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: God, those odds are so so bad.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: The only good odd was the other night. The good
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: odds was the.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Other night for Tyler Conklin. I got my money back
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: on that one because he didn't even play. But damn,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that was a good spot, all right. I mean, I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: definitely don't have much else to add. It's the you know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the Kyle Pitts spot. I think the more interesting about
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is like using him in a five to one, right,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna substitute him for something else completely, You're just
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be the guy. I think Algier is
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: still really interesting in those builds as well, with the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: five to one, just because he fits the narrative of Okay,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Tampa's up, they're doing their thing and rolling Algier. Like
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I said, really, my book actually hasn't better anytime touchdown
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to score than Pits. So it's like a touchdown is
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: not the be all end all, but it's a great
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: start for a four thousand dollars guy like that, that's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: definitely an opportunity. So I have interest there for sure.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Hoop I already made my kicker jokes and people now
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: think I just hate them and make I play a
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: ton of kickers. I love kickers, I just hate the scoring.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: But go ahead, I'll let you talk about these kickers.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm playing them. I mean preferred chase obviously,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: but you know Zay is fine, definitely wants some Bucks defense.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, you get the opportunity to go against Kirk Cousins,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, statue turnover prone. I think it's a really
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: good opportunity for the Bucks D. And ownership's looking relatively low.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I mean a lot of times these defenses have surprised
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: us with higher ownership. I mean we're showing twelve eleven, twelve, Like, yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I actually like the Bucks D quite a bit today,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: so more so than usual. Side rank it when you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: looking at kickers and d's at Sam McLoughlin Bucks D
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: and then Zaye.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Man Bucks D Captain.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know I'm not doing that, but maybe title.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's definitely another slate
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: where we see the kickers just way higher on than
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the defense. But it's worked so well that why would
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it not. And it's like, you know, Bucks actually cost
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: by the way. The interesting part about that is the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Bucks cost more than all of them, right, the Bucks
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: are the most expensive of the Kickers and DST so
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: any anything you want to add there, go ahead. Title.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: But I get that it's a softer conversation for some people.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Some people love these Kickers, some people hate them.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we all play the same game. Whether
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: if you hate them because they keep burning, you start
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: playing them. If it's the opposite, don't play. I mean
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: it's that easy.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: The point that you made the last point though, like
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: how Buccaneers are projected for so much low ownership because
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: they're fifty four hundred, it's more expensive than all of them. Sure, Like,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I like what Hoop said. If Hoop likes a defense,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: you better listen. Then they're eleven percent, you better listen
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: even more.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I'm in, Yeah, there's not much ownership on either.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not really flip the build because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: no one's on the other side. But this is more
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like leverage because if everyone's on Bucky and Mike Evans
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and Nigbuka and Baker whatever. Yeah, I mean you get
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of leverages. Most lineups are gonna have three
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: plus Bucks in them, So anything with Falcons d is
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be you know, much much more likelihood, much higher
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: likelihood if it goes that way, to be extremely helpful
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to you, because not man, you're going to have that
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to start with, let alone, you know less of those
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: guys or things that make sense with those builds. So
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you can definitely play some Falcons D for that reason.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: What was the game log hunter over there looking at
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: whop did you see zan Gonzalez and uh, Chase, I'm
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: gonna try and pull it up here too.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Chase nine, ten, one, eight has a seventeen in there
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: early on in the season of twenty one is sixteen,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: so he's got some uh, he's got some big potential.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: And Zane's actually been solid six twelve, fifteen, eight ten,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: so double digits three out of five games. Take that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I kind of like Zane.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: That's a you know, classic Atlanta And it would burn
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Bijeon too a little bit because it's what they always
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Here's what they always do. They use Bijeon.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how this works.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Their best player gets them all the way down to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the end zone and then it's like as for as
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: much as we complain about the algier stuff, it's oftentimes
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's even worse. It's they they then they screw
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: around once they get down there and they get nothing
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: for it. And that's why your boy Zayin is getting
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: those kicks, because they just do not you've seen it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: So Tyler, el's your bang bang bang nothing. All right,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: let's run bijon boom in the end, bog Oh he
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: softened it up. You know when they you know, you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: loosen the jar, and you know, you try and loosen
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: it up, and then the other you hand it off.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I can't get it and then the other person just
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: snaps it over. And I've done that to my wife.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: But many times she's like, oh, I loosened it for you, Like, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I snap her off, right, you got it. That's what
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: happens with these two running backs.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Anything else, anything else that you got their title on
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: your side, anything else you want to bring up there.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'll let Hoop look up the FanDuel differences and whatnot
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and we'll try and chime in. But anything, just putting
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: it all together at the end. Some onimes we do
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: this sort of roundtable at the end of all of
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: our thoughts. Anything else that comes to mind when when
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: looking at the slate, as a whole.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really I think the player pool is
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: a lot more condensed than most slates, with really only
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: three viable receivers on both sides, really only one tight
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: end on each side that people are interested in. You
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: do have the two running backs on both sides, which
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: expands it a little bit, but yeah, leaving money is
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: definitely viable. Forty three and a half totals, so we
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: could see, yeah, like a lower scoring game, but it's
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: really condensed because like again the value is Payne Durham,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: it's the drum and Stills kickers. D's like there's only
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: so many that have a projection down below, and it
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: feels like the Tampa Bay receiving rooms a little overpriced.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's I don't know. I wouldn't say it's
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: my favorite slate, but it's not my least favorite slate.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Putting the puzzles together, roster construction wise, the little things
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: you can do to get different, like it, you got
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: to be cautious.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: You got to be cautious about that today.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Just really really dial in on it because large field
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: tournaments you'll see a lot of teams with a lot
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: of dupes. If you're not leaving much salary because you
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: fall into the same stuff.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: There's some nasty five ones out there that you can build.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: So yeah, hopefully people caught that. I think that's the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: key of looking at just for different stuff. Doesn't mean
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's gonna hit for sure. I'm just saying it's. Looking
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: at the slate, it looks like a lot more people
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: want to build with like a four to two or
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a three three, And there's definitely a possibility for some
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: five ones here when you're playing. When you get the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Falcons playing against the Buccaneers, there's always a chance for
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: something like that. The two fours always become interesting as
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you can run those from either side.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: But hoop, what are you seeing over there?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Any other final thoughts previous to the next question, or
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: if not, you can take us into the fan dual differences.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, FanDuel definitely looks much tougher, I'll say, I mean
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the prices are up there like Beijon thirteen, k Baker
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: twelve to two, Bucky twelve six. Then there is a
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: gap to the next tier guys, But the next year
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: is like Kirk Cousins and idiots like that, so you
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: start going down. I mean Kyle Pitts eighty four, I
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: think is fine. You know Mike Evans at ten six,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: big price tag, Chris Godwin nine k. Then like those
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: cheap guys that we talked about over on DK are
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: not like super cheap, they're like free on DK. But
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: you come over here. David Sills is sixty four hundred,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Drummond forty eight hundred, even the backup running backs Algier
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: seventy four, Rashad White seven k. You know Payne Durham's
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: cheap at fourteen hundred, colp Is one thousand, Jalen McMillan
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: fifty six hundred. Like it's it's gonna be tougher to
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: build teams. I'll run FanDuel opposed to DK because those
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: you know, cheap really cheap plays on DK aren't you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: as cheap over on FanDuel. So it's gonna be a
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: little more difficult.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: What's the thing about last game that we know and
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the last few games Scooter that we don't care about, right,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: that's the one. I love Scooter, but that's my my
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: favorite thing to always talk about. I had to laugh
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: though the Andrew Caledon he goes Kirk Cousins and idiots
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like that just absolutely calls them out. So, yeah, we
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: knew Kirk Cousins wasn't making the top fifteen.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a random, random name to apply idiot,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: but it's kind of applicable.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I'd say, don't tell MISSISSOUI fan that's her favorite off
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: quarter off the Netflix special.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually know she's kind of annoyed, but that
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: he is not twice I think, right, and it's like
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I get it, but he's like he's a boring guy
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: on top of it, like he's not a good quarterback
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: and he's boring for TV. So I think she was
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: she was kind.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Of not a good quarterback, he's an idiot.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: And he's yes, yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely crushing him.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, he's still starting quarterback tonight in the NFL.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, people were.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Making all their team hasn't wy, their team has no
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: chance of making the playoffs.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Title ending us.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I mean I book a same price to I call
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it same price four hundred bucks more on Vanduel than
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: DraftKings guy touchdowns tonight, Like that's that's very possible.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: The the biggest thing I think it's a pretty similar
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: slay where the value is tough, like it's even harder,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: like Coop said, but just the lack of value, like
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: totally like Pain Durham, I think has to be pretty
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: pretty chalky.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: At one point four k, you have to.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Go almost like three k more to get a Sean Tucker,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Dylan Drummond, really anyone with some sort of projection, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I think that'll just and it's more likely that like
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: three is enough on FanDuel obviously than three means more
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: than four due to half point and that. But yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: it's man, it's it's really tough on FanDuel if you're
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: not playing Pain Durham and you're not playing this cult
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: guy like to play Bejon up Top. I don't know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: it's it's difficult over there. I haven't played as much
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: as you have, though I know you've been playing and
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: noticing a lot of solo shippers and stuff. It feels
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: like those lineups are pretty gross that do win, and
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: I guess the same can be said about DraftKings.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: But it's the salary that's being left, isn't it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's I actually find it's opposite on FanDuel in that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: it's not as gross of a lineup as much as
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: it's just like willing to leave.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Forty five hundred or sixty five.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: You're like, what the hell has the two running backs
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: from this team? It's got two kickers, Like I think
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it was the one with Gibbs Monty.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of that one Flora and NOI though when
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: it faded like so much, he needed so much to go.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well who do they play that day?
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Let me let me think of Cowboys, Lions.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Monty, both kickers, Dak.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: And that's pretty gross.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: It's like that one. That one was kind of gross actually,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: but I guess, like just in general, it's usually like
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: what you expect. It's like a pass catcher with a
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it's a it's an under owned captain. Like let's say tonight,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans is up top with Baker, and then from
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: there it's like a bunch of just random good plays
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: that you definitely talked about today.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: But you're like, what the hell, how did I not
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: get to that?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And then you look, it's like they left sixty five
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: hundred on the table and that's the version of it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, that makes more sense.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean props the fan of at least
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: getting it right making the switch.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: I just the it's like half the contest size as
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: DraftKings is so and I'm not knowing. I'm not unlimited
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: over here. You can get a lot of money on
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: these contests. Bankroll management is important. So I haven't dabbled
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: as much.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: You can get a ton down, he says. You know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not just say much, but just bankrell management is important.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Let me just let you know.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: It's easy to go crazy. Trust is everyone watching this show?
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: No is open the lobby. You can click for days
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: over there. So yeah, it's be careful. It's a whole
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: lot different we talked about, like, I mean, casinos were geniuses.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Imagine having to put your hard earned dollars like drive somewhere,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: like put that down and give it to them. When
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: you're putting your DFS entries in or your sports bets
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: are that it's a lot easier to just click on
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: the phone. You don't associate as much. So yeah, be careful.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: What is what is the elite at? That's what I
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: would like to know. He's not elite at winning football games,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: that's for sure. Just kills me.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: These people like this guy is never winning anything in
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: the NFL, like never, and he's probably honestly, And the
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: thing is that's probably outside of me winning the million.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: That's the quarterback that I've probably made the most money
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: playing in DFS. And I'm telling you he's not a
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: good quarterback.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's a key component as well.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: If we rank DFS quarterbacks versus like you know, Kobet,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he gets their garbage time.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: We always say we're the biggest proponent of that garbage time.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Is this is time in the game. We get points
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: in garbage time.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: We get points in the beginning, we get points in
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the middle, so we don't care when we get him.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: But these types of things are factored in. And like, obviously,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: if Jacoby wants to keep getting it in garbage time
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: and it's helping somebody or us, the great good for him.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: That's why we played him. It's it's part of the game.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: So don't let him actually show up for a full
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: game at any point because that'd be like a fifty
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: point performance. But yeah, big, big time difference. Uh, that
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: chat's talking about other stuff now, So I think we're
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: getting to the end. Is this a thing hoop. You
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: saw this the other day.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's wild, just an absolute idiot like I
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: mean that no, man, Like there's.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: Too many weirdos, weirdos out there.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I just I never really, I mean I didn't think
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: of was a good hire when they brought him in,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: So it kind of I don't know, Like the story
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: is pretty crazy, but it's like when you're in that
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: sort of position, man, you got to live life a
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: little more cautiously, Like you got to limit just a
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: little more cautiously, like if you're going to do something
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: like that. So I don't know. The the power of
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I guess I shul probably shouldn't say the word, but
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the power of you know what is it can overtake
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of good men.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And the pop.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to drink pop man.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: That's yes, there it is. Yes.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: When does DJ officially start back up? Fifteen?
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sony Open is what we call the official
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: official like return. There was no TOC this year at
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the Century there. But yeah, we got some big PGA
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: news coming. I'm excited to abuild that too. So the
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of good stuff on the horizon,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We got ship at games which
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: is sort of coming to an end, but there's been
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun with that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Did stop, Scooter, I trust me, I'm in the streets.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: I was in there two weeks ago. I play every
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: single slate pretty much. It stopped, right, they don't.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Have it this week or the next week of the
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: next week, so it did stop.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: But I've been riding guys like he's talking about Sea
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Wou and Sung Jay We're gonna go to live and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: then it wasn't never.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Sung Jay they said. But now even Seawou bailed on it.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna continue.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Losing nice ironic. It's like you, you know you and
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Pat Mail your boys. You Sung Jay him, the big
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Sea Wou, they both well, they were reported to go
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: and then not going.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny just got here now. So I was a
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: no show today, but wanted to say good luck to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the boys. Yeah, good good luck to you and all
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: your kicker love tonight. Can't wait to watch them get
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: quarterback points for kicking the ball through a thing. They're
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: one job. Yep, congrats, good luck and then what's it
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: say here? Thanks guys, appreciating nothing. The Grant Thornton Invitational. Yeah,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we won't be doing that much with this one as well.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: This is true though too right title.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they always give this time of here, the fighters,
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: New Year's Christmas a little time because it's pretty much NonStop.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: So yep, little break from the UFC, from from golf.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: But I mean there's still NB. I mean Christmas Day's hues,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: there's still football, of course, there's a lot of sports still.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't like to.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I know people always bitch about like them, like they're
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: paying their guys and stuff like that, but give a
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: nice little Christmas break though. It's like, you know, for
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: sure get their bonuses, get a little Christmas break, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the payments, you know, people always say that they don't
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: get paid enough or whatever.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Those protests. I don't know if you said this guy.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: He smokes like ten sakes a day and loves the parties.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Like when are you fighting next? He goes, I don't know,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: it has to be like March or some I got
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a party on New Year's and all this, but he
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: prioritizes at the parties.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: So that was funny. And for those golf too.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Sorry, yeah, I'll bring it up after I was just
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: golfer anyone that hasn't played at the sweat, like not
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: NFL season, when the FS is the slower time. I
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: love the sweat because Fridays the cut means pretty much everything.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Most slates depends on the course, like if it's a
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: minus three win, but when it's like minus eighteen, when
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: the course wins, you know on Friday whether you have
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: any shot at winning or you have no shot. In
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: cash games, you know like where you you're standing. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: I love the golf sweat for anyone that hasn't tried
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: it out.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Plus two. If you get the guys through, you gotta
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Like you said, I don't like the cut matters for sure.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Like you said, you're dead on cash or whatever. If
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: everyone has five or six or six or six and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you're sitting with a four, you're in big trouble. But
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: there was plenty of times last season where you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a six to six on a Saturday that's I had
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: one that was sitting like fourteen hundredth or something. It
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: was pretty down the board, and it's by Sunday though,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: end up finishing third or whatever. It's like that, it
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: can come back. As long as you got those six
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: through with some leverage in there, anything can happen. It's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it's the absolute best for that reason, and we don't
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: have football, and you work a full time job and
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: you got family and kids and whatever it might be,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: whatever your situation is out there, it's literally the best
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: because you can research it at night, get your lineup seen,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you got a few days, just like football, and then boom,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: put it in and sweat it out over.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: The weekend four day.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna add to that hoop.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I think I just sad it's good. I mean, like
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: they're unique, Like the PGI sweat is very unique, indifferent
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: than all the other sports. Met the same with UFC.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: The sweat and UFC is unique and different than all
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: the other sports like football, basketball, baseball. I mean, they're different,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: but they're the sweats to me, are kind of similar.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: But like PGA and UFC are just in a league
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: of their own in terms of the sweats.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never had a PGA sweat, but I sweat
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: with Tambo a couple of years back at a party.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: He needed some putts and I think it went into playoffs. Like, man,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine being in a situation like that. That
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: has to be I mean, we were having a lot
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: of fun. I mean, there was a lot of money
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: for it, but yeah, it can be a lot of the.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: It was the valves bar. The valves bar was Sam
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Burns in the playoff. Yep, and buried it for us.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: That was that was so huge. I was like, damn,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that was nice. Yeah, we've had a few sweats. I've
• 56:46
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• 56:49
  Speaker 2: The Nick Taylor in the playoff.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I needed him that one, and it was like, need
• 56:52
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• 56:54
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• 56:55
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• 56:58
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• 57:01
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• 57:02
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• 57:05
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• 57:06
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• 57:09
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• 57:12
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• 57:15
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• 57:17
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• 57:20
  Speaker 2: All Right, what do we got here? We got coming
• 57:22
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• 57:23
  Speaker 1: We got the Golden Ship at number forty five and
• 57:26
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• 57:30
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• 57:33
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• 57:37
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• 57:39
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• 57:42
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• 58:00
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• 58:02
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• 58:07
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• 58:10
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another aud This was what we ran all season.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: This is the second last week. We'll have the winner
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: here in just one second of the head to head,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: But just so you guys know, all the winners are
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: listed here. We're getting down to the end. We got
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: forty five, forty six, forty seven, and then next week
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: we'll have forty eight, forty nine fifty to round it out.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Those fifty will move on and play round. One week
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: seventeen of the NFL season on the Classic slate that Sunday.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: There is some movement on those games. I just pulled
• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:29
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• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: there will still be a pretty big Sunday slate there
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: that they'll be able to play off on.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, the banner's up there. Who beating aids
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: in Week one.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: We're gonna find out who we can play today, but
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it will be twenty thousand to first, ten thousand cash
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: to second, five thousand cash to third. All three of
• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Package. Fourth twenty five fifteen, one thousand, is six
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: through tenth, and then everybody else will get three hundred dollars.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: But Round one will be.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Week seventeen, where the top fifty that got the Golden
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: shippets will play off. The top ten we'll move on
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: to Week one of the playoffs will skip Week eighteen
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: and then playoff for these prizes. We'll have some fun
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: with that stuff along the way as well. So let's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: bring it up here. We've got Hoop, you're you're what
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: twelve and two?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's been a victorious season. I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: wish I wish I played more had to head in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: fifty to fifties this poeason, I will say that, Yeah,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: we might have to join title, get back into the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: back into the streets.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: You know, the second you finally make the switch, get
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: three in a row, I'm going to hit the nutt
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: It could be like the big playoff at the end,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: we get Hoops record against Title and we get like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a fuss.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Me this year.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: We have we'd be adding the name to that banner
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: at the bottom.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Well, no, let's not go that far, and you would
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: have crushed me so far and not not he will
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: beat me if we do it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, what we always say about all those weeks title,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: they don't matter, right, it don't matter exactly.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I'll take my exactly.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: You're facing off the winner number forty five of fifty
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: on the season. Who will face off against Hoop and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: the bonus game this week for the head to head.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Those are all listed on ship at games dot com,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: but he will play Hoop and ahead head for an
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: additional two point fifty on top of the guaranteed three
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars the guaranteed free month of Ultimate. The winner
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: is we got some names there could be common. Hunter Thompson,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Hunter five to one something something at something dot com.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: So Hunter Thompson, though, we'll reach out so you'll get
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: the email directly and know it's you. But Hunter Thompson
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: is the winner of Golden Ship at number forty five,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: So congrats to you. Any words of encouragement, Hoopy, you
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: think this is the one.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I would have like an intimidating name, I would say.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Hunter Thompson strikes me as like probably a strong, tough gentleman.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe I'm a little nervous.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: This week he goes from hunter to Hoop, going to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the hunted and he takes him down, and he goes
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: to twelve and three. So Hunter Thompson is the winner
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: of Golden Ship at number forty five and the winner
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: of Goldenship at number forty six, which is the share ship.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: It is a three hundred and thirty three dollars wildcat
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: ticket this week that we'll be playing off for two
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: The winner is very common names.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: There's not too many names as common as this outside
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: of maybe like John Smith but the winner Bill Wife.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: But the email not as common.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: We got Bubba M and change on the email at
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: something dot com. We'll send out the email directly us
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: to want to put their full email up there.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: But congrats to Bill White. So there could be like seven.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Of these, but we'll get it. We'll get it to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the right one to make sure it gets in there.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I will say that just made me think of something.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Did either of you guys see the Dallas Maverick's like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: team launch video this week where they're using the government
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: names the girls going around.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: She's like whatever their real name is?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: She's like Anthony something something, Davis great practice, and he's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: like what. He turns around, like you calling him my
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: government name? And then she just keeps hitting up everyone
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: on the team. Some guys weren't having it, but it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: was hilarious.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Not them, but a different team doing that a couple
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: of weeks back, and I laughed because the reactions were priceless.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Who was the character in that one show, the drug
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: show where the teacher it's a very common TV It
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: wasn't Walter Walter Walter White, Walter White. I was thinking
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: William White.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: Even I knew that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Look at that, I got the show guy, the TV
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: guy titles pretending like he's going on playing poker. He's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: just sitting in his car, just smashing all these TV shows.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: Watch show.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: That was good that it was probably my favorite.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: That was a really good one. Did you get caught
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: up on.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Land Man Hoop?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wait till the second season finishes.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I will say it's already getting better, like four episodes.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: I'm locked in on Tulsa King right now, and I've
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: been very I mean, I think this is a great show.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm through it all.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: That's a really good show.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: But I'm already caught up.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought that was so far, so good,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: or like half we're almost done with the second season.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I really like it, enjoying it all.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, we appreciate it.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, this is a question, like we we answered this
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: all the time because I'm not going to put his
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: full email on the things so people can email them,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: but we do happen to have everybody's email that's signed
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: up and is joined in the contest, and we email
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: them directly and let them know that they've won, and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: then they respond. If they're in discord, we tag them
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: and everything that goes with it. But it's been fully
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: tracked the whole way, no issues at all, so everybody's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: been very happy, outside.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Of those that didn't get the win yet.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: But still another week if you haven't got in on
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: it yet, So hopefully more come along the way and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: could be good to roll. But I really appreciate you guys. Yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun week ahead. Stay tuned tomorrow,
• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:01
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• 1:06:07
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• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the holiday season. You'll you'll see. I had to go
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: on and do all these silly videos. I put a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: little teaser out there yesterday, but I think you guys
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: will have a laugh. I will tell you who Hoop
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know what's in them yet. Wooly Worm did
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: make an appearance in the in the video, the statement
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: wooly Worm did did come into play and then that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: was one of the best all time so far.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Good luck all f you hoop from.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Christmas. I love it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I think Title would find a lot of movies hilarious
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: or really good or amazing. But it's just it's not
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: his thing right now, guys. It's not his it's not
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: his vibe at the moment. And that's okay too.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: So once once I kid arrived last casino poker time,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: he'll be He'll get locked into these shows. Man, that's
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: when that's when, that's when everything kind of changes. That's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: when things change. You're not gonna be able to say
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: no to movie movie night and TV show night like
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna have an excuse for that ship. So
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: you'll be locked in watching.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: But you know, I have my computer playing online poker.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: For sure, Yeah, guaranteed yes. And you can say you've
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: watched you can say you've watched everything. But then when
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: people quiz you on it be like I don't yeah,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: and then they call you I don't.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: I don't even know what to do.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: These are the joys of parenthood. Who you know these
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: all too well? Who Title will get there? I just
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: got a text for my wife. It says f FS,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: which we know what that stands for. Of course, as
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I'm cleaning the dishes. It's talk with my daughter. She
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: comes in and says, hey, Mom, this was at the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: front door and she's holding the damn box of her
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Christmas present that Amazon just sends out like as is.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: So this is gonna be awesome to go into.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: She knows exactly what she's getting for Christmas now, because
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: they don't even put that ship in the damn box now,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: just send it out, throw it to the door on.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: The front door. A lot of times the box ripped.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: They don't give a ship.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: And what's the temperature about you guys? I mean they're
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: probably freaking when they drop better.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's warm, to be honest, So I don't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: What's warm?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Woolli warm?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: No, let me see what what is the I gotta
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: do my celsiest thing here? One second? Two? It's a
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: fifty threes fahrenheit right now?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: That is yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not bad.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: We're in the thirties for sure. It's bad. Gross.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm maybe I'm doing bad Google math, but yeah,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's close to that. Let let's just say
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: that for that. But I mean it's funny. Well, you
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: know this will result into the funny part of it is.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: It will just result into spending more money on a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: different present now to be like, oh that was just
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: for you and we just bought that early. We know
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: you know you wanted to have that. So yeah, it's
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: it's about forty seven here right now fahrenheit.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: So that's a beautiful day, all right.
• 1:08:48
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