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8-17-26 Hour 2 - Broncos looking good on both sides of the ball/Kickers are a strange breed/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: Watch out for Prentice to fall back here. The handoff
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Speaker 2: is to practice and he is in for the touchdown.
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Speaker 2: A seven play drive results in a touchdown for the
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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 3: Jared, have you had a smoother first drive at the
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Speaker 3: football game ever in your life? It was?
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Speaker 4: It was smooth.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, good to get out there against somebody else and
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Speaker 3: kind of see what we got. And I think it
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Speaker 3: was six six plays in a touchdown, so it was good.
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Speaker 3: It was good to get back out there. Audio Broncos
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Speaker 3: Ramos Lotchad Brown filling in for Vic In most today,
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Speaker 3: so appreciate you being out here, Buddy. I'll say this,
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Speaker 3: three fullback runs in the first preseason game. How does
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Speaker 3: old school Chad Brown feel about? The fullback?
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Speaker 4: Keeps you honest, keeps the defense honest. I know it's
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Speaker 4: not the sexiest, the sexiest of plays. I know it's
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Speaker 4: a limited use during the season for the most part,
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Speaker 4: outside of certain situations. But again it keeps the defense honest.
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Speaker 4: If you force linebackers to respect the run and they
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Speaker 4: take a step forward, now play action pass opens up,
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Speaker 4: the intermedia part of the field opens up. So yeah,
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Speaker 4: look at it. Look at the play calling through the
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Speaker 4: lens of what you're forcing the defense to do. And
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Speaker 4: I know Sean Payton's got his own system, but to
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Speaker 4: go back to another Bronco coach, the Shanahan system. Part
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Speaker 4: of the genius of that system was knowing how defensive
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Speaker 4: players are coached and using their rules against them. And
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Speaker 4: so that's what things like full back runs do. Fullbacks
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Speaker 4: in the game immediately, I got to think run immediately.
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Speaker 4: My first thing is so as I see any hint
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Speaker 4: of run action, I stepped forward. Now there's so much
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Speaker 4: open behind me.
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Speaker 3: Who was the scariest full back you lined up against?
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Speaker 4: Oh Man Back in the day, there used to be
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Speaker 4: a couple Sam Gash Grate.
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Speaker 3: Full back member Sam Gash.
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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bill Lorenzo O'Neil. Of course, both both men who
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Speaker 4: were about five nine to ten, about two thirty had
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Speaker 4: they do you remember those old school They weren't neck rolls,
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Speaker 4: they were the neck board. Yes, the flat board. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that means that dude is about to put his face
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Speaker 4: on you as hard as he possibly can. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 4: experienced both of those men.
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Speaker 3: Here's one that I think, I'm almost positive you played
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Speaker 3: against both college and the pros. But I met him
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Speaker 3: once and I looked at just his neck and I go,
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Speaker 3: that guy hits Corey Schlessinger. Oh yeah, he had I
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Speaker 3: think every year lion. Yes, when he was in Detroit.
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Speaker 3: I think every year they would auction off his face
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Speaker 3: mask because he would break twenty a year, he said,
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Speaker 3: so they'd auction off for charity at the very end.
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Speaker 3: But that's one of those guys. You just look at
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Speaker 3: them like, oh, you're here to hit, gotcha.
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Speaker 4: I'm so glad we're smarter now. I used to take
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Speaker 4: pride and bending face mask and breaking helmets. Now I
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Speaker 4: recognize the absolute of that kind of mindset that I
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Speaker 4: used to have. And so I used to have a
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Speaker 4: collection of bent up face mask and cracked helmets I
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Speaker 4: kept at home. And then finally I was like, no,
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Speaker 4: that's that's just a record of my how dumb I
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Speaker 4: was back in the.
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Speaker 3: Day of bad decision making, and I.
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Speaker 4: Don't need any reminders anymore. As I started to lose
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Speaker 4: my cognitive ability of what I once took pride in.
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Speaker 3: Well, how about this, he said, great name, Sam Gash
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Speaker 3: Red Murdock's a great name. Yes, he's mister irrelevant and
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Speaker 3: but he was somebody that from the very beginning of camp.
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Speaker 3: He got some comments from Sean Payton that he said,
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Speaker 3: I gave him the green dot on scout team immediately,
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Speaker 3: like he's going to be the guy who runs it.
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Speaker 3: He's very smart. We saw him in action this first
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Speaker 3: time in the preseason game over the weekend. And if
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Speaker 3: there's any spot on the Broncos defense that you know,
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Speaker 3: they have all world talent at basically every level. Obviously
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Speaker 3: defensive line, take your pick as Zach Allen, Benito, whoever
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Speaker 3: corner you got certain it's generational safety. Hufong is an
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Speaker 3: all Pro linebacker. Is the only one that like look
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Speaker 3: Singleton good, Strnad good, but maybe not all pro level players.
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Speaker 3: You need to have some depth there, especially with Lavelle
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Speaker 3: Bailey who left that game with a broken leg. I
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Speaker 3: think Murdoch is a super intriguing guy heading into this
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Speaker 3: year for depth purposes at linebacker.
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't forget Torrion York as well. Oh, yeah, undrafted.
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Speaker 4: There was a nice history here in Denver of undrafted
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Speaker 4: free agents not only making the team but having roles
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Speaker 4: big time rules were becoming really good players. Chris Harris
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Speaker 4: Junior would be one of those guys. Rod Smith would
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Speaker 4: be one of those guys. Philip Lindsay, Yeah, Philip Lindsay
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Speaker 4: would be one of those guys. So lots of Bronco
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Speaker 4: greats have come into the undrafted, and I think both
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Speaker 4: those guys, mister Irrelevant and an undrafted free agent have
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Speaker 4: a chance to carve out a role in that linebacker
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Speaker 4: room I called Gosh. The last three or four years,
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Speaker 4: I had at least two text A and M games
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Speaker 4: and sometimes three in a single season, so I've seen
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Speaker 4: a ton of toryon York. He's undersized, that's why he
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Speaker 4: went undrafted, but from a playmaking ability and a conference
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Speaker 4: as difficult as the SEC, the game was never too
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Speaker 4: big for him. He was always one of the most
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Speaker 4: dynamic defensive players on the field, no matter who tax
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Speaker 4: A and M was playing, and then for Red Murdoch. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: as a former linebacker, I keep track of linebackers, so
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Speaker 4: I know a guy from University of Buffalo wasn't a
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Speaker 4: lot of people's radar, But I knew that kid could play.
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Speaker 4: I knew he had seventeen force fumbles, an all time
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Speaker 4: INTAA record. I saw where he punched one out here
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Speaker 4: last week during practice. I had a chance at the
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl to sit down with two of my former
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Speaker 4: linebacker coaches and we discussed linebacker play in the NFL
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Speaker 4: and how things have evolved. The thing that both of
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Speaker 4: them mentioned a number of times was ball production. If
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Speaker 4: you can make a hundred tackles, that's great, But I
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Speaker 4: can get a lot of guys who can make one
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Speaker 4: hundred tackles. Do you have ball production? And one of
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Speaker 4: these guys is the linebacker coach with San Francisco, So
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Speaker 4: he's got Fred Warner one of the best ball production
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Speaker 4: linebackers in the league. Whether it's tip passes that end drives,
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Speaker 4: whether it's interceptions, whether it's forcing fumbles orcovering fumbles. So
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Speaker 4: your ability to as a linebacker not just to tackle
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Speaker 4: somebody on first and second down, but certain opportunities across
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Speaker 4: the game, across the season, find ways to get the
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Speaker 4: ball for your offense. That's valued more than ever it
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Speaker 4: has been, and it's recognized and there's actually stats now
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Speaker 4: that linebacker coaches keep on that. So Red Murdoch fits
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Speaker 4: now into what the NFL is asking their linebackers to do.
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Speaker 4: A Number one, I think he absolutely makes the team.
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Speaker 4: Number two. I think both he and York will have
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Speaker 4: a role this season. Singleton, that's gotten better in coverage,
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Speaker 4: still leaves something to be desired. Stra Nad's not quite
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Speaker 4: beefy enough. If somebody decides we want to run the
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Speaker 4: ball forty times against his Broncos defense, I'm not sure
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Speaker 4: if he can withstand that kind of gauntlet. Yeah, so
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Speaker 4: they're gonna need those younger guys to step up and
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Speaker 4: play roles this year.
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Speaker 3: There's another guy that has sort of been this X factor. Yes,
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Speaker 3: an unknown that every time that he's healthy and talked about,
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Speaker 3: the coaches love him. Drew Sanders, who's six foot five,
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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty pounds. He was drafted in the
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Speaker 3: third round three years ago, but suffered injury after injury.
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Speaker 3: He gets a sack in this preseason game, and I
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Speaker 3: just want to see, can you give me like two
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Speaker 3: months of healthy football from Drew Sanders. I want to
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Speaker 3: know if this guy can play. All I've heard is
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Speaker 3: that he can, and you see the athlete that he is.
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Speaker 3: He's incredibly fast for being six five to two hundred
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Speaker 3: and thirty pounds. I just want to see him healthy.
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Speaker 3: I want to see him do something productive because he
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Speaker 3: played I believe, in the playoff game last year. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and that was after he was hurt for most of
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Speaker 3: the Sea season, played like the last month of the year.
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Speaker 3: But he's an intriguing guy. He's huge.
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Speaker 4: If he can stay healthy, then his athletic skill set
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Speaker 4: demands that he, you know, have a role from game
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Speaker 4: in and game out. But not everyone has the healthy thing.
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Speaker 4: Not everyone is understands. Not that I don't think he understands,
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Speaker 4: it's from an understanding level, but what it takes to
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Speaker 4: be a pro. It's not about your athletic skill set.
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Speaker 4: It's about your ability to be available for your team.
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Speaker 4: The greatest ability is always going to be your availability.
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Speaker 4: He's not available, you can't help us. You can't help
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Speaker 4: us in the training room, we can't help us in
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Speaker 4: the way room. We need you to help us on
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Speaker 4: the football field. So for Drew Sanders, that's far out shouted.
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Speaker 4: His physical abilities and the tantalizing promise that he brings, well,
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Speaker 4: that's great, but you have not been available. So I mean,
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Speaker 4: at some point do the Broncos give up and go,
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Speaker 4: you know, hey, we tried our best here, but you're
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Speaker 4: just simply not available enough for us to keep trying
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Speaker 4: to give you a roster spot.
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Speaker 3: There is somebody that I think is primed for a
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Speaker 3: big step this year, and I think it comes a
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Speaker 3: perfect time. I don't know if you saw there was
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Speaker 3: a wave of suspensions that came over the weekend from
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Speaker 3: the NFL, and I was kind of looking like, is
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper on that list or not, because we don't
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Speaker 3: know what the status is with him. He's playing, he's practicing,
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Speaker 3: he's doing all these different things well, and he did
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Speaker 3: because he's a good player. I mean, he's got I
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Speaker 3: think twenty is it twenty seven sacks of the last
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Speaker 3: three years or something like that. He's really really good,
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Speaker 3: especially opposite of Nick Benito. But the question is if
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Speaker 3: he does face some sort of discipline, who steps into
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Speaker 3: that role? And to me, Jonah Ellis is somebody that's
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Speaker 3: been steadily rising over the last couple of years. And
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Speaker 3: if he is for disciplinary reasons or even not, let's
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Speaker 3: say nothing happens with Jonathan Cooper He's going to have
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Speaker 3: a rotated football family, that Ellis family. You know, it
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Speaker 3: comes from a long line. That's a good football family,
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Speaker 3: that el family.
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Speaker 4: Putting it down. Dad's a coach at Utah right now.
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Speaker 3: Yes he is. He seems to be primed for a
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Speaker 3: big jump this year.
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Speaker 4: I think him and Kee Robinson will play big roles.
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Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Cooper will be suspended. I think he
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Speaker 4: will miss some time, particularly because of the second incident
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Speaker 4: with Jonathan Cooper. Yes, the first one, okay, all right, well,
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Speaker 4: maybe miscommunication, a little domestic dispute, but the fact that
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Speaker 4: you went there after you were told no contact.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a pretty basic yeah, like just don't
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Speaker 3: do it, like you know what I mean, Just don't
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Speaker 3: do it. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that will handle itself. But I'm happy that
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Speaker 4: the Bronx are still giving him opportunity get on the field,
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Speaker 4: get some football under his belt before the suspension happens.
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Speaker 4: But you already rotate your past rushers pretty frequently on
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Speaker 4: this football team. Yeah, and I think there's probably gonna
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Speaker 4: even be more of a rotation early this season. Because
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Speaker 4: you alluded to the five hundred yards in the game
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Speaker 4: against Buffalo, the defense kind of start to wear it down.
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Speaker 4: It did, and some of your best players, Nick Bonito
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Speaker 4: is not the most thickly built of men, and his
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Speaker 4: game is speed and explosion. And having been one of
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Speaker 4: those type of linebackers, yeah, your body as the season
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Speaker 4: goes along is just not as fresh and as explosive
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Speaker 4: as it once was. And if you win with explosion
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Speaker 4: rather than pure power, well now you're not as effective
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Sure, we need you to be your best,
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Speaker 4: So I would assume there's already gonna be a plan
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Speaker 4: for increased rotation to begin with. But with Jonathan Cooper
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Speaker 4: missing time, Ellis and Q Robinson will certainly play bigger
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Speaker 4: roles this year.
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Speaker 3: Just got this from Jesse. So we told you guys
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Speaker 3: we're having maybe some connection issues because they think that's
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Speaker 3: some of the weather stuff over the weekend mess with it.
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Speaker 3: So this is coming for the Broncos, right Jesse. Due
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Speaker 3: to damage from this weekend storms, the bleachers for the
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Speaker 3: fans are unsafe in today's Broncos practice is now closed
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Speaker 3: to the public. So if you guys had tickets to
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Speaker 3: come out here, very sorry. We see they've got some
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Speaker 3: construction equipment fixing things over in that bleacher area, but
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Speaker 3: something with the storms is now they've deemed the bleachers
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Speaker 3: unsafe for today. So if you had tickets, sorry, close
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Speaker 3: to the public now for Broncos practice three zero three
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Speaker 3: five four nine two five. Chad Brown filling in for
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Speaker 3: vic In Most today.
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Speaker 4: Back after this, Oh, Classic track.
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Speaker 3: Classic Track is right back out here Broncos Park. All
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Speaker 3: training camp coverage brought to you by Ramos Law. Chad
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Speaker 3: Brown filling in for vic In Most today. So she
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Speaker 3: had some news over the weekend. Von Miller has decided
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Speaker 3: he's putting away his boombox and trench coat from John Cusack.
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Speaker 3: Say anything movie I see. He's stood outside of the
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Speaker 3: Broncos facility for seemingly three straight years. Say hi to
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Speaker 3: our leaf blower, who's always here?
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Speaker 5: This time that's probably the loudest it's been off camp.
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Speaker 5: How close is that, son of a gun?
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Speaker 3: It's very loud. It is very close. But Von Miller
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Speaker 3: has been hanging outside the Bronco facility for three years
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Speaker 3: saying please take me back, and they haven't. And I
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Speaker 3: think it's because what's the role that he would have.
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Speaker 3: We actually had him on a couple of months ago.
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Speaker 3: He did the charity event with Vic jumped on the
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Speaker 3: show with us and I asked him about it. I
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Speaker 3: was like, I know, you want to get back with
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Speaker 3: the Broncos. What do you see your role on this team?
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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, it's tricky because I want to play,
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I know they have a lot
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Speaker 3: of guys that are already playing at those positions. Now
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Speaker 3: he's still I think he had what nine sacks last year?
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Speaker 3: He did he's still productive. But he signs with the Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is his last year or whatever,
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Speaker 3: but this would be a nice little end cap, going
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Speaker 3: back home to Texas and playing for the Cowboys. But
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Speaker 3: what do you think of him going to Dallas.
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Speaker 4: Well De Soto High School, Texas guy. So certainly going
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Speaker 4: back home. But once you start thinking about a guy
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Speaker 4: who's not starting for you, then the conversation becomes what
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Speaker 4: does he do on special teams?
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Speaker 3: And he said on our show, I'm not playing special tapes.
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Speaker 4: See so for me at thirty seven years old, my
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Speaker 4: last year in the league with the Patriots, I played
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Speaker 4: special teams. Yeah, I ran down on kickoff at thirty
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Speaker 4: seven years old. And so we've all seen the kickoff
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Speaker 4: and we've probably seen some of those films where the
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Speaker 4: camera kind of goes down with the kickoff team.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 4: But before the kickoff starts, there's that moment where the
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Speaker 4: ref winds the clock and the kicker has his hands
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Speaker 4: up and he's looking at it and he puts his
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Speaker 4: hand down and he goes to do it. I'm literally
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Speaker 4: there in my stance, and then the ref is doing
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Speaker 4: the countdown and the kicker puts his hands out. I'm thinking,
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Speaker 4: this is crazy, this is crazy. I'm thirty seven years old.
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Speaker 4: I'm right down on kickoff. This is crazy, this is crazy.
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Speaker 4: And the kicker kicked the ball and I'm literally saying
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Speaker 4: this is crazy. At the top of my lungs is
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Speaker 4: I'm running down the football field. Oh that's great. But
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Speaker 4: then I made the tackle and I got up and
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Speaker 4: said that was crazy, you know. And von Miller's denying
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Speaker 4: himself the pleasure put it down on kickoffs as he's
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Speaker 4: thirty seven years old. Now he's got a skill set
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Speaker 4: that at thirty seven that I did not I no
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Speaker 4: longer possess, and that was the ability to rush at quarterbacks.
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Speaker 4: So if he can be a contributor to that room,
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Speaker 4: we already talked about that position rotates quite a bit, yep.
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Speaker 4: But to have a guy who's on the roster as
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Speaker 4: a backup and doesn't play special teams, well, then where
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Speaker 4: are the Cowboys going to get this other special teams
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Speaker 4: guy from right? And then if you have too many
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Speaker 4: of the wrong positions on special teams, your special teams suffer.
15:35
Speaker 4: I was a Seattle Seahawk with Dennis Rickson, and he
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Speaker 4: loved having like ten receivers up on game day, which
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Speaker 4: means we had receivers on punt team and punt return
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Speaker 4: and kickoff. Well, guess why we weren't very good because
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Speaker 4: there was a bunch of receivers out there. You want
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Speaker 4: a bunch of tight ends in linebackers and fullbacks on
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Speaker 4: those on those jobs. So if von Miller is not
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Speaker 4: going to do that, how the Cowboys going to fill
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Speaker 4: that special team's role? And I think that was a
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Speaker 4: factor why he never got resigned. Here. We got tremendous depth.
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Speaker 4: We got a lot of young guys we're developing. We
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Speaker 4: don't want to take reps away from them, and how
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Speaker 4: are you going to help us on special teams?
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Speaker 3: I think some of this too is you know Sean
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Speaker 3: Payton when he took over. You talked about that, You
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Speaker 3: talked about establishing a culture when we were talking about CEU, Right,
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton obviously did that, and I think it might
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Speaker 3: be the best thing that he's done with all the
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Speaker 3: great things that he's done since coming here. Hang on,
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Speaker 3: I'll give the leaf flower a second. It's going to
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Speaker 3: come right there we go. If you're looking at von Miller,
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Speaker 3: who was obviously somebody who was still productive and someone
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Speaker 3: that can still get after the quarterback, but it would
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Speaker 3: be situationally, he's not playing every down, He's coming in
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Speaker 3: as a specialist on third down. Whatever. Do you want?
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Speaker 3: The personality of a von Miller in the room as
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Speaker 3: somebody who is a rotational guy is something that I
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Speaker 3: think has always been the issue. Nobody questions, I von
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Speaker 3: can still play, he can. The numbers bear it out.
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Speaker 3: I think it's more. I mean, Sean Payton came in,
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Speaker 3: he cut justin Simmons, who might be one of the
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Speaker 3: best leaders you could have asked for within this locker
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Speaker 3: room over the years of bad for the Broncos. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he was the perfect shepherd of a team that was
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Speaker 3: in the worst era of Broncos football in recent memory.
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Speaker 4: That's mcmanuson that's it's.
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Speaker 3: Like he's like, I'm going to be the sole voice.
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Speaker 3: Going back to what he said during halftime where it's
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Speaker 3: like a lot of fans are dressed as empty seats,
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Speaker 3: He's like, I'll be the one who does this stuff.
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Speaker 3: I don't want anybody else speaking in that way. And
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Speaker 3: if you think about it, one of the only holdovers
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Speaker 3: from that team when he first took over, it's like
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Speaker 3: Garrett Bowles has been like the only guy that's kind
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Speaker 3: of stuck through this and it's because he's a franchise
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Speaker 3: left tackle and you can't just replace that with people.
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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of with Vaughn and here
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Speaker 3: was do I want somebody with this much of a
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Speaker 3: personality and voice if he's not going to be one
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Speaker 3: of the guys on the team.
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Speaker 4: Even if he wasn't one of the guys I think
18:09
Speaker 4: for Sean Payton, who's off the Bill Parcells tree, you
18:14
Speaker 4: you want some personality, but it can't be too big.
18:17
Speaker 4: You can't overshadow what we're trying to do. Your your
18:20
Speaker 4: leadership style needs to fit within what I'm hoping to accomplish.
18:25
Speaker 4: And for go back to Brandon McManus. Yeah, you're you're
18:28
Speaker 4: the kicker, but you're also in the union rep. And
18:30
Speaker 4: then you guys told on us, right, And while that's
18:36
Speaker 4: your job as a union rep. Hey, I'm trying to
18:39
Speaker 4: come in and I'm trying to bring a whole new philosophy.
18:41
Speaker 4: You guys are coming off Nathaniel Hackett, where you didn't
18:43
Speaker 4: tackle at all during training camp. You barely didn't any
18:46
Speaker 4: full padded work. I need to introduce toughness. I need
18:49
Speaker 4: to introduce a new mindset. And if we got somebody
18:51
Speaker 4: who's ever thinking about contacting the union about how long
18:56
Speaker 4: or how we're doing things, you gotta go, man, find
19:00
Speaker 4: another kicker. Yep, I can find another guy.
19:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, And well, LUTs. By the way we talk about it,
19:05
Speaker 3: I know that there's this big thing with you guys,
19:07
Speaker 3: and and I want to mean you guys position players
19:12
Speaker 3: and specialists. The specialists are the people in this one
19:19
Speaker 3: that it's they don't do that their training campus cushy.
19:22
Speaker 3: They kick a ball for a little bit and they
19:24
Speaker 3: sit down and go off to the side whatever. It
19:27
Speaker 3: is funny how much kickers are tied into the legacies
19:33
Speaker 3: of big time quarterbacks. I was just thinking about this
19:36
Speaker 3: with Vinitari when he was doing his Hall of Fame speech,
19:40
Speaker 3: and I go, if the Patriots had a bad kicker.
19:45
Speaker 3: In some ways, the kickers are responsible for winning super
19:49
Speaker 3: Bowls in playoff games in a way that if they
19:52
Speaker 3: stink and they miss. Now, Tom Brady doesn't have six rings,
19:55
Speaker 3: maybe he has four or three, which is a lot still,
19:58
Speaker 3: but kickers like I'm happy to will lots here. He's
20:00
Speaker 3: a good kicker. He's someone you can trust.
20:03
Speaker 4: Having played both with Tom Brady and Adam vanentiy on
20:06
Speaker 4: that Patriots team, the confidence we had not only is
20:09
Speaker 4: Tom gonna get us in a good spot, then Adam
20:12
Speaker 4: is going to make the kick. And so whether you know,
20:14
Speaker 4: I wasn't on the team when they had the Raiders
20:17
Speaker 4: kicking the snow to go on to their first Super Bowl,
20:21
Speaker 4: that Super Bowl win against the Rams with that last
20:24
Speaker 4: minute you'll go by Adam vanent Terry. I wasn't on
20:26
Speaker 4: those teams, but that experience echoed throughout the facility when
20:31
Speaker 4: I was there, and certainly Adam and Tom combined to
20:34
Speaker 4: win games. Tom gets him in the right spot, Adam
20:37
Speaker 4: kicks it through, we win the game. We walk off
20:39
Speaker 4: the field winners in a three point victory. Yes, you
20:44
Speaker 4: would not recognize Tom Brady in the same way without
20:48
Speaker 4: the contributions of Adam vanent Terry.
20:50
Speaker 3: It's just funny. Like the Mosher, we had a discussion.
20:54
Speaker 3: Moser thinks the backup quarterback is more important to a
20:57
Speaker 3: roster than a kicker. Is There's no, no, no, that's no.
21:02
Speaker 4: As much as we joke about kickers. And I've had
21:05
Speaker 4: kicker teammates who went on and I've had one teammate
21:08
Speaker 4: who got his real estate license during the season because
21:13
Speaker 4: that's how much free time he had. I had another
21:16
Speaker 4: kicker who finished his law degree. My nephew just spent
21:21
Speaker 4: like the last two months locked in a room studying
21:25
Speaker 4: for the bar. This guy was playing professional football and
21:29
Speaker 4: studying for the bar and passed it on his first try.
21:33
Speaker 4: That's how much time he had every single day as
21:35
Speaker 4: a professional kicker. So that's where the jokes come from,
21:39
Speaker 4: because you see that. You go, you leave your position
21:42
Speaker 4: meeting and you run into the locker room to grab
21:44
Speaker 4: something before you run into your next meeting, and you
21:47
Speaker 4: see the specialist, the kickers and the punters. They're playing
21:51
Speaker 4: some weird version of Hackey sack or they're trying to
21:54
Speaker 4: make the world's biggest tape ball. They've got all the
21:57
Speaker 4: games because they got to fill all their time. Adam
22:00
Speaker 4: Vanity loved to watch very gory hunting videos.
22:07
Speaker 3: That was his thing, Like that was his free time,
22:10
Speaker 3: or that got him ready for a game.
22:12
Speaker 4: Or like he would walk past his locker and he
22:14
Speaker 4: would have his laptop in his lap and I'm like,
22:17
Speaker 4: what are you watching? And he would show me the
22:18
Speaker 4: cover of the DVD because it's how long ago this
22:21
Speaker 4: was when there was still DVDs, you know, and it
22:23
Speaker 4: would be you know, extreme Safari gore and it's like
22:28
Speaker 4: people killing giraffes and lions. Like I'm an animal guy,
22:34
Speaker 4: but on the different side of it, animal breeding, animal care,
22:39
Speaker 4: animal maintenance, love of animals. Adam was a hunter, so
22:43
Speaker 4: we were at odds a bit in the Patriots locker room.
22:46
Speaker 3: That is unbelievable actually, that the kickers watching gory safari
22:53
Speaker 3: videos and that's how he spends you know what.
22:56
Speaker 4: And then you got three lockers away the one of
22:59
Speaker 4: the minebackers. It's like, huh, I wonder how I can
23:02
Speaker 4: get more production from my green Tree monitors. I had
23:06
Speaker 4: twelve babies last year. I like to do twenty this year,
23:09
Speaker 4: complete opposite sides of it.
23:11
Speaker 3: Okay, just while we're on the subject, you gotta tell
23:14
Speaker 3: this story because he told me this either before the
23:16
Speaker 3: show or during the break, that you were a pro
23:20
Speaker 3: bowler the year. Because I've asked you or I asked
23:24
Speaker 3: you the question of having a child during the season
23:28
Speaker 3: and how that affects you know, you're still getting up
23:33
Speaker 3: with the kid occasionally in the middle of the night.
23:35
Speaker 3: How does that affect the way that you go about preparation,
23:40
Speaker 3: how your body feels, all this stuff. You said you
23:42
Speaker 3: made the Pro Bowl in the toughest parenting year that
23:46
Speaker 3: you had.
23:47
Speaker 4: What happened again, My wife had some complications with our
23:51
Speaker 4: second child, and so she stayed back here in Colorado
23:55
Speaker 4: when I went to Seattle. At some point I was like,
23:57
Speaker 4: you guys got to come out here with me. We
23:58
Speaker 4: got to figure this out. So we end up high
24:00
Speaker 4: and a nanny. But then nanny was already in school,
24:03
Speaker 4: and so she's like, I can adjust my schedule while
24:05
Speaker 4: I only be gone two nights of the week. It's like, okay,
24:09
Speaker 4: what nights are those going to be? Well, I'll be
24:12
Speaker 4: gone Monday night and Tuesday night, Okay, And so my
24:18
Speaker 4: wife could not wake up in the middle of the
24:20
Speaker 4: night to do these feedings because she wasn't allowed to
24:22
Speaker 4: pick up anything heavier than ten pounds. My son got
24:25
Speaker 4: my janes heavier than ten pounds. Yeah, so I had
24:28
Speaker 4: to do the night feedings on Monday night and Tuesday night,
24:31
Speaker 4: and so Tuesday was a day off. So not so
24:33
Speaker 4: terrible there, but Wednesday is the toughest practice of the week,
24:36
Speaker 4: and so sometimes you would play on a Sunday night
24:39
Speaker 4: until you'd be trying to catch up on sleep. So
24:41
Speaker 4: it was very difficult, trying season for me. And so
24:45
Speaker 4: I made the Pro Bowl that year. To you to
24:47
Speaker 4: your point during the story here, and about halftime of
24:50
Speaker 4: that Pro Bowl, that was it for me. I was done.
24:54
Speaker 4: I had played all the football my body would allow
24:56
Speaker 4: me to play. I was just too wiped out from
24:59
Speaker 4: this incredibly difficult football season and child rearing season where
25:05
Speaker 4: I was having to do all these you know jobs
25:07
Speaker 4: at a normal situation, normal player in the season would
25:11
Speaker 4: not be doing special circumstances. I stepped up as a dad.
25:15
Speaker 4: I did what I had to do for my family.
25:18
Speaker 4: He was a Pro bowler, but I still, you know,
25:21
Speaker 4: crashed out halftime of the Pro Bowl.
25:23
Speaker 3: So who was just overpowered.
25:27
Speaker 4: Stuff?
25:27
Speaker 3: Who was the Who was your coach during that Pro Bowl?
25:31
Speaker 4: I think it was Tom Coughlin was the head coach,
25:34
Speaker 4: which if you make the Pro Bowl, you don't want
25:37
Speaker 4: Tom Coughlin as your coach.
25:39
Speaker 3: It was I don't need I need, I don't need
25:41
Speaker 3: a hard ass d in the Pro Bowl.
25:42
Speaker 4: It was ridiculous.
25:44
Speaker 3: So he still did that during the Pro Bowl.
25:46
Speaker 4: He still want everybody to be five minutes early. And
25:49
Speaker 4: Junior Seau was just such a rebel. So we we
25:53
Speaker 4: had one practice and Junior kept stressing to Tom, hey,
25:57
Speaker 4: we need to be done by this time. And so
25:59
Speaker 4: at at some point Junior starts just yelling tea time,
26:03
Speaker 4: tea time. And it was only my second or third
26:07
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl at this point, Junior was probably on his
26:08
Speaker 4: eighth or ninth, so he has a Pro Bowl vet.
26:10
Speaker 4: So he's yelling at coach. So he drops back to
26:14
Speaker 4: cover somebody during practice, catches interception returns, it, runs through
26:21
Speaker 4: the defense, runs through the offense, runs past the coaches,
26:25
Speaker 4: throws the ball in the air and says, I told
26:27
Speaker 4: you guys out at tea time and runs off the field.
26:31
Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's how you endo practice at the
26:33
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl.
26:34
Speaker 3: Oh, that's great.
26:36
Speaker 4: Coughlin was upset. He threatened to bench junior for the
26:40
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. Yes, so I had three Pro Bowls. Tom
26:44
Speaker 4: Coughlin was my coach twice.
26:46
Speaker 3: Wow.
26:47
Speaker 4: That was like, dude, you're robbing me in my Pro
26:49
Speaker 4: Bowl experience. It's supposed to be so much more fun.
26:51
Speaker 1: This was.
26:54
Speaker 4: Old school Pro Bowl. It's supposed to be you know, lighter.
26:57
Speaker 4: We're still going to play football game back in the day,
27:00
Speaker 4: but at least let's have some fun.
27:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, you earn it's it's a vacation ish vacation. I
27:07
Speaker 3: couldn't imagine that if you're because I've done these. I
27:10
Speaker 3: don't know if you've My wife has these work trips sometimes,
27:13
Speaker 3: and they are like we went to Mexico for like
27:19
Speaker 3: five or six straight years, so you hit the sales
27:21
Speaker 3: number for my wife, you go to Mexico, you hang out,
27:23
Speaker 3: and I go, is this like a work trip? She goes, no,
27:26
Speaker 3: this is this is all fun. It's like, thank God,
27:28
Speaker 3: because one of those if you go on a work
27:29
Speaker 3: trip and then it's like, hey, we're in Cancun, We're
27:32
Speaker 3: gonna spend eight hours at the business center and It's like,
27:34
Speaker 3: that's not what we're here for. Nobody's here for this.
27:37
Speaker 4: I love the subsidized trip.
27:40
Speaker 3: Oh not look better than a normal you know, whatever
27:44
Speaker 3: your day to day situation is, for sure, But I'm
27:47
Speaker 3: just saying, if you're going to Mexico, I got I
27:49
Speaker 3: got to Mexico out.
27:50
Speaker 4: My wife has started to travel with me to my
27:52
Speaker 4: college games. It's interesting, though, she's not going to Wisconsin.
27:56
Speaker 4: You know, I got USC twice and she's going to USC.
27:58
Speaker 5: Oh.
27:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, we call that the Vic Bombardi plan. That's what
28:01
Speaker 3: he does for the Nuggets games.
28:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know we're going We're going to Stanford. Oh
28:04
Speaker 4: can we fly in the San Francisco and get some
28:06
Speaker 4: food at our favorite restaurant? Of course we can't. Yeah,
28:09
Speaker 4: you come up with me Wisconsin, Iowa. No, I'm gonna
28:12
Speaker 4: sit those out. It's like, oh, of course you are.
28:14
Speaker 3: The Nuggets schedulers was released last week and Vic goes,
28:18
Speaker 3: I'm going on four road trips. What do you guys think?
28:20
Speaker 3: And me and Moser in ten seconds nailed them. Or like,
28:22
Speaker 3: you're going to Miami, yep, You're going to Los Angeles, yep,
28:25
Speaker 3: You're going to Philly to watch lebron and it was
28:27
Speaker 3: one other one. It was like Orlando in January and
28:30
Speaker 3: he goes. How did you guys know that he goes
28:33
Speaker 3: cause you just like warm. We just looked at warm
28:36
Speaker 3: and that was where you were gonna go. We all
28:37
Speaker 3: knew it.
28:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't He's not going to Milwaukee.
28:40
Speaker 3: No, no, you aren't catching him dead in Minnesota. He's
28:43
Speaker 3: not going to minneapolisans Yeah. No, uh three oh three, five,
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29:37
Speaker 3: There is a problem. What they said was due to
29:40
Speaker 3: damage from this weekend storms, the bleachers for fans are
29:43
Speaker 3: unsafe in today's practice is now close to the public.
29:47
Speaker 3: That also applies to us Chad Brown, who's filling in
29:49
Speaker 3: for Vican Most today. Once our show's done at ten,
29:52
Speaker 3: they're gonna boot us out of here too. They're like,
29:54
Speaker 3: nobody gets to watch practice today, so bummer. I don't know.
29:59
Speaker 3: We're looking over here they have this look. I'm not
30:02
Speaker 3: a construction guy. It's a big truck over there. They
30:04
Speaker 3: get or looking at something on these bleachers. I don't
30:07
Speaker 3: know what would have happened with the storms.
30:10
Speaker 4: But I heard one of the other radio crews discussing
30:13
Speaker 4: some of these supports for the shade cover on top
30:16
Speaker 4: of the support being and they're checking those supports. It'd
30:19
Speaker 4: be terrible if that fell on some things.
30:21
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and they're acting out of an abundance of caution,
30:24
Speaker 3: which they should. But it stinks because I think there's
30:26
Speaker 3: only two more days that fans can come out, and
30:28
Speaker 3: that's Tomorrow and Wednesday. So today is closed to the
30:31
Speaker 3: public now. Our producer Steve Nelson Chad, he went to
30:36
Speaker 3: coors Field over the weekend and checked out some of
30:39
Speaker 3: the banana ball And you have older children, you said,
30:42
Speaker 3: thirty and twenty seven, correct. I have a four year
30:45
Speaker 3: old in an eight month old, and I saw a
30:49
Speaker 3: video from it. It was Kristen Bell, who is one
30:51
Speaker 3: of the voices in the movie Frozen. She's saying, well,
30:56
Speaker 3: I turned it on because I just didn't know what
30:58
Speaker 3: was happening. Why is Kristen Bell at coors Field? And
31:02
Speaker 3: then that it wasn't let it go, but it's one
31:04
Speaker 3: of the Frozen songs. My daughter sprinted from around the
31:07
Speaker 3: corner and took my fun from me, so she would
31:11
Speaker 3: have had a great time. Nelly, you went there, you
31:12
Speaker 3: said it was fun.
31:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I am now a Savannah banana convert.
31:17
Speaker 3: I just like that.
31:18
Speaker 5: They play around with the rules, they change the scoring.
31:23
Speaker 5: They actually incentivize you to do trick plays in the outfield.
31:27
Speaker 5: They keep track of how many trick plays each team
31:29
Speaker 5: does as the game goes on, and then at the
31:31
Speaker 5: end of the game, if a team is down by
31:33
Speaker 5: one point but they did more trick plays, then they
31:36
Speaker 5: can invoke a point, an extra point and then tie
31:39
Speaker 5: the game and forced extras. That's actually what happened to
31:41
Speaker 5: the Bananas. They had a one point lead at the
31:43
Speaker 5: end of the game, but the Indianapolis Clowns had the
31:45
Speaker 5: trick play tiebreaker. So just it's insanity, it's crazy.
31:50
Speaker 3: I loved it. Well that video. I don't know if
31:52
Speaker 3: you saw Chad so Christen bell is singing that one
31:54
Speaker 3: of these Banana guys starts doing a duet with her.
31:57
Speaker 3: Turns out he's also a Broadway Not only does he
32:02
Speaker 3: play baseball, he's a Broadway like singer.
32:05
Speaker 4: Okay, as a baseball guy. Yes, played baseball in college. Yes,
32:11
Speaker 4: what's your take on the rustlification of baseball, the sport
32:18
Speaker 4: that you loved, played passionate about, poured yourself into.
32:22
Speaker 3: I do love base Now they've made.
32:24
Speaker 4: This fake facade baseball esque trick play thing.
32:29
Speaker 3: You know what I'm for it. I look at it
32:31
Speaker 3: like the Hollland Globe trotters like. I don't think that
32:33
Speaker 3: offends NBA basketball people like it's its own little thing.
32:37
Speaker 3: It's fun, it's for kids.
32:39
Speaker 4: It offends me that Tom Brady, the goat of our game,
32:45
Speaker 4: does fake wrestling stuff. With the brothers.
32:50
Speaker 3: Yeah. See see it's but I'm like, Tom, you're the like,
32:55
Speaker 3: one of the most famous people on the planet. You
32:56
Speaker 3: don't need to do this to yourself.
32:58
Speaker 4: You need this, okay, But Kristen Bell, she's one of
33:01
Speaker 4: the most famous people on the planet, and she lowered
33:04
Speaker 4: yourself to Savannah Bananas level to play along with it.
33:08
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is obviously very obviously was not
33:13
Speaker 3: good enough to play professional baseball. But if one of
33:15
Speaker 3: these banana if the Bananas were around when I was
33:18
Speaker 3: playing in college and they said, do you want to
33:19
Speaker 3: do this, I'd be like one hundred. It looks like fun.
33:23
Speaker 3: I don't know, it looks like fun. It's not. But
33:25
Speaker 3: it's not baseball. It's it's it's a it's a show.
33:27
Speaker 3: It's a it's like the Globetrotters.
33:29
Speaker 4: It's fake.
33:30
Speaker 3: It's fake.
33:31
Speaker 4: Yes, it's ratification of baseball. Yeah, and that bothers me.
33:35
Speaker 3: I don't know baseball. There's a lot of purity around
33:38
Speaker 3: the baseball game too that people don't like. You know,
33:40
Speaker 3: It's why it takes them a million years to change
33:42
Speaker 3: one rule about something or institute of a pitchclock, Like
33:45
Speaker 3: I remember the pitch clock thing came out and all
33:47
Speaker 3: these baseball purists were saying, that's not the sport. Now
33:50
Speaker 3: know two and a half hour games sound a lot
33:52
Speaker 3: better than three and a half hour games. It has helped.
33:54
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
33:55
Speaker 3: It has helped U. Speaking of baseball, the Rockies, they
33:58
Speaker 3: win another so mission, not lose one hundred games this year.
34:05
Speaker 3: They're thirteen wins away from accomplishing that. I think they're
34:08
Speaker 3: gonna do it. The good news about the Rockies they
34:10
Speaker 3: have these young players. Zach Bean again has another great game.
34:13
Speaker 3: He's got a couple of homers since being called up.
34:16
Speaker 3: But I don't know how closely you follow the Rocks.
34:18
Speaker 3: I know it's not a lot of fun to watch
34:20
Speaker 3: a team lose a whole lot, but some fun young
34:23
Speaker 3: talent within the lineup. They don't have pitching still, but
34:27
Speaker 3: they wont another series. I don't know. I like him.
34:30
Speaker 4: Does the Pinner ownership change the trajectory of the Rockies?
34:36
Speaker 4: Obviously they've done. I can't think of one misstep that
34:40
Speaker 4: they've had other than giving Russell Wilson two hundred and
34:43
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars. But outside of that, yeah, it's not
34:45
Speaker 4: even my money. Right outside of that, I can't think
34:48
Speaker 4: of a way that their ownership has not stacked up
34:51
Speaker 4: with winning, being first class and doing the right thing.
34:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been so much opposite of.
34:57
Speaker 4: What the Rockies have been.
34:59
Speaker 3: True, here's what they don't know. So they're forty percent owners,
35:04
Speaker 3: obviously they can throw some some dollars towards them if
35:08
Speaker 3: they want to sign somebody or something like that. I
35:10
Speaker 3: don't know what their commitment to it is if they're
35:14
Speaker 3: not majority. Does that make sense? Like with the Broncos,
35:17
Speaker 3: they run the show, so they're willing to throw every
35:20
Speaker 3: dollar at it when you're a minority owner, I don't
35:22
Speaker 3: know how that works. I don't know if you feel
35:24
Speaker 3: the same way towards that team. You know what I'm saying.
35:27
Speaker 4: If you invested some money in something and had a
35:30
Speaker 4: chance to have a say so, wouldn't you have a
35:33
Speaker 4: say my money's involved, Whether you're a majority owner.
35:35
Speaker 3: Or not, do you have a say? Yes?
35:37
Speaker 4: Yes? Now you're buying a stock that's different. You're a
35:39
Speaker 4: silent investor. But you and some friends go in to
35:42
Speaker 4: put together a sports bar and somebody's like, well you've
35:45
Speaker 4: only got ten percent, I've got twenty. I don't want
35:47
Speaker 4: to hear from you. No, I still got something to say.
35:49
Speaker 4: This This drink mean you sucks. The pretzels are stale, man,
35:53
Speaker 4: Sure do it better.
35:54
Speaker 3: It's a good point, Yeah, I do think. Look, it
35:58
Speaker 3: won't hurt that's one thing.
36:00
Speaker 4: It won't hurt, well man, only because it's been so bad.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I will say that. When they made the hire
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Speaker 3: of this new GM Dee Podesta, he's so I'm sure
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Speaker 3: you know, he was the Jonah Hill's character and Moneyball
36:14
Speaker 3: that's who it's based off of. Right. He thinks differently,
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Speaker 3: and in one year I have seen the Rockies make
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Speaker 3: smarter in more intelligent moves than in the last like
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Speaker 3: three or four years combined. So I'm optimistic, I will say.
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Speaker 3: But still team's not great, you know, but Rockies are
36:35
Speaker 3: on the mission to not lose a hundred games and
36:37
Speaker 3: there are thirteen wins away from it. Now. A couple
36:40
Speaker 3: other things here. First of all, Nelly, you said he
36:41
Speaker 3: had a few go ahead. Oh.
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Speaker 5: By the way, I saw this clip going around Twitter
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Speaker 5: a few days ago, and I believe it's from a
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Speaker 5: few months ago. And this was Tom Brady talking on
36:53
Speaker 5: Shack's podcast, Because of course Shaq has a podcast. What
36:57
Speaker 5: hasn't he put his name on. It's called The Big Podcast.
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Speaker 5: And Tom Brady was chatting about in his playing days.
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Speaker 5: It was the year twenty ten, and he hit up
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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning and said, Hey, I'd love to come hang
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Speaker 5: out with you in Tennessee. We can train together, you know,
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Speaker 5: put our heads together during the off season. And Tom
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Speaker 5: Brady told this story about Peyton Manning's off season diet
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Speaker 5: a little bit different from Tom's.
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Speaker 6: I fly down to Tennessee Peyton and I spent like
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Speaker 6: all the time. We work out together, we play golf together,
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Speaker 6: we ride jet ski's together. His house in each of
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Speaker 6: course for eating meals. So he sits down for breakfast
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Speaker 6: and I'm like, hey, you know so and so is ready.
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Speaker 6: They coming to this old cabin, Miss Brady. What do
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Speaker 6: you want to eat? I'm like, I'll take you know,
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Speaker 6: oatmeal and you know, two scrambled eggs. And I said,
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Speaker 6: and they're like, Peyton, what do you want? He's like,
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Speaker 6: I want biscuits, gravy, three pancakes, six six bacons. I
37:50
Speaker 6: want three sausages.
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, you eat all that, you.
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Speaker 6: Know, And I was like the southern boy with all
37:57
Speaker 6: the good help and for the comfort food.
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Speaker 5: So when it came to off season regimen, were you
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Speaker 5: more of a Tom Brady diet or more of a
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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning diet guy.
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Speaker 4: I'm more of a Peyton Manning diet guy. You got
38:09
Speaker 4: to eat bacon to keep your joints lubricated. Everyone knows this. Yeah,
38:14
Speaker 4: of course, that's how you last a long time. You
38:17
Speaker 4: keep your joints well oiled.
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Speaker 3: Man. I always think it's funny to me, like Tom Brady,
38:21
Speaker 3: who's had his entire life regimented in that way, that
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Speaker 3: he just can't fathom somebody being as successful as Peyton
38:29
Speaker 3: Manning while just doing whatever he wanted to do, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. I've always thought though, like, if
38:36
Speaker 3: that's how you grew up, you ate all that, continue
38:39
Speaker 3: to do it. Your body's used to it at that point, right.
38:43
Speaker 4: The Peyton Manning Tom Brady thing is fascinating. Tom didn't
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Speaker 4: do commercials when he was playing, or if he did,
38:49
Speaker 4: he include his teammates in them. Yeah, Peyton was already
38:52
Speaker 4: the leading athletes you know, commercial guy while he was
38:56
Speaker 4: still playing.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
38:57
Speaker 4: But now Tom's jumped into the commercial side and okay,
39:02
Speaker 4: now you're but then you're doing wrestling stuff, and so
39:05
Speaker 4: it's like you've you've taken your freedom too far. I'm
39:08
Speaker 4: seeing clips of you solo on a yacht sunbathing. Peyton, Man,
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Speaker 4: he's not gonna do that, but he's gonna eat sausage
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Speaker 4: and gravy into your mind, Tom, That makes Peyton like somebody.
39:19
Speaker 4: I couldn't do that, but Peyton would never be solo
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Speaker 4: on a yacht sunbathing either.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know what's funny is it? So? I was
39:29
Speaker 3: watching TV there's a commercial that was Tom Brady on
39:32
Speaker 3: a Pizza Hut commercial, I think, and he goes, Tom
39:35
Speaker 3: Bratty doesn't eat Pizza Hut and.
39:37
Speaker 4: J Lo doesn't drive a Fiat. What are these people
39:40
Speaker 4: think when they pay these stars this money? That we're
39:42
Speaker 4: gonna believe this? Because Tom was doing Subway commercials too,
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Speaker 4: and he's he's gone on the record so many times
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Speaker 4: talking about his very restrictive diet. Yeah, so why would
39:52
Speaker 4: somebody give him money to promote a product that he
39:55
Speaker 4: clearly would not eat? And yes, show me a photo
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Speaker 4: of j Lo in.
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Speaker 3: A shack doing Buick commercials is the funniest.
40:02
Speaker 4: Thing Tiger Woods commercials? Yeah?
40:05
Speaker 3: Yes, So a couple more here Kevin Durant, who was
40:12
Speaker 3: always great for a quote, he said that winning an MVP,
40:17
Speaker 3: he thinks is better than winning a championship because he's
40:21
Speaker 3: done both. He did it obviously with the Golden State.
40:25
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Kevin Durant, and I just don't
40:27
Speaker 3: think people understand this about him. He said that the
40:31
Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy six ers roster right now, with Lebron and
40:34
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown and Embiid and Tyrese Maxey and all these
40:37
Speaker 3: different guys, is a better roster than what he had
40:40
Speaker 3: in Golden State, with him and Steph and Klay Thompson
40:43
Speaker 3: all them. And I still think it fundamentally shows why
40:49
Speaker 3: he can't put together a winning team on his own.
40:51
Speaker 3: Why he thought Kyrie and Harden and him were gonna work,
40:54
Speaker 3: or him and Booker and Beale in Phoenix. It's like, oh,
40:58
Speaker 3: you just think if you put a whole bunch of
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Speaker 3: talented guys together, that's just supposed to result in the championship.
41:03
Speaker 3: It's not how that works. You need to have some
41:06
Speaker 3: sort of team building aspect of this too, instead of
41:09
Speaker 3: just stacking talent together. Now it helps, I mean, I
41:12
Speaker 3: look at Philly's roster I'm like, oh, my god, that
41:14
Speaker 3: looks like an all Star team. But I'm still hesitant
41:17
Speaker 3: to just be like, oh, Philly's gonna win a championship
41:19
Speaker 3: now because of their talent they have on the roster.
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Speaker 4: Well, number one, it doesn't work that way. And then
41:24
Speaker 4: specifically to get to Kevin Durant, when you are a
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Speaker 4: scoring mercenary for hire and you're unwilling to bend what
41:33
Speaker 4: you do to the team's success, then that's the lens
41:36
Speaker 4: to which you look at life. Sure, hey, you are
41:38
Speaker 4: they gonna get me. I'm gonna do my you know,
41:40
Speaker 4: twenty seven points a game, it's gonna be great. I'm
41:43
Speaker 4: gonna shoot my my threes. I'm gonna, you know, do
41:46
Speaker 4: all the Kevin Durant stuff, not recognizing that sometimes you
41:49
Speaker 4: gotta bend these things to the team so the team
41:52
Speaker 4: can can do better. Love my former teammate Kevin Green
41:57
Speaker 4: rest in peace, one of the greatest linebackers one hundred
41:59
Speaker 4: and sixty as a linebacker, yes, all time linebacker sack record,
42:05
Speaker 4: But Kevin played left outside linebacker. He didn't even practice
42:11
Speaker 4: his drops going to the right because he knew he
42:14
Speaker 4: was only going to play this one position, and so
42:17
Speaker 4: while the rest of us are doing our drop drills.
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Speaker 4: Kevin's got to go over on the side because he's
42:22
Speaker 4: unwilling to do even entertaining dropping to the right. Hey,
42:27
Speaker 4: maybe it's an emergency. Maybe we just need you over
42:29
Speaker 4: here for whatever particular reason. I play left outside linebacker.
42:33
Speaker 4: I rushed the quarterback. This is all that I do. Great,
42:37
Speaker 4: he got him into the Hall of Fame versus me.
42:39
Speaker 4: I played inside, I played outside, I played up, I
42:41
Speaker 4: played down. I played all these different things, and therefore
42:43
Speaker 4: the coaches all my career asked me to do all
42:45
Speaker 4: these different things. There were two years in Seattle where
42:47
Speaker 4: I didn't rush the quarterback on third down. I played
42:51
Speaker 4: inside linebacker and covered tight ends thirty yards down the field.
42:55
Speaker 4: Was it the best use to me? I didn't think so.
42:57
Speaker 4: But that's what my team needed. Yeah. And so it's
42:59
Speaker 4: a different lens to which some of these guys view things.
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Speaker 4: So to hear Kevin Durant say the MVP was better
43:05
Speaker 4: than the championship, that speaks to the lens through which
43:08
Speaker 4: he views the game.
43:10
Speaker 3: He said, there's one a year. I don't give a
43:12
Speaker 3: bleep what nobody says. Rings are incredible. It's a great
43:14
Speaker 3: team accomplishment. But come on, everybody wants to be MVP.
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Speaker 4: He said, you can do both.
43:19
Speaker 3: You can do both.
43:20
Speaker 4: You can do both.
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Speaker 3: Yeah three zho three five oh four oh nine two
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Speaker 3: five that is oh by the way. More from Broncos
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