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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, April 2 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeffu Wars did you don't talk? What Jack Warris? Did
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Speaker 1: you Jaguars drive Time right and sex steps that days
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Speaker 1: it actually say Jaguars Drive Time starts right now? All right,
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Speaker 1: here we go. Does it look dry outside? Is it
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Speaker 1: look it's not raining anymore? Is it? Me? It looks
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Speaker 1: like it's not raining. It doesn't look very pleasant if
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Speaker 1: you ask me. That's the South Florida and you you
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Speaker 1: expected to be sunny in eighty right now, and it
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Speaker 1: will be at some point later in the week. But
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Speaker 1: now at least it's dry outside to drive safe. Everybody, Hello,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Jack's Drive Time. On a Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: The whole gang is here after a couple of the
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Speaker 1: lazy Tuesdays hanging in the rack getting up late, drinking coffee.
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Speaker 1: He said, he said, no a day it is? Is Is
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Speaker 1: that what you've been doing? I wasn't going to call
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Speaker 1: him out, and of course you have to, he said,
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Speaker 1: it's Monday, Monday anyway, So okay, Joe rested and ready. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: here we know in the day of the week. Here's
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Speaker 1: n Y here, Sean here, he is. Welcome back, thank you.
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Speaker 1: It's really great to be me. I mean to be here.
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Speaker 1: No bent the owner's meetings, Bennett, you know, doing some
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Speaker 1: family stuff. So it's great to be back on Jaguars draft.
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Speaker 1: So you said it's April. At least I know that
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Speaker 1: it is. We've got that thing going, got that figured out.
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Speaker 1: The draft is three weeks from and Thursday. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: here we go, big things, and you'll be going right
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Speaker 1: to the draft. I will be going to the draft.
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Speaker 1: It's in Vegas this year. Oh wait, that's next year.
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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that all over the place.
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Speaker 1: I might as well be all over the place. That
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Speaker 1: was me looking forward? Why don't and then we'll take
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Speaker 1: care of the draft. Okay, Nashville it is. Let's get
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Speaker 1: it a big thing, all right. Big thing one is
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Speaker 1: the ross spots are still remaining. But one spot is
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Speaker 1: still that we've been talking about for weeks now, and
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Speaker 1: that's the backup running spot. I caught up with Alfred
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Speaker 1: Blue yesterday talking about veteran presence in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the running back room and it looks
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Speaker 1: like it's on uh me and four Nette right now
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Speaker 1: and me being in the league five years, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm considered uh the big brother in the veteran in
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Speaker 1: the room for a nette and will else comes behind us?
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Speaker 1: Do you see it as an advantage? You playing in
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Speaker 1: the a f C South before, you're familiar somewhat with
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Speaker 1: this Jaguars team and used to it. Almost. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: I can say one thing bout the Jaguar They do
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Speaker 1: have a hellywood defense. So that's a good thing and
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be a part of it. So what
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Speaker 1: you've got now is you've got Dave Caldwell filling out
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Speaker 1: his roster um. By the way, Thomas Rowles and David
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Speaker 1: Williams might take exception to Blues comment that it's just
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Speaker 1: him and for that, there are four running backs now
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Speaker 1: in that room. Uh, and probably at least one or
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Speaker 1: two coming in the draft. H Josh Wells just walked
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Speaker 1: down the hallway. He's going to stay in with the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley just signed the other day, what last Friday.
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Speaker 1: So they're filling out the roster and as you look
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Speaker 1: at holes glaring holes on the roster um, they're limited, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, the tight end seems to be a whole still,
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Speaker 1: although they signed James of Shaughnessy and Jeff Swain. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, right, tackle seems to be something that's got
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Speaker 1: to fill in, But the roster itself has enough numbers
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Speaker 1: that you don't feel as if you have to go
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Speaker 1: crazy need on on draft weekend. Right, they're filling out
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Speaker 1: depth um, which is what you need to do considering
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Speaker 1: as of March thirteenth, especially on the offensive line, March
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Speaker 1: thirteenth being the league year free agency beginning, they had
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Speaker 1: barely enough to line up on the offensive line. So well,
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Speaker 1: when you saw what seven offensive linemen leave that, right,
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Speaker 1: you thought, wow, right, you have Wells back, shotley back.
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Speaker 1: That gets them back to where they feel good about
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Speaker 1: their reserves swing guys. If those guys are them, I
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Speaker 1: still think they have a whole of right tackle. I
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Speaker 1: still think they have a whole at tight end. And
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Speaker 1: it still feels to me like it would be a
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Speaker 1: surprise if that it's not the way they go in
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Speaker 1: the first two rounds of the draft. But there's also
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Speaker 1: that defensive line thing hanging out there, which we'll get
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Speaker 1: to in the next big Right, So you know, sticking
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Speaker 1: with the roster, you where else do you see that
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Speaker 1: the depth or the quality needs to be improved? I
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Speaker 1: guess you could say safety, since to Sean Gibson is
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Speaker 1: no longer here um and depending on how good you
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Speaker 1: feel about you know the why can't I think of
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Speaker 1: his name? The young man from Wisconsin, Leon Jacobs, who
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Speaker 1: you know was a starter at times last year. Maybe
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Speaker 1: linebacker needs another body or two at least on special teams. Well,
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Speaker 1: Jake Ryan and Leon Jacobs give them options around there.
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Speaker 1: Jake Ryan gives them one more guy in irritation you
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Speaker 1: can play. I think, yes, they addressed running back yesterday.
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Speaker 1: To me, I still think a glaring need for this
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Speaker 1: offense in the draft is going to be a running
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Speaker 1: back who can catch the ball out of without a
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Speaker 1: doubt backfield. Nick Foles needs that. Corey Grant I don't
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Speaker 1: see coming back at this point. So and even if
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Speaker 1: he does, he's not your every down received, not every
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Speaker 1: down that's the wrong word. But he's not your true
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Speaker 1: out of the backfield receiver as much as he is.
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Speaker 1: Let's use the speed. So we talked about that last year.
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Speaker 1: He's not really a running back, right, He's more of
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Speaker 1: an offensive playmaker, you know, to go back to the
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Speaker 1: Dunard Robinson phase. He's a weapon. Right when when he
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Speaker 1: had to play running back, you couldn't You couldn't hold
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Speaker 1: up right, So I think they need third running back.
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Speaker 1: They still need to say, but again, all those are
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Speaker 1: positions that you should be able to get outside of
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Speaker 1: that a premium pick range after the second round. So
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Speaker 1: they're in good shape on that front. It's they've done
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Speaker 1: a nice job in free agency after Nick Foles of
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Speaker 1: getting people who you feel like are reliable veterans, bargain
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Speaker 1: guys for lack of a better word. So they're there.
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Speaker 1: It still feels like they could use one more elemented receiver,
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Speaker 1: but I think they feel differently. The signing of Alfred Blue.
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Speaker 1: He was mentioning in the interview how he was his
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Speaker 1: running style was really similar to four nets, And it
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Speaker 1: seems like they're trying to make what Carlos Hide didn't
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Speaker 1: work work with Alfred Bloom and bringing that veteran presence
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Speaker 1: that room. And if you recall, I thought they needed
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Speaker 1: to do that last year because we know, Look, if
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Speaker 1: we didn't know starting that Leonardotte was not going to
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Speaker 1: stay healthy, we sure found it out quickly. There's no
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Speaker 1: reason to expect no matter how hard he's working out now,
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Speaker 1: how how smart he is with he's diet there's no
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Speaker 1: reason to expect that with his Earl Campbell like running
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Speaker 1: style that he's going to play sixteen games. So you've
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Speaker 1: got to have another big body. But as John mentioned,
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Speaker 1: that swing guy that for lack of a better name,
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Speaker 1: although I don't know that there's many better names, Darren Sprowles,
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Speaker 1: you know that that that widget kind of back that
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Speaker 1: could do just about everything, make a guy miss and
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Speaker 1: get up the field. Here's the question, are they two
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Speaker 1: back short right now still? Which I think there's a
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Speaker 1: case we made that they are. Well. Riddle me this,
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Speaker 1: is this still a run first team when you can
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Speaker 1: spend the money on the quarterback like they do, and
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Speaker 1: you bring in John d Philippo who was let go
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Speaker 1: from Minnesota because he wanted to throw the ball. By
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Speaker 1: the way, John d Philippo still wants to throw the ball,
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Speaker 1: Is there still a run first team? M not as
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Speaker 1: much as it was. I think there's going to be
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Speaker 1: a swinging of the pendulum back towards even But I
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Speaker 1: do think that considering what we saw of of for
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Speaker 1: Nette's injury situation in the last couple of years, if
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Speaker 1: he's out, I guess the question is do they feel
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Speaker 1: like they have to cover themselves for the possibility that
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Speaker 1: he's out for a stretch. Two years ago they had
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Speaker 1: that covered because you essentially had Chris Ivory yelled in
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Speaker 1: and Corey Grant, so he had three. Uh, perhaps they
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Speaker 1: feel that way about David William to Thomas Rawls that
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Speaker 1: maybe what they think that is is that a better
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Speaker 1: option than what they had last year with Tim Cook
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Speaker 1: and Uh, I'm john a blank, there was somebody else, so, uh,
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Speaker 1: it still wouldn't surprise me get from South Carolina if
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Speaker 1: two of the four running backs are still not on
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Speaker 1: the roster, meaning you draft them, well, Uh. Dane Brugler,
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Speaker 1: who writes for The Athletic, had an article this morning
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Speaker 1: and he said the sweet spot for the draft, in
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Speaker 1: his opinion, is the third round. He had a long
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Speaker 1: list of name running backs, guys, big school guys who
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Speaker 1: were very productive at places like Iowa State, Oklahoma, Houston,
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Speaker 1: who are out there on the board. So you know,
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Speaker 1: why not get to if you're still going to be
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Speaker 1: a run focused team. Absolutely to make sense. I would
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Speaker 1: think for sure undrafted free agency will bring a couple more,
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Speaker 1: right because that's a position where as we saw last
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Speaker 1: year one injury to four net all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: shakes up in you're looking at the depth, going, well,
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Speaker 1: where is it? All right? Onto the board, big thing too,
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Speaker 1: the board. We're looking at prospects here in the draft
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Speaker 1: from Pro Football Focus. We're looking at some charts here
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Speaker 1: that show the top twelve prospects that we see could
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Speaker 1: be realistic for the Jaguars to find. Let's start with
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Brian because it shows this graph that he's
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Speaker 1: the overall best prospects. I mean, that's what we talked
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Speaker 1: about all the time at the combine. All right, before
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Speaker 1: we do this real quick though, before we do this,
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Speaker 1: let's let's let's set this up. And what this is
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Speaker 1: is is we're looking at those guys that fit in
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Speaker 1: the top tent and there are guys who are climbing
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Speaker 1: the board right now. Quarterback Drew Lock, defensive tackle at
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Speaker 1: Oliver And so how does that push guys down? So
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Speaker 1: we just threw some names up, and here's why Murray
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Speaker 1: is there because from a grading perspective, that's kind of
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Speaker 1: a cool graph. It's called a radar graph or a
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Speaker 1: spider graph. The inside line, that gray line there is
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Speaker 1: the average of the quarterbacks available at the position and
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Speaker 1: this is according to Pro Football Focus. You can see
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Speaker 1: there that the green line is Murray's grade all along
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Speaker 1: the outside, and that's where you want to be. So
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Speaker 1: as we show you these, look in relation to where
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Speaker 1: the green line is exterior to the gray line. So
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Speaker 1: Murray's a guy that is rising up the board. But
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Speaker 1: let's throw up, um at Oliver, who you probably know
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Speaker 1: since most of our viewers follow this, you know, at
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Speaker 1: least on a tertiary level. Um, he had a great protect. Well,
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Speaker 1: when you read Pro Football Focus, you come across vocabulary.
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Speaker 1: I feel like I should use it, Tan Gentle another trying.
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Speaker 1: So there's at Oliver right and now all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden people are talking about Oliver being a and Aaron
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Speaker 1: Donald type of player and interior disruptive player. Now again
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Speaker 1: that's a that's the highest paid player on defense in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. So we'll see. But look at
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Speaker 1: his graph right there. You see how productive he is
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Speaker 1: in so many ways that Pro Football Focus grades players. Um,
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Speaker 1: I guess here's my thesis. If I'm going to stay
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Speaker 1: with the big words, my theory for you, and that
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Speaker 1: is is that there's going to be a really good
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Speaker 1: player pushed down the board to number seven for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Potentially a great player. It might not be a tight end,
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Speaker 1: it might not be a right tackle, it might be
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Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. Yes, sitting there at seven. Do you
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Speaker 1: take the great player where they had that graph that
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Speaker 1: is all green, or do you take a good player
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Speaker 1: that fits your need? Um I I did a mock
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Speaker 1: last night, and there's still sort of a no man's
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Speaker 1: land situation for the Jaguars with these they're outside the money.
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Speaker 1: Then I found one where the best available option on
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Speaker 1: defense was Rashan Gary of Michigan, which is a little
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Speaker 1: bit scary to me because he's he's a tight end,
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Speaker 1: I mean a tight end. He's strong side defensive tackle
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Speaker 1: type in the Clayss Campbell roll. And I wonder if
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Speaker 1: you draft that that high, not that you wouldn't draft
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Speaker 1: Claius that high, but he's a special version of that. Uh,
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Speaker 1: this one, I sort of couldn't pick that, and I
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Speaker 1: went ahead and picked a different position for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: in that scenario. I think in that scenario it was
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Speaker 1: down down between Taylor from Florida the offensive right tackle.
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Speaker 1: I went ahead and picked quinnin Williams because he had dropped,
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Speaker 1: who obviously is is a special level talent. But unless
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Speaker 1: a quarterback jumps up and I'm saying that Haskins would
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Speaker 1: slide in this scenario, and h Haskins the quarterback from
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Speaker 1: high State, I'm saying that he would slide in this scenario.
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Speaker 1: Unless somebody else jumps up past, you still could get
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Speaker 1: caught in no man's land a little bit. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: so the guy and Williams is the perfect example of
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Speaker 1: my theory that there's Williams, by most accounts, is the
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Speaker 1: second best player in this draft, the first being Nick
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Speaker 1: Bosa right non quarterback, and there are people who think
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Speaker 1: that Williams as good as for his position. Well so
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Speaker 1: so yeah. So now if it's down to a Quintin
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Speaker 1: Williams or a Juwan Taylor, well, clearly Quinnin Williams is
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Speaker 1: the better player overall, but you need a right tackle.
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Speaker 1: So what do you take as also part of me
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Speaker 1: the wonders if you know they've invested so much in
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Speaker 1: that defensive tackle and they sort of hit on it
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Speaker 1: over the years. Malik Klias, Marcel guys like that, do
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Speaker 1: they draft another one? You know? And probably because it's important.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt, but it uh. It was just hard
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Speaker 1: for me to mock a defensive tackle to this team
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Speaker 1: my perspective, looking at the cap and where they're at
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Speaker 1: in future years and the age factor. You've got Callius
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Speaker 1: who's over thirty, and you've got Marcel who's approaching thirty.
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Speaker 1: If Quinny Williams falls to me, I take him because
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Speaker 1: he's a great player, he's to take. When don't you
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Speaker 1: need a great player? Hey, good player, everyone wants him,
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Speaker 1: but you never passed on great players. And I guess
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Speaker 1: the theory here and big thing too, is all about
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Speaker 1: that board. And look, everyone's is different and we don't
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Speaker 1: know what the jaguarys is here. I like that, all right,
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Speaker 1: can gentle you know what? We might as well teach
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Speaker 1: people a little bit um, including the young ladies sitting
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Speaker 1: to you or left right. But here's what is going on.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are sitting in a spot where there could
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Speaker 1: be a great player that slides to them because players
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Speaker 1: are climbing here. In the last couple of weeks, guys
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Speaker 1: have their workouts and and besides at Oliver, the others
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Speaker 1: Drew Lock apparently the Broncos love him so too do
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Speaker 1: the Raiders who had him with Gruden at the Senior Bowl,
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Speaker 1: and you could have teams buying to get up ahead
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Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks, three quarterbacks, because Haskins is thought by
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Speaker 1: most to be the best of the group. You could
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Speaker 1: have three quarterbacks that people decide they want. Who want
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Speaker 1: either want your spot at seven to get one, which
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Speaker 1: would be a boon, or I want to get passed
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Speaker 1: you and push a guy like Williams down the board,
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Speaker 1: or an Alan or whoever it is that that is
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Speaker 1: thought to be there now for through no faull to
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Speaker 1: their own could slide based on other teams needs. And
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Speaker 1: it looks like the scenario is the Jaguars could be
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Speaker 1: sitting pretty now. The no man's land exists, but there
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Speaker 1: is an opportunity that there's going to be a player
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Speaker 1: that most fans thing, no, no, they're not going to
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Speaker 1: take a defensive tackle. But Hugh Williams is sitting there.
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Speaker 1: You take him. And Dave Cobb was always preaching best
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Speaker 1: player available. And if you need a placement for Calais Temple,
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Speaker 1: who knows how much longer he can stay healthy and
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Speaker 1: play at that type of level. I would definitely want
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Speaker 1: to rule it out right all right, Big thing three.
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Speaker 1: Big thing three is the meeting our very own John
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Speaker 1: Osier was that owners meetings and caught up with Peter King,
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Speaker 1: longtime sports analysts, talking about the addition of Nick Foles,
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Speaker 1: and what he thinks of it. He has to do
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Speaker 1: it over a full season as a starting quarterback with
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Speaker 1: a team that isn't right now a great offensive team.
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Speaker 1: So he's got to raise his game. He's got to raise, uh,
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Speaker 1: the offensive stature of the Jaguars. The opportunity is so
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Speaker 1: good because look, there are some teams in the league.
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Speaker 1: If they get a job, a quarterback job. You say,
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Speaker 1: po man, I'll tell you what he's gonna have to
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Speaker 1: throw for three fifty consistently for this team to have
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Speaker 1: a chance. I don't want to say all you gotta
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Speaker 1: do is manage the game. I hate when they say
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Speaker 1: that because a quarterback has to make plays. But he's
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Speaker 1: going to be in position where if he makes enough plays,
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Speaker 1: he's going to be a great, complimentary player. What do
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Speaker 1: you think, John Um, Peter was great when we talked
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Speaker 1: to him. The overall impression I had from the meeting, uh,
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Speaker 1: it was more on the league issue, the replay issue.
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Speaker 1: It's stunned me how that played out. Uh, stunned you.
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Speaker 1: The result of the fact that, um, that Sean Payton
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Speaker 1: and Bill bellis check and the coaches were able to
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Speaker 1: band together and influence both because the league historically moves
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Speaker 1: very slow on on major change like that. Uh, and
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Speaker 1: it felt like sort of a c change type meeting,
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Speaker 1: and the fact that the replay they decided to go
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Speaker 1: where they are going to review non calls non interference,
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Speaker 1: which I think is a terrible idea by the way,
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Speaker 1: um And, but it is a being celebrated around the
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Speaker 1: league meeting circles. It's an idea that short term solves
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Speaker 1: and you say, well, we address this issue, so it
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Speaker 1: makes you happy. I just think you're gonna get into
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Speaker 1: a situation where so there's gonna be so much uncertainty
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Speaker 1: on what to try to challenge. Most interference calls are
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Speaker 1: between seventy thirty one way or the other, whether they're
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Speaker 1: right or not. There are so few clear interference calls.
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Speaker 1: The Rams Saints thing was a rarity. That's the one
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Speaker 1: where they said, oh, of course it was even Rams
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Speaker 1: fans knew what it was, could say it was interference.
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Speaker 1: When's the last time the Jaguars had an interference penalty
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Speaker 1: go against him, went yeah, that was in infereness. It
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Speaker 1: never happened. We we've spent the last couple of years
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Speaker 1: in this league trying to take the subjectivity away from
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Speaker 1: the and now what we've done is reintroduced on plays
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Speaker 1: where their non calls and you can throw a flag
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Speaker 1: to challenge the non call, But the person that gets
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Speaker 1: to decide isn't the coach, it's the official. So the
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Speaker 1: official is subjectively deciding whether it is or not. As
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Speaker 1: you said, seventy percent of the time. Bill Belichick has
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Speaker 1: said that every place should be reviewable. You only get
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Speaker 1: two challenges, which theoretically is fine, but you're gonna review holding. Well,
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Speaker 1: here's the game down. It's being celebrated by national media writers.
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Speaker 1: But what's being celebrated is the way that the coaches
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Speaker 1: stood together and we're able to influence this decision, like
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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, who part of the competition committee, which is fine,
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Speaker 1: they should have that voice. However, it's a slippery, slippery
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Speaker 1: slope and you're going to create, in my opinion, years
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Speaker 1: doing this, you're going to create more questions than you
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Speaker 1: answer because you've reintroduced subjectivity. You are going to have,
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Speaker 1: I I believe with replay, when you get interference involved,
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Speaker 1: you are going to have a ton of coaches challenge
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Speaker 1: twenty five years they haven't done this. Yes, it it
19:48
Speaker 1: will fix on occasion the absolutely brutal call that they had.
19:53
Speaker 1: So perhaps that's what they wanted, Perhaps that's what it's
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Speaker 1: Whether it's the official or whether it's Al Riveron in
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20:26
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20:29
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20:32
Speaker 1: not fix, and it might get taken out. Yeah, I
20:34
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20:52
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20:57
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Speaker 1: make sure you're ready to grumble. I'm ready. Okay, We've
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Speaker 1: look at running by running back. Despite signing Alfred Blue,
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Speaker 1: We talked about that three back set and how great
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Speaker 1: that we all loved last pre season? John, you already
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Speaker 1: And I definitely think you need a dynamic, UH difference
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Speaker 1: option he likes to be able to throw draft one. UM.
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Speaker 1: I think my opinion that this team is shifting from
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Speaker 1: a more pass oriented offense. UM. I'm not sure about
24:55
Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett. I don't know much about de Filippo
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Speaker 1: you know they're different in style, but they're all the
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25:13
Speaker 1: go draft somebody that gives you that swing presence and
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Speaker 1: just rotate the back, you know, behind David Williams, I say,
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25:26
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25:29
Speaker 1: burning and someone like that, or maybe bring Tommy back? Well,
25:32
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be the run
25:34
Speaker 1: dominant team, so I don't think you need the fullback.
25:36
Speaker 1: You agree, John touchdown Tommy. Unfortunately Tommy bow had to go.
25:42
Speaker 1: I think that era is now passed even in Jacksonville,
25:45
Speaker 1: which means that it's passed in the league for good.
25:48
Speaker 1: All right? As number two and final one? What's something
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Speaker 1: that you want to know about fulls off the field?
25:54
Speaker 1: After reading Nick foles book, I found up he loves
25:56
Speaker 1: coffee and as an ambassador of a coffee company, I
25:59
Speaker 1: want to know more about that. Lulu Lemon, I want
26:02
Speaker 1: to know the gist on that too. I just started
26:04
Speaker 1: the book. It's pretty good, right, it is pretty good.
26:06
Speaker 1: But I think you guys want to know. Have you
26:10
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26:14
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26:27
Speaker 1: Are you done yet? Go for it? Here's what I
26:31
Speaker 1: want off the field. Can I have a free book? Exactly?
26:37
Speaker 1: I'd like to read it, but it was it was
26:40
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26:44
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26:47
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26:49
Speaker 1: just borrow it. After Brian's trading it, I'll be done
26:51
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26:55
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26:58
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27:04
Speaker 1: you're moving to Jacksonville. What's your favorite taco? Gotta like tacos.
27:07
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27:09
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27:12
Speaker 1: We don't where do you want to get it. Sure
27:15
Speaker 1: I can help. I know lots of taco places. He'll
27:17
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Brian from Jacksonville. Brian, not
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Speaker 1: don't agree with you that you to take it should
29:51
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, specifically Dwayne Haskins if he falls at
29:54
Speaker 1: number seven. I get that the quarterback position is important,
29:57
Speaker 1: but you don't have to franchise quarterbacks in the NFL.
30:00
Speaker 1: If Nick doesn't work out, then we draft someone in
30:03
Speaker 1: next year's draft. Can you explain why you think so? Well? John,
30:07
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think it's going to happen
30:09
Speaker 1: that they take a quarterback a number seven. But the
30:12
Speaker 1: argument four is that you want to get that position fixed.
30:16
Speaker 1: There's all the value. Uh. Now, this is sort of
30:20
Speaker 1: a leftover from months of saying that they should. I
30:23
Speaker 1: don't think they will because they didn't pay Nick Foles
30:26
Speaker 1: what they paid him with the idea that he's only
30:28
Speaker 1: gonna be a two year fixed They believe he's going
30:31
Speaker 1: to be a franchise guy for five, six, seven years.
30:34
Speaker 1: But the argument four would be, if you are good
30:38
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles, this is gonna be your last chance
30:41
Speaker 1: for a while to pick this high. Uh. I would
30:44
Speaker 1: like the idea because of the investment value of quarterback,
30:47
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna happen to names Brett Farve, Aaron
30:50
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30:53
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30:56
Speaker 1: not stop them from drafting their future quarterback because they
30:59
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31:02
Speaker 1: expect him to fall to four when he was there,
31:05
Speaker 1: they didn't miss the opportunity to get their franchise quarterback.
31:09
Speaker 1: If that guy is on their board and he is
31:11
Speaker 1: the highest rated player at the most important position in
31:15
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31:18
Speaker 1: tackle who doesn't compare over a quarterback. You take him,
31:22
Speaker 1: you let him sit for a couple of years, then
31:24
Speaker 1: you're ready to go. Or a young Aaron Rodgers, if
31:27
Speaker 1: Brad forv was ready to continue in Green Bay is
31:30
Speaker 1: a number one pick. All that said they won't do it.
31:32
Speaker 1: Of course they won't do it. Not now they're in
31:34
Speaker 1: win now mode. No, they're not going to do it.
31:36
Speaker 1: But you never pass on the man and think of
31:39
Speaker 1: if it wouldn't happen. But if Dwayne Haskins fell to
31:41
Speaker 1: seven and the opportunity for him to learn from someone
31:44
Speaker 1: like Nick Foles for a few years, best player available,
31:47
Speaker 1: If if, if everybody likes Dwayne Haskins, and he's sitting
31:51
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32:03
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32:06
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32:11
Speaker 1: It's weird and sort of disturbing, But I don't like
32:13
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32:17
Speaker 1: from a no Zone topic the last few weeks of
32:20
Speaker 1: why in the world would you take John Taylor because
32:22
Speaker 1: he's a right tackle not a left tackle. The reality
32:25
Speaker 1: is that difference in importance has It's diminished a little
32:32
Speaker 1: bit over the years. When Tony played, left tackle was
32:35
Speaker 1: everything and right tackle was an afterthought. Now it's not
32:38
Speaker 1: so much. Because you have pass rushers off both sides.
32:42
Speaker 1: Left tackle is not nearly as important as it was
32:46
Speaker 1: years ago. It's not the premium position, so it's not equal,
32:50
Speaker 1: but it's not nearly as important. So yes, because Tony
32:53
Speaker 1: knows football, I don't think you would laugh at that response.
32:55
Speaker 1: I would tell you that in Jacksonville, in right tackle
33:00
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33:03
Speaker 1: they paid Leon seriously a very big contract, but because
33:06
Speaker 1: it was seriously that faced Javon curse every time they
33:09
Speaker 1: play the Titans. So that pass rusher coming from that
33:13
Speaker 1: side and more guys come off that side. It's it's
33:16
Speaker 1: grown in importance, but it's always been the opportunity there
33:19
Speaker 1: to have a right tackle to protect. By the way, seriously,
33:22
Speaker 1: was your blindside protector from your left handed quarterback? And
33:25
Speaker 1: in a league where the passing game is increasingly more important, Yep,
33:29
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna become more important right tackle. Pla.
33:32
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33:37
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33:40
Speaker 1: What if Unique gets hurt? It feels really effective when
33:42
Speaker 1: he and Dante both rushed on passing downs. It also
33:45
Speaker 1: seems like our defense could use another such player even
33:48
Speaker 1: if everyone stays healthy. It can happen. There's a great
33:52
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33:55
Speaker 1: what happens if next offseason you can't reach an agreement
33:58
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34:00
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34:02
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34:04
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34:07
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34:22
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Speaker 1: Martineau from Action News Jack's got this text when Tony
36:21
Speaker 1: Dungee was speaking downtown in Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Tony Dungee said this, Jacksonville,
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Speaker 1: Everyone in the locker room love Nick Foles. Because of
36:31
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36:36
Speaker 1: I hope he's right, Tony Dungee, Hi, praise you know,
36:39
Speaker 1: Tony Uh? Any chance that he'd be playing to the
36:42
Speaker 1: audience there. You're speaking at the Floorida Forum, and that's
36:45
Speaker 1: a that's an audience that tends to be a little
36:47
Speaker 1: more decorum focused, right, I mean they stood up straight
36:51
Speaker 1: and they clapped the right way. You think maybe he
36:53
Speaker 1: was playing to the home crown. Yes, sir, I mean
36:55
Speaker 1: certainly the super Bowl being super Bowl comment was But
36:59
Speaker 1: I do believe the Tony believes that Nick Foles. I
37:02
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good right. So I think it
37:04
Speaker 1: also speaks to how much regard he has for the
37:06
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense. Right. I just thought when I saw Super Ball,
37:09
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Tony, let him know he did
37:12
Speaker 1: he did? All right. Let's go to Casey Hayward, cornerback
37:15
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, saying this about the new rules past
37:18
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings, guess NFL is trying to take
37:20
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37:23
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37:27
Speaker 1: and says exactly, that's not a perfect game. Yeah, and
37:33
Speaker 1: the replay isn't gonna solve that. What's gonna be interesting
37:35
Speaker 1: is how analytics plays into when you challenge a holding
37:39
Speaker 1: call or a pass interference called do you do any
37:42
Speaker 1: in the first half? Now, and what we're on the
37:44
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37:47
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37:52
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37:54
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37:57
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37:58
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38:01
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38:10
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38:12
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38:15
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