Latest / Rabbi Moshe Haber - Daily Mussar/Weekly Perasha / Rabbi Moshe Haber Path of the Just -The Strength of Humility and the Danger of Perfectionism 3.12.26
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- 0:01Closing out this point of explaining humility, so the more
- 0:06humility you go. But the thing yesterday was is
- 0:09that a person has to be honest with themselves and say I am
- 0:12somewhat I have flaws. We said yesterday if not if not
- 0:16a modern day concept because modern day they tell everyone to
- 0:18to tell everyone around them how great they are and to get their
- 0:21pal in the back, which is a beautiful thing.
- 0:23In general, I'm a big fan of Kazuk, but at the same time, one
- 0:28has to be OK with being flawed, had to be OK hearing once in a
- 0:33while that you made a mistake. If you're not OK with that, then
- 0:36instead of the being, oh, you're full of confidence because
- 0:38you're always being, you know, supported and being told the
- 0:41great you are. You end up becoming actually
- 0:44shimly a hollow person becomes and he becomes very delicate
- 0:49because if he's unable to recognize the fact that he has a
- 0:52flaw. Remember Tavida Mehr, Arono Quan
- 0:55and all our greats, we're OK with the fact that they made,
- 0:58whatever you call it, a mistake, a fool, or whatever it was, they
- 1:01were OK with it. They live with it and they
- 1:03recognize it. They recognize it.
- 1:06We should be able to recognize it and it shouldn't break our
- 1:08existence and destroy our life. The fact that I made a mistake,
- 1:12it should be OK with that. He says that I'll keep the
- 1:15person humble. What I really will do is keep a
- 1:19person honest, and you need to be honest in life.
- 1:22You can't fool yourself to convince yourself that I am what
- 1:25I'm not. Although conference is a
- 1:27beautiful fuel for our existence, convincing yourself
- 1:32that you are where you are really not ends up becoming a
- 1:35very hollow person and very dangerous.
- 1:38Why is it dangerous? Because sometimes you have
- 1:40people that will see if you a little more just now.
- 1:43Sometimes you have people who believe that they deserve X.
- 1:46They should be treated in a certain way, they should be in a
- 1:49certain position. And why do they believe that?
- 1:51Because they've been told since they're a baby how great they
- 1:54are. And now they come into your
- 1:56company and you're trying to employ them, You're being nice
- 1:59enough to employ them and they're trying to rise to the
- 2:02ranks and they have to work. But all they know is that
- 2:05they're great. All they know is that everything
- 2:07that they touch turns to gold. They believe.
- 2:09And now they expect to be given the proper promotion and the
- 2:13raise and they're given the prestige and to not have to go
- 2:18through the regular steps other people go through because they
- 2:20don't need to. I don't make mistakes.
- 2:21I'm not, I'm not God. I'm great at things.
- 2:24And this, by the way, is a reality, a very common reality.
- 2:27And because they were never told that they are flawed or that
- 2:30they can make a mistake, they have never seen themselves in a
- 2:34light like a regular human being.
- 2:35They don't see themselves that way.
- 2:37And they therefore believe that they deserve the entire
- 2:40everything given to them. That becomes a very dangerous
- 2:43existence. You can't live around them, you
- 2:44can't handle them, you can't employ them.
- 2:47They're hard to have and you're a little better and they're no
- 2:49better. Exactly.
- 2:50That's part of this, right? A person needs to recognize no,
- 2:55no, no, I'm a human being. I made mistakes.
- 2:57I have to rise to the ranks. I have to put in the work.
- 2:59I have to trip in full and they get back up again.
- 3:02I need the whole process. And then they're going to become
- 3:05the other person. And he says the reality is this
- 3:08visit my or finish on to 4:50 to go on to another point.
- 3:12Visit my should I we Shenavine Vinedabe meds with lawyer Zua a
- 3:20person has to say, realize and understand with clarity.
- 3:25So our hearts should not become holy based on nothing and I'm
- 3:29not a kid. We should recognize that our
- 3:35minds are light and our wisdom is weak, very weak.
- 3:39Has secured A banu that I would go vetted.
- 3:42We very often make mistakes that she need a auto ain't no element
- 3:47and all the wisdom that we do have is is a drop literally is a
- 3:54tip of iceberg, a drop in the sea.
- 3:58It's very small. The wisdom that we have.
- 4:00You know, if you ever open up a book, you're talking about
- 4:03learning for a second. You haven't opened up a book a
- 4:06rabbi from 100 years ago. It's upsetting.
- 4:09In reality, it's upsetting. It frustrates you.
- 4:13Why? Because you read what they
- 4:15learned and you read what they knew and you say to yourself in
- 4:18one day, even more than I can know in a month, maybe even a
- 4:22year. And it's somewhat frustrating.
- 4:25It shouldn't be different generations, different world is
- 4:28it is, but it shouldn't be humbly.
- 4:32That's the goal. It should be humbly.
- 4:34And that's true when it comes to total learning and it's true
- 4:36with other areas of wisdom as well.
- 4:38Whatever we know today is a drop in comparison with a New Years
- 4:42ago. And that is just meant to tell
- 4:45you be real with yourself. Don't overdo it.
- 4:47You know people I know this were a fact.
- 4:49People are OK with being almost there.
- 4:55If I go to a guy who's a learner and I tell them, you know, you
- 4:58got more to go, you have to touch this.
- 4:59I'll give you an example. Couple too far nights to go.
- 5:04My kids asked me if I finish shots.
- 5:05OK, class example. Another real story is I never
- 5:08finish shots. I have a shoes, but it doesn't
- 5:11matter. I'm not finish shots.
- 5:12OK, see there you go. OK, very good.
- 5:15Exactly my point. You go no, literally my points
- 5:18right. They said that you finished
- 5:19shops, they went to them, they went to the myself thought in my
- 5:22dining room. So looking at the game and I
- 5:25say, did you learn this yes, that one no, that one yes and
- 5:29everyone that I didn't learn whatever it was OK, not going to
- 5:32try to build my arrogance right now I'm good, but everyone I
- 5:35didn't learn having issues. I didn't learn that because I
- 5:38was learning at this place. They don't learn that itself.
- 5:41And I kept giving excuses and I realized this is a reality upon
- 5:44realities. Every person is perfectly fine
- 5:48being a little flawed, but they have to be 90% there.
- 5:52OK, I didn't address this and that in my life, right, because
- 5:57I'm not there yet, but I'm right there and I don't I don't.
- 6:00I learned up that topic because I didn't.
- 6:02I'm almost there. Everyone needs to feel like
- 6:04they're in an almost position. If I went to a person and told
- 6:07them by the way, you're 20 years behind the real people.
- 6:13By the way, we pale in comparison to the greats from
- 6:17the generation before us in any area.
- 6:19We really absorbed the truth and that is the truth to a degree.
- 6:23The greats that came before us in every area had certain
- 6:26strengths that we are way behind.
- 6:29That doesn't mean that in general way behind shouldn't
- 6:32feel like a 0, but it does mean that if at any point in time you
- 6:37are thinking in your mind, I'm great, I'm golden.
- 6:40I have a small have to dot that I in my my life.
- 6:44I have to just cross that T in my life and then I'm right there
- 6:47with the greats. I am a vam Aveeno.
- 6:49Mine is a drop. And by the way, people in a
- 6:52sense like to think this not that extreme is a vam Aveeno,
- 6:56but they like to believe that anything is attainable.
- 7:00In his sense. It's great because it's
- 7:02attainable, but it's not good to believe that you're right there
- 7:05and you're really them. Mine is a drop and we know
- 7:08people often say when you learn from a sheet, and they say this
- 7:12all the time, you let us have a bit of shit, you learn about our
- 7:14greats, you learn about Mohammed talking to Alcove, yourself, his
- 7:18brothers, etcetera. And you relate the stories and
- 7:22the stories we make relatable to us.
- 7:24And our minds are like our Braham.
- 7:26We had that struggle with that area, but then we overcame it.
- 7:30And I'm also a headset person like our Brahmin.
- 7:32I'm just not running as fast as he ran or giving as much money
- 7:35he ran. And we don't like to absorb the
- 7:38real version, which is they were light years ahead.
- 7:41They did so much more because of that means I'm not in the same
- 7:44ballpark. I need to be in the same
- 7:45ballpark. They know like inside out the
- 7:50greats from 100 years ago, 50 years ago.
- 7:52You've been right. It's an example if we have a
- 7:54million examples like this where the world in different
- 7:58generation. That's because the school
- 8:00structure doesn't involve it. It's a whole discussion.
- 8:03David attached to see him after class.
- 8:04But the is it a fake? It's complicated, but the I
- 8:09don't know the answer, but there's always maybe the reality
- 8:14is every reason. I mean certain schools still
- 8:16have it, but the sharkship out of schools doesn't really
- 8:19address it fully improperly. There might be some reasons, but
- 8:22it's an example. My father loved my father on the
- 8:24Tanakh inside and out inside. He used to tell him no, I was
- 8:28very too young. He used to tell my brothers
- 8:30stories to put them to bed there with Tanakh stories about in the
- 8:33back of his hand. And I'm sorry, I don't know much
- 8:36at all in that area. Right.
- 8:38And that's just a very small generation gap.
- 8:40It's one generation off and it's a completely different thing
- 8:43now. I tell myself, and be honest
- 8:44with you, I tell myself, yeah, but you know, came around and
- 8:47depth, it came around. I do that all day.
- 8:49So, you know, there are different areas.
- 8:52My flaw, my strength, that's convincing myself.
- 8:55You should feel very confident to not feel bad when you absorb
- 9:00this page, when you tell yourself the truth is there are
- 9:03certain areas there were not two inches off a foot off.
- 9:06We are light years away from the greats and seren areas.
- 9:10Perfectly fine with that fact. It's a reality.
- 9:13I'm not living my life trying to address those areas.
- 9:16I haven't put in the time for those areas so I do not deserve
- 9:19the credit in those areas. Let's just say let's give
- 9:22another area of life, let's say Hesse, right?
- 9:25Classic example here is speech about Hesse.
- 9:28You love Hesse but it happens to be you.
- 9:30Don't put any time into Hesse has it means give me charity.
- 9:35It means giving people khazuk. It means giving people advice.
- 9:38It means helping people when they're out of a jog, whatever
- 9:41it may be. All right, You love the topic of
- 9:44has it every time you hear a speech about has said any rabbi
- 9:47that ever gives a speech about being kind and kindness, people
- 9:50love it. But you happen to not be
- 9:52invested in, you know, every time you're working very hard,
- 9:56right? I know someone very close to me
- 9:58who loves Hassid, but they're not really involved with Hassid
- 10:02and it bothers them. So what do you do?
- 10:04What do people do? They can't miss themselves that
- 10:07I'm right there. I really do trust it.
- 10:10I mean, I give charity. I don't have the money.
- 10:12I might not give, they might not really, you know, give people
- 10:14advice. No one asks me.
- 10:16I don't really visit people, I don't have the time.
- 10:19I don't really help younger children.
- 10:21It's not my role. And whatever it is, they go
- 10:22through the whole thing, they don't have any way.
- 10:24They do trust it. I don't have guests over my
- 10:26house. Not good for my family.
- 10:27I'm thinking, I'm giving you, by the way, old realities that make
- 10:30a lot of sense. And then where the old thing
- 10:32holding with not much hassle in their life and then they're
- 10:36relying on the hassle starts at home, you know, a theme to make
- 10:39up for it, which is kind of true, but not the same.
- 10:42And then they realize that we're flawed in the area of hassle.
- 10:45You, you know, you made fun of me with the area of Tanakhs.
- 10:47I can go back to the area of Hesse for you.
- 10:49I'm just saying you hit me hard with that area.
- 10:53My point is, is that there are certain areas that people are
- 10:56fluent and at first they're unwilling to accept it because
- 11:00they want to feel like everyone wants to feel, which is a
- 11:04perfect minus a drop. And by the way, this is the
- 11:07reality of the minds of people around us.
- 11:10And that's because they're unwilling to face the music.
- 11:14You face the music a little bit. You know, it does for you what
- 11:17it does for you. First of all, it makes you
- 11:19strive in those areas. OK, if my headset tank is empty
- 11:23or very light, then I'm looking for the opportunity to get
- 11:26involved and I'll find the opportunity to get involved.
- 11:28And when it comes out, I'll say to myself, I'm a good guy with a
- 11:31good heart with great giving. I just need to apply myself and
- 11:35I'll find an area if my learning, you know, if my
- 11:38learning vessel is empty, I'll find my spot to fill up my
- 11:44learning because I am flawed in that area.
- 11:45And I'm not going to convince myself that I'm doing everything
- 11:48and today the world, because it's a very flaky and therefore
- 11:52insecure and therefore fake self esteem existence.
- 11:57The world lives in a place where every person who thinks that
- 12:01they're great at everything minus a drop.
- 12:04I'm the best ball player, I'm the smartest person, I'm the
- 12:07best learner. I'm kind of very generous.
- 12:10I'm a good headset guy. I'm very nice.
- 12:12This is my makeup. I'm people.
- 12:14And by the way, am I saying something to you that seems
- 12:18surprising or this is a reality? You know it.
- 12:20That the world today, but some. But like I said, I think some of
- 12:24it is good when you believe to an extent, not not the sketch,
- 12:28but when you believe you're great, it could bring you to
- 12:33greatness. Good.
- 12:34You can believe you're capable of greatness.
- 12:36Don't believe and you've done it all.
- 12:39Don't believe that you're striving and you know you're
- 12:41driving in full force in every area because that's not true.
- 12:45You know what nobody is does some gidolim?
- 12:49Maybe, but no, no average person is, not even a great person is.
- 12:53It's very difficult to do so and accept the fact that someone
- 12:57gets up there and tells you about a Lehman who gives 30% of
- 13:02his money to charity. All right, it's a major #30% of
- 13:05the money to charity. And you're very impressed.
- 13:07Don't go ahead and convince yourself that somehow you're
- 13:09giving 30% of your money to charity.
- 13:10You're not. And you know what?
- 13:12That's his credit. And someone gets up there.
- 13:14I, I buy the seats all the time. Someone gets up there.
- 13:17I assume my shots, like I said before I get my kids, they
- 13:20assume our shots. They really finished shots and
- 13:22they did it in depth and you hear about what do you do
- 13:26yourself? I've I've witnessed this
- 13:27conversation. What do they do to themselves?
- 13:29People hear about this. They're also learning their
- 13:30whole life and they didn't finish shots.
- 13:32They say, ah, finish shots. Not all the thing.
- 13:34You don't do that or you know, I'm right there.
- 13:37I'm going to not complete it because I'm waiting for Eddie
- 13:39Pesach to finish. No, give that guy the honor he
- 13:45put in the time we didn't. They deserve it.
- 13:48Tanak same thing being the person who visits, you know,
- 13:51someone talks about, you know, so and so they go to hospitals,
- 13:54they visit the sick. It's a beautiful thing.
- 13:57You know, people automatically, the knee jerk reaction when they
- 13:59hear this is beautiful. I don't do it because I have a
- 14:04schedule. In other words, they only do it
- 14:07because they work at home and they only do it because they
- 14:10have a light schedule. You just had to tear them down
- 14:13because you need to keep yourself at Bay and this is a
- 14:16reality. So and so's the nicest person.
- 14:18They never speak Lashawna, never speak Lashawna.
- 14:22And you thinking yourself, I, I just had a conversation
- 14:24yesterday. It wasn't the biggest
- 14:25conversation. So you feel bad, You know, I
- 14:29speak it because my heart brings it up.
- 14:30I speak it because I'm in a much more volatile family.
- 14:33I got to talk more. How'd you get there?
- 14:36I got there because I am unwilling to accept the fact and
- 14:39I have a flaw. Face the music.
- 14:42It's good for you. It's OK.
- 14:43It's not going to destroy your confidence.
- 14:45In fact, maybe you're right. People need to believe that
- 14:49they're capable of everything. You're capable of everything.
- 14:51Everything is at your fingertips.
- 14:53But that doesn't mean you've succeeded in everything yet.
- 14:56If you've succeeded everything yet, game over.
- 14:58Mission accomplished. Life is done.
- 15:01We finished our job. Nobody's succeeded anything yet.
- 15:03And it's OK to live in 2026, which is a world of confidence,
- 15:09necessary confidence. People need a pound in the back,
- 15:11people need a hug. Everyone needs to love you at
- 15:14the end of conversations. Everyone needs you're a great
- 15:16guy. Everyone needs you're a
- 15:18beautiful person. Everyone needs to hear every
- 15:21speech and believe that they're being given Khazuk.
- 15:24No speech can include criticism. It's impossible.
- 15:27It cannot happen anymore. 2026, I'm with you.
- 15:31We all need a pound the back. Why?
- 15:33Why can't happen? Why can't it happen?
- 15:35Because we cannot be taken down. It's too hurtful.
- 15:38It destroys us. Forget the fact the Robin loses
- 15:40his job and leave that out of the picture simply because it's
- 15:43just too demeaning. It's too demeaning.
- 15:47And by the way, you have to also bring in the Gemara, which is
- 15:50very important. The Gemara says the Gemara's
- 15:54time. No one at the time of the Gemara
- 15:56was able to accept criticism. Time to think him on out.
- 16:02And then it also says, and no one was able to give it, which
- 16:05means you need to be a good person to give it.
- 16:06There are so many, so many examples where people are where
- 16:10people give criticism and they're really giving in their
- 16:14minds, their personal view of the fact and the unhappy of so
- 16:19and so being a big deal and not me.
- 16:21So a part of the reason why you can't give criticism, maybe
- 16:24especially now in the pulpit is because oftentimes you're really
- 16:28just trying to get your opinion across and you're feigning it
- 16:32and coning it, you know, you know, sketching it through your
- 16:35speech. That's part of the reason as
- 16:36well. But overall, people can handle
- 16:38it. So you live in a world today
- 16:40where people are flaky. People need self esteem to be
- 16:44built for them. They need a pound on the back,
- 16:46they need a hug. They need a love you, then
- 16:47you're a great guy. They need it all, all the time,
- 16:51constantly, daily. That's how fickle the world is.
- 16:55Now you go ahead and try to tell that individual that he has a
- 16:58Florida certain area and not yet the greatest father.
- 17:02Tell me that. Great.
- 17:05It shouldn't be Greek. You shouldn't have given me
- 17:07motivation to come over earlier to pick up the phone and call my
- 17:11kids. You should give me motivation to
- 17:13realize I should rearrange my schedule.
- 17:15I should be involved. Great.
- 17:17Now today you go to an average guy already raising his children
- 17:22for four or five years and he told you're not a great father
- 17:24yet destroyed his world. Goodbye, I'm over with you.
- 17:29Tell him you're not really doing the husband thing the way he
- 17:31should. You could be not doing it
- 17:33properly. Destruction.
- 17:36It's a demoralizing fact, right? You're not learning, but that's
- 17:40why. Everyone's so weak.
- 17:41I remember when my son was like in 6th grade, then you won the
- 17:44MVP and I said, but you can't go left, they'll go right.
- 17:49And and I was running because that year it got serious in the
- 17:53in his summer league, right? So he started calling LEP till
- 17:57he figured it out and my wife looked.
- 17:59At me like I was yes a grace yes yes 100%.
- 18:03This is very much reality. This is delicate reality because
- 18:06you need to be a caring person when you provide this
- 18:08information, but it's very much reality whenever you find out.
- 18:12In fact, just give you a a source that they bring.
- 18:16I don't remember exactly. You know, my Tanakh knowledge is
- 18:19David reminded us, but there's a source, two sources where people
- 18:22later on in life who went veered off the path talking about time
- 18:28of Tanakh. One was one of the Quanim Quan
- 18:30Gado and one was one of the Villamel sons, I believe.
- 18:35And in both of those cases, the gallon of it on the set, even
- 18:39the massage set, Do you know why they veered off the path?
- 18:42And they were great people. 11 went off the path and 80 years
- 18:45old, You know why they veered off the path.
- 18:49They were great people, but nobody ever told them that they
- 18:53were floored. That's what they went off the
- 18:54path and they weren't really floored.
- 18:58In fact, he said to go on a builder, you need to make up.
- 19:02You need to come up with a sketch reason.
- 19:06If the kid is too good, come up with a sketch reason and tell
- 19:10them that he needs to grow in a surrounding area.
- 19:12Even if the kids are perfect kid, all right, perfect kid.
- 19:16Because if they never handle criticism, they'll never be able
- 19:21to deal with life and face the fact that they're fluid.
- 19:25They will never be able to be told by their boss.
- 19:27You know, your handwriting is not really cutting it or your
- 19:29essays that your riots don't really work or you're not coming
- 19:32in on time or really, I listen to your conversations.
- 19:34You're not really giving it to full oomph that I want to hear
- 19:37from you. They will never be able to hear
- 19:39that from their boss because no one ever told me that.
- 19:41My Mama always told me I'm the greatest kid that ever lived,
- 19:43right? This is the world that we live
- 19:46in today. And it's a beautiful thing to
- 19:49give people. Khizuk.
- 19:50Trust me, I'm a big fan of Khizuk.
- 19:52Every time I have a conversation with a person in my mind, my, my
- 19:56thought is how can I leave this conversation allow that person
- 19:59to feel good? That's my driving thought.
- 20:01But. But allow people who want you,
- 20:05who are listening to you, who are around you, allow yourself
- 20:08more important than all, to see a flaw in your existence.
- 20:12It'll make you a far more effective the same way great
- 20:16people have to have yes men around them.
- 20:19I don't know people make life decisions.
- 20:20I'm looking at them and say, what in the world are you
- 20:22thinking? How can no one have told you?
- 20:25The answer was his wife was behind him, his mother was
- 20:28behind him, his kids are behind him.
- 20:31That's it. That's all you need to know.
- 20:33What about the fact that people who love him probably making a
- 20:36flawed decision? That's obvious.
- 20:39Anyone with a brain can look at it and say it doesn't make
- 20:41sense. Set it up.
- 20:43No one told him so he doesn't know about flaws.
- 20:46Is this a clear point, Steve? You know, here, we'll say it
- 20:50was. So we're saying that people have
- 20:52a lot of overcompetence today. We're saying they lack humility.
- 20:55Yeah. And it and it what it creates
- 20:57that. Yeah.
- 20:58They were never told they did something wrong.
- 20:59Never told you something wrong. If you would never told you did
- 21:02anything wrong in your life growing up, your entire life.
- 21:07You can never do anything wrong, right.
- 21:09Right. You feel there's a real it's
- 21:13you. You had no idea.
- 21:15It's all over the place. Every little kid today, right.
- 21:19Every little kid today. And I understand.
- 21:21We love confidence and we infuse our children with confidence.
- 21:24I told you my 150 example. I'm with you.
- 21:27Yeah, But when the kid comes home, when he's 67 or 70 and
- 21:33he's a capable kid, not a kid that's struggling.
- 21:35He's a capable kid. If you don't listen, you're a
- 21:38great kid. Must be.
- 21:39The teacher doesn't know how to appreciate you.
- 21:41And this happens, by the way. Trust me, it happens.
- 21:43You do that or the kid lost the game and you tell him, listen,
- 21:48they just didn't pass to you. If it wasn't you, it's his
- 21:51thoughts are very low. They weren't willing to pass to
- 21:53you. Mothers do this all time.
- 21:55Fathers do this all time. What happens?
- 21:58The kid never works on his game. He never studies for a test
- 22:01properly because he did not accept the fact that he's flaws.
- 22:05You know, that's fine. Kids.
- 22:06Q exactly. That's kids.
- 22:09Q Put that into the mind of an adult.
- 22:12Put that into the mind of an adult and the guy is not really
- 22:16bringing in the sales and his coworker is because he's not
- 22:19doing certain things and his boss comes out the one that he
- 22:21said listen to his sales not really matching everyone else's.
- 22:24I see that there's certain flaws in your game.
- 22:27Time to step it up is what do you mean?
- 22:29I do everything perfectly and this is a reality people think
- 22:32and that's all true in the cost of business.
- 22:34How about character? His character is floor to bomb
- 22:37floor because he's gets insulted every time he's not treated like
- 22:42Mashiach. What made you Mashiach?
- 22:44Well, I'm not floating any areas.
- 22:45I am a great person. And if they don't give him the
- 22:47respect he deserves, that are good, the credit he deserves in
- 22:50his mind, they don't give him the treatment he deserves that
- 22:52he feels bad about himself. So you have two areas of major
- 22:57gaps. 1, He is unwilling to grow. 2 His character his hollow
- 23:04and therefore very arrogant and they were very sensitive and
- 23:07often insulted and often upset because I don't have flaws so I
- 23:11know what you're talking about. I don't make mistakes so I know
- 23:14what you're looking at. I am really good in all areas.
- 23:17Maybe I'm missing a dot of an eye over here crossing over to
- 23:20you. Maybe I finished 48 out of the
- 23:23you know what is having messed up taught.
- 23:24Are there 52 or something? I bet it's almost all.
- 23:27I'm right there in my mind. Let's be real.
- 23:30You're not right there. You're OK having more to go.
- 23:33It's OK. That's why we live this life.
- 23:35That's the theme. All right, Start with this.