Latest / Solomonster Sounds Off / Sound Off 926 - Chris Jericho POSSIBLE WWE RETURN And Hulk Hogan Death Takes A DARK TURN
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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's business time, baby. You are listening to solo monsters
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- 0:13Speaker 2: You got grown ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Come over here? Is that Pet Patterson? You have legs?
- 0:22Speaker 1: I was ninety nine percent positive it was just chessed up.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Now congratulations. Who hasn't beat Daniel Garcia? Killer Cross is
- 0:34Speaker 1: coming to House of Glory October tenth. There's a killer
- 0:38Speaker 1: in the house. For all the people shouting work, it's
- 0:43Speaker 1: a work, not a work. Not that that's going to
- 0:47Speaker 1: convince them, but all I can say is not a work.
- 0:51Speaker 1: His three shirts also finally went up on Clearanto this
- 0:53Speaker 1: week on WWE shop if you want to get them
- 0:56Speaker 1: for half off. I guess that's also a part of
- 0:59Speaker 1: the work. Matt and Jeff Hardy are also returning to
- 1:02Speaker 1: House of Glory that night, and we've already announced the
- 1:05Speaker 1: amazing red against Leon Slater, the TNA X Division champions.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So that is shaping up to be one hell of
- 1:10Speaker 1: a night. But you know, it was also one hell
- 1:13Speaker 1: of a night. August twenty second, twenty fifteen. That was
- 1:18Speaker 1: the first NXT Takeover show from Brooklyn. I was there
- 1:21Speaker 1: for that one where Bailey beat Sasha Banks to win
- 1:25Speaker 1: the NXT Women's Championship. Still my favorite women's match of
- 1:28Speaker 1: all time for me. It's in that ninety two rumble
- 1:33Speaker 1: category where there may technically be better matches, but it
- 1:37Speaker 1: just will never be topped, just from the story going
- 1:40Speaker 1: into it, to the match itself, to how influential that
- 1:44Speaker 1: match has become, you know. Indy Hartwell has said that
- 1:47Speaker 1: she signed up for wrestling school the day after watching
- 1:50Speaker 1: that match, like that's the match that made her want
- 1:53Speaker 1: to become a pro wrestler. Billy Starks has said that
- 1:57Speaker 1: she watched that match and thought, hey, that's what I'm
- 1:58Speaker 1: going to do one day. And I'm sure there are
- 2:01Speaker 1: others who are wrestling right now that may not be
- 2:04Speaker 1: were it not for that match that was ten years
- 2:07Speaker 1: ago this week and now Sasha has got nine belts
- 2:11Speaker 1: and Bailey is talking to the voices in her head.
- 2:15Speaker 1: This is episode nine to twenty six of These Solemn Monsters,
- 2:19Speaker 1: sounds up for Saturday, August twenty third, twenty twenty five,
- 2:23Speaker 1: a day early but never a dollar short. Aw has
- 2:27Speaker 1: forbidden door tomorrow afternoon. They are encroaching on my territory.
- 2:32Speaker 1: So we're doing this a day early, as we will
- 2:34Speaker 1: again next weekend because next Sunday is Clash from Paris,
- 2:38Speaker 1: and I will have predictions for clashrom Paris on the
- 2:40Speaker 1: show today and Forbidden Door as well. There's been a
- 2:44Speaker 1: few changes, and I've got a medical update as well
- 2:47Speaker 1: on will Osprey, as well as news on Chris Jericho
- 2:51Speaker 1: potentially returning to WWE. The WWE ESPN deal is taking
- 2:56Speaker 1: effect a lot earlier than originally expected. I'll get into that,
- 3:01Speaker 1: and the story around Hulk Hogan's death just took a
- 3:04Speaker 1: very dark turn this week. Be aware that the Raw
- 3:08Speaker 1: Post shows for the next couple of weeks are going
- 3:10Speaker 1: to be at eight pm Eastern Raw is airing earlier
- 3:14Speaker 1: on Netflix for everyone this Monday three o'clock Eastern time.
- 3:17Speaker 1: No VPN needed for that the following Monday there in Paris.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I don't know if it's airing earlier in the US
- 3:25Speaker 1: for everyone or if you will need your trust the
- 3:28Speaker 1: VPN if you want to watch it early, but it
- 3:31Speaker 1: will probably be on international Netflix, and if it is
- 3:35Speaker 1: airing there and not earlier in the US, that's what
- 3:38Speaker 1: I'll be doing. I'll be watching it earlier and then
- 3:40Speaker 1: going live at eight pm that night, so that way,
- 3:43Speaker 1: you know, I can wrap up a little bit earlier.
- 3:45Speaker 1: But also one of the reasons I do this is
- 3:48Speaker 1: I can maybe get some of my international fans in
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- 3:57Speaker 1: from people saying, oh, I love it when you do
- 3:58Speaker 1: the earlier streams because now, oh I can actually join,
- 4:01Speaker 1: So it's an opportunity to wrangle some of those people in.
- 4:05Speaker 1: So just bear with me in the next week or
- 4:07Speaker 1: so because things are gonna settle back into a normal
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- 5:44Speaker 1: Not to Vince McMahon, who turns eighty years old tomorrow,
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- 5:56Speaker 1: been listening to your podcast since twenty twelve and got
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- 6:07Speaker 1: one and the Vince McMahon Pastry Shop one. Ah yes, yes, yes, yes,
- 6:13Speaker 1: that was the mister McMahon's Pastry Palace intro from SoundOff
- 6:19Speaker 1: episode three sixty seven, one of my favorites. Happy Birthday, Marlin.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I also want to take a moment here to send
- 6:28Speaker 1: my condolences on behalf of the entire SoundOff family to
- 6:32Speaker 1: my friend and my Tuesday Night Titans co host jd
- 6:35Speaker 1: from New York, who lost his grandmother on Wednesday. We
- 6:40Speaker 1: had talked about what was going on the day before,
- 6:43Speaker 1: and it's never easy to lose a family member, especially
- 6:46Speaker 1: your parents. To your grandparents. Yeah, I was very close
- 6:50Speaker 1: with my grandma and she died twenty five years ago,
- 6:53Speaker 1: a quarter of a damned century. I haven't had a
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- 7:08Speaker 1: that herd is always there. So I'm thinking about you,
- 7:11Speaker 1: my friend. Having just announced their new media rights deal
- 7:16Speaker 1: with ESPN for their ple starting in twenty twenty six,
- 7:20Speaker 1: WWE at ESPN went and decided, you know what, why
- 7:24Speaker 1: wait until next year? Why not just start next month?
- 7:28Speaker 1: That was the big news this week. Not only did
- 7:30Speaker 1: the new ESPN streaming service officially launch on Thursday, but
- 7:34Speaker 1: the Peacock era is coming to an end with Clash
- 7:37Speaker 1: in Paris at the end of this month. At least
- 7:40Speaker 1: when it comes to main roster pls. Nxtpl's will continue
- 7:44Speaker 1: airing on Peacock as planned. That's through March of twenty
- 7:48Speaker 1: twenty six. In fact, that NXT has one airing tomorrow
- 7:52Speaker 1: night heat Wave. You notice how they don't even brand
- 7:55Speaker 1: them as NXT events anymore, It's just WWE now WWE
- 7:59Speaker 1: heat So this means that all main roster pls will
- 8:04Speaker 1: be airing in the US exclusively on ESPN's new direct
- 8:08Speaker 1: to consumer service, starting with a brand new ple being
- 8:13Speaker 1: added to the schedule on Saturday, September twentieth, that's going
- 8:16Speaker 1: to be running opposite aw all Out. This was just
- 8:20Speaker 1: a rumor last week, but it's all confirmed now. It
- 8:23Speaker 1: will be WWE wressel Palooza kicking off the ESPN era,
- 8:29Speaker 1: so the wrestle votes report proved to be accurate. Wressel
- 8:33Speaker 1: Palooza was the name of an old ECW pay per
- 8:35Speaker 1: view that ran from nineteen ninety five to two thousand,
- 8:38Speaker 1: which plays off the name of the popular Lallapalooza music
- 8:41Speaker 1: festival that started in nineteen ninety one and runs out
- 8:45Speaker 1: of Chicago to this very day. In fact, it just
- 8:48Speaker 1: concluded a few weeks ago. And yes, to those who
- 8:51Speaker 1: have asked, it was also the name of the wrestling
- 8:54Speaker 1: event where Bud Bundy had to wrestle King Kong Bundy
- 8:57Speaker 1: to get in to get initiated into the no Oh
- 9:00Speaker 1: Ma'am group on an episode of Married with Children. That
- 9:03Speaker 1: episode actually aired in October of nineteen ninety five, the
- 9:07Speaker 1: first ECW Wrestle Polouse. It took place in August of
- 9:10Speaker 1: that year. If you want to be technical about it,
- 9:12Speaker 1: ECW did it first, but look, it could always be worse.
- 9:16Speaker 1: They could do a show called Great Balls of Fire.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I mean, I know that would never happen, right, because
- 9:20Speaker 1: that would be awful. Why the wrestle poll loose a name,
- 9:25Speaker 1: especially when there was an independent promotion that was using
- 9:28Speaker 1: the name and had trademarked it for the last decade.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Why go through the hassle, Why go through the trouble
- 9:34Speaker 1: of buying it away from them? Well, Tony Kahan is
- 9:38Speaker 1: an admitted mark for the old ECW, and they're running
- 9:41Speaker 1: this show directly opposite the all out pay per views,
- 9:43Speaker 1: so it sure feels like someone in Stanford thought, Hey,
- 9:46Speaker 1: let's drive the knife even deeper and use an old
- 9:49Speaker 1: ECW name just to rub salt in the wound, because
- 9:53Speaker 1: wwe would never be that petty. I mean, come on now,
- 9:56Speaker 1: right they wouldn't be that petty, would they Na? Never,
- 10:01Speaker 1: of course not. So The show will take place at
- 10:04Speaker 1: the Gainbridge Field House in Indianapolis, which means that Pat
- 10:07Speaker 1: McAfee will be there at least for one night, you know, him,
- 10:11Speaker 1: being an indie guy in all not that kind of
- 10:13Speaker 1: indie guy, but you know what I mean. ESPN will
- 10:16Speaker 1: also carry the two remaining pls for the year after that,
- 10:19Speaker 1: which are Crown Jewel in October and Survivor Series in November.
- 10:24Speaker 1: If you live outside the US, nothing changes for you.
- 10:28Speaker 1: The shows will continue to air on Netflix internationally, so
- 10:32Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about any of this. ESPN
- 10:34Speaker 1: did not buy out Peacock's remaining rights. What happened is
- 10:38Speaker 1: WWE worked things out with Peacock and then brought it
- 10:41Speaker 1: to ESPN for approval because WWE felt that by splitting
- 10:46Speaker 1: WrestleMania and SummerSlam into two nights over the last few
- 10:50Speaker 1: years and then adding the Evolution Show last month, that
- 10:54Speaker 1: they had already fulfilled their commitment to Peacock for whatever
- 10:56Speaker 1: the number of shows was that they were contracted for.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And that's very interesting that that would seem to imply
- 11:05Speaker 1: that they only added the Evolution Show because they knew
- 11:08Speaker 1: that this deal with ESPN was in the works. So
- 11:11Speaker 1: by adding it, and you know, adding it the same
- 11:14Speaker 1: weekend as aw all in that was just a little
- 11:17Speaker 1: added bonus for them. But by adding that show to
- 11:20Speaker 1: the calendar, they were able to speed things up so
- 11:22Speaker 1: they could get the hell off Peacock that much quicker,
- 11:25Speaker 1: which is very interesting. I mean, look, there's any number
- 11:29Speaker 1: of reasons that you could look at for why they
- 11:31Speaker 1: did Evolution after not doing another one for seven or
- 11:33Speaker 1: eight years. But anybody who thinks that they just decided, Hey,
- 11:36Speaker 1: you know what, we really got to do another Evolution
- 11:38Speaker 1: show now, because boy, the women are killing it and
- 11:41Speaker 1: we just got to do one of these. Like I'm
- 11:44Speaker 1: always looking for some ulterior motive, and I think we
- 11:47Speaker 1: just found it. I think we just found what the
- 11:51Speaker 1: ulterior motive was for them doing that show when they did.
- 11:55Speaker 1: But as part of the deal that WWE worked out
- 11:58Speaker 1: with them, Peacock will be getting new main roster programming,
- 12:01Speaker 1: details of which will be revealed soon. Right now, we
- 12:04Speaker 1: don't know what that means, so, I mean, that doesn't
- 12:07Speaker 1: sound like documentaries right if they're talking about main roster programming.
- 12:13Speaker 1: I mean, the last thing we need is more shows,
- 12:16Speaker 1: So I'm curious what that ends up being. Now. For
- 12:20Speaker 1: his part on the Forbidden Door media call on Thursday,
- 12:23Speaker 1: Tony Kahn was asked about WWE running so many shows
- 12:26Speaker 1: head to head with AW and he gave a very smart,
- 12:30Speaker 1: very disciplined answer by not even addressing them and instead
- 12:35Speaker 1: saying that their focus is on aew and continuing what
- 12:38Speaker 1: he called their excellent year in twenty twenty five, and again,
- 12:44Speaker 1: whether you agree with that statement or not is completely irrelevant.
- 12:47Speaker 1: I thought that was exactly the answer that he should
- 12:49Speaker 1: have given. That's all he needs to do is just
- 12:51Speaker 1: focus on AAW and making it the best that it
- 12:54Speaker 1: can possibly be. And when asked about what Mark Shapiro
- 12:58Speaker 1: of TKO said that paper was dead the dead business,
- 13:03Speaker 1: Tony said their pay per views this year have been
- 13:05Speaker 1: successful and that he's looking forward to adding them to
- 13:08Speaker 1: HBO Max. That they've been talking about AW pay per
- 13:12Speaker 1: views on HBO Max for almost a year now and
- 13:15Speaker 1: they have provided no updates on where things are as
- 13:19Speaker 1: far as that's concerned. I have no idea what is
- 13:22Speaker 1: taking so long or why it would be so difficult
- 13:25Speaker 1: for Warner to have the infrastructure in place by now
- 13:28Speaker 1: to support this. That's something, and that's not even a
- 13:31Speaker 1: Tony Kahn issue or an AW issue. They're basically at
- 13:34Speaker 1: the mercy of Warner Brothers Discovery in HBO Max. Once
- 13:38Speaker 1: they get their shit together, you know, they can shift
- 13:40Speaker 1: their pay per views over to HBO Max. But we've
- 13:44Speaker 1: heard nothing new, and it's been almost a year, but
- 13:48Speaker 1: WWE is going to load up that Wrestle Paloza show.
- 13:51Speaker 1: You know, brock Lesner is likely going to wrestle his
- 13:53Speaker 1: first match back on that show against John Cena. He's
- 13:56Speaker 1: already been scheduled for SmackDown on September twelfth, September nineteenth.
- 14:01Speaker 1: That leads right into the show on September twentieth. I'm
- 14:05Speaker 1: thinking Cody Rhodes defends of the WWE Championship that night
- 14:08Speaker 1: against Drew McIntyre. All Out, we'll probably have Copeland and
- 14:12Speaker 1: Christian challenging for the AW tag team titles. I could
- 14:16Speaker 1: see John Moxley against Darby Allen. We don't know what
- 14:19Speaker 1: Hangman Page or MJF are going to be doing. You know.
- 14:22Speaker 1: The rest of the card is anyone's guess. But All
- 14:24Speaker 1: Out is typically one of their bigger shows of the year,
- 14:27Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Tony will load it up. Regardless,
- 14:31Speaker 1: it will be the better wrestling show of the night,
- 14:34Speaker 1: I have no doubt about that. But WWE is not
- 14:37Speaker 1: trying to out wrestle AW They're not trying to have
- 14:40Speaker 1: the better matches that night. I mean, if they do,
- 14:42Speaker 1: that's great, but that they're not doing it to dominate,
- 14:46Speaker 1: you know, the the wrestling ratings, you know the star ratings.
- 14:50Speaker 1: They're doing it to dominate the conversation and steal all
- 14:53Speaker 1: the headlines and around brock Lesner's first match back alone.
- 14:57Speaker 1: I mean, for better or worse, they're going to be
- 14:58Speaker 1: stealing all the headlines that we cand. What I'll be
- 15:02Speaker 1: doing that night, I haven't decided yet. You know, Head
- 15:05Speaker 1: to Head is going to screw up my recording schedule
- 15:07Speaker 1: that weekend regardless, but I'm going to review the show
- 15:10Speaker 1: live that I think more people are going to be
- 15:12Speaker 1: tuning in for. You know, let's see how the cards
- 15:15Speaker 1: shape up first, and then we'll decide. I did put
- 15:18Speaker 1: an early poll up on Twitter to gauge people's interest
- 15:22Speaker 1: without knowing the cards yet, still very early, but just
- 15:25Speaker 1: to gauge their interest on which show they plan on
- 15:28Speaker 1: watching live that night, and Wrestle Palooza won the vote
- 15:31Speaker 1: fifty eight percent to forty two percent, and that's with
- 15:34Speaker 1: over thirty two hundred votes in So that's a clear
- 15:37Speaker 1: win for WWE, but not exactly a landslide. So let's
- 15:42Speaker 1: see how the cards shape up. I mean, I don't
- 15:44Speaker 1: even have free access to the ESPN service since they
- 15:47Speaker 1: decided to launch this shit early. They still have no
- 15:50Speaker 1: agreement with YouTube TV, so I may have to use
- 15:54Speaker 1: my trustee Express VPN and watch it on Netflix until
- 15:57Speaker 1: they do. I mean, yeah, look, I could pay the
- 16:00Speaker 1: twenty nine ninety nine a month, you know, until they
- 16:03Speaker 1: reach an agreement. It's not that big of a deal,
- 16:05Speaker 1: but it's the principle of it, like just knowing that
- 16:08Speaker 1: most people are probably watching this shit for free, you know,
- 16:11Speaker 1: because they have ESPN and they have a service that
- 16:14Speaker 1: offers ESPN, so then you can get the service for free.
- 16:18Speaker 1: And just knowing that most people are watching this shit
- 16:20Speaker 1: for free. And I have to pay thirty bucks to
- 16:22Speaker 1: watch Brocklesner against John Cena, I feel like I'm being punished.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Do I want to spend thirty bucks to watch John
- 16:29Speaker 1: Cena against brock Lesner. Yeah, I don't know about that.
- 16:33Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Now, that wasn't the only
- 16:35Speaker 1: news to come out of this. If you think WWE
- 16:39Speaker 1: is getting out of the Peacock business and Peacock is
- 16:42Speaker 1: getting out of the WWE business, think again. This week,
- 16:46Speaker 1: the two sides announced a multi year partnership to become
- 16:49Speaker 1: the exclusive streaming home for Saturday Night's main event, which
- 16:54Speaker 1: will air live on Peacock four times a year through
- 16:57Speaker 1: I believe twenty nine, which is when the NBC Universal
- 17:03Speaker 1: deal for SmackDown expires, and even though there's already been
- 17:06Speaker 1: three of them this year. We had a Saturday Night's
- 17:08Speaker 1: made of it in January, we had one in May,
- 17:11Speaker 1: we had one in July, so you would think there's
- 17:14Speaker 1: only one left, but despite that, there are two more,
- 17:18Speaker 1: with the first one taking place on November first from
- 17:21Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah, and the second one and final
- 17:24Speaker 1: one of the year, taking place on December thirteenth, and
- 17:27Speaker 1: that will likely be in Boston. That will be the
- 17:30Speaker 1: night of john Sen's retirement match. I don't think they've
- 17:32Speaker 1: confirmed Boston yet as the location, but they have confirmed
- 17:36Speaker 1: in the press release that will be john Sen's final match.
- 17:39Speaker 1: No one is happier to hear that news than Tony
- 17:43Speaker 1: Kahan because World's End is spared. There was talk of
- 17:48Speaker 1: them maybe doing the show on December twenty seventh, which
- 17:51Speaker 1: is the night of aw World's End on pay per views,
- 17:53Speaker 1: So Tony is relieved right now. Bill Goldberg, on the
- 17:58Speaker 1: other hand, he may be throwing furniture around somewhere. I'm
- 18:00Speaker 1: probably injuring himself that John Cena will get to do
- 18:03Speaker 1: his retirement on Peacock with no commercials like he had
- 18:07Speaker 1: on NBC. And that's why I really liked that decision.
- 18:11Speaker 1: I mean, does it lose a little bit of luster
- 18:12Speaker 1: by not airing live on NBC, Sure, But if it
- 18:16Speaker 1: means fewer commercials and ad breaks mid match, that instantly
- 18:20Speaker 1: makes the show better. So I'm fine with that. But
- 18:23Speaker 1: it also shows that NBC was not exactly thrilled with
- 18:26Speaker 1: how the shows were performing, because if they were, there's
- 18:30Speaker 1: no way that they would have taken them off NBC,
- 18:32Speaker 1: at least not for John Cena's retirement match. You know,
- 18:35Speaker 1: at least for that one, they would at least be
- 18:37Speaker 1: simulcasting that shit, and they're not, and I think that's
- 18:40Speaker 1: very telling. And also, you know, since they're losing the
- 18:43Speaker 1: main roster plees, you know, they want to do what
- 18:45Speaker 1: they can to keep people subscribed to Peacock. So how
- 18:48Speaker 1: do you do that. You've got to offer them something
- 18:50Speaker 1: exclusive that they can't get anywhere else, you know, by
- 18:54Speaker 1: making the Saturday night's main event shows exclusive to Peacock.
- 18:58Speaker 1: It's smart, and it also means that I have to
- 19:01Speaker 1: keep the cock now. So well played, WWE, well played.
- 19:07Speaker 1: So all of this is a lot to take in.
- 19:09Speaker 1: There's been a lot of This is a flurry, a
- 19:11Speaker 1: hurricane of news coming fast and furious these past few weeks,
- 19:15Speaker 1: so it can be a lot to digest. The WWE
- 19:18Speaker 1: archives are something I've been asked a lot about this week.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I've been curious about it myself, but there are a
- 19:23Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know what's going on, so
- 19:25Speaker 1: they've been asking me. The classic content will continue to
- 19:28Speaker 1: be available on Peacock through the end of this year,
- 19:31Speaker 1: and unless they strike a deal with Peacock or someone
- 19:34Speaker 1: else for the rights to the library, that means that
- 19:37Speaker 1: as of January first, there are no more archives. They
- 19:41Speaker 1: will no longer have a home. They're going to be
- 19:43Speaker 1: disappearing three months earlier than expected. Now. I'm sure they're
- 19:47Speaker 1: going to work something out before then, maybe it'll migrate
- 19:51Speaker 1: over to ESPN, But if they don't make a deal
- 19:54Speaker 1: by then, we will no longer have access to that
- 19:56Speaker 1: content until they do, outside of whatever they upload the
- 20:00Speaker 1: WWE Vault on YouTube, and honestly, I've been spending most
- 20:04Speaker 1: of my time on there anyway. When it comes to
- 20:06Speaker 1: the classic stuff, I love the vault. If they want
- 20:10Speaker 1: to add more content to the Vault, I'm all in
- 20:12Speaker 1: favor of it. But they still need to have that
- 20:15Speaker 1: one central location where you can navigate through full episodes
- 20:20Speaker 1: of whatever it is that you're looking for, And you
- 20:23Speaker 1: can kind of do that with the playlists that they
- 20:25Speaker 1: put together on the Vault channel, but it's not the
- 20:27Speaker 1: same thing, you know, It's not the same layout as
- 20:30Speaker 1: what the WWE network was or what Peacock is, or
- 20:32Speaker 1: what it would be on Netflix. So hopefully they will
- 20:36Speaker 1: land somewhere where they can store all of that, and
- 20:39Speaker 1: not just store all of it, but continue uploading new content.
- 20:43Speaker 1: The know the reasons that they slowed down on doing that,
- 20:46Speaker 1: and they really don't update a lot of classic stuff
- 20:48Speaker 1: anymore on there is because the audience just isn't there
- 20:50Speaker 1: for it. But I hope that they at least for
- 20:54Speaker 1: the people who are interested in that content, that they
- 20:58Speaker 1: will start uploading more stuff. It's not like everything's on PEAKID.
- 21:01Speaker 1: There's a lot that's missing and that they just sort
- 21:04Speaker 1: of stopped, and they need to pick up with that.
- 21:07Speaker 1: But I think they also need to just do a
- 21:08Speaker 1: better job of advertising that it's available, and they don't
- 21:12Speaker 1: do that because they just assume nobody's going to care.
- 21:14Speaker 1: But if they at least put a little more effort
- 21:16Speaker 1: into advertising the fact that, hey, you know, guess what,
- 21:19Speaker 1: we've got this entire library of stuff. Here's some highlights
- 21:23Speaker 1: of you know what happened this week twenty five years ago,
- 21:26Speaker 1: thirty five years ago. And you know, little almost like
- 21:30Speaker 1: little bumpers coming in and out of commercial breaks on
- 21:33Speaker 1: some of the shows. You know, that might go a
- 21:35Speaker 1: long way. You know, it's sort of like out of sight,
- 21:38Speaker 1: out of mind, and especially with newer fans, they may
- 21:40Speaker 1: not even know that this stuff is there or be
- 21:43Speaker 1: given a reason to care about it. So I'd like
- 21:45Speaker 1: to see them ratchet, you know, that up when when
- 21:48Speaker 1: the content moves to wherever it's going to move to.
- 21:50Speaker 1: But my fear is that it's just not important to them,
- 21:54Speaker 1: you know. The real estate on television is just it's
- 21:56Speaker 1: too important for them to waste it on promoting the
- 22:00Speaker 1: fact that you can get old episodes of primetime wrestling
- 22:04Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty eight. And I get it, I understand it,
- 22:08Speaker 1: but I just wish it wasn't like that. The mystery
- 22:12Speaker 1: of what's going on with Naomi is a mystery no more.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Adam Pearce introduced her out to the ring on Raw
- 22:19Speaker 1: Monday Night to announced that she and Jimmy Usso are
- 22:22Speaker 1: having a baby. Baby USO is on the way. Actually,
- 22:28Speaker 1: they announced it together on a bonus episode of Stephanie
- 22:31Speaker 1: McMahon's podcast, since the pod that they did together the
- 22:34Speaker 1: week before was actually taped before SummerSlam, before she even
- 22:38Speaker 1: knew that she was pregnant, and after the announcement was
- 22:41Speaker 1: made on Monday night, she immediately went back into heal
- 22:44Speaker 1: Naomi mode and cut a promo on Adam Pearce, telling
- 22:47Speaker 1: him that she knows what it's like to surrender a
- 22:49Speaker 1: title and hand over a title before and she wasn't
- 22:52Speaker 1: handing him shit, told him to get out of her face,
- 22:56Speaker 1: and then she put the entire women's division on notice
- 22:59Speaker 1: that they have nine months and some change to hold
- 23:01Speaker 1: the title before she takes it back. As far as
- 23:05Speaker 1: announcements like this go, like an injury where somebody has
- 23:08Speaker 1: to give up their title, this was one of the best.
- 23:12Speaker 1: This was the highlight of the show. Now, obviously the
- 23:15Speaker 1: timing of this is terrible career wise for her because
- 23:19Speaker 1: she was just starting her run as champion and really
- 23:22Speaker 1: settling in nicely in the heel role. There was a
- 23:25Speaker 1: void in that spot after liv Morgan got hurt, and
- 23:28Speaker 1: Naomi moved right into that spot pretty seamlessly. Now she
- 23:32Speaker 1: and Live are both gone, which presents an opportunity for
- 23:35Speaker 1: somebody else. But look, you can't predict when these things
- 23:38Speaker 1: are going to happen. You know, She's obviously very happy,
- 23:42Speaker 1: but you could tell from her demeanor on Stephanie's podcast,
- 23:44Speaker 1: she's still struggling with the timing of it, like it's
- 23:47Speaker 1: a bittersweet thing for her. She told Stephanie that she
- 23:50Speaker 1: found out she was pregnant on August tenth, the day
- 23:53Speaker 1: before she was slated to defend her title on Ragin's
- 23:56Speaker 1: EO Sky. She said, in my hotel room, I had
- 23:59Speaker 1: been feeling a little bit different, a little weird. Just
- 24:02Speaker 1: wanted to take a test to find out and make sure,
- 24:04Speaker 1: kind of rule it out, not thinking because it's been
- 24:07Speaker 1: a long journey with fertility issues that I've had, so yeah,
- 24:11Speaker 1: I really just didn't think it was possible. And she
- 24:14Speaker 1: revealed that before she made her debut on the main
- 24:16Speaker 1: roster as a funk dactyl, she underwent a procedure called
- 24:20Speaker 1: an oh aphrectomy where she had her right overy removed,
- 24:24Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty, she underwent a procedure to
- 24:28Speaker 1: remove fibroids from her uterus. She said, I had tons
- 24:32Speaker 1: and big ones and it was only supposed to be
- 24:35Speaker 1: a couple of hours the surgery, but she ended up
- 24:37Speaker 1: being in there for six hours. Then she had to
- 24:39Speaker 1: take six months off to recover. Her last match. From
- 24:42Speaker 1: what I can tell, her last match was in August
- 24:45Speaker 1: of that year, which was a beat the clock match
- 24:48Speaker 1: against Bailey, and then we didn't see her again until
- 24:51Speaker 1: the Royal Rumble. As she figured due to her medical history,
- 24:55Speaker 1: the chances of her and Jimmy conceiving a child naturally
- 24:57Speaker 1: were just not that high. She said the sir was
- 25:00Speaker 1: more intense and severe than they thought it was initially,
- 25:03Speaker 1: and just the healing and also a lot of scar tissue.
- 25:07Speaker 1: On top of being older, I'm thirty seven now, and
- 25:10Speaker 1: on top of only having one ovary, we thought for
- 25:13Speaker 1: sure that naturally I just couldn't anymore. And she also
- 25:18Speaker 1: said her pregnancy is considered high risk, so she'll be
- 25:21Speaker 1: going for checkups more often, but so far everything is
- 25:24Speaker 1: looking good, which is great to hear. Well. I mean, look,
- 25:29Speaker 1: the other women have Jimmy Big Jim to thank now
- 25:33Speaker 1: for eliminating some of their competition. She said that she's
- 25:36Speaker 1: seven weeks pregnant, which means that when she cashed in
- 25:39Speaker 1: her money in the bank to win the world title,
- 25:42Speaker 1: she was with child, which makes her the first money
- 25:45Speaker 1: in the bank winner to do so, if there is
- 25:47Speaker 1: a category for such a thing, if not there is
- 25:50Speaker 1: now they didn't announce anything as far as the Women's
- 25:54Speaker 1: Championship goes, but with one raw left before clash in Paris,
- 25:56Speaker 1: they're going to have to make a decision tomorrow or
- 25:59Speaker 1: not tomorrow. But I'm month so used to doing these
- 26:01Speaker 1: shows on Sunday, They're gonna have to make a decision
- 26:03Speaker 1: on Monday. And I still maintained the easiest thing to
- 26:07Speaker 1: do and the most sensible idea is to make a
- 26:10Speaker 1: match between EO Sky and Stephanie Vcaire because Eo was
- 26:14Speaker 1: supposed to get a title match with Naomi, which never happened.
- 26:17Speaker 1: Right that's when she found out she was pregnant. The
- 26:19Speaker 1: match got called off. Stephanie won a Battle Royal and
- 26:23Speaker 1: Evolution to earn a championship match. Turning it into a
- 26:26Speaker 1: multi person match would not be very fair to Stephanie, now,
- 26:30Speaker 1: would it. Right, she earned a match against the champion
- 26:34Speaker 1: EO is owed a match. Just do EO Sky against
- 26:38Speaker 1: Stephanie Vicaire for the vacant title. That's all you really
- 26:42Speaker 1: need to do. Now. They could add Roxane Perez to
- 26:45Speaker 1: the match if they want to, because Roxanne could argue
- 26:48Speaker 1: she pinned EO two weeks ago, which she did. That
- 26:51Speaker 1: was the replacement match for EO against Naomi. They did
- 26:55Speaker 1: EO against Roxane and ro Sam pinned EO Sky, something
- 26:59Speaker 1: that rear Ripley has never been able to do. So
- 27:03Speaker 1: you could make it a triple threat. You could have
- 27:05Speaker 1: EO pin Roxand to get her win back, and that
- 27:08Speaker 1: also spares them from having to pin Stephanie because even
- 27:11Speaker 1: if they do EO against Stephanie, I would have EO
- 27:14Speaker 1: win the title back like Stephanie Vecer getting pinned in
- 27:18Speaker 1: a competitive match by EO Sky not a big deal.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I'm just saying if they turn it into a triple
- 27:22Speaker 1: threat or a fatal four way or something like that,
- 27:25Speaker 1: you could then spare Stephanie from having to take the
- 27:28Speaker 1: pin if that matters. If that's a big deal. But
- 27:33Speaker 1: I just think it's way too soon to belt up Stephanie.
- 27:37Speaker 1: She's barely even been on the show since evolution. She's
- 27:40Speaker 1: almost been forgotten about just put the belt back on
- 27:43Speaker 1: Eo until Perth in October. And in Perth, Ria Ripley
- 27:47Speaker 1: finally beats Eo Sky for the first time and she
- 27:49Speaker 1: wins back the Women's World Championship. She runs with it
- 27:53Speaker 1: for a few months until they're ready to do Rhea
- 27:55Speaker 1: against Stephanie next year. Maybe at WrestleMania, Stephanie wins the
- 27:58Speaker 1: championship from Ria Ripley. That'll be a big, big win
- 28:01Speaker 1: for her. That's it, that's really all you have to
- 28:04Speaker 1: do and live. Morgan is probably going to be back,
- 28:06Speaker 1: I would imagine in time for the Royal Rumble, probably
- 28:08Speaker 1: the beginning of next year. It doesn't need to be
- 28:11Speaker 1: for the championship. You can go into a program or
- 28:15Speaker 1: a story with her and Roxanne that would be a solid,
- 28:19Speaker 1: sort of underneath story that doesn't really need the championship
- 28:23Speaker 1: so as far as like the key players are concerned,
- 28:25Speaker 1: And that doesn't even include whatever Becky Lynch is going
- 28:27Speaker 1: to be doing. That accounts for most of the key
- 28:30Speaker 1: players on the Ross side. And that takes you right
- 28:32Speaker 1: into WrestleMania season, and that leads nicely into my clash
- 28:39Speaker 1: in Paris. Predictions for next Sunday with a two pm
- 28:42Speaker 1: Eastern start time, and just like Forbidden Door, tomorrow, my
- 28:46Speaker 1: plan is to go live at eight pm that night.
- 28:49Speaker 1: I think that'll work well tomorrow, and if it does,
- 28:52Speaker 1: we'll do the same thing for Clash in Paris next weekend,
- 28:55Speaker 1: and then we'll push the podcast out a day early.
- 28:58Speaker 1: I have not seen any attendance numbers for this show.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Is an indoor arena, but it fits a big one.
- 29:03Speaker 1: It fits up to forty five thousand people for concerts.
- 29:07Speaker 1: For a show like this, it's probably more like thirty
- 29:09Speaker 1: to thirty five thousand, which is still a lot of people.
- 29:12Speaker 1: But there was a note in the Observer this week
- 29:14Speaker 1: that tickets have not been selling that well because they
- 29:17Speaker 1: completely priced themselves out of the market with their most
- 29:20Speaker 1: expensive seats. People are not buying them up like they
- 29:22Speaker 1: expected them to. And look, they're still going to have
- 29:25Speaker 1: a lot of people there and it should be very loud,
- 29:28Speaker 1: but it definitely will not be sold out, which can
- 29:32Speaker 1: only mean one thing. Ari Emanuel is on the phone
- 29:36Speaker 1: as we speak to Dwayne. Dwayne, we need you, we
- 29:41Speaker 1: need you, We need you to come snatch up some souls.
- 29:46Speaker 1: So the card right now is incomplete. This is pending
- 29:49Speaker 1: their decision on the Women's World title situation and what
- 29:52Speaker 1: other matches they might add. They have a few possibilities,
- 29:55Speaker 1: Cody Roads against Drew McIntyre for the WWE title being
- 29:58Speaker 1: the most obvious one, but that's feels like a wrestle
- 30:01Speaker 1: Palouza match to me. Plus Cody miss SmackDown again this week,
- 30:05Speaker 1: so there's not enough time to set that up for
- 30:07Speaker 1: Paris anyway. Maybe Becky Lynch on that show defends her
- 30:11Speaker 1: Intercontinental title against Nikki Bella. Maybe Dominic Mysterio defends his
- 30:16Speaker 1: Intercontinental title against aj Styles. Sammy's ain we know is
- 30:20Speaker 1: getting a US title match against Solo Socoa in Leon,
- 30:23Speaker 1: France on SmackDown next week, so that will not be
- 30:26Speaker 1: on the ple. But here's what the card looks like
- 30:29Speaker 1: as of right now. Seamus and Russev, they have been
- 30:33Speaker 1: fighting like cats and dogs for weeks now, they're both
- 30:35Speaker 1: even at one win apiece and now they're actually getting
- 30:38Speaker 1: a pl spot. The only other ple match that Seamus
- 30:42Speaker 1: has been a part of all year was the Royal Rumble,
- 30:45Speaker 1: and if you can believe it, this will mark his
- 30:48Speaker 1: first singles match on a ple in three years. You
- 30:54Speaker 1: would have to go all the way back to Clash
- 30:56Speaker 1: at the Castle in twenty twenty two when he challenged
- 31:00Speaker 1: Gunther for the Intercontinental title. That was the last time.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Outside of that. It's been all tags and triple threats
- 31:07Speaker 1: and war games matches, and not even that many of them.
- 31:11Speaker 1: But this time it'll be a good old fashioned Donnie
- 31:13Speaker 1: Brook match, which is basically anything goes, but with barrels
- 31:17Speaker 1: at ringside. I mean, maybe they can play him out
- 31:19Speaker 1: to the ring to roll out the barrel. It would
- 31:23Speaker 1: still be better than that garbage that Deaf Rebel gave him.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I think Seamus wins this. He's one and one in
- 31:31Speaker 1: Donny Brook matches so far. He lost one to Drew
- 31:33Speaker 1: MacIntyre and he beat Pete Dunn in the other, but
- 31:36Speaker 1: this is his specialty. I think the Babyface wins this,
- 31:39Speaker 1: So I'm going with Seamus again. The Women's World Championship
- 31:43Speaker 1: will be decided on this show. How exactly we don't know,
- 31:46Speaker 1: but so long as eo Sky is in the match,
- 31:49Speaker 1: I'm picking Eosky to win the belt back. I know
- 31:52Speaker 1: she's got her own story going on right now with
- 31:54Speaker 1: Rheo Ripley and the Kabuki Warriors. It's probably building to
- 31:58Speaker 1: a tag team match. If they put the title on Stephanie,
- 32:01Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I just think it's too soon
- 32:04Speaker 1: to do that. If they put the title on Roxanne,
- 32:07Speaker 1: because apparently they're very, very high on Roxand, I would
- 32:11Speaker 1: not hate it, but I really don't think she needs it.
- 32:13Speaker 1: When Live Morgan comes back, EO Sky is the way
- 32:16Speaker 1: to go. She is your next women's World champion. Roman
- 32:21Speaker 1: Rains returned on Raw Monday Night. He came to the
- 32:23Speaker 1: aid of Jay Usso in his Extreme Rules match against
- 32:26Speaker 1: bron Breaker. He challenged Bronson reed to a match in Paris.
- 32:30Speaker 1: Reid accepted, and he promised to steal roman shoes again.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I don't see Roman reiins losing to Bronson Reid. Bron Breaker, sure, maybe,
- 32:40Speaker 1: but not Bronson Reid because he remember, he is Roman.
- 32:44Speaker 1: That is likely disappearing again after this match because he's
- 32:48Speaker 1: scheduled to go film for Street Fighter all of next
- 32:51Speaker 1: month through the twenty sixth, I believe is what p
- 32:54Speaker 1: W Insider was reporting. So, I mean, if he's going away,
- 32:57Speaker 1: you could destroy him first, even if you don't beat him.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I still don't think he's gonna lose, But you could
- 33:03Speaker 1: do an angle after the match, where you know, you
- 33:07Speaker 1: kind of destroy him and send him on his way.
- 33:09Speaker 1: The thing is, though, like he just got destroyed. He's
- 33:13Speaker 1: already coming off of an angle where he got destroyed
- 33:15Speaker 1: and he was gone for a few weeks. Yeah, granted
- 33:18Speaker 1: it was all of two weeks, but they already did
- 33:21Speaker 1: an angle like that. I don't know if they want
- 33:23Speaker 1: to do another one again so soon after the last one.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's going to be on
- 33:27Speaker 1: RAW that Monday. He starts filming on September second. I
- 33:30Speaker 1: believe that's the day after Raw, and they're filming in Australia,
- 33:35Speaker 1: so he may not even be there. I mean, that
- 33:37Speaker 1: clash in Paris match may be it for him for
- 33:39Speaker 1: the next month. But I'm going with Roman Reigns to win.
- 33:43Speaker 1: John Cena goes one on one with Logan Paul. This
- 33:47Speaker 1: is not a match that I have been terribly excited about.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Although Logan Paul was the MVP of that tag team match,
- 33:53Speaker 1: the celebrity match at Summer Salam with you know, Jelly Roll,
- 33:57Speaker 1: and he's had some great matches absolutely and given credit
- 34:00Speaker 1: for the for the matches that he has. He goes
- 34:02Speaker 1: out there, and more often than not he tries to
- 34:05Speaker 1: steal the show, and a lot of times he does
- 34:08Speaker 1: so him against John Cena. In many ways, he's a
- 34:11Speaker 1: really good opponent for John Cena because whatever John Cena
- 34:13Speaker 1: can't do, Logan Paul can, and Logan Paul can, you know,
- 34:18Speaker 1: bump all over the place for him and do all
- 34:21Speaker 1: kinds of stuff that John Cena can react to. But
- 34:26Speaker 1: John Sen is not going to be the one doing
- 34:27Speaker 1: all these dazzling, you know, show stealing moves here. So
- 34:31Speaker 1: in that regard, I think he's a good opponent for him,
- 34:33Speaker 1: but I can't say that this match had to be
- 34:35Speaker 1: terribly excited. And then we got to smack Down on
- 34:38Speaker 1: Friday Night and John Cena was back, and John Cena
- 34:41Speaker 1: was on SmackDown in Dublin, Ireland, and he didn't even
- 34:44Speaker 1: get a word out before Logan Paul crashed the party
- 34:47Speaker 1: and Logan Paul cut a promo on John Cena, and
- 34:50Speaker 1: it was fine, It was a perfectly fine promo. But
- 34:53Speaker 1: then John Cena got to retort and he took the
- 34:56Speaker 1: microphone and for the next five minutes straight he cut
- 35:00Speaker 1: what was easily one of the best promos of this
- 35:04Speaker 1: entire retirement run so far, it is something that is
- 35:07Speaker 1: worth going out of your way to watch the whole
- 35:09Speaker 1: thing in full. I cannot say that he buried Logan Paul.
- 35:13Speaker 1: I mean, in some ways he did, but this was
- 35:15Speaker 1: not a promo where he buried Logan Paul. He put
- 35:19Speaker 1: the man over for his abilities. He was careful at
- 35:22Speaker 1: the beginning of this to put him over and call
- 35:25Speaker 1: him a future WWE champion, a future WrestleMania main inventor.
- 35:29Speaker 1: And he's looking at the fans and going, guys, I
- 35:32Speaker 1: know you don't like it, I know you don't want
- 35:33Speaker 1: to hear it. But he's not going nowhere. We're not
- 35:35Speaker 1: going to get rid of him. You know, he's here
- 35:37Speaker 1: to stay, and he's actually really really good. But then
- 35:40Speaker 1: from there he went the opposite way, and he focused
- 35:44Speaker 1: on the criticisms that a lot of fans have about him,
- 35:47Speaker 1: and a lot of the things the fans don't like
- 35:49Speaker 1: about him, and how disrespectful he can be. And now
- 35:52Speaker 1: they're kind of playing it up for the story about
- 35:54Speaker 1: how disrespectful he can be and all, you're only here
- 35:57Speaker 1: to take advantage of us and use us, and he's
- 35:59Speaker 1: showing us the prime hydration station at ringside and talking
- 36:02Speaker 1: about his drone and you're here for moments and all
- 36:06Speaker 1: this other stuff. But there's a lot of truth to
- 36:09Speaker 1: what he's saying. And even if there isn't a lot
- 36:12Speaker 1: of truth, there's a lot of fans who believe a
- 36:14Speaker 1: lot of what he was saying here in this promo,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and he's tapping into all these different criticisms, but he
- 36:19Speaker 1: did it in a way where it was some of
- 36:22Speaker 1: the best work I've seen from him on the mic
- 36:24Speaker 1: all year. Like when Sena is on, he is untouchable,
- 36:28Speaker 1: he really And we've seen that before, right, We saw
- 36:31Speaker 1: that in the promo years ago with Roman Reigns the
- 36:35Speaker 1: Big Dog, where he just eviscerated him and embarrassed him
- 36:38Speaker 1: on the micro. Like one of the most embarrassing moments
- 36:42Speaker 1: ever in a promo segment like that that I can remember,
- 36:45Speaker 1: especially with like two Top Guys, was when Roman lost
- 36:49Speaker 1: his train of thought in that promo and Scena literally
- 36:54Speaker 1: is just kind of leaning back up against the ropes
- 36:57Speaker 1: and he just goes, take your time, take your time.
- 37:01Speaker 1: And he said some other stuff as well, but that
- 37:03Speaker 1: he hit him with that line you know there at
- 37:05Speaker 1: the end about how you know I came back because
- 37:09Speaker 1: you can't do your job. He'll always get like, at
- 37:12Speaker 1: least that one line in there that just burns the
- 37:15Speaker 1: other person to the ground. And Austin theory, you know,
- 37:18Speaker 1: a few years ago, forget about it. That was just
- 37:20Speaker 1: a complete burial job, and Austin Theory was never the
- 37:23Speaker 1: same after that. So this wasn't quite that bad. This
- 37:26Speaker 1: wasn't as biting as that was. But even here, you know,
- 37:30Speaker 1: he's going on about how, you know, these fans resent
- 37:32Speaker 1: you because you've you know, wasted part of what little
- 37:37Speaker 1: time I have left here in this retirement run, where
- 37:40Speaker 1: I could be working with like future legends and stars
- 37:43Speaker 1: like Dominic Mysterio and aj Styles and Seth Rollins and
- 37:48Speaker 1: Jacob Fought too, and so you know, the fans don't
- 37:51Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that I'm wasting my time with you, you know,
- 37:55Speaker 1: And I'm wasting my time with a backflipping YouTuber who's
- 37:59Speaker 1: you know, pushing saltwater and just on and on and
- 38:02Speaker 1: on and just really lacing into this guy. But he's
- 38:06Speaker 1: all up in his face and he says, you know, look,
- 38:09Speaker 1: clash in Paris is an opportunity for you to prove
- 38:12Speaker 1: yourself it's a you know, it's a it's a proving
- 38:14Speaker 1: ground in effect for Logan Paul. It's really nice. You
- 38:18Speaker 1: know that you've had twenty three wonderful matches so far
- 38:21Speaker 1: in your WWE career, but I've had twenty three years
- 38:24Speaker 1: worth of matches in my career. You've got some catching
- 38:27Speaker 1: up to do. And so, just from start to finish,
- 38:30Speaker 1: top to bottom, I thought that this was just excellent stuff,
- 38:34Speaker 1: easily the highlight of the show on Friday. And now
- 38:39Speaker 1: there's a story there that I can buy into. Right now,
- 38:43Speaker 1: I have a reason to actually care about this match
- 38:45Speaker 1: just based on what John Cena was saying in that promo.
- 38:48Speaker 1: He was able to kind of reel me in, and
- 38:51Speaker 1: that's what I was looking for here. They made the match,
- 38:53Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, great, you made the match, but
- 38:55Speaker 1: like there's no real there's no real hook there, and
- 38:59Speaker 1: I felt like he gave us that hook on Friday
- 39:01Speaker 1: night as best as they can now. Later on in
- 39:06Speaker 1: the show, McIntyre was in the bag, Drew McIntyre. He
- 39:08Speaker 1: was talking to Logan Paul and he's telling him like,
- 39:11Speaker 1: this isn't twenty ten, this isn't Super Sena. You've got
- 39:16Speaker 1: to show him what you can do tonight, like you've
- 39:21Speaker 1: got to retaliate basically for what he just did to
- 39:23Speaker 1: you out there. And it was very interesting that McIntyre
- 39:26Speaker 1: was the one giving him this pep talk and saying
- 39:28Speaker 1: all these things about John Sena, because it felt to
- 39:30Speaker 1: me like they're planting the seed for a future match,
- 39:32Speaker 1: possibly between McIntyre and Sena. I don't want to say
- 39:36Speaker 1: McIntyre is going to be John Cena's retirement opponent, but
- 39:40Speaker 1: I definitely think he's he's you know, under consideration for that.
- 39:45Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Gunther and John Cena is
- 39:47Speaker 1: the match that I would like to see. But if
- 39:50Speaker 1: they went with Drew McIntyre, I mean, that works too.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Or maybe the answer lies in the list of names
- 39:55Speaker 1: that Sena rattled off, you know, against Logan last night
- 39:57Speaker 1: in the ring, all those people you know that he
- 40:00Speaker 1: he could be wrestling instead of Logan Paul again. He
- 40:02Speaker 1: named Dominic Mysterio and I don't think it's gonna be
- 40:04Speaker 1: domb but he named AJ Styles. I would love to
- 40:08Speaker 1: see another John Cena AJ Styles match. Do I see
- 40:11Speaker 1: that as his retirement match? I don't, But you know
- 40:15Speaker 1: who I could see Jacob Fatu. Jacob Fatu is another
- 40:18Speaker 1: name that he dropped, you know, and it's another baby
- 40:21Speaker 1: Face like aj Is. I don't think that would stop
- 40:24Speaker 1: them from doing Babyface against baby Face and seeing his
- 40:27Speaker 1: retirement match. But Jacob Fatu maybe is on that short
- 40:31Speaker 1: list as well of potential opponents. If you were to
- 40:33Speaker 1: ask me right now, who do I think is the favorite?
- 40:36Speaker 1: Or there's a list I don't even have, like a
- 40:39Speaker 1: top three. I have a top two of guys who
- 40:42Speaker 1: I would a love to see wrestle John Cena, and realistically,
- 40:45Speaker 1: I think it could be either one of them. It's
- 40:48Speaker 1: Gunther and Drew McIntyre. I really do. I think it's
- 40:51Speaker 1: probably gonna end up being one of those two, and
- 40:54Speaker 1: in either case, I'm okay with that. But after what
- 40:58Speaker 1: McIntyre said to Logan in the back, it led to
- 41:01Speaker 1: the closing segment of the show on Friday, which was
- 41:04Speaker 1: nick All this rushing out. As Sena was leaving, nick
- 41:07Speaker 1: All this rushes over to him and says, I just
- 41:09Speaker 1: got off the phone with Brocklesner, and before he could
- 41:12Speaker 1: tell Sena whatever it is that he was going to
- 41:14Speaker 1: tell him, Logan Paul flies in with the right hand
- 41:17Speaker 1: and a knockout shot that missed by a good six
- 41:20Speaker 1: inches because this man was being very careful not to
- 41:23Speaker 1: really punch John Cena in the jaw. Probably has that
- 41:26Speaker 1: jaw insured for his next movie. But I was watching
- 41:30Speaker 1: it on International Netflix with the VPN, so I saw
- 41:33Speaker 1: it live in the afternoon on Friday, and then I
- 41:35Speaker 1: saw that when it aired on USA later that night,
- 41:37Speaker 1: it was it looked bad enough, and they recognized that
- 41:41Speaker 1: it looked bad enough from that angle that they actually
- 41:43Speaker 1: reshot the entire scene. And this wasn't just the same
- 41:47Speaker 1: scene from a different angle, like this was a completely
- 41:49Speaker 1: different scene. They just reshot it afterwards, this time from
- 41:53Speaker 1: a different perspective, so it didn't look as bad. But
- 41:56Speaker 1: he left John Cena laying, which I think he kind
- 41:59Speaker 1: of had to do to get that heat back. I
- 42:00Speaker 1: know they have one more SmackDown before clash in Paris,
- 42:03Speaker 1: but you know, whether it was last night or whether
- 42:06Speaker 1: it was next week, Logan getting his heat back in
- 42:09Speaker 1: some way makes sense because I just don't see him
- 42:12Speaker 1: going over here. I've got John Cena beating Logan Paul,
- 42:16Speaker 1: and then we have seth Rollins in the main event
- 42:19Speaker 1: defending the world heavyweight Championship against CM Punk, La Knight
- 42:23Speaker 1: and jay Usso. Rollins just cashed in to win the
- 42:27Speaker 1: title at Summerslim. No matter how hard they try to
- 42:32Speaker 1: sell us on his title being in jeopardy because it's
- 42:35Speaker 1: three other men and he doesn't have to be pinned
- 42:38Speaker 1: to lose the championship, it's a tough sell because no
- 42:42Speaker 1: one sees him dropping that title here. If Punk gets
- 42:46Speaker 1: the belt back, it won't be until WrestleMania. La Knight
- 42:49Speaker 1: winning the title just doesn't seem realistic anymore. And jay
- 42:53Speaker 1: Usso shouldn't even be in this match. I don't even
- 42:57Speaker 1: think he's in the match to eat the pin. I
- 42:59Speaker 1: think that's why Night is in there. Who gets the
- 43:02Speaker 1: next shot though, at wrestle Palooza or at Crown Jewel
- 43:06Speaker 1: That I don't know, could be Punk again. I mean,
- 43:09Speaker 1: it's the feud that'll never die. But one thing I
- 43:12Speaker 1: can tell you is that Seth Rollins is walking in
- 43:14Speaker 1: as the World Heavyweight Champion too Paris, and he will
- 43:16Speaker 1: be leaving as the World Heavyweight Champion. Seth Rollins will
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- 45:45Speaker 1: dot Com slash fifty solo Monster. Chris Jericho was in
- 45:50Speaker 1: the news this week, and not because he is scheduled
- 45:53Speaker 1: to be back soon on AW Television. He may never
- 45:56Speaker 1: be back on AW Television ever again, if these reports
- 45:59Speaker 1: are to be believed. Jericho has not been in the
- 46:02Speaker 1: ring since losing the Ring of Honor World Championship to
- 46:05Speaker 1: Bandido at Dynasty back in April and the following Dynamite,
- 46:10Speaker 1: where he told Big Bill and Brian Keith that he
- 46:12Speaker 1: was disappointed in them and until they changed that it's
- 46:16Speaker 1: best that he leaves. That was the last time we
- 46:19Speaker 1: saw him. The real reason that he left was Twofold
- 46:22Speaker 1: number one. He had a Fozzy tour coming up. That
- 46:25Speaker 1: tour ran through the middle of May number two. It
- 46:28Speaker 1: was reported at the time that Jericho felt his character
- 46:30Speaker 1: needed a reset and it would be best to take
- 46:33Speaker 1: himself off TV for a while, which was absolutely needed.
- 46:37Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was as stale as a month
- 46:39Speaker 1: old loaf of bread. Now it's been four months since
- 46:43Speaker 1: he's been seen on TV and there's a lot of
- 46:45Speaker 1: chatter about his aw contract, which is due to expire
- 46:48Speaker 1: the end of this year. Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer
- 46:52Speaker 1: Radio said, Jericho's actually a really big story. His contract
- 46:57Speaker 1: is up at the end of the year or late
- 46:58Speaker 1: in the year. There's certainly been lots and lots of
- 47:01Speaker 1: talk about WWE. I know, from a WWE standpoint, there
- 47:05Speaker 1: is lots of talk there about Jericho, you know, people
- 47:08Speaker 1: speculating royal rumble. Nobody has officially said anything, nor will
- 47:12Speaker 1: anyone officially say anything. So that's from Dave. Fightful followed
- 47:18Speaker 1: out with their own report on Wednesday that confirmed Jericho
- 47:22Speaker 1: is signed with AW until the end of twenty twenty five,
- 47:25Speaker 1: so he still has many months left on his deal.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Big Bill and Brian Keith are no longer listed as
- 47:31Speaker 1: part of the Learning Tree. The WWE rumors started up
- 47:36Speaker 1: after Jericho liked an Instagram post from somebody suggesting a
- 47:39Speaker 1: WWE return. That's really what got all this started. And
- 47:43Speaker 1: Jericho's very good at being able to kind of read
- 47:46Speaker 1: the room and know how to get people to talk
- 47:49Speaker 1: about him, and all it took was one liked Instagram
- 47:53Speaker 1: post and social media just got set ablaze with all
- 47:56Speaker 1: kinds of rumors and conspiracy theories and fantasy booking scenarios
- 48:01Speaker 1: about a Royal Rumble retired and a wrestle Radia retard,
- 48:04Speaker 1: like all these things that started really all from that
- 48:07Speaker 1: one thing. But the Fightful report also said that one
- 48:11Speaker 1: WWE higher up said Jericho is on good terms with
- 48:14Speaker 1: the company. The boys from Wressell Votes Radio have said
- 48:18Speaker 1: we can confirm after speaking to our sources, that there
- 48:21Speaker 1: is significant interest in Chris Jericho coming back to WWE
- 48:25Speaker 1: once his AW contract would allow him to do so.
- 48:29Speaker 1: We're told that several within WWE, including active talent, would
- 48:33Speaker 1: like to see him return. Despite spending the last six
- 48:36Speaker 1: years with AAW, Jericho has remained friendly with the number
- 48:39Speaker 1: of people inside WWE, we are told, and according to
- 48:43Speaker 1: that source, they ultimately do expect a deal to be
- 48:45Speaker 1: completed once Chris is legally able to do so. I
- 48:50Speaker 1: am still not convinced that this is not going to
- 48:53Speaker 1: end up being more of a way for Jericho to
- 48:55Speaker 1: leverage even more money out of Tony Khan for a
- 48:57Speaker 1: new deal, and it would be very smart of him
- 49:00Speaker 1: to do so, you know, if he does want to
- 49:02Speaker 1: stay with AW, how do you maximize your value with
- 49:06Speaker 1: your deal coming up by teasing a return to WWE.
- 49:10Speaker 1: When Randy Orton's contract was coming up for expiration in
- 49:13Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he used AW, which was only first starting
- 49:17Speaker 1: up at the time. He used AW as leverage to
- 49:20Speaker 1: get himself a better deal and a lot more money
- 49:22Speaker 1: to stay with WWE. It's smart business. Jericho could well
- 49:27Speaker 1: be doing the same thing here right, liking a post
- 49:30Speaker 1: here and there, or if he starts dropping cryptic teases,
- 49:34Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't want to leave. But we don't even
- 49:38Speaker 1: know for sure that Tony Kah cares enough to keep
- 49:40Speaker 1: him around if he's effectively going to be bidding against himself.
- 49:45Speaker 1: You know, Jericho's an interesting case because he has done
- 49:48Speaker 1: so much in his career. He's reinvented himself multiple times.
- 49:53Speaker 1: He's gone through different character transformations and has been more
- 49:57Speaker 1: successful than not with it. But this most recent with
- 50:00Speaker 1: the Learning Tree stuff like it just it really felt
- 50:03Speaker 1: like the bloom was finally off the rows. If we're
- 50:06Speaker 1: being honest. It's been that way for a while now,
- 50:09Speaker 1: even before the Learning Tree. But no one can deny
- 50:12Speaker 1: his importance to AW when that company was first getting
- 50:15Speaker 1: off the ground. I mean more than Cody Rhoades, more
- 50:17Speaker 1: than the Young Bucks, more than Kenny Omega. The Jericho
- 50:21Speaker 1: signing in twenty nineteen was Tony Kahn's most important signing
- 50:24Speaker 1: for that launch. He was able to sign away a
- 50:29Speaker 1: major name from WWE, an established name on television that
- 50:34Speaker 1: people knew, with a proven track record of success on
- 50:37Speaker 1: the national stage. It's why I said at the time
- 50:39Speaker 1: when it was Jericho against Hangman Page to crown the
- 50:41Speaker 1: first aw World champion, that Jericho was the logical choice.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Hangman was not established yet and Jericho was right put
- 50:49Speaker 1: the belt on Jericho. It's a face that people watching
- 50:53Speaker 1: on TNT would instantly recognize if they're any kind of
- 50:56Speaker 1: real wrestling fan. And then from there you could build
- 50:59Speaker 1: your new stars up, up guys like Hangman in Darby
- 51:02Speaker 1: and MJF and Sammy Gavara. And there was value in
- 51:06Speaker 1: Jericho forming the inner circle and surrounding himself with younger
- 51:10Speaker 1: talent that he could try to elevate Sammy Gavarre that
- 51:13Speaker 1: he benefited from it to a degree. Sammy had his
- 51:16Speaker 1: own issues that killed his momentum there for a while.
- 51:19Speaker 1: Jake Hager and Santana and ortize it actually got to
- 51:23Speaker 1: a point where Santana and Ortiz they were wasting away
- 51:26Speaker 1: his background players to Jericho, like that stuff was going
- 51:29Speaker 1: on for so long and there was no upward mobility
- 51:31Speaker 1: for them that it was actually working against them, Like
- 51:35Speaker 1: how much did it really help those guys like Hagar
- 51:38Speaker 1: and Santana and Ortiz, like in the big picture, not much.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Then it was the Jericho Appreciation Society and they threw
- 51:48Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia in there, and Matt Monard and Angelo Parker,
- 51:51Speaker 1: two guys that WWE got rid of Jericho. Threw them
- 51:55Speaker 1: a lifeline, two fellow Canadians. Daniel Garcia. There was potential
- 52:00Speaker 1: there with him and Jericho in the ROH title and
- 52:03Speaker 1: there was an obvious story which they teased and they
- 52:06Speaker 1: never explored it after the big swerve they did. You know,
- 52:11Speaker 1: I can understand trying to get him to show more
- 52:13Speaker 1: personality instead of just being the great technical wrestler and saying, okay,
- 52:18Speaker 1: you know what, instead of having him in the Blackpool
- 52:19Speaker 1: Combat Club, will have him in the Jericho Appreciation Society,
- 52:22Speaker 1: and he'll know he came up with that silly dance
- 52:25Speaker 1: that got over for a minute, but he probably should
- 52:28Speaker 1: have ended up in the Blackpool Combat Club with Brian Danielson.
- 52:32Speaker 1: Then came the Learning Tree, which seemed to be building
- 52:35Speaker 1: to a split with him and Big Bill and an
- 52:37Speaker 1: eventual match between the two of them, and then Jericho
- 52:40Speaker 1: went on hiatus, and now we're never getting that blowoff
- 52:43Speaker 1: with Jericho and Big Bill because even if Jericho comes back,
- 52:46Speaker 1: it looks like the Learning Tree stuff is just over.
- 52:50Speaker 1: If he comes back, it'll be something completely new. You know.
- 52:55Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for working with Orange Cassidy and
- 52:57Speaker 1: putting him over, because oc he did come out of
- 53:00Speaker 1: that better off than he went into it. But for
- 53:02Speaker 1: so many others, this is why it became a running joke,
- 53:06Speaker 1: the Jericho vortex. It's a real thing. And I don't
- 53:10Speaker 1: mean that in a good way. You know, he would
- 53:13Speaker 1: work with guys like Ricky Starks, and work with a
- 53:17Speaker 1: guy like Action Andretti and a Hook and even put
- 53:21Speaker 1: some of them over in the end, But how many
- 53:24Speaker 1: of them were truly elevated by working with Jericho? How
- 53:28Speaker 1: many of them came out of those feuds and those
- 53:30Speaker 1: programs better off coming out of them. You can't put
- 53:35Speaker 1: all of that on Jericho. A lot of it is
- 53:37Speaker 1: also the booking and Tony Kahan's inability to follow up
- 53:40Speaker 1: with them in any kind of meaningful way. He gets
- 53:42Speaker 1: blamed for it too, But even Jericho's program with someone
- 53:46Speaker 1: like Adam Cole or the stuff he did with Eddie Kingston,
- 53:50Speaker 1: it was to their detriment. Like I remember, Eddie Kingston
- 53:54Speaker 1: and Chris Jericho had a really good matchup Revolution a
- 53:56Speaker 1: few years ago, but after that it just dragged on
- 54:00Speaker 1: endlessly for months and months. And the question needs to
- 54:05Speaker 1: be asked, what value does Chris Jericho bring to AW
- 54:09Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty five. You know, the answer
- 54:13Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen was a lot, a lot of value.
- 54:17Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, not so much. You know, we
- 54:20Speaker 1: helped get the company off the ground and they're secure
- 54:23Speaker 1: for the time being. They got their six hundred million
- 54:25Speaker 1: dollar media rights deal. You know, Jericho does not move
- 54:29Speaker 1: the needle for them anymore. He hasn't for a long time.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Tony Kahn put the Ring of Honor World Championship on
- 54:35Speaker 1: him twice with the idea that it might help them
- 54:39Speaker 1: secure a television deal for Ring of Honor, and that
- 54:41Speaker 1: never materialized. In the ring, with the right opponent, he
- 54:46Speaker 1: can still have a solid match. I mean, like that
- 54:48Speaker 1: last one he had with Bandido, right, and how much
- 54:50Speaker 1: of that was Bandido. Bandido is awesome, but I mean
- 54:53Speaker 1: those are few and far between these days. He's fifty
- 54:57Speaker 1: four years old now, and he looks at when he's
- 54:59Speaker 1: in the ring. Outside of being a veteran presence behind
- 55:04Speaker 1: the scenes and helping out in that capacity, I don't
- 55:06Speaker 1: see where he brings any value to the aw product anymore,
- 55:10Speaker 1: not on camera, and he won't move the needle for
- 55:13Speaker 1: WWE either outside of that initial return, and that's really
- 55:17Speaker 1: his best bet at this point. If he goes back
- 55:20Speaker 1: to WWE, it's going to generate a lot of excitement
- 55:22Speaker 1: initially because it's been almost a decade since the last
- 55:25Speaker 1: time we saw him on their TV, and there are
- 55:28Speaker 1: a lot of WWE fans that don't watch aaw So
- 55:32Speaker 1: Chris Jericho shows up all of a sudden as a surprise,
- 55:35Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, where's he been. Chris Jericho's back.
- 55:38Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in eight years. Right. The last
- 55:41Speaker 1: time he wrestled for WWE was the Greatest Royal Rumble,
- 55:44Speaker 1: And think about that, that was the very first Saudi
- 55:46Speaker 1: Arabia show that they ever did. They've done a lot
- 55:50Speaker 1: more since then. They say absence makes the heart grow
- 55:54Speaker 1: fonder and also nostalgia. It's a hell of a drug.
- 55:59Speaker 1: So prize Royal Rumble return would be something I could
- 56:04Speaker 1: see happening, and that would be something that would generate
- 56:06Speaker 1: a lot of reaction. Funny enough, if he did make
- 56:09Speaker 1: a surprise Royal Rumble return next year, the Royal Rumble
- 56:13Speaker 1: is in Saudi Arabia, which is the last place that
- 56:16Speaker 1: we saw him working in the ring for WWE. But
- 56:19Speaker 1: like a surprise Rumble return, a Hall of Fame induction
- 56:22Speaker 1: is inevitable. And then a part time schedule that would
- 56:25Speaker 1: be the way to go with Jericho and WWE. When
- 56:28Speaker 1: I say part time, I'm talking no more than half
- 56:30Speaker 1: a dozen PL matches and working some international tours. That's it.
- 56:37Speaker 1: That's it, that's all it needs to be. So there
- 56:41Speaker 1: is value in him having one last run there, but
- 56:44Speaker 1: less is more with him at this point in aaw
- 56:47Speaker 1: He just overstayed his welcome. But there are other considerations.
- 56:52Speaker 1: If you're Jericho, he has outside projects. He's got his
- 56:55Speaker 1: podcast talk as Jericho. What happens with that? You know,
- 57:00Speaker 1: WWE's been building up their own podcast network. Do they
- 57:03Speaker 1: just add his show to their lineup. Did they take
- 57:06Speaker 1: ownership of that? I mean, Undertaker ditched his old co
- 57:09Speaker 1: host Matt and dropped him like a bad habit to
- 57:11Speaker 1: take the check from WWE and replace Matt with his
- 57:14Speaker 1: wife as his co host, Cody Rhoades. He's got his podcast,
- 57:19Speaker 1: Stephanie McMahon has her podcast, So I mean, I could
- 57:22Speaker 1: see Jericho's landing there. But that's not all he has.
- 57:26Speaker 1: He has the Jericho Cruise, which he's been doing since
- 57:29Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He's got another one schedule for November of
- 57:34Speaker 1: next year. He took the cruise idea originally to WWE.
- 57:39Speaker 1: He took it to Triple H but they shot it down.
- 57:42Speaker 1: He wanted to get some WWE talents on the tour
- 57:45Speaker 1: on the cruise, and they basically told him, in so
- 57:47Speaker 1: many words, the fuck off. Once AW started up, he
- 57:50Speaker 1: was able to get all these AW stars to come
- 57:53Speaker 1: on the boat and do live matches. I mean, look
- 57:56Speaker 1: at the talent lineup for the most recent cruise. Will
- 57:59Speaker 1: osper Tony Storm, Bobby Lashley, MVP, Takeshta Ricochet, and like
- 58:07Speaker 1: twenty others, seventy five percent of the AW roster ended
- 58:10Speaker 1: up on that cruise. If he goes back to WWE,
- 58:13Speaker 1: he's not going to be getting aw talents on that
- 58:15Speaker 1: cruise anymore. He's going to lose access to all of
- 58:19Speaker 1: those people. Would WWE work with him and allow him
- 58:24Speaker 1: to book their talents on the cruise and get legends
- 58:26Speaker 1: booked on the cruise? Probably not, none of the big
- 58:30Speaker 1: names anyway. I mean, look, admittedly it's a little bit
- 58:34Speaker 1: different when Dynamite airs on a Wednesday in the middle
- 58:37Speaker 1: of the week. You know, WWE's got smacked down on Fridays,
- 58:40Speaker 1: they got raw on Mondays. I think the cruise usually
- 58:43Speaker 1: takes off on a Thursday, comes back on a Monday.
- 58:46Speaker 1: So no, you're not going to have access to you know,
- 58:49Speaker 1: that many big name talents. Does the cruse go away?
- 58:54Speaker 1: Does he want to continue to do it? Is he
- 58:56Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice it just to go back to WWE.
- 58:59Speaker 1: What about Fazi? He's got another tour scheduled in the
- 59:03Speaker 1: UK next February, right back in the middle of Royal
- 59:05Speaker 1: Rumble season, an Elimination Chamber season. So all that to say,
- 59:11Speaker 1: you know, for Jericho, he's got a lot to think
- 59:13Speaker 1: about because even if he's just part time, he's got
- 59:17Speaker 1: a lot on his plate that he doesn't necessarily want
- 59:19Speaker 1: to give up. Vince McMahon is not there anymore, maybe
- 59:24Speaker 1: they would be more willing to work with him now,
- 59:27Speaker 1: But in his mind, maybe it's easier to sign with
- 59:30Speaker 1: Tony for more money for another two or three years.
- 59:34Speaker 1: Take the money and just be able to do all
- 59:35Speaker 1: these other ancillary things that he's doing. Does Tony Kahn
- 59:39Speaker 1: want to keep Chris Jericho? That's the other question here.
- 59:42Speaker 1: I cannot imagine personally. I cannot imagine that he would
- 59:45Speaker 1: not make a play to keep Chris Jericho. Chris Jericho
- 59:48Speaker 1: is the first ever aw world champion. Tony loves Jericho.
- 59:53Speaker 1: Would he really just let him walk without trying to
- 59:56Speaker 1: keep him? I highly doubt that so, so it may
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: come down to that as much as anything. How far
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: is Tony willing to go to keep Jericho at a
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: time when Jericho has less value to him in ring
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: than he ever has in the six years that he's
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: been with the company. Is he willing to break the
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: bank Ocatta style to keep Chris Jericho, even if it's
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: just to keep him from going back to WWE, or
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: does Tony see things the same way that he's gotten
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: all that he can out of Jericho, and it's time
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: to move on peacefully, respectfully, without any drama. Basically the
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: opposite of how Cody Rhoades left and how Cmpunk left.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: There's no need to burn any bridges here. Does he
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: let him walk or not without a fight. One thing
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: about Jericho, I will give the man his flowers. I
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: may not have been much of a fan the last
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: few years, but whatever he does, his body of work
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: and what he has been able to achieve in his
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: career over the course of thirty plus years is among
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: the greatest careers that anybody has ever had in the
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: history of the business. He made money and he found
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: success everywhere. He went from ECW to WCW, to WWE
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: to New Japan to AW, all of them. Tony Kahn
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: has said he credit to the match that Jericho had
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: with Kenny Omega at the Tokyo Dome as the inspiration
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: for starting AW because that match did big box office
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: and it confirmed to him that there was a market
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: outside of WWE for pro wrestling that was not being
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: serviced at the time. So he's had a very blessed
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: career and I know he's still having fun and he
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: has no plans to quit anytime soon, That's what he said.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: But there's a right way and a wrong way to
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: use Chris Jericho, and whether he stays or whether he goes,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: whoever he works for, I hope they're smart enough to
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: know the difference between right and wrong. Forbidden Door is
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: tomorrow from the two arena in London. At Wembley, they
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: get the bigger crowds and it's an outdoor stadium. This
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: is not They're going to be back at Wembley next year,
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: but there gonna end up sold out here with over
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: seventeen thousand fans in an indoor arena where it should
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: be very loud and very energetic. Whatever you want to
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: say about their domestic attendance, and it's not great. They
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: don't have any of those same struggles in the UK
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: since they don't run there as often, so these shows
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: always make them feel major league. It's you know, it's funny.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: I was talking to my brother earlier today actually and
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, tomorrow, I'm going to be watching
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: Forbidden Door the middle of the day, and he because
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: he doesn't watched aw week to week, he's aware of it,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: but he doesn't watch it. So he looked at the
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: roster and he was appalled by how many titles there are.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: Like he saw Okada was the unified champion, and he
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: assumed that he must be the top champion in the company.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: So I had to explain to him why he's not
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: and how the whole unified title situation works. And then
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: he asked about Mercelle and all of her belts, and
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: I just gave up. I just I just said, you
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: know what, this is a lost cause, but just an
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: interesting perspective there from someone who is casual at best
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: when it comes to aw But here's the card as
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: it currently stands. This doesn't account for any pre show
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Zero Hour matches that they're going to add, undoubtedly, because
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: Zero Hour starts either at eleven am or eleven thirty am.
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: The main card starts at one pm Eastern. Kyle Fletcher
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: defends the TNT Championship against Hiromu Takahashi of New Japan.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: That will be a win for Kyle Fletcher IWGP World
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Heavyweight Championship on the line. Zach Saber Junior defends against
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Nigel McGinnis, who will have Daniel Garcia in his corner.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia was one of the men that Nigel beat
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: out in the four way match on Collision last week
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: to earn the shot, and Danny looked very frustrated and
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: upset when he lost. Nigel looks thended the invitation for
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: him to be in his corner. He accepted. I have
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: questions about Daniel Garcia and what his motivations will be here.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I think we're headed for a Daniel Garcia heel turn potentially,
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: whether it costs Nigel the match or it comes after
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: the match. Nigel either way is not winning the title.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: It's cool to see him in this spot and getting
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: a shot in London. But Zach Saber Junior will leave
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: still the IWGP champion, no doubt about that. Mercedes Monet
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: defends her TBS Women's Championship in a four way match
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: against Alex Winza representing aw, Persephone representing CMLL, and Bozilla
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: representing Stardom. And I said, you know with Bosilla, I
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: said it on Wednesday. They've got a German wrestler representing
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: a Japanese company on a British event being hosted by
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: an American company, and she is someone who is very young.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: She's only twenty not a lot of experience, not a
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: lot of time in stardom. She's been there barely two months.
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: We didn't even know who was going to be in
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: the match until they put the graphic up on the
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: screen on Wednesday telling us, oh, Bozilla will be in there.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: And I can imagine some people watching this going, who
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: the fuck is Bozilla? Well, you'll find out on Sunday
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: because she's going to be in the four way match.
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: She has no shot of winning, but she'll be in
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: the four way match. Yeah, there is no way that
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: Mercedes is losing her title here. There's absolutely no way.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: And Mercedes, by the way, is now Mercedes nine belts.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: She won her ninth championship. There's a Rev Pro show
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: on Friday night, and she won her ninth title and
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: only the TBS title on the line here, though, no
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: way she's losing, No way she should be losing. She's
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: getting very close to beating Jade Cargill as the longest
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: reigning TBS champion of all time. There's no reason to
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: think that Tony would do anything to jeopardize that at
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: this point or take the title off of her before then.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: So Mercedes will win. We have the aw World Tag
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: team titles on the line. The Hurt Syndicate, Bobby Lashley
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: and Shelton Benjamin defend in a three way match for
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: the second pay per view in a row. They did
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: the same shit at all in Texas. They're doing it
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: again here three way match against FTR and Brodido, the
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: team of Brody King and Bendido. They had the finals
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: of this tournament on Wednesday to crown number one contenders.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Brodido and FTR went to a thirty minute draw. That
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: is how this ended up as a three way match.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: And there have also been a lot of stories of late,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: a lot of rumors, a lot of reports about the
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: Hurt Syndicate and or MVP specifically not liking pitches for
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: his team to drop their titles to FTR. And this
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: has come from multiple places. Now right. I saw the
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Fightful mention something about this about a week or so ago.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: I think there's smoke to the fire, and I've already
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: commented on how I feel about that, and it really
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: should not be anyone's decision. But Tony Kahn, who I
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: think has been more than generous with the way that
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: he has booked and presented the Hurt syndicate on television
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: for the entire year now that they have held those
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: tag team titles, and Tony has another story in mind,
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: and that story involves FTR winning the titles and going
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: to Toronto next month. And if Tony Khan wants FTR,
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: for example, to win the tag team titles, or Brodido
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: or anybody else, then that's exactly what should happen, regardless
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: of how the Hurt syndicate, regardless of how MVP feels
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: about it. And yet now amidst all of these reports,
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: this turns into a three way match, and I can't
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: help but sit here and wonder if that has a
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: little something to do with these reports that we've heard about.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: But then I read on their Twitter and I didn't
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: realize this until yesterday because they didn't say a damn
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: word about this on television. But apparently this is an
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: elimination match. This is not even a traditional three way
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: like the one that we had in Texas. This is
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: an elimin nation match. So it makes me wonder, will
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: they have Brodido shock the world and bounce Lashly and
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: Benjamin out first so that guarantees that we're gonna have
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: new tag team champions and then from there have FTR
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: pin Brodido to win the titles. So that way FTR
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: does not pin Shelton, Benjamin or Bobby Lashley. I'm sitting
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: here trying to imagine Dax or Cash pinning Bobby Lashley.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: I can't see it. I just don't. I don't see Shelton. Maybe, yes, maybe,
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: but I don't see it happening with Bobby Lashley. And
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: it may not happen at all. It may not happen
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: with them at all, because it may well be that
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: the Hurt Syndicate will lose, but they'll lose to Brodido,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: and then Brodido loses to FTR. Either way, I'm picking
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: FTR to win the tag team titles. Here in this match,
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Adam Copeland and Christian Cage, they have a reunited boy
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: that was quick. He has a little rush, doesn't it.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: But they reunited and they're going to be taking it well.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: They were supposed to take on Nick Wayne and Kip
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: Sabe and representing the Patriarchy or now I guess it
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: would be the Matriarchy. And then on Wednesday, Nick Wayne
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: was on the tron and he had crutches and he
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: was not there in Glasgow with everybody else, and he
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: said that he had a broken foot. And he said
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: that it happened to the segment the week before where
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: Christian came at him with that spike board with the
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: nails in it and in dodging him and weaving out
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: of the way. I mean, I went back and I
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: watched that segment. He was moving around fine even after
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: he got out of the rings. I don't know exactly
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: where the broken foot happened. I don't know how badly
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: the foot is broken, but apparently it is a legitimate injury.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: He has a broken foot. I don't know what that
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: means for his Ring of Honor television title, but at best,
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: without surgery, he's probably going to be out a good
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: eight to ten weeks or worse if he needs surgery.
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: And Dustin Roajes just had double knee replacement surgery and
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: he's got two belts in Ring of Honor. He's the
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Ring of Honor Tag team champion and one third of
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: the six man champions. So I don't know what the
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: title situation is gonna look like in Ring of Honor,
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: if they're going to crown new champions or not. It's
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: Ring of honor. I mean, does anybody even care. You
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: may as well just keep the belts on them. I
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: don't even think anybody'll notice. But since Nick Wayne is
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: unable to compete, he's not medically cleared, he tapped a replacement,
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: and that replacement is the returning Lucasaurus or a kill switch.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: I guess he's still being called kill switch came out.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: We haven't seen the dinosaur in almost a year, and
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: it was really good to see him because there were
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: some reports about his health situation earlier in the year
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: that were very, very scary, and I talked about this
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: in the Dynamite Review on Wednesday. You know, he collapsed
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: in his home late last year. I think his fiance
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: found him, and he had no ammonia in both of
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: his lungs. He was having breathing issues. It was blood
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: oxygen level was like eighty or something. It was. It
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: was scary. It was touch and go there for a while,
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and at the very least there were questions about whether
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: or not he even be able to get back in
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: the ring. But there he was, and he looked like,
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: you know, the old Lucasaurus and he's going to take
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: Nick Wayne's place. In this match. It doesn't change the
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: outcome here Copeland and Christian they almost have to win
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: anyway if they're going to be getting a tag team
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: title match at all out, if that's where we're headed
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: with this challenging FTR. But it would be foolish to
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: beat them anyway. And it is going to be their
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: first match as tag team partners in fourteen years. Fourteen years.
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: This is the reunion that Tony kh has been dying
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: to do, and probably the two of them have been
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: dying to do. And I said it was rushed. We've
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: seen this. I think a lot of us who watched
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: the show pretty much figured this was going to be
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: the inevitable direction. We just didn't know when they were
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: going to actually pull the trigger and do it. When
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: they did it a couple of weeks ago, it felt
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: very sudden. I was not expecting it to happen on
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: that show. I wasn't even expecting it to happen necessarily
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: before Forbidden Door. Maybe at Forbidden Door, like doing the
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: hug and the reunion at Forbidden Door actually would have
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: made more sense. You would have had a much bigger
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: hot crowd for I mean, they had eleven hundred people
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: in the fucking building when they did this big reunion
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: between Edge and Christian on TV a couple of weeks ago.
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: If you would have done it a forbidden door, you
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: would have had seventeen thousand rabid UK fans there on
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: a major pay per view who would have gone nuts
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: for that. And then you saved their first match together
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: for all out. Whether it's for the titles or not
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: isn't even really relevant. But there they were a couple
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: of weeks ago, maybe it was Cincinnati, I think, in
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: front of eleven hundred people, and they did the hug
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: and it looked like Christian was a little resistant to it.
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: So I said, we really need some kind of an
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: explanation here about what's going on. We got to get
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: these two in the ring together. They were in the
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: ring with Tony Shavani on Wednesday, and it was Christian's explanation.
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: He said that it's not a case where things are
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: suddenly good between the two of them, but they decided
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: it's kind of like a you scratch my back, I'll
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: scratch yours. The enemy of my enemy is my friend
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: type of situation where he agreed to help Copeland with
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: his FTR problem, and Copeland has agreed to help him
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: with his patriarchy problem. So they have this mutual agreement
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: with each other. Not that they're best buds again, but
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: you know what, we have some issues here. I need
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: your help, you need mine, so let's come together. I
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: at least appreciated they try to rationally explain it, like,
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: I think that's a fine explanation. This is not the
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: way that I would have done all of this, but
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: at least it was an explanation that you can make
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: sense of. And here's the other thing about it that
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: I like. Christian wasn't really acting any differently, and Copeland
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: even said he's an asshole. But he's asshole. So we
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: kind of get the best of both worlds here because
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: for the people who wanted to see a Copeland and
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: Christian reunion, we're getting it without having to change Christian
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: too much from the Christian that he has been. Christian
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: is a baby face just feels wrong. I'm sorry. I
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: don't want to see Christian as a babyface yet. I mean,
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: he's been doing this, you know, the Heel Act and
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: the Father's stuff now for a few years, and I
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: think there's other ways that you can evolve it beyond
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: just the you know your father is dead stuff. But
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: Christian is just such a natural prick. He's just naturally
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: hate herble, just a great heel, and I don't think
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: you should stray too far from that. And if the
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: fans are gonna cheer, let him share it. But I
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: don't think you should stray far from the Christian that
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: we get on TV now just because oh he's with Copeland,
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: so he has to be a babyface, Like I don't
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: subscribe to that. So this is their way of sort
- 1:14:58Speaker 1: of you're getting your cake and eating. Not a doubt
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: in my mind though, that Copeland and Christian are going
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: to win this match. Then we have Kazuchka Okada defending
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: the Unified Championship against Swerve Strickland. Swerve is going into
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: this match with a legitimate knee injury, which would explain
- 1:15:18Speaker 1: why he hasn't wrestled the match since July twenty third.
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: Per Fightful, he has been working with a torn meniscus
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: in his knee for the last six years, not weeks,
- 1:15:33Speaker 1: not months. Years. It's an injury that he suffered back
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen when he was still at the WWE
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: Performance Center. I don't know why this is all of
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: a sudden an issue now if he's been working on
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: it for six years. Evidently he aggravated the injury, and
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: there's no word on whether or not he'll be having
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: surgery to repair the issue after the pay per view.
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: Tony Kahan has tapped into the Jacksonville Jaguars medical staff
- 1:15:58Speaker 1: to help him through this injury. But now they've got
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: their built in excuse for when he loses this match
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: to Okada, which he will, and Okada will retain the
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: Unified Championship. I don't know if that's going to play
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: certain limitations upon Swerve and what he can do in
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: this match, because I think with both guys healthy, this
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: could be a really good match. If Swerve is not
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy, which obviously he isn't, I don't
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: know how that affects the match. If it's mostly him
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: just selling the knee, that could be very boring. We'll
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: see what kind of match they have. The long term
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: play here, even if Swerve was one hundred percent healthy,
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: he should not win the championship. The long term play
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: here needs to be Okada and Takeshta. I don't know
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: when I don't know if they do it at the
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: next pay per view. I don't know if they do
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: it at World's End or Full Gear or early twenty
- 1:16:44Speaker 1: twenty six. I don't know what's gonna happen with Takeshta
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: and the IWGP title because he just won the g
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: One Climax and he said that he wants to win
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: the championship before the Tokyo Do. He wants to go
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: into the Tokyo Do as the champion. I don't really
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: see them doing anything with him in Okada if that's
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: the case until he drops that title. But he hasn't.
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: He hasn't won that title yet, so we'll see what
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: happens there. But to me, that's the long term play.
- 1:17:12Speaker 1: The aw Women's World Championship is on the line. Timeless
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: Tony Storm defends against Athena Athena one the tag team
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: main event on Dynamite Wednesday night. She was teaming with
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: Mercedes against Tony Storm and Alex Windsor. She's also still
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor Women's World Champion, And as I
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: see it, there is only room for one belt collector
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: gimmick at a time in this company, and that belongs
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: to Mercedes. As I mentioned earlier, Mercedes just won her
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: ninth belt. On Friday, She beat Emerson Jane at the
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: Rev Pro show to win the Discovery Wrestling Scottish Women's Championship.
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: Discovery Wrestling apparently is a thing. I wonder how many
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: of these nine titles that she has are actually active times,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: because I feel like not all of them are active titles,
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: like maybe six or seven of them maybe, But she's
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: got nine belts. Now, what an absolute nightmare that has
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: to be to go through the airport like airport security
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: every week with those things, because I think she brings
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: them all with her everywhere she goes, like all these shows.
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: I don't care if she has clear I don't care
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: if she has tsa pre check, like it doesn't matter.
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: That's got to be a fucking nightmare everywhere that woman goes.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: As far as Tony Storm and Athena, I don't see
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: Athena winning the championship. This is Athena cashing in her
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: Casino Gauntlet contract that she won in Texas. She called
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: her shot in advance, and I just don't see her
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: winning the championship. I just don't see it, especially after
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: she won that main event on Wednesday. I'm like, yeah,
- 1:18:49Speaker 1: she's not winning that title. Hangman Adam Page defends the
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: AW World Championship against MJFF got Hangman on Wednesday to
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: agree to three new stipulations for their match, with some
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: help from Ricochet. In the Gates of Agony, they kidnapped
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: and tortured Mark Briscoe and MJF threatened to set the
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: man on fire. He poured gasoline on him. He had
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: a match. He was ready to set him a blaze
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: should Hangman not agree to his conditions, and as agreed to,
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: the AW World Championship now can change hands via count
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: out via disqualification. I think Triple H just got a
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: little tingle up his spine when I mentioned that word.
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: And also, MJF is no longer using his Casino Gauntlet
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: contract for a guaranteed title match, meaning MJF if he
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: loses this match, he still will have the contract as
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: a backup. He will still have it as an insurance
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: policy that he can cash in at any time, even
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: that night, if he chooses to do so. I don't
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: think he will not that night, and since he still
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: has the contract, that doesn't make any sense for him
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: to win the championship, since with that make that would
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: be dumb. So I got Hangman retaining. The only question
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: is do you see Mark brisco get some revenge. Yeah,
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: I've been saying I could see Mark Briscoe getting involved
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: and trying to stop MJF from using the dynamite Diamond ring.
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: Do they do some sort of shock finish where a
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Mark Briscoe gets involved and it backfires and because he
- 1:20:21Speaker 1: gets you know, Hangman gets disqualified. That's how he loses
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: the title. What a lame fucking way, by the way
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: for him to lose a championship that would be I
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: just can't see it. I just can't see it happening. So,
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: however it goes down, I got Hangman retaining that title.
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: MJF will live to fight another day. He can cash
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: in that contract some other time. And then this is
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: the match that I think they may possibly be closing
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: the show with. They've certainly done this before with these
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: types of matches. It is unsanctioned. It is a lights
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: out ten men, five on five steel cage match with
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: Will Osprey, Darby, Allen Kenny, ome Koda Ibushi, and the
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: Ace Hiroshi Tanahashi taking on John Moxley, Claudio Castignoli, Gabe Kidd,
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: and The Young Bucks. On Dynamite, Osprey talked about how
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: he wasn't medically cleared to wrestle in this match, but
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: since it's unsanctioned, he knows the risks and he's wrestling anyway,
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: and obviously he is medically clear. That's part of the story.
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: He strongly implied that he was getting next surgery sometime
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: after this show, and he said, if there's a chance
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: that he can't be the same, well, Osprey after Sunday,
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: before doctors take a scalpel to my neck, I'm leaving
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: it all out there now. He previously revealed that he
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: has two herniated disks that are pressing on his spinal cord.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: Pw Insider has confirmed. I mean, it seemed pretty obvious,
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: but for the people who just think everything's a fucking work,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: PW Insider confirmed, this is not a work. This is
- 1:21:54Speaker 1: a very legitimate injury and he is absolutely looking to
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: have next surgery in the near future now. Osprey spoke
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: to Sports Illustrated this week and he said, I am compromised.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: I've got a few herniated disks pushing against my spinal cord.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: Which is affecting a couple of my nerves. But I
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: can do stuff, and I can perform one last time
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: before I need to go get it all corrected. I
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: got told, after all in that I was going to
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: need to rest and take some time off to see
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: how this is going to go. And then the MRIs
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: came back, and I got told that this is worse
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: than what we thought it was going to be, but
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: that it's manageable. It's absolutely fine. The surgeon even told
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: me that it's not going to get any worse, it
- 1:22:35Speaker 1: just needs to be corrected. I love how he says
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: in one breath, I got my MRIs back and it
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: was worse than expected, and then at the next he
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: says it's absolutely fine. Clearly it's not absolutely fine, but
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: I get what he's saying. It's the Cody Rhodes thing right,
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: wrestling with a torn peck inside hell and a cell.
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: It can't get any worse. So if you can tolerate
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: the pain, we'll let you wrestle. And that was a
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: torn peck, though these are discs in his neck that
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: are pushing up against his spinal cord. Wrestlers, man, they
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: are a different breed, but He also told CBS Sports
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: that he is terrified of the surgery. He said, I'm anxious.
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: I'm scared generally, I'm terrified not about the match, but
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: just about afterwards. I don't know what it looks like afterwards,
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: because for the first time in my life, I have
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: been disqualified from doing the thing that I love doing.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: I've never had anybody cut into me. I've never had surgery.
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: I've never broken a bone other than my nose, which
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: everyone can tell because it looks like I've been hit
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: by a frying pan. If I think too much about it,
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: I'll fucking cry. I think humor is honestly the best
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: way I can lighten the mood in this type of situation.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: For the first time in my life, I have to
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: realize that this is something serious, and I don't know
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: how to navigate those emotions. And on the fans being
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: concerned for his safety in the match tomorrow, he said,
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: I understand they're worried. They hear this type of shit
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: and they're going this sounds bad. But what people need
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: to remember is that I've been doing this for ten
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: months now at the highest level. Nobody can tell me
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: that I haven't been doing this at the highest level.
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: I've been working at my best. I know what I'm
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: capable of. I know what I can do, I know
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: what I can't do. Most importantly, the medics know what
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: I can and can't do. The surgeon knows what I
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: can and can't do. And the most important thing is
- 1:24:24Speaker 1: that my safety is utmost guaranteed. I can guarantee my
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: safety in this. I'll make it through. When I heard
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: what the procedure is that I'll be doing, I heard
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: other wrestlers have had this and they haven't come back
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: the same. So if there's even the smallest chance that
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the same after this match
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: and after the surgery, then I need to for myself,
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: for my pride, I need to go out there and
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: be me. I might have to kiss this part of
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: my high flying offense goodbye. Now. It's something that I'm
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: not ready to let go. I'll be honest with you.
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: I'm not ready to let go of that side of
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: me because I think that should be done on my terms.
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: I don't know if that's on the card. So I've
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: got to hope that after this I can still pick
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: up where I left off. But if not, all the
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: greats have done it, Juice and thunder Liger's done it.
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: Aj Styles has done it. I call myself the Billy
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: goat for a reason. I think I can adapt. Look,
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: I trust that he's got people looking out for him.
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: It's bad enough if Swerve ends up needing knee surgery,
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: losing Swerve and Osprey, he's going to be a big
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: body blow to the baby face side of that roster,
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: and Osprey is too important to them to be taking
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: any kind of unnecessary risks. I don't know what this
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: procedure is that he's talking about, if he's if it's
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: some sort of fusion, or if it's something less serious.
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: If it's the former, he's gone for a year. If
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: it's the latter, yeah, like kind of what Kurt Angle
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: had done after his WrestleMania match with brock Lesner. He
- 1:25:52Speaker 1: could be back in a few months. So it all
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: depends on what type of surgery he ends up getting.
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: I just I cannot see him getting medically cleared for
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: this if he needs a fucking fusion. So maybe it
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: isn't quite that serious. But even will Osprey, it's seventy
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: five percent is better than a lot of wrestlers at
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Now, originally I was going with Team
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: Ospray for the win. I am changing my prediction. I
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: am going with the Heels to win this match. I
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: just think it makes more sense with Osprey going in hurt.
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: Tanahashi has the jelly knees, and if the goal is
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: to get a Moxley Darby match at all out, then
- 1:26:30Speaker 1: I think the Heel should probably go over here, and
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: that's the card as it stands. There's not a lot
- 1:26:36Speaker 1: about this show that screams Forbidden Door. I would say
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: this is the weakest of all the Forbidden Door shows
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: they've ever done, if you're really into the inter promotional
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: aspect or seeing stars from New Japan and CMLL. Tony
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Kahan did acknowledge that it was challenging putting the car
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: together this year because normally they do these shows before
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: the g One climax, and this year they ended up
- 1:26:56Speaker 1: doing it right after, so they didn't have access to
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: a lot of those talents, so they had to make
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: the best of a not so great situation. It should
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: go back to normal next year with this show in
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: June and all in back in August at Wembley. I
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: don't think there's a need to even do these shows anymore,
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: except that they're going to sell it out with seventeen
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: thousand people and do one of the biggest gate numbers
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: in the history of the company. So he really doesn't
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: have a good reason to stop doing them until people
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: stop buying tickets. Other news and notes, the Undertaker and
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: Mike Tyson are both in talks to appear on an
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: Indian reality show. Big Boss, hosted by actor producer Salman Khan,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: is entering its nineteenth season and features celebrities living together
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: in a house while being filmed twenty four hours a day.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: Contestants are eliminated through tasks, nominations, and audience votes. According
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: to multiple Indian outlets, including The Times of India, Undertaker
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: is expected to be one of the three wildcard entries
- 1:27:58Speaker 1: this season. The show began filming in Mumbai on Friday,
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: and it is rumored that Undertaker will stay in the
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: house for between seven and ten days, so basically it's
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: like Legend's House. Another WWE Hall of Famer, Mike Tyson,
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: has also been rumored as a potential wildcard entrant. Big
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: Boss has not officially confirmed either name. The Great Collie
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: was previously a wildcard entry on the show's fourth season
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: in twenty ten. He advanced to the finals before finishing
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: as a runner up. Man. You know, the Undertaker has
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: been keeping very busy in his retirement. If you would
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: have told me that, we would be living in a
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: world where not only is the Undertaker a podcast host,
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: but the Undertaker was apparently helping run the show behind
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: the scenes at Triple Mania in Mexico City last week,
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: and now he might appear on an Indian reality TV show.
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: I would have told you maybe the fake Undertake would
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: be doing that, but not the real Undertaker. But here
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: we go, here we are. I don't know if this
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: is actually gonna happen or now, but it sounds like
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: conversations are taking place. So he's keeping busy in his retirement.
- 1:29:13Speaker 1: As long as it keeps him out of the ring,
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: then that's fine. There has been yet another update in
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: the death of Hulk Hogan, and this story just took
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: a very dark turn. Hulk's daughter Brooke and his former
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: best friend Bubba the Love Sponge have been very vocal
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: these last few weeks about the suspicious nature in their
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: view of the circumstances. Around Hogan's death and their desire
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: to see an autopsy performed before Hulk's wife has him cremated,
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: which still has not happened yet. Brooke has even offered
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: to pay for the autopsy herself and the results. She says,
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: they don't need to be made public whatever they find.
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: They could just keep it private, but they would know
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: then exactly what happened and just be at peace with it.
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: On Wednesday, Brooke took to her Instagram and made a
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: bombshell claim that she has been contacted by people in
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: the know legitimate phone calls from authorities in the know
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: about her dad's death that she needs to ask. This
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: is them telling her you need to ask questions about
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: body camera footage and the nine to one one tapes
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: from that day. So these are people who could get
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: into serious trouble, she says, if they are outed as
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: sharing this information. But they have told her that those
- 1:30:26Speaker 1: tapes could potentially shed enough light to change the narrative
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: around her father's death. She said she's still being frozen
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: out by Hulk's wife's sky from gaining access to any
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: of the materials that she's being told to try to
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: get her hands on. This is what she posted. Here's
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: all I know, she said, so stop speculating and stop asking.
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: I've one hundred percent gotten legit calls from professionals, from
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: police officials to nurses that were supposedly with my dad
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: on the day of his death, telling me that I
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: need to see bodycam footage and I need to get
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: a hold of the nine to one one tapes because
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: they support contained information that could potentially shed enough light
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: to change the narrative that we I and everyone has
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: been hearing. Those same professionals feel so passionately about the
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: what they witness that they have continued to contact me
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: and push me to find specific answers to this very day.
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: They are quite literally putting their careers at risk because
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: they feel so compelled to do the right thing. I
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: have zero control, I cannot do anything. My hands are tied,
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: and I have no say in anything regarding my dad,
- 1:31:28Speaker 1: even as his daughter. Those are the rules that I've
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: been told. I do not have any information on if
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: or when he is being cremated. Could have been right
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: after he died, could be tomorrow, I don't know. I
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: have been told by my brother that there will be
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: an autopsy. I do not know who will be performing
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: the autopsy. Any information I received from an autopsy, if
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: one happens, whether I believe it or not, I will
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: be keeping private out of respect for my father. I
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: have to trust that my brother is doing his best
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: to get answers. At the end of the day, answers
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: would be great, but none of it brings my dad back.
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: And my hands are tied. So please stop misquoting, speculating,
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: and asking me if I know anything. I cannot get
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: any information. I know you would think that I could
- 1:32:13Speaker 1: being his blood, but I can't. We are already dealing
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: with enough. I will not be talking about this mystery anymore.
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: That was on Wednesday. Then on Thursday, TMZ broke the
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: news Hulk hogan cause of death may be medical malpractice.
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: Who remembers that Dustin Rhodes tweet that he posted right
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: after Hogan died. It's a little more eerie now looking
- 1:32:39Speaker 1: back at it. Posted a tweet that he quickly deleted
- 1:32:43Speaker 1: saying that hospitals kill people. They really do. I really
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: mean that it was something to that effect. This is
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: the TMZ story. Hulk Hogan may have been the victim
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: of medical malpractice. Malpractice that may have cost him his life.
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: This according to sources connected to the death case, law
- 1:32:59Speaker 1: and hforsement. Sources tell TMZ Sports. The Clearwater PD police
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: report regarding the nine to one one response the Hulk's
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: home the day he died says that an occupational therapist
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: was present at the Wrestling Legends Florida residence when he
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: stopped breathing. According to the report, which is on lockdown,
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: the therapist told responding officers Hulk was the victim of
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: medical malpractice. The therapist says during a recent operation. It's
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: unclear if it was the surgery to repair his heart
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: or a neck procedure, the surgeon severed, quote unquote severed
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: his frenic nerve. The frenic nerve stimulates the diaphragm, which
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: controls breathing. Our sources say Hulk did not have a
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: chest clenching episode before his passing. Rather, he merely stopped breathing.
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: We're told it was his wife, Sky who sounded the
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: alarm when his breath halted, and that's when the nine
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: to one one call was made. We're also told there
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: were conversations among the officers at the scene where they
- 1:33:55Speaker 1: talked about what the therapist had told them, and this
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: is on bodycam. It's a fair assumption the conversation between
- 1:34:01Speaker 1: the occupational therapists and the officers is also on body cam.
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: Hulk's daughter Brooke has called for an autopsy. As of
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: a week ago, we were told Hulk's body was not
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: yet cremated, but we have not gotten any clarity of
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: cremation has taken place. Hogan's widow, Sky later confirmed the
- 1:34:17Speaker 1: TMZ Sports that Hogan's frenic nerve was compromised during one
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: of his recent surgery. She added that an autopsy on
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: Hogan has been done, but declined to reveal its results,
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: so unless she changes her mind, we will never know
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: for sure what the autopsy actually revealed. She also said
- 1:34:34Speaker 1: Hogan's body has not yet been cremated. From what I
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: can gather, there's actually two frenic nerves in the body,
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: a left one and a right one, and they start
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: up in your neck and they run down through your chest,
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: past your heart and your lungs and into your diaphragm.
- 1:34:52Speaker 1: They don't say during which surgery this would have happened,
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: assuming he's had multiple surgeries in the last few months,
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: but the one that he originally went in for for
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: his neck was back in mid May, and he had
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: not been heard from since then or seen on video
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: or anything, which leads me to believe that whatever happened,
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: it happened during that surgery. The Clearwater Police Department later
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: issued the following statement to TMZ. We have been in
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: communication with family members, including his son Nick and daughter Brooke.
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: The unique nature of this case has required us to
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: interview multiple witnesses and seek medical records from a variety
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: of providers, and our detectives continue to do that. All
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: of this takes time. The Hogan family has been appreciative
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: of our efforts and our communication with them. If there
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: was medical valpractice involved, that's going to be one hell
- 1:35:43Speaker 1: of a lawsuit. But this it just reminds me. You
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: hear malpractice celebrity, and I know we just had the
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: Matthew Perry death, but it makes me think of Michael Jackson.
- 1:35:58Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's death which was ruled a homicide due to
- 1:36:02Speaker 1: an overdose of propofol, which is a really powerful anesthetic
- 1:36:06Speaker 1: that's typically used during surgery. Michael Jackson was using it
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: to help himself sleep the way people take fucking ambient,
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: which is not its intended usage, and his doctor was
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: convicted and sent to prison for a couple of years
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: four years, but he got out in two Any sound
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: off Oge's listening to this, remember me talking about his
- 1:36:29Speaker 1: death at the time and the media circus around it.
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: I mean, that's some old schools sound off right there.
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: This isn't exactly the same thing, but malpractice or negligence,
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: that's a serious thing all the same, you know, especially
- 1:36:41Speaker 1: if it led to someone's death. So I don't know
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: what the autopsy showed or if they intend to pursue
- 1:36:46Speaker 1: this any further. Evidently there are people directly connected to
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: the situation who wanted his daughter to push for all
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: of these things that she has no power to push for.
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: So if there is something suspicious going on here, and
- 1:36:57Speaker 1: it sure feels that way, it looks like a man
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: up dying with Hogan. The Hollywood Reporter put out its
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: list ranking the top ten pro wrestlers turned actors, and
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: there have been many wrestlers that have dipped their toe
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: in the Hollywood pool over the years. Some have been
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: more successful than others. Macho Man Randy Savage will forever
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: be known and by a generation of non fans as
- 1:37:23Speaker 1: non wrestling fans. That is as bon Saw McGraw from
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: Spider Man. They're not going to look at him and go, hey,
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: that's the macho man. They're gonna be like, hey, that's
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: bone Saw. Whatever happened to that guy. They also used
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: his voice for an episode of Space Ghost. He played
- 1:37:37Speaker 1: Space Ghost's grandfather. But beyond that, you know, he did
- 1:37:41Speaker 1: a bunch of voiceovers and that's about it. Terry Funk.
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: You know, he did Roadhouse and Paradise Alley Stone Cold.
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: He did a bunch of B movies like The Condemned
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: and Hunt to Kill. But he also had roles in
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: The Expendables in the Longest Yard, so did Goldberg. He
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: was in the Longest Yard. He was in Sand to
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: Slay in that one Universal Soldier movie. Chris Jericho's done
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: some B level horror movies. MJF right now is going
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: around gloating about being in Happy Gilmore too. There's lots
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: of wrestlers that have been in movies, But who are
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: the best ones. Well, let's see what they had to say,
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: and I'll chime in here with my own. At number
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: ten on the list, they have Andre the Giant. Andre
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: literally did two movies in his life, and one of
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: them he was in a giant monster suit and he
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: wasn't even credited in the movie. You never saw his
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: face and he had no dialogue that was in Conan
- 1:38:42Speaker 1: the Destroyer, the role that he's most known for, is
- 1:38:45Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all time. I watched
- 1:38:49Speaker 1: it many many times when I was younger. The Princess Bride.
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: Andre played Fasick Fasick the Giant, and he was perfect
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: for the role. And honestly, it's such a memorable movie.
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: I would have him up higher on my list. I mean,
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: they have Adam Copeland on their list at number five.
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: I can honestly say I have never seen a damn
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: thing that Copeland has been in outside of wrestling. I've
- 1:39:13Speaker 1: heard he was good on that Viking show, you know,
- 1:39:16Speaker 1: and he did that other show Haven. I mean, he
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: could be a great actor for all I know that,
- 1:39:20Speaker 1: but there isn't a single thing that he's done in
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: his acting career that is as memorable or that people
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: talk about like they do Andre in The Prince's Bride.
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: They have Jesse Ventura at number nine on their list.
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: Predator is the role he's most known for. Running Man
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: Demolition Man. He had a small part as a guard
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: remember in Batman and Robin. He's not a great actor.
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these guys are not great actors,
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: but he's not a great actor. That's as far as
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: his acting career went, as far as movies. And again
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: I should point out like as we go along here
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: we're talking movies, we're not really talking TV shows. But
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: I think he went on to do a right for himself.
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: So you know, number nine sounds sounds about right. Number
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: eight is the Big Show Paul White. To me, he
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: will always be Captain Insano in the Water Boy and
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: Giant Santa. Can't forget Giant Santa and Jingle All the Way.
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: Jingle All the Way is a great movie, by the way,
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: if you've never seen it. And I just realized, you know, Schwarzenegger, Man,
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: he has shared the screen with a lot of wrestlers,
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: hasn't he, Man, Jesse Ventura, Big Show, Andre stone Cold,
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: I remember the Big Show Show that didn't last very long,
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: but that's TV. Then they have Hulk Hogan at number seven,
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: and the author makes the point that without Hulk Hogan
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: in Hollywood first, there would be no Rock or John
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: Cena doing movies, Yes and no. If your point is
- 1:40:55Speaker 1: that Hogan's success in wrestling paved the way for wrestling
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: to become hot the way that it was, and that
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: led to people like Rock and John Cena having the
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: chance to eventually become big stars like in wrestling, then
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: sure you could argue that. But the idea that Hogan
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: dabbling in Hollywood and failing is the reason that the
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: door got kicked kind of kicked open for guys like
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: Rock and Sena, I think that's giving him too much credit.
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: You know, Rock was a charismatic guy. I mean he
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: still is. But Rock's a charismatic guy, very successful in wrestling.
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: Hollywood would have come calling for him regardless, Same with
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: John Cena, same with Roman Reigns right now, right, you
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: think Street Fighters the only movie he's going to be in.
- 1:41:39Speaker 1: You don't think he's gonna get bigger roles or not
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: get bigger roles in the future. Of course he is.
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: Hogan was doing Suburban Commando and Mister Nanny. Okay, him
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: doing those movies has little to do with their success.
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: Hogan's biggest role with Thunderlips and Rocky Three, which he
- 1:41:55Speaker 1: has always claimed that he was fired for for taking
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: the role by Vince mcma and Vince told him that
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: you'll never be welcomed back if you say yes and
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: do this movie, even though he was already doing jobs
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: on his way out of the territory. It's like it's
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: it's it's a Hogan story, so you have to take
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt, you know, whether that's
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: actually true or not. He's told that story for just
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: years and years and years, But it's like the story
- 1:42:19Speaker 1: he's told for years of hero Matt Suda breaking his
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: ankle on purpose during training when he was trying to
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: become a wrestler, and Matt Suda supposedly broke his ankle
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: on purpose to try to run him off, but then
- 1:42:31Speaker 1: when he healed up right, Hogan valiantly came back. He
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: showed up again, and he proved that he was serious
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: about wanting to be a wrestler. Like even Brian Blair,
- 1:42:41Speaker 1: who started his career with Hogan and stayed friends with
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: him for all these years, has said, like, what really
- 1:42:47Speaker 1: happened is that Hogan sprained his ankle by accident one
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: day and he missed a few classes, Like you know,
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: he ended up spitting it into some heroic comeback story
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: of the evil veteran breaking his ankle, Like it's just
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: Hogan being Hogan, but like Andre with the Princess Bride,
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: Hogan has thunderlips. It wasn't just his first movie role.
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: It was his defining movie role, right, it was his
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: most memorable movie role. No Holds bart is a guilty
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: pleasure of mine. Okay, I'm not gonna sit here and
- 1:43:17Speaker 1: tell you it's a great movie. It's not a great movie,
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: but I owned the DVD. I've watched it many times.
- 1:43:22Speaker 1: I still enjoy the movie. Suburban Commando is another one.
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: I can go back and enjoy that one too. And
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: I got a kick out of his cameo in Gremlins
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: Gremlins two. Remember he was sitting in the movie theater.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: At one point, he's in his gear. He's got the
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: bandana on, he's got the winged eagle belt around his waist.
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: He's eating popcorn, and the usher is like, he's got
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: the flashlight and he's going row by row and he's
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: looking for someone and he finds Hogan and he goes
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: over to Hogan and I'm sorry to bother you, but
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: like we've got Gremlins in the projection room and then
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: Hogan stands up and he turns and he cuts this
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: promo on the Gremlins. Like that was great. That was
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: a memory moment. That was a memorable role for him.
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: Nobody will ever mistake Hulk Hogan for being a master thespian.
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: Him being on this list, yes, he should be on
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: the list. They have him here. What they put him
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: at number seven? I think, yes, they have him at
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: number seven. That sounds about right. I would not have
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: him in the top five. Kevin esh is number six.
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about legendary roles, Come on now,
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: Super Shredder in Teenage Mutant Ninja, Turtles Too, The Secret
- 1:44:31Speaker 1: of the Ooze. Unless you grew up during that time,
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: you have no idea how big of a deal Super
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: Shredder was. Like in the movie, he's on screen for
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: ninety seconds and he ends up committing suicide. But he
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: brings that whole that doc that wouldn't dock down on
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: the Turtles and he ends up killing himself, Like they're turtles, dude,
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: what did you think was going to happen? But he
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: was the Russian in that Punisher movie with Thomas Jane.
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: He was in the Longest Yard. A lot of wrestlers were.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: He was in the Magic Mike movies, which I never saw,
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: but I know that was kind of a big deal
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: for a while. And then he did a B level
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: horror movie. My god, he did this movie called River
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: of Darkness that I saw years ago with Kurt Angle.
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: Kurt Angle is the star. He plays a sheriff in
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: some po dunk town. He's killing zombies. Kevin Nash and
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: Psycho Sid play two of the zombies. So if you
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: ever want to see undead Kevin Nash and Sid Vicious
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: in a movie with Kurt Angle, I think glaciers in
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: that movie too. River of Darkness. I cannot recommend it.
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and recommend it to you,
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: but that's that's the name of the movie. And then
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: he did some awful movie about a COVID nineteen outbreak
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: or something. I mean, it was a payday, so Nash
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: is not going to say no. Then we get into
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: the top five. Number five is Adam Cope. Again, I
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: cannot speak to him because I have not seen anything
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: that he has been in. And then we get into
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: the top four, and I agree with their top four.
- 1:46:10Speaker 1: Number four is rowdy Roddy Piper. Piper did a little
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: movie in nineteen eighty six called Body Slam with Dirk
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: Benedict from the A Team that I very much enjoyed.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: Piper's tag team partner in the movie is Sam Fatu,
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: the Tonga kid who is the father of one Jacob Fatu.
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: After that, he did a movie called Hell Comes to Frogtown,
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: which was terrible. I'm sorry, I know for some people
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: that's a cult classic. It's a terrible movie. And then
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: he did They Live, which is the opposite of terrible.
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: It is a great movie. It has become a cult
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: classic over the years for a reason. I'm a mark
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: anyway for almost anything John Carpenter does. But this became
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: the defining role of Piper's film career with one of
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: the greatest fight scenes that you will ever with him
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: and Keith David. Piper didn't need to film anything else
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: after this, not It's always Sonny nothing. This will forever
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: be what Roddy Piper is known for outside of wrestling.
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: Number three is John Cena, Number two is Dwayne the
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: Rock Johnson, and the number one wrestler turned movie star
- 1:47:28Speaker 1: is Dave Bautista. And I agree with that one hundred percent.
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: If this was purely a box office list, then Rock
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: would be number one. Rock would be one, Sena would
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: probably be too. Batista throw all though Batista did the
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy stuff, eh Sena would probably be
- 1:47:47Speaker 1: too and Batista would be three. So if you're going
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: purely based on box office receipts, then the top three
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: would look a little bit different. But Rock is not
- 1:47:56Speaker 1: a better actor than Batista. John Cena is not a
- 1:47:59Speaker 1: better actor than Batista. Batista has shown more acting range
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: than either one of them, more so than Rock, who
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: plays the same character in almost everything he's in. And
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: I'm not even saying he's bad. I've enjoyed a lot
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: of Rock's films. I mean, look, I even like Doom.
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: I may be the only one. That movie came out
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. I liked it Walking Tall,
- 1:48:22Speaker 1: Gridiron Gang Snitch that doesn't get talked about. Snitch was
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: a good movie. But those were before he really blew
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: up and started doing these big budget blockbusters. But you
- 1:48:33Speaker 1: watch Batista in a movie like House of the Rising Sun,
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: and then you watch him as Drax and Guardians of
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: the Galaxy, and then you go watch him in Bushwick,
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: and then go watch him in a comedy like Stubor
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: I went to the theater to see that, and then
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: go watch him in a movie like Knock at the Cabin,
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: which was that m Night Shyamalan movie. These are all
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: very different roles. And by the way, he was the
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: best part of that Knock at the Cabin movie. He
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: played this character Leonard. He was great. He's very versatile
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: as an actor. I don't know if any of those
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: three will ever win an Academy Award, but I could
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: totally see Batista doing some kind of art house type
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: film one day and that nets him at least a nomination.
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: Although I will say there's chatter that Rock actually might
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: get a nomination, an Oscar nomination for the movie that's
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: coming out I think in October he did on Mark
- 1:49:25Speaker 1: Kerr The Smashing Machine. It's possible. It's possible he could
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: actually get an Oscar nod for that. But like, I
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: could totally see Batista doing an art house type film
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: and then you know, being nominated for an Academy Award.
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: So I think they nailed it with the Top four.
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: You could flip flop Rock and see his spots and
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that, but Batista is the best
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: wrestler turned actor. Let's take some mailbag questions. You could
- 1:49:50Speaker 1: always email me the Solemn Monster at gmail dot com.
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: Please include your name or where you are from when
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: you write in. I want to start here with Mike
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: in Binghamton, New York. And this isn't really a question,
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: but it was a nice email that I got, and
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: a nice note on Ron Killings as well. Says first
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: time writing into the mailbag, I stumbled upon your podcast
- 1:50:11Speaker 1: a few years ago and was instantly hooked. I wanted
- 1:50:14Speaker 1: to start off by saying that you are one of
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: the best wrestling media pages in the entire business. I
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: appreciate you covering wrestling like a reporter and not just
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: a fan who shows bias. Your tone and approach should
- 1:50:26Speaker 1: be modeled by others, and it's refreshing to hear someone
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: who not only knows what they're talking about, but also
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: presents this information with news style analysis. And your interviews
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: are outstanding, not just a fan marking out with talent.
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: Kudos to you and the great work that you do. Mike.
- 1:50:42Speaker 1: That means a lot, it really does. I appreciate that.
- 1:50:45Speaker 1: But he says, I wanted to write up a quick
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: shout out to Ron our Truth killings. He did a
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: meet and greet at the Speedy Fest in Binghamton, New York,
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: earlier this month. He was genuine and spent so much
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: time talking with fans before absolutely killing it on stage
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: for his music concert. I hope they do a little
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: more with him as a tweener. He's a great character
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: and an even better guy. We've heard all year about
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: John Cena getting his flowers. Our Truth deserves some love too.
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. Yeah, Our Truth is great,
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: and you mentioned you look forward to seeing more of
- 1:51:18Speaker 1: him as a tweener, and that doesn't look like it's
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: going to happen. And so that's that's the shame of it,
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: which is that it looked like they were finally allowing
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: him to take his character in a different direction, and
- 1:51:30Speaker 1: then because they abandoned the John Cena heel turn and
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: wrap that up, it's like, well, we got goofy Our
- 1:51:35Speaker 1: Truth back doing nothing but comedy. And I think there's
- 1:51:37Speaker 1: a lot of potential there that I hope that they
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: can explore, but it's not looking good. But yeah, I mean,
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: look all the things I've ever heard about Our Truth.
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: When he does, you know, appearances, meet and greets and
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: interacts with fans. It's all positive. You know, he's awesome.
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: There's a reason why he has stood the test of time.
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: He is timeless in many ways. He certainly doesn't look
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: his age. I don't know how much longer he intends
- 1:52:01Speaker 1: to do this for, but you know, he looks like
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: he can go into the twenty years if he wants
- 1:52:06Speaker 1: to so. Yes, Our Truth is great. Dane from Saint Louis.
- 1:52:12Speaker 1: This is just something I came across. It's a story
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: about Paramount possibly planning to buy Warner Brothers if this
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: does happen. Any thoughts on how this could impact wrestling
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: in the larger sense, given the TKO owned UFC just
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: signed a multi billion dollar deal with Paramount and TKO
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: has WWE under its umbrella. First of all, this is
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: just a rumor right now. It is not one that
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: I see as having a lot of legs, at least
- 1:52:41Speaker 1: not yet. Could this be something maybe in a few
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: years possibly, but I don't think Paramount is buying Warner
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: Brothers anytime in the near future. I could see why
- 1:52:50Speaker 1: they might want to, you know, if you if you
- 1:52:53Speaker 1: combine their streaming subscribers, it would make them the number
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: two streamer in the world behind Netflix. Disney is merging
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: Hulu into its Disney Plus service at the end of
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: the year, so if you combine those two subscriber bases,
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: it puts them in the same ballpark, but it's still
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: a little bit less than what Paramount Plus and HBO
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: Max would make up. You've got two movie studios in
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: Paramount and Warner Brothers. I don't know why they need
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: to be merged together, and you know, to be merged
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: together into one giant studio, which is what I assume
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: would happen here, because why maintain two separate studios. So
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't happen. If it does, how it
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: would affect AW since they have a big media rights
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: deal with Warner Brothers Discovery and Paramount is in business
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: with TKO. The honest answer is I don't know, and
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: neither does anyone else. You know which company would they
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: be acquiring because Warner Brothers Discovery is splitting into two
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: companies next year, one for streaming in their movie studio
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: and the other one for their linear networks, So think
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: TNT and TBS is it just one or the other
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: or is it both. If it's both, why even by
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: they're splitting them into two companies in the first place,
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: because aw is on HBO Max two. So either way
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: it could affect them, probably not in a good way,
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: but no one really knows. It depends on exactly what's
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: being acquired. But this is where these mergers and these
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: acquisitions can become very messy. It's like, sure, one way
- 1:54:18Speaker 1: to look at it is if streaming services get merged together,
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: that would in theory, cut down on the number of
- 1:54:24Speaker 1: subscriptions that you would need, like if you're the consumer.
- 1:54:27Speaker 1: But it also creates less competition and fewer options, which
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: is why it might make business sense for these companies.
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: But I don't see all of this consolidation being a
- 1:54:35Speaker 1: good thing for you and me, and we're seeing a
- 1:54:38Speaker 1: lot of it these days. Jose from New York City.
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: Do you agree that this year has been the worst
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: year of Tripleh's era and his best era so far
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: has been Summer Slam twenty twenty two all the way
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: to wrestle Mania of forty. Yes, this year has certainly
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: been the most boring. I will agree with you on that.
- 1:55:00Speaker 1: Christopher from Pensacola, Florida. There have been three men to
- 1:55:03Speaker 1: win King of the Ring, Royal Rumble and Money in
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: the Bank, Edge, Seamus, and Brock Lesnar buy Sell and
- 1:55:11Speaker 1: rent on their overall wrestling careers. I'm going to buy
- 1:55:17Speaker 1: on Brock. I feel like that's an easy one. I
- 1:55:20Speaker 1: know Edge has accomplished a lot in his career. I
- 1:55:23Speaker 1: Brock's got to be on top. So Brock is who
- 1:55:27Speaker 1: I'm going to buy on. I'm gonna rent on Edge,
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sell on Shamus. Jordan from Washington, d C.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: Buy Sell and rent on who had the best wrestling
- 1:55:41Speaker 1: career out of these three Jeff Hardy, RVD and seth Rawlins.
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: That's not really a fair question since two of the
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: three are still active on a regular basis. I mean,
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: I guess from the other question, I guess Brock and
- 1:55:57Speaker 1: Seamus and Edge are all active too, but I wouldn't
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: necessar early say full time. But like, it's hard to
- 1:56:03Speaker 1: answer questions like this because these people are still active.
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: But as I sit here now, I have to buy
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: on seth Rawlins as having the best career of the three.
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: I'm gonna rent on RVD and I'm gonna sell on
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: Jeff Hardy, which is gonna sound crazy, and there's gonna
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: be people who are gonna be fucking hanging from the
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: ceiling here trying to jump on top of me for this,
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: because look, Jeff is a big star, and he's an
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: influential name in the history of the business, no doubt
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: about it. But Jeff is someone who should have been
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: number one on this list, and through his own mistakes,
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: he's not. You know, Jeff is a class a what
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: if case. If he had his head on straight all
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: those years ago, how far could he have gone? How
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: big of a star truly could he have been. I mean,
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: I'm not saying he would have been John Cena or
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: Roman Reigns. I mean, but he could have been so
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: much more. He could have made so much more money,
- 1:56:56Speaker 1: He could have won more championships. He could have been
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: in seth Rollins spot, you know, cashing in his money
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: in the bank at WrestleMania to win the title. Headlining
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: WrestleMania's RVD. Has had success across multiple promotions ECWWWETNA. It's
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: won major titles in every single promotion that he's been in.
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: But it's a similar thing to Jeff where in WWE,
- 1:57:20Speaker 1: one mistake ruined what could have been a legendary run
- 1:57:24Speaker 1: for him. And were it not for politics, you know,
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: back in two thousand and two, he could have been
- 1:57:30Speaker 1: so much bigger than he was. Rollins had some success
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: in Ring of Honor, but he has spent the vast
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: majority of his career in one place. It just so
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: happens at the one place he spent most of his
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: career and is the biggest promotion in the world. And
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: he's conquered the mountaintop there several times over now, and
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: he was part of one of the great factions in
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: WWE history. And if you say the authority, I'm going
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: to punch you in the mouth. In terms of match quality,
- 1:57:57Speaker 1: I would put his resume up against either RVD or Jeff.
- 1:58:00Speaker 1: I mean, he's had a lot of great classic matches
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: over the year. So it really all depends on what
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: criteria you're going by here, But by all of those
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: key metrics I have to buy on Seth Rollins. Chris
- 1:58:13Speaker 1: from Bethlehem. I saw a reals clip from a guy
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: named Tom Green talking about how WCW's PN News got
- 1:58:21Speaker 1: slapped by Rick rud for stealing money from the locker room,
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: but then also got slapped for bragging about beating Rude
- 1:58:27Speaker 1: in an arm wrestling contest. Was pn news known for
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: stealing money from his fellow wrestlers, or was it that
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: Rude just didn't like him bragging about his arm wrestling win.
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: First of all, I don't believe for a second that
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: pn News beat Rick Rud in an arm wrestling contest. Okay,
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: so that's number one. Number two, the story goes that
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: a bunch of wrestlers got money and jewelry stolen out
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: of the locker room. I think it was a European
- 1:58:51Speaker 1: tour that WCW was on, and they accused PN news
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: of being the thief. He has claimed year later that
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: he had his money stolen too. He was also a
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: victim and it wasn't him. I have no idea if
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: he stole the money or not, but I know that
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: if I know that if I did steal the money,
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: I would say the same thing that he said, My
- 1:59:12Speaker 1: buddy was stolen too. That's exactly the sort of thing
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: that a thief would say. So I mean, who knows?
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: Who knows? You know? For a guy who's claim to
- 1:59:21Speaker 1: fame was the one year he spent in WCW in
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety one. I see things pop up about
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: PN news every now and again. He should be happy
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: people remember his name. Kent from Philadelphia. When would have
- 1:59:35Speaker 1: been the correct year and event to do the following
- 1:59:39Speaker 1: dream matches? And he lists a whole bunch of different
- 1:59:42Speaker 1: ones here. I shaved a couple of them off, but
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: I'll run through these real quick. Brack LESNAR against Steve Austin.
- 1:59:52Speaker 1: The correct year to do that would have been two
- 1:59:53Speaker 1: thousand and three, but Austin got hurt he had to
- 1:59:57Speaker 1: go away, but it would have been around had he
- 1:59:59Speaker 1: not gone away, that would have been that year. Shawn
- 2:00:02Speaker 1: Michaels against the Rock. I'm gonna also say two thousand
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: and three when he was Hollywood Rock. I think Hollywood
- 2:00:09Speaker 1: Rock against Shawn Michaels would have been awesome, or that
- 2:00:14Speaker 1: could have been the wrestle media magine in two thousand
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: and five had Rock not left. But then see, then
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: we wouldn't have gotten that Shawn Michael's curt Angle classic
- 2:00:23Speaker 1: from WrestleMania twenty one. So it worked out okay. But
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: I think two thousand and three or two thousand and
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: five Sting against the Undertaker. I'm gonna say nineteen ninety eight,
- 2:00:35Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, or twenty eleven. They could have done
- 2:00:39Speaker 1: it in twenty eleven. They didn't a lot of reasons
- 2:00:43Speaker 1: for that either of those two years. Goldberg against Steve
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: Austin nineteen ninety eight, there was no other good year
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: for it. Goldberg came into the WWE literally the night
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: after Austin wrestled his last match, and even if Austin
- 2:01:02Speaker 1: had not wrestled his last match that night, I don't
- 2:01:06Speaker 1: know that Goldberg and Austin in two thousand and three
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: would have had much appeal. Honestly, it was never gonna
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: happen in ninety eight, but if you were going to
- 2:01:14Speaker 1: do that match, it would have been ninety eight. Eddie
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: Guerrero against Sean Michaels. I think a good year to
- 2:01:22Speaker 1: do that would have been two thousand and four, Raymisterio
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: against Brett Hart nineteen ninety eight, Brett Hart against Hulk
- 2:01:33Speaker 1: Hogan WWF nineteen ninety three. Obviously, Brett Hart against Hollywood
- 2:01:40Speaker 1: Hogan WCW see. I don't look at that as much
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: of a dream match at that point, but if you
- 2:01:46Speaker 1: were going to do it, it should have been nineteen ninety eight.
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: I think they worked the house show match. Actually, it
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: might have been the ninety eight they worked the house
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: show match together in Los Angeles. I don't remember if
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: Hogan and Brett ever had a singles match on TV
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: brock Lesnar against Batista. See, I never saw that as
- 2:02:06Speaker 1: a dream match. But I'm gonna say twenty fourteen, when
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: Batista came back, Rick Flair against Hulkgan WWF nineteen ninety two,
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: and finally Ultimate Warrior against Brett Hart, that was never
- 2:02:25Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't care what Brett says he
- 2:02:28Speaker 1: was told in his book. I'm not even gonna I'm
- 2:02:30Speaker 1: not even gonna put a date on it because it
- 2:02:33Speaker 1: was never gonna happen and it never should have happened.
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: By the way, I have to say this, Kent didn't
- 2:02:42Speaker 1: leave a name with his email, so I went back
- 2:02:45Speaker 1: to see if he left it on a previous email,
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: And imagine my surprise when I see the last email
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: that I ever got from him was back in twenty seventeen,
- 2:02:56Speaker 1: and all it says is thanks for blocking me on
- 2:02:59Speaker 1: twit Twitter. Dickhead. It's okay. Just realize your podcast sucks too.
- 2:03:06Speaker 1: Much Internet smart bullshit anyway, have a nice life smart,
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: which just goes to show you that when people leave
- 2:03:14Speaker 1: comments like that on Twitter or on YouTube or in
- 2:03:19Speaker 1: this case, an email, I always say, more often than not,
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: they're still going to be listening, or if they stop,
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: they're going to come back. They got to get their fixed.
- 2:03:29Speaker 1: This is exhibit A. He called me a dickhead and
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: said my podcast sucks, but eight years later he's still listening.
- 2:03:38Speaker 1: They always do. Can't no hard feelings, brother, It's all good.
- 2:03:42Speaker 1: I just had to share that though, because it just
- 2:03:44Speaker 1: made me laugh. I wasn't expecting that. See, I'm like
- 2:03:48Speaker 1: a nicotine addiction. You can't quit me. You can't quit
- 2:03:51Speaker 1: me that easily. Actually, the sound off is the safest
- 2:03:53Speaker 1: addiction you can have. It's much safer than alcohol or tobacco.
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- 2:04:23Speaker 1: to get the sound off up a day early as well,
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: Episode nine twenty seven. That'll be on Saturday, because next
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: Sunday is Clash in Paris, So the schedule is a
- 2:04:33Speaker 1: bit up and down for the next week or so,
- 2:04:34Speaker 1: but then we'll be back to normal after that. So
- 2:04:37Speaker 1: until then, be well, stay stafe, have yourself. Is a
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: great rest of your weekend. And if you're watching, enjoy
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- 2:04:49Speaker 1: The Solemn Monster sounds on July twenty first with Stephanie
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: Vecaer and EO Scott and that match ended in a disqualification.
- 2:04:55Speaker 1: Then you fast forward to July twenty eight, we had
- 2:04:58Speaker 1: Jay Uso against Bronson Reid which ended in a disqualification.
- 2:05:01Speaker 1: August fourth, you had seth Rawlins one on one against
- 2:05:04Speaker 1: La Knight for the World Heavyweight Championship in a match
- 2:05:07Speaker 1: that ended in a disqualification. And then we arrived tonight
- 2:05:10Speaker 1: you'd see I'm punk in La Night against bron Breaker
- 2:05:13Speaker 1: and Bronson Reid, and wouldn't you know how did this
- 2:05:16Speaker 1: match end? It ended in a disqualification. As a match
- 2:05:19Speaker 1: it was fined. It was a good main event until
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: we hit the finish and then I realized. Boy, I
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: feel like I have suffered from deja vu. It almost
- 2:05:26Speaker 1: feels like I've seen this before. It's almost like I'm
- 2:05:28Speaker 1: watching a rerun. Jamis comes out. He talks about banger
- 2:05:31Speaker 1: after banger. We could talk about DQ after DQ after D.
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