Latest / The Paul Barron Crypto Show / Robinhood Chain Launch on Ethereum Skyrockets!!🚀Steven Goldfelder INTERVIEW🔥Arbitrum
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Robinhood is finally launched on chain and that means ethereum,
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- 1:05Speaker 2: Let's get into it today.
- 1:06Speaker 1: I want to go We're going to have a guest
- 1:08Speaker 1: for you guys that'll break this down and it's going
- 1:11Speaker 1: to get into some detail around what this might mean
- 1:13Speaker 1: for the market. I want to go over to a clip.
- 1:15Speaker 1: This will kind of recap some of the things that
- 1:17Speaker 1: they said.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Take a look.
- 1:19Speaker 3: You have my attention, gentlemen. Show me your progress. Yes,
- 1:25Speaker 3: of course.
- 1:26Speaker 4: So I'm happy to announce that we plan to finally
- 1:28Speaker 4: roll out crypto on the Robinhood UK app.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Not big enough in my book? What else do you have?
- 1:34Speaker 5: We partnered with off chain and launch a test net
- 1:37Speaker 5: on the albitrump stack. We're officially launching the chain today.
- 1:40Speaker 6: So introducing our new stock tokens.
- 1:43Speaker 3: My crew was frustrated that they were only in Europe
- 1:46Speaker 3: last year.
- 1:46Speaker 6: They're now available directly to use in the Robinhood wallets
- 1:49Speaker 6: in over one hundred and twenty countries.
- 1:52Speaker 5: I'm going to use USDG for this demo, about a
- 1:55Speaker 5: thousand dollars to buy the tokens. You're going to get
- 1:59Speaker 5: the quotes in real time, updated constantly, and once you're
- 2:02Speaker 5: satisfied with your order, you can confirm the purchase by
- 2:05Speaker 5: swiping again and you will be able to see your
- 2:08Speaker 5: balance changing right after. For the next ninety days, we'll
- 2:12Speaker 5: cover gas fees in the wallet for anyone transacting on
- 2:14Speaker 5: the robbin chain. That means your guess fees for swaps,
- 2:18Speaker 5: scrypto and stop talking of like and any bridge transaction
- 2:20Speaker 5: into the chain all on us.
- 2:23Speaker 1: We wanted to bring on Steven Goldfelder, who is the
- 2:26Speaker 1: CEO of off Chain, to kind of break some of
- 2:27Speaker 1: this down.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Steven, how are you.
- 2:29Speaker 4: I'm great, great to be here.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent. So you saw some of the announcements out there.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Now you look at the growth within the last twenty
- 2:37Speaker 1: four you're already seeing the ecosystem TVL start to explode.
- 2:41Speaker 1: We'll most likely start to see a growth in overall wallets.
- 2:45Speaker 1: We'll see market cap move on the stable coin gust,
- 2:49Speaker 1: and I think just liquidity in general, as you can
- 2:51Speaker 1: see right here, transaction wise as still has really started
- 2:54Speaker 1: to accelerate.
- 2:56Speaker 2: When you look at.
- 2:58Speaker 1: What could be a meme coin season starting to brew
- 3:01Speaker 1: on robin hood. Was this an anticipation of everything you
- 3:06Speaker 1: were expecting or was there anything else that you think
- 3:09Speaker 1: is still yet to come.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Well, I think this is obviously quite literally day one,
- 3:14Speaker 4: and there will be a lot more that will come
- 3:15Speaker 4: on this network. But what excites me about this network
- 3:18Speaker 4: and what we're seeing is one of the largest and
- 3:21Speaker 4: most important financial institutions of the world, with a direct
- 3:24Speaker 4: line to retail twenty eight million retail customers, is going
- 3:28Speaker 4: not just like hey, this little blockchain experiment, but they're
- 3:32Speaker 4: going all in on chain. They're doubling down. We saw
- 3:34Speaker 4: this one year ago in June when they initially announced
- 3:37Speaker 4: that they're building on Arbitrum. But obviously they've been cooking
- 3:41Speaker 4: and we've been supporting them for the past year and
- 3:43Speaker 4: they have a really really well fully fleshed product suite
- 3:48Speaker 4: that they are launching and went live today. It's funny
- 3:51Speaker 4: you mentioned meme coins. What excites me actually is that
- 3:53Speaker 4: this is real finance right there. Of course, there may
- 3:55Speaker 4: be a mean point season here as well, we'll see,
- 3:57Speaker 4: but this is real finance. See stock tokens, Robin Hood's
- 4:01Speaker 4: bringing RWA's on chain, and mass. I think we're going
- 4:04Speaker 4: to see this as the really on chain hub, liquidity hub,
- 4:08Speaker 4: but also just the center of world assets coming on
- 4:13Speaker 4: Chaine and from there, we'll see them flowing I think
- 4:14Speaker 4: throughout the entire crypto ecosystem. But yes, there's definitely more
- 4:19Speaker 4: to come, for sure, but I think it's an extremely
- 4:21Speaker 4: strong start and the flavor of bringing finance on chain
- 4:25Speaker 4: is remarkable.
- 4:26Speaker 2: One thing that was put out by uniswap.
- 4:29Speaker 1: They of course announced there at uniswap's primary plub public
- 4:32Speaker 1: amm from day one, so big deal there for uniewap
- 4:36Speaker 1: and uniswap X. They're live alongside what's happening now. Do
- 4:41Speaker 1: you think there's any opportunity here where robinhood could actually
- 4:44Speaker 1: flip base?
- 4:45Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think that I would call that probably the
- 4:49Speaker 4: likely outcome here over time. You know, robin hood has
- 4:52Speaker 4: such a much much larger user base, particularly Fundata subscription users,
- 4:58Speaker 4: at a very very fast paced the you know, real
- 5:00Speaker 4: world assets, assets that historically haven't been on chain or
- 5:03Speaker 4: haven't had a very strong and well backed representative asset
- 5:09Speaker 4: on chain for these assets to bring those on chain,
- 5:12Speaker 4: We're going to see these over time be introduced into
- 5:15Speaker 4: different defive protocols. And I think one of the nicest
- 5:17Speaker 4: things about building a chain is robin Hood's inviting others
- 5:19Speaker 4: to take these assets and build unique new experiences on them,
- 5:23Speaker 4: things that we've literally never seen before and many people
- 5:26Speaker 4: have definitely wanted for a long time in the blockchain ecosystem.
- 5:30Speaker 4: So I think Robinhood has a very very strong headstart
- 5:33Speaker 4: here with the Arbitram infrastructure, but they also listed a
- 5:35Speaker 4: whole host of other infrastructure day one providers as well,
- 5:38Speaker 4: so they're taking this very seriously. And I think that
- 5:42Speaker 4: the combination of their retail user base as well as
- 5:45Speaker 4: liquidity that's already on chain will continue to come on chain,
- 5:48Speaker 4: and together with the both the first party experiences that
- 5:52Speaker 4: they're building around their stock topns, but also the fact
- 5:55Speaker 4: that there will be a bustling ecosystem of others saying hey,
- 5:57Speaker 4: we have one of the biggest players in finance. We
- 6:00Speaker 4: can actually build tools on top of their assets. That's
- 6:03Speaker 4: going to be explosive in my in my opinion, and
- 6:05Speaker 4: I think we're just seeing the very beginning of it today.
- 6:08Speaker 1: How long do you think that would take before we
- 6:10Speaker 1: could actually see this become one of the majors out
- 6:12Speaker 1: there and flip base.
- 6:14Speaker 4: I'll focus more, I guess in the first part, which
- 6:16Speaker 4: I think you know over the court, I think it
- 6:18Speaker 4: will be very very quick you know, certainly over the
- 6:20Speaker 4: course of the next year, I think we'll see this
- 6:22Speaker 4: chain become very very important hub for on chain finance,
- 6:26Speaker 4: particularly in the RWA flavor. Even before the chain was live,
- 6:29Speaker 4: robin Hood already launched over two thousand stock tokens and
- 6:32Speaker 4: arbitration one. Obviously, they're going to continue to accelerate the
- 6:35Speaker 4: pace of bringing these assets on chain, and that's actually,
- 6:38Speaker 4: you know, one of the I would say most important
- 6:40Speaker 4: frontiers for crypto today.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:42Speaker 4: It was at one point when I got when we
- 6:44Speaker 4: built the company initially in twenty eighteen, and even before
- 6:47Speaker 4: that when I was working on Princeton, scaling was the
- 6:49Speaker 4: big issue. Ux is obviously a large issue today, but
- 6:53Speaker 4: actually assets on chain is one of the i would
- 6:55Speaker 4: say largest frontiers today today. And you know, the early
- 6:58Speaker 4: movers here definitely have an opportunity to literally set the
- 7:02Speaker 4: standards for the assets and the experiences that we build
- 7:05Speaker 4: on chain. I think Robinhood is definitely showing itself as
- 7:08Speaker 4: forward thinking and one of those early movers.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I want to go to a clip real quick because
- 7:12Speaker 1: this gets into purpose and spot trading by lighter, which
- 7:14Speaker 1: is now becoming a big deal with what's going on here.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Let me go to that clip and then I'll get
- 7:19Speaker 1: your comments.
- 7:20Speaker 6: In addition, both Lighter and Arcuss a new exchange by
- 7:23Speaker 6: the team behind du IDx are launching perpetual and spot
- 7:27Speaker 6: training exchanges on the chain itself.
- 7:29Speaker 5: We'll rolling out access to visit the robbin white now
- 7:32Speaker 5: so you can see all the contract details right here.
- 7:35Speaker 5: You will be able to change the margin very easily
- 7:38Speaker 5: with a slighter, and you can change the leverage. Let's
- 7:42Speaker 5: say we are going to do six x and you
- 7:45Speaker 5: can confirm just by swiping and whill directly on the
- 7:48Speaker 5: lighter exchange settling on the.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Robby and chain good speed on that.
- 7:52Speaker 5: Lighter has committed eleven million words of lid token to
- 7:54Speaker 5: the robbin and community. Starting August first, every purpse trade
- 7:58Speaker 5: in eligible joysdiction on points and two times in the
- 8:01Speaker 5: robbin and wallet, and those ones will convert directly into
- 8:04Speaker 5: litoken from that pool.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Do you think that this move is going to take
- 8:09Speaker 1: a little bit of market share away from hyper liquid.
- 8:12Speaker 4: I think it definitely has the potential too, and I
- 8:14Speaker 4: do expect I think you know, ultimately, I think the
- 8:16Speaker 4: pie is very much growing, not only the competition for
- 8:19Speaker 4: existing users, but the very fact that they're bringing their
- 8:21Speaker 4: retail users on chain, and these are users that don't
- 8:24Speaker 4: even know how to use the blockchain, right you don't
- 8:25Speaker 4: necessarily now need to know how to back up your
- 8:28Speaker 4: seed phrase or connect your wallet or do any of these.
- 8:31Speaker 4: You know, can talk to an RPCS or you don't
- 8:32Speaker 4: even know any of this today because you can literally
- 8:34Speaker 4: now go in the Robinhood app and have access to
- 8:37Speaker 4: these leverage protocols that are going to be backed by
- 8:39Speaker 4: say Lighter or other you know, on chain protocols. But
- 8:44Speaker 4: this is going to grow the pie significantly because a
- 8:47Speaker 4: whole class of users that were cut out before because
- 8:49Speaker 4: they didn't know how to literally didn't know how to
- 8:51Speaker 4: access these tools are now going to be different questions
- 8:55Speaker 4: in terms of the growth of the market share and
- 8:57Speaker 4: percentage wized. Absolutely, I think we're going to see Robinhood
- 8:59Speaker 4: become a hub for DeFi, particularly when it comes to
- 9:05Speaker 4: interactions with real world assets and stock tokens and the
- 9:07Speaker 4: purpose product that they and the clip that you just played,
- 9:12Speaker 4: and part of that is again the thing you mentioned,
- 9:13Speaker 4: the thing I just said is the UX. The UX
- 9:15Speaker 4: is going to be unifying in the sense that it
- 9:18Speaker 4: will bring together both those robinhood users that don't even
- 9:21Speaker 4: know what a blockchain is, don't want to know what
- 9:23Speaker 4: a blockchain is, but would be really interested in this experience,
- 9:26Speaker 4: as well as the DeFi users that want to go
- 9:28Speaker 4: deep in customize their experience by actually going deep into
- 9:32Speaker 4: the blockchain details, and both of them will be able
- 9:34Speaker 4: to do this within the same protocol on the same chain.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Some other announcements here, robinhood also launches Earn on the
- 9:42Speaker 1: main app. This is a big deal. Let me play
- 9:44Speaker 1: a clip for you, then I want to get your
- 9:46Speaker 1: opinion on that.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Robbin Hood Earn the first decentralized learning product vgiables the
- 9:51Speaker 5: robbin app.
- 9:52Speaker 6: Okay, so what is the rate?
- 9:54Speaker 3: The question on all of our minds.
- 9:56Speaker 6: Robinhood Earn is launching at a seven percent APY. The
- 10:01Speaker 6: APY moves in step with a volume of loans, an
- 10:04Speaker 6: approach we believe will result in a more predictable rate
- 10:07Speaker 6: over time. So we search the globe to find the
- 10:10Speaker 6: best insurance we could. We've partnered with the Venerable Lloids
- 10:13Speaker 6: of London, who bring three centuries of strength glad.
- 10:16Speaker 5: This will actually be one of the largest ever insurance
- 10:19Speaker 5: program across.
- 10:20Speaker 3: The crypto industry.
- 10:21Speaker 6: The largest right and underneath this the lending itself runs
- 10:24Speaker 6: on Morpho, all accessible via the main Robinhood app. This
- 10:28Speaker 6: product uses USDG, but you can actually start with your
- 10:31Speaker 6: own cash balance. I'm going to confirm my USDG purchase
- 10:37Speaker 6: and by submitting, I'm actually authorizing this transaction on chain,
- 10:41Speaker 6: and as you can see, just like that, the earnings
- 10:43Speaker 6: are accumulating right now. Live today, we'll be rolling out
- 10:47Speaker 6: to one percent of US customers and ramping up to
- 10:49Speaker 6: all qualified customers over the next few weeks.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Do you have nothing else for me?
- 10:53Speaker 6: If you're moving your crypto over to robin Hood, We're
- 10:56Speaker 6: offering a three percent match on eligible cryptocurrencies to me.
- 11:00Speaker 4: The exciting thing here is, you know, just reinforcing what
- 11:03Speaker 4: I said previously, which is there are a lot of
- 11:06Speaker 4: users that you know, they don't know how to use
- 11:08Speaker 4: say morpho on harbort one or morpho on Ethereum today
- 11:12Speaker 4: and they just don't have access to some of these opportunities.
- 11:15Speaker 4: And what robinhood is doing is basically bridging the gap here.
- 11:17Speaker 4: So you know, we've seen obviously robin Hood, with plenty
- 11:20Speaker 4: of their products, do slow rollouts. You know, obviously with
- 11:22Speaker 4: the robin Hood Gold cards. So I don't know exactly
- 11:24Speaker 4: how this will rut over time, but I'm sure that
- 11:25Speaker 4: it will definitely expand over time. And the idea is
- 11:28Speaker 4: that it's going to be something that's just attractive to
- 11:31Speaker 4: all users. And this is, you know, one of the
- 11:33Speaker 4: big questions for crypto generally asked over the past several
- 11:37Speaker 4: years is, Okay, I get that there's a group of,
- 11:40Speaker 4: you know, crypto native people, this is exciting for but
- 11:43Speaker 4: can we change the lives of everyone in the world.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Can you know, the person that doesn't understand crypto or
- 11:48Speaker 4: doesn't want to understand crypto, can they also benefit? And
- 11:51Speaker 4: we're seeing Robin Wood answer this question in a few ways,
- 11:53Speaker 4: and the affirmative Number one, the very fact that they've
- 11:55Speaker 4: now expanded to dozens of new countries on the Crypto
- 11:59Speaker 4: on Crypto rails at a pace that they wouldn't have
- 12:02Speaker 4: otherwise been able to do is number one approof of
- 12:04Speaker 4: the value of crypto. And number two is now they're
- 12:06Speaker 4: giving their retail users, both in those countries and beyond
- 12:09Speaker 4: the ability to have opportunities and access opportunities, whether it
- 12:13Speaker 4: comes whether it's seven percent yield or other opportunities that
- 12:16Speaker 4: they simply wouldn't have on their traditional rails, And they
- 12:19Speaker 4: can do that all without actually engaging in any of
- 12:21Speaker 4: the technical details in crypto.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Do you know if this vault is running on arbitrump,
- 12:26Speaker 2: the vault.
- 12:26Speaker 4: Is running on I believe on Robin and Chain view Morpho.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Morpho Okay, all right? So would this okay? So would
- 12:33Speaker 1: that solidify Morpho kind of as the new standard here?
- 12:36Speaker 4: I believe that they are yes using Morpho for their
- 12:39Speaker 4: lending product.
- 12:40Speaker 3: On their chaine.
- 12:41Speaker 2: So what would this do to coinbase?
- 12:42Speaker 1: Wouldn't they have to kind of meet the game and
- 12:46Speaker 1: raise their APIs.
- 12:48Speaker 4: That's you know, I can speculate on that. Obviously, that's
- 12:51Speaker 4: a business level question for them. But I think we
- 12:53Speaker 4: are seeing here is, you know, the incumbency that people
- 12:58Speaker 4: may have assumed a year ago or two years ago
- 13:01Speaker 4: who the big players in crypto will be obviously is
- 13:05Speaker 4: maybe being shaken up a little bit. I think to
- 13:07Speaker 4: everyone it's very clear today that Robin Hood is not
- 13:10Speaker 4: only this fintech giant, but also has greatly emerged as
- 13:15Speaker 4: a crypto giant. Obviously that comes with the bit stamp
- 13:18Speaker 4: acquisition that they did, but obviously even more together with
- 13:22Speaker 4: what we've been building with them and what they announced yesterday,
- 13:25Speaker 4: Robin Hood is very much fronted center a crypto company
- 13:29Speaker 4: as much as it is a fintech company. And I
- 13:31Speaker 4: think that, you know, that's becoming obvious to everyone, and
- 13:34Speaker 4: they're here to stay.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the move with their you know,
- 13:38Speaker 1: and they kind of touted it was the move with
- 13:40Speaker 1: Lloyd's of London, you know, insurance is going to be
- 13:42Speaker 1: a major you know, scenario that plays out, especially on
- 13:45Speaker 1: decision making for a lot of investors out there, to
- 13:48Speaker 1: see that kind of partnership, it's going to be important.
- 13:51Speaker 1: So this launches USDG into the limelight. This is going
- 13:56Speaker 1: to really make it, I think, a very specified stable
- 13:59Speaker 1: coin in turn of going forward, especially if robin Hood
- 14:02Speaker 1: gets traction here. What about USDG now versus what's happening
- 14:06Speaker 1: with OUSD and what was just announced here just in
- 14:11Speaker 1: the last week. Do you think that was more of
- 14:12Speaker 1: a marketing stunt or do you think this is Give
- 14:16Speaker 1: me your opinion on those two stable coins as the
- 14:19Speaker 1: especially with what's rolling out with Robin Hoood right now.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's they're very much similar in what
- 14:24Speaker 4: they're trying to accomplish or the method that they're trying
- 14:27Speaker 4: to use, which is obviously you have the very big
- 14:30Speaker 4: players today in USDC and us d T, and the
- 14:33Speaker 4: question is, hey, can can we challenge them? And I
- 14:36Speaker 4: think it's becoming clear to most people that you know,
- 14:38Speaker 4: a third independent player is likely not going to be
- 14:42Speaker 4: able to compete with them today. And just because you know,
- 14:45Speaker 4: they have such a massive headstart when it comes to
- 14:47Speaker 4: technical integrations throughout exchanges just FIAT on REMPS, offtwams. There's
- 14:52Speaker 4: just massive, massive headstart that these you know, large protocols have,
- 14:57Speaker 4: and of course in the market share that they have
- 14:58Speaker 4: as well. Then the question is, hey, can we leverage
- 15:02Speaker 4: economics in a way that we joined economics in a
- 15:05Speaker 4: way that challenges this And obviously that's uh. You know,
- 15:08Speaker 4: usd G is a great example of that, bringing together
- 15:10Speaker 4: some of the most powerful financial companies in the world,
- 15:13Speaker 4: and I think O us D is a similar place,
- 15:16Speaker 4: slightly different strategy potentially with the makeup of the companies.
- 15:20Speaker 4: But the idea is, hey can we give first line
- 15:23Speaker 4: incentives to folks to drive you know, when they have
- 15:27Speaker 4: a decision to make of Hey should I you know,
- 15:29Speaker 4: what assets should we use in our platform. How do
- 15:31Speaker 4: you give folks the incentives to grow a new asset.
- 15:34Speaker 4: So I think we're seeing this play out with us
- 15:36Speaker 4: d G. Robin Hood obviously is one of the founding
- 15:40Speaker 4: consorting consorting partners of us d G, and became very
- 15:44Speaker 4: clear from their presentation yesterday and the uh the clip
- 15:48Speaker 4: that you played that USTG will be a foundational asset
- 15:51Speaker 4: on this chain. And I personally am very very excited
- 15:54Speaker 4: for the adoption of USDG and I think it has
- 15:57Speaker 4: if you know, I would put it as the top
- 15:59Speaker 4: of my assets that are likely to significantly grow and
- 16:04Speaker 4: challenge status quote when it comes to stable points.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Let's go over to a clip here.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I want to talk about AI native chain features now
- 16:11Speaker 1: that are going to be available on this and then
- 16:13Speaker 1: we'll talk about virtuals and some things that I kind
- 16:15Speaker 1: of connect the dots here.
- 16:17Speaker 6: So we designed the robin A chain from the start
- 16:19Speaker 6: to be AI native and already UNISWAP and Privy have
- 16:23Speaker 6: deployed their skills directly on the chain. They can do
- 16:26Speaker 6: everything from connecting a wallet, choosing a dex and even
- 16:29Speaker 6: sign a transaction. The user just sees the end outcome.
- 16:33Speaker 7: Let's have our agent build a watch list of stocks
- 16:35Speaker 7: that specialize in crypto mining. You can see your account
- 16:39Speaker 7: update in real time as your watch list has created. Now,
- 16:42Speaker 7: let's ask it to invest one thousand dollars in that list.
- 16:46Speaker 7: There you go. I want to wait until these stocks
- 16:48Speaker 7: drop three to five percent. Perfect, so our agent will
- 16:53Speaker 7: be keeping an eye and reinvesting based on these parameters.
- 16:56Speaker 7: Moving forward, here, I asked it to show my current
- 16:59Speaker 7: lots for bitcoin and it quickly found unrealized losses, helping
- 17:03Speaker 7: me to uncover opportunities I did not even know I
- 17:06Speaker 7: had for harvesting. And if while you're out, your agent
- 17:09Speaker 7: does identify an opportunity based on the strategies you've set up,
- 17:13Speaker 7: you will receive a push notification alerting you of the
- 17:17Speaker 7: action and it's available at no additional costs this month
- 17:21Speaker 7: to us Robinhood Gold members.
- 17:23Speaker 1: All right, there you have it. Agentic Trading is here.
- 17:26Speaker 1: My first question is will these transactions occur on arbitrump.
- 17:29Speaker 4: So these will in clear on the arbitrm platform, largely
- 17:32Speaker 4: on the robin Hood chain, which is part of the
- 17:34Speaker 4: launched an art now on the broader arbiting platform. Yes.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Do you think the amount of transactions now when you
- 17:40Speaker 1: look at this will flip the amount of this is
- 17:43Speaker 1: easily going to flip human transactions, wouldn't it.
- 17:45Speaker 4: I expect so in time absolutely. I think we're already
- 17:48Speaker 4: seeing that now on just Internet browsing activity. Yeah, I
- 17:52Speaker 4: definitely time, particularly when you have strong tools like the
- 17:55Speaker 4: one that you just showed in the clip available to use.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Yes, looking at VIRTUALS protocol Robin and che integrating VIRTUALS
- 18:01Speaker 1: AI agent infrastructure day one giving users access to launch,
- 18:04Speaker 1: fund own and use the agents.
- 18:06Speaker 2: So that's a big deal.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Who would you say right now, robin Hood or coinbase
- 18:12Speaker 1: when it comes to AI, who's doing it better?
- 18:14Speaker 4: I know you're yeah, I mean you can guess what
- 18:19Speaker 4: I'll say. I think you know. The coin Base is
- 18:22Speaker 4: a credit. They've done a lot of good work in
- 18:24Speaker 4: terms of standards like h standards, protocol standards for AI
- 18:29Speaker 4: agents interacting that are being used, you know, beyond just
- 18:32Speaker 4: the core you know coinbas based platforms. So they've definitely
- 18:35Speaker 4: done a lot of good work. But ultimately, I think
- 18:37Speaker 4: it ultimately comes down to you when it comes to
- 18:38Speaker 4: the success and the volume that AI will bring of
- 18:42Speaker 4: you know, AI agents obviously, as we said, will be
- 18:44Speaker 4: larger number, but Ultimately, they all flow back to particular
- 18:47Speaker 4: users and particular liquidity, and the question is where do
- 18:49Speaker 4: these use those users, where do those retail users. You know,
- 18:53Speaker 4: I always like to say, you know, we crypto obviously
- 18:56Speaker 4: use we're DJN often to describe some of the activities
- 18:58Speaker 4: in the space. But like the non crypto platform, historically
- 19:01Speaker 4: non crypto platform that had the same DJEN activities and
- 19:04Speaker 4: dj users will obviously robin Hood. You just look no
- 19:07Speaker 4: further at the obviously game stop and activity of several
- 19:10Speaker 4: years ago. These are the class of users that will
- 19:14Speaker 4: put these tools to work and find new tools and
- 19:16Speaker 4: build new tools to increase and harvest their opportunities. Robinhood
- 19:21Speaker 4: owns this retail market entirely, and I think to the
- 19:25Speaker 4: extent that there you know users were those users are
- 19:28Speaker 4: also previously going elsewhere for crypto. They were probably saying, hey,
- 19:31Speaker 4: I'm using Robinhood and I'm using another platform for the
- 19:34Speaker 4: things that robin Hood doesn't yet provide. But now that
- 19:36Speaker 4: robinhood is providing everything they historically do in fintech, but
- 19:39Speaker 4: also all these crypto opportunities and new agentic first crypto
- 19:43Speaker 4: opportunities that will definitely appeal to UH you know your
- 19:46Speaker 4: dgen users. I think we're going to see their market
- 19:49Speaker 4: share just you know, dominate here like it does.
- 19:53Speaker 2: It could get a bit quick.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I want to go to this last section, which gets
- 19:57Speaker 1: into marching payments, and this I think is one of
- 19:59Speaker 1: the more important ones because it has so much upside
- 20:02Speaker 1: in terms of market capacity.
- 20:04Speaker 3: Not a lot of merchants accept stable coins yet, while
- 20:07Speaker 3: everyone is using the right buzzwords but doing nothing, We've
- 20:11Speaker 3: launched what, to our knowledge is the world's first consumer
- 20:15Speaker 3: agentic credit card. Make sure you get at least one
- 20:18Speaker 3: gift for each person. That's the constraint. The agent actually
- 20:22Speaker 3: went ahead and purchased your gifts for delivery today. You
- 20:26Speaker 3: can tell it to procure tickets for the theater or
- 20:29Speaker 3: opera the moment they're released, Johan. You can ask it
- 20:32Speaker 3: to buy that vintage time piece that you've had your
- 20:35Speaker 3: eye on as soon as it's listed below a certain price.
- 20:38Speaker 3: If you want, you can turn on approvals to validate
- 20:41Speaker 3: and approve transactions. You can change spending limits. The Robinhood
- 20:45Speaker 3: Agentic credit card is available now for all our cardholders.
- 20:49Speaker 5: Too bad, you have to get the craik out only
- 20:52Speaker 5: you You as customer yep, you you've got me on
- 20:55Speaker 5: that one.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Are all these stable coin payments?
- 20:58Speaker 1: Do you think everything is going to be transacting on
- 21:00Speaker 1: stable coins?
- 21:01Speaker 4: I think stable coins will become the dominant uh yes,
- 21:06Speaker 4: mode for AI agents to transact. We're already seeing this.
- 21:11Speaker 4: Cloud Flare last week announced you know that they are
- 21:13Speaker 4: now offering stable cooin gated basically websites and other Internet experiences.
- 21:18Speaker 4: It's clear that this is the lowest friction way for
- 21:22Speaker 4: for agents to interact, and I do think we'll see
- 21:25Speaker 4: a lot of this, you know, via Robinhood on robinhood
- 21:27Speaker 4: chain for sure.
- 21:29Speaker 2: How do you see this changing consermer habits right now?
- 21:31Speaker 4: I think will take time. I think, like every other
- 21:33Speaker 4: technology out there, there will be the first class of
- 21:36Speaker 4: power users. And again, like I said, I believe very
- 21:38Speaker 4: strongly that robin Hood you know is user base, uh
- 21:42Speaker 4: based on you know, the makeup of the retail users
- 21:44Speaker 4: and the investing and trading traders on the platform will
- 21:47Speaker 4: likely be some of the first that will be incentivized
- 21:50Speaker 4: to uh really deploy agents and and and use some
- 21:54Speaker 4: of these experiences. But in terms of you know, you
- 21:56Speaker 4: zoom out, like I think, we're obviously it's very clear
- 21:59Speaker 4: to everyone that AI is reshaping and redrawing the world
- 22:03Speaker 4: as we know it. But of course I think it
- 22:05Speaker 4: will take it will take time, uh until this uh
- 22:08Speaker 4: you know, change is broad user habits globally, but I
- 22:11Speaker 4: think will happen eventually.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Steven, my last question is this is you look at
- 22:16Speaker 1: all of this great news. I mean, it's fantastic, it's
- 22:19Speaker 1: beautiful as uh we're in a bear market, though, do
- 22:22Speaker 1: you think the sentiment is going to change on Ethereum
- 22:26Speaker 1: even with all of what's happening here. I mean, essentially
- 22:29Speaker 1: this is kind of, uh, I think an opportunity that
- 22:32Speaker 1: is just blue sky ready, it's just waiting to explode.
- 22:36Speaker 2: What do you think sentiment wise for e.
- 22:38Speaker 4: Well, we're building uh you know, we're we're working towards it.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Off chain is really bringing enterprises on chain. And you know,
- 22:46Speaker 4: robin Hood's announced me yesterday is not only a win
- 22:48Speaker 4: for the orbgin platform, but it's a win for Ethereum,
- 22:51Speaker 4: right because we think about it, robin Hood decided that
- 22:52Speaker 4: they want to launch their own blockchain, and that's a
- 22:55Speaker 4: starting point. And you know there are a few institutionions
- 22:57Speaker 4: that made that same decision, and you either launch now
- 22:59Speaker 4: to one Ethereum or you launch your own L one.
- 23:01Speaker 4: There's no other game, right, Alternative l ones don't have
- 23:03Speaker 4: an L two business, don't have an L two model
- 23:05Speaker 4: that they can offer you this, So Ethereum actually has
- 23:07Speaker 4: a major leg up here And Robinhood is definitely the
- 23:11Speaker 4: first of this scale to really you know, as a
- 23:14Speaker 4: fintech to launch a chain, but they won't be the last.
- 23:16Speaker 4: And I think we're going to continue to see more
- 23:18Speaker 4: and more wins for Ethereum, and people have to appreciate
- 23:21Speaker 4: that Robin Hood launching their own chain, their own arbitrum
- 23:23Speaker 4: L two on Ethereum is a very very large win
- 23:27Speaker 4: for Ethereum and not it's not you know, competitively Ethereum
- 23:31Speaker 4: layer one, and they're both big wins for Ethereum. Ethereum
- 23:34Speaker 4: is both it's l ones and it's L two's and
- 23:37Speaker 4: I think people need to appreciate that. But yes, I
- 23:39Speaker 4: think over time this will definitely uh uh improve sentiment.
- 23:43Speaker 4: And the nice thing is, you know, beer markets are
- 23:45Speaker 4: I'd say one of the best time is to build
- 23:47Speaker 4: right because you know, during a ball market, everyone's say,
- 23:50Speaker 4: whereas is we're during a bear market. You have a
- 23:52Speaker 4: little you know, time and you know, a little a
- 23:54Speaker 4: little less pressure, and whenever the market turns on, there's
- 23:57Speaker 4: gonna be a new class of users and a new
- 24:00Speaker 4: rush of liquidity that discovers all those clips that you've played,
- 24:03Speaker 4: all these features that are now available on robin Hood Chain,
- 24:07Speaker 4: on the Arbigin platform, on Ethereum to basically trade quality assets,
- 24:12Speaker 4: agentic first experiences do things that many probably never even
- 24:15Speaker 4: thought were possible. I thought we'd see for many, many
- 24:17Speaker 4: many years. At the very least, they all available today,
- 24:19Speaker 4: and when the market picks up, you won't be saying, hey,
- 24:21Speaker 4: when can I do that? It's oh wow, that's already there.
- 24:24Speaker 4: That happened during the bear market. It's ready for primetime today.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Well, and I think to your point exactly is that
- 24:30Speaker 1: there is going to be just an onslaught of new
- 24:33Speaker 1: potential investors that have never touched this before. And we've
- 24:37Speaker 1: always talked about this on the show, is that when
- 24:40Speaker 1: crypto figures out how to make it work like tradfi
- 24:44Speaker 1: with crypto rails, that is the cracking the code that
- 24:48Speaker 1: is really going to get you to the next level
- 24:50Speaker 1: in terms of adoptions.
- 24:51Speaker 2: So I agree with you. I think there's going to
- 24:52Speaker 2: be a.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Big opportunity here going forward with Eth Steven. Thank you
- 24:56Speaker 1: so much for coming in today. This has been a
- 24:57Speaker 1: good one. We appreciate it.
- 24:59Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
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