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The Kenny Report | 20 June · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lona from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 2: The nuclear energy debate and how much dumber could Anthony Alberanesi,
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Speaker 2: Labor and their mates try to make it? The ABC
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Speaker 2: attacks the coalition plan, of course, and asks for more money.
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Speaker 2: But I'll show you a good story from the ABC too.
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Speaker 2: A preschool childcare center in Sydney teaches kids about Pride Month,
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Speaker 2: a LGBT diversity. Social media is impacting our kids with
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Speaker 2: Whipper plus Pauline Hansen, Tim and Mark and Alexander Downer.
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Speaker 1: On foreign affairs. Let's get cracking the nuclear debate. Last
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Speaker 1: night I.
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Speaker 2: Framed it as a national IQ test and so far
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi and his labor team are failing it. Seriously,
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Speaker 2: this mob are carrying on like a bunch of school kids,
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Speaker 2: And actually that's unfair to the KidSing on like a
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Speaker 2: bunch of people with IQs around room temperature, incapable of
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Speaker 2: intelligent debate.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this bloke.
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Speaker 2: He happens to be the prime minister of a significant nation.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is just a fantasy. Instead of Snow
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Speaker 3: White and the Seven Dwarves, this is Peter Duttlan the
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Speaker 3: seven nuclear reactors.
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Speaker 1: Really, this is.
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Speaker 2: The response to the greatest economic challenge this nation faces.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Labour claims to be fully committed to net
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Speaker 2: zero by twenty fifty, yet they have no credible plan
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Speaker 2: to get there. No other nation is even trying to
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Speaker 2: do it with renewables alone. And Labour knows we have
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Speaker 2: an electricity price and supply crisis, yet they refuse to
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Speaker 2: even consider the one dispatchable, reliable, proven, zero emissions energy
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Speaker 2: source nuclear and they dismissed the idea like this.
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Speaker 3: This is farcical, frankly karent. This is economic catastrophe.
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Speaker 2: And economic catastrophe isn't that what we're facing now, Pensioners
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Speaker 2: who can't pay their power bills, industries moving offshore. Labour's
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Speaker 2: response is farcical, all right. I mean, have a look
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Speaker 2: at these social media posts. This is from the New
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Speaker 2: South Wales Labor Party showing a nuclear reactor on Sydney Harbor.
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Speaker 2: And this from the inner city Labour Greens and till
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Speaker 2: types who never even let a wind turbine near their neighborhoods.
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Speaker 2: They demanded to know the sites for nuclear but when
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Speaker 2: they get them, they still push this nonsense. Now, Andrew
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Speaker 2: Lee likes to call himself doctor Lee and he's the
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Speaker 2: assistant Treasurer of this nation. No less, yet he's posted
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Speaker 2: a three eyed blinky bill in front of a nuclear plant,
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Speaker 2: which only goes to prove you don't need a high
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Speaker 2: OQ to claim a pH. Victoria's labor Premier, Jacinta Allen
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Speaker 2: calls nuclear energy toxic and talks about a.
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Speaker 1: Renewable energy superpower.
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Speaker 2: And if that doesn't make you question her IQ, then
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Speaker 2: check out her social media post of three eyed fish
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Speaker 2: in Gippsland. Just puerile anti nuclear scare campaigning from a
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Speaker 2: state premiere.
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Speaker 4: No less, are you saying that our submarners are now
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Speaker 4: going to have three eyes because they'll be on a
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Speaker 4: nuclear power submarine.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, Labor should be embarrassed.
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Speaker 3: But no, we're not going to take lectures, Karen. We're
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Speaker 3: not going to take lectures from the coalition that are
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Speaker 3: out there running scare campaigns about everything.
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Speaker 2: Look, they like to talk about the climate crisis and
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Speaker 2: saving the planet, these left these yet they're too obtuse
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Speaker 2: to actually engage in a serious about the only proven
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Speaker 2: based load of missions free energy source we have. Even
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Speaker 2: though the labor and left left have set of colleagues
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Speaker 2: in the UK, in France, in the US right across
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Speaker 2: Asia and Europe in fact, have all been in on
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Speaker 2: nuclear for decades, even when the Liberal Party points out
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Speaker 2: the clear, well known and well reasoned support for nuclear
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Speaker 2: energy offered by Labor legend former Prime Minister Bob Hawk
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Speaker 2: before his death the current Prime Minister Christ foul.
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Speaker 3: Let's be clear here, Bob Hawk can't speak for himself.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's pretty tacky that the Coalition attempting
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Speaker 3: to use are quote out of context as well of
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Speaker 3: my dear late friend Bob Hawk.
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Speaker 2: What it's out of context how And it's tacky to
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Speaker 2: quote people now, it's tacky to use facts instead of
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Speaker 2: three eyed fears and dwarf references. The inanity of the
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Speaker 2: attacks from Labor on the Coalition plan only sir, to
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Speaker 2: underscore what a serious proposal it is. Take this nonsense
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Speaker 2: from the extremists of the Climate Council.
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Speaker 5: We wouldn't see nuclear online till well after twenty forty,
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Speaker 5: and the problems right here now we need to tackle
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Speaker 5: it now. And of course it means that there's no
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Speaker 5: climate policy from the Coalition at all. Their policy is
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Speaker 5: just let it burn. Let the bushfires, the megaphires burn,
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Speaker 5: Let the flood's flood, let the heat become unbearable, Let
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Speaker 5: the climate crisis ruin the future for our kids.
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Speaker 2: Just ponder the ludicrous nature of that statement, and remember
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Speaker 2: it matches what we hear from labor and the greens
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Speaker 2: and the tills. They're actually suggesting there could be some
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Speaker 2: additional emissions in Australia, more than we would have otherwise
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Speaker 2: while we wait for nuclear reactors, and that that will
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Speaker 2: trigger more natural disasters. This is so ridiculous on the
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Speaker 2: maths and the science. I mean, no natural disasters have
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Speaker 2: ever been caused by climate change in Australia. Nothing Australia
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Speaker 2: does will ever influence the climate at any time, much
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Speaker 2: less the tiny fraction of global emissions that might change
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Speaker 2: for a few years.
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Speaker 1: Under this plan.
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Speaker 2: This is so absurd as to be almost insane. But
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Speaker 2: it's not insane, of course, is it. These people are
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Speaker 2: not idiots, they know better. It's just deeply and scandalously misleading,
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Speaker 2: trying to create baseless fear.
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Speaker 1: Still, let's keep going with this.
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Speaker 2: We need to address all the criticism of the nuclear
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Speaker 2: energy plan.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this one.
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Speaker 2: The advice from selective overseas experts.
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Speaker 3: The International Energy Agency, that is very much pro nuclear energy,
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Speaker 3: says that Australia is not an appropriate venue because of
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Speaker 3: the comparative advantages.
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Speaker 1: That we have.
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Speaker 3: Karen, if you go outie it Australia, you can fry
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Speaker 3: an egg on a footpath during the summer. We had
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Speaker 3: the best solar resources in the world.
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Speaker 2: Get rid of our stoves a we just cook on
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Speaker 2: the footpath now. Yes, one IEA official did say that,
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Speaker 2: and of course he was just backing the current Labor
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Speaker 2: government's plan.
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Speaker 1: And why wouldn't the world want us to give all
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Speaker 1: this a go, give this experiment a go. I mean,
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Speaker 1: no one else is silly enough to try it.
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Speaker 2: They might as well see how Australia goes with renewables alone,
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Speaker 2: See how high our prices go and how bad our
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Speaker 2: blackouts get.
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Speaker 1: But let's look.
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Speaker 2: At the official word of the International Energy Agency when
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Speaker 2: it comes to nuclear For years, the IEA has said
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Speaker 2: that net zero cannot be achieved without nuclear power. Nuclear
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Speaker 2: power plays a significant role in a secure global pathway
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Speaker 2: to net zero, it says, and this year the IEA
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Speaker 2: has said many countries making nuclear power a critical part
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Speaker 2: of their energy strategies as they look to safeguard energy
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Speaker 2: security while reducing.
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Speaker 1: Greenhouse gas emissions.
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Speaker 2: It goes on to say we're going to see record
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Speaker 2: levels of nuclear power around the world next year, even
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Speaker 2: as some countries phase out nuclear power or retire plants.
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Speaker 2: Early nuclear generation is forecast to grow, with plants improved
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Speaker 2: in France, Japan, restarting several plants, and new reactors starting
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Speaker 2: up in China, India, Korea and Europe. Yeah, the International
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Speaker 2: Energy Agency's view on nuclear is unambiguous.
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Speaker 1: And I love this next attack from Albo.
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Speaker 2: This is the Little Australia approach, the self loathing approach,
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Speaker 2: telling us this country is not capable of building nuclear
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Speaker 2: power plants.
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Speaker 3: Now, you would have us believe that a mob had
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Speaker 3: struggle to assemble an ikea flat pack, going to start
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Speaker 3: from scratch and be able to develop a nuclear energy
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Speaker 3: industry in Australia, even though they can't say what form
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Speaker 3: the nuclear reactors will take.
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Speaker 2: Really, the Bogans here in Australia went up to it,
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Speaker 2: were going not up to this challenge, but hang on.
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Speaker 2: Australia built its first nuclear reactor at Lucas Heights on
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Speaker 2: Sydney's southern outskirts in the nineteen fifties. Early in nineteen
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Speaker 2: fifty eight, the Prime Ministers to rg Men's is officially
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Speaker 2: open the Research Establishment.
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Speaker 6: This, you know, is a very.
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Speaker 2: Historic occasion for Australia.
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Speaker 7: Indeed it's an historic occasion in the world.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that original research reactor was decommission nearly half a
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Speaker 2: century later, and a new OPAL reactor was installed adarding
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Speaker 2: operations nearly twenty years ago in two thousand and seven.
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Speaker 2: So for nearly seventy years this reactor site has been
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Speaker 2: doing crucial work safely.
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Speaker 8: OPAL, the best reactor of its type in the world,
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Speaker 8: uses only low enriched uranium to produce neutrons, which are
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Speaker 8: useful in analyzing materials at the atomic and molecular level.
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Speaker 8: A big part of opal's role is to produce nuclear
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Speaker 8: medicine for the accurate diagnosis and treatment of cancer and
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Speaker 8: other diseases and injury. Molybdenum ninety nine produced by irradiating
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Speaker 8: targets in the reactor pool decays to technesium ninety nine M,
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Speaker 8: the most common radioisotope used in nuclear medicine. In twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 8: OPAL achieved a record three hundred and seven days of
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Speaker 8: power over twelve months and achieved planned availability of almost
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Speaker 8: one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Do Anthony Albanesian Labor really believe this country is not
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Speaker 2: clever enough to go the next step?
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Speaker 1: Do they really believe a modern in days.
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Speaker 2: Ustrialized and prosperous economy can afford to go through the
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Speaker 2: twenty first century without a nuclear industry.
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Speaker 1: Then there's the issue of cost.
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Speaker 3: There's a reason why people hide costings, and that's course
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Speaker 3: those costings would completely rule out any rational person going
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Speaker 3: down this nuclear road.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Cost is important, and the coalition has said it will
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Speaker 2: reveal its costing soon, but there are three important points
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Speaker 2: to make here. First, even under the CSIRO's latest questionable costings,
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Speaker 2: the most the coalition plan could cost is about one
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars at the absolute most, and we've spent
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Speaker 2: more than that already on the failed renewables transition. Second,
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Speaker 2: reactors last at least seventy five years, probably one hundred years,
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Speaker 2: so whatever they cost should be divided by about three
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Speaker 2: when you compare to renewable infrastructure, because that needs to
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Speaker 2: be replaced at least every twenty five years. And Third,
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Speaker 2: this is all a fraction of the costs of the
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Speaker 2: renewable energy transition, which is likely to top a thousand
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Speaker 2: billion or a trillion dollars, a total cost that labor
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Speaker 2: and the Greens and the Teals and most of their
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Speaker 2: media barrickers never talk about, never question.
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Speaker 1: So even on the cost argument.
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Speaker 2: The renewables experiment loses, and that brings us to perhaps
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Speaker 2: the most compelling case for nuclear. We know it works,
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Speaker 2: it is proven technology. This is about giving us power
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Speaker 2: that is affordable and is there when we need it.
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Speaker 1: The renewables experiment will alienate.
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Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of square kilometers of bushland, farmland and coastlines.
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Speaker 2: It will cost an absolute motza, it will continue to
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Speaker 2: push prices up because all so that investment has to
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Speaker 2: be repaid, and then in the end it won't even
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Speaker 2: deliver power when we need it. This debate is a
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Speaker 2: no brainer, which is why the critics can't do much
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Speaker 2: better than share pictures of three eyed koalas. When we
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Speaker 2: talk about big national debates, we need to talk about
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Speaker 2: the National Broadcaster.
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Speaker 1: The ABC always plays.
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Speaker 2: A huge role in major national debates and it usually
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Speaker 2: gets them wrong. I mean, the ABC was always one
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Speaker 2: sided on border protection and always got that issue badly wrong,
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Speaker 2: and back in the nineteen seventies and eighties, the ABC
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Speaker 2: was anti nuclear, of course, when the argument was about
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Speaker 2: uranium minds.
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Speaker 1: The ABC has.
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Speaker 2: Always been into climate alarmism, consistently making a full of
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Speaker 2: itself on global warming, and the ABC has always unquestioningly,
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Speaker 2: unquestioningly gone along with the renewables transition as the solution.
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Speaker 2: Of course, the ABC has come out swinging against the
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Speaker 2: coalition's nuclear plan.
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Speaker 9: As of yet, there is no demonstration that small modular
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Speaker 9: reactors actually work in a well, there are I just
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Speaker 9: gave that answer to it inside of China, And to
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Speaker 9: be clear, that's not the same kind of small modular
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Speaker 9: reactor you're talking about. That's essentially the model from the
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Speaker 9: submarine moved to operating outside of the water. So, but
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Speaker 9: coming back to my basic question, right now, we're agreeing
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Speaker 9: that there are no commercially, there are no small modular
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Speaker 9: reactors operating commercially in the world as we speak.
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Speaker 1: I've already answered that question. I've pointed to China.
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Speaker 9: You seem to disagree, and that's your right to disagree.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Sarah Ferguson the same journalists who ran a three part
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Speaker 2: series claiming Vladimir Putin put Donald Trump into the White
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Speaker 2: House now argues that small modular technology does not exist,
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Speaker 2: even though compact nuclear reactors power submarines.
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Speaker 1: All around the world, and they will.
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Speaker 2: Power ours too, and they're used on land in China,
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Speaker 2: and they're being rolled out in other countries. So it
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Speaker 2: has been fun over the past twenty four hours to
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Speaker 2: see ABC journalists suddenly worried about taxpayers money.
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Speaker 9: If you're so convinced that these projects are economically viable,
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Speaker 9: why not allow them to be built and run by commercial,
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Speaker 9: commercial businesses rather than put huge amounts of taxpayers money
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Speaker 9: at risk.
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Speaker 1: Look ordinarily, that'd be a fair question, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 2: But when is the ABC ever asked a question about
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Speaker 2: taxpayers money being pumped endlessly into renewable energy. When have
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Speaker 2: they questioned the subsidies and grants and the cost blowouts
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Speaker 2: in ridiculous projects like Snowy Hydro two point zero. Why
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Speaker 2: is it only coalition plans and non renewable plans that
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Speaker 2: are subjected to scrutiny. This is one of the questions
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Speaker 2: that must be troubling the new ABC chairman, Kim Kim Williams,
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Speaker 2: who gave a major speech last nights in which he
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Speaker 2: called yet again for more money.
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Speaker 1: To be invested in the ABC.
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Speaker 2: And he found a new way to describe the National
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Speaker 2: Broadcaster's role, saying it should become a sort of reimagined
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Speaker 2: national campfire, a place where we all come together to
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Speaker 2: share our ideas, dreams, friendship, and our sense of common
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Speaker 2: purpose to enable our country to face much of the
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Speaker 2: darkness beyond with confidence and strength.
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Speaker 1: The darkness beyond he must be thinking of that renewable
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Speaker 1: energy future.
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Speaker 2: And who doesn't like a good chat around a campfire anyway.
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Speaker 2: The trouble is that the ABC is like a binfire
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Speaker 2: at the moment, and asking for more money now is
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Speaker 2: like pouring petrol onto that fire. Now to the Gaza War,
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Speaker 2: the hostages and something bittersweet. There was a terrific story
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Speaker 2: on the ABC last night. They do produce some great
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Speaker 2: work here and there. Reporter Adam Harvey spoke with the
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Speaker 2: family of Jahn, one of the Israeli hostages taken at
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Speaker 2: the Nova Music Festival on October the seventh.
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Speaker 1: Last year and rescued last week.
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Speaker 2: There was one little snippet that was very moving, a
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Speaker 2: great example of why we need to keep talking about
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Speaker 2: the hostages, obviously for the humanity and to keep up
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Speaker 2: pressure on authorities, but also because you never know, as
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Speaker 2: you'll see at some time, in some way it might
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Speaker 2: give them some hope.
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Speaker 10: As the months passed, Almog's family made sure he wasn't forgotten.
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Speaker 10: But in Gaza there's war raged around them. The guards
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Speaker 10: told the hostages that Israel didn't care about them. That
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Speaker 10: fear remained until Almog caught a glimpse of the guard's TV.
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Speaker 11: They could see in Ja zeal And one of the
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Speaker 11: Saturday nights when he went to the toilet, saw his
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Speaker 11: picture in one of the rallies that we made in
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Speaker 11: Tel Aviv, and Danny understood that he han't been forgotten.
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Speaker 10: Andre Koslov is the first of these rescued hostages to
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Speaker 10: speak publicly.
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Speaker 1: I remember how Almock the first time so his picture.
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Speaker 1: He started to me, it's me on the poster, it's me,
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Speaker 1: and for him it was He started to breathe more freely.
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Speaker 2: You know, they knew they weren't forgotten. Amazing stuff, Remember
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Speaker 2: the hostages. I wear this badge for the hostages. One
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen hostages are still unaccounted for more than
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Speaker 2: eight months on they must be returned. Let's catch up
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Speaker 2: with One Nation leader Pauline Hanson now joining us alive
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Speaker 2: from Coenzian. Good to talk to you, Pauline, we missed
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Speaker 2: you last night. Give us your thoughts on this nuclear policy.
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Speaker 1: Is it going to fly?
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Speaker 12: I think we'll talking a lot of people, Chris, they
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Speaker 12: do support the nuclear people a bit concerned about it still,
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Speaker 12: but I think in the percentages is ways in the
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Speaker 12: favor of have a nuclear If we're going to address
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Speaker 12: carbon emissions, and that's main concern of people, climate change,
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Speaker 12: then this is the only way we need to go
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Speaker 12: with it. If the first reactor is not going to
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Speaker 12: be till twenty thirty seven, I still support those emissions
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Speaker 12: freequlified powerstations. We have to have a diversity of power.
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Speaker 12: And if the ABC is worried about the cost of
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Speaker 12: the taxpayer or the fact that it should be commercialized
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Speaker 12: and let others invest the moneys into it, which I
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Speaker 12: totally disagree with, then let's commercialize the ABC and start
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Speaker 12: saving one point one billion a year. And I think
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Speaker 12: that's the way to go. We save a lot of
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Speaker 12: money and not providing taxpayer funds to the ABC. Yeah,
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Speaker 12: it's all for I'm all for nuclear and Peter Darton
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Speaker 12: and the Liberal Parties policy on this. So we vote
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Speaker 12: for One Nation is to support nuclear power in Australia.
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Speaker 12: We have to have it.
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Speaker 2: It's good to have that nice and clear because the
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Speaker 2: Senate will be important no matter what happens. What do
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Speaker 2: you make of David Christoph Fully, the LMP leader in Queensland,
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Speaker 2: saying that he won't have a bar of it.
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Speaker 12: He's an absolutely moderate and it doesn't surprise me. Here's
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Speaker 12: one unknown only supported Labor's budget before it was actually released.
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Speaker 12: He actually was supportive of the native title, the Voice everything.
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Speaker 12: He's in the wrong party. He should be on the
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Speaker 12: other side. And that's hopefully if One Nation wins the
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Speaker 12: seats in Queensland that we can actually pull Christopher Lee
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Speaker 12: and he's left, lean his left east back to the
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Speaker 12: center and give Queensland good government for the people. Otherwise
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Speaker 12: he should be on Labor benches. He hasn't got any
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Speaker 12: common sense or policies.
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Speaker 4: Of his own.
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Speaker 1: You don't think that maybe the LMP really wants you
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Speaker 1: don't reckon.
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Speaker 2: He just wants to duck this argument for the state election.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't want the.
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Speaker 2: State election to be about nuclear power, and he might
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Speaker 2: change his mind after an election.
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Speaker 12: No, I don't believe you will. He stated it now,
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Speaker 12: and to go against the lives the federal The fact
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Speaker 12: is he should have just said, well, look, okay, we'll
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Speaker 12: go along with it, we'll look at it at the time.
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Speaker 12: But he's made the statement. He's dug his own Pete Grave,
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Speaker 12: he really has. And I hope that people see common
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Speaker 12: sense in this and vote for one Nation to be
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Speaker 12: the true government. You know, if we can get government, great,
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Speaker 12: but I can't see it happening. If we can get
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Speaker 12: the balance power and pull the L and P back
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Speaker 12: into some common sense policies, that's what our job is
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Speaker 12: going to be because we don't have an upper House
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Speaker 12: in Queensland, so it's a very important who we vote
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Speaker 12: into the lower House. We've had enough of labor and
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Speaker 12: now Christophile is heading done the same path with labor policies.
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Speaker 12: It's just absolutely ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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Speaker 2: The sensible line from him would have been to say
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Speaker 2: we'll have a look at it when it comes up,
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Speaker 2: not to react against it. Right now, I want to
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Speaker 2: speaking of the Queensland Labor government and your criticisms of that,
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Speaker 2: that was the focus of your Please explain cartoon last
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Speaker 2: week and you co opted the cartoon character Louie and
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Speaker 2: also Robert Irwin.
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Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of that cartoon, Lucky.
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Speaker 4: The State of queens Land's got a world class medical system.
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Speaker 1: Back of the Lord. Here along's the wait six months
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Speaker 1: boy Blue you cop. Oh no, it's the juvenile delinquents again.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, Blue's been bashed.
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Speaker 9: Well, lucky for us, we've got an awesome premium here in.
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Speaker 4: The State of Queensland.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff now, Pauline.
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Speaker 2: Robert Irwin's sent you threatening legal letters over that. He says,
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Speaker 2: this defametory wants you to pull the cartoon down.
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Speaker 1: Have you heard any more?
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Speaker 12: No, I haven't he sent the letter. I haven't actually
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Speaker 12: heard any more from it. I refuse to pull the
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Speaker 12: cartoon down. So it's still playing. And actually it was
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Speaker 12: yet yesterday I think it was. I was told that
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Speaker 12: it was trending eight in the world. So anyway, it's
22:53
Speaker 12: got a lot of coverage, thank you very much, Robert,
22:56
Speaker 12: and which people would know the state of Queensland. So
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Speaker 12: I hope a lot of Queenslands that Queensland has realized
23:01
Speaker 12: now the state that we're in, which is hell of
23:03
Speaker 12: a bloody mess. So anyway, I'm not pulling it down.
23:06
Speaker 12: And a outsider, a defamation lawyer, it said it's not famatory.
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Speaker 12: My Leeuis told me it's not diffamatory. So anyway, I'm
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Speaker 12: sticking with it. And all I've said it's light and up. Robert,
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Speaker 12: for Christ's sake, just clean up Queensland.
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Speaker 2: There's no way known it's defamatory. And absolutely all he
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Speaker 2: did is drawing a hell of a lot of attention
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Speaker 2: to it and as you say, that's probably why it's
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Speaker 2: trending so highly. Great stuff. Thanks for joining us, Pauline.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Pauline Anson. They're the one nation founder
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Speaker 2: and leader joining us live from Queensland.
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Speaker 1: We've got to go to the break.
23:36
Speaker 2: On the other side of that, will catch up with
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Speaker 2: Tim Blair and the creator of that cartoon, Mark Nicholson.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Donald Trump.
23:43
Speaker 2: Making it out Landy's claim yet again about Joe Biden,
23:46
Speaker 2: also climate protests vandalizing one of Britain's most iconic and
23:51
Speaker 2: ancient landmarks. Let's sort everything out now with Daily Telegraph
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Speaker 2: colus and blogger Tim Blair and also Mark Nicholson from
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Speaker 2: step Mate Studios.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again. Guys.
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Speaker 2: I know we're all interested in saving the planet now
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Speaker 2: and reducing emissions and changing the climate of the world.
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Speaker 2: People have been arguing about whether you do that with
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Speaker 2: renewables or nuclear energy, but some protesters in England have
24:17
Speaker 2: showed us we're all wrong. This is how you change
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Speaker 2: the climate. That ought to do it, Tim Bitter spray
24:34
Speaker 2: over Stonehengine, Bob's your uncle.
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Speaker 13: Well, until recently, I thought that the main cause of
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Speaker 13: the of grief for the climate processes was great works
24:44
Speaker 13: of art.
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Speaker 6: Turns out it was Stonehead doing a lawn. We should
24:47
Speaker 6: have known.
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Speaker 13: It was stone Engine on it will be next to
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Speaker 13: one of the oldest created informations.
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Speaker 6: Attacks on that in Australia. That would be the act
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Speaker 6: of that. I think you want to unite us.
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Speaker 13: In infury against these idiotic protesters. Go after some ancient
25:08
Speaker 13: Aboriginal art and see see how by that travels.
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Speaker 6: That'd be fascinating.
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Speaker 1: I've never been to stone Engine.
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Speaker 2: I thought spinal tap made it ridiculously small, but Mark
25:17
Speaker 2: is actually not that big anyway, they didn't have to
25:20
Speaker 2: waste too much spray at off.
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Speaker 1: I've never.
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Speaker 4: I've never been as well, mate, And I think you
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Speaker 4: know some of these protesters, you know, if they're if
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Speaker 4: they're really upset about emissions, like they've just gone ahead
25:31
Speaker 4: and just sprayed a whole bunch of CO two with
25:32
Speaker 4: the propellant with it. Whenever's in that spray pane, there's
25:35
Speaker 4: the petrol and the emissions from the Divvy van that
25:37
Speaker 4: took him there and the Divvy van that took him
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Speaker 4: to the prison cell. And if they really cared about emissions,
25:42
Speaker 4: you've got to look at China. Who are you know,
25:43
Speaker 4: putting up a new coal fire powerplane every five minutes
25:46
Speaker 4: and taking on all of the world's emissions. But I
25:49
Speaker 4: don't think they're going to vandalize the Great Wall of China.
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Speaker 4: I don't think, because it won't be prison, it'll be
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Speaker 4: the bloody death penally they'll get.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they should. They should take their spray to
25:57
Speaker 2: Tianaman Square. That'll work a treat.
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from the protests, well, I let's hear their arguments.
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Speaker 14: My name is Neive, I'm twenty one and I'm a
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Speaker 14: student at the University of Oxford. Today I'm taking action
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Speaker 14: with just a board to them, one that the UK
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Speaker 14: government commits to signing the Fossil Fuel on Predipation Treaty
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Speaker 14: and promises to stop owning fossil fuels by twenty thirty two.
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Speaker 14: Of us to do so, it's to warrant death, destruction,
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Speaker 14: and suffering with an absolutely immense and imagical scale and.
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Speaker 2: Tim She goes to Oxford University and she whispers because
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Speaker 2: if she speaks too loudly, too much CO two will
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Speaker 2: come from her mouth.
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Speaker 6: Are we sure so?
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Speaker 1: She?
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Speaker 13: I thought that was like Harry Potter's criminally malmourished younger
26:41
Speaker 13: brother or something. It was interesting that she or he
26:45
Speaker 13: or they had to specify their age, because I don't
26:47
Speaker 13: think anyone would have picked twenty one out of that
26:51
Speaker 13: out of any available list.
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Speaker 6: A little bit astonishing, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: You know, when you're people like that at the forefront
26:56
Speaker 13: of you know, fairly invasive and often violent protest movement,
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Speaker 13: they're not exactly putting their strongest troops forward, are they, mate?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I wouldn't have picked University of Oxford either.
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Speaker 2: I would have said more unsw or ups or something.
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Speaker 1: The thing is, when you look at listener, the.
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Speaker 2: Crazy nonsense that these protests spout, then let's listen again
27:19
Speaker 2: to the Climate Council, who try to be a body
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Speaker 2: of some sort of importance in this country, and they
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Speaker 2: spout stuff that's just as nutty.
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Speaker 1: Have a listen to this.
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Speaker 5: Their policy is just let it burn. Let the bushfires,
27:34
Speaker 5: the megaphires burn, Let the floods flood, Let the heat
27:37
Speaker 5: become unbearable. Let the climate crisis ruin the future for
27:40
Speaker 5: our kids.
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Speaker 1: This is the Climate Council mark.
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Speaker 2: This is the mob that Tim Flannery used to head
27:46
Speaker 2: that used to be taxpayer funded.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just literally nuts, and you know that.
27:53
Speaker 4: It's the tone. Even I can't actually see the footage
27:55
Speaker 4: for the first time from doing one of these crosses.
27:58
Speaker 4: But I can't actually see the footage, I can already
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Speaker 4: tell that they've got the you know, the eye roll
28:03
Speaker 4: tone to them as well. But I've lived through acid
28:06
Speaker 4: rain holes in the ozone layer. Like it's all it's
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Speaker 4: all burning, Crimson, everything's everything's going to die, everything's going
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Speaker 4: to destroy it. But like none of it's ever Like
28:14
Speaker 4: we've never got like a just a normal chat, just
28:17
Speaker 4: get some education, bring out some facts. It's all just
28:20
Speaker 4: doom and gloom and it's not resonating anymore. And so
28:23
Speaker 4: they throw the toys out of the cot. That's the
28:25
Speaker 4: next that's the next available option.
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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, all right.
28:28
Speaker 2: So we have a serious policy debate in Australia now
28:30
Speaker 2: about going to nuclear energy.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is not such this is not such a
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Speaker 1: step into the unknown.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's only China, Japan, Korea, France, the UK, Finland,
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Speaker 2: the US, Canada, you know, every developed nation is running
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Speaker 2: this power.
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Speaker 1: But somehow it's a great leap into the unknown.
28:47
Speaker 2: But so difficult is it for labor to actually run
28:50
Speaker 2: a sensible intelligence critique of this tim that they're running
28:56
Speaker 2: these three eyed fish and three eyed koalas, I mean,
28:59
Speaker 2: what is this say about the nature of their criticism?
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Speaker 13: They're running Simpsons jokes that were from the previous century.
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Speaker 6: That's where they're at. Like, seriously, they're that bad.
29:11
Speaker 13: They're running jokes from when The Simpsons was funny and it
29:14
Speaker 13: hasn't been funny for a long time. Oh look, there's
29:16
Speaker 13: poor blinky Bill. He's become aull triplied. The thing is,
29:19
Speaker 13: if they're that concerned about Australian's being mutated by nuclear energy,
29:23
Speaker 13: why aren't they getting Britney Higgins out of harm's way.
29:25
Speaker 13: She's only ninety minutes away from a nuclear facility in France. Well,
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Speaker 13: that's terrible, like to get the embassy involved, please.
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Speaker 2: Well exactly, Mark, we're sending the nation's greatest athletes to
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Speaker 2: France next month.
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Speaker 1: They're going to be all running around.
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Speaker 2: New powered only by nuclear energy, running around nuclear power stations.
29:45
Speaker 1: How can we put our athletes in.
29:47
Speaker 4: Such that's right, they won't be given high fives, Chris,
29:51
Speaker 4: They'll be doing high sevens because they'll all be genetically
29:54
Speaker 4: mutating from all the nuclear energy that's there. It's a
29:57
Speaker 4: sad time the Olympics in France.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got to.
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Speaker 2: Show you Tim the things you can see this. This
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Speaker 2: is tomorrow's cartoon in the Australian from our great mate
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Speaker 2: Johannes Leek, and he's got Peter Dutton with his nuclear
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Speaker 2: plan saying we're an innovative, ambitious nation.
30:11
Speaker 1: This shouldn't be beyond us. And Albo's got to sign up,
30:14
Speaker 1: saying it's all too hard. What's the matter with you?
30:16
Speaker 1: Man's you can't do spirit?
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Speaker 6: Oh Man.
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Speaker 13: That's a lovely book end to this segment because in
30:23
Speaker 13: your previous previous interview with Pauline Hanson you ran Mark's
30:28
Speaker 13: line about the bashing Bluey, which has had me laughing
30:32
Speaker 13: all week, and yeah, and then we ended with that one.
30:35
Speaker 13: It's a terrific way to bring the circle at full completion.
30:38
Speaker 13: We're living in a crazy age and it's good fun
30:40
Speaker 13: to be able to chat with you guys about it.
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Speaker 2: It's a great campaign Slagan for howb these isn't it?
30:46
Speaker 1: But we're too dumb as a nation. We're too dumb
30:49
Speaker 1: to do nuclear vote for the labor we reckon. You're
30:53
Speaker 1: too dumb to handle this.
30:55
Speaker 2: It's just insane, buttupid.
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it now.
31:02
Speaker 2: But that's when you think how stupid how politics are,
31:06
Speaker 2: then it's hard to think that the Great Republic is
31:09
Speaker 2: even stupid more stupid. But we're going to have a
31:12
Speaker 2: look and go to the US and look at the
31:14
Speaker 2: latest with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. We'll go to
31:18
Speaker 2: Joe Biden first and just have a look at this
31:20
Speaker 2: footage of him struggling to get into the limo. And
31:23
Speaker 2: a few people have suggested this shows how unfit he is.
31:26
Speaker 1: For honest office.
31:27
Speaker 2: And look at he does take a long while to
31:29
Speaker 2: get up into the into the chevy there.
31:32
Speaker 1: But you know, to be honest, Mark, I'll forgive him this.
31:35
Speaker 1: You know, the blokes in his eighties.
31:37
Speaker 2: We don't expect him to be particularly nimbile, nimble and agile.
31:42
Speaker 2: I don't want to pick on him for his age.
31:44
Speaker 2: The problem is he's mentally not up to it. Many
31:47
Speaker 2: many eighty three year olds are, but he's not.
31:52
Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think you've know it on
31:54
Speaker 4: the head. It is mutually exclusive. You know, it's a
31:57
Speaker 4: we can I think times when we're just laying the
31:59
Speaker 4: boot in unnecessary, Like he's definitely an old man, but
32:03
Speaker 4: it's probably not fit to be presiding over the government
32:07
Speaker 4: of America. It's pretty ridiculous. But I just the degradation
32:11
Speaker 4: is so so like intense. You're seeing it more and more.
32:15
Speaker 4: Like I remember when Joe first started. He was pretty old,
32:17
Speaker 4: but he was doing the you know, the arm swings
32:19
Speaker 4: as he was running to make a book, like jogging Joe.
32:22
Speaker 6: He doesn't do that anymore.
32:23
Speaker 4: Like, it's pretty sad. It's only been four years, but
32:26
Speaker 4: I reckon it feels like more like eighteen on Joe.
32:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been sad. That's the thing.
32:30
Speaker 4: It's just sad at this point.
32:32
Speaker 1: It might be about eighteen in Biden years.
32:34
Speaker 2: I've got to show you a little bit Now, of course,
32:36
Speaker 2: the debate's only about a week away, just over a
32:38
Speaker 2: week away, and I've got to show you this out
32:41
Speaker 2: courageous preview of the debate from Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Ever, look, is anybody going to watch the debate? He's
32:54
Speaker 1: going to be so pumped up. He's going to be
32:56
Speaker 1: pumped up.
32:57
Speaker 4: You know all that stuff that was missing about a.
32:59
Speaker 6: Month ago from the White House?
33:02
Speaker 1: What happened?
33:03
Speaker 6: Who left it?
33:04
Speaker 1: Somebody left it there?
33:05
Speaker 7: I wonder, let's see, somebody left a laptop in.
33:08
Speaker 2: An office of a gentleman who was supposed to fix
33:10
Speaker 2: the laptop from how he never picked it up.
33:13
Speaker 6: And somebody didn't pick.
33:14
Speaker 4: Up hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine.
33:18
Speaker 6: I wonder who that could have been.
33:21
Speaker 1: I don't know, Actually I think it was Joe.
33:27
Speaker 2: Now, now they we know they wrested Biden up for
33:30
Speaker 2: the big events, and somehow how they get him up
33:32
Speaker 2: for it. But he's really suggesting he's going to be
33:35
Speaker 2: getting into Hunter's cocaine stash.
33:38
Speaker 13: Well, he's obviously got to do something, you know, the
33:41
Speaker 13: needs must situation for the old Joe.
33:43
Speaker 6: He's the incredible thing.
33:44
Speaker 13: Though American late night TV presenters used to mock the
33:48
Speaker 13: President of the day routinely, but they're so now locked
33:51
Speaker 13: into defending Joe Biden that has left this whole wing
33:54
Speaker 13: of attack open to Donald Trump.
33:57
Speaker 6: He's actually performing.
33:58
Speaker 13: The stand up, the comedy role, the routines that used
34:00
Speaker 13: to be delivered you know, by by Letterman and by
34:03
Speaker 13: Leno and all these other people, Johnny Carson going way back,
34:06
Speaker 13: and now though he has the floor and he's delivering
34:09
Speaker 13: better lines' I'm not suggesting that lines.
34:16
Speaker 6: His routines are definitely better.
34:18
Speaker 2: You are so right those comics and the media now
34:22
Speaker 2: spending all their time trying to defend Joe Biden. I'm
34:24
Speaker 2: going to dig some of that out and show it
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Speaker 2: next week. Appreciate your time, gentlemen. I love talking to you.
34:29
Speaker 1: Catch up with you next week.
34:30
Speaker 2: Mark Nicholson and Tim Blair there taking us around the world.
34:35
Speaker 1: In just a few minutes. I've got to get to
34:36
Speaker 1: a break.
34:37
Speaker 2: On the other side, I've got to catch up with
34:38
Speaker 2: the Sydney radio start who's leading a campaign to raise
34:41
Speaker 2: the social media age limit. A lot of people supporting
34:44
Speaker 2: him on that. Also, a terrorist group banned in the
34:47
Speaker 2: UK is operating among our UNI encampments. Let's get back
34:56
Speaker 2: to the scourge of social media and Nova Sydney Breakfast
34:59
Speaker 2: host Michael whipper Whip is behind the thirty six Months initiative.
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Speaker 2: It's a campaign to raise the aged children can join
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Speaker 2: social media from thirteen years to sixteen, essentially buying teenagers
35:11
Speaker 2: an extra three years, an extra thirty six months to
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Speaker 2: mature and learn more about the dangers of social media
35:17
Speaker 2: before they're on it.
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Speaker 1: Whipper joins me from his home in Sydney.
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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, but this is a great campaign.
35:23
Speaker 1: What motivates you to work so hard for this, Chris?
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Speaker 6: I am a dad of three, My oldest is nine.
35:32
Speaker 15: When I read about some movement in the States to
35:34
Speaker 15: state by state they have different laws over there.
35:36
Speaker 6: Of course, I.
35:36
Speaker 15: Thought to myself, right, I've got four years to get
35:39
Speaker 15: this done before my eldest Ted turns thirteen, which is
35:44
Speaker 15: kind of the age by law. There's not a huge
35:47
Speaker 15: age gait when you get on these social media platforms.
35:51
Speaker 15: But my thought was, if I can get it done
35:53
Speaker 15: by the ages thirteen, maybe I can save him some
35:55
Speaker 15: of the trouble that people are finding themselves in now.
35:59
Speaker 15: And for a long time we've been having this conversation
36:01
Speaker 15: and we were learning more and more about the damaging
36:04
Speaker 15: statistics that are out there of what social media is
36:08
Speaker 15: doing to the young teenage minds of our kids.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you pain. I've got a couple of.
36:13
Speaker 2: Older boys who were sort of adults before social media
36:16
Speaker 2: really kicked in, so.
36:17
Speaker 1: They kind of escaped it. But I've got a couple of.
36:19
Speaker 2: Preteens now and I'm worried, sick, and I guess the
36:22
Speaker 2: idea is there's always pressure from their peers. But if
36:26
Speaker 2: everybody is banned until they're sixteen, then then you won't
36:29
Speaker 2: even get that. The big question is how do you
36:32
Speaker 2: enforce it, because obviously kids are getting around it. Now,
36:35
Speaker 2: how do we make sure that, Yeah, sure, let's get
36:37
Speaker 2: it up to sixteen, but make sure that sixteen those
36:40
Speaker 2: under sixteen can't get on.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, you know what, Chris, there's the study going on
36:44
Speaker 15: at the moment that the government's put some money towards.
36:46
Speaker 6: I think they put over six million dollars into it.
36:49
Speaker 15: Unfortunately, though, the study that's being done on the trials
36:52
Speaker 15: don't include the social media platforms.
36:54
Speaker 6: So it's one to put.
36:55
Speaker 15: To go through the idea of trying to, you know,
37:00
Speaker 15: look into how we could possibly do this, and we're
37:03
Speaker 15: talking about two factor verifications and things like that. But
37:06
Speaker 15: at least even if we don't include let's say there's
37:09
Speaker 15: two sides to it, the tech side and then the
37:11
Speaker 15: parental side. Now let's say we don't even include the
37:13
Speaker 15: tech side of it, just being able to arm the
37:16
Speaker 15: parents who currently feel powerless because they don't know what
37:19
Speaker 15: to do because little Timmy's coming home and saying, well,
37:21
Speaker 15: everybody else is I don't know, I'm the only one
37:23
Speaker 15: that's not.
37:24
Speaker 6: If we can get the power back in the parents,
37:26
Speaker 6: at least.
37:26
Speaker 15: They're going to be able to say, well, robbing a
37:28
Speaker 15: bank's illegal, shooting that guy's illegal, and being on social
37:32
Speaker 15: media part of the age of sixteen is illegal, and
37:35
Speaker 15: we're doing it for you. And second to that, we
37:38
Speaker 15: need that power back so that that can then sit
37:41
Speaker 15: within so that WhatsApp groups of all the parents at
37:44
Speaker 15: the school so they can get together and say, no,
37:46
Speaker 15: we're not doing this, we know how bad this is.
37:49
Speaker 2: That spot on it gives the power to the arm
37:54
Speaker 2: of parents.
37:55
Speaker 6: But also, I'm just terrible.
37:56
Speaker 2: I'll just throw in there. I don't believe the tech
37:58
Speaker 2: giants couldn't do this. We know they're so sophisticated in
38:02
Speaker 2: the way they track us and block us and feed
38:04
Speaker 2: us what they want. They could do this in a
38:06
Speaker 2: heartbeat if they wanted to. And so just finally on that,
38:09
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on just how optimistic
38:11
Speaker 2: you are given that Peter Dutton has really promised to
38:14
Speaker 2: do this if he wins power, and Anthony Alberinez he
38:17
Speaker 2: seems to be thinking, well, yeah, all right, he might
38:19
Speaker 2: sort of follow that lead.
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Speaker 6: You know.
38:21
Speaker 15: There was a bit of a dance from Albow with
38:23
Speaker 15: these words, but he was the one we spoke to first.
38:26
Speaker 15: Then mister Dutton came in and said, bang, I put
38:28
Speaker 15: it at the top of my list for the first
38:31
Speaker 15: one hundred days if my government has voted into power.
38:34
Speaker 15: And that was sensational. I think everybody and all parents
38:37
Speaker 15: were moved by hearing that. I think they were taken
38:40
Speaker 15: back to think, wow, we could actually get this done.
38:43
Speaker 15: So now we need something a little firmer from the
38:45
Speaker 15: Prime Minister. We need to match it or just do
38:48
Speaker 15: it now. You're right, we can do it now, and
38:50
Speaker 15: that would put the pressure on the tech. And the
38:53
Speaker 15: great thing is too Chris, I'm just one person having
38:56
Speaker 15: this conversation representing a whole heap of people, a whole
38:59
Speaker 15: lot of groups the raw already talking about this, and
39:01
Speaker 15: over one hundred thousand people on the petition. We merely
39:04
Speaker 15: have the platform to say enups enough and to draw
39:07
Speaker 15: a line in the sand and say come on, guys.
39:09
Speaker 1: I mean, the.
39:09
Speaker 15: Statistic that came out the other day was there's been
39:12
Speaker 15: a two hundred and seventy percent increase in hospitalization for
39:16
Speaker 15: girls between the age of ten and fourteen with self
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Speaker 15: harm in the last couple of years. And that's just
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Speaker 15: one statistic that's out there.
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Speaker 2: Brilliant work. Good on your great initiative. Thanks for joining
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Speaker 2: us in good luck with it. If you want to
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Speaker 2: sign that, I appreciate the time Chris there he is.
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Speaker 2: We're being a listening to him on Nova. Also, if
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Speaker 2: you want to sign that petition thirty six months dot
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Speaker 2: com dot au get on board and you can find
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Speaker 2: out more about it and join that petition as we're
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Speaker 2: per sent over one hundred thousand signatures already.
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Speaker 1: Let's stay on issues relating to our children.
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Speaker 2: Now and go to the Shadow Education Minister, Sarah Henderson.
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Speaker 2: Obviously you support that initiative, Sarah, because Peter Dutton's promised
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Speaker 2: to legislate it.
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Speaker 1: I want to go on to another issue that's.
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Speaker 2: Risen a childcare center in Paramattera in New South Wales
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Speaker 2: today where we learned that the preschool kids going to
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Speaker 2: a childcare center being educated about Pride months and learning
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Speaker 2: all about these LGBTIA diversity issues.
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Speaker 1: When these kids are three and four years old? Is
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Speaker 1: this appropriate?
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Speaker 16: Chris, good afternoon, and no, it's not appropriate. There is
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Speaker 16: no room in any education setting for activism or for indoctrination.
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Speaker 16: I heard a story in fact, her father wrote to
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Speaker 16: me the other day and said his child, four years
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Speaker 16: old went to an excursion, went to pick up a
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Speaker 16: shell on the beach and was told by the preschool
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Speaker 16: teacher don't touch that. You are on stolen land, that
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Speaker 16: is not your us. So there are some crazy stuff
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Speaker 16: going on in our childcare centers, in our schools, and
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Speaker 16: again we have seen a pathetic response from the but
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Speaker 16: easy government. The activism, the indoctrination is getting more and
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Speaker 16: more out of control and it's got to be stopped. Chris,
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Speaker 16: simple as that, how.
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Speaker 1: Would you stop it as federal minister.
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Speaker 16: Well, there are a range of challenges in how you
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Speaker 16: would stop it, because, of course, the schools are run
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Speaker 16: by the states and territories. AKARA is of course the
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Speaker 16: overarching agency responsible for our curriculum. Frankly, they need to
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Speaker 16: do a much better job. The government is not holding
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Speaker 16: a Kara accountable in so far as how they are
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Speaker 16: delivering the curriculum. Some states and territories are doing a
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Speaker 16: better job than other, but frankly, Chris, it gets down
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Speaker 16: to leadership in schools and it gets down to leadership
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Speaker 16: of state and federal education ministers. This should not be
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Speaker 16: tolerated in any form. For instance, when there was the
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Speaker 16: school teacher who effectively endorsed hamas shocking conduct by a
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Speaker 16: secondary school teacher in Melbourne, we saw the Education minis
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Speaker 16: to say nothing at all. That teacher continued in his
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Speaker 16: job for a number of weeks. We still don't know
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Speaker 16: whether he's lost his job, but that sort of behavior
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Speaker 16: is unacceptable. There are national codes of conduct for teachers
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Speaker 16: and frankly they must be complied with and if they're
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Speaker 16: not being complied with those teachers need to go just quickly.
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Speaker 2: His book to rear the Islamist organization that is legal
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Speaker 2: in Australia but has been banned as a terrorist sympathizing
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Speaker 2: group in other countries. It's been exposed as being involved
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Speaker 2: in these university protests. Now, how do you keep his
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Speaker 2: book careerter Rea out.
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Speaker 1: Of those settings?
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Speaker 2: And should the government be looking at banning that organization
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Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 16: Absolutely, as has happened in the UK, the government must
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Speaker 16: investigate banning this organization. Under the Criminal Code, any organization
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Speaker 16: which promotes or fosters or encourages terrorsts activity, they are
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Speaker 16: grounds to declare an organization a terrorist organization. So again
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Speaker 16: we have seen the government sitting very much on their
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Speaker 16: hands on this issue. It is alarming what is happening,
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Speaker 16: particularly at the University of Sydney. We warned two months
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Speaker 16: ago shut these encampments down. They will attract extremists, they
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Speaker 16: are inciting hate, they are inciting division and of course
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Speaker 16: shocking anti semitism, and I condemn any University Sydney has
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Speaker 16: now come to the party late. But frankly A and
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Speaker 16: U is doing an appalling job in not shutting down
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Speaker 16: its encampment. It is just not good enough. And of
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Speaker 16: course we now see these extremists flocking to our universities,
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Speaker 16: which is frankly, Chris, shocking.
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Speaker 2: Shocking and frightening stuff. Thanks for joining us, Sarah, I
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Speaker 2: appreciate it, Sarah Henderson.
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Speaker 1: They're the shadow Education Minister federally for the coalition. Got
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Speaker 1: to get to a break.
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Speaker 2: On the other side, I'll catch up with former Foreign
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Speaker 2: Minister Alexander Downlo.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Vladimir Putin dropping in on.
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Speaker 2: Kim Jong un and also the shopping forecasts for the
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Speaker 2: Conservatives in the UK general election. Let's go to Alexander
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Speaker 2: Downer in London. Thanks for joining us, Alexandra. I'm can
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Speaker 2: to get your take on Vladimir Putin dropping in to
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Speaker 2: catch up with Kim Jong un in North Korea.
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Speaker 1: And signing a defense pack. Is that anything new?
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Speaker 2: We know they've been close over the years, but this
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Speaker 2: is a new guarantee, really a security guarantee from Moscow to.
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Speaker 1: North Korea.
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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, there's nothing new about this at all, Chris.
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Speaker 7: They have a close relationship and through the Ukraine War,
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Speaker 7: the North Koreans have them particular been providing large numbers
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Speaker 7: of artillery shells to the Russians as the Russians have
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Speaker 7: run short of their own domestically produced supplies. So this
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Speaker 7: is much more an optical meeting than the meetings is
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Speaker 7: advancing the substance of the relationship. After all, this goes
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Speaker 7: back to the end of the Second World War, the
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Speaker 7: relationship between the then Soviet Union and the North Korean
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Speaker 7: So it's a continuation of a long standing relationship.
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Speaker 1: And Vladimir Putin has now moved on to Hanoi. What
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Speaker 1: of that?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that will be a more interesting relationship because,
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Speaker 7: of course, during the Vietnam War and in that period
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Speaker 7: there was a close relationship between the Soviets and the Vietnamese.
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Speaker 7: But Vietnam has an unhappy relationship with China. So I'm
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Speaker 7: not sure that this relationship is going to blossom into
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Speaker 7: anything particularly significant.
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Speaker 2: All right, fascinating stuff to watch, but I want to
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Speaker 2: bring it closer to where you are now and back
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Speaker 2: to the UK election, and there's a bit appalling around
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Speaker 2: to confirms. I suppose what we knew and what you've
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Speaker 2: been saying that it's going to be a disastrous election
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Speaker 2: for the Conservatives, but fascinating results really for the Reform
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Speaker 2: Party and Nigel Farage given his late entry into all
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Speaker 2: of this.
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Speaker 7: Well, there's a lesson in politics here for any side
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Speaker 7: of politics, which is political parties always have to keep
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Speaker 7: in mind their core supporters, and if you lose the
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Speaker 7: confidence of your course supporters, then it's very, very hard
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Speaker 7: to make any political progress. And what's happened here is
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Speaker 7: for a variety of reasons. Not for one reason, the
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Speaker 7: Conservatives have lost their Course supporters, many of whom have
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Speaker 7: drifted off to Reform Party, to Nigel Farage's party, because
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Speaker 7: they prefer his more strident and conservative political messages than
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Speaker 7: the messages of the Conservatives. But the other great lesson
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Speaker 7: here is that back into twenty nineteen, the Conservatives got
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Speaker 7: a whopping majority with Boris Johnson as their leader. He
47:05
Speaker 7: rarely resonated with particularly core Conservatives, but with a substantial
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Speaker 7: share of the public of the public, and then the
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Speaker 7: Conservative Party cut him down for one reason or another
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Speaker 7: over breaching the rules over COVID lockdowns, which was for
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Speaker 7: sure a huge problem, but the party rarely turned on
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Speaker 7: him and they've never really recovered from that. The last
47:31
Speaker 7: two years have just been a disaster for them. So
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Speaker 7: I mean, I personally think they'll be lucky to win
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Speaker 7: one hundred seats out of six hundred and fifty and
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Speaker 7: at the last election they won three hundred and sixty
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Speaker 7: five seats, so it's shaping up as a real disaster
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Speaker 7: for them.
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Speaker 2: Well just incredible, and out of that one hundred they're
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Speaker 2: going to need one person who can regalvanize and energize
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Speaker 2: them into the future.
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Speaker 7: This is a Canadian st what in the UK is
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Speaker 7: called a Canadian and Star situation. So back in nineteen
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Speaker 7: ninety three, the then Conservative government in Canada not only
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Speaker 7: lost the election but only won two seats, and there
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Speaker 7: was an alternative Conservative party called Reform actually the same name,
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Speaker 7: and it took years for the Conservatives and Reform to
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Speaker 7: come back together, and finally they did former government under
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Speaker 7: Steven Harper. But I mean, I think there's going to
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Speaker 7: be a lot of that. There will be the remnants
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Speaker 7: of the Conservative Party working with Nigel Faraj and Reform
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Speaker 7: in the future to see what can be resurrected for
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Speaker 7: Conservative voters.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff, fascinating stuff to watch. Thanks for analyzing for us,
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Speaker 2: Alexander Downer. I appreciate it. That's Alexander down a former
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Speaker 2: foreign minister in London. Your feedback on the nuclear power
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Speaker 2: plan from Peter Dutton and the coalition is very strong.
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Speaker 2: You tend to support it all. More on that next
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Speaker 2: week is Steve Price for Peter Quilin,