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Two Ts Getting the Tea with CAROLINE MANZO · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellancamps and Tambra Judge. Hi, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to a very special episode of Two Teas in
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  Speaker 1: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and yours truly, as
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  Speaker 1: Ellen says Tambra Judge, Tambra Judge and Teddy Mellencamp and
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  Speaker 1: Dambra Judge coming live from Mexico, Coming live from Mexico.
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  Speaker 1: But we have a very special guest, Caroline Manzo. I'm
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  Speaker 1: reading her exact bio because I don't want to mess
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  Speaker 1: anything up because, as y'all know she was, I was
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  Speaker 1: most nervous to interview her at Bravo con So. Caroline
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  Speaker 1: Manzo is the epitome of a strong New Jersey woman,
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  Speaker 1: always putting family first. She is a devoted wife, mother
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  Speaker 1: of three children, I'll be Lauren and Christopher. Caroline has
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  Speaker 1: been married for more than thirty years um and her
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  Speaker 1: husband Albert, who runs the Brownstone, a very successful catering
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  Speaker 1: facility in Peterson, New Jersey. She's often described as a
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  Speaker 1: feisty spitfire, and Caroline manages to have it all family, friends,
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  Speaker 1: and a career. She also has a new show, Food,
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  Speaker 1: Love and Chaos with Caroline Manzo, which second season debuted
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  Speaker 1: on March fifteenth on YouTube. You can follow her at
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  Speaker 1: Caroline Manzo Media on YouTube to watch. Okay, so what
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  Speaker 1: were you shooting yesterday? I was just doing my little
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  Speaker 1: YouTube show, my cooking show. When Isaacham's rock he was
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  Speaker 1: my guest, so he came over the house and we
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  Speaker 1: had fun. Yeah, that's so cool. Do you shoot Do
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  Speaker 1: you shoot it from your house all the time? Well?
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  Speaker 1: This this, uh, next couple of weeks, I want to
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  Speaker 1: start venturing out too. We went to Brooklyn last week
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  Speaker 1: and just went to all the different hot spots from
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  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, um and just trying to
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  Speaker 1: go to different restaurants and stuff. I'm doing everything myself.
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  Speaker 1: It's a learning curve, so like really sucks because you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what kind of money you're spending, what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just when you're doing it all yourself. It's
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  Speaker 1: a lot so to work in progress, but it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: At least it's mine and I don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about any nonsense, you know, right, you have to you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the bad at it exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing? To cut. Sunday dinner is my
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  Speaker 1: favorite thing because it's just involved. Sunday dinner means a
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  Speaker 1: million different things. It's like eight or ten different dishes
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  Speaker 1: and food constantly. So I would say Sunday because everybody's
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  Speaker 1: around and you never know what the day is going
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  Speaker 1: to turn into. So I very large blankets Sunday dinner. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so all your kids come, your husband, like you, just
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  Speaker 1: your entire family. Well, my husband may ever around, he's working,
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  Speaker 1: so no, not him. It's fine. Do do you have
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  Speaker 1: any kids to live at home any? No? I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think so. No they have. They've been out for years yet,
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  Speaker 1: and they all live close by. My boys are about
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half away. Um, they're down the shore,
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  Speaker 1: and Lauren is two towns over, so she's about ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes away, fifteen minutes. So you get to see your
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  Speaker 1: granddaughter alive. She's here right now. She's this week so
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  Speaker 1: she's got a little bit of a fever. So she's
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  Speaker 1: upstairs with my husband right now. How old is she now?
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  Speaker 1: She just turned six? Oh my good mass so cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun used to say, you know all the
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  Speaker 1: time with people with the grandkids, like, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear about your grandkids. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: your kids. I don't care, but you gotta make believe
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  Speaker 1: you do. But now I understand it. So apologies to
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the past. Well that's that's how I feel
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  Speaker 1: about cats. Like I don't want to see a picture
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  Speaker 1: of your cat. I don't fire my cat right now,
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  Speaker 1: Like don't care to see it. Just so we get
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  Speaker 1: it all. Just we start and we get it done with,
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  Speaker 1: and then we can move on to more positive things.
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  Speaker 1: I just like to throw it right out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Brandy's been tweeting up a storm. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you've seen the tweets. I haven't, Okay, So essentially, she said,
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  Speaker 1: I can speak on anything I want to speak on
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  Speaker 1: at the end of an eighteen hour work day at
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  Speaker 1: our belly dancing. I'd like to see the footage of
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  Speaker 1: it beforehand, as both myself and Caroline were very intoxicated.
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  Speaker 1: I am sick of this narrative. I was hired for
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  Speaker 1: a second season because people loved me and I was
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  Speaker 1: told to bring the party. My question is for you, like,
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  Speaker 1: after hearing that, how do you feel and what is
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  Speaker 1: kind of your response to it? Um? You know this
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  Speaker 1: was very traumatic for me. This is a really large
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  Speaker 1: onion with a lot of layers, all right, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess it'll play out. Um. That statements disappointing to me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to talk too much about
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  Speaker 1: it because I'm going through a lot with it and
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  Speaker 1: i'm processing it all. Have you talked to Brandy at all? No? No,
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  Speaker 1: And there's still an investigation going on? Or is that
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  Speaker 1: over with? Oh that's over, that's over. M Yeah. Well
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you're going going through that. Um. Would
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  Speaker 1: you ever do Girls Trip again but with a different cast? Never? No? No? Never? Never? Never? Never?
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  Speaker 1: What what about going back to a real Housewives in
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey? Never? Never? Huh wow, Okay you're happy? Were
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  Speaker 1: you considering maybe back then? Um? You know, I've heard
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  Speaker 1: a lot of buzz that they wanted you to come back.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, It's always the buzz every year. Who
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  Speaker 1: the heck knows what's true what's not? I know over
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  Speaker 1: the years, multiple times I've been asked this last season
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  Speaker 1: being one of them. Um, it was. It was something
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  Speaker 1: that was I was done with and happy to be
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  Speaker 1: done with it. I walked away for a reason for
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  Speaker 1: me to go back, I always said for me to
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  Speaker 1: go back, it would have to be something that was
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  Speaker 1: a number that was financially irresponsible to walk away fast.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Yeah, like financially irresponsible, like
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  Speaker 1: how do you walk away? And I've been off for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money, you know, in the real world,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but it's just never anything that was worth
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  Speaker 1: it to me to go back to that. Um right,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta do what's right. So now now, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: But what about Bravo cons Because I saw you, we
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  Speaker 1: did we did an interview together time. I remember feeling
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  Speaker 1: so nervous. I was like, they were like, who are
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  Speaker 1: you most nervous to interview? And I was like, Caroline, Man,
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  Speaker 1: she's just like so like everything I know about it.
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  Speaker 1: But then you were so kind and fine and easy
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  Speaker 1: to talk to. But I was like, my misconception about me.
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  Speaker 1: I am the most easygoing person alive. I don't give
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  Speaker 1: a lot to the cameras because we I think as housewives,
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  Speaker 1: we all have that a little bit of PTSD that
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  Speaker 1: you don't know what's gonna happen, so you're very very reserves.
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  Speaker 1: I for one, am very very reserves. You know. I'll
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  Speaker 1: sing and dance with my family and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I won't do it on housewise because I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 1: Years ago they did that too. It was Ramona and
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  Speaker 1: she was dancing and they put it She probably was
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  Speaker 1: dancing fine, but they put this music to her that
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  Speaker 1: she looked like a freaking ass. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I thought happens live. You think of these things like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that because I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna do with it, you know kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I didn't got me to this place.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of housewives. It makes me nervous.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, no, you're not one of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very easy going, I'm super laid back. I think maybe,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. It was probably fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years ago. I was in New York doing press and
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  Speaker 1: we went to dinner. We went to I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: was an epic night. Yeah, that was who else was
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  Speaker 1: at dinner? That was fun? It was couples. Teresa was there,
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  Speaker 1: Jacqueline was there, the husbands were there, um, And then
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  Speaker 1: we had dinner. Then we went across the street to
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  Speaker 1: the gay bar across the street. Remember, Yeah, we had
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  Speaker 1: some drinks and um that the rest was history. The
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  Speaker 1: rest is history. That's what it was fun in the
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  Speaker 1: early days before the natural media. You know, social media
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  Speaker 1: is like the greatest thing in the world and social
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  Speaker 1: media is the devil at the same time. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a double ledged sword. Um. You know, when I left,
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  Speaker 1: it was social media was just starting to be like
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  Speaker 1: a real big thing. Um. So like now when you
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  Speaker 1: do the you know, the ads and stuff and you
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  Speaker 1: have the overlays, my brain wants to explode because social
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  Speaker 1: media has taken over there. You have TikTok, you have
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  Speaker 1: every a million different ways to get out there. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a good thing or a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing. It's just it's just a lot of more
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  Speaker 1: stuff that we got to worry about getting out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: can you remind us how did you get cast on
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey? Purely by accident? Um? There was the group
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  Speaker 1: I guess Cyrus went around to salons in our area
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  Speaker 1: and they said, well, affluent women over the top, YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: So the person that owned the salon mentioned everybody but me,
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  Speaker 1: which makes sense because again, super low key, I don't
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  Speaker 1: wear makeup. I'm not like you. Know it's not me,
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  Speaker 1: so I understand me not being mentioned. So they were
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  Speaker 1: doing I guess the sizzle reels. They were going around
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  Speaker 1: to everybody's houses and Jackline at the time literally lived
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  Speaker 1: half a block of white. So she goes, we need
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  Speaker 1: to go over my sisian Will Caroline's house. So she
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  Speaker 1: calls me up in true Jacqueline style. All right, cameras
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  Speaker 1: are coming over and I'm like, no, Jacqueline, they don't
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  Speaker 1: need to come over. I hang up the phone. They're there,
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  Speaker 1: So she sent them and then she called me and
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  Speaker 1: I said, listen, I don't belong on the show. Blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah, and they tape and then um they wanted
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  Speaker 1: me and I said, no, I'm not going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: And they said, well, we need you for the balunce.
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  Speaker 1: That's because I'm a lot older than them. I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't hang the way they hang. I
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  Speaker 1: don't do all that. At the time. I had three
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  Speaker 1: kids in high school at high school, and they said, no,
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  Speaker 1: we need need you for the bounce, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, you know, it was more of
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  Speaker 1: a family yeah show. I mean there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people from your family and I just though it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of weeks long and you know, done,
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  Speaker 1: boom gun, and everybody forget about it, never thinking in
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  Speaker 1: a million years it would turn into where it turned into.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Melissa saying that you were
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  Speaker 1: too old to come back to the cast? Well, she
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  Speaker 1: did say it. I remember her saying it, but I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate her for saying it. You gotta remember
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  Speaker 1: at the time, I'm twenty years older than her. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so she's in early thirties. I'm fifty two or whatever. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to hang with that when you're thirty,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm a fun chasten But like,
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  Speaker 1: I disagree. I disagree with what she says. Like on
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  Speaker 1: our cast right now, we have girls. We have a
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  Speaker 1: girl in her thirties. I'm fifty five, but I twenty. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think, and again, I remember I remember her saying it,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember being bothered for half a second back
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  Speaker 1: then because I kind of heard it through the door.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, but then, when you think about it now,
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  Speaker 1: when you think about it back then, it's a kid talking.
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  Speaker 1: It's a thirty year old kid talking. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: take no offense to it then, and I take no
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  Speaker 1: offense to it now. It's silly knowing their history. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that Melissa and Teresa are done for good?
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  Speaker 1: I think so, really, I think so. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what happened. I know the
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  Speaker 1: cliff notes of what happened. Yeah, but there comes the
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  Speaker 1: point we just gotta be like, like, everybody's got to
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  Speaker 1: be sick of it at this point. But my question is,
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  Speaker 1: do you think that it's truly do you think it's
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  Speaker 1: Melissa or do you think it's actually Joe and Teresa
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  Speaker 1: Like they keep saying it's you know, it's Melissa involved.
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  Speaker 1: But in my opinion, when I'm watching it, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: Joe and Teresa are the ones that really seem to
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  Speaker 1: have that list is pretty neutral. Well, she's you know, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I remember, way way way back in the day. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Melissa is not wrong. Melissa is not wrong because I remee.
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  Speaker 1: You listen, Sometimes she behaves badly and sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're when you fire back, you fire, you have
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  Speaker 1: a misfire kind of thing. But um, Melissa's not wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and listen there over the years, she's done some crappy
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  Speaker 1: things I would have done about how much how much
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  Speaker 1: can you take before you start store, before you start
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  Speaker 1: hitting back? But I remember years and years before TV,
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  Speaker 1: before TV, that it would always be something's bent said
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  Speaker 1: about Melissa, that we were so conditioned to dislike her
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  Speaker 1: when we met her. And I apologize to both her
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  Speaker 1: and Kathy because we were so conditioned almost brainwashed to
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  Speaker 1: dislike them before we met them, that we treated them
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  Speaker 1: when they first came on the show, and um, I
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  Speaker 1: apologize in the booths and saying that you know that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't cool, but I was conditioned to think that way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what made you ultimately decide to leave toxic? To change
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  Speaker 1: my world? It changed by the dynamic in my house
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  Speaker 1: because you girls know as well as I do, when
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  Speaker 1: you finished filming, that doesn't mean it's over. That's a
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  Speaker 1: year round thing. That's when the text starts and film
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  Speaker 1: easy part. Yeah, and it filming is the easy part exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But if I'm talking within the caste, yeah, that's when
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  Speaker 1: you have the phone calls and what to do next
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  Speaker 1: and who's going to hang out with him? When it
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  Speaker 1: just it stops? Why did you say that? Why didn't
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  Speaker 1: you defend me? This, and I'm like, I don't even,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even. I don't know why I said it.
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  Speaker 1: I felt I said what I meant whatever, So it
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  Speaker 1: was just became something that was just non stopped, non stop.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have the people that you know are
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  Speaker 1: obsessed with, you know, the fame and getting there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to having that moment or their face on the magazine
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  Speaker 1: cover that'll do anything to take you down as long
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  Speaker 1: as they shine. Okay, whether it be a truth or rely,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And I'm like, I'm too old for
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  Speaker 1: this nonsense. You know, why are you doing this? So
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the primary issue was with Teresa?
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  Speaker 1: You just said that people let fame get to their head.
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  Speaker 1: Was it that or what do you think kind of
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  Speaker 1: triggered it for you? For Teresa myself? Yeah, our argument,
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  Speaker 1: your guess is as good as mine. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that if we're being honest, you know, back
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  Speaker 1: in the day and I'm talking the heyday of Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: it was Caroline Teresa, Caroline, Teresa, Caroline Teresa. That's who
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  Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. And you know, she doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: to share the light with anybody, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: maybe that may have been a little bit of it,
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  Speaker 1: but you're talking to somebody that truly doesn't give a shit,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, ahead, take the light, you want to
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  Speaker 1: take it, let it shine roll. I could care less
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  Speaker 1: because there's plenty about There's plenty of stuff out there
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. That's what everybody forgets. We each have our
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  Speaker 1: own demographic and we each have our own people that
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  Speaker 1: are gonna like us, dislike us, and there's plenty to share,
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  Speaker 1: so everybody could eat. But I don't think she yet
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of the fans were saying they thought
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  Speaker 1: it was because of what happened off camera and Punta
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  Speaker 1: Cana where Teresa was spraying champagne on people and your
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  Speaker 1: boys got upset about it. That does that, haven't I
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  Speaker 1: got upset about it? Was she was spraying. We were
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  Speaker 1: Punta Cana and she there was this big bottle of champagne,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember I was standing in the front, she
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  Speaker 1: was behind me, and all of a sudden, I I'm soaked.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why am I all wet? And then
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  Speaker 1: I realized she sprayed champagne onto the ground in the
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  Speaker 1: club and there were patrons there that took offense to it.
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  Speaker 1: Um one thing led to another before you know it
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  Speaker 1: is a brawl. Oh my, so we chained in Puntakana.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. My boys pass sports revoked and
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  Speaker 1: we said for a week. So you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: that behavior over and over again. It's it's just a
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  Speaker 1: it's a constant bad behavior that's not bad behavior continuously
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  Speaker 1: is rewarded over and over and over again. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the problem. You don't see that a lot. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: to say the Least Housewives was not your jam, but
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: then you did move on to Man's Own with Children?
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  Speaker 1: Yea three seasons? How was that different? Was that fun
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  Speaker 1: to do? Or I miss Manson with Children terribly? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: We had We had fun. And who's better than me
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do fun things and have my
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  Speaker 1: husband and children with me. You know, that was a gift.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a big deal to have your own spin
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  Speaker 1: off like that, to have your own family show. It's
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  Speaker 1: not easy. And she was one of the only people
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  Speaker 1: to get a multi season spin off about it. There
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  Speaker 1: is Kim. I mean, yeah Kim and yeah Kim. That
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  Speaker 1: was so successful, But the that went off the three
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  Speaker 1: season it's the biggest mystery to me because the ratings
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  Speaker 1: were great, and we were like, why was it canceled?
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  Speaker 1: You know, give you any answer to that? I think
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  Speaker 1: they kind of said we were, in so many words,
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  Speaker 1: we were too normal. That's not a horrible thing. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when people act like normal is the worst thing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Bringing it back to another one of your shows, the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Cooking Show. If you had to pick to have one
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: of these two people on to cook with you, would
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it be Teresa or Daniel stab Um hm, Teresa. Who
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: who do you actually you talk to on the cast?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Current cast? Well? Uh, Kathy every every now and again. Um,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Dolorous of course. Um, we love Dolores. Dolores is off right,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Frank love. Frank tells you what's on to mind. Her
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: kids are the best thing. I know her kids sincere
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Pint's Eye, so I've known her a thousand years. Do
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: we like Do you like Polly? I do like Polly? Yeah?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: He seems nice. Yes, Yeah, she deserves it. You think
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: she's going to get the ring? I don't know if
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: she wants the ring? Think I What I do know
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is Frank doesn't want her to get a ring. Crank
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: does not want her to get it. Right. You know
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: they're they're's such a it's the family dynamic there is
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so unusual, but it works for them. And you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I always say that she should write a book on
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: how to divorce properly because I remember way way back
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in the beginning when things weren't great between them and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and how they'll help fall. They've come and they really
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the great things about you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: know when you say reality TV, that they could put
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: this relationship out there and say, you know what, even
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: though you get divorce, doesn't mean you have to be
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: bitter enemies. Yeah, it's refreshing because it's usually the opposite.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: They hate each other, they can't be around each other.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Do you currently watch the show? I have not watched
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: anything has Wife since I left. I always say, why
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: would I Why would I aggravate myself for free? You
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? True? Yeah? True? Can you help
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: us because this is where I'm a little bit lost
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and we're trying to go back and forth because this season,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I know you don't watch, but there's so many discussions
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: about people who are not on the show, whether they
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: were friends on the show, to be on the show,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But I am still a little
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: bit confused on the insight between what happened with Dina
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and Dolores, because no, I'm not gonna talk about We're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: not gonna talk about it. Oh my god. We don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: need a little player, please, Like I said, look at
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: agavate for free. Well that's what I do. I have
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a million dollars question, But my question is if it
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was reversed. Did you hear that it was going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: be Dina as a bridesmaid and then all of a
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: sudden when Dina was no longer a bridesmaid? Then she
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: asked Alris that was this week's episode? Tersa did okay? Yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: so yes, and was a bridesmaid? Yes? Yes, I did hear.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I know I did hear recently for somebody that knows
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: both of them that it was more about Dina not
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: wanting to film. Okay, that's what I heard, So it
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't a fall out, Caroline responding with that's just what
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I had. So you know, you know, Caroline, I have
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Dina that lives a mile away from me, and Jacqueline
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that's moving by me. Okay, I I know Jackylin's going
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: did she get a house yet? I don't even know
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: if she got I. I just talked to her yesterday.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: She found a house that they Chris found a house
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that he really likes, and she says she trust her husband.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited for her to move. We're already talking about.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I keep joking with her. I'm like, I can't wait
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to have the first housewife party at your house. And
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: she's like, it ain't happening. Oh it will. Jackyline cut
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in her life and I said, oh, you're fold, you'll
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: fold you She'll fold for sure. Yeah. Yeah. If she's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: doing all these podcasts, I feel like she'll fold, yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Jack And she Yeah, that's her thing. Jackelin's always done
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: well podcasts like I'm Selective and stuff like, and she
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: has her own podcast too, so yeah, that's her thing.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: She loves to talk to people and she'll do it
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to aviews because she gets a kick as she's a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: people person. So um, oh she is for sure. Yeah,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I love her. Well, what about what did you think
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: about her hanging out with Teresa. I thought it was great.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think that they really missed
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: each other. And that's where the venom came from, because
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it came from a place of hurt um. They really were,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you know, very very good friends, and as you girls know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the show gets in the way of relationships a lot,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and I think that that it was a casualty of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the show. And I'm happy that they're back together, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I hope it remains that way, and I hope that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: they don't want the nonsense get in the way of things,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because they truly were very good friends. I'm happy for
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the boat. Do you seem like you have a really
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like a good heart. I'm like talking to you. I'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: not the monster, they say, I am. Oh my god,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I only play an asshole on TV. Yeah, that's what
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I tell people. Speaking of playing, do you still play
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the ham game? We do not. That was Oh my god,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That was My children have full
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: blown adults there. They have place coming up Laurence thirty
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: five next week, and then my boys are gonna be
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: thirty four and thirty seven. Oh my god, tell us
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: what they're doing? What are they up to? They there
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: were a lot of good things. The boys are very
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: very busy. They have a hospitality groups with restaurants and stuff.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So we have a couple of really big projects. What
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they do. I say, way, but they have a couple
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: of really big projects in the summer down the shore.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Lawrence got to of course our business appear. And the
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: baby's six. So everybody's doing this thing. They're world grown up.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Like everybody said, your kids, your kids, but they're full
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: grown adults doing adult things. Does she want more kids? No? No,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: no one and done morning, done with her. I'm sorry
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: for that, but okay, whatever, Well your boys, your boys
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: will have kids, we'll see. Not my business. I let
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: them do it. That's another thing. People think, Oh, I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: up well up, like I don't know. I don't want
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: anything about them what they want to tell me, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: listen to not live your life? Right? How far away
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: do all of you guys live in Jersey? Like when
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you were all you know, when you were on the show.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: But even now I can't figure out because I haven't
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: been to Jersey that often. Like is it a small
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like in Beverly Hills or Orange County. Everybody's all over
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the place, right, Like, is it the same in Jersey?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Are you guys all kind of in the same area. No,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Jersey has little pocket areas, so you could like, like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: let's say, for instance, Dina me and Jacqueline were all
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: within a half mile of each other, so we could
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: literally walk to each other's house in a row. We
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: were one, two, three, and at that time when when
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Kathy built her house, she was two. Could sucks now
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: so I could walk to Jack Kathy's house. Now she
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: just moved to where Joel Melissa get live and that's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: probably about a mile and a half away from me.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So everybody's relatively how far is Polly? Because we see
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: his house it's so amazing, but you look at the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: back and it's overlooking water. Well, he's on the Hudson,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: so he's about a half hour away. I figured he
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: was little ways away because it looked different. Do you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: think he's the most of fluent one now, oh Polly? Yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: we're trying to I don't know the other. I don't know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's Joe. I mean, you don't know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't search their net worth
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: on the fair time? I don't know. Um, so you're
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: asking of the crew I know, I don't. I don't know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I know that Polly does well, yes, um it looks
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like he does. So have you who when you were
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: at Bravo con was there any housewife that you were like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I love her that you hadn't met before,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And was there anybody that kind of left date not
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the best taste in your mouth? Bravo? Con was a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: blessed love. Bravo. Con Um No. I was shocked at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: all the young kids coming to me and they were
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: literally doing this to me, which my mind, because you
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: don't think of yourself that way, you know when you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: think of that Timber were pioneers, Yeah, franchise, so you
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: don't think what it means to the young ones coming
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in a bad taste. No, you know how it is?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: He did turn around every ten feet is a story
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to be told, you know, if you just watch and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: listen enough. I told you know, my son's told Andy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They said you made a mistake by not having I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: don't think they. I don't know if it was Andy.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Just so many productions at that hotel. This should be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: cameras rolling twenty four seven, Oh for sure. Yeah, there
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: was so much shit going on down at that bar.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I know that was the place to be. Um, would
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you go again this year? I'm not sure. I don't know.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, didn't you tell me that was it your
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: sister in law you were with was mistaken for me.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that was Alby's girlfriend's mother, and everybody ming
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: camera at her. She looks up, You're built to like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you look alike. She just started going with it by
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the issue was way so I guess something that was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: with me they were so maybe they're together doing something. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: it was fun. It's so funny. Um, if I know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: we want to give a little bit of time, but
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we want to talk a little bit more about your
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: cooking show. If you were going to have me and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Tamera on, what would you have us? What would we
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: cook too? Well, I don't I don't know what kind
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of cooks I'll see. I would want you're terrible. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: would speak for yourself. I would want you to do
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: something that's from your culture, that means something to you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: when you were growing up. That's what I tried to want.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Like last night, Isaac Zrahi came, but we wound up
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: just bullshitting and talking about stuff and I made a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: quick pasta prima era. But what I want to do
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: is like what makes you smile, Like what makes your
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: heart happy as far as food goes, And that's what
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I sign from your childhood that brings you there. My
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: mom makes this smash chicken, like flat and chicken with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like bread crumbs on it, and like still to this day,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: whenever she comes into town, she's like, do you want
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: me to make it? And I'm like please, it's the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: only time I have it, like smashed rick and then
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: she does mashed potatoes and like green bean casserole. But
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: now face, look at your face as you're talking about it. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like you got it. The smile loess of emotions. So
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to say, Like with food, that
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: food even it's fun and it's an emotion, so it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: brings you back to a lot of things. So that's
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm going to try to do with my guesses.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: No you cook something, you cook something for me that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: means something to you. So yeah, I've always wanted to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: know how to make spaghetti sauce. I've never made it
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: from scratch ever. Really so easy, so easy. My mom
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: used to make it when we were kids and it
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was so good. But I'm like, you're like, rows here
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: we go. No what And if that makes you happy,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: throw a little wine and throw a little gallic doctor
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it up in a cool at a day and it'll
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: be fun. I've done that before, but I want to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: make it from scratch. That's what I want to do. Well,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: one day we will. It's very easy. Your town, come over,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: we'll cook. I want to be you. You could do
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a live podcast from my house. Okay, from the Browns.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Don't you do that too. Don't want to have to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: ask us twice. You don't threaten us with a good time. Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I know. I've never wanted um uh positive for breakfast
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: more than I do right now. I know because I'm
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in Mexico. Right now, I'm like, this sounds delicious a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: lot better than this green whatever it is. Well, let'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: feel sorry for you in Mexico. I'm sitting in my
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: basement right now, so I have to go upstairs round true. Well,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I'm off to go swim with my kids. Thank you,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: guys so much, Thank you, Caroline. Thank you for sharing
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: so much. You and you know, I know lots about
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to play out, and we just wanted to say that
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: we're thinking about you and anything that you need from us,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: please let us know. Thank you, Thank Caroline. Guys, thank
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you