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#2102 How Does Your Environment Affect Your Health? - Dr. Cam McDonald · The You Project

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Speaker 1: I get a team. Craig Anthony Harper is my name.
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Speaker 1: The You Project is the show. Doctor Cam McDonald is
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Speaker 1: the guest. He's a gun, he's a friend. He's an academic,
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Speaker 1: he's a business owner. He's an inspirer of humans and
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Speaker 1: teacher for young, hungry and old hungry minds.
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Speaker 2: There you go. How's that made?
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Speaker 3: Is that? All? Right?
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Speaker 2: Did I do like you told me? Make it good?
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Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 2: I did my best?
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Speaker 3: That's all I can ever ask of you. Hups? And
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Speaker 3: that's It's a younger version of me would have just
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Speaker 3: been putting a lot of judgment around what your best is,
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Speaker 3: you know, But now I just appreciate everyone's doing it.
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Speaker 3: You know, they're doing everyone's at all times.
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Speaker 2: That is so true. That is so true.
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Speaker 1: I just had a meeting with a dude that I'm coaching,
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Speaker 1: and I can't tell you anything other than a dude
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Speaker 1: and coaching. But I can tell you, well, I guess
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Speaker 1: I can tell you a few things without giving anything
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Speaker 1: away that I shouldn't. But very very high up in
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Speaker 1: a very big organization, and we were talking about problem solving, communication, leadership,
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Speaker 1: conflict resolution, all the stuff, and we were just talking
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Speaker 1: about which ties into my PhD, but you get it,
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Speaker 1: just this idea of not necessarily agreeing with people, but
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Speaker 1: understanding people and realizing in the moment that you and
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Speaker 1: I are in the same chat but not the same experience.
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Speaker 1: And then so, how do I have this conversation with
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Speaker 1: you knowing that you're not thinking or seeing or feeling
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Speaker 1: or experiencing what I am, while still building connection and rapport,
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Speaker 1: knowing that I might think A and you might think
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Speaker 1: B be and that's not a problem. So this whole
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Speaker 1: other awareness of trying to really like, genuinely understand how
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Speaker 1: other people experience things, see the world, see the situation,
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Speaker 1: navigate problems, interpret data or experiences so that you can
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Speaker 1: build real trust, connection, rapport, not based on the fact
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Speaker 1: that you like them necessarily, but just that you understand them.
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Speaker 1: It's a big It's a thing that people don't really
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Speaker 1: think about and accept them.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's been the It's the star that
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Speaker 3: we've spoken about on a different episode, But the really
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Speaker 3: navigating my subconscious in a proper way really really help
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Speaker 3: with that process. You just realize how many of your
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Speaker 3: reactions are due to a bit of fear and the
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Speaker 3: way that people see things like even though, I was
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Speaker 3: just having a chat with my co parent about a
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Speaker 3: particular person that she was having an event to me about,
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Speaker 3: which is all good, it's part of the game, yes, yes,
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Speaker 3: And what was going through my mind is this person
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Speaker 3: is absolutely trying the best that she possibly can, but
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Speaker 3: her best is to be great and is to be
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Speaker 3: a little bit judgmental, and is to put it because
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Speaker 3: she is just scrambling to feel a sense of safety
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Speaker 3: and belonging. And the way that it projects with our
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Speaker 3: very masked minds and expressions that we have is to
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Speaker 3: come across quite uncaring when it's there's so much care happening,
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Speaker 3: it's just it's a panic. It's so fascinating to you
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Speaker 3: can only really get that if you're constantly investigating into
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Speaker 3: your own space. That's saying why am I responding that way?
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Speaker 2: Exactly?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And knowing that from the outside looking in, you
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Speaker 1: might be looking at something where their response or their
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Speaker 1: reaction or their state is completely inconsistent with what's actually
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Speaker 1: happening from your perspective, right, But then knowing that I
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Speaker 1: might look at that and go as objective as I
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Speaker 1: can be. To me, this seems like a one out
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Speaker 1: of ten problem, but for them, it's an eleven and
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Speaker 1: their literal experiences this is an eleven.
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Speaker 2: So and they have no idea.
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Speaker 1: That that's a self imposed idea and belief which is
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Speaker 1: now manifesting in a personal reality. And then so for
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Speaker 1: the you know, the clunky bloke or girl or whatever lady,
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Speaker 1: just from the outside you're like, well, she's just carrying
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Speaker 1: on or he's just carrying on about fucking nothing, But
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Speaker 1: to them it's everything. So it's not about oh, I
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Speaker 1: need to think like you or agree with you, or
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Speaker 1: endorse you. I just need to know that what you're
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Speaker 1: thinking and experiencing for you is one hundred percent correct
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Speaker 1: as an experience, you know, not perhaps factually or objectively.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's like I always say, the.
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Speaker 1: Dumbest advice that gets given every fucking day, billion times
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Speaker 1: is telling worried people not to worry.
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Speaker 2: I don't worry. I'm like you most well.
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Speaker 1: Tell you know, a tall person not to be tall.
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Speaker 1: That's how much that's going to help, you know.
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Speaker 3: And it's amazing. It's so hard, and particularly if you've
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Speaker 3: got a fixing mindset, and there's a good chunk of
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Speaker 3: us that have the I need to fix this problem
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Speaker 3: in front of me mindset. It is just so amazing
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Speaker 3: to take that back step, say, Jesus must be tough
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Speaker 3: for you. I can totally understand what's going on and
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Speaker 3: then silence and then just watch them self reflect. It's
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Speaker 3: because you can't get to that self reflection if you
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Speaker 3: go into contest with somebody's feelings. And I've taken this
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Speaker 3: a step further as well, my son. My boys are
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Speaker 3: eleven and five, and I am properly conditioning them with
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Speaker 3: my language as far as this stuff goes. Because my son,
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Speaker 3: he's a little connected. He's very socially sensitive, and he's
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Speaker 3: a bit nervous at times and gets like his emotions
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Speaker 3: get really big, which is all normal for him. That's mate.
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Speaker 3: Get you get to choose how you use these feelings.
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Speaker 3: You get you are in charge of your feelings. Don't
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Speaker 3: blame other people because as soon as you blame them,
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Speaker 3: it's now they've got all the power and you're not
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Speaker 3: in control of yourself anymore. I'm just every time we're
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Speaker 3: going through an emotional thing, it's just like you're in
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Speaker 3: charge of your feelings. You get to choose what you feel,
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Speaker 3: and da da da da da da da. I'm just
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Speaker 3: praying to God that it just conditions them. By the
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Speaker 3: time he's twenty, it'll just be stuck in his head.
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Speaker 3: I'm in charge of my feelings. Yeah, So it doesn't
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Speaker 3: work so well for adults to do it that way though.
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Speaker 1: I Mean my perspective on that would be yes with
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Speaker 1: an asterisk, because there are times a lot of times
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Speaker 1: where we're not like our feelings hijack our mind. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're not choosing to be sad or happy?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: So am I in control or am I controlled? Because
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Speaker 1: I think it depends on the situation and the person. Like,
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Speaker 1: there are definitely times where I think I'm reasonably evolved
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Speaker 1: in this kind of psychology, kind of emotion, kind of
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Speaker 1: self awareness, and I would say there are oftentimes where
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Speaker 1: I'm not in charge of my feelings.
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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. What I will say then, is the
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Speaker 3: angle that I'm going for is for him to just
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Speaker 3: own his reaction.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: If I'm feeling this way, it's coming from within me.
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Speaker 3: Someone may have done something then I get to react,
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Speaker 3: but it's my reaction as opposed to their making me right.
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Speaker 3: That's probably a better clarification, you're.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, because I think if I feel resentful of
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Speaker 1: old mate, and it's fucking real, that feeling real. I
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Speaker 1: can't just go no, I don't I'm in control.
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Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed completely yes, yeah yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: So And is it like as a parent raising two
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Speaker 1: different kids with different personalities at different ages? Is it
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Speaker 1: like has it been a shock to you because these
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Speaker 1: are your only kids so before that no experience raising kids?
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Speaker 2: Of course that how differently.
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Speaker 1: You need to you know, just like with pH three
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Speaker 1: sixty with all the different types. But is it how
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Speaker 1: differently you need to say the same message or solve
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Speaker 1: the same problem or address the same issue.
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Speaker 3: It is. It's interesting because I've got two really different ages. Right,
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Speaker 3: eleven and five is vast Oh yeah, eleven eleven you
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Speaker 3: can actually get a good conscious conversation going, right five
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Speaker 3: is I just I'm just thinking about zero to seven?
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Speaker 3: What's the messaging that he's got in his head? And
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Speaker 3: he's a little the five year old's a little guardian,
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Speaker 3: so just expl people have done what sorry excuse me, sorry.
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Speaker 3: Guardians have got a bigger, stronger body. They're normally protective
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Speaker 3: of people and their things and they're the biggest stronger body.
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Speaker 3: It it it's built to look after people essentially, and
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Speaker 3: but then he's got a big competitive streak in him
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Speaker 3: as well. But so one of the things, because you know,
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Speaker 3: his eleven year old brother from time to time will say, oh,
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Speaker 3: you're fat, and I come down on him like a
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Speaker 3: ton of bricks about the language and all of that
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Speaker 3: sort of stuff. And so what what I can start
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Speaker 3: seeing now though, because the big thing we talk about
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Speaker 3: guardians think about a Samoan body. Yeah, they're strong, that's
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Speaker 3: that's like they are strong for everyone, strong for themselves,
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Speaker 3: strong for the community. So any time any opportunity that like, geez,
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Speaker 3: look how strong your legs are. Gees, look how strong
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Speaker 3: your body is. Geez, your body is so strong. I
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Speaker 3: am just hammering that, hammering that home. Whenever he thinks
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Speaker 3: about his bodies. I know it's strong because I just know,
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Speaker 3: you know, I've met too many people that have just
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Speaker 3: had issues with their body their whole life.
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Speaker 1: Because you're talking you're talking to one, you're literally talking
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Speaker 1: to a lifelong fat kid. Well for the length of
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Speaker 1: my childhood anyway. Yeah, and the eleven year old like
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Speaker 1: drastically obviously age plays a big role.
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Speaker 3: But yes, it's a big one. On it's a big one.
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Speaker 3: On him being heard, and I'm seeing this in my
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Speaker 3: twelve year old niece as well, just being heard, their
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Speaker 3: feelings being real, and so it's it's it's all my
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Speaker 3: job to not react and jump in and assume. I've
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Speaker 3: always got to investigate first. And if I investigate first
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Speaker 3: and ask good questions, it all calms down and it's fine.
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Speaker 3: But it's interesting, I think, just maybe due to it
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Speaker 3: being a split home and you know, we didn't have
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Speaker 3: the most stable of situations early on in the piece. Yes,
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Speaker 3: there's a baseline level of stress in him, and he
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Speaker 3: goes into defense very very quickly. So it's just it's
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Speaker 3: just just unraveling that piece by piece, just through more
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Speaker 3: and more better interactions. But man, it's a job. It
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Speaker 3: is a job when you are highly sensitive to tone.
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Speaker 3: My brain is very sensitive to tonality. As soon as
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Speaker 3: he goes into defense, you just want to you want
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Speaker 3: to stop everything, just so it's the perfect little testing
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Speaker 3: ground for me to really know what's going on.
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Speaker 2: I guess for you, it's like this sounds quite.
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Speaker 1: But to me it sounds almost like it's in a
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Speaker 1: nice way, but an ongoing experiment. You know, in that
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Speaker 1: it's like you're trying to figure out what's the best
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Speaker 1: strategy or the best way to love them or communicate
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Speaker 1: or connect or to make them feel validated or seen.
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Speaker 2: Or safe or like.
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Speaker 1: And you're you're you, and each one of them are separately,
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Speaker 1: but then all of you collectively in this dynamic where
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Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out what's the best operating system
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Speaker 1: for me and this kid and this kid and then
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Speaker 1: both kids together, where you're trying to figure out you know,
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Speaker 1: their code.
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Speaker 3: Yes, one, it's a. It's a. It is an amazing experiment,
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Speaker 3: that is sure. Yeah, And it's one of those things
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Speaker 3: you've just got to because no, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 3: you have an inkling of what the right thing is,
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Speaker 3: and you know, you get exposed to lots of different
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Speaker 3: belief systems and all of that sort of stuff when
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Speaker 3: you're just trying to navigate all of this. Yeah, you've
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Speaker 3: just got to pick your lane with love and and
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Speaker 3: just hope that it's going to be the right thing.
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Speaker 3: It's and I think I've got some good principles in place,
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Speaker 3: but yeah, there's always the question mark of is this
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Speaker 3: the right thing? Am I? Am I dying on the
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Speaker 3: right hill?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean the reason I named this show all
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Speaker 1: those years ago, the You Project was because I've always
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Speaker 1: felt like my biggest challenge is me, My biggest management
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Speaker 1: project is me. The thing that I need to kind
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Speaker 1: of be less lucy goosey, and a bit of lucy
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Speaker 1: Goosey is good, but also a bit of strategy and
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Speaker 1: awareness and methodology and accountability and.
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Speaker 2: Process, so that.
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Speaker 1: Not so that life is some big boring project, but
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Speaker 1: so that I don't end up at you know, speaking
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Speaker 1: on behalf of the audience, I don't end up at
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Speaker 1: forty five or fifty or fifty five or sixty in
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Speaker 1: a psychological or emotional or commercial or financial or physiological
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Speaker 1: state that I wouldn't have wanted to be. But because
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Speaker 1: I didn't live particularly strategically, I just got up and
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Speaker 1: like I was led by emotions and feelings. Emotions and
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Speaker 1: feelings are great, but we don't really want them necessarily
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Speaker 1: to run certain parts of our life.
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Speaker 2: You know that I was.
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Speaker 1: Talking with someone the other day, Kate Save, who's a
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Speaker 1: regular on here, but just about the idea of you know,
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Speaker 1: what do you want to be and how do you
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Speaker 1: want to be in five years? And then so what
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Speaker 1: do you need to do now to make that potentially
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Speaker 1: a likely outcome, you know, and just that.
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Speaker 2: To try to because obviously the big.
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Speaker 1: One is when it comes to our body, among other things,
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Speaker 1: but especially our body. Like I'm emotional about my body,
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Speaker 1: and I'm an excise physiologist and I've been doing this
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Speaker 1: for years and I get it, but i still am
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Speaker 1: not completely logical or scientific or objective about my own body. Like,
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Speaker 1: even knowing all the shit I know, still a big
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Speaker 1: baby sometimes do dumb shit.
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Speaker 3: I understand that, and I would I would back that up,
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Speaker 3: even as a dietitian and x fiz and you know,
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Speaker 3: just wanting to improve my like, I'll spend months kind
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Speaker 3: of you know, guess working it or not doing things
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Speaker 3: specific and all I'm going to do is tighten up
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Speaker 3: and actually do the things that I know are exactly
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Speaker 3: right that I would give advice to anybody else about
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Speaker 3: and it would behave the way that I would expect.
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Speaker 3: Do you ever.
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Speaker 1: Do you ever I feel this? I probably shouldn't say
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Speaker 1: this publicly, but fuck it, everyone knows me. I'll be
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Speaker 1: vulnerable and pathetic and honest. But do you ever feel
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Speaker 1: I have a responsibility to look or function or be
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Speaker 1: or present a certain way because that if I didn't,
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Speaker 1: that would be inconsistent with my brand and what I
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Speaker 1: do like.
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Speaker 2: I feel like that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be in shape anyway, and
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Speaker 1: I think I would, but I think nobody wants me
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Speaker 1: on listening to all of my ship and reading my
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Speaker 1: shit to get up at an event and not look
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Speaker 1: like what I talk about. I don't mean being Superman
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Speaker 1: or ripped and sliced, but just I don't want to.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to get.
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Speaker 1: Up and lookhealthy so that that my ego keeps me
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Speaker 1: in check, that my ego keeps me.
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Speaker 2: Doing stuff as well as other things.
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Speaker 3: You ever, that's the great use of an ego. The Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I definitely feel that, and I would say that I
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Speaker 3: would probably I'm less, less associated with my body, more
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Speaker 3: associated with my personality and how I project myself right
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Speaker 3: when I and this is one of the harsh realities
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Speaker 3: of maybe meeting somebody and then seeing doctor camp on
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Speaker 3: a stage or a presentation or whatever it might be,
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Speaker 3: and then realizing I am a total introvert and I
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Speaker 3: come out of my shell when I've got a really
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Speaker 3: big passionate message or if there's something social going on,
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Speaker 3: and I would literally sit at home by myself and
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Speaker 3: just do work for ten twelve hours a day and
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Speaker 3: not talk to anybody quite happily, and that be okay,
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Speaker 3: you know, whereas there and what I guess what gets seen,
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Speaker 3: So that's you know, and I've got a big community
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Speaker 3: of health professionals. And the CAM personality is sort of
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Speaker 3: the bit that I hold, and for the most part
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Speaker 3: it's genuinely me. But I agree, it's like me being
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Speaker 3: up and up and out with my energy and always
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Speaker 3: having enough and being there for people and being able
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Speaker 3: to engage in a present way. That's probably more I
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Speaker 3: assess that more within myself than my body, for example.
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Speaker 3: But I would have to say secondarily or tertiary is
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be out of shape because I'm
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Speaker 3: talking about precision health and yeah matters.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's so funny how sometimes I do something and I go, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm still a fat four ten year old just trying
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Speaker 1: to not be that, you know, all right, So I
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Speaker 1: want to park that because I actually did intend to
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Speaker 1: talk to you about something else today, your honor, So
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Speaker 1: if we could go there, that would be good.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you. So when we talk generally,
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Speaker 2: I know there's.
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Speaker 1: Much more than what I'm about to say, but in
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Speaker 1: broad brushstrokes, you know, in health wellness, in the media,
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Speaker 1: social media, like we're always talking about food and exercise
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Speaker 1: and sleep and stress, and you know a bit around
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Speaker 1: sociology and who you spend time with and the benefit
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Speaker 1: of healthy relationships and you know, all of these variables
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Speaker 1: that are kind of we know about in terms of
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Speaker 1: optimizing ourselves physically, mentally, and emotionally. Like whatever emphasis you want,
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Speaker 1: is there anything it's emergent, anything that's newish that's getting
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Speaker 1: more attention over the let's say, the last three years.
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Speaker 2: Where we now know, oh we now know, we're.
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Speaker 1: Quite certain about or we're certain this has a bigger
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Speaker 1: influence than we thought that we didn't think, say five
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Speaker 1: years ago. Like I'll give you my quick one example,
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Speaker 1: like I'm always talking to people now about among other things,
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Speaker 1: but when I do corporate gigs and we talk about
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Speaker 1: all the big rocks, you know, not the little rocks,
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Speaker 1: but the big rocks. It used to be you know, food, exercise, mindset,
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Speaker 1: lifestyle and in that pyramid and at the bottom of
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Speaker 1: that now I have relationships because I just think that
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Speaker 1: the kind of relationships we have and all the stuff
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Speaker 1: that's interwoven with that feeling loved, valued, scene, appreciated, connected,
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Speaker 1: and all the psychological, emotional and biochemical stuff that's.
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Speaker 2: Into woven around that. You know, it's like it's massive.
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Speaker 2: So is there anything that.
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Speaker 1: We now kind of becoming aware of in this space
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Speaker 1: that you operate which is kind of optimal well being
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Speaker 1: for people? And I know it varies depending on their type.
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Speaker 1: That's got your eye or fascination that you want to
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Speaker 1: share with this stuff that is not spoken about so much,
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Speaker 1: or it might even be an extrapolation of something, because
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Speaker 1: I feel a little bit like in this space we
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Speaker 1: keep wheeling out the same old chestnuts.
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Speaker 2: Not you and me, but just in general.
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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, okay. So the first thing that I would
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Speaker 3: say to that is actually I go to a quote
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Speaker 3: from my chief medical officer, and he said, there is
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Speaker 3: literally nothing new in medicine in the last two thousand years,
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Speaker 3: Like they were doing brain surgery in ancient Egypt. Like
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Speaker 3: he's seen the texts and watched tumors being removed from
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Speaker 3: children's heads on the documented in various texts, whatever it
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Speaker 3: might be, even to the point of certain compounds being
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Speaker 3: used to have almost like a chemotherapeutic effect, way way
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Speaker 3: back back, ages ago. So the first thought that came
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Speaker 3: to my mind was that everything that I know, everything
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Speaker 3: that I really focus on, they are these deep threads
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Speaker 3: of knowledge that we've had in one way or another forever.
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Speaker 3: The big thing that really I mean, the pops up
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Speaker 3: that I would say that we talk about less, but
21:31
Speaker 3: it is so profoundly powerful that we just really don't
21:36
Speaker 3: even put any attention on it. And that is the
21:39
Speaker 3: impact of our physical environment, our exposoonics, what our environment
21:44
Speaker 3: and how we're exposed. And I guess to put some
21:49
Speaker 3: trends into that, you can look at cold immersion and
21:51
Speaker 3: saunas and things like that. But I'm speaking more even
21:56
Speaker 3: to the movement of irons ionization electromagnetic radiation that happens
22:05
Speaker 3: with changes in weather or and various things like that.
22:07
Speaker 3: And why I say that one not because it's new,
22:12
Speaker 3: because there's not much that's new, but because we're not
22:14
Speaker 3: talking about it much, and because it's highly relatable, highly relatable.
22:18
Speaker 3: We don't realize until you actually articulate it just how
22:21
Speaker 3: obvious it is. And some examples of that. Most talks
22:24
Speaker 3: that I'm doing about stress, what I do is I
22:27
Speaker 3: talk through how the whole environment impacts our capacity to
22:32
Speaker 3: deal with stress. And so one of the examples is
22:35
Speaker 3: your physical environment. Who hates air conditioning? Every single person
22:40
Speaker 3: puts their hand up for that, or no, every single room,
22:43
Speaker 3: there'll be a group of people that puts their hand up,
22:45
Speaker 3: and then there'll be a group of people that absolutely
22:47
Speaker 3: love air conditioning. And this is a really really simple example.
22:50
Speaker 3: But you can talk to the people that are in
22:53
Speaker 3: very poor health air air conditioning or they don't enjoy it,
22:57
Speaker 3: and you say, tell me about your mood when you're cold,
23:01
Speaker 3: and they say, I'm grumpy, short, I'm impatient, And I'd say, man,
23:08
Speaker 3: does everyone know when I asked their name on June's
23:11
Speaker 3: June down the front here? Has anyone ever given Dune
23:14
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt just thinking it might be
23:15
Speaker 3: a little bit too cold in the room as to
23:17
Speaker 3: why you're not having the best conversation with her. It's
23:20
Speaker 3: never part of our thought process and that our physical
23:24
Speaker 3: environment is having. But we know it that, oh jeez,
23:26
Speaker 3: I hate it when it's cold. Whereas there's other people
23:29
Speaker 3: that get incredibly hot and bothered if their conditioning isn't
23:33
Speaker 3: on nineteen degrees and blowing flat out in their face.
23:36
Speaker 3: Then they melt and die, and there's a really interesting
23:40
Speaker 3: dynamic with that with humidity, dryness, ionization. But then from
23:45
Speaker 3: some of our work as well, and this is something
23:47
Speaker 3: that as more people sort of search for the optimal
23:51
Speaker 3: place to live and they try and create their little retreats.
23:54
Speaker 3: We've had a few people that have gone to the
23:58
Speaker 3: mountains to do this Colorado, particularly two of them in fact,
24:02
Speaker 3: and all of these symptoms have started playing out, weight gain,
24:06
Speaker 3: headaches when they've gone up the mountain, and then we've
24:10
Speaker 3: gone through the process of understanding what their body is
24:13
Speaker 3: about and just due to the way that they dispose
24:16
Speaker 3: of oxygen and how they deal with higher altitude and
24:19
Speaker 3: the negative ionization because some people can't tolerate lots of
24:23
Speaker 3: negative ionization. Negative ions come from forested areas, waterfalls, places
24:28
Speaker 3: with plants and water essentially, and so you're going to
24:31
Speaker 3: have lots of negative ionization there, and you have lots
24:35
Speaker 3: of it in the mountains, you have less of it
24:37
Speaker 3: in the desert. You have more positive ionization in the desert.
24:40
Speaker 3: As the wind comes across the desert, it creates positive ionization,
24:43
Speaker 3: and some populations do really well with that so these
24:45
Speaker 3: two people were both desert like bodies living in the mountains,
24:51
Speaker 3: and or ten years of symptoms, could not figure it out,
24:54
Speaker 3: gone to every earnosed throat specialists, every natural path fact puncturist,
25:00
Speaker 3: integrative doctor. Ten years. Literally it said in the profile,
25:05
Speaker 3: you can't live above this altitude. You've got to move
25:07
Speaker 3: down the mountain. Move down the mountain. Two weeks resolution
25:10
Speaker 3: of symptoms. Nothing to do with her diet, nothing to
25:13
Speaker 3: do with anything else other than your body doesn't like
25:17
Speaker 3: this altitude. And so of course you've got symptoms. And
25:19
Speaker 3: then we've got another one of our very best coaches
25:22
Speaker 3: that works with us. She lives in the mountains in Colorado.
25:26
Speaker 3: She knows her body doesn't tolerate it, and so she's
25:28
Speaker 3: essentially changed her house so that she can tolerate living
25:34
Speaker 3: at altitude a little bit more, but just knows that
25:36
Speaker 3: at certain times of the year she's not going to
25:38
Speaker 3: be feeling great. It's really really fascinating. And then I
25:40
Speaker 3: don't know if you want to interject there, but I've
25:42
Speaker 3: got a few other stories I can share.
25:44
Speaker 1: No, no, I do, but I won't because that is
25:48
Speaker 1: fucking fascinating.
25:49
Speaker 3: Keep going, amazing, amazing, so, and then there's this in Europe,
25:54
Speaker 3: there's this They have this wind called the fiend fo Hn.
26:01
Speaker 3: I believe it's spelled and wow.
26:04
Speaker 2: There we'd test after the show kids.
26:07
Speaker 3: So at a particular time of year, this wind, this
26:11
Speaker 3: alpine wind, comes down off the mountain and it is
26:14
Speaker 3: known to have more psychotic events, more car crashes, more
26:21
Speaker 3: psychological dramas, more physical symptoms at this particular time of
26:26
Speaker 3: year when the ionization changes in the air. And I
26:32
Speaker 3: think that's absolutely fascinating, not just that, but I don't
26:38
Speaker 3: And you'll notice this is one of the things. Everyone
26:40
Speaker 3: gets a bit stir crazy when it's windy, you know,
26:42
Speaker 3: when you get that really weird windy change. Interestingly, about that, like,
26:48
Speaker 3: it definitely changes your physiology. It heightens your stress levels
26:52
Speaker 3: a little bit, and you'll express stress in different ways.
26:55
Speaker 3: For example, waking up with a sore neck is very
26:58
Speaker 3: very common when there's that windy change, if you've got
27:02
Speaker 3: a particular predisposition for a tight neck. Interestingly, the Chinese
27:07
Speaker 3: spoke about this, and they call it having wind. Literally,
27:12
Speaker 3: they described it as when the wind changes, or when
27:15
Speaker 3: there's a change in the airflow and there's an ionization change,
27:18
Speaker 3: your body responds to that as well because it's being
27:20
Speaker 3: held in a balance. And this is where we can
27:22
Speaker 3: get into the quantum space as well as that we
27:24
Speaker 3: are all just a whole pile of electromagnetic charge that
27:30
Speaker 3: holds itself together through whatever people think is the governing
27:36
Speaker 3: frequency of our body, whatever that might be. And so
27:39
Speaker 3: when ions come through, it actually changes that field and
27:42
Speaker 3: changes how you feel as a result of that, and
27:47
Speaker 3: the you know, what do we do? We go to
27:48
Speaker 3: the physio and we try and get it sort of,
27:51
Speaker 3: but it's got nothing to do with that. It's got
27:53
Speaker 3: everything to do with the effect of this wind on
27:55
Speaker 3: a nervous system. And more fascinatingly than that is that
27:58
Speaker 3: you think you close the doors and you feel better,
28:00
Speaker 3: but the ions travel through the walls like they don't.
28:03
Speaker 3: They don't stop just because you shut the doors. And
28:05
Speaker 3: so if it's really windy outside, you'll feel it. When
28:08
Speaker 3: it's raining outside, there's a massive charge difference in the
28:12
Speaker 3: ionization and you feel it. You can feel it when
28:14
Speaker 3: it's going to be stormy even though you're inside. So
28:19
Speaker 3: I find this stuff really fat, and I'll go a
28:20
Speaker 3: couple more and then we can start changing about it. Mate.
28:23
Speaker 2: You trust me, this is great. Just go.
28:25
Speaker 3: We have one lady with rheumatoid arthritis. Now, rhumatoid arthritis
28:29
Speaker 3: is an accumulation, it's an autoimine condition. You accumulate a
28:33
Speaker 3: lot of fluid. It's pain in your joints. It's an interesting,
28:36
Speaker 3: interesting thing, and it comes along with inflammation and a
28:39
Speaker 3: few other things. So if you look at this from
28:43
Speaker 3: an Eastern medicine perspective, it is an excess of humidity.
28:48
Speaker 3: That's what it is. You're accumulating too much fluid. And
28:50
Speaker 3: so one of the treatments. This is our chief medical office.
28:54
Speaker 3: He's just a weapon. He's just he's just such a
28:56
Speaker 3: he's he's our modern day Hippocrates. And I say that
28:59
Speaker 3: without reservation, knowing how big a statement that is. He
29:03
Speaker 3: sent this lady, she lived in a humid, cool, humid
29:07
Speaker 3: environment in Europe. Sent he sent her to holiday in
29:11
Speaker 3: a dry, warm place, which is the opposite of humidity.
29:16
Speaker 3: And what happened. And then he applied her with garlic,
29:24
Speaker 3: which is also very drying from a Chinese medicine perspective
29:27
Speaker 3: as well. Yes, yes, complete resolution of symptoms on holidays
29:30
Speaker 3: for two weeks. She then goes back home and the
29:33
Speaker 3: symptoms come back, and this is it becomes a really
29:37
Speaker 3: interesting conversation around well where should I live, because yes,
29:43
Speaker 3: we spend time in an environment where we just cannot
29:47
Speaker 3: get ahead because we are constantly facing against another. One
29:50
Speaker 3: is some individuals we call them diplomats, diplomatic like an
29:54
Speaker 3: ian thorpe type of structure. They're big, tall, but they're bendy,
29:59
Speaker 3: you know, and they're not hype lean, but they're like
30:01
Speaker 3: glamoizons and tall lumberjacks, is a simple way of describing them.
30:07
Speaker 3: And they require a little bit of humidity. They need
30:11
Speaker 3: a little bit cool humidity because they overheat and when
30:15
Speaker 3: they go out out west in Australia, which is it's
30:18
Speaker 3: very dry out to the west of the East Coast,
30:21
Speaker 3: and that dryness, their body overcompensates and gets really congested
30:28
Speaker 3: like their mucos or layer doesn't deal with it well.
30:31
Speaker 3: They get headaches, they get sinus issues consistently. And some
30:37
Speaker 3: people are living in the bush, just hating life, trying
30:41
Speaker 3: to take clarentine, trying to do all the things. But
30:43
Speaker 3: it's literally they need a humidifier in their house because
30:47
Speaker 3: their body has a particular balance that other bodies be
30:49
Speaker 3: totally fine. With that dry, arid kind of feeling. And
30:53
Speaker 3: if you go to Dubai, you'll see a bucketload of
30:58
Speaker 3: people that are designed for the desert. They're all sure muscular,
31:01
Speaker 3: sinewy bodies. They look dry, and they don't do well overhydrating.
31:06
Speaker 3: In fact, there's some bodies for this reason that they
31:08
Speaker 3: want a drier environment and if they overhydrate, it just
31:11
Speaker 3: rips the electrolytes out of them and it's not so good.
31:13
Speaker 3: Whereas another person they should just be doing nothing but
31:16
Speaker 3: drinking water all day because of the way they regulate fluid.
31:18
Speaker 3: So the the it brings up such an interesting conversation
31:26
Speaker 3: and to the point where in practical reality, I'll notice
31:29
Speaker 3: I've got probably a three or four degree range where
31:32
Speaker 3: I'm really comfortable and I can be in flow. I'll
31:36
Speaker 3: just find some afternoons I'm like, whins work so hard,
31:39
Speaker 3: I'll turn the AC on just for a few moments,
31:42
Speaker 3: all of my energy comes back.
31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:45
Speaker 3: And similarly, if I'm too cold, I'll be like, oh,
31:47
Speaker 3: but as soon as I get a bit warm, I'm
31:49
Speaker 3: back in flow. And this is but what we need
31:53
Speaker 3: to be aware of is how do I feel when
31:54
Speaker 3: it's humid? How do I feel when it's dry. How
31:56
Speaker 3: do I feel when it's windy? How do I feel
31:59
Speaker 3: where and when the ac is blowing on me directly? Like, really,
32:04
Speaker 3: my best version of my environment is airkon on door open,
32:09
Speaker 3: which is the worst thing in the world for the environment. However,
32:13
Speaker 3: I need a little bit of humidity, but I need
32:15
Speaker 3: it to be cooler, so I don't need it. I
32:18
Speaker 3: don't like it to be totally dry. So anyway, so
32:20
Speaker 3: it's there, and then we start getting into cold immersion
32:24
Speaker 3: and saunas and various things like that which are having
32:26
Speaker 3: a very profound physiological strain on us. But what's so
32:30
Speaker 3: interesting is the place that we're living right now. It's
32:33
Speaker 3: this constant background stress that can be driving conditions that
32:37
Speaker 3: we're just trying to be treatd for twenty years, but
32:40
Speaker 3: we've never looked actually how the physical environment and climate
32:44
Speaker 3: is influencing us and the current of impact that that has.
32:48
Speaker 2: Mate that.
32:49
Speaker 1: Seriously, it's about the best fifteen minutes we've ever got
32:52
Speaker 1: from you. Whatever you drink in the air, keep drinking that. No, men,
32:56
Speaker 1: you're always good. You're amazing to keep going on that.
33:01
Speaker 1: But I want to mention just a couple of things.
33:02
Speaker 1: So it's so funny when I think about what impacts
33:08
Speaker 1: my mood. I'm just talking specifically to me my mood
33:12
Speaker 1: and my cognitive function, how well I can articulate, think,
33:17
Speaker 1: you know, express right, do that stuff? Read a paper,
33:20
Speaker 1: you know how exciting they are actually remember what's in
33:23
Speaker 1: the paper, And just how I feel. I need to
33:29
Speaker 1: be in an environment that i'm really or I operate
33:32
Speaker 1: better obviously as most people do, in an environment that's
33:35
Speaker 1: very comfortable for me. And so that is and I've
33:38
Speaker 1: spoken about this many times before, so apologies listeners, but
33:41
Speaker 1: I just created an office that I love being in
33:44
Speaker 1: my upstairs bit of my house.
33:47
Speaker 2: I just look out and I've just got.
33:49
Speaker 1: A sea of trees. I can't see any of suburbia.
33:51
Speaker 1: I can only see trees. I have this super cushy carpet.
33:57
Speaker 1: I never wear shoes unless I have to put on
34:00
Speaker 1: shoes because I'm going to go to a place. So
34:03
Speaker 1: right now I'm sitting in bare feet. Every time we podcast,
34:06
Speaker 1: I don't even wear shoes in the house. I take
34:08
Speaker 1: them off at the door and I never put them on.
34:10
Speaker 1: Yeah sure and me both, bro. So you know it's
34:15
Speaker 1: like we just showed our bare feet to each other,
34:17
Speaker 1: like to old dick heads.
34:19
Speaker 2: But anyway, forgive us.
34:22
Speaker 1: And yeah, if I'm in this environment and I've got
34:27
Speaker 1: ac above my head and sometimes I turn that on
34:29
Speaker 1: for five minutes and I feel ten cents smarter five
34:32
Speaker 1: minutes later, I'm a bit like you. Yeah, it's just
34:36
Speaker 1: knowing how your body works in a particular environment, and.
34:41
Speaker 2: Like, what is the environment that you need.
34:44
Speaker 1: To construct for you to be somewhere close to optimal?
34:48
Speaker 1: And that could be Like I coached a lady. I
34:52
Speaker 1: don't coach anymore. But she hated shouldn't hate work, She
34:56
Speaker 1: just she hated sitting in basically large cubicle.
35:00
Speaker 2: It wasn't an office, it wasn't a tiny cubicle.
35:04
Speaker 1: And apart from a few other things, we just figured
35:07
Speaker 1: out that if she just surrounded herself with plants, which
35:11
Speaker 1: she did, yeah, she was so much happier, so much happier, Yes,
35:16
Speaker 1: you know, and so she had. I never went there,
35:20
Speaker 1: but she showed me a far I don't know. She
35:22
Speaker 1: must have had twenty plants in her office or her space,
35:25
Speaker 1: like every bit that she could fill. And she almost
35:31
Speaker 1: wanted me to tell her boss that she's not crazy
35:33
Speaker 1: and that it was actually good for her productivity and
35:36
Speaker 1: focus and energy, happiness, and yeah, just that and that
35:40
Speaker 1: was the only change that relative to that issue that
35:43
Speaker 1: we made.
35:44
Speaker 2: And yeah, life got better just for that.
35:47
Speaker 3: Yep. I've got mates that they've got a barren bedroom
35:50
Speaker 3: at home and then they go to their girlfriend's place
35:52
Speaker 3: and there's plants all through the bedroom and they sleep
35:55
Speaker 3: an hour more deep sleep. They just get so much
35:57
Speaker 3: more quality out of it. There's another example of a
36:01
Speaker 3: CEO that I was coaching. He would literally carry his
36:05
Speaker 3: potted plant from room to room to have it next
36:07
Speaker 3: to him because he just realized how great it is
36:10
Speaker 3: to have a little bit of foliage no matter where
36:11
Speaker 3: he is. Yes, the Yeah, it's so fascinating the impact.
36:18
Speaker 3: And what's interesting is that for some people it's plants,
36:21
Speaker 3: and then for another person it is I just need
36:24
Speaker 3: the place to be organized so that I know where
36:26
Speaker 3: everything is. Other people need it, And so that's one
36:30
Speaker 3: type of person. Another type person is I need it
36:32
Speaker 3: to look visually amazing, but I'm going to get bored
36:35
Speaker 3: of it in three weeks and I'm going to change it. Yeah,
36:38
Speaker 3: And then you'll see people that are constantly rotating their
36:40
Speaker 3: furniture and doing different things that they look and feel
36:42
Speaker 3: all of the time. Then you'll have other individuals where
36:45
Speaker 3: it does not matter what is going on around them,
36:47
Speaker 3: as long as they've got a square of space for
36:50
Speaker 3: their laptop and good Wi Fi and things work efficiently.
36:54
Speaker 3: It's not even about what it looks like. It's that
36:57
Speaker 3: it's functional. My space is is efficient, and my digital
37:01
Speaker 3: space is efficient, then I'm fine. We had another individual
37:05
Speaker 3: with really significant I think I've shared this before on
37:07
Speaker 3: the party bit. I'll share it again because it's super relevant.
37:10
Speaker 3: One individual, she was the highest depression an Diety score
37:15
Speaker 3: I've ever seen ever on the DAS twenty one on
37:18
Speaker 3: day one of our program with their company. All we
37:22
Speaker 3: did because we realized that she's a total introvert, Like
37:24
Speaker 3: we measured a total introvert, very sensitive to bright lights.
37:30
Speaker 3: Some people are more light sensitive, so it actually is
37:32
Speaker 3: overwhelming to have lights. Very sensitive to air conditioning and cold,
37:37
Speaker 3: very sensitive to noise. Essentially what we call them a
37:40
Speaker 3: sensor and their nervous system is just dialed up to
37:44
Speaker 3: a thousand and they are constantly just analyzing what's going on.
37:47
Speaker 3: If there's too much is too much, so what would happen?
37:50
Speaker 3: She'd be sitting in this environment, all of these environmental factors,
37:53
Speaker 3: bright lights, lots of noise, air conditioning coming at her.
37:56
Speaker 3: She would get overwhelmed. She then wouldn't be able to
37:59
Speaker 3: do her work properly. She would then start spiraling down
38:02
Speaker 3: into negativity about I just can't get out of this hole.
38:05
Speaker 3: Day two, we put her in a room by herself
38:09
Speaker 3: because there was a spare office and no one was
38:10
Speaker 3: using it. We said, look, she would really benefit from
38:13
Speaker 3: going into the private room. You should probably put her
38:15
Speaker 3: in there. She walks into the private room, controls the
38:18
Speaker 3: temperature in there, dims the lights. Her scores went to
38:22
Speaker 3: death twenty one Like she was probably like a seventeen
38:24
Speaker 3: or eighteen points she had. She went down to a
38:27
Speaker 3: zero by end of week one. And what it showed
38:30
Speaker 3: is it had nothing to do with her mental function.
38:33
Speaker 3: It had everything to do with how overwhelmed her system
38:36
Speaker 3: was by all of the sensory input from the environment.
38:39
Speaker 3: And it's wow, it's just yeah, it's so underrated. But again,
38:44
Speaker 3: the roots go back to Eastern medicine five thousand years ago.
38:47
Speaker 3: You know, this isn't new stuff, but it's it's got
38:49
Speaker 3: a great application.
38:50
Speaker 1: Now, that's amazing that desk gyal everyone past twenty one
38:55
Speaker 1: looks at depression and anxiety.
38:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what that is.
39:01
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I've just acquired, come across
39:06
Speaker 1: connected with, I don't know what the term is, a
39:10
Speaker 1: Chinese doctor, and dude, I love him so much. Like
39:16
Speaker 1: this is going to sound strange, but I'm just being honest.
39:20
Speaker 1: I met him and one minute in I went, I
39:23
Speaker 1: trust you, and I don't trust people. Quickly I'm like,
39:27
Speaker 1: I trust you. And then I had to put all
39:32
Speaker 1: my you know, clinical western eve fucking whatever, alleged academic, logical,
39:40
Speaker 1: allegedly brain just park it for.
39:44
Speaker 2: A moment, and then you know, I sit down.
39:46
Speaker 1: He looks at me, He looks in my eyes, looks
39:48
Speaker 1: at my tongue, takes my pulse, and then he proceeds
39:51
Speaker 1: to tell me all this stuff about me, which was
39:55
Speaker 1: just spot on right. And I saw him the other
39:58
Speaker 1: day and I'm seeing him tomorrow and I said, I'm
40:04
Speaker 1: just like, I had a few symptoms.
40:06
Speaker 2: I won't say what.
40:07
Speaker 1: He Yeah, so I've had this thing where I think
40:12
Speaker 1: I've got a virus or an infection or something that
40:15
Speaker 1: I'm coming out of but really affects cognitive function, focus, energy,
40:20
Speaker 1: like all of it, and he goes.
40:24
Speaker 2: Are you thirsty? I go, yeah, like stupid thirsty.
40:27
Speaker 1: And it's not diabetes and it's not prostrates, not all
40:30
Speaker 1: that I've had that done. And he goes, and when
40:32
Speaker 1: you drink, are you still thirsty after you drink?
40:35
Speaker 2: And I go, yes, you know, he just asked.
40:38
Speaker 1: Me this stuff where he knew the answer, but there
40:41
Speaker 1: was no signs, right, there was, and then he then
40:45
Speaker 1: I go, ah, fuck it.
40:46
Speaker 2: Then I just lie down and.
40:47
Speaker 1: He puts these all these you know, bottle things on
40:51
Speaker 1: me and lights the thing and sticks one million fucking
40:54
Speaker 1: needles in me and then gives me these little looks.
40:57
Speaker 2: Like rabbit poo to take. And I do not.
41:02
Speaker 1: I don't even want to understand, Like I'm just like cool,
41:05
Speaker 1: and I just go, I've been a few times now,
41:07
Speaker 1: and I just I look forward to going. And you know,
41:12
Speaker 1: my experience and medical Western doctors are great, but I
41:16
Speaker 1: like going somewhere where if I'm there for forty minutes
41:18
Speaker 1: or an hour and twenty minutes, he doesn't care. Yeah,
41:22
Speaker 1: there's no hurry, yes, right, he's got like there's just
41:26
Speaker 1: no fucking hurry, and he's you know, and he clearly
41:30
Speaker 1: he charges, but what he charges as fuck all. Firstly,
41:33
Speaker 1: he's got a PhD from Melbourne UNI. Secondly, he's an
41:37
Speaker 1: actual doctor of Chinese Medicine CHAT trained in China, so
41:41
Speaker 1: he's yeah, his knowledge is broad, but he just has
41:45
Speaker 1: this energy. I'm like, dude, I could just come and
41:47
Speaker 1: fucking sit next to you for the morning. I think
41:49
Speaker 1: I'd be better. Do you know what I'm saying? You
41:52
Speaker 1: know when you know and it's not like, ah, of
41:55
Speaker 1: course he's calm and all of that, but some people,
42:00
Speaker 1: I think for me anyways, some people are therapeutic just
42:03
Speaker 1: to be around them or calming, and some.
42:06
Speaker 2: People are the opposite.
42:07
Speaker 1: So I think proximity to people and how those people
42:12
Speaker 1: affect you definitely plays a role in the mental and
42:17
Speaker 1: emotional and physical health.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I'm sure, I mean, I was going to
42:22
Speaker 3: drag this one out, but you said something in the
42:23
Speaker 3: last three years has been done for seventy years. I
42:25
Speaker 3: think we've spoken about it before. The heart rate or
42:30
Speaker 3: the Heart Math Institute work where they've looked at the
42:34
Speaker 3: electromagnetic's coming off your heart and how that actually creates
42:38
Speaker 3: a resonance and an impact on the other parts around you.
42:40
Speaker 3: All of those types of things. There's a direct translation
42:43
Speaker 3: for that. And if someone's holding a very very very
42:46
Speaker 3: strong state of gratitude and essentially matching that of the
42:50
Speaker 3: Earth's magnetic rhythm, it's so easy to feel at ease
42:58
Speaker 3: around them because it's just like comforted by Mother Earth. Yeah,
43:03
Speaker 3: it's awesome.
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Speaker 2: I dig him anyway, I'm saying him tomorrow shout out
43:07
Speaker 2: to doctor Paul.
43:08
Speaker 1: I'm not sure his actual name is that, but that's
43:11
Speaker 1: what he goes by, so bless his little sucks.
43:14
Speaker 3: I wanted to I've got one more thing to add.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
43:19
Speaker 1: Well I've got still on the same topic. But do
43:21
Speaker 1: you do you do you bro?
43:23
Speaker 3: Now you go, No, let's go the same topic.
43:25
Speaker 2: Well, don't forget that, don't forget that.
43:27
Speaker 3: Whatever, it's the ton I just wanted the magnetics. That's
43:31
Speaker 3: what will come back to.
43:32
Speaker 2: Oh well, fuck, it could even be what I'm going
43:35
Speaker 2: to bring up.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I love that.
43:37
Speaker 2: It's not full moon?
43:38
Speaker 3: Is it seventeenth? Is full moon?
43:41
Speaker 2: Right?
43:42
Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say, you're going to
43:43
Speaker 1: talk about like I remember, like so many times I've
43:48
Speaker 1: had experiences where people that I know, clients or friends
43:52
Speaker 1: or whatever, respectfully kind of lost their shit. You know,
43:56
Speaker 1: there's just been something going on and the reaction seems
44:01
Speaker 1: completely kind of out of whack with the events.
44:06
Speaker 2: And you know, we're talking.
44:08
Speaker 1: About how your environment or the things around you affect you.
44:13
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on or insight into or experience with people
44:19
Speaker 1: responding to full moons.
44:23
Speaker 3: I hang out with a crew that is very pro
44:26
Speaker 3: all of that, and then you listen to anybody else
44:32
Speaker 3: talk about it, and it's it's it's considered all who
44:36
Speaker 3: is So I guess I know people that use the
44:42
Speaker 3: full moon ceremonially to release a whole lot of things
44:45
Speaker 3: and to do that, And you know, do I have
44:51
Speaker 3: really good tangible evidence to say this unequivocally exists? No?
44:57
Speaker 3: Does it have any negative impact to believe it absolute? Not?
45:00
Speaker 3: If you feel like today I can actually release a
45:03
Speaker 3: whole lot of baggage that I wouldn't have been able
45:04
Speaker 3: to other days, that's a great belief to have. So yeah, no,
45:08
Speaker 3: I don't have anything super tangible. However, you know, there
45:12
Speaker 3: is a very strong electromagnetic force that's coming from the Moon,
45:15
Speaker 3: and we know that the soul of flares have a
45:18
Speaker 3: significant impact on our experience on Earth as well. So
45:23
Speaker 3: it's a very very interesting topic, and I'm not the
45:25
Speaker 3: person to speak to it.
45:26
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to share one little anecdote, which everybody,
45:29
Speaker 1: this is an anecdote, this is a story, This is
45:32
Speaker 1: not science.
45:33
Speaker 2: So I did a gig a few years ago for.
45:36
Speaker 1: A a special needs school, so kids with you know,
45:43
Speaker 1: mental and physical disabilities, but most of the kids were
45:48
Speaker 1: intellectually impaired.
45:50
Speaker 2: To some level. And I was doing.
45:53
Speaker 1: An all day gig with the staff before the term started.
45:57
Speaker 1: And I got there early and I met the principal,
45:59
Speaker 1: who's love and she just give me a tour, and
46:02
Speaker 1: I said, what are the kids like? You know, tell
46:05
Speaker 1: me about the kids, and she was kind of describing,
46:08
Speaker 1: you know, their challenges and where we're at. And I like,
46:11
Speaker 1: and are they like they is like, is it real
46:15
Speaker 1: hard or are they you know?
46:17
Speaker 2: Is it I'm sure you love them all, but is
46:19
Speaker 2: it easy? Is it hard?
46:20
Speaker 1: She goes, it's mostly pretty good, you know, It's like
46:24
Speaker 1: you know, day to day there's stuff, but mostly it's
46:26
Speaker 1: good except for full moons, of course, Like this is
46:30
Speaker 1: literally what And I go, oh, oh, go on, tell
46:36
Speaker 1: me more, of course, yes, of course, And she's like, oh, well,
46:41
Speaker 1: I can't say exactly what she said, but she wasn't disparaging,
46:45
Speaker 1: but she you know, she intimated that old things go
46:50
Speaker 1: things go awry for about twenty four hours, like twenty
46:53
Speaker 1: four thirty six hours, and I go, hang on, hang
46:56
Speaker 1: on really like, oh, she goes absolutely like the kids,
47:02
Speaker 1: not all the kids, but a lot of the kids
47:03
Speaker 1: really change and their behavior changes and their state changes.
47:08
Speaker 2: And I go, do the other teachers think that she goes?
47:11
Speaker 3: They know that?
47:12
Speaker 2: Like she was talking to me like, how do you
47:15
Speaker 2: not know this?
47:16
Speaker 3: Yeah?
47:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, that is so interesting.
47:19
Speaker 1: So because that was such a profound thing for my
47:22
Speaker 1: head to hear, I didn't forget it.
47:25
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know tell us your.
47:29
Speaker 1: Last Well, I think you're going to talk to us
47:31
Speaker 1: about another example or story.
47:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is it's speaking to it's sort of
47:37
Speaker 3: an extension of everything that we're talking about, so like
47:39
Speaker 3: humidity and climate and where you live and all of
47:43
Speaker 3: the various environmental elements they're essentially changing the well, it's
47:49
Speaker 3: different frequency inputs into your body that change its state.
47:53
Speaker 3: And so our chief medical officer again, and I'll just
47:57
Speaker 3: share some stuff that's coming out because he's doing some
47:59
Speaker 3: stuff with the Canadian government with autism, and what he's
48:02
Speaker 3: finding is that autistic kids have a lack of delta.
48:07
Speaker 3: And he's seen in the other literature published that that's
48:10
Speaker 3: not the case, that they've got too much delta. But
48:13
Speaker 3: then when he's been doing this with his very objective measurements,
48:17
Speaker 3: he's been seeing that they have a lack of delta.
48:21
Speaker 3: Delta is a wavelength that happens in deep sleep, so
48:26
Speaker 3: you've got beta, alpha, theeder delta, So delta is deep
48:30
Speaker 3: wave sleep. THEAA is sort of embodied movement when you're
48:33
Speaker 3: just dancing and not thinking about it. Would be a
48:35
Speaker 3: way to think about it just before you go to
48:36
Speaker 3: sleep as well. Alpha is gratitude and peace and meditation.
48:41
Speaker 3: Beata wave is thinking and productivity, and then gamma is
48:44
Speaker 3: insight and inspiration and that comes in short, fast bursts
48:49
Speaker 3: of gamma. So delta is the deep one. Delta is
48:52
Speaker 3: what you need for brain recovery, and he noticed that
48:55
Speaker 3: they have a lack of delta, so he started putting
48:57
Speaker 3: in He's been working with some of the leading quantum
48:59
Speaker 3: physicists and they've put together an AI and biofeedback that
49:05
Speaker 3: puts specific electromagnetics into a mat that people lie on.
49:11
Speaker 3: It's not his product. He's just been designing some of
49:13
Speaker 3: the frequency stuff around it. He has taken kids with
49:18
Speaker 3: autism from nonverbal individual words only and not walking to
49:28
Speaker 3: stringing entire sentences together and singing while walking eight weeks later,
49:34
Speaker 3: and it's literally lying on their back restoring. They're putting
49:39
Speaker 3: it into a very low hurtz of electromagnetic gradients, sort
49:41
Speaker 3: of zero point five to four, which is the range
49:44
Speaker 3: for delta, and then bluxeing with a bit of biofeedback
49:48
Speaker 3: that comes from the mat as well. All they're doing
49:50
Speaker 3: is changing the electromagnetic gradient that's going through this mat.
49:53
Speaker 3: They start seeing more delta, greater brain recovery because their
49:57
Speaker 3: sleep is actually more effectual now. And this he's seen
50:02
Speaker 3: infants being brought back from death in Africa. Normally they
50:05
Speaker 3: just leave them to die. He put it on the mat,
50:07
Speaker 3: it was alive the next morning. He's been regrowing cardiac
50:14
Speaker 3: tissue like He's just been doing the most insane things
50:19
Speaker 3: with very directed electromagnetic inputs. So it's it's highly specific,
50:25
Speaker 3: but it just speaks to the power of our entire environment,
50:29
Speaker 3: like the sun is electromagnetic. The moon is electromagnetic, all
50:32
Speaker 3: our everybody around you is electromagnetic. Your WiFi is electromagnet.
50:36
Speaker 3: All of these things are influencing us in different ways,
50:39
Speaker 3: and they can. It's the utility like this is the
50:42
Speaker 3: future of medicine is essentially operating with this quantum space.
50:46
Speaker 3: It's absolutely fascinating.
50:50
Speaker 1: Why did you have to wheel that out at the end.
50:52
Speaker 1: I feel like that would have been a good starting point.
50:55
Speaker 3: Maybe you can put it so it looks like it's
50:58
Speaker 3: from the beginning.
50:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is. That is bloody incredible. Ask that
51:05
Speaker 2: guy if he wants to have.
51:06
Speaker 1: A chat one day, I will I can, Yeah, I mean,
51:09
Speaker 1: that'd be probably not smart enough to interview him, So
51:12
Speaker 1: maybe you need to interview him with me.
51:15
Speaker 3: We've got I could probably send you some of his stuff.
51:17
Speaker 3: It's he's got. We've probably done maybe one hundred and
51:20
Speaker 3: twenty hours. It's part of our professional development. And he
51:23
Speaker 3: will speak on any topic and he will just track
51:25
Speaker 3: from what happened three thousand years ago, and then what
51:28
Speaker 3: happened when Pythagoras came up with these principles, and then
51:32
Speaker 3: what was this guy in the eighteen hundreds doing, and oh,
51:35
Speaker 3: that's now contributed to Oh we do this basic little
51:37
Speaker 3: thing in modern medicine. But yeah, he's just he's just brilliant.
51:40
Speaker 3: He knows everything about everything.
51:43
Speaker 2: How old is this guy, he's fifty.
51:46
Speaker 3: Man photo photographic memory, remembers every blood of every patient
51:51
Speaker 3: that he's had, just reads a paper ingests it and
51:55
Speaker 3: it's just there and he just brings it back on demand.
51:58
Speaker 3: Like he's just he is an absolute freak.
52:00
Speaker 2: Is he a medical doctor or a PhD?
52:03
Speaker 3: He is medical and then trained in Chinese medicine, and
52:07
Speaker 3: then he's just he essentially just goes around to a
52:12
Speaker 3: number of different things, Like there's a number of large
52:14
Speaker 3: university hospitals in Italy where he lives, and he just
52:17
Speaker 3: goes around and does like takes all the cases that
52:20
Speaker 3: other people can't do. And then he'll and then he
52:24
Speaker 3: goes off just lecturing and he's coding, coding his brain.
52:29
Speaker 1: That guy should be world renowned. I mean it probably is.
52:34
Speaker 1: He probably is in a space, but he should be.
52:37
Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds like two hundred years from now
52:39
Speaker 1: people are going to be talking about that dude.
52:42
Speaker 3: That's That's one of the things that motivates me is
52:45
Speaker 3: to get his brain out there and that's he's not
52:48
Speaker 3: scalable without tech. And this is like our whole job
52:51
Speaker 3: has been to essentially couch couch this knowledge base, but
52:58
Speaker 3: do it in a systematic way. It's evidence based that
53:01
Speaker 3: can be accessed by anyone. That's essentially our whole organization's purpose. Wow,
53:06
Speaker 3: one would.
53:09
Speaker 2: Mate.
53:09
Speaker 1: It's always great to chat to you. I appreciate you.
53:14
Speaker 1: Tell people where.
53:15
Speaker 2: They can find you and learn a little bit about
53:17
Speaker 2: your work.
53:18
Speaker 1: And your offerings so they can hit you up.
53:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, thank you. Probably the best thing to do
53:25
Speaker 3: is just google Shay group, Shae group, and then doctor
53:30
Speaker 3: cam McDonald just put that in Google. And then for
53:35
Speaker 3: health professionals, we've got courses using the leading medical AI
53:39
Speaker 3: tech that sort of incorporates everything that we've been talking
53:41
Speaker 3: about today and a whole lot more. And then corporate
53:44
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53:48
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53:52
Speaker 3: so getting better outcomes for your members. And then just
53:55
Speaker 3: a general user app that anyone can pick up and
53:57
Speaker 3: get the best in lifestyle medicine and what's best for them.
53:59
Speaker 3: So all of the stuff that we spoke about today
54:02
Speaker 3: is actually written into the app maybe except for that
54:04
Speaker 3: electromagnete stuff right at the end, But all the environmental
54:07
Speaker 3: stuff is right there for you, so just go there
54:10
Speaker 3: and get stuck in. We've got a whole ecosystem and
54:13
Speaker 3: we're trying to eliminate disease and pain by twenty fifty.
54:16
Speaker 3: That's our goal.
54:18
Speaker 2: That's good. That's a good goal. That's a good goal.
54:21
Speaker 1: Hey mate, I will say goodbye our fair but for now,
54:24
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to play again.
54:26
Speaker 3: Thanks as appreciate it.