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Silver Stackers -DON'T BE WRECKED! 🚨🚨 Here are the FACTS · SILVER / GOLD / $UFD: Surviving Global Economic Shifts | RONS BASEMENT

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  I don't think the manipulation of gold and silver in the West
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  is going to end until the dollar ends.
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  Today, we're joined by our special guest, Mr. Pat Holland
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  from the Missouri Freedom Initiative.
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  We're going to talk about recent developments in the world, what
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  that could mean for the silver price, the gold price.
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  Of course, we'll even focus on the silver price halfway through
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  this video. And we're going to talk about
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  very important developments within the legislative movement
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  that's going on across the country in many individual
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  states to help citizens reclaim their right to use silver and
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  gold as legal tender. Pat, welcome back to Ron's
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  basement. Ron, thank you so much.
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  It's been a minute. And I missed you, buddy.
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  I missed you so much. Look at this solidarity here.
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  Red shirt, red shirt. Look at this.
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  Oh, yes. Yes.
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  Thank you, yeah. Oh yeah, So and you know, 5:00
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  Shadow. Yep.
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  Normally I'm clean shaven. Look at this.
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  So this is an honor of you, Ron, in solidarity, man.
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  And also also in support of anyone who has ever guest
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  starred on Star Trek and been on an away mission.
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  This is a forgotten demographic. I think we need to rope them in
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  and bring them into the Silver and gold network.
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  And by the way, the silver or, I'm sorry, the gold bear and the
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  platinum bear might need a red shirt too, because we're
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  starting to get chilly in the mornings here in Missouri.
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  Yeah, well, yeah, well, the, the, the, the, the Silver Bear
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  just whispered in my ear that Pat Holland gets better looking
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  every time we see him. So, oh boy.
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  So you can't even see, you know? So I'm not sure we can.
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  Trust this. Oh, boy.
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  I was just exposed. OK, yeah.
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  So I have a I have a question for you, Pat.
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  Sure, buddy. Seems like there's so much going
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  on in the world. I have a real simple question
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  for you. Are Americans asleep?
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  And I ask you that question because last week we got major
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  news, maybe one of the biggest news stories of the decade,
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  maybe of the century that the BRICS nations were expanding.
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  They're adding six new right, expanding by by 6 new countries.
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  Big news story including Saudi Arabia.
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  And the reason I ask you are Americans asleep is because the
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  next morning. I pulled up CNN to see what
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  their coverage of this, just out of curiosity was.
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  They had zero coverage. As a matter of fact, they had
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  like 4 stories detailing different aspects of Donald
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  Trump's mugshot. I thought, it's no wonder
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  Americans don't know what's going on.
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  They're not getting the news. What's the significance of that?
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  And what's the significance of what's going on with bricks?
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  You bet, okay. So let's start with the fact
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  that what's happening in the BRIC nations is not getting
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  exposure in the mainstream media.
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  So let's start with that. Now we could talk ad nauseam
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  about censorship. We could, you know, because
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  that's a real problem we're dealing with in the Western
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  world right now. And it's not just the United
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  States. The censorship extends far
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  beyond us. But the fact of the matter is
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  Saudi Arabia becoming you're joining with the bricks and
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  actually integrating in with the bricks is a big, big deal and
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  you're only going to get this information from the alternative
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  media sources. Why is it a big deal?
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  Because that's the country that heads up OPEC and that's the oil
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  producing nations and Saudi Arabia is the head of OPEC for
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  several reasons. But at the same time people need
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  to understand this is literally the end of the petrol dollar.
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  There's two names for the dollar outside the United States, the
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  Petra dollar and the world reserve currency.
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  Both of those are inextricably linked and it's because of our
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  deal with Saudi Arabia. We we really, truly have this,
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  even though we got it with the the Bretton Wood Accords you
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  know that happened in the, I believe that was 1946, maybe 40.
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  44 I believe 44 Okay and that was in New Jersey, but that's
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  because we had all the gold. That's the reason we got world
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  reserve currency. How we kept it was through oil.
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  So gang, this is big news. This is something that I think
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  surpasses anything that you're seeing now with the circus in
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  Washington DC This will affect all of us.
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  This, in fact, indeed this will affect the entire world.
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  So be careful what you're consuming, and be careful on the
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  time that you spend consuming media and news, because some of
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  the biggest, most important stories are going by the
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  mainstream media without mention.
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  Yeah, it's, it's interesting. And I'm going to get your
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  perspective on this. And I think you know, me
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  personally, I had no idea what the Petro dollar really meant
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  until maybe two years ago. And I think that 99.8% of my
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  fellow Americans still don't understand the significance like
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  you like you described. And I heard somebody describe it
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  like this that let's say just over the last, oh, 1520 years.
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  Let's look at China, for instance.
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  China manufactured a lot of products, right, and shipped
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  them to the United States. the United States paid them with
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  dollars. So I'm sorry.
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  China, once they got those dollars, would typically do one
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  of two things. They would buy U.S.
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  Treasuries or they would use those dollars because oil and
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  natural gas were traded exclusively in the Petro dollar.
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  They would use those dollars to buy oil because they're a big
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  importer of energy now. That's all been thrown out the
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  window and that in that that previous arrangement allowed the
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  United States to to borrow money right at a very low rates
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  because there was demand for the treasuries.
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  Now that's all been is that, is that a fair assessment of what's
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  going on? I think so.
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  And also, you know, I've, I've made a prediction that this time
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  next year that the printing press will be wide open.
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  And I should probably amend that by saying if dollars aren't
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  rushing back to the United States from overseas because
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  that itself will be a hyperinflationary event, you
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  know as well, we can either print it ourselves or just take
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  the dollars back that are literally floating around
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  overseas. There's a lot of dollars in the
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  system, Ron. I mean, you know this, and they
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  are sloshing around, looking for investment vehicles and
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  opportunities. But the fact of the matter is,
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  if the dollar's not wanted for oil anymore or not needed for
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  oil because OPEC has decided that they're going to take a
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  basket of currencies instead of just the dollar, Boy howdy, is
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  that going to change things for us in the United States.
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  How you're going to know this is everything's just going to get
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  more expensive? I meant it's that simple.
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  And I, and I think a lot of people, including myself, don't
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  realize oil is the lifeblood of the world economy.
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  It is, it is the blood of, I mean, it is everything, not just
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  energy, but oils, you know, everywhere, right, Plastics.
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  I mean it is like everything so. This really is a seismic change
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  that's going on and and you know we we know, you know, we know
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  that the Saudis, we know that the the UAE, they're becoming
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  closer and you know I mean they're joining bricks at this
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  point. So what other demonstration do
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  we need that they're now align themselves with China, with
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  Russia, with India for that matter and and what the
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  implications will be for the US dollar but but.
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  You know, of course we don't hear about it.
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  We don't hear about it on Fox News, we don't hear about it on
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  CNNMSNBC anything. People just I think are are
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  asleep and don't really understand what's going on.
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  And let me ask you this question about silver and gold and
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  platinum, any of the precious metals.
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  Is there any scenario as you look at what's going on that's
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  not favorable? I know you're not into making
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  predictions for precious metals, but that mean doesn't this seem
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  to set up a favorable environment?
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  For silver, gold and and platinum for that matter.
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  It does, but but also too, I'm I'm 51 years old and I have been
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  into gold and silver for a long time.
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  The manipulation never ends. Yes, we had a really big high
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  back in 2011 and it did happen and it came back down.
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  But it turns out that was a manipulated high and that was
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  specifically, that was before JP Morgan took over.
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  What's the bank they took over when they failed that actually
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  was manipulating the futures just recently.
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  No, they, they went under in 2008, but it was like, gosh darn
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  it, Bear Stearns maybe. Yeah.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  So at any rate, so to go back and be more precise about your
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  question, I don't think the manipulation of gold and silver
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  in the West is going to end until the dollar ends because
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  that's how they do it is through the dollar, through the power of
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  the dollar. And I'm really sorry.
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  I know this is going to strike folks, a lot of folks the wrong
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  way that we're going to have some sort of victory on true
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  cost, you know, true value of gold and silver before the
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  dollar ends. But I just don't see it coming,
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  not in the West anyway. But look, watch the bricks.
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  The bricks will use gold and silver somehow.
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  Or maybe it's just gold, you know, And and one more thing I
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  want to throw out, and it's very important that people, you know,
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  align with the thinking on this. Silver is incredibly important
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  for industry. Gold is not.
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  Now gold's important for industry too, but nowhere near
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  as much as silver. Silver may, pardon me, may never
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  be monetized again, ever, in any country because it's
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  irreplaceable in many, many applications.
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  So go ahead. Well, there's just some crazy
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  statistics out there regarding silver.
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  I mean and and from some reliable sources, right, like I
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  read yesterday, I don't know Saxo Bank or one of the big
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  banks was saying we could we could run out of silver by the
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  year 2035 like the world could actually you know if these
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  projections for solar and and other things that are you know
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  developing in terms of the industrial needs for silver that
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  that it's crazy. The situation and there's no,
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  there aren't any mining companies exploring very few
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  exploration initiatives for silver, very few mines being
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  developed for silver. There's not a pipeline of new
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  silver coming on online. I mean, it could be an
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  interesting scenario that unfolds here in the next 10
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  years. You bet.
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  And if you talk to miners, exploration companies, even
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  analysts like David Morgan, they will tell you the same thing.
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  All of them are in lockstep with Johnny on this.
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  Silver is manipulated so low, it is not worthwhile to explore for
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  it. And I got to tell you too, I
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  meant actually above ground, On ground, sources of silver for
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  mining on land are drying up very quickly.
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  I suspect the next major move for mining silver is going to be
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  in the oceans and that will dramatically increase the price
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  because it's going to be so expensive to do so.
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  And that's if, of course we need it for industry.
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  And and I got, I got it. I got to throw this in before I
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  forget. And 30% of the world's silver
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  now comes from Mexico. Mexico's becoming very mining
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  unfriendly. I can vouch for that because
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  I've had several of the of the companies that I own stock in
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  have had major problems in Mexico.
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  The other big key point is that a lot of the silver that we get
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  now is a byproduct of copper mining, zinc mining and lead
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  mining. And I heard where you know, Ross
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  Beatty, you know, who's a very well respected, you know,
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  executive in the precious metal sector.
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  I've heard him as well as other top level people say that the
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  new copper deposits that they're finding right, the world needs
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  all this copper, the world. So you would think, Oh well when
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  they open these new copper mines, they're going to get all
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  the silver wrong because the low hanging fruit copper that had
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  been mined and is still being mined now has a lot of silver in
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  it. The new copper deposits are
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  deeper and there's hardly any silver.
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  Coexisting with the copper. So really, I mean, I know you
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  love silver, I love silver. Can we talk one more silver
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  subject? And then I want our listeners
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  who are with us to know we are going to do an update on the
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  Missouri Freedom initiative and the legislation.
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  Pat's going to go into all that. But I got to ask you this
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  question about Silver Pat too, because you you're you're a very
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  smart guy and I love to hear your insights.
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  And I know that all the people with us love to hear them as
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  well when I think about the 1970s.
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  And silver, right? We know that silver had some
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  spectacular gains during the 1970s, went from like $1.30 or
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  so all the way up to almost 50, I mean like 35 times from low to
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  high. What?
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  What? What?
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  What intrigues me is that it feels like we are in a similar
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  situation now. Stagflation.
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  Geopolitical risk, the the countries, you know, our our
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  fiscal and monetary situation in the country, like we're in a
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  real similar situation right now.
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  But I think could the argument even be made that we're even in
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  a more extreme situation right now and that the setup for
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  silver potentially could be even better?
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  OK, well, I'll tell you what I'll Those are good points, but
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  I'm going to throw some more into it.
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  In 1980, you had the Hunt brothers, you know, actually
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  starting to corner the silver market.
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  They did nothing wrong. They did nothing illegal.
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  They were seeing silver as an incredibly important asset.
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  Now Fast forward to and and by the way, you're talking about
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  silver at 50 bucks or right. So we almost hit that in 2011,
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  but that was when the pig nations came up.
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  You know, Portugal, Germany, OK, Spain.
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  And I don't remember the I nation.
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  What's that? India.
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  Was it India? I don't, No.
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  These were nations that were on the euro, OK.
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  And so you're catching me early in the morning around my brain
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  is still near. Hey, three out of four.
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  Three out of four is not bad, Pat.
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  You know we don't, we don't, we don't have, we don't have
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  teleprompters to help us, right. Italy, Italy, If Italy, Italy.
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  And there you go. The pig nations, they were in a
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  very, very bad situation with the euro and it was looking like
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  bank closures and the euro starting to die in in 2011.
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  You saw Bitcoin scream up. You saw silver and gold scream
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  up. And that was really the reason
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  why. And so, but there was
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  manipulation by JPMorgan because of they're they're going or not
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  JPMorgan. Yeah, it was JPMorgan.
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  They took over from Bear Stearns.
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  So they're saying, well, yeah, we make a lot of money when
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  silver goes down. Let's figure out how to make a
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  lot of freaking money when it goes up.
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  So they, they spoofed it and they helped it go up.
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  I meant actually this has been proven, folks.
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  I'm not saying anything here that is, you know, left to
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  interpretation here. So at any rate, those events
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  were happening in 1980. Hunt brothers in 2011 Pig
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  nations JP Morgan spoofing. So but okay let's go back to the
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  original question and and also the underlying currents for the
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  economic situation or environment.
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  When we we're going, we're in a recession right now.
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  It's being papered over and this is nothing new.
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  I meant you know this is how we do it now apparently.
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  So in a recession, will gold and silver go up?
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  You know, basically when the dollar apparently is not.
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  So now we had to include the 4X market.
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  So I'm going to take you one step further.
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  Gold is exchanged on the 4X market because it is money.
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  A lot of people don't know this, but on the foreign exchange
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  market for currencies nationwide, when currencies are
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  trading against one another, gold is one of those currencies.
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  Just like the dollar, just like the rupee, you know, just like,
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  you know, the peso. They're all in there with gold.
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  Well, let me, I'm going to ask you.
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  I did not realize that so gold is actually traded on the 4X
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  exchanges. It is indeed.
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  Wow. I didn't know that.
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  Thank you, Pat. Sorry I interrupted you, but I
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  think that I would imagine a lot of our viewers that may be news
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  that's to me, that's significant.
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  So thank you. Well, I'll tell you what, At
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  least 2-3 years ago, the last time I looked into the Forex
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  market, it was still exchanged there.
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  Okay. So these.
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  So gold is the real money, everything else is fake and the
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  trades against it, I mean that's the way it works in the forks
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  market. That's also part of the way they
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  can make the dollar look better or manipulate the price of gold,
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  whatever they're trying to do. So the dollar is still on top
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  with all this stuff going on with the inflation we have in
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  the United States. And boy, boy, how do you?
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  Are we feeling it with, you know, basically not just
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  everything costing more, but the threat to the digital dollar,
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  the Fed now program is going forward right now, right now,
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  right before our eyes. Businesses are being
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  incentivized to drop the dollar, you know it, you know and then
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  you can use your credit card or your debit card, but no more
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  cash, please, or Federal Reserve notes.
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  So that is happening at the same time.
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  Now the dollar always seems to be on top despite all the stuff
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  going on, Ron. And then you brought up the
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  stagflation. Why is that?
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  Why is it that the dollar is so pretty on the forex market?
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  And that's because all currencies are falling at the
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  same time, but the dollar, you know, is falling at the same
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  rate as everything else. It's going to stay on top.
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  But what it is, is a race to the bottom.
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  Which currencies will hit the bottom 1st and it won't be the
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  dollar despite you know the gold and silver community, a lot of
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  folks think all the dollars just going to go away, the euro take
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  over the Chinese you want or remember you know depending on
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  your vernacular, you know will take over.
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  No digital currencies will take over.
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  The paper currencies are finished.
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  So in my view based on how you frame that, I think that you
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  know basically we have to I think readjust our thinking and
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  that gold and silver itself literally is being forced down
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  in those four X markets along with the paper currencies to
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  keep the dollar looking like the shiniest turd in the box.
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  And so I know it's a long answer, but.
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  Pat, that is so. And I'm going to emphasize this
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  again to everyone who's joining us right now.
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  That is probably the cornerstone concept to why people own silver
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  and gold, but also. Very hard to explain #1 and it
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  can be challenging to understand.
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  So I want to spend just a few more minutes talking about it
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  and maybe I can confuse everybody a little bit more.
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  But I think you did a great job of explaining it, you know, I
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  think one way, one way to think about it is, and I want to get
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  your perspective on this, is if I could imagine.
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  All the gold in the world and all the silver in the world
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  piled up right over here to the left of me in my basement,
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  right? That's a finite, definite
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  number. There's only so much silver.
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  There's only so much gold. And then that's being compared
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  to a pile of dollars and a pile of EUR and a pile of yen, right?
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  Let's just use those three as an example.
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  Are a lot of the other currencies in the world that
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  that those those currencies are being compared to each other I
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  think? One one thing that helped me
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  understand this concept was if suddenly the pile of dollars,
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  the pile of EUR, and the pile of yen doubled in size, each of
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  them doubled in size, their relationship to each other would
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  remain the same, right? But you can't double the size of
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  the gold pile in the silver pot. You can't, right?
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  Good point. But, but eventually, but
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  eventually. Truth and reality went out
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  right, I mean. You would think it doesn't.
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  It doesn't feel that way over the last 50 years, right.
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  But but eventually, you know you can only dam a river for so
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  long, you can only hold a beach ball.
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  But you know, they could quadruple the size of those
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  piles of dollar EUR and and they would all still say, well, you
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  know, the the the the relationship, the exchange rate,
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  the dollar still the strongest, but there's four times more of
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  that paper now, but there's still only so much gold and
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  silver. But once again, we go into
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  nominal confusion with this because the futures market, the
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  futures market dictates to us that the Comex has 10s of
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  billions of Oz of silver waiting to purchase by anyone, right?
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  Does that make sense or did not confuse?
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  That's where the paper futures market works. 10s of billions of
• 21:06
  Oz. In reality, they're struggling
• 21:09
  to keep. You know single digit millions
• 21:12
  of Oz in the Comex and that's the reality.
• 21:15
  So but the but their reality is papered over with you know
• 21:20
  basically high ratios in the futures market for gold and
• 21:23
  silver. How that ties into the Forex,
• 21:25
  you know, well they're doing the same thing with gold except
• 21:29
  silver is far more manipulated in the futures market than gold
• 21:32
  is. I mean I can tell you that
• 21:34
  straight up you there's probably guests that you could have on
• 21:36
  your shelf that would go ahead. I'm sorry you got you.
• 21:40
  You have me so intrigued here by this conversation.
• 21:42
  So, so the way they went with the example I made where you've
• 21:46
  got the pile, the euro, yen and dollar and they they they they
• 21:51
  increase those pile sizes by 4 right.
• 21:55
  In theory in a fair market that would make the value of gold go
• 21:59
  up by four times the way that the way that they or even if
• 22:03
  they increased all those piles by and and let's just use the
• 22:06
  four times example. I think in on simplistic terms
• 22:09
  you could say that's what they've done since you know
• 22:12
  whatever 19801970, whatever year you want to start at.
• 22:16
  The way they're able to, the only way they're able to keep
• 22:19
  gold and silver under control then is to create digital, make
• 22:22
  believe Unicorn fart dust, gold and silver.
• 22:26
  But paper, gold and silver? Paper, Paper gold, yeah, paper
• 22:30
  we will be professional. Paper gold and silver make
• 22:33
  believe digital fairy gold and silver and and that's how they
• 22:37
  keep the price of of of suppressed.
• 22:41
  I don't think they can keep it. They couldn't keep it completely
• 22:45
  suppressed, but they were able to achieve a moderate degree of
• 22:49
  suppression IS. That right, Yes, and the easy
• 22:53
  way to fix this, and it's been talked about quite a bit.
• 22:56
  For years is for people to stand for delivery.
• 22:59
  Literally physically say okay. Here's my futures contract.
• 23:04
  It just expired. I'm here to pick up my silver.
• 23:07
  Hey guys. I've got stories about that I
• 23:09
  meant there's lots of stories about that and and from people
• 23:12
  you know but and I won't go into their names but there's a lot of
• 23:16
  people. Peter Schiff by the way stood
• 23:19
  for delivery back when silver was shoved down to 12 bucks.
• 23:23
  Do you remember that in the futures?
• 23:25
  And Yep, And so of course, Ron, you and I couldn't pick up
• 23:29
  silver for 12 bucks. I meant even with the premiums,
• 23:32
  it was about $17.00, you know, for us to physically pick up
• 23:36
  silver when it was shoved down to 12 in the futures.
• 23:39
  But that was basically so banks could get out of their shorts.
• 23:43
  You know, that that's literally, that's the games they play.
• 23:46
  So if everyone stood for delivery, but they won't,
• 23:49
  because who are the buyers of these futures contracts?
• 23:53
  It's hedge funds and banks. They're playing a game.
• 23:57
  That's it. This is a game.
• 23:59
  How many people like you and I can afford a single silver
• 24:03
  futures contract at 5000 ounces? Very We could, we could, we
• 24:09
  could bind together some of the Ron's basement, the basement
• 24:12
  dwellers, maybe we could pool our money and see if we could
• 24:14
  get one of those big bars. You know, I have heard, I have
• 24:17
  heard from from several, what I consider to be very
• 24:21
  knowledgeable people in terms of that because it's, I think it's
• 24:25
  purposely made to be a bit complicated, right, The Commax
• 24:29
  and the LBMA and it is, you know, and it's really not.
• 24:32
  That complicated? Yeah.
• 24:34
  There's all the weird contracts they came up with, you know,
• 24:37
  because of COVID. Yeah.
• 24:39
  And it's, it's, it's like legal, legal terminology, right?
• 24:43
  You know words that they purposely make confusing that
• 24:46
  really aren't that confusing if you take the time to dig into
• 24:49
  it. But I've heard these the, the,
• 24:51
  the several of these people that that that know what's going on,
• 24:54
  saying that there is a lot of metal that is being sucked out
• 24:58
  of these Western exchanges and it's moving to the east, whether
• 25:02
  you're talking about silver or gold.
• 25:04
  So possibly and it's and it's like we started out this
• 25:07
  conversation with with the, with the with the world changing and
• 25:11
  the bricks expanding. And you know we've got you know
• 25:14
  the Shanghai Gold Exchange, the Moscow World Standard and other
• 25:17
  international markets that are that are going to start to buy
• 25:21
  competitively with the Comex and the LBMA maybe, you know, we
• 25:25
  don't make predictions, but but maybe at some point the, the,
• 25:30
  the domination by these Western exchanges won't be as extreme as
• 25:36
  it has been over the last 50 years.
• 25:41
  That's right. You know that could be, it could
• 25:40
  be. And go ahead.
• 25:43
  No, you go ahead. Well, and and to your point.
• 25:47
  You know, there might be price action because of exchanges
• 25:51
  overseas, but the LBMA and, you know the COMEX are probably not
• 25:55
  going to acknowledge that. But once you create a price and
• 25:59
  and and actually set a price for gold and silver in a nation that
• 26:03
  sets up an arbitrage situation, you know that anyone can take
• 26:07
  advantage of anyone, particularly if there's paper
• 26:09
  markets for that exchange. This is the danger on danger,
• 26:13
  Will Robinson danger. If these exchanges create
• 26:17
  futures markets and if they actually hit the ratios like we
• 26:21
  have in silver, the worst ratio I've ever heard of in the
• 26:24
  futures market was 525 to 1. So in other words, 520 paper
• 26:32
  ounces of silver covering the same ounce of silver that's
• 26:36
  being held in the Comex. So you could have 520 buyers for
• 26:40
  that single oz. You know, if they do that in
• 26:43
  their exchanges, I meant it's silver and gold is just never
• 26:46
  going to go up. Never.
• 26:48
  And so if they've learned how to manipulate the system, you know,
• 26:52
  the way the COMEX and the LBLBMA have been doing it for so long,
• 26:55
  then maybe, you know, basically silver and gold will just have
• 26:59
  to go up in value because of scarcity.
• 27:01
  And that's in that alone you know and and that's we have that
• 27:06
  situation right now Ron and it's called the premiums.
• 27:09
  People complain about the premiums with gold and silver.
• 27:11
  This is the free market literally trying to break
• 27:15
  through that manipulation price. That's why there are premiums
• 27:18
  and and and by the way, if you were stacking back in
• 27:22
  20/16/2017, even into 2018, there is a pretty nice situation
• 27:28
  going on. I meant at 39 cent premiums and
• 27:32
  that was because you know, basically it wasn't as scarce.
• 27:35
  It's getting much scarcer. Look at 2015.
• 27:38
  When the price skyrocketed up to $46 and some odd cents, how did
• 27:43
  the the free market deal with that situation And that was
• 27:47
  actually the miners had money and they started high grading
• 27:51
  the mines. They they were high grading
• 27:54
  everything. And by the way that creates A
• 27:56
  precarious situation to go back in low grade.
• 27:59
  You know the mines and and and by the way, for those of you who
• 28:02
  don't know. High grading a mine means going
• 28:04
  for the easiest, biggest Nuggets, if you will, of silver
• 28:08
  in the ground. Low grading is getting all the
• 28:10
  tiny tiny flakes and it's a different process, A totally
• 28:14
  different process. High grading is quick, short
• 28:19
  sighted, short sighted but leaching a mine with low
• 28:24
  grading. Is an expensive process, use
• 28:27
  lots of chemicals and it takes a lot of money to clean up after
• 28:30
  you're done. So those chemicals that are used
• 28:32
  to leach the silver out of soil, if you will.
• 28:36
  I mean it's almost like that. I mean I hate you should have an
• 28:39
  expert on how silver is mined high grade versus low grade.
• 28:43
  I think of your listeners would really enjoy hearing that, but
• 28:46
  also the financial differences between the two.
• 28:49
  And I'm sorry, maybe I took us off on the wrong track here.
• 28:51
  No, no, no, no, no. I just, I just wanted to mention
• 28:54
  when we talked about the Comex, I like to joke around.
• 28:57
  The Comex is like the the Walmart for precious metals.
• 29:00
  They like to do price rollbacks, yeah.
• 29:02
  They do all look out for falling prices and and people are always
• 29:07
  and and and for everybody listening, we're going to get to
• 29:10
  the gold and silver legislation movement very, very soon here.
• 29:13
  But people are always confused about this difference between
• 29:17
  registered inventory on the Comex.
• 29:20
  And eligible and I came up with we'll have some fun here for a
• 29:24
  second I came up with I thought was a pretty good analogy.
• 29:27
  I said if that means if the Comex were a Walmart, you know
• 29:31
  like Walmart has a big central warehouse where they store
• 29:34
  everything, right, Including and we'll just say silver as Ding
• 29:38
  dogs because our, our good friend of the channel coin shop,
• 29:41
  Chris loves Ding Dong. So at their at the Comex, I'm
• 29:45
  sorry, at the Walmart Central warehouse, they've got their big
• 29:47
  supply of Ding Dongs, right? That's the eligible inventory
• 29:51
  that's eligible, but it's not yet in the stores available for
• 29:55
  sale. The the Ding Dongs they have on
• 29:57
  the shelf in the store, that's the registered inventory that
• 30:00
  people could buy. But, but the important thing to
• 30:03
  remember is that registered inventory, right, those Ding
• 30:07
  Dongs on the boxes of Ding Dongs on the shelf, Walmart would then
• 30:12
  if they were the Comex, they would be selling each box 30 or
• 30:15
  40 or maybe even 300 times over through their website.
• 30:19
  Does that does that make sense? Yes, it does.
• 30:21
  OK, it does. Last mention of Ding Dongs.
• 30:24
  The squirrely stuff they do, I mean, it's really insane, but it
• 30:29
  at the same time, that's a great analogy.
• 30:31
  So you know folks, you know nothing is real in the COMEX.
• 30:36
  Nothing is real in the LBMA because the purpose.
• 30:40
  Of having futures for silver was once again and I don't want to
• 30:45
  get into politics or anything. Unions started with a great
• 30:48
  idea. They know an an actual honest to
• 30:51
  God great idea. But so did futures markets for
• 30:54
  gold and silver. They started with a great idea,
• 30:57
  but it's been perverted. Severely perverted in in my
• 31:00
  argument would be some that's happened with some of the unions
• 31:02
  as well. Yeah.
• 31:04
  And I love I'll wrap up with this on this subject.
• 31:06
  I love the fact that you brought up the premiums and you know
• 31:10
  people love to complain about the premium they do.
• 31:12
  You could make, you could make the argument that actually as a
• 31:16
  stacker of silver, gold or platinum, the premiums are
• 31:19
  actually your friend because that's that's the that's the
• 31:22
  pricing mechanism where to a certain degree we can see what
• 31:26
  the true market value of the metal is at any given time.
• 31:31
  You know premiums skyrocket and you know I get this question all
• 31:35
  the time. It's a subject of great debate,
• 31:38
  right, that that if the market, if we run into some economic
• 31:42
  troubles in the market goes down that we're going to see silver
• 31:44
  crash again right down to 16 or 12 like we like we talked about
• 31:49
  earlier and and I and I bring up the point that hey, you know,
• 31:53
  look what happened back in March and April when we had a little
• 31:56
  bit of a, a hiccup with this banking a big hiccup that got
• 31:59
  papered over the demand. The reaction now is so fast that
• 32:04
  that I don't think and and I know most people don't agree
• 32:07
  with me, but I don't think we're going to see like a big
• 32:09
  downdraft in the price. And even if we do, there's so
• 32:13
  many people that are going to come running into the silver
• 32:16
  market that the premiums will more than make up for any
• 32:21
  artificial temporary phony electronic paper price decrease
• 32:26
  that we might have. And.
• 32:29
  And to and to your point again, the premium is more reflective
• 32:33
  of simple supply and demand, not necessarily rarity okay.
• 32:38
  So everyone needs to understand that that's actually kind of a
• 32:41
  different section. Your rarity is much more
• 32:44
  accurately reflected in the newest nuismatic markets, but
• 32:49
  supply and demand is what's addressed with the premiums.
• 32:53
  So that is much more of a free market than what we have with
• 32:56
  the Comex. In fact, there's no such thing
• 32:57
  as a free market with the Comex. Everything's manipulated and
• 33:01
  people will challenge me on this and they're welcome to.
• 33:04
  And not that I want a lot of, you know, emails challenging me
• 33:08
  on this. I don't have time for that.
• 33:10
  But the fact of the matter is JP Morgan has been caught
• 33:12
  manipulating the price of gold and silver more times than I can
• 33:16
  even remember, and have paid heavy, heavy fines for doing so.
• 33:21
  So what about the Comex? Have they been caught?
• 33:23
  No, because the laws have made what they're doing legal.
• 33:28
  It's legal. And JPMorgan has cover being
• 33:32
  called an agent of the government.
• 33:34
  So they have legal protections for manipulating the price of
• 33:39
  gold and silver. Guys, you got us understand how
• 33:41
  this game works. I meant someone recently
• 33:43
  challenged me, saying Martin, oh gosh darn it, what's his name?
• 33:47
  Used to be a big silver and gold guy.
• 33:49
  Armstrong. Yeah.
• 33:50
  Martin Armstrong, you know, is saying that gold and silver is
• 33:53
  not manipulated, that it's just not manipulated.
• 33:57
  That is simply false. That is a false statement.
• 34:00
  There's so much evidence of this manipulation, but some of it's
• 34:03
  legal and some of it's illegal. Now the legal stuff is what
• 34:07
  Martin Armstrong will say. Well, it's not manipulated
• 34:10
  because that's legal to sell 520 pieces of paper all claiming one
• 34:16
  ounce of silver. It is legal, Ron.
• 34:19
  So I'm not saying, but it's legal and the Treasury lets it
• 34:23
  happen and let me, I'm, I'm, I'm interrupt you because I think
• 34:27
  that that's again another critical thing that I've never
• 34:30
  thought about. So thank you, Pat.
• 34:32
  Right. Just because it's legal doesn't
• 34:35
  mean that it's not manipulation. I mean it can still be
• 34:38
  manipulation and be legal. And on top of that the, the, the
• 34:42
  double zinger on top of that is there's also illegal
• 34:45
  manipulation going on and that's been proven by the fact that if
• 34:49
  our darn government could get convictions on these recently,
• 34:53
  these JP Morgan traders who are going to jail.
• 34:56
  You know that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of illegal
• 35:00
  manipulation. But like you said, and that's a
• 35:02
  great, awesome point that I think a lot of the people join
• 35:06
  us right now may not have. There's also manipulation that's
• 35:09
  legal, and just because it's legal doesn't mean that it's not
• 35:12
  manipulation. That's right.
• 35:15
  So if we can remember that in in adjusting our thinking about
• 35:19
  gold and silver, the way I think of gold and silver and this is
• 35:23
  me, you know, I know a lot of people are watching and they
• 35:26
  want gold and silver to go up and they want to make money on
• 35:28
  their investment and everything. I don't think of gold and silver
• 35:31
  that way. I think of it.
• 35:33
  First of all, it's insurance. Number one, you know, do you
• 35:37
  have health insurance? Do you have car insurance?
• 35:39
  Why not money insurance. That's what gold and silver is
• 35:42
  it. It's really, it's money.
• 35:45
  It's money as well, but but it's insurance.
• 35:48
  But also, it's a great way to do savings.
• 35:52
  If you're looking to buy gold, silver, or platinum, do yourself
• 35:56
  a favor and check out Pin Becks, the online precious metals
• 36:00
  bullion dealer and sponsor of Ron's basement.
• 36:03
  I was a happy customer before they offered to support the
• 36:07
  channel. You'll find they have the best
• 36:09
  prices, quality, and service. I think Pin Becks is best, and
• 36:14
  you will too. And be sure to tell them that
• 36:16
  you're from Ron's basement. Gold and silver are real money.
• 36:20
  They always have been. They always will be the world.
• 36:23
  The big wide world we talked about this is, is is moving more
• 36:28
  toward rerecognizing gold and silver.
• 36:31
  Israel money individuals throughout the world and even in
• 36:35
  the United States growing number of people are like you just said
• 36:38
  realizing gold and silver are at minimum at minimum.
• 36:43
  This is the way I like to say it.
• 36:44
  At minimum are a great way to protect your wealth.
• 36:47
  There's some options that could come through, you know, that
• 36:50
  could be a very lucrative for people that hold silver, gold.
• 36:53
  But at minimum it's it's a it's a it's a great way to to to to
• 36:57
  store wealth and to ensure your wealth and to to protect
• 37:01
  yourself. Now we got the States and the
• 37:04
  United States right, a growing number of states over the last
• 37:07
  what, 5-10 years you are. I hope you're okay with me
• 37:14
  saying this, but a real warrior in particular for the state of
• 37:18
  Missouri in forwarding gold and silver legislation.
• 37:22
  How do you see that landscape right now?
• 37:26
  I guess we can talk about Missouri, we can talk about on a
• 37:28
  national basis, but what it's interesting that we have
• 37:32
  individual states, right? Kansas, Utah, there's a whole
• 37:36
  list of them that have passed legislation or are in the
• 37:40
  process. How do you see that developing?
• 37:42
  I mean, to me it's I'm real to me, you know, Andy Schechman
• 37:46
  says you, you look at the crumbs and try to put the evidence
• 37:49
  together. When I when I hear about states,
• 37:52
  this growing number of states moving to let their citizens
• 37:56
  reclaim their constitutional right to use silver and gold as
• 37:59
  money, to me that that that makes, that's very interesting.
• 38:04
  Well, and I hate to actually reframe it, but in some cases we
• 38:08
  have to, you know. Claw and scratch our way and
• 38:12
  we're not being let anything. I mean, we're fighting for it.
• 38:15
  And in Missouri is a great example, but there was one man
• 38:18
  that stopped our bill in the state of Missouri.
• 38:21
  His name is Dean Plocker and he's the speaker of the House in
• 38:24
  the state of Missouri. Other states got through without
• 38:28
  any grassroots movement pushing it through or with very little.
• 38:32
  So it's different for every state.
• 38:34
  We have a lot of corruption in Missouri, so we're exposing that
• 38:37
  corruption. That's what we do.
• 38:39
  But you know it it the best way to get rid of corruption is to
• 38:43
  have an honest monetary system. Period.
• 38:46
  End of story. I meant it's the beginning and
• 38:48
  end of of of freeing America from the yoke of the dollar
• 38:52
  because the dollar is used to enslave us.
• 38:54
  And I don't want to get into a big long thing about that
• 38:57
  because actually I can, I can filibuster, I can literally take
• 39:00
  over of how we're enslaved through the use of the dollar
• 39:04
  and how the world is enslaved by the use of the dollar.
• 39:07
  So taking what I said earlier. The, the allegory, you know,
• 39:12
  arguments for insurance or for savings is, is very, very
• 39:17
  important for people to understand because that applies
• 39:20
  to my thinking, even when it comes to getting gold and silver
• 39:24
  as legal legislation in the state of Missouri and indeed in
• 39:27
  any other state, and this is paramount when we know the
• 39:33
  dollar is going to collapse. Don't worry though, The Federal
• 39:36
  Reserve has a digital dollar ready to go.
• 39:38
  Ready to get all of us on it. But first thing they're what
• 39:41
  they're doing right now through Fed Now is creating a cashless
• 39:45
  society. We've heard about it for years.
• 39:47
  It's been threatened for years. We have for years been hearing
• 39:51
  all We're going to be cashless someday.
• 39:53
  That's happening right before Eyes right now, gang.
• 39:55
  That's the Fed Now program. That's what it's designed to do.
• 39:58
  Among other things. They say they're going to make
• 40:01
  everything much easier and make everything happen much faster
• 40:04
  through the Fed Now program. The Fed now is literally a way
• 40:07
  to literally get the cash out of the system.
• 40:10
  I ask you a quick question, your opinion on this Fed Now system.
• 40:14
  You know, I love my analogies, but is the Fed Now system like
• 40:20
  the infrastructure that the CBDC can be plugged into?
• 40:25
  And let me okay. Let me let me let me use this
• 40:28
  analogy for the for the listeners and and tell me if you
• 40:32
  think this is yet another. Unbelievably great analogy from
• 40:36
  Ron's basement, haha. But imagine if you if you live
• 40:40
  on the outskirts of a city and you paid $15,000 out of your
• 40:46
  pocket 10 years ago to build a well.
• 40:48
  So you would have your own water supply, right?
• 40:51
  And then all of a sudden one day, the city's expanding.
• 40:54
  And some trucks show up and they start digging your yard up and
• 40:57
  you go out there and you say, hey, what are you guys doing?
• 40:59
  And they say overlaying the new, the new supply, the new water
• 41:02
  supply lines throughout your whole, your whole neighborhood.
• 41:06
  And and you think, well, that's interesting.
• 41:09
  I didn't know that was going on. And don't worry about it.
• 41:12
  It's just, you know, just there for the future.
• 41:15
  We're putting new, you know what we're we're we're expanding the
• 41:18
  city water system to your neighborhood.
• 41:21
  And then at some point, cuz I think where I live in St.
• 41:23
  Louis County, it's illegal for me to have my own well in my
• 41:25
  yard. At some point you get a letter
• 41:27
  in the mail two years later saying you are now legally
• 41:30
  required to hook on to the city water system.
• 41:33
  You can no longer you does that. Is that a good analogy?
• 41:36
  That's an excellent analogy, and that's precisely what they're
• 41:40
  doing. And by the way, there's probably
• 41:42
  versions of the Fed Now program going on all over the West, all
• 41:47
  over the West. There's probably an Australian
• 41:50
  central bank version going on in Australia right now.
• 41:52
  There's probably a Canadian version going on in Canada right
• 41:55
  now. But it's all the same thing.
• 41:57
  Get the cash out of the system, go digital on everything.
• 42:01
  You know that's what they're trying to do.
• 42:03
  And by the way, you can, I'm on Twitter and I've seen people
• 42:07
  literally posting pictures on Twitter they're taking with
• 42:10
  their phone at businesses in their area saying that we no
• 42:13
  longer accept cash. You know, it's, it's happening
• 42:16
  again. And the banks are incentivizing
• 42:18
  the businesses to do this. They're somehow benefiting by
• 42:21
  going to the system. So who's incentivizing the
• 42:24
  banks? That's the government and the
• 42:26
  Federal Reserve. You can go to Six Flags in Saint
• 42:29
  Louis, the amusement park, and you can get into the park, but
• 42:34
  you can't use cash, just to your point.
• 42:37
  And the last year they've made it a requirement that if you
• 42:39
  want to buy anything in the park, you either.
• 42:42
  Load cash into this little card or you use a credit card, right.
• 42:45
  I mean it is happening. Yeah, it is happening.
• 42:48
  And I see it more and more in Saint Louis County where you
• 42:51
  know, restaurants or we're saying up no cash, you know, we
• 42:54
  don't take cash anymore. So I don't know what else to
• 42:59
  say. I mean, it's happening.
• 43:00
  And the fact that it that's a conspiracy theory, gosh darn it,
• 43:04
  Ron, if I had a nickel for every time someone called me a
• 43:07
  conspiracy theorist and then whatever I said, you know,
• 43:09
  actually came true. And that's only because I read
• 43:11
  the documents. You know, I read Fed now and
• 43:15
  like I said, that's a big, complicated program.
• 43:17
  But the end result is the same no matter how you read it or how
• 43:20
  many times you read it. It comes down to the same thing,
• 43:22
  getting rid of cash, period. And the story that is the
• 43:25
  purpose of Fed Now. Now it does other things too,
• 43:28
  but that's the main purpose of it.
• 43:31
  So, so go ahead. I'm sorry.
• 43:33
  No, I was glad the states are moving to help protect their
• 43:36
  citizens. What, what's what?
• 43:38
  What, what? What are you seeing in that
• 43:39
  regard? You bet.
• 43:40
  So the states need to actually acknowledge the fact that the
• 43:44
  dollar is being used to enslave the people.
• 43:48
  And the when you go to a digital dollar and you go to social
• 43:52
  credit scoring. Or in the case of larger
• 43:54
  organizations such as a state government to county government
• 43:57
  to city government, ESG, Environmental, social
• 44:00
  governance. So think of that.
• 44:02
  Is the Social Credit scoring for a business or for a government?
• 44:06
  Even though it's a city government, they can be
• 44:09
  controlled by the Federal Reserve and the federal
• 44:11
  government through their digital wallet and ESG.
• 44:15
  The compliance with ESG will be mandatory.
• 44:19
  You do exactly You don't. You run your business under
• 44:23
  these COVID rules. You run your business under
• 44:27
  these environmental rules. Otherwise we'll just shut down
• 44:31
  your wallet or we'll bring down your score, you know, which will
• 44:35
  reduce your ability to get, you know, discounts on the supplies
• 44:40
  you need to run your business. Because those guys you're
• 44:43
  partnered with, you're getting supplies from are also under ESG
• 44:47
  and social credit scoring and a digital wallet.
• 44:51
  And I can go into further that affect you and me more, but I
• 44:54
  think it's really important to understand that most folks are
• 44:57
  thinking about, oh, Social Credit scoring.
• 44:59
  We see this in China and it looks horrible that we don't
• 45:01
  want it here in the United States.
• 45:02
  What they're not thinking of is right now through Fed.
• 45:06
  Now we're basically starting to get the same thing with
• 45:08
  businesses that we will be doing business with if they stop
• 45:12
  taking cash. And before long, they'll have
• 45:14
  little cameras in their doorway like they do in China to, you
• 45:17
  know, get an image of your face to determine whether or not you
• 45:20
  can even go into that store because you have, you know, a a
• 45:23
  Social Credit score that's too low.
• 45:25
  You you've been denied access. You can't come in here.
• 45:28
  You know, you said something critical about the government on
• 45:31
  social media. Here's your punishment.
• 45:33
  You can't go anywhere for the next 30 days, but think.
• 45:36
  About it. You can't buy gasoline.
• 45:38
  You can't. That's right.
• 45:40
  That's right. Getting an airline ticket,
• 45:41
  right? Yeah, interesting, okay.
• 45:43
  So now let's do a big picture, Ron, before we get into more on
• 45:46
  legislation. The big picture is what if your
• 45:50
  state is under basically the same yoke because they have a
• 45:56
  digital wallet, They're also dealing in digital dollars.
• 45:59
  And ESG says they have to adhere to the these weird policies and
• 46:05
  procedures. And the World Health
• 46:07
  Organization is one that we need to be very wary of.
• 46:09
  I meant and not to. I'm get.
• 46:11
  I'm not trying to get into politics, but the World Health
• 46:14
  Organization has a lot of control over health policy in
• 46:17
  the United States. In the event of a pandemic that
• 46:23
  will be tied into ESG and Social Credit scoring, my friends, we
• 46:28
  this is not good stuff coming down the Pike.
• 46:31
  We need another option in our States and the federal
• 46:35
  government is not going to give us gold and silver.
• 46:37
  I mean, I'm sorry, I'm. I'm here to tell you right now,
• 46:40
  as much as I love Eric Thrasher and I've talked to him, he's a
• 46:43
  great guy and he is savethedollar.org.
• 46:47
  Not that I'm promoting his site or anything, but he was talking
• 46:49
  about gold backing the dollar. You know, that's what he's
• 46:52
  trying to accomplish. That ain't going to happen.
• 46:54
  The federal government is not going to go back or silver back
• 46:57
  anything. They want us digital.
• 47:00
  They want us under their yoke. They want us under their
• 47:02
  control. So the only way to do it is to
• 47:05
  reinstate silver, gold and silver.
• 47:07
  Yes, we can have electronic versions, you know of
• 47:09
  transactions for Golden over the the free market has had this for
• 47:13
  a long time. We can have gold backs.
• 47:14
  Those are really cool. If you've never seen a gold
• 47:16
  back, look it up, You guys are going to love it.
• 47:18
  It's like carrying cash in your wallet.
• 47:21
  Here, hold on one second, Pat. Sure, give me one second.
• 47:24
  Here this is an example of show and tell I might have.
• 47:29
  One, This is a gold back. Yeah.
• 47:31
  Yep. Yep.
• 47:32
  There you go. From Utah?
• 47:35
  Yep. Okay.
• 47:37
  So go ahead. So this is guys.
• 47:40
  This is much more fundamental than wanting gold and silver to
• 47:43
  go up in value. This is literally keeping your
• 47:46
  freedom, your kids freedom, your grandkids freedom.
• 47:48
  People who come after you, you know, basically will need some
• 47:52
  kind of freedom for transactions, and it won't exist
• 47:56
  with a digital dollar. There's no freedom there.
• 47:59
  There's tyranny there from beginning to finish, its
• 48:01
  tyranny. And for people who think all the
• 48:04
  government loves us and they're going to take care of us and
• 48:06
  they really do want what's best for us are fooling themselves.
• 48:10
  We have seen the manipulation of gold and silver, the inflation
• 48:15
  that we've been under, you know, which was, you know, because of
• 48:17
  all the the money printing under COVID.
• 48:20
  I meant honest to God, folks, I meant and then ratcheting up of
• 48:23
  interest rates, that's hurting everybody.
• 48:25
  They hurt us with the inflation and now they're hurting us with
• 48:27
  interest rates. They don't care if we're
• 48:30
  hurting. Let me let me, let me, let me
• 48:37
  throw this in real quick If, if, if people question whether or
• 48:42
  not the government's going to take care of them, look no
• 48:45
  further. I mean, it's actually really
• 48:33
  simple to see it. From my point of view, it's
• 48:35
  very. The government took care of a
• 48:47
  certain segment of the population.
• 48:49
  The government took care of the wealthy.
• 48:52
  The one. Percenters, Yeah, the one
• 48:53
  percenters, if you look back to, I mean, you know, let's just say
• 48:57
  2008, for instance, and you look at the.
• 49:00
  The amount of wealth that's been transferred from the middle
• 49:03
  class, not to the lower class? No, it was all transferred from
• 49:07
  the middle class to the top 1%, top .5%.
• 49:11
  The numbers are staggering. And of course that's not
• 49:14
  reported to us on the CNN, the Children's News Network or Fox
• 49:19
  or any of the major networks, right?
• 49:21
  But the reality is. Yeah, the government took care
• 49:23
  of some people. They took care of the wealthy
• 49:26
  and they did. Sorry, I had to throw that in.
• 49:28
  No, you would be correct because my assessment actually didn't
• 49:32
  account for that And you were absolutely correct.
• 49:34
  The 1% are always well taken care of by the government.
• 49:38
  They get all the contracts, you know, they own the companies
• 49:40
  that get the contracts, they get the tax breaks, you know, they,
• 49:44
  they get well served by our government.
• 49:46
  But that proves one thing and if you believe what Ron and I just
• 49:49
  said, that the 1% or taken care of, we do not have a
• 49:54
  constitutional Republic. What we have is, you know,
• 49:57
  something much closer to the old definition of fascism or what
• 50:01
  people to call today, corporatism or mercantilism or
• 50:04
  crony capitalism. Pick your word.
• 50:07
  That's the government we have here today.
• 50:09
  And gold and silver does not play well in that environment.
• 50:14
  It it literally breaks that system.
• 50:17
  This is how you get your freedom back, folks.
• 50:19
  You have got to literally have real, honest to God money again.
• 50:23
  It will change everything for the better.
• 50:25
  And unfortunately, some of the things that we love, you know,
• 50:29
  like NASA. I'm going to throw something
• 50:30
  weird out, Ron. I'm going on a tangent now.
• 50:34
  NASA couldn't exist under an environment of of gold and
• 50:38
  silver is money. There's not enough money to send
• 50:40
  you know, stuff into space that way.
• 50:43
  But there's not enough money to fund our military either.
• 50:46
  It just ain't there. There's no money for entitlement
• 50:49
  programs under gold and silver. See where I'm going with this
• 50:52
  run. See, the way they expand
• 50:54
  government and get people under the yoke won't exist under a
• 50:58
  true monetary system. We can be freed by this.
• 51:02
  But the people go, gosh darn it, I I need my entitlements, you
• 51:07
  know? You know.
• 51:09
  Well, this is what I can say. If you do math, and I love math,
• 51:13
  if you do math for how much money you paid into Social
• 51:15
  Security your entire life, and if you did something else with
• 51:18
  that, for instance, put it in gold and silver as well, you
• 51:21
  would be much, much better off when it comes time to retire.
• 51:25
  I can tell you this, Look at the last 40 years, gold and silver.
• 51:29
  What was gold 40 years ago? You know, 200 bucks?
• 51:33
  That sounds about right. You know, in the $200.00 range.
• 51:37
  Now it's 2000, so it's gone up 10 times.
• 51:41
  And that's and that's within an environment where there's been a
• 51:44
  concerted operation to keep the the price down.
• 51:47
  That's correct. I need to throw that one in
• 51:49
  there. Yeah, right.
• 51:50
  Consider that. Consider that.
• 51:52
  Yep. But silver, you know, has done
• 51:54
  basically kind of the same thing.
• 51:56
  And then if you add premiums on top of it, you're doing even
• 51:58
  better. So this is the and and by the
• 52:02
  way and and I know it gets kind of political when I bring that
• 52:05
  stuff up and I'm trying not to do that even though we're in an
• 52:08
  environment of politics. We operate the Missouri Freedom
• 52:11
  Initiative. We operate in politics.
• 52:14
  I mean that's where we operate. But we don't do the right left
• 52:16
  paradigm thing. We just don't do it.
• 52:19
  It serves no purpose. We just try to appeal to common
• 52:22
  sense and the Constitution of the United States in in.
• 52:25
  Go ahead. Do you?
• 52:26
  You do. Is it?
• 52:28
  Is it a safe assessment? You don't do Democrat.
• 52:30
  You don't do Republican. I'd like to say this and you
• 52:33
  correct me if I'm wrong, but you do truth you.
• 52:36
  Do you do truth and transparency because transparency and the
• 52:40
  Constitution and the Bill of Rights, Yeah.
• 52:43
  Yeah, because Pat Holland and and and I and I failed miserably
• 52:47
  and talking about your organization during this, during
• 52:50
  this talk that we're having the Missouri Freedom Initiative, you
• 52:53
  do that work. Basically for free, right?
• 52:57
  I mean, you're you're, you're you, you do go out of your way
• 53:02
  to be very transparent. And what you're after is I'm
• 53:07
  going to say the truth, I guess in a nutshell.
• 53:10
  That's right. That is correct.
• 53:11
  The truth and also freeing the people.
• 53:15
  And. And it doesn't matter what color
• 53:17
  skin you have. It doesn't matter if you
• 53:19
  associate with Republican or Democrat, or if you think you're
• 53:23
  a dolphin. We don't care.
• 53:25
  Everyone needs to be served by the Constitution of the United
• 53:28
  States. Everyone needs to be served by
• 53:30
  the Bill of Rights. Everyone deserves and not only
• 53:34
  deserves, but has a right to gold and silver as money.
• 53:39
  Everyone and the And by the way we have it, it's it's beautiful.
• 53:43
  It's an Article One, Section 10 of the Constitution.
• 53:45
  But look at other countries, Ron, that don't have the
• 53:47
  Constitution of the United States.
• 53:49
  Look at India. We're gold and silver.
• 53:52
  It's part of their culture as how you save for future
• 53:55
  generations. Yeah, it's a big part of their
• 53:58
  culture. And in fact, basically I think
• 54:00
  it's frowned upon in India if you spend any of it.
• 54:03
  Yeah, you know, it's the inverse.
• 54:05
  It's the inverse of what we have in the United States.
• 54:08
  Like here we're the. We we are kind of the, for lack
• 54:12
  of a better word, the, you know, the the the rebels or the black
• 54:16
  sheep or whatever, right, Silver and gold stackers.
• 54:18
  Whereas over there, like you just said if you're a person who
• 54:21
  spends your silver or gold or maybe doesn't have it, you're
• 54:25
  considered you know a black sheep.
• 54:27
  You're it's a completely opposite situation.
• 54:30
  Yep. Because this is how you pass on
• 54:32
  your wealth to the next generation.
• 54:35
  Yeah. And we used to do that here in
• 54:36
  the United States, too. It used to be cultural here too.
• 54:40
  And what focus of that, the inclusion of the Federal
• 54:43
  Reserve? Yeah, yeah.
• 54:45
  Imaginary money. Imaginary money, right.
• 54:48
  I mean, look, I mean, this is, I mean, you know, whatever, it
• 54:55
  still blows my mind that you can convert this paper into real.
• 55:00
  At all. And that's because people are
• 55:02
  still accepting it. Faith and confidence is really
• 55:05
  the only thing that gives value. Ron.
• 55:07
  If you and I did not pay taxes in dollars, dollars would be
• 55:11
  worthless. It's not even about oil at that
• 55:13
  point. What gives the confidence for a
• 55:15
  country to buy dollars to to our, you know, exchange for
• 55:19
  dollars? May I don't know what the
• 55:20
  terminology is here in order to buy oil.
• 55:23
  It's because American, American people work for the dollar.
• 55:26
  They pay taxes in it. We fund our government with it.
• 55:29
  That's what gives. It's also a faith game, a faith
• 55:32
  and confidence game. So go ahead, Go ahead.
• 55:35
  Well, I'm gonna interject this cuz I thought of this based on
• 55:38
  what you just said. So, so yeah, right.
• 55:41
  Faith and confidence. Right.
• 55:43
  I've heard several people recently say that the biggest
• 55:46
  asset that our government has is the student loan debt money
• 55:50
  that's owed to them. Okay.
• 55:52
  And I've also heard several reports of surveys, right,
• 55:56
  there's, but there was a, whatever you want to call it, a
• 55:58
  three-year pause on people having to pay on their student
• 56:01
  loans because of the health crisis that we had in 2020.
• 56:05
  And then in October those paint, they're going to have to start
• 56:07
  making payments again. But that like almost 50% of the
• 56:11
  people that are surveyed are saying like I'm not going to
• 56:14
  pay. I can't afford it.
• 56:16
  I can't. You know, right, the, the, the,
• 56:18
  you know, real incomes have decreased by whatever 1015,
• 56:22
  probably more like 20 or 25% over the last year.
• 56:25
  These people are like, I'm just not going to pay.
• 56:27
  I mean, I'm not saying that's going to catalyze a collapse of
• 56:33
  the dollar, but what does that tell like people, it's like, you
• 56:36
  know what? I don't care.
• 56:37
  I'm just not going to pay. Do what you want with me, Put me
• 56:40
  in jail. I don't care.
• 56:41
  People are like. You know, it is based on
• 56:44
  confidence, but that confidence is fragile, right?
• 56:47
  And it's delicate. And I'm sorry I had to
• 56:49
  interject, but you just really sparked that in my mind.
• 56:52
  Like it is delicate. It is fragile.
• 56:55
  Well, and not to put too fun, I say this a lot.
• 56:58
  Not to put too fun a point on it, but the fact of the matter
• 57:01
  is under gold and silver that school, that student debt
• 57:03
  wouldn't even exist in the 1st place and and we wouldn't have a
• 57:08
  crisis. So the dollar allows for lots of
• 57:15
  crisis. Let me, let me, let me go ahead.
• 57:18
  Go ahead. But I got one more thing I got
• 57:19
  to say. But go, please.
• 57:20
  I'm sorry I keep interrupting you.
• 57:21
  Credit card debt. Keep an eye on that, gang.
• 57:24
  We've never seen it so high before.
• 57:27
  We don't have a good economy. People are living on debt where
• 57:30
  that's another crisis. And think about student loan
• 57:34
  debt. Think about student loan debt.
• 57:37
  We live in a country where. People go into debt, right?
• 57:42
  Enslave themselves basically so that they can get an education,
• 57:46
  so that they can enslave themselves further.
• 57:49
  I mean, you know, you know, I mean like, what?
• 57:51
  What? What a system, what a great
• 57:52
  deal, right? Go into debt so you can work for
• 57:55
  the rest of your life paying off the debt.
• 57:57
  That you got into so that you could work for the rest of your
• 58:00
  life. I mean, it's crazy.
• 58:01
  It's crazy. It's all headed up by Marxist
• 58:03
  professors in the college just to.
• 58:06
  I mean, they couldn't be more perfect.
• 58:08
  Anyway, you can't make this stuff up.
• 58:10
  No, it's crazy. I apologize.
• 58:13
  I've interrupted you several times, but you.
• 58:15
  Say things that spark me, that I just can't help myself.
• 58:18
  It's the red shirt. It's got to be what it is.
• 58:21
  Yeah, so. Go ahead.
• 58:24
  So let's move you know out of that arena into real quick, you
• 58:28
  know the the thrust, the drive, you know and also hopefully the
• 58:32
  complimentary move across the United States.
• 58:36
  Not a movement, a revolution of gold and silver legislation for
• 58:40
  all the reasons we talked about today.
• 58:42
  Pardon me again. And I think it's it's a good
• 58:46
  time for me to point out something that we're doing in
• 58:49
  the Missouri Freedom Initiative. Now we've got a new Webmaster,
• 58:52
  his name is Tom, great guy, Godsend actually, and he is
• 58:59
  actually in this is announcement I've made on another YouTube
• 59:03
  channel, but I'm making it here too.
• 59:05
  We're actually including forums in our website specifically with
• 59:10
  other states in mind. We need a central location for
• 59:13
  states that are running gold and silver and for the people who
• 59:16
  support that legislation in their states to come together.
• 59:19
  For, you know, anything from ideas to literally putting
• 59:25
  together a coalescing a group of people in in one place where
• 59:28
  they can actually get their people together to support their
• 59:30
  legislation in their state. And also it serves another
• 59:33
  purpose because of Ron's basement and the popularity
• 59:37
  thereof. During 2023 when we were running
• 59:40
  legislation in Missouri and Ron was kind enough to let us come
• 59:43
  on the channel and deal with him real time with the Missouri
• 59:46
  legislature in the state we both live in.
• 59:48
  By the way, I I as a result over a long period of time got
• 59:53
  thousands of emails asking questions, needing help trying
• 59:58
  to get it the legislation in their states.
• 1:00:00
  And that takes a lot of time to answer that many emails.
• 1:00:03
  And I believe every single person got an individual
• 1:00:06
  personalized e-mail back to them answering their questions or it
• 1:00:10
  providing the assistance they needed.
• 1:00:11
  But that's really, really tough for me to do.
• 1:00:14
  That takes a lot of time. If we have a forum and someone
• 1:00:18
  asked a question, boom, the answer can be for everybody.
• 1:00:22
  And that way we don't have to work it that way.
• 1:00:23
  So we're working smarter this time around in 2024.
• 1:00:28
  And we should have by the way, Ron, because that's, I know this
• 1:00:31
  is your next question. What are we going to have the,
• 1:00:33
  the final draft of the rough draft of the silver and gold
• 1:00:36
  legislation for everyone to see for the state of Missouri?
• 1:00:40
  Because we're kind of the godfather of this and I talked
• 1:00:43
  to Senator Igel's office yesterday and I'm pretty sure
• 1:00:46
  within two to three weeks we should see that legislation And
• 1:00:50
  we can post it publicly so everyone can see it and they can
• 1:00:54
  take it over to their state and literally start the basis of of
• 1:00:58
  drafting the legislation for their state, using ours as a
• 1:01:01
  template, a starting starting point.
• 1:01:04
  So that's a big announcement we're making and it's going to
• 1:01:08
  help everyone. And we're also going to have all
• 1:01:11
  kinds of resources on this website, all kinds of resources
• 1:01:15
  for people to go to if they need additional assistance.
• 1:01:18
  Or you know, basically the 10th Amendment Center is a great
• 1:01:20
  example. But also any YouTube channel
• 1:01:24
  that wants to carry news on what's going on, on the state's
• 1:01:28
  battles to reclaim their right to gold and silver as money will
• 1:01:32
  be prominently displayed in the website.
• 1:01:35
  Ron, I think you know who I'm talking about.
• 1:01:39
  It'll be my honor. I just can't.
• 1:01:41
  I think that is a great idea. This forum, because I can tell
• 1:01:44
  you from my community, yeah, it was.
• 1:01:47
  I know you were overwhelmed with interest, which is great, right?
• 1:01:50
  And I was as well. I just sensed it in the comments
• 1:01:54
  section. Emails that I got as well, many
• 1:01:56
  of which was easy for me. I just forwarded them to you, I
• 1:02:00
  think a central meeting place for people.
• 1:02:04
  To support each other in this cause and develop a sense of
• 1:02:10
  community within that causes a great idea.
• 1:02:12
  And I'll do everything I can on my end to help support it and to
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  point people in that direction. And I I just get a real strong
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  feeling in my bones that it's going to be a raging success.
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  So I can't wait to see, you know, the final product and when
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  I can then, you know, talk to my audience about going there.
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  To learn to get support and to help further this cause that,
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  you know, to help us, you know, reclaim our right to use silver
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  and gold is real money. That's right.
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  And also a limitation on the federal government that they
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  can't go beyond silver and gold. We got the 16th Amendment out of
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  that puppy. And also, you know, we just have
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  to have confidence that it was ratified by all 50 states.
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  That's another story altogether, Ron.
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  We won't get into today, but but the website ismofree.org, it's
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  the same website. It's been redesigned.
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  We're doing it from scratch, from the ground up.
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  And the forums are there right now, but they're in a somewhat
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  of an embryonic state. They're being developed and
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  actually that's going to happen very quickly.
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  And I encourage everybody and also too if you want to get on
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  the e-mail list, particularly if you are in Missouri, please get
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  on the e-mail list. And because we'll and when we're
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  in the legislative session, if you're not in that e-mail list
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  and if you're interested in this gold and silver legislation, you
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  are missing out because everything that we do is it goes
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  out by e-mail and that was born run out of the censorship that
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  we've enjoyed. You know, unfortunately for many
• 1:03:45
  platforms such as YouTube on our channel, many people have asked
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  why aren't you using your YouTube channel.
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  We've been censored too many times there.
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  We constantly get strikes and even with the, you know,
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  subjects, well, there's different than gold and silver
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  subjects that we talked about, but we deal with other things
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  too. And that has been something that
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  has forced us to go to Odyssey. But also we're branching out
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  into Rumble, I believe, starting this Saturday.
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  So they know people want to follow what we're doing, but
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  it's not all gold and silver. We do other things in the state
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  of Missouri as well. But if you're in another state,
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  you might want to pay attention to what the Missouri Freedom
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  Initiative is doing. I think you might want to take
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  some of our ideas and try to employ them in your states.
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  And also, we have never claimed to be the smartest people out
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  there, ever. If people have great ideas, we
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  want to hear them. Of course we do when it comes to
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  dealing with state legislation, you know, and and then how we
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  actually operate, you know, basically.
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  And once again, we're not right left paradigm folks.
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  So we deal with even the Democrats.
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  We deal with Republicans. We have Republicans that are
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  just as interesting to deal with as Democrats and that's if
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  that's just the truth up in Missouri.
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  So but we want to deal with everyone up there.
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  So that's thank you for letting me make that announcement
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  because I think that will be helpful for all the states, all
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  the states as particular ones that want to get gold and silver
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  legislation done. Ron, this all started with you
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  on your channel in February of 2023.
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  You had only one carrying the news on what the states were
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  doing, so I won't forget that and I hope hopefully the other
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  people in other states will see you as a resource as well.
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  I'm I'm honored that you said that and I'm flattered that you
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  said that and you know, the the the, you know, I think the world
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  of you, you know, most people watching will probably realize
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  that you've done just a tremendous amount of work to you
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  know help further this cause not just in Missouri but other
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  states as well. So thank you, Pat.
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  And it's been, you know, it's been great getting to know you
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  and and thank you for coming on today.
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  You're very intelligent and every time I talk with you I
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  learn. I mean that's how we learn.
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  And this even relates back to your forums that you're going to
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  have opened up. We learn from each other.
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  You know there, there there's, you know if I just stick in my
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  own head all day long, the chances of me learning something
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  new are almost zero. And when I'm, you know, when I
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  or the people that are joining us right now have an
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  opportunity. To hear from somebody else,
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  especially somebody who, and I'm not trying to butter you up, it
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  is as bright and well spoken as you are.
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  It's a real opportunity to, you know to open some new doors and
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  to see things a little differently and and that's what
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  we're all here for to help each other.
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  So I I can't wait to see the success of the Missouri Freedom
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  Initiative, but also those forums is I really have a strong
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  feeling that there's going to be a lot of people.
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  Who get a lot of help and get a lot of growth from from that
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  platform. Thank you for your kind words,
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  Ron. I'm I'm going to disagree with
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  you on being you know, me being real smart, but fake it.
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  I totally, 100% fake it. But any rate I'll tell you what
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  gang of 1 more thing. I'm just going to throw
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  something out there. If you're in Missouri and if you
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  want to partake in gold and silver, we're going to do our
• 1:07:11
  first knock and shock operation on January 9th of 2024.
• 1:07:16
  It's also known as Gold and Silver Day and we intend to have
• 1:07:20
  a very large presence at the capitol in Missouri.
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  So if if you're inclined to do so, if you live in Missouri,
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  mark it on your calendar, come join us in person in real life.
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  These are really fun events. And then Ron, I I want to say
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  one more thing and this isn't, you know, basically the mutual,
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  you know, association here or anything like that.
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  Your help and when we're up at the Capitol and you do a live
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  stream and I can call you and let you know about a bottleneck
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  we're experiencing up at the Capitol in real time and call
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  you up and then ask for people to make phone calls has been
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  very helpful. And I hope we can count on your
• 1:07:59
  help for that again to get this legislation, silver and gold
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  through in the state of Missouri.
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  I'll do whatever I can to help the cause and I and I want to
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  point out to people to these knock and shock.
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  Events are perfectly legal. It's your right as a citizen to
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  go to the Capitol and and what? And correct me if I'm wrong, but
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  essentially what you're doing is walking around the Capitol and
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  talking, going to offices of different legislatures, which is
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  there, that's what they're there for.
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  They work for you, right. This is perfectly legal.
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  It's actually, it's what it's what George Washington and
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  Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson would want you to be
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  doing. Am I correct in saying that I
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  would think so. Yeah, and going and Abraham
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  Lincoln can't forget about him and going to these legislators
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  offices and presenting to them, you know, your thoughts and in
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  particular, you know on the gold and silver legislation that's
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  exactly what we do. So this isn't a rally.
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  This isn't. You know, you know?
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  There's no tear gas or anything. I don't want people to go, you
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  know, this is this is a. Professional operation.
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  I'm sorry. It is, but it's not corporate.
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  It's very organic. So I'll develop a flyer and a
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  flyer I I printed out myself and I bring up, you know, a big
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  stack of these Flyers to hand out to the groups for knock and
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  shock. And what they do is they go
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  around in large groups and literally stuff themselves into
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  a legislator's office, either a representative or a senator, and
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  literally talk to the Silver and Gold bill and have a discussion
• 1:09:36
  with them. They want to get their feedback
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  too. It's so it's not like we're
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  shoving something down a legislator's throat.
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  Nothing could be further from the truth.
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  We're having a conversation and it.
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  But of course, you know, there's like 30 of us and there's one of
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  them, you know, so we have a captive audience.
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  Make sure you wear your red shirt.
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  Okay, that brings you good luck. Yep, Wear the red shirt.
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  That's right. I'm going to get one of those.
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  I'm going to get one of those fancy vests next time we're on.
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  I have one on the bear for you, right.
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  There you go. Yeah, I have a silver and gold
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  Paisley vests that I wear along with ties when I go up to the
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  Capitol for knock and shock. You know, of course, supporting
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  gold and silver. But that's exactly what we do.
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  There's nothing more to it than that.
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  It's it's just we're going up in large groups and we're
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  advocating for the Gold and Silver Bill with legislators and
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  we're also giving them a print, you know, a handout so they
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  remember us. It's kind of like a
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  commemorative memorabilia for that legislator to remember that
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  the Missouri Freedom Initiative was there to talk about the
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  Silver and Gold Bill. So we have the, you know the
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  information that we're conveying that day for that knock and
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  shock operation in a very nice flyer full color and so.
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  You know, you know. You know what?
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  You know what might be an. This is just an idea that popped
• 1:10:50
  into my mind, but. What could be cool is if the the
• 1:10:53
  guys from Gold Back gave you like some gold backs that you
• 1:10:56
  could you know, staple on there or they wouldn't want you to
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  staple on. But you know, so you can say
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  here, here you go, here's a that idea may be employed and.
• 1:11:05
  Here's a gold direct contact with Alpine right now.
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  But I'm and I'm talking to other people right now.
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  So at any rate, that actually may be happening on the 9th.
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  Oh, interesting, interesting. Thank you, Pat.
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  It's always so awesome to talk with you and.
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  You know, I I hope that you're a fan favorite.
• 1:11:24
  Everybody who's joined us today I'm sure has benefited as much
• 1:11:28
  as I have. So thank you from everybody in
• 1:11:31
  the Ron space, all the basement dwellers, including me.
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  Thank you. Thank you, Ron, for having me
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  back. And I remember now red shirt
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  solidarity here Susie. I think this is going to
• 1:11:43
  continue on. You know, I think, you know,
• 1:11:45
  bald guy economics might come out of the red shirt next.
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  And that, you know, we'll coin shop Chris.
• 1:11:50
  If he ever comes on the channel, it'll be red shirts and Susie.
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  I mean, I hate to say it, but the numbers are not in your
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  favor, Susie. Poor Susie.
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  I'm going to let you fight. I'm going to let you fight that
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  battle, my friend. Yeah, I'm afraid, you know.
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  Yeah, That's funny. Thank you.
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  Yeah. My wife is, you know, you know,
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  she's actually a black belt in three different disciplines.
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  So I've kind of learned from her, you know, that be very
• 1:12:17
  careful how you tread. And so, Susie, I'm sorry for
• 1:12:20
  anything. I just said it, particularly if
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  you're into martial arts. But I I will say one more time,
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  the gold bear and the platinum bear are going to start getting
• 1:12:28
  chilly in the mornings here in Missouri.
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  So they didn't need a red shirt, is all I'm saying.
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  Yeah, well, that. You know what?
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  There's a reason why I'm in the basement, You know, That's all I
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  can say. Okay.
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  Gotcha. Well, I'll tell you what.
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  Yeah, I'm in a basement too right now.
• 1:12:44
  And Susie, we're going to, you know, politically, we're, you
• 1:12:47
  know, a big group here and we might have to start some kind
• 1:12:49
  of, you know, petition or even a demonstration to save the red
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  shirt, you know? That's right.
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  Save the red shirt. We'll see you soon, Pat.
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  Thank you. You care, Ron.
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  God bless you. Thank you.