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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome back to the Deep Dive. You know, today we are tackling this contradiction
- 0:12that has been driving me a little crazy.
- 0:14Oh, yeah. What's that? You open the news, you read the global headlines,
- 0:18and it's all doom and gloom about commercial real estate.
- 0:20You see these headlines like the office is dead. Malls are empty.
- 0:25The remote work revolution has killed the CBD. It's definitely the dominant
- 0:30narrative right now, isn't it?
- 0:31Especially if you're looking at data from, say, the U.S. or parts of Europe. Exactly.
- 0:36But then I try to book a meeting room in the CBD on a Tuesday,
- 0:40or I try to get a table for lunch at Raffle City on a Wednesday,
- 0:44and it is absolute chaos. Right. It's packed.
- 0:47So which is it? Is the market crashing or is it booming?
- 0:51To figure this out, we are looking at the scorecard of, well,
- 0:54the biggest landlord in town.
- 0:56We are talking about Capitaline Integrated Commercial Trust, or CICT for short.
- 1:00And we aren't just looking at stock charts. We've got the full year 2025 financial
- 1:05results, which just came out February 6, 2026.
- 1:08We have the presentation slides, the press release, the works.
- 1:12Our mission is to strip away all the corporate gloss and just figure out if
- 1:15you're an investor, is this a money printing machine or is it a value trap?
- 1:19And CICT is the perfect lens for this. I mean, they're a bellwether.
- 1:22They own Plaza Singapura, Bugis Junction, Raffles City, IMM.
- 1:27If the Singapore economy has a pulse, CICT fuels it first. OK,
- 1:31so let's dive right in. I want to start with the bottom line.
- 1:34If I held CICT stock or units technically through 2025, did I make money?
- 1:40Because at the end of the day, that's what we're all here for. You did.
- 1:43And honestly, probably better than many expected, especially with the whole
- 1:47interest rate environment.
- 1:48The key metric here is DPU. That's distribution per unit.
- 1:52Think of it as the dividend that lands in your pocket. For the full year 2025,
- 1:56that payout was 11.58 cents.
- 1:58Which is up. What? It's up 6.4% year on year. Okay.
- 2:016.4%. In a vacuum, that sounds decent, but is it impressive? I think so.
- 2:06You have to remember, context is everything here. Inflation has been sticky.
- 2:11Interest rates were high for most of the year.
- 2:13For a real estate investment trust, a REIT, to grow its payout by over 6% in that environment.
- 2:20That's actually some heavy lifting. I see. But the real story is the momentum.
- 2:24How so? If you split the year in half, the second half of 2025 was a sprinter.
- 2:30The DPU for just those last six months jumped 9.4% compared to the same period the year before.
- 2:37So they finished the year accelerating. Exactly.
- 2:40That's interesting because usually companies start warning about headwinds towards
- 2:43the end of the year. But here's what I don't get. I'm looking at the revenue numbers here.
- 2:47Gross revenue was up 2.1%. Right. And net property income, which is basically rent minus expenses.
- 2:52That was up 3.1 percent. Yep. So if the income from the buildings only went
- 2:56up 3 percent, how on earth are they paying investors six or even 9 percent more?
- 3:01The math, I mean, it doesn't seem to add up unless they're selling the furniture.
- 3:05Well, they aren't selling the furniture, but they are trading up the houses.
- 3:08This is the key takeaway for this whole deep dive, the aha moment,
- 3:13if you will. It's called portfolio reconstitution.
- 3:16Which sounds like corporate speak for shuffling things around.
- 3:19It is, but it's very strategic shuffling.
- 3:22The reason the payout grew so much faster than the revenue is because they aggressively
- 3:26sold some lower yielding older assets and then used that cash to buy higher
- 3:32yielding trophy assets. They swapped slow money for fast money. Exactly.
- 3:37Okay, let's break down the swaps. What went out the door?
- 3:39The big headline was the sale of their stake in Bukit Panjang Plaza in January 2026.
- 3:46They sold 90 straddle lots for S-428 million dollars.
- 3:51Bukit Panjang Plaza, right. That's a classic suburban heartland mall.
- 3:55Very stable. You know, people go there for groceries and tuition centers,
- 3:58but maybe not the glitziest thing in the portfolio.
- 4:00Precisely. But look at the exit price. They sold it at a 10% premium to its latest valuation.
- 4:04And even more importantly, that price is nearly triple, 165% higher than what
- 4:09they paid for it back in 2007.
- 4:11Wow, that is a serious home run. Nearly 20 years of collecting rent,
- 4:16and then you sell it for more than double what you paid. That's the power of Singapore real estate.
- 4:21But, you know, holding it forever isn't always the right move.
- 4:24They took that cash, plus proceeds from selling 21 Collier Quay back in late
- 4:292024. and they went shopping for crown jewels.
- 4:32I see two big buys here. They bought the rest of Capita Spring.
- 4:35That's the one with the Sky Garden and Raffles Place, right?
- 4:38Correct. They now own 100% of it.
- 4:40And they also bought a 50% stake in Ion Orchard.
- 4:43Okay, so they traded a suburban mall for the most iconic mall on Orchard Road
- 4:47and a futuristic CBD office tower.
- 4:51That's it. They moved from the outskirts to the absolute core.
- 4:54These new assets have higher rental potential.
- 4:57And crucially, they have tax transparency benefits that boost that final DPU number.
- 5:03That's how you get a 9% payout jump on 3% revenue growth. It's a bit of financial
- 5:07engineering backed by much better quality real estate.
- 5:10So it's like trading in your reliable, you know, 2007 family sedan.
- 5:13Served you well, got you where you needed to go. But you trade it in,
- 5:17add a little cash, and buy a high-performance sports car that somehow also gets better gas mileage.
- 5:22That is a perfect analogy. You are upgrading the engine of the entire portfolio.
- 5:27Okay, so that explains the financial wizardry. But let's talk about the actual
- 5:31tenants. You mentioned earlier that the office is dead narrative is global.
- 5:36Is CICT immune to that or are these fancy new buildings actually empty inside?
- 5:42Well, the data says they're full. Let's look at rent reversion.
- 5:45This is my favorite metric for gauging who has the power, the landlord or the tenant.
- 5:49Right. Define that for us quickly. Rent reversion just compares the rent of
- 5:52a lease that expired versus the rent of the new lease signed for that exact same space.
- 5:57If it's positive, the landlord is jacking up prices. And if it's negative,
- 6:01the landlord is desperate.
- 6:02Exactly. That poor CICT. For their retail malls, positive 6.6%. Wow.
- 6:07So retailers are paying 6.6% more just to be there. That shows a lot of confidence
- 6:12in consumer spending. It does. And for their offices.
- 6:14Also positive 6.6%. Wait, hold on. The office rent reversion matches the malls. That is shocking.
- 6:20I thought companies were downsizing, cutting costs, going fully remote.
- 6:24Not in CICT's portfolio.
- 6:26Their office occupancy is 95.7%.
- 6:30For context, I mean, anything over 90% is considered healthy.
- 6:3395% is effectively full. So the office apocalypse, it just missed Singapore.
- 6:39I think Singapore is an outlier. We have a very, very strong return to office
- 6:43culture compared to, say, New York or London.
- 6:46But there's another factor at play here. Okay. The flight to quality. Okay.
- 6:52Companies might be taking slightly less space, but they want better space.
- 6:55They want the green building, the one near the MRT, the one with the gym and the nice lobby.
- 6:59And CICT owns those buildings. They own those buildings. Because if you're going
- 7:02to drag your employees back to the office, it had better be a nice office.
- 7:05That makes sense. And the supply of new prime office space in the CBD is just
- 7:09so limited. So landlords can dictate terms.
- 7:11You want a view of Marina Bay, you pay the price. And what about on the mall side?
- 7:16Even stronger occupancy, 98.7%. And shopper traffic surged nearly 15% year-on-year.
- 7:2315% more footfall. That's not just a recovery. That's a crowd.
- 7:27It is. Though I will add a little bit of nuance here.
- 7:30Tenant sales. So the actual money being rung up at the registers only grew 1.2%.
- 7:36So lots of people looking, but spending is growing much, much slower.
- 7:40That's a big gap between traffic and sales. Correct. It's the window shopping
- 7:44effect or maybe the experience effect.
- 7:46People are out. They're eating. They're walking around to enjoy the air conditioning.
- 7:50But with inflation, they might be slightly tighter with the big ticket purchases.
- 7:54But for a landlord, does that even matter? Well, as long as the footfall is
- 7:57there, the tenants will pay the rent. They need the eyes on the product.
- 8:01If the mall was empty, rents would crash. If the mall is packed but sales are
- 8:05flat, the landlord still has the leverage.
- 8:07Now, we've been praising the Singapore portfolio, but CICT isn't 100% Singapore.
- 8:12They have exposure in Germany and Australia. And I'm looking at the valuation
- 8:16reports here, and it is a sea of red ink for the overseas stuff.
- 8:21What is going on there? This is the reality check.
- 8:23While Singapore is the engine, the overseas trailer has a bit of a flat tire.
- 8:28They recorded fair value losses in both Germany and Australia.
- 8:31Is this bad management or just bad markets? It's mostly bad markets.
- 8:35I mean, take Australia. They have assets in North Sydney.
- 8:39The vacancy rate for the entire North Sydney market is over 25%.
- 8:44One in four offices is empty. That's a ghost town. It is really tough down there.
- 8:49So CICT-specific buildings, like 100 Arthur Street, are fighting that headwind.
- 8:55Even if their building is doing okay, the valuers, they look at the whole neighborhood.
- 8:59They see high vacancy, higher cap rates, and they cut the value of the building on paper.
- 9:04And Germania. Germany is a bit more specific. They own a building called Galileo in Frankfurt.
- 9:09The good news is it was empty for a major renovation, but that's done now.
- 9:13And the European Central Bank, the ECB, has taken the keys as the anchor tenant.
- 9:18Okay, having the central bank as your tenant is about as safe as it gets.
- 9:22It is. They aren't going to bounce a check. It's as blue chip as you can get.
- 9:25So the cash flow in Germany should start to fix itself in 2026.
- 9:28But the valuation hit still hurts the balance sheet on paper right now.
- 9:32So if I'm a listener holding this stock, should I be worried that Australia
- 9:35is going to drag the whole ship down? You have to look at the weighting.
- 9:3895% of CICT's portfolio value is in Singapore. 95%. Yes.
- 9:46Germany and Australia combined are barely 5%.
- 9:50To go back to your car analogy, it's like having a small scratch on the bumper of that Ferrari.
- 9:55It's annoying. You wish it wasn't there. You might have to pay to buff it out.
- 9:59But the car still drives at 200 miles per hour. Exactly.
- 10:02The Singapore engine is just too big to be derailed by what's happening in North
- 10:05Sydney. That's a relief.
- 10:07Now let's look under the hood at that engine then. Debt. We've just had this
- 10:11period of high interest rates.
- 10:12Usually REITs get crushed when rates are up because they borrow so much money. Right.
- 10:16How is CICT surviving? They aren't just surviving. They're showing off a bit.
- 10:19Their average cost of debt is 3.2%. 3.2%. I know people with mortgages higher than that. Exactly.
- 10:25And remarkably, that cost actually went down 0.1% from the previous quarter.
- 10:31How do you lower your interest rate when global rates are flat or high?
- 10:34You have an A credit rating from S&P that lets you borrow cheaper than almost anyone else.
- 10:40They've also managed their debt profile very, very actively.
- 10:44Their aggregate leverage is 38.6%. Is that high or low? The legal limit in Singapore is 50 percent.
- 10:51Most cautious REITs try to stay under 40 percent.
- 10:54So at 38.6 percent, they're right in that Goldilocks zone.
- 10:58They aren't hoarding cash, but they aren't over leveraged either.
- 11:01Which I assume means they have dry powder.
- 11:04If another ion orchard comes up for sale, they could actually buy it.
- 11:06They absolutely have the debt headroom to make another billion dollar move if they wanted to.
- 11:10They're not in defense mode. They are positioned for offense.
- 11:14And speaking of offense and billion dollar moves, let's talk about 2026 and
- 11:17beyond. They just announced a new project that.
- 11:21Well, it seems like a pivot. Hougang Central. Yes, this is fascinating.
- 11:24In January 2026, they won a tender to develop a site in Hougang.
- 11:29It's mixed use, commercial and residential.
- 11:32CICT is taking the commercial piece. Wait a second. We just spent 10 minutes
- 11:35talking about how they sold a suburban mall bukit panjang to buy downtown assets like Ion.
- 11:42Now they're building a new suburban mall in Hougang. Is that a U-turn?
- 11:45It looks like one, doesn't it? But think about the decentralization strategy
- 11:48in Singapore. The government wants to create these business hubs outside the city.
- 11:53Hoogang is a major transport node. So they're betting that the heartlands aren't
- 11:58dead. They just need to be more modern.
- 12:01Exactly. They sold an old suburban mall to build a state-of-the-art one.
- 12:04It's also a development project, which carries more risk, but a much higher
- 12:08potential profit than just buying an existing building.
- 12:11The estimated cost for their slice is S1.1 billion dollars. That is a massive
- 12:17check to write. It is. It shows confidence.
- 12:20It tells us two things. One, they aren't just landlords anymore.
- 12:23They're also developers.
- 12:24And two, they believe prime suburban locations will continue to thrive as major hubs.
- 12:29It makes sense. I mean, you look at malls like Junction 8 or Tampines Mall.
- 12:33They are absolute cash cows. They are packed seven days a week.
- 12:36Building a modern version of that in Hugeng seems like a pretty smart play.
- 12:40I agree. And they aren't neglecting their existing assets either.
- 12:43They have ongoing asset enhancement initiatives or AEIs at IMM,
- 12:47Tampines Mall. and they're finalizing things at Galileo.
- 12:50They're constantly polishing the portfolio to keep rents up.
- 12:53So what about the risks? We've painted a pretty rosy picture here.
- 12:56Rent's up, DPU up, new buildings on the way. What could go wrong in 2026?
- 13:01The macro economy is the big one. Singapore's GDP is forecast to grow nicely,
- 13:06around 4% for 2025, and looking solid into 2026.
- 13:10But costs are rising, utilities, manpower, marketing...
- 13:14Inflation hits landlords too. But with 6.6% rent reversion, they're just passing
- 13:19those costs on to tenants, right?
- 13:21For now, yes. The risk is if the economy turns.
- 13:23If tenants stop making money, they stop accepting 6% rent hikes.
- 13:27That pricing power works until it doesn't. If the economy slows down,
- 13:31tenants start to push back. And of course, there's foreign exchange.
- 13:33Right. If the Aussie dollar or the euro crashes, that small 5% overseas slice
- 13:38hurts a little more when you have to convert it back to Singapore dollars.
- 13:42Okay, so let's wrap this up. We have a landlord that has successfully navigated
- 13:46the high interest rate era.
- 13:47They gave investors a 6.4% pay raise. They're effectively full-on occupancy.
- 13:53And they're swapping old buildings for trophy assets. It's a very,
- 13:56very strong report card.
- 13:58They are proving that in Singapore, at least, physical real estate is still
- 14:01king. But I want to leave you with a thought, a provocative thought to mull over.
- 14:06Go for it. We watched them sell a bread-and-butter mall in Bukit Panjang to
- 14:10buy luxury in Orchard and the CBD.
- 14:13Now, historically, bread and butter is recession-proof. People always need groceries. Mm-hmm.
- 14:18Luxury is cyclical. That's the danger zone. By tainting the portfolio so heavily
- 14:23toward the glossy, high-end global
- 14:25city assets, is CICT making itself more vulnerable to a global recession?
- 14:30They're trading stability for a higher yield. Right. So if the rich global travelers
- 14:34stop coming to Orchard Road, does that 98% occupancy actually hold up?
- 14:38It's the classic risk-reward trade-off.
- 14:41They're betting big on Singapore continuing to be a magnet for global wealth.
- 14:46If that magnet loses its pull,
- 14:49Well, the fall is much harder from the top of Cap and Spring than it is from
- 14:52a grocery store in Bukit Panjang.
- 14:54A calculated risk. It's a calculated
- 14:56risk, but it's one that investors definitely need to be aware of.
- 14:59Something to chew on before you buy. Thanks for joining us on the Deep Dive.
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