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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Friday, the fifth of September twenty twenty five, just
- 0:12Speaker 2: out to one o'clock. Welcome UK CON News. I'm your host,
- 0:14Speaker 2: Mike Robinson. My host today is Brian Gerrish once again
- 0:17Speaker 2: this week. This is amazing Brian.
- 0:19Speaker 3: It's a delight and a pleasure to be here.
- 0:21Speaker 4: Mike.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Joining us via live link is Mark Anderson from the
- 0:25Speaker 2: United States. Later in the program, Mark's going to be
- 0:28Speaker 2: reporting on the litters from the Global Parliament of Mayors
- 0:31Speaker 2: and I'm going to be taking a look at the
- 0:32Speaker 2: expansion of AI driven surveillance in the UK and globally.
- 0:36Speaker 2: But we'll begin today with well Tony Radikin are x
- 0:42Speaker 2: i X Chief of the Defense Staff?
- 0:44Speaker 1: What man? This is correct?
- 0:46Speaker 3: And I suppose I should apologize to the audience because
- 0:50Speaker 3: it's a bit like putting Tony Blair up on the screen.
- 0:52Speaker 3: But of course this is the man of the moment.
- 0:54Speaker 3: I just wanted to recap the BBC's now grabbing him
- 0:58Speaker 3: because he's out to the job and we want to
- 1:02Speaker 3: do some analysis on his comments. But first of all,
- 1:04Speaker 3: this is telegraph od I think this is twenty twenty
- 1:07Speaker 3: one where it says Tony bradikin the state school educated boy.
- 1:12Speaker 3: That's an appropriate word from Oldham, who has quote changed
- 1:15Speaker 3: how the Navy works. Now we've already covered this in
- 1:19Speaker 3: other UK column news editions, and that is that, of
- 1:23Speaker 3: course the rn suffering absolutely critical breakdown, shortage of ships,
- 1:29Speaker 3: and the ships that have got many of them can't
- 1:31Speaker 3: go to sea. And yet that this man is being
- 1:35Speaker 3: praised and fated as effectively the man who's been running
- 1:38Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine single handedly in his very clean
- 1:42Speaker 3: combat gear.
- 1:43Speaker 2: So he changed how the Navy works by making it
- 1:45Speaker 2: not work anymore.
- 1:46Speaker 3: That is how it appears to me, or at least
- 1:49Speaker 3: if we say, well, it wasn't all his fault that
- 1:51Speaker 3: the Navy wasn't working. When he was in the most
- 1:54Speaker 3: powerful position, did he focus on the Navy and getting
- 1:57Speaker 3: it working? Absolutely not, Because he's been parading on the
- 2:01Speaker 3: international stage in his combat gear, supposedly making out that
- 2:06Speaker 3: he knows how to run a war on the scale
- 2:09Speaker 3: that's going on in Ukraine.
- 2:11Speaker 1: What did he do to get those medals?
- 2:12Speaker 3: Brian I note, well, I do know he's been in
- 2:16Speaker 3: a job where he's been interfacing with the right people,
- 2:18Speaker 3: and the courses widely rumored that his friendship with Boris
- 2:22Speaker 3: Johnson helped him actually get into the senior post itself.
- 2:27Speaker 3: So I'm going to say in the right place, at
- 2:29Speaker 3: the right time, and then you get the medals because
- 2:32Speaker 3: clearly he's never put his life on the line in
- 2:35Speaker 3: a combat zone.
- 2:36Speaker 1: So we didn't get them from the charity shop.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Possibly, possibly, let's have a look at this short interview
- 2:43Speaker 3: with the BBC, and we're going to make quite a
- 2:45Speaker 3: long comment on it.
- 2:48Speaker 5: This war has been a disaster for Russia. Putin wanted
- 2:51Speaker 5: less NATO, He's got more NATO. We've grown from thirty
- 2:54Speaker 5: nations to thirty teen nations. Putin originally thought that he
- 2:59Speaker 5: was subjugating Ukraine in days, if not weeks. That's clearly
- 3:03Speaker 5: not the case. It's a facile description, but it's a
- 3:09Speaker 5: really important one. If a snail had left Rostov on
- 3:13Speaker 5: Don in Russia on the twenty fourth of February twenty
- 3:16Speaker 5: twenty two, by now it would have crossed all the
- 3:20Speaker 5: way through Ukraine and it will be halfway through Poland.
- 3:24Speaker 5: That's how difficult Russia is finding it just to get
- 3:29Speaker 5: those four roblasts. If Russia carries on at the pace
- 3:32Speaker 5: that it currently is, it will take it four point
- 3:35Speaker 5: four years to get the remaining territory in those four roblasts,
- 3:40Speaker 5: and having lost a million people killed and wounded, it
- 3:43Speaker 5: will lose a further two million people killed and wounded.
- 3:47Speaker 5: So this is about Ukraine's bravery, Ukraine's courage, our support
- 3:52Speaker 5: to Ukraine to keep them in the fight.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I find this absolutely shocking, Mike, this man is puerile.
- 4:02Speaker 3: He's also not giving the public the truth. Maybe he
- 4:05Speaker 3: doesn't know, but essentially these little stories we've shown previous
- 4:10Speaker 3: video clips of him playing with colored pencils and maps
- 4:14Speaker 3: on the wall. Apparently this gets him very excited to
- 4:18Speaker 3: do with the trade routes around the globe, and now
- 4:22Speaker 3: he's talking about snails. This man is not in the
- 4:25Speaker 3: real world. So let's just pop a little bit of
- 4:27Speaker 3: hard comment up on screen, because this is where he
- 4:31Speaker 3: started off with in the interview. This war has been
- 4:34Speaker 3: a disaster from Russia. Putin wanted less NATO. He has
- 4:39Speaker 3: got more NATO. Well, of course, the reality is somewhat different.
- 4:44Speaker 3: We've got NATO that's a complete broken mess at the moment.
- 4:48Speaker 3: So the UK and the EU component are begging for
- 4:52Speaker 3: continued US support and commitment because the truth has always
- 4:55Speaker 3: been that without the Americans there's no effective NATO, and
- 5:01Speaker 3: this is freely available. This fact is freely available if
- 5:05Speaker 3: you look at comment in the UK and the American
- 5:08Speaker 3: and the Western press. So this is pure propaganda. The's
- 5:11Speaker 3: pointing out that he's starting with. But let's have a
- 5:14Speaker 3: look in a bit more detail at key points, and
- 5:18Speaker 3: as I've just said, there's quite a few of these,
- 5:20Speaker 3: but I think it's worth going through in some detail.
- 5:23Speaker 3: So at no stage did Russia declare or plan for
- 5:27Speaker 3: an invasion, a full invasion of Ukraine with a view
- 5:30Speaker 3: to occupy in the whole country in days or weeks.
- 5:33Speaker 3: This is a comment that's been made by the West,
- 5:36Speaker 3: which Radikan is repeating. There is absolutely no substance for it,
- 5:40Speaker 3: and of course basic evidence is that the size of
- 5:43Speaker 3: Ukraine indicates that this was never the case. So if
- 5:47Speaker 3: we just put that one across, Mike, thank you. Ukraine
- 5:50Speaker 3: is a vast land mass, average size, depending what source
- 5:54Speaker 3: you go to, six hundred and three thousand square kilometers,
- 6:00Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty two, Russia simply did not have
- 6:03Speaker 3: the troops to fully invade Ukraine. So it's nonsense to
- 6:08Speaker 3: state this, and the Russians didn't.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 6:13Speaker 3: In contrast, the Russians did state and actually enact the
- 6:16Speaker 3: objective of military intervention into Ukraine to demonstrate its intent
- 6:21Speaker 3: to counter Ukraine attacks on Russian speaking people in the Dombas,
- 6:25Speaker 3: and the continued NATO plans to integrate Ukraine into NATO itself.
- 6:31Speaker 3: And of course it was Boris Johnson who was one
- 6:33Speaker 3: of the key figures that disrupted the peace discussions in
- 6:39Speaker 3: Istanbul in order to make sure that this war continued.
- 6:44Speaker 3: So of course Rudikan doesn't want to tell the public
- 6:46Speaker 3: about any of these things. If we go on, Russia
- 6:50Speaker 3: has successfully mobilized what was a small defensive western army,
- 6:55Speaker 3: because of course, remember that Russia has to deal with
- 6:58Speaker 3: its western borders and its eastern borders. That army two hundred,
- 7:02Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty thousand now increased to what many
- 7:06Speaker 3: believers around eight hundred thousand. It's done all this while
- 7:10Speaker 3: fighting the war in Ukraine, which is not against the Ukrainians,
- 7:14Speaker 3: because of course it's a war that's backed fully by
- 7:17Speaker 3: the US, the EU, NATO, etc. This is a tremendous
- 7:22Speaker 3: achievement in its own right, and if we go on
- 7:25Speaker 3: through this, we've got that Russia has already defeated too
- 7:30Speaker 3: Western trained and equipped Ukrainian armies and defeated a major
- 7:36Speaker 3: Western backed Ukrainian offensive. This is all factual information that
- 7:42Speaker 3: I'm giving you, and for people who do their own research,
- 7:45Speaker 3: you will be able to find this quite easily. Much
- 7:48Speaker 3: of it has been reported in Western press and UK
- 7:51Speaker 3: press itself, but of course much of it hidden in
- 7:54Speaker 3: plain sight. We'll also say that Russia has taken control
- 7:58Speaker 3: of twenty percent of Ukraine. That equates to about one
- 8:02Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen thousand of one hundred and fourteen five
- 8:07Speaker 3: hundred thousand square kilometers, and that equates to fifty percent
- 8:13Speaker 3: of the total land area of uk Plus they're gaining
- 8:16Speaker 3: ground every day, so this is on a vast, vast scale.
- 8:20Speaker 3: The West hasn't seen warfare like this really since the
- 8:24Speaker 3: Second World War, possibly the Korean War, but what the
- 8:29Speaker 3: Russians have been doing on the ground is truly remarkable. Now,
- 8:33Speaker 3: we will go on to say that Russia's continue to
- 8:36Speaker 3: outproduce the Ukraine, US, UK, EU and NATO in shells, bombs, missiles,
- 8:42Speaker 3: and other musician munitions. Baby Pardon and the claims that
- 8:48Speaker 3: were made, including I believe by Radikin himself that Russia
- 8:52Speaker 3: was going to run shorter of munitions. This never materialized
- 8:56Speaker 3: because basically they were untrue. And then we've got the
- 9:01Speaker 3: technology that the Russians are employing on the battlefield, So
- 9:05Speaker 3: we've got new missile systems, including hypersonic missiles, and the
- 9:10Speaker 3: West has no defense against these missiles whatsoever. And of course,
- 9:16Speaker 3: the failings of the UK, the West, and indeed the
- 9:20Speaker 3: US military system to develop these systems themselves and the
- 9:25Speaker 3: countermeasures means that there's a lot of absolutely false threats
- 9:30Speaker 3: coming out of the West because they cannot deal with
- 9:33Speaker 3: the technology that Russia is operating with on the ground. Now,
- 9:38Speaker 3: if we come on a slightly different area of weapons
- 9:42Speaker 3: systems themselves, Russia at the moment is using high numbers
- 9:49Speaker 3: of highly accurate aviation dropped heavy glide bombs. That's up
- 9:53Speaker 3: to three thousand kilograms worth of bombs being used in
- 9:57Speaker 3: vast numbers, and these weapons are be used to successfully
- 10:01Speaker 3: destroy the Ukrainian front line. So Ukrainian troops are being
- 10:06Speaker 3: killed by blast in their bunkers or underground command shelters.
- 10:11Speaker 3: They have no defense against what's being used against them.
- 10:15Speaker 3: And if they assemble troops in numbers. The Russians are
- 10:18Speaker 3: taking out those true assembly points with either missiles or
- 10:23Speaker 3: these very heavy bombs. So this is the reality which
- 10:26Speaker 3: is very different from what Radikin is trying to tell us.
- 10:29Speaker 3: And if we add to that, of course, Russia has
- 10:32Speaker 3: developed highly accurate drones for not only wide battlefield surveillance
- 10:38Speaker 3: but also coordinated strategic attacks across Ukraine, both Eastern Ukraine
- 10:45Speaker 3: and Western Ukraine.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And again the.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Majority of these attacks absolutely getting through Ukrainians largely Western
- 10:53Speaker 3: provided missile defenses. So failure on the ground at every
- 10:59Speaker 3: stage direct contrasts to these wild and puerile claims that
- 11:04Speaker 3: Radikin has been making. And in addition, we can go
- 11:08Speaker 3: on because Russia has developed the ability to completely restructure
- 11:13Speaker 3: its approached warfare in a battlefield which is totally dominated
- 11:19Speaker 3: by surveillance, not only by long range surveillance by the
- 11:22Speaker 3: US and the UK in particular, but also satellite surveillance
- 11:28Speaker 3: and then local surveillance by drones on the ground. Despite
- 11:32Speaker 3: all of this, which makes it very difficult for even
- 11:35Speaker 3: individual soldiers or small groups of soldiers to move, Russia
- 11:40Speaker 3: has still been moving forward. And we've got to recognize
- 11:45Speaker 3: that there has been an impressive use of command and
- 11:48Speaker 3: control and coordination. That's the C three between the Russian
- 11:53Speaker 3: troops on the ground plus information from drones. And this
- 11:57Speaker 3: has been backed by heavy weapons support, which does include
- 12:01Speaker 3: long range of artillery, but it also includes the glide
- 12:04Speaker 3: bombs and tactical missiles. This is a new form of
- 12:07Speaker 3: warfare that Russia has been dragged into, and at the
- 12:11Speaker 3: moment Russia is clearly demonstrating that they can fight this
- 12:15Speaker 3: type of warfare and win not only against Ukraine but
- 12:19Speaker 3: also NATO itself.
- 12:20Speaker 2: I not, as you've said on there, this is new warfare.
- 12:24Speaker 2: But we were told by Radigan, by his predecessor Nikartera,
- 12:28Speaker 2: and people around the Joint chiefs that new warfare was
- 12:33Speaker 2: going to be all about cyber and spears.
- 12:35Speaker 1: This is a complete misreading of the reality, a.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Complete misreading, Mike. And of course, the thing is now
- 12:43Speaker 3: that the Russians have many, many thousands of extremely highly
- 12:48Speaker 3: trained and experience. These are hardened battlefield troops in this
- 12:53Speaker 3: type of warfare. So the idea that the West has
- 12:56Speaker 3: the ability to step in and fight the Russians is
- 12:59Speaker 3: actually law fooble at the moment. So where do we
- 13:02Speaker 3: go from this? Let's move on through because Russia's ability
- 13:08Speaker 3: to win on the battlefield has also been completely unaffected
- 13:12Speaker 3: by the hyped Western wonder weapons which we had. So
- 13:16Speaker 3: we had the Abrahams challenger in Leopard tanks, Bradley infantry
- 13:21Speaker 3: fighting vehicles, these very expensive units millions of dollars each.
- 13:28Speaker 3: These have been destroyed in huge numbers by very cheap
- 13:31Speaker 3: Russian attack drones, and of course the F sixteens, which
- 13:35Speaker 3: we heard week after week after week, we're going to
- 13:38Speaker 3: change the whole battle. These barely got into the air
- 13:41Speaker 3: before they were destroyed the few that did fly, and
- 13:46Speaker 3: others were destroyed on the ground. So huge propaganda from
- 13:50Speaker 3: the West and.
- 13:50Speaker 1: The readA that was going to happen.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Absolutely I did, like, yeah, so let's have a look
- 13:57Speaker 3: at this. Russia has demonstrated really capable battlefield command and control.
- 14:03Speaker 3: And the other thing it's done is showing the ability
- 14:07Speaker 3: to give troops in platoon concentrations maybe ten men, the
- 14:14Speaker 3: ability to call in fire support not only for aviation
- 14:18Speaker 3: units but also from these long range missile defense systems.
- 14:23Speaker 3: This again is a unique change on the battlefield that
- 14:26Speaker 3: you're giving trust for individual soldiers or groups of soldiers
- 14:30Speaker 3: that they are going to use these very impressive weapons
- 14:33Speaker 3: systems from long range to do the job, maybe even
- 14:37Speaker 3: a few hundred meters in front of them. Now, at
- 14:40Speaker 3: the same time, we've been seeing more reports that the
- 14:43Speaker 3: Ukrainians have been uneasy at the advice being given by
- 14:49Speaker 3: what's clearly on the ground US UK weapons teams. There
- 14:54Speaker 3: have been a number of reports, certainly in Ukrainian press
- 14:58Speaker 3: Kiev independent posts for example, showing that the Ukrainians have
- 15:03Speaker 3: had less and less trust in the ability of the
- 15:06Speaker 3: West to advise on the war. And if we go
- 15:10Speaker 3: on through this is where it gets really serious, because
- 15:14Speaker 3: of course the West greatly underestimated Russia's ability to absorb
- 15:19Speaker 3: battlefield casualties. If you're dealing it up to thirty million
- 15:24Speaker 3: military and civilian casualties for Russia in the Second World War,
- 15:27Speaker 3: Russia knows how to play with battlefield casualties. The US
- 15:33Speaker 3: still frightened of its fifty eight thousand people killed in
- 15:37Speaker 3: Vietnam and that Radikan in the West simply dare not
- 15:40Speaker 3: talk about the Ukrainian casualties. Now on that subject, we've
- 15:46Speaker 3: got Radikan talking about a million plus casualties on the
- 15:50Speaker 3: Russian side. BBC Media Zoner if we choose that report
- 15:55Speaker 3: is talking about two hundred and twenty thousand Russian dead
- 15:58Speaker 3: to August twenty twenty five, but all of them measured.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Battlefield analysis demonstrates that Ukrainian casualties are two to three
- 16:06Speaker 3: times this figure, with an even higher proportion of injured
- 16:10Speaker 3: due to these weapons systems that the Russians are using,
- 16:13Speaker 3: which I've just described. So if we get to the
- 16:16Speaker 3: end of this, basically we've got the US and EU
- 16:20Speaker 3: sanctions on Russia as a strategic weapon, those have failed,
- 16:25Speaker 3: and we've also got the bizarre situation that through this war,
- 16:29Speaker 3: the EU has continued to take Russian oil. And the
- 16:33Speaker 3: statistics here that I've chosen to bring up is that
- 16:36Speaker 3: Russian earned some two hundred and thirty three billion from
- 16:40Speaker 3: fuel exports to the European Union in the three years
- 16:43Speaker 3: from the invasion until early twenty twenty five. And the
- 16:47Speaker 3: Guardian itself reports from February that from February twenty twenty
- 16:52Speaker 3: four to February twenty twenty five, EU imports of Russian
- 16:55Speaker 3: ornant gas were valued at twenty point twenty one point
- 16:59Speaker 3: nine billion euros. So rank hypocrisy that they are doing
- 17:05Speaker 3: something to actually sanction Russia. Well, we've got the European
- 17:12Speaker 3: Union still feeding off these supplies. So I'll end the
- 17:16Speaker 3: statement by saying that essentially just hypocrisy. What this man
- 17:21Speaker 3: is talking about Ukraine's bravery and courage, we are supporting
- 17:26Speaker 3: them to keep the fight going. The reality is this
- 17:29Speaker 3: is a proxy war which is going to be fought
- 17:31Speaker 3: to the last Ukrainian and radical and his colleagues are
- 17:36Speaker 3: never going to put themselves in harm's way. So I've
- 17:40Speaker 3: been quite hard on this man, and I think it's appropriate.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Shortly before he retired, he was here speaking on the
- 17:46Speaker 3: streets in Kiev and saying what a job he was
- 17:50Speaker 3: doing effectively for peace. But we know it's not going well.
- 17:54Speaker 3: And even on the American side advance here that he's
- 17:59Speaker 3: talking about pretty strange, strained relationships with the Ukrainians. So
- 18:05Speaker 3: overall like utter lies coming out of the UK government
- 18:09Speaker 3: and the Ministry of Defense. And if we take an
- 18:12Speaker 3: objective view of the war in Ukraine at the moment,
- 18:16Speaker 3: is no doubt that Russia has the upper hand, which
- 18:20Speaker 3: is why of course they don't want the fighting to stop.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Well, to follow on from that, then on Wednesday, our
- 18:28Speaker 2: illustrious Secretary of State for War John Hilly was in
- 18:31Speaker 2: Kiev once again, and during his visit he announced that
- 18:36Speaker 2: money raised from immobilized Russian assets, sorry he said, riised,
- 18:41Speaker 2: I say stolen, but that's beside the point, has paid
- 18:44Speaker 2: for more than one billion pounds worth of weapons and
- 18:47Speaker 2: military support purchased by the UK on behalf of Ukraine,
- 18:51Speaker 2: which has enabled, his words, enabled the delivery of hundreds
- 18:55Speaker 2: of thousands of rhynds of artillery ammunition, hundreds of air
- 18:58Speaker 2: defense missiles, spare part and news support contracts to help
- 19:01Speaker 2: maintain and repair its equipment and vehicles. Now it should
- 19:07Speaker 2: be pointed out, though that this came in the form
- 19:09Speaker 2: of a loan, of course, and so the question is
- 19:13Speaker 2: how does Ukraine expect to ever pay that back? But
- 19:16Speaker 2: in other words, based on what he's just said, he
- 19:20Speaker 2: has enabled keeping the body bags full. He also co
- 19:25Speaker 2: chaired a coalition of the Willing Virtual Meeting alongside Starmer
- 19:29Speaker 2: and quotes representatives from more than thirty countries to cement
- 19:33Speaker 2: further military contributions to a multinational force to be deployed
- 19:38Speaker 2: in Ukraine in the event of a peace deal. And
- 19:40Speaker 2: he told the virtual Meeting that the UK is reviewing
- 19:44Speaker 2: readiness levels of UK armed forces and accelerating funding to
- 19:48Speaker 2: be ready for any UK deployment to Ukraine. Ministers, he said,
- 19:53Speaker 2: are also discussing the composition of a multinational force as
- 19:56Speaker 2: well as a tactical detail relating how to to how
- 20:00Speaker 2: the deployment would be strengthened across the seas, skies and land.
- 20:05Speaker 2: We're going to have gear for that, and I'm not
- 20:07Speaker 2: sure that we do. But at the Coalition of the
- 20:11Speaker 2: Willing meeting, French President Macron said, we the Europeans are
- 20:15Speaker 2: ready to give security guarantees to Ukraine and Ukrainians on
- 20:18Speaker 2: the day when peace is signed, prepared to work is over.
- 20:22Speaker 2: And yet at the same time, a French official briefing
- 20:26Speaker 2: reporters declined to say which countries were ready to contribute
- 20:30Speaker 2: to Ukraine's security guarantees, including to the so called reassurance Force.
- 20:36Speaker 2: So the question is, I wonder what the Russian attitude
- 20:40Speaker 2: is to this. BBC stepped in here because they spoke
- 20:44Speaker 2: to Dmitri Peskov and that was on their website today.
- 20:49Speaker 2: So let's just have a brief look at what Peskov
- 20:53Speaker 2: was having to say.
- 20:55Speaker 4: As far as we can understand, they're speaking about ensuring
- 20:59Speaker 4: secure urity guarantees for Ukraine by deploying European forces, European
- 21:05Speaker 4: regiments in Ukraine. Thus there returning back to the main
- 21:10Speaker 4: reason of the conflict. The main reason of the conflict
- 21:14Speaker 4: was the attempt of NATO to infiltrate into Ukraine, thus
- 21:18Speaker 4: endangering our country. So we consider it a danger for
- 21:22Speaker 4: US presence of international forces or any foreign forces or
- 21:27Speaker 4: NATO country forces on the soil of Ukraine next to
- 21:30Speaker 4: our borders. So in our understanding, it will not help
- 21:36Speaker 4: us get closer to the solution of Ukraine. Will do
- 21:40Speaker 4: whatever is necessary to ensure our security, preferably, would like
- 21:46Speaker 4: to reach our goals by diplomatic and peaceful means. When
- 21:52Speaker 4: we don't have these possibilities, will continue special military operation.
- 22:01Speaker 1: So that's pretty clear, Brian.
- 22:03Speaker 2: And you know, I think Pascov comes across as being
- 22:06Speaker 2: a very reasonable person. These coming across very calmly there,
- 22:10Speaker 2: despite Steve Rosenberg from the BBCs sometimes questioning, yeah.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well this is the reason that there is
- 22:18Speaker 3: there is reasonable dialogue going Trump himself saying that in
- 22:22Speaker 3: dialogue within Putin's very softly spoken and being reasonable. But
- 22:27Speaker 3: of course Western press now absolutely censored, so the public
- 22:33Speaker 3: never gets to see what the other side is talking about.
- 22:36Speaker 3: And I would suggest that if we did get to
- 22:38Speaker 3: see what the other side, the Russians, are talking about,
- 22:42Speaker 3: the public at least in this country, would quickly be
- 22:44Speaker 3: moving to the point where let's get the fighting stopped
- 22:48Speaker 3: and engage the talking. But at the moment, we've just
- 22:51Speaker 3: got more military hardware being piled in to keep this
- 22:55Speaker 3: proxy wall going.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Well, we'll come on to that in a second. Let's
- 22:57Speaker 2: just listen to one other comment from pass.
- 23:01Speaker 4: We see the readiness of the Russian Federation for dialogue.
- 23:05Speaker 4: We see the readiness of the President of the Russian
- 23:08Speaker 4: Federation for any meetings, including meetings on the highest level,
- 23:13Speaker 4: but in advance they should be well prepared. Also, we
- 23:18Speaker 4: see the very constructive efforts by the President of the
- 23:22Speaker 4: United States in order to assist in the process of
- 23:25Speaker 4: settlement around Ukraine. And we see the outrageous efforts of
- 23:30Speaker 4: European countries to provoke continuation.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Of the war. I can't disagree with anything you said there.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Neither can eye by because we're watching that provocation on
- 23:44Speaker 3: a daily basis, not only provocation but the weapons to
- 23:48Speaker 3: follow it up. So it's clear what the West is doing.
- 23:52Speaker 3: And no wonder that Trump's got wobbly at the moment
- 23:55Speaker 3: because I think he's finally realizing that the European Union
- 23:59Speaker 3: is not his friend.
- 24:00Speaker 2: So let's just look at the last fifty days of
- 24:03Speaker 2: support to Ukraine. This is, according to the UK government,
- 24:07Speaker 2: four point seven million runs of small arms ammunition for
- 24:10Speaker 2: Ukrainian soldiers, sixty thousand artillery shells, rockets and missiles, two
- 24:15Speaker 2: five hundred drones, more than two hundred electronic warfare systems.
- 24:20Speaker 2: I wonder how long any of this is going to last.
- 24:22Speaker 2: One hundred light weapons what's a light weapon in this
- 24:25Speaker 2: context machine gun? Okay, thirty vehicles, additional kind of drone
- 24:30Speaker 2: and air defense equipment. So that was what the Ministry
- 24:33Speaker 2: Defense was bragging that they'd sent in the last fifty days.
- 24:37Speaker 3: So if it was sent in the last fifty days,
- 24:40Speaker 3: it's probably all gone in the last fifty days.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Yes.
- 24:45Speaker 2: So anyway, that was Wednesday, then yesterday following the announcement
- 24:51Speaker 2: last week of the deal for Norway to buy naval
- 24:55Speaker 2: ships from the UK. Try not to laugh when I
- 24:59Speaker 2: say that Secretary of State for War John Healey again
- 25:03Speaker 2: was in Norway yesterday to sign an historic agreement to
- 25:07Speaker 2: exchange the strategic part sorry to enhance the strategic partnership
- 25:10Speaker 2: between UK and Norway. So this Dale actually formalizes the
- 25:15Speaker 2: deal for the ships. They claim strengthens netto in the
- 25:20Speaker 2: region and provides more opportunities for joint training and personnel
- 25:24Speaker 2: exchanges between Britain and Norway. And he claims that this
- 25:28Speaker 2: is going to support four thousand jobs and be worth
- 25:30Speaker 2: ten billion pounds to the UK. Now, he and his
- 25:34Speaker 2: Norwegian counterpart discussed further joint operations through this agreement, so
- 25:40Speaker 2: we'll see what comes of that. At the same time,
- 25:43Speaker 2: then here is Starmer because he was visiting BAE Scottston
- 25:49Speaker 2: to say thank you to all those who helped get
- 25:53Speaker 2: the what he describes as huge contract pushed through. So
- 25:56Speaker 2: there he was with some frigates. Do you think they'll
- 26:01Speaker 2: operate in cold waters like the waters if the propellers
- 26:06Speaker 2: or the screws that's the Navy would call them go round,
- 26:09Speaker 2: which they often don't in the type forty fives, but
- 26:12Speaker 2: hopefully they will be able to propel themselves in cold
- 26:15Speaker 2: water as well. Okay, and then just to finish this segment,
- 26:18Speaker 2: I just want to highlight this article from the Daily
- 26:22Speaker 2: Telegraph following the reporting from Wednesday on the situation in
- 26:26Speaker 2: China and the commemoration of the end of the Japanese
- 26:31Speaker 2: defeat at the end of the war, and the various
- 26:34Speaker 2: showing off material that China was doing during that particular commemoration.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Here's the Daily Telegraph editorial team, and I think they
- 26:43Speaker 2: probably need to be taken away by men and white
- 26:45Speaker 2: coats because the headline here Britain must stand against She
- 26:49Speaker 2: Shein Ping's disturbing, disturbing vision of the future. And they say,
- 26:53Speaker 2: when mister she promises to build a community of common security,
- 26:57Speaker 2: what he means is that no country should have any lies,
- 27:00Speaker 2: leaving all but the strongest at China's mercy. And when
- 27:04Speaker 2: he stresses the sovereign equality of states, he means that
- 27:07Speaker 2: no one should interfere with the sovereign right of tyrants
- 27:10Speaker 2: the murder, torture and oppress their own peoples. No one
- 27:14Speaker 2: should doubt that the world re ordered by mister She
- 27:17Speaker 2: would be a bleak and pitiless place. This kind of
- 27:20Speaker 2: rhetoric coming from an organization that over the last few
- 27:25Speaker 2: decades has supported interventionist conflicts run by Britain in the
- 27:30Speaker 2: United states which have only brought disaster and misery to
- 27:33Speaker 2: the countries that they're imposed upon. So the Telegraph then
- 27:39Speaker 2: demands action against She's chilling dream. Does our government have
- 27:44Speaker 2: a view on this? One hopes that Britain would stand
- 27:46Speaker 2: with America and the Free world in opposing mister She's
- 27:49Speaker 2: disturbing visions if that's in our intention, and one day
- 27:53Speaker 2: a Prime minister should muster the courage to say so
- 27:55Speaker 2: that it would make little sense to lie China to
- 27:58Speaker 2: build our entire energy system or apply the electric cars
- 28:01Speaker 2: that just about all of us will drive. Well, that
- 28:04Speaker 2: may well be the case, that last point, but we've
- 28:08Speaker 2: got to always keep in mind that systematically our governments
- 28:12Speaker 2: in the West have destroyed our productive capability. This is
- 28:16Speaker 2: why Russia and China are so far ahead and productively
- 28:20Speaker 2: and economically. I think it's a shame that Russia and
- 28:24Speaker 2: China are having to spend money developing their own defense
- 28:29Speaker 2: firms when they could be doing, and they are doing
- 28:32Speaker 2: in many other areas, so many more positive things for humanity,
- 28:37Speaker 2: you know, on a broad scale. Of course, they're clearly
- 28:40Speaker 2: feeling threatened, and is anybody expecting them to respond any
- 28:45Speaker 2: other way?
- 28:46Speaker 3: Well, clearly the papers have stopped thinking, and papers that
- 28:51Speaker 3: are supposed to be the papers for comment, particularly on
- 28:55Speaker 3: matters overseas newspapers record, they just simply do not seem
- 29:00Speaker 3: to have the quality of journalists to comment on this properly.
- 29:03Speaker 3: If we look at the West, it seems to me
- 29:05Speaker 3: at the moment it's the United States that is the
- 29:09Speaker 3: country which is telling everybody what to do. And unless
- 29:12Speaker 3: it's done as the United States wants, we're all going
- 29:16Speaker 3: to be sanctioned. Didn't to loin or bullied? Didn't a loin?
- 29:21Speaker 1: Mark? Yeah?
- 29:22Speaker 3: Sorry, I was looking at Mark coming up, so he
- 29:24Speaker 3: might like to respond.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Mark, let me welcome you to the program. Bring us
- 29:28Speaker 1: up to date.
- 29:29Speaker 2: Then if we move to the United States now with
- 29:32Speaker 2: what Trump has been doing, because of course I've been
- 29:34Speaker 2: hearing quite a bit about the potential for deploying military
- 29:37Speaker 2: on the streets.
- 29:40Speaker 6: Indeed, good day you guys and UK Colum viewers have
- 29:45Speaker 6: been on a bit of a hiatus. It's great to
- 29:46Speaker 6: be back. And yes, over the years, living near the
- 29:51Speaker 6: border where I do, there have been troop deployments here
- 29:55Speaker 6: and there's always been this conflict. When is it proper
- 29:58Speaker 6: to use US troops in stic operations and when is
- 30:02Speaker 6: it not? And I remember talking to a Kansas soldier
- 30:05Speaker 6: out of Fort Riley and he was elated in his
- 30:08Speaker 6: view about five six, seven years ago. It was during
- 30:11Speaker 6: Trump's first term, to be clear, and he was elated
- 30:14Speaker 6: that he was actually being used to guard the US border.
- 30:17Speaker 6: Of all things, the troops were being used to guard
- 30:20Speaker 6: the US itself. What a concept, he told me. Anyway,
- 30:23Speaker 6: on this first slide, we're seeing some of the controversy.
- 30:27Speaker 6: Federal ruling could restrict Trump on potential San Francisco troop deployment.
- 30:33Speaker 6: Second to September out of the Axios News, and this
- 30:37Speaker 6: is in the wake of Trump having deployed National Guard
- 30:41Speaker 6: in Washington, d C. Now in Washington, d C. It's unique.
- 30:44Speaker 6: Trump is the head of the DC National Guard, the
- 30:48Speaker 6: DC being a federal city in that sense, So there
- 30:51Speaker 6: was that deployment there to deal with what Trump is
- 30:55Speaker 6: calling crime amid immigrations and customs enforcement. I see immigration
- 31:01Speaker 6: arrests toward deportation as part of Trump's border agenda. And
- 31:06Speaker 6: then Trump also had troops recently in Los Angeles, and
- 31:11Speaker 6: of course there's still a presence in those cities as
- 31:13Speaker 6: I understand it, and the main stated goal of Trump's deployments,
- 31:17Speaker 6: besides aiding in the eventual deportation process, has been to
- 31:22Speaker 6: guard federal property from what the administration is calling actual
- 31:26Speaker 6: and potential rioting as people protest the deportations. And at
- 31:32Speaker 6: any rate, we have a summary here on that Axios article.
- 31:36Speaker 6: I'll look at that the California Attorney General Rob Bonta
- 31:40Speaker 6: applauded a federal ruling that the Trump administration illegally deployed
- 31:45Speaker 6: the National Guard to LA during anti ice protests going
- 31:50Speaker 6: back to June. So there's been a court ruling what
- 31:53Speaker 6: Trump has done in LA is being declared illegal. Trump
- 31:56Speaker 6: is vowing to fight back, of course, and appeal the decision.
- 32:00Speaker 6: District Judge Charles Brier's ruling only applies to California, however,
- 32:04Speaker 6: but it may influence how federal troops are deployed in
- 32:07Speaker 6: other places as Trump considers doing more of this. And
- 32:11Speaker 6: those other places are potentially or actually San Francisco, Chicago,
- 32:16Speaker 6: and Baltimore. So Trump's going to appeal the LA decision.
- 32:20Speaker 6: What's he going to do about deployments and those cities
- 32:22Speaker 6: that are based on the same reasons. Here we'll show
- 32:25Speaker 6: some headlines that have been popping up lately on this.
- 32:28Speaker 6: The New York Times San Francisco had avoided trump'shire until now,
- 32:33Speaker 6: so the Times of saying that Trump's deployment to San Francisco,
- 32:38Speaker 6: Frisco they call it for short, is fairly imminent, and
- 32:41Speaker 6: the Chicago Tribune as Trump threatens more Guard troops in
- 32:44Speaker 6: US cities, including Chicago and Baltimore. Here's what the law allows,
- 32:49Speaker 6: and that could be quite a long thing. I studied
- 32:51Speaker 6: a little bit of what the law allows, but what
- 32:54Speaker 6: it boils down to is that right after the US
- 32:57Speaker 6: so called Civil War, they passed the possible a Commatatis Act,
- 33:01Speaker 6: and that forbade the use of federal troops in local
- 33:06Speaker 6: law enforcement. Because when there was the reconstruction by the
- 33:10Speaker 6: North against the South, there were a lot of abuses
- 33:13Speaker 6: of the people's constitutional rights, some very egregious abuses. So
- 33:19Speaker 6: the law, the Passe Comatatis Act that's Latin, is a
- 33:22Speaker 6: logical law, but it's a little bit fuzzy in legal
- 33:25Speaker 6: circles when it applies and when it doesn't. Many have
- 33:30Speaker 6: claimed that it's improper to use federal troops or or
- 33:33Speaker 6: activated federally activated National Guard troops. They've claimed they claim
- 33:37Speaker 6: it's improper to use them to guard the border, but
- 33:40Speaker 6: I would argue, and others I've talked to you have
- 33:42Speaker 6: argued that guarding the border is a national largely a
- 33:46Speaker 6: national responsibility, and they're oriented outward, they're guarding the perimeter,
- 33:51Speaker 6: so that in many people's view, does not violate the
- 33:54Speaker 6: Pase Comatatis Act. But these deployments in LA and DC
- 33:59Speaker 6: and others, if it doesn't violate that act, it's pushing
- 34:03Speaker 6: right up to the line, just very very close. Because
- 34:08Speaker 6: they say they're guarding federal property from the protesters, and
- 34:11Speaker 6: that's pretty much legitimate. But if they start making arrests
- 34:15Speaker 6: for miscellaneous things that would best be done by local
- 34:18Speaker 6: police officers, then you've got some issues that would violate
- 34:21Speaker 6: that act. And so the overall situation is such where
- 34:29Speaker 6: there's a lot to be seen, a lot remains to
- 34:31Speaker 6: be seen. But that's some of the realities on the
- 34:33Speaker 6: ground now. Under this report today, I'm doing Trump news
- 34:38Speaker 6: on three topics. It's an approach I'm taking because there's
- 34:42Speaker 6: so much coming out of the Trump White House in
- 34:44Speaker 6: the press releases that I get, which is four or
- 34:47Speaker 6: five or six a day, and all the other things
- 34:49Speaker 6: going on. There has to be a way to distill
- 34:51Speaker 6: this stuff down. So I've got a couple other quick
- 34:53Speaker 6: topics on this next one, we'll look at this headline
- 34:56Speaker 6: out of Fox US blocks Trump attempt to freeze more
- 35:01Speaker 6: than two billion in Harvard funds sub had Trump officials,
- 35:04Speaker 6: Judge said, are using anti semitism as a smoke screen
- 35:08Speaker 6: to block off a little over two billion actually in
- 35:11Speaker 6: federal funding to Harvard. What's going on there, essentially is
- 35:15Speaker 6: that Harvard believes it's hiring and admissions policies are being
- 35:21Speaker 6: infringed upon, and that it's improper for Trump to use
- 35:25Speaker 6: anti semitism as an excuse to cut these over two
- 35:30Speaker 6: billion in federal funding that funds scientific research at Harvard.
- 35:34Speaker 6: Now you could almost go for that point of view
- 35:36Speaker 6: one hundred percent, except for the fact that Harvard says
- 35:40Speaker 6: it's a one hundred percent or pretty much out largely
- 35:43Speaker 6: private university. But one of the things that makes a
- 35:47Speaker 6: university private is not accepting much, if any, federal funding.
- 35:51Speaker 6: Like Hillsdale College in south central Michigan takes no federal
- 35:55Speaker 6: funding whatsoever, so they can truly call themselves private. But Harvard,
- 35:59Speaker 6: being the wealthiest monetarily the wealthiest college in America wants
- 36:04Speaker 6: billions of dollars of federal funding every year, but it
- 36:08Speaker 6: wants all the advantages of being called a private university,
- 36:11Speaker 6: so it wants to have its cake and eat it too.
- 36:14Speaker 6: Trump claims that the besides anti Semitism and protests against
- 36:19Speaker 6: Israeli policies in Palestine, Trump claims that the university is
- 36:23Speaker 6: way too liberal and a lot of its governance and
- 36:28Speaker 6: a lot of its content and things like that, and
- 36:31Speaker 6: so he's using the cutting of the federal funds as leverage.
- 36:35Speaker 6: And so that's what's going on with that. I need
- 36:39Speaker 6: not get into a lot of the details that I
- 36:41Speaker 6: included in the slides there. It's better to explain it.
- 36:43Speaker 6: And lastly, this headline from American Free Press. President Trump
- 36:48Speaker 6: is pushing for a ban of mail in ballots. And
- 36:52Speaker 6: the interesting thing here is that with all the mail
- 36:55Speaker 6: in ballots from the twenty twenty election, when a contact
- 36:58Speaker 6: of mine, Garland Favrito, did factually prove that that election
- 37:03Speaker 6: had a lot of very serious anomalies and evidently election theft,
- 37:07Speaker 6: a lot of the reforms that Trump wants to enact
- 37:10Speaker 6: do make sense, although Trump sometimes expresses them in ways
- 37:14Speaker 6: that don't fully make sense. He needs to be more
- 37:17Speaker 6: clear and principled on these things. These are longtime problems
- 37:21Speaker 6: in the US electoral system. And here's a quote from
- 37:25Speaker 6: Trump from the White House. We're going to start with
- 37:28Speaker 6: an executive order that's being written right now by the
- 37:31Speaker 6: best lawyers in the country to end mail in ballots
- 37:33Speaker 6: because they're corrupt, at least in terms of the number
- 37:36Speaker 6: of them. When they're used in massive amounts, they do
- 37:40Speaker 6: invite corruption. And there's one other post from Trump's truth
- 37:44Speaker 6: Social He's also saying voter ID must be part of
- 37:48Speaker 6: every single vote to confirm who voters are and that
- 37:51Speaker 6: they're eligible. He's saying no exceptions. He's calling for an
- 37:54Speaker 6: executive order to that end. Again, no mail in ballot
- 37:57Speaker 6: or no mail in ballots, And was interesting, gentlemen, And
- 38:01Speaker 6: I'll conclude with this note. He's also calling for a
- 38:04Speaker 6: hard look at whether we should use those electronic voting
- 38:07Speaker 6: machines that have been rightly accused of counting the votes
- 38:12Speaker 6: in secret, even though ballots are cast in public. So
- 38:15Speaker 6: Trump is on the right track on that last one.
- 38:18Speaker 6: But he needs to be much more clear and resolute
- 38:20Speaker 6: on what his goals are and what the real problems
- 38:23Speaker 6: are on the other two items. It's a little murky
- 38:26Speaker 6: and a lot remains to be seen, but I'll be
- 38:28Speaker 6: following those in the weeks ahead, so be back. We'll
- 38:30Speaker 6: go back to you guys.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Mark, and we're going to come back onto
- 38:34Speaker 1: the issue of.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Ice a little bit later and undoubtedly we'll have a
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- 39:23Speaker 1: It's a great discussion. Brian.
- 39:26Speaker 3: I just want to remind people of this discussion that
- 39:29Speaker 3: I have with Patrick Kenninson about Stephanie Heggerty, BBC journalist
- 39:34Speaker 3: who did a short analysis, a little mini documentary into
- 39:39Speaker 3: very young children being shot by snipers in Gaza. This
- 39:44Speaker 3: is an important discussion between the two of us and
- 39:47Speaker 3: I'd like to encourage as many people as possible to
- 39:50Speaker 3: watch it.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Okay, another reminder of uk on location. Just about thirty
- 39:55Speaker 2: tickets left for this, so if you can possibly join
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- 40:00Speaker 2: five in York. Andrew Wakefield is speaking and this does
- 40:05Speaker 2: also we remind you give you access to his film
- 40:08Speaker 2: Protocol seven. Tess Laurie will be speaking, Liz Evans will
- 40:13Speaker 2: be speaking. Hopefully Liz will be back on UKK Gold
- 40:15Speaker 2: News in the imminent future. Sir Julian Rose will be
- 40:20Speaker 2: speaking particularly about the health implications of good food, and
- 40:25Speaker 2: Ben Rubin will be speaking as well. So join us
- 40:28Speaker 2: for this if you possibly can. If you can't join
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- 40:38Speaker 2: for that.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Brilliant I'd just like to give another shout out for
- 40:43Speaker 3: public child protection whales kin issue, Wood and a team
- 40:47Speaker 3: who at the end of this month will be going
- 40:49Speaker 3: to Washington to meet with other groups. To Washington in
- 40:53Speaker 3: the States to go to meet up with other groups.
- 40:56Speaker 3: We're going to be challenging the World Health organ Visations
- 41:01Speaker 3: CSE it's sexual grooming of very young children. So this
- 41:05Speaker 3: battle has now gone from South Wales, it's gone globally.
- 41:08Speaker 3: This is really fantastic news and I'd also like to
- 41:12Speaker 3: just give the audience heads up. Very shortly, I'll have
- 41:15Speaker 3: another interview out with a mum called Christine talking about
- 41:19Speaker 3: the failings in children's services. There's a lot more to
- 41:22Speaker 3: her story than we can cover in this first episode,
- 41:26Speaker 3: but nevertheless, I want to keep the subject of childs
- 41:29Speaker 3: stealing by the state in front of our audience. This
- 41:32Speaker 3: is a very very serious thing happening in UK.
- 41:36Speaker 4: Mark.
- 41:37Speaker 2: Let's come back to you then. And Global Parliament of
- 41:40Speaker 2: Baris has been one of the institutions that's driving change
- 41:44Speaker 2: in both the UK and the United States and most
- 41:46Speaker 2: European countries as well.
- 41:48Speaker 6: What's the litist, Well, this is interesting. Over the summer,
- 41:54Speaker 6: of course, we've had Bilderberg and I reported on the
- 41:56Speaker 6: Ditchley Foundation kind of a cousin of Trilabroom and a
- 42:00Speaker 6: cousin of Trilateral and Bildeberg excuse me, And there's so
- 42:04Speaker 6: many machinations going on. Weaponized neuroscience has been in the
- 42:07Speaker 6: news here on UKC recently, but I got to look
- 42:11Speaker 6: in at the Global Cities thing, and a quick announcement
- 42:14Speaker 6: before we get into the GPM Global Parliament of Mayors
- 42:17Speaker 6: is that the seminal annual conference, the Pritsker Global Cities
- 42:22Speaker 6: Forum in Chicago that started in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
- 42:25Speaker 6: and I was there right when it started, has been
- 42:28Speaker 6: apparently ended. I think it just didn't go as viral
- 42:34Speaker 6: as the former head of the Chicago Council and Global
- 42:36Speaker 6: Affairs that was pushing it, Evil Dolder, as he wanted,
- 42:40Speaker 6: and that has apparently died. When the Chatham House lady
- 42:45Speaker 6: who's leading the Chicago Council came over to replace Dalder.
- 42:48Speaker 6: As I've reported recently, there's no indication that she's continuing that.
- 42:52Speaker 6: So that's a little bit of good news, you might say,
- 42:54Speaker 6: given what we know about Global Cities now. On the
- 42:57Speaker 6: Global Parliament of Mayors here, they met earlier in the
- 43:00Speaker 6: summer and I discovered that as I was looking at
- 43:03Speaker 6: all these other groups and trying to kind of distill
- 43:05Speaker 6: all this and their annual sum At twenty twenty five,
- 43:09Speaker 6: Ricardo Rio, the Mayor of Braga, Portugal, was big in
- 43:13Speaker 6: the news. He's a major player here and we got
- 43:15Speaker 6: a couple quotes from him. There was a recognition by
- 43:20Speaker 6: the Global Parliament of Mayors about this gentleman's city. The
- 43:23Speaker 6: Global Parliament of Mayors or GPM recognizes the path that Braga,
- 43:27Speaker 6: Portugal has been forging via its internationalization strategy emphasis added.
- 43:33Speaker 6: Internationalization strategy positioning Braga as a open, collaborative city, and
- 43:41Speaker 6: that means in league with the global system, that engages
- 43:45Speaker 6: with global networks, of course, and promotes democracy big word, inclusion,
- 43:50Speaker 6: bigger word, and sustainable development massive concept, of course, and
- 43:56Speaker 6: that ties to the United Nations. United Nations turned eighty
- 43:59Speaker 6: this year, and then Mayor Ricardo Rio of Brago went
- 44:03Speaker 6: on to say, and he's a member of the executive
- 44:05Speaker 6: committee of the Global Parliament of Mayors. He went on
- 44:08Speaker 6: to say this, these developments reflect our commitment to position
- 44:13Speaker 6: Braga as an open and collaborative city emphasis added, one
- 44:17Speaker 6: that actively engages with global networks and actively promotes democracy, inclusion, etc.
- 44:25Speaker 6: So this is very clear language of what global cities
- 44:28Speaker 6: are all about. That they kind of divorce themselves to
- 44:33Speaker 6: a point from the nation state that they geographically inhabit,
- 44:37Speaker 6: and they link up with other self declared global cities
- 44:40Speaker 6: and they operate on a somewhat different legal and governance system.
- 44:45Speaker 6: So it's almost like a form of mutiny, if you will.
- 44:47Speaker 6: Maybe that's a strong concept, maybe a little too strong,
- 44:50Speaker 6: but they're kind of bowing out of their nation state
- 44:53Speaker 6: membership and adopting another kind of membership, localized globalism, also
- 44:58Speaker 6: called globalism. We've mentioned that. Now this also came out
- 45:01Speaker 6: as I was perusing this on a looks like an
- 45:06Speaker 6: x post here. Nadia Vergie noted that there's a global
- 45:12Speaker 6: or a Global Parliament of Mayor's related summit going on
- 45:16Speaker 6: the twenty seventh through the twenty ninth of October twenty
- 45:19Speaker 6: twenty five in Dubai that they're calling Expo City and
- 45:24Speaker 6: it's being it's involving the Asia Pacific Citi's Summit and
- 45:30Speaker 6: Mayor's Forum twenty twenty five bringing together cities from Asia, Africa,
- 45:34Speaker 6: the Middle East and beyond. And we have a little
- 45:36Speaker 6: bit more on this we'll move on from there, and
- 45:41Speaker 6: this is the actual website the Asia Pacific City Summit
- 45:44Speaker 6: at Mayor's Forum, that's the main element at this new
- 45:49Speaker 6: GPM involved or GPM tied Expo City Dubai event in
- 45:55Speaker 6: latter October, So just to get that in the news here,
- 45:58Speaker 6: to get that on the record to that events coming up.
- 46:02Speaker 6: We didn't have a lot of advanced notice about the
- 46:04Speaker 6: summer event by the Global Parliament of Mayor, so we
- 46:07Speaker 6: want to make sure we get plenty of advanced news
- 46:09Speaker 6: on this one, so we're all aware. Maybe we can
- 46:11Speaker 6: talk about it in York a little bit on the side.
- 46:13Speaker 6: But here's some of the other things they're talking about
- 46:16Speaker 6: with regards to that Dubai summit. This is just some
- 46:19Speaker 6: examples we'll show this and I'll just cherry pick it.
- 46:22Speaker 6: City leadership and economic development, city branding, and identity, city
- 46:27Speaker 6: diplomacy where cities set themselves up to have foreign policy
- 46:33Speaker 6: functions and act like that they can get into foreign
- 46:36Speaker 6: policy diplomacy, which is really illegitimate and improper for any
- 46:41Speaker 6: city to get into. And then digital transformation in urban futures,
- 46:45Speaker 6: they're looking at urban intelligence that no doubt involves AI
- 46:49Speaker 6: probably in some ill advised ways new energy mission driven ecosystems.
- 46:55Speaker 6: Some of this is clear, some of it's rather vague.
- 46:58Speaker 6: Maybe not all of it bad. Point by point, and
- 47:01Speaker 6: in this last item, this is just a reminder of
- 47:04Speaker 6: the Urban seven and the Urban seven. I do have
- 47:07Speaker 6: an article posted on UK column about the Urban seven
- 47:10Speaker 6: from a year or two ago, and that is the
- 47:13Speaker 6: city equivalent roughly of the G seven, showing how the
- 47:18Speaker 6: cities view themselves as members of a global community, not
- 47:22Speaker 6: so much members of their nation state. And the Urban seven,
- 47:26Speaker 6: at a meeting in Japan in July twenty twenty three,
- 47:29Speaker 6: was consulted in the drafting of the G seven Sustainable
- 47:33Speaker 6: Urban Development Ministers Communique, which lays out the priorities and
- 47:38Speaker 6: commitments of the ministers. So that definitely shows the concrete
- 47:42Speaker 6: and tangible involvement of these mayors, I think in an
- 47:46Speaker 6: ill advised and illegitimate way to get involved in these
- 47:48Speaker 6: global affairs. So that's kind of the landscape for now, guys,
- 47:52Speaker 6: and the schedule.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Thank you Mark Well sticking with cities in the sense,
- 47:58Speaker 2: and also Marcus Toy about surveillance and AI. Let's bring
- 48:03Speaker 2: this on screen. So this is from the all Sourts
- 48:07Speaker 2: Intelligence substock Exclusive Ice reactivated its two million dollar contract
- 48:13Speaker 2: with Israeli spyware firm Paragon following its acquisition by US Capital.
- 48:18Speaker 1: So this is the.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Immigration agency, the agency that's deporting people from the United
- 48:26Speaker 2: States at the moment, has begun once again using Paragon.
- 48:30Speaker 2: So they have, I mean, this has been described as
- 48:35Speaker 2: the most sophisticated hacking tool, and this is following the
- 48:39Speaker 2: Trump's decision to renew the contract.
- 48:42Speaker 1: We'll come on to that in a second. But this
- 48:44Speaker 1: is Paragon.
- 48:45Speaker 2: They produce a spyware product called Graphite, developed by Paragon Solutions,
- 48:51Speaker 2: which was established in twenty nineteen by a Hood well can.
- 48:57Speaker 1: You pronounce that name?
- 48:58Speaker 2: Sdrson, a formerer of Unit eighty two hundred, that's, of course,
- 49:03Speaker 2: Israel's elite military intelligence unit effectively in military equivalent of
- 49:08Speaker 2: the NSA or GCHQ, and also a founder is Thomas Barak,
- 49:13Speaker 2: who's also got associations with Israeli intelligence circles. So Graphite
- 49:18Speaker 2: is a military grade spyware tool capable of what are
- 49:22Speaker 2: described as zero click infections, capable of exfiltrating data from phones.
- 49:27Speaker 2: This mainly for mobile phones, also microphone and camera control
- 49:32Speaker 2: and also stealth operations on smartphones and this includes iPhones
- 49:36Speaker 2: and Android devices. Then began selling Graphite to US law
- 49:41Speaker 2: enforcement agencies in twenty twenty one, and I signed the
- 49:44Speaker 2: original contract with them in late twenty twenty four. At
- 49:48Speaker 2: the beginning of this year, then WhatsApp discovered a global
- 49:52Speaker 2: spyware campaign using Graphite that targeted ninety individuals, including journalists
- 49:56Speaker 2: and activists, in more than twenty countries. Not long after
- 50:00Speaker 2: that story broke, Citizen Lab confirmed that Paragon's Graphite was
- 50:04Speaker 2: also used in Italy against journalists there, leading to the
- 50:08Speaker 2: termination of the contract in Italy. So let's just put
- 50:13Speaker 2: that on screen. So this is Reuters reporting Italy and
- 50:16Speaker 2: is really Paragon part ways after spyware affair. So Graphits
- 50:23Speaker 2: design uses what are described as stealth tactics, loading themselves
- 50:28Speaker 2: itself into legitimate apps like WhatsApp to evade detection, making
- 50:35Speaker 2: forensic detections highly challenging and most almost impossible for the
- 50:40Speaker 2: average user to discover. It's easily installed in target phones
- 50:44Speaker 2: and on including the latest iPhones, and that is confirmed
- 50:48Speaker 2: in security weak if a headline here saying Paragon Graphit
- 50:52Speaker 2: spyware linked to zero click hacks on newest iPhones, which
- 50:57Speaker 2: should be no surprise because, as meant Press reported in July,
- 51:01Speaker 2: with the dozens of former Unit eity two hundred staff
- 51:05Speaker 2: now employed by Apple, and the question is to do
- 51:08Speaker 2: what are they in fact there as legitimate employees or
- 51:13Speaker 2: are they there to perhaps you know, manufacture into future
- 51:19Speaker 2: Apple products. Plenty of attack vectors that allow this type
- 51:22Speaker 2: of software to operate, So I think this is this
- 51:25Speaker 2: is an important issue and something you know that we've
- 51:28Speaker 2: we've been talking about UNIIT eighty two hundred for quite
- 51:30Speaker 2: some time. We absolutely need to maintain focus on that
- 51:35Speaker 2: and its role in finding many of the tech companies
- 51:38Speaker 2: that we.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Rely on day to day.
- 51:41Speaker 2: And in the meantime, then social media yesterday was highlighting
- 51:47Speaker 2: the case of Bayon Maval Walla, the second, who is
- 51:54Speaker 2: a former Army sergeant US Army sergeant who served survived
- 51:58Speaker 2: a roadside bomb blast on a special operations mission in Afghanistan.
- 52:02Speaker 2: He's also son of a decorated US military intelligence officer.
- 52:06Speaker 2: He was arrested by the FBI in July and charged
- 52:10Speaker 2: with conspiracy to impede or injure officers following a scuffle
- 52:15Speaker 2: with a well an ICE officer who was completely masked
- 52:19Speaker 2: and not really identifiable as an ICE officer. At one
- 52:22Speaker 2: of the protests, Mark was talking about a couple of
- 52:24Speaker 2: minutes ago, so he was arrested. They protest itself took part,
- 52:30Speaker 2: that took place about a month before the actual arrest
- 52:33Speaker 2: took place. And now this is being described as many
- 52:36Speaker 2: as an escalation of the Trump regimes attacks on First Amendment. Right,
- 52:40Speaker 2: So we can talk about that in extra and I
- 52:44Speaker 2: just want to mention that in an effort to sort
- 52:47Speaker 2: of deal with the massive overreach of ICE agents apparent
- 52:51Speaker 2: massive overreach at the moment, an application for the iPhone
- 52:55Speaker 2: is being developed called ice Block, which allows people to
- 52:57Speaker 2: log settings of ICE activity and learned others to that activity.
- 53:02Speaker 2: Of course, it's not without limitations and flaws, but people
- 53:06Speaker 2: really should probably be asking what has happened to the
- 53:09Speaker 2: United States that this is even a thing any thoughts.
- 53:13Speaker 3: I think it's immensely dangerous. The first level is that
- 53:17Speaker 3: we've got one country. We've got Israel now burying itself
- 53:22Speaker 3: not only inside the government systems of other countries, the
- 53:26Speaker 3: US and the UK, but it's also buried itself inside
- 53:30Speaker 3: the intelligence and the security services, so absolutely unaccountable to nobody,
- 53:37Speaker 3: and now we're getting to the level of street arrests
- 53:41Speaker 3: based on these sorts of partnerships. What's very dangerous, I
- 53:45Speaker 3: think right.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Well, here in the UK, well, here's the Plymouth Herald,
- 53:49Speaker 2: because the civilian state rules out of pears. So the
- 53:51Speaker 2: Herald here has published a report highlighting the use of
- 53:54Speaker 2: AI parts to villance cameras and devon aquowall, which apparently
- 53:57Speaker 2: cost ten thousand drivers being very naughty. Indeed, the cameras
- 54:01Speaker 2: are supplied by this organization, acusensues. Now these systems can
- 54:07Speaker 2: capture images showing the inside of your car, including the driver,
- 54:10Speaker 2: passengers and children. And Acusensus claims that non infringing images,
- 54:16Speaker 2: so anything that hasn't captured wrongdoing, we can be rest
- 54:20Speaker 2: assured that these are deleted immediately and we believe that,
- 54:23Speaker 2: of course, and privacy safeguards like data encryption and limited
- 54:27Speaker 2: access are in place, is what they claim. Now another
- 54:31Speaker 2: AI camera system gaining traction in the UK is from
- 54:35Speaker 2: Flock and now these are also being rolled out in
- 54:38Speaker 2: the EU and in the United States as well. And
- 54:41Speaker 2: these are not just roadside cameras that searching for drivers
- 54:46Speaker 2: using mobile phones. These are being deployed in place of
- 54:49Speaker 2: standard c TV cameras all over the place. Now there's
- 54:53Speaker 2: a website that I want to draw your attention to
- 54:55Speaker 2: here called dflock. It's tracking the deployment of these cameras
- 55:00Speaker 2: worldwide and they provide an interactive map so you can
- 55:03Speaker 2: see exactly where they are now. There are huge numbers
- 55:06Speaker 2: in the UK can relative to the number of CCDV
- 55:08Speaker 2: cameras that we have in the country as yet, but
- 55:10Speaker 2: you can see there's broad usage right across the country
- 55:14Speaker 2: and actually the Midlands is probably the biggest user of
- 55:19Speaker 2: these cameras yet at this point. So you know, this
- 55:23Speaker 2: is a deployment that many people are unaware of and
- 55:29Speaker 2: so on. So you know, we've got to consider this
- 55:31Speaker 2: within the context of the whole AI agenda that the
- 55:34Speaker 2: UK government is pushing out at the moment, and in
- 55:37Speaker 2: order to encourage and exploit this kind of surveillance did
- 55:42Speaker 2: the British government has published a new AI Assurance roadmap
- 55:47Speaker 2: which they say will look to add billions of points
- 55:50Speaker 2: to the economy and create scores of new jobs, scores
- 55:53Speaker 2: of new jobs, so it's really worth the effort here.
- 55:55Speaker 2: But anyway, AI assurance is all about assuring you and
- 55:59Speaker 2: me that AI is to be trusted and that there's
- 56:02Speaker 2: nothing at all to worry about.
- 56:04Speaker 1: So the star.
- 56:05Speaker 2: War government is pushing millions of pounds of taxpayers money into,
- 56:09Speaker 2: for example, convening a UK consortium to work towards a
- 56:13Speaker 2: future AI assurance profession and establishing a new forum from
- 56:17Speaker 2: multi stakeholder collaboration.
- 56:19Speaker 1: These are their words.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Of course, this is going to be driven by the
- 56:23Speaker 2: AI Assurance Innovation Fund, which is going to get an
- 56:26Speaker 2: initial bang of eleven million pounds, with lots more cash
- 56:30Speaker 2: to come in the future, and they also announced the
- 56:32Speaker 2: government also announced the two point seven million pounds boost
- 56:35Speaker 2: to develop a regulator capability, which, as we know from
- 56:38Speaker 2: for example, from the MHRA, means an enabler capability. So
- 56:44Speaker 2: to sort of demonstrate that this is a unit party issue,
- 56:47Speaker 2: let's hear from a name that we possibly have tried
- 56:51Speaker 2: to forget, and that's Rishi Sunac.
- 56:54Speaker 7: Everyone's talking about the race to build AGI.
- 56:57Speaker 8: AGI artificial general in.
- 57:01Speaker 4: An AGI.
- 57:02Speaker 3: How close are we to IDI?
- 57:05Speaker 7: That matters, But it's not the only race we should
- 57:08Speaker 7: care about. The real prize is everyday AI.
- 57:11Speaker 4: We have given them brains, electronic brains.
- 57:14Speaker 1: It's truth.
- 57:14Speaker 9: The kind of computer to which you can give a
- 57:17Speaker 9: problem and then leave.
- 57:18Speaker 1: It to work out the answer all by itself.
- 57:20Speaker 7: The countries that win won't just be the ones with
- 57:22Speaker 7: the smartest AI, they'll be the ones adopting it fastest.
- 57:26Speaker 7: Think about the electric dynamo. It only transformed industry when
- 57:30Speaker 7: factories were redesigning around it, Or the Internet. It only
- 57:33Speaker 7: changed our lives when businesses shape their sales and supply
- 57:36Speaker 7: chains around it. AI is no different. If it's just
- 57:40Speaker 7: locked away in the IT department, we'll only see a
- 57:43Speaker 7: fraction of the benefits. We need business leaders and world.
- 57:46Speaker 1: Leaders trained to use it.
- 57:48Speaker 7: We need workers given the right skills now, not in
- 57:51Speaker 7: ten years, and we need public services ready to use it.
- 57:55Speaker 7: And that also means getting the regulation right, protecting against
- 57:58Speaker 7: real risks like i OWE or cyber threat without burying
- 58:02Speaker 7: people in rules that make using AI impossible. I'm working
- 58:05Speaker 7: with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University to map out
- 58:09Speaker 7: the practical steps the governments, businesses, and innovators can take
- 58:14Speaker 7: to win the race to everyday AI. And to do that,
- 58:17Speaker 7: I want your input in this early stage. Thousands have
- 58:20Speaker 7: already had their say, but if you haven't yet clicked
- 58:23Speaker 7: the link below to complete a short survey.
- 58:27Speaker 3: So he's a hoover serviceman, yes, door to door vacuum cleaners.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Anyway, let me just give you a very quick look
- 58:34Speaker 2: at this survey that you need to click below to do.
- 58:38Speaker 2: And as you can see there, you know, there's no
- 58:41Speaker 2: option in the first question to say no way, Jose,
- 58:44Speaker 2: I'm not having anything to do with this. You get
- 58:47Speaker 2: the opportion to say you haven't Tuesday in the last
- 58:49Speaker 2: thirty days, or maybe you're not sure in the same answer,
- 58:52Speaker 2: but you know it is pathetic. But the point here is,
- 58:56Speaker 2: you know, assuming anybody hasn't been physically ill to watch
- 59:00Speaker 2: that here we have a former prime minister absolutely shilling
- 59:05Speaker 2: for this industry.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Yeah, just to throw away comment from me, of course,
- 59:10Speaker 3: if you're a car driver, in your car you will
- 59:12Speaker 3: have a sumdvisor, use your sun visor. It makes a
- 59:16Speaker 3: big difference to what cameras can and cannot see.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Mark.
- 59:21Speaker 2: Just to conclude the program, back to you and what's
- 59:24Speaker 2: been going on in the United States with RFK Junior.
- 59:29Speaker 6: More controversy is the short answer, Mike. Yesterday, the Committee
- 59:33Speaker 6: on Finance yesterday morning, September four, held their President's twenty
- 59:39Speaker 6: twenty six Healthcare Agenda hearing, and who other than RFK
- 59:44Speaker 6: was the speaker? Who else could it be? And he
- 59:46Speaker 6: was grilled intensely, especially by Bernie Sanders, who's kind of
- 59:50Speaker 6: a grill master. You could put him in an apron
- 59:53Speaker 6: with his spatula and he would be the definite grill
- 59:56Speaker 6: master on the Senate side. ABC News headline, Real Quick,
- 59:59Speaker 6: RFK Junior testifies before the Finance Committee amid CDC turmoil
- 1:00:04Speaker 6: and vaccine changes. That's where the rub was and is.
- 1:00:08Speaker 6: And really we can just get right to the videos.
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: There's two. If you want to show both, that's fine.
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: One now, one extra depending on the time. But here's
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: Bernie Sanders in the first video, and we can discuss
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: it after that.
- 1:00:23Speaker 8: Secretary Kennedy, President Trump and the medical community, right or
- 1:00:28Speaker 8: do you still believe that the COVID vaccine was quote
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: the deadliest vaccine ever made. Oh?
- 1:00:34Speaker 9: I know, first of all, I didn't say that. I
- 1:00:36Speaker 9: said that in terms of airs reports a while ago.
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: I've said today I think that President Trump should get
- 1:00:45Speaker 9: the Nobel Brod.
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: So who's right?
- 1:00:46Speaker 6: Is Trump?
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: Is the medical community writer?
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: Are you right?
- 1:00:49Speaker 9: President Trump? An extraordinary piece of leadership is.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: He right or wrong?
- 1:00:55Speaker 8: Did COVID say millions of lives?
- 1:00:58Speaker 9: As I said, he got Americans back to work at
- 1:01:01Speaker 9: that time, that particular vaccine, which perfectly imagined the virus
- 1:01:04Speaker 9: that was circulating that and I have no idea how
- 1:01:08Speaker 9: many lives it say, but it saved quite a few.
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: A lot of odd statements there. We can talk about
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: it more an extra, but Kennedy definitely stammering and kind
- 1:01:21Speaker 6: of waffling there, not unlike his inaugural comments when he
- 1:01:26Speaker 6: was first nominated, and then Sanders saying, you know, how
- 1:01:30Speaker 6: many did COVID save? Kind of he's kind of misspeaking.
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: He meant to say COVID vaccine. So you've got one
- 1:01:37Speaker 6: that's for the vaccine, which is pretty troubling, that being Sanders.
- 1:01:41Speaker 6: And then you've got Kennedy not being clear about his
- 1:01:44Speaker 6: stance and even trying to say that the vaccine initially
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: was a success. One that's highly questionable, if not outright falls.
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: So then we have the other video. If you'd like
- 1:01:54Speaker 6: to show up, Mike, we can proceed from there.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Well, well, look, Mark, if you don't mind, let's push
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: out an extra. I actually want to draw some parallels
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: here with what RFK has just said, and maybe something
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: that's going on in the in the Kingdom around Jeremy Corman,
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: because it's it's quite interesting how when people are pushed
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: into a position that they where they feel like they
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: need to say something that they don't really believe, it
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: gets very tricky for them very quickly.
- 1:02:22Speaker 6: Indeed, Yeah, he does look like he's he's giving a
- 1:02:27Speaker 6: confession or saying something that he doesn't fundamentally believe. You
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: can see the conflict in his body language. But that's fine, Mike.
- 1:02:33Speaker 6: We'll go with what you said obviously, and so we're good.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark Okay and Brian. Just a couple of
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- 1:04:08Speaker 7: M h m hmmm mm hmmmmmmmm