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Banned Media Report: Plandemic · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 2: Thet Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your
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  Speaker 3: We're a team now, we're a couple, all of us.
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  Speaker 2: So with that in mind, I guess I can dispose
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  Speaker 2: of the usual chit chat that usually kicks off these episodes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to ask anyone how they're doing. I
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  Speaker 2: would ask you how you're doing, but you can't answer me.
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  Speaker 2: But answer me anyway. I'll feel it. It hurts a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, so only answer once. As for today's topic,
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  Speaker 2: we are doing another banned media report, this time about
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  Speaker 2: the Plandemic video. What is Plandemic? It is a twenty
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  Speaker 2: six minute conspiracy video that first surfaced online on May fourth,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty. It's produced by filmmaker slash independent journalist Mickey
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  Speaker 2: Willis and his California based production company called Elevate. It
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  Speaker 2: was first presented as being a trailer for an upcoming
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  Speaker 2: full length documentary, but that documentary has yet to surface.
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  Speaker 2: And that is an insane length for a trailer. Can
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  Speaker 2: you imagine being at a movie theater? Remember those and
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  Speaker 2: a twenty six minute trailer plays before the movie you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to see better be the only goddamn trailer.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 2: But this video is mostly just a really long interview
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  Speaker 2: with a disgrace scientists named Judy Mikeowitz. And the interview
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  Speaker 2: was conducted by Mickey Willis. You might remember him as
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  Speaker 2: the guy who went viral get it because we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about coronavirus a few years back when he posted a
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  Speaker 2: video of his son after he had decided to buy
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  Speaker 2: a Little Mermaid doll and his dad. Mickey Willis posted
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  Speaker 2: this on YouTube and gloated about it like it made
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  Speaker 2: him the goddamn father of the century.
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  Speaker 4: I let my boys choose their life. That's how That's
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  Speaker 4: how mamma and I you know, that's how.
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  Speaker 3: We are, right.
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  Speaker 4: We just say whatever, yeah, you say, yeah, choose it.
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  Speaker 2: Remember that guy, he's the guy who made the plandemic video.
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  Speaker 2: This video racked up millions of views really quickly before
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  Speaker 2: being removed by Facebook, YouTube, Vimeo, and Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Almost as quickly.
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  Speaker 2: It stayed up in excerpts for way longer on everyone's
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  Speaker 2: favorite news social media menace, TikTok. This was to me
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  Speaker 2: one of the most impressive information suppression efforts I have
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, especially on Google. For a while there it
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  Speaker 2: was almost impossible to find it by Googling it, which
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  Speaker 2: is kind of insane given what Google is supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be for. But I tried, and what I got was
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  Speaker 2: pages and pages and pages of articles about the Plandemic movie,
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  Speaker 2: but very few, if any that led to actually being
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  Speaker 2: able to see it. Even now, the only way I
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  Speaker 2: found it is because a site called watch Uncensored dot
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  Speaker 2: com took out an ad that links to it. How
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  Speaker 2: is that for integrity? Google won't show you the link
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  Speaker 2: for free on account of how dangerous it is, but
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  Speaker 2: they will take money from a site that wants to
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  Speaker 2: make it the top result when you search for it.
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  Speaker 2: What a shocking betrayal of the massive amounts of trust
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  Speaker 2: I have in Google as a company. Now, I've been
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  Speaker 2: pretty clear about my problems with social media takedowns like this,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not any more enthusiastic about it in the
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  Speaker 2: case of this video. That doesn't mean I believe or
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  Speaker 2: agree with the content of the video. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that in a second, but I do think these efforts
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  Speaker 2: to suppress content like this, and especially the subsequent media
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  Speaker 2: coverage of those efforts, is dangerous and counterproductive. I've shared
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  Speaker 2: my feelings on that a lot of times on this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: where I won't go into detail again now, but the
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  Speaker 2: pandemic video does represent a concern about this practice that
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  Speaker 2: I actually haven't discussed much, and that is the Streisand effect.
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  Speaker 2: We're all familiar with that right. In two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 2: Barbara Streisand sued to have a picture of her home
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  Speaker 2: removed from the Internet. The ensuing media coverage of that
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  Speaker 2: lawsuit made everyone want to see that picture of her house,
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  Speaker 2: which naturally led to it getting posted all over the
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  Speaker 2: damn Internet in far too many places for teams Streisan
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  Speaker 2: to take it down everywhere. So her efforts backfired in
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  Speaker 2: the worst way possible. And that's what these social media
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  Speaker 2: bans mostly accomplish, and it was no different with plandemic.
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  Speaker 2: Remember I mentioned that I found it on a Google
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  Speaker 2: ad for a site called watchncensored dot com. Well, here's
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  Speaker 2: the text that was underneath that link. See videos removed
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  Speaker 2: by social media view resources, donate online and in case
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  Speaker 2: you're wondering, the main text just said watch the plandemic movie.
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  Speaker 2: There's a name for sites like that now. They're called
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  Speaker 2: alt tech sites, and their entire business model is posting
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  Speaker 2: videos that have been removed by social media sites, So
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  Speaker 2: moments like this are a goddamn gold mine for them.
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  Speaker 2: According to a CBC article that I'll link to on
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  Speaker 2: on pops dot com, one of those sites, bitshoot, returns
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  Speaker 2: one thousand, seven hundred and seventy results for the search
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  Speaker 2: term playdemic, and the top result is a reposting of
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  Speaker 2: the video that's been viewed one point six million times.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot. If this podcast gets downloaded one point
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  Speaker 2: six million times, I'd probably take the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: year off and just roll around in anchor ad money
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  Speaker 2: until January. At least, bit shoot had twenty million unique
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  Speaker 2: visitors in April. At least, that's what they claimed in
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  Speaker 2: a sense deleted tweet. But bands like this do not
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  Speaker 2: do what the people who endorse them think they do.
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  Speaker 2: They don't stop the videos from spreading. Instead, they just
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  Speaker 2: promote that spread to other sites. One argument I've heard
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  Speaker 2: as well. At least they won't stumble across it by
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  Speaker 2: way of the YouTube algorithm.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you.
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  Speaker 2: If you're worried about the videos YouTube is feeding people,
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  Speaker 2: wait until you get a load of bitshoot. It's like
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  Speaker 2: banning hunting rifles at Walmart and sending people to gun
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  Speaker 2: stores to get them instead. At least at Walmart, they
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to impulse by an AR fifteen A register.
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  Speaker 2: Gun stores offer no such promise. Because of one video,
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  Speaker 2: You're chasing people from YouTube to a site that is
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  Speaker 2: nothing but those videos. And when the people who actually
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  Speaker 2: believe what this video is saying get there, it just
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  Speaker 2: reinforces their belief that this is the real truth that
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  Speaker 2: the powers that be don't want you to see. And
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  Speaker 2: that's a special kind of shame in this case, because
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  Speaker 2: this video is bullshit, and the two key figures in
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  Speaker 2: that video, Judy Mikovitz and Mickey Willis, have for all
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  Speaker 2: intents and purposes, admitted that this is my absolute least
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  Speaker 2: kind of conspiracy, the kind that claims it just wants
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  Speaker 2: you to decide for yourself. But then it just presents
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  Speaker 2: one side of the argument. That's some disingenuous nonsense. If
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  Speaker 2: you want people to decide for themselves, you tell them
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  Speaker 2: all the information. If you want to make a one
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  Speaker 2: sided propaganda piece, you do what plandemic does. Mickey Willis
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  Speaker 2: has even sense hold this video propaganda. I'd encourage everyone
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  Speaker 2: to read the La Times interview with Mickey Willis from
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  Speaker 2: May thirteenth, twenty twenty, that came out shortly after this
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  Speaker 2: video started circulating. Here's a quote from him in that
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  Speaker 2: interview that I found really interesting. I did do my
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  Speaker 2: best to reach out to people to say, she's making
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  Speaker 2: some claims here, and can you validate this? And the
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  Speaker 2: ones that they couldn't validate, or at least were left
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  Speaker 2: with that could be true, but science hasn't proven it yet.
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  Speaker 2: I left it in because I figured perhaps this starts
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  Speaker 2: the conversation that does actually get to the bottom of
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  Speaker 2: this point. Okay, so you got that right. He's saying
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  Speaker 2: he did reach out to some doctors about the claims
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  Speaker 2: made in this video, and when he was told they
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  Speaker 2: were untrue or not proven by science, he just left
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  Speaker 2: them in, which begs the question why even reach out
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  Speaker 2: in the first place. And if that's not suspect enough.
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  Speaker 2: Here's another quote from a few paragraphs earlier in that
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  Speaker 2: same interview. We're working very hard right now to validate
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  Speaker 2: the majority of the claims that were made. Instead of
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  Speaker 2: just defending all of the haters that are out there,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just better to reach back out with
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  Speaker 2: some valid information Because of the delicacy and importance of
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  Speaker 2: the situation, I really wanted to talk with doctors on
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  Speaker 2: all sides first, not just the doctors that Judy recommends,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to seek out the ones who disagree
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  Speaker 2: and get them on the phone and find out why.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So, which is it.
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  Speaker 2: Did you talk to doctors before the video came out
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  Speaker 2: or are you going to get around to talking to
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  Speaker 2: doctors at some point in the future. That same La
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  Speaker 2: Times article does a really good job of covering this
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  Speaker 2: guy's questionable past, and I'd encourage you to read it,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you were swayed by this video. But he's
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  Speaker 2: also kind of a minor figure in this video. The
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  Speaker 2: real star is Judy Mikovitz. Here's a clip from the
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  Speaker 2: opening of the pandemic video.
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Judy Mikovitz has been called one of the most
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  Speaker 4: accomplished S scientist of her generation. Her nineteen ninety one
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  Speaker 4: doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV AIDS at the
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  Speaker 4: height of her career, doctor Michaelvitch published a blockbuster article
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  Speaker 4: in the journal Science. The controversial articles sent shockways through
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  Speaker 4: this scientific community as it revealed that the common use
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  Speaker 4: of animal and human fetal tissues were unleashing devastating plagues
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  Speaker 4: of chronic diseases.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's all you need to hear to know that
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  Speaker 2: something isn't right with this video. For starters, the line
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  Speaker 2: about Judy Mikovitz being called one of the most accomplished
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  Speaker 2: scientists of her generation. Fucking citation needed. No one calls
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  Speaker 2: her that, and if they do, it was probably Mickey
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  Speaker 2: Willis's wife, just so they could cover their bases. Then
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  Speaker 2: there's the next line, her nineteen ninety one doctoral thesis
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  Speaker 2: revolutionized the treatment of HIV and AIDS. Nope, it most
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  Speaker 2: certainly did not. She did write her nineteen ninety one
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  Speaker 2: thesis on that topic, but it had no discernible impact
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  Speaker 2: on the treatment of HIV and AIDS. And that's according
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  Speaker 2: to a medical journal that's literally called Science. They're actually
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  Speaker 2: very important to this story. But before we get to that,
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  Speaker 2: let's address that last claim from the opening of this video.
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  Speaker 2: At the height of her career, doctor Mikovitz published a
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  Speaker 2: blockbuster article in the journal Science. The controversial article sent
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  Speaker 2: shockwaves through the scientific community as it revealed that the
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  Speaker 2: common use of animal and human fetal tissues was unleashing
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  Speaker 2: devastating plagues of chronic diseases.
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  Speaker 3: That is just a straight up lie.
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  Speaker 2: The article claimed to show a link between chronic fatigue
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  Speaker 2: syndrome and a mouse retrovirus. That article, at least to me,
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  Speaker 2: is hugely important to this story.
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  Speaker 3: Why because a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Times when someone comes forward with what seems to be
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  Speaker 2: blockbuster information like this, the question believers always ask is
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  Speaker 2: why would they lie? That article and the scientific communities
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  Speaker 2: the reaction to it is her motivation to lie. It
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  Speaker 2: was published in two thousand and nine and it claimed
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  Speaker 2: that in a test of the blood of chronic fatigue
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  Speaker 2: syndrome sufferers, every single sample contained an infectious mouse derived
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  Speaker 2: retrovirus called XMRV. That apparently is indeed shocking news to
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  Speaker 2: the scientific community, and it did cause some ripple effects,
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  Speaker 2: and by that I mean one ripple effect, which was
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  Speaker 2: that lots of other scientists started trying to replicate the
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  Speaker 2: results of that study. There were actually nine different studies
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  Speaker 2: that tried to replicate these results. None were able to
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  Speaker 2: do it. That led Science the journal, to issue a
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  Speaker 2: retraction of the article in question. Judy Mikovitz refused to
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  Speaker 2: sign the retraction, but every other researcher who worked on
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  Speaker 2: the article did. Now that nine lab study was headed
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  Speaker 2: up by the Department of Health and Human Services. That's
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  Speaker 2: a government agency, so of course still allows for the
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  Speaker 2: possibility of a government cover up, except for one thing.
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  Speaker 2: There was one final study funded by the United States
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  Speaker 2: National Institute of Health and led by Ian Lupkin of
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  Speaker 2: Columbia University. Judy Mikowitz was part of this study. This
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  Speaker 2: was her conclusion at the end of that study. There
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  Speaker 2: is no evidence that xmrv is a human pathogen. So,
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  Speaker 2: right off the bat, this video is lying to you,
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  Speaker 2: and we are less than one minute in. Let's listen
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  Speaker 2: to another huge claim from the pandemic video.
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  Speaker 4: So you made a discovery that conflicted with the agreed
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  Speaker 4: upon narrative. Correct, and for that they did everything in
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  Speaker 4: their powers to destroy your life.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: You were arrested. Correct, and then that you were put
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  Speaker 4: under a gag order.
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  Speaker 5: For five years. If I went on social media, if
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  Speaker 5: I said anything at all, they would find new evidence
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  Speaker 5: and put me back in jail. And it was one
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  Speaker 5: of the few times I craw and it was because
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  Speaker 5: I knew there was no evidence the first time, and
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  Speaker 5: that when you can unleash that kind of force to
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  Speaker 5: force someone into bankruptcy with a perfect credit score, and
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  Speaker 5: so that I couldn't bring my ninety seven witnesses, which
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  Speaker 5: included the heads Tony Fauci, you know, Ian Livgan, the
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  Speaker 5: heads of the public health in HHS, who would have
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  Speaker 5: had to testify that we did absolutely nothing wrong.
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  Speaker 4: And so what did they charge you with?
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  Speaker 5: Nothing?
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  Speaker 4: But you were in jail.
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  Speaker 5: I was held in jail with no charges. I was
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  Speaker 5: called a fugitive from justice, no warrant, literally drug me
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  Speaker 5: out of the house. Our neighbors are looking at what's
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  Speaker 5: going on here.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: They searched my house without a warrant to literally terrorize
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  Speaker 5: my husband for five days. They said, if you don't
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  Speaker 5: find the notebooks, if you don't find the material which
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  Speaker 5: was not in my possession but planted in my.
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  Speaker 3: House, all right, all of that's that also incorrect.
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  Speaker 2: There was a warrant issued by the University of Nevada
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  Speaker 2: at Reno Police, the company she was working for at
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  Speaker 2: the time. The Whitmore Peterson Institute is located on the
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  Speaker 2: campus of the University of Nevada at Reno, So that's
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  Speaker 2: why college police took over this investigation and they did
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  Speaker 2: issue a warrant. That's a thing she has come out
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  Speaker 2: and admitted since this plandemic video started circulating that she
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  Speaker 2: just at the very least misrepresented the facts of what
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  Speaker 2: happened here. And I'm telling you, if you believe this video,
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  Speaker 2: you have to ask yourself why why would she lie?
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  Speaker 2: At the time this incident happened, the chief of campus police,
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  Speaker 2: Adam Garcia, told a reporter from Science Insider, which is
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  Speaker 2: related to the journal Science, that the warrant was related
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  Speaker 2: to a break in and theft reported to his department.
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  Speaker 2: Whitmore Peterson Institute alleged that Mikeowitz instruct did a research
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  Speaker 2: assistant who worked with her to take irreplaceable patient samples
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  Speaker 2: in laboratory notebooks, and that he followed those instructions. Now,
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  Speaker 2: in the video, she claims that the notebooks and computer
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  Speaker 2: data they found when they searched her home was planted.
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  Speaker 2: But also again, at the time all this happened, which
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  Speaker 2: was twenty eleven, her lawyer said this quote, she is
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  Speaker 2: entitled to a copy of the information she created, So
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  Speaker 2: clearly she felt she was entitled to something and she
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  Speaker 2: took it. That line from her lawyer, very very clearly
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  Speaker 2: implies that Judy Mikovitz took something from this lab in question.
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  Speaker 2: But now, nine years later, that information was all planted
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  Speaker 2: by the Feds. Okay, movies have a term for what
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  Speaker 2: Judy Mikovitz is, and that term is unreliable narrator, a
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  Speaker 2: narrator whose credibility is compromised. She is that one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: and we're still only like five minutes into this video.
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  Speaker 2: And then there are her claims about Anthony Fauci, which
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  Speaker 2: is where things get especially suspect. She inserts her expertise
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  Speaker 2: about AIDS into the conversation, expertise that we've already determined
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  Speaker 2: isn't quite what she makes it out to be, and
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  Speaker 2: she ties it to the government's failed response to that epidemic.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, the government's response to the AIDS epidemic was appalling,
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  Speaker 2: but that started way before any of these alleged confrontations
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  Speaker 2: with doctor Fauci are even alleged to have occurred. She
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  Speaker 2: talks about a massive cover up that Fauci participated in,
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  Speaker 2: but never really explains what that cover up was. She
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  Speaker 2: says all the lead researchers were paid off, without providing
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  Speaker 2: a shred of evidence that all the lead researchers were
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  Speaker 2: paid off. There is nothing happening in this video that
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  Speaker 2: suggests anything other than Judy Mikovitz having a serious acts
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  Speaker 2: to grind with the scientific community. Anyway, let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: another claim.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen so many doctors online that have made their
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  Speaker 4: own webcam videos just perplexed by the protocol that the
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  Speaker 4: CBC had given them.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about those doctors. Two of the doctors featured
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  Speaker 2: in this video, Dan Eriksson and our Teen Masihi, have
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  Speaker 2: very publicly refuted the claims in this video. Our Teen
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  Speaker 2: Massie he posted a statement on Instagram on May sixth,
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  Speaker 2: It's still up. You can go read it. His Instagram
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  Speaker 2: handle is artin Underscore m Assihi Underscore. The statement he
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  Speaker 2: posted reads in part, the creator of this film never
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  Speaker 2: asked for permission to use our footage and has skewed
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  Speaker 2: our study and interviews to fit their agenda, which we
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  Speaker 2: do not agree with nor appreciate. We are physicians and
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  Speaker 2: entrepreneurs and want to work with the administration to focus
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  Speaker 2: on solutions to open up our city, community and state.
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  Speaker 2: We continue to test for COVID nineteen at all of
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  Speaker 2: our locations and want to share this with our public
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  Speaker 2: health department. And as the video goes on, it leans
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  Speaker 2: on those two doctors a whole lot to back up
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  Speaker 2: all of her points about how coronavirus is essentially fake.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not what these doctors were saying in these
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  Speaker 2: videos that are being chopped up and edited and used
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  Speaker 2: in pandemic to make it seem like the medical community
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  Speaker 2: agrees with her. Those doctors were just arguing about the
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  Speaker 2: need to shut things down the way we have. They
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  Speaker 2: were in no way arguing coronavirus isn't real. So if
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  Speaker 2: you believe this video, that's a detail you should take
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  Speaker 2: into account. The doctor she's using to back up her
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  Speaker 2: point don't agree with her point. There are actually a
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  Speaker 2: lot of wild medical claims made in this video, and
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  Speaker 2: there are medical professionals who can and have refuted those
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  Speaker 2: points a whole lot better than I can. For the
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  Speaker 2: sake of time, I'll just tell you that we link
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  Speaker 2: to some of those articles on pops dot com.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Go check them out.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: But to close out, I want to talk about one
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: other key claim in this video.
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  Speaker 4: Here it comes so I have to ask you, are
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  Speaker 4: you anti vaccine?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely not. I'm in fact, vaccine is immune therapy, just
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: like interferre on alpha is immune therapy. So I'm not
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: anti vaccine. My job is to develop immune therapies. That's
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: what vaccines are.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But, as pointed out by the Journal Science, who also
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: have taken a shot at debunking this video, there is
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: another recent video featuring Judy Mikeowitz, and in that video,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: she's wearing a hat that says Vaxed two, which is
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a sequel to a film called Vaxed that links vaccines
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to autism, which is a claim that has been debunked
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot. When the Journal Science requested an interview
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: with Judy Mikovitz for their article, she responded by sending
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  Speaker 2: them a PowerPoint presentation. In that PowerPoint, she calls for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: an immediate moratorium on all vaccines. So she's very, very
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: obviously part of the anti vaxxer movement, which again raises
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the obvious question.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Why lie about that? Why lie about any of this?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Why lie about so many things in the span of
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: one twenty five minute video, and then she has the
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: goal to end this interview by talking about how you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: should be wary of scientists because some of them will
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: just take the money and run and spread false information.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And I kind of feel like that's what happened here.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: We're talking about someone who hasn't published anything since twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 2: who was basically run out of the scientific community for
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: being stubbornly wrong about the results of her scientific findings,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden, she's just back in
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  Speaker 2: the public eye with this wild theory that implicates pretty
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: much the entire scientific community that rejected her claims in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: twenty eleven. I think there is definitely a scientist involved
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in this video who is just taking the misinformation and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: running with it for the sake of notoriety and maybe
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a little money. And I think Judy Mikovitz is that scientist.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: So I don't know where I know. This episode is
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: way shorter than the usual episode, But what do you
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: want from me. We're talking about a twenty five minute video.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: There's only so many claims to refute. What I will
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: tell you is, I'm sorry, I don't believe this video.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I think she's lying.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: There are too many flat out lies in this video
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: for any reasonable person to trust Judy Mikovitz's claims in
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: this video. That's all doesn't mean I agree with the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: way it was banned and taken down from YouTube. Feel
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: like this is a thing we could just refute without
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: acting like it's secret information that the world can't be
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: privy to. But whatever, that doesn't even matter. What matters
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: is that this video is bullshit. Wear a fucking mask,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: all right. I think that is our episode. For links
• 23:18
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• 23:21
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• 23:26
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