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Jes Staley And The Transcripts From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 2) (8/31/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
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  Speaker 1: the Jeff Staley transcript from his trip to Congress. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Returning to your dealings with Mr. Epstein, you referenced earlier
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  Speaker 1: that you believed it was in your discretion to divulge
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  Speaker 1: confidential information. Is that accurate? Answer yes. Question. Doesn't the
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  Speaker 1: nature of confidentiality mean that there are barriers around what
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  Speaker 1: you can divulge? Answer, but I think senior officers of
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  Speaker 1: the bank, whether it's to a lawyer or to a
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  Speaker 1: consultant or someone that they consider knowledgeable in the industry,
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  Speaker 1: can ask questions and can talk about confidential issues, issues
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  Speaker 1: that obviously a person cannot act on. Question, were there
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  Speaker 1: any barriers to your sharing information with Mr. Epstein specifically
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  Speaker 1: by J.P. Morgan? Answer, no. Question, how often did you
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  Speaker 1: interact with Mr. Epstein in a personal capacity? Answer. Again,
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  Speaker 1: my interactions were predominantly around business and my career, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to characterize just personal. Question. Well, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Staley documents released by the DOJ illustrate that you reference Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein as family to you. What did that mean? Answer.
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  Speaker 1: I use warm language both in personal capacity as well
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  Speaker 1: as a professional capacity. I refer to many colleagues and
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  Speaker 1: people I work with as friends, so I didn't find
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  Speaker 1: that particularly unique. Question. You reference to everyone you have
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  Speaker 1: a business relationship with as family? Answer, I didn't say
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  Speaker 1: I reference everyone I had business with as family. Question, no,
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  Speaker 1: I asked if you referenced. Answer, so the answer to
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  Speaker 1: that question would be no. Question, so why Mr. Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: Answer again, he was one of the people I dealt
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  Speaker 1: with in business that was particularly helpful on a number
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  Speaker 1: of levels and transactions. And so I believe the first
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  Speaker 1: person to reference a family issue was him referencing to me.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was just being accommodating to what he
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  Speaker 1: was doing. Question, you've already referenced Mr. Epstein. Did communicate
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  Speaker 1: with your daughter? Did he have a relationship with all
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  Speaker 1: of your family members? Answer, no, just principally me and
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  Speaker 1: my eldest daughter. Question, did you get the impression that
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  Speaker 1: your family liked him? Answer, again, my second daughter had
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  Speaker 1: no interaction with him really, and my wife had very
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  Speaker 1: limited interaction with him. Question, what was the nature of
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  Speaker 1: your daughter's relationship with Mr. Epstein? Answer, she was getting,
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  Speaker 1: she was in the process of getting a PhD in physics.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was very engaged, it seemed, or it appeared, in
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  Speaker 1: the scientific community, internationally, and in the academic community, particularly
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  Speaker 1: with Columbia and Harvard. Question, did they frequently communicate without
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  Speaker 1: your knowledge? Answer, no, I don't think so. Question, I'm
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  Speaker 1: entering Majority Exhibit 1 into the record which is bait-stamped
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  Speaker 1: with EFTA 00905750 and dated March 5, 2011. This is
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  Speaker 1: an email between you, Mr. Staley, and Mr. Epstein. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get that passed out and give you a moment to review.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever you're ready. Answer, I'm ready. Question, do you recognize
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  Speaker 1: this document, Mr. Staley? Answer, I recognize it's an email
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  Speaker 1: from Mr. Epstein, yeah. Question, can you please read it
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  Speaker 1: into the record? Answer, from Jess Staley to J-E-E. Vacation
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  Speaker 1: at Gmail, no subject. The date is Saturday, the 5th
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  Speaker 1: of March 11th. I think 5-11- 41 seconds and it
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  Speaker 1: reads debbie and i were talking tonight about what you
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  Speaker 1: have meant to me and to redacted you have paid
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  Speaker 1: a price for what has been accused but we know
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  Speaker 1: what you have done for us and we count you
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  Speaker 1: as one of our deepest friends and most honest of
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  Speaker 1: people thanks jess question and mr staley is debbie referring
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  Speaker 1: to your legally married wife who you're separated from answer
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  Speaker 1: yes question and redacted refers to your daughter answer yes
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  Speaker 1: question why did you send this email Answer, it was
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  Speaker 1: quite unique at the time that a young woman, a
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  Speaker 1: young woman would pursue a PhD in physics and redacted
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  Speaker 1: at one point made the decision to pursue a career
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  Speaker 1: as a physicist. Epstein was, as I said, very connected
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  Speaker 1: to the scientific community and he had encouraged my daughter
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  Speaker 1: to pursue a doctorate in physics and connected her to
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  Speaker 1: some people in the physics community. Mr. Grant, we've had
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  Speaker 1: some members of Congress join in. Could they please announce
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  Speaker 1: themselves for the record? James Comer, Chairman, House Oversight Committee.
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  Speaker 1: Raja Krishnamoorthi. Grant, thank you all. Brignac, question. Mr. Staley,
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  Speaker 1: I understand and sworn testimony to the Financial Conduct Authority
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  Speaker 1: you admitted by 2010. You knew that Mr. Epstein lied
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  Speaker 1: to you in 2006 about the ages of victims who
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  Speaker 1: had broad allegations against him. This email you said is
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  Speaker 1: in 2011. Can you help reconcile our confusion about why
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  Speaker 1: you would call him the most honest of people? when
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  Speaker 1: you knew he lied to you? Answer, again, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was a reflection of the pride that we had
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  Speaker 1: in what our daughter was doing, the uniqueness of someone
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  Speaker 1: of her age accomplishing what she had accomplished in physics.
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  Speaker 1: I was, I think, reflective more of what Redacted was
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  Speaker 1: doing than anything else, but he was helpful, and I
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  Speaker 1: used warm language on many occasions. And he was constructive
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  Speaker 1: in what our daughter accomplished. Question, can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: about your first interaction with Glenn Maxwell? Answer, I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe I had interaction with Glenn Maxwell. Question, you recommended J.P.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan open an account for her, correct? Answer, I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember that. Question, would it help if we refreshed your recollection? Answer, sure. Question,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go off the record. Now they're back on. Brignac,
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  Speaker 1: I'm entering Majority Exhibit 2 into the record, which is
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  Speaker 1: an internal report generated by J.P. Morgan and bait-stamped EFTA 015-82859. Question,
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  Speaker 1: I would draw your attention, Mr. Staley, to the bottom
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  Speaker 1: right of the page, under the Banker Response column where
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  Speaker 1: it states, Ghislaine Maxwell is a very close friend to
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, who is an existing client, and who has
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  Speaker 1: recommended us to her. Jess Staley has also met with
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  Speaker 1: her and has recommended that we open an account for her.
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  Speaker 1: Do you recall meeting Ms. Maxwell now? Answer, I don't. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did J.P. Morgan end up opening an account for Ms. Maxwell? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I have learned that they did, yes. Question, and we
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  Speaker 1: can agree your recommendation for a referred client and opening
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  Speaker 1: an account probably carries quite a bit of weight with
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  Speaker 1: your senior roles, correct? Answer, I think there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: process to go to open an account of the private bank.
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  Speaker 1: That involves compliance departments, legal departments, etc. So I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a process that the bank follows. The recommendation would
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  Speaker 1: be accounted in that process, but it's a separate process
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  Speaker 1: for opening an account. Question, did Mr. Epstein ask you
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  Speaker 1: to meet with Ms. Maxwell? Answer, I don't recall that. Question,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever met with Ms. Maxwell on any other occasion?
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  Speaker 1: Answer again, I don't know what occasion this refers to.
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  Speaker 1: If you have what occasion, that would be helpful for
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  Speaker 1: my memory. Question, oh, just based on your personal knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: do you have any recollection of any other meetings with Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell besides the one that you showed? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how often would you have casual or private conversations with Mr. Epstein?
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  Speaker 1: Answer again. I think we met with a fair degree
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  Speaker 1: of frequency and had a fair degree of telephone calls
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  Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, so fairly often. Question, can
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  Speaker 1: you estimate daily, weekly, monthly? Answer, I would say weekly. Question, weekly.
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  Speaker 1: Did Mr. Epstein ever discuss young girls or women with you? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: no he did not. Question, did Mr. Epstein ever introduce
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  Speaker 1: you to young women or girls? Answer, no he did not. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein ever discuss massages with you? Answer, no
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  Speaker 1: he did not. Question, Did you ever witness Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: receive a massage of any kind from a young woman
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  Speaker 1: or girl? Answer, no, I did not. Question, did you
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  Speaker 1: ever witness Mr. Epstein pay women for massages? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I did not. Question, did you ever witness Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: giving cash to other young women or girls? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I did not. Question, did you ever witness Ms. Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: giving cash to young women or girls? Answer, no, I
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  Speaker 1: did not. Question, did Mr. Epstein ever discuss sexual acts
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  Speaker 1: with you? Answer, no. Question, did you ever witness Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein sexually abuse or assault young women or girls? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever witness Ms. Maxwell sexually abuse or assault
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  Speaker 1: young women or girls? Answer, no. Question, did you ever
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  Speaker 1: witness Mr. Epstein engage in sexual conduct? Answer, no, I
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  Speaker 1: did not. Question, did you ever witness Ms. Maxwell engage
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  Speaker 1: in sexual conduct? Answer, no, I did not. Question, did
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  Speaker 1: you ever witness Mr. Epstein exploit young women or girls? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I did not. Question, Ms. Maxwell. No, I did not. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did they ever threaten anyone? Answer, I never saw that. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein or Ms. Maxwell ever ask if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted them to bring women or girls to you? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever have any sexual contact with any young
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  Speaker 1: woman or girl introduced to you by Mr. Epstein? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean by introduced? Question, however you interpret
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  Speaker 1: the introduction. Answer, so ask the question again. Question, Did
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  Speaker 1: you ever have sexual contact with any young woman or
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  Speaker 1: girl introduced to you by Mr. Epstein? Answer, young women
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  Speaker 1: and girls, no. Question, why the confusion on that question?
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  Speaker 1: Is there someone you think we should be aware of? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: as I've testified before, I had an encounter once with
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  Speaker 1: someone who was on Epstein's staff, but was a mature woman. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll return to that. Did you ever have any sexual
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  Speaker 1: contact with young women or girls in the presence of Epstein? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: were you ever aware that Mr. Epstein regularly entertained young
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  Speaker 1: women at his residences? Answer, no. Question, how did Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein act towards the young women or girls that were
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  Speaker 1: around him? Answer, as I said, I didn't see him
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  Speaker 1: with young women or girls around him. Question, how did
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  Speaker 1: he act with his assistants? Answer, he treated them professionally. Question,
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  Speaker 1: can we agree his assistants were mostly young women, correct?
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  Speaker 1: Answer again, it would be helpful if you define young women.
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  Speaker 1: There were women of late 20s, 30s. Question, were you
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  Speaker 1: aware of the nature of any of Mr. Epstein's activities
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  Speaker 1: involving minors? Answer, no. Question, when did you become aware
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  Speaker 1: of these activities? Answer, I knew in 2006 that he
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  Speaker 1: was indicted for and obviously was aware of the 2008 plea,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when I think those, when I became aware
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  Speaker 1: of the allegations, that he was involved with minors. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you know of any individual that knowingly facilitated Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein in his criminal activity? Answer, no. Question, and for
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  Speaker 1: the record, have you ever been contacted by any law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement agency concerning Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. Question, have you ever been interviewed by
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  Speaker 1: any law enforcement agency concerning Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. Question, have you ever provided any information
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  Speaker 1: to law enforcement concerning Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. Question, did Jeffrey Epstein ever inform or
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  Speaker 1: represent to you he was working with any intelligence service
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  Speaker 1: of any nation, including the United States? Answer, no, he
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  Speaker 1: did not. Question, did Glenn Maxwell? Answer, no, she did not. Question,
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  Speaker 1: during your relationship, did you suspect Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell of being affiliated with any intelligence agency? Answer, Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein had a network of contacts internationally, but I never
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  Speaker 1: associated it with an intelligence agency. Question, and at any time,
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  Speaker 1: have you had an affiliation with any intelligence agency? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: when I was with the private bank, I had some
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  Speaker 1: interactions with parts of the U.S. intelligence system. Question, Have
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  Speaker 1: you or any of your representatives or agents asked anyone
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  Speaker 1: to sign a nondisclosure agreement or other agreement in connection
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  Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein? No, I have not. Question. Have you
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  Speaker 1: or any of your representatives or agents asked anyone to
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  Speaker 1: sign a nondisclosure agreement in connection to Maxwell? Answer. No,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. Question. Have you or any of your
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  Speaker 1: representatives or agents asked anyone to sign a nondisclosure agreement
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  Speaker 1: affiliated with any of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell's victims? Answer, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have not. All right, folks, we're going to wrap
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  Speaker 1: up right here. And in the next episode, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to pick up with, I'm going to follow up with
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  Speaker 1: more questions. But for now, please answer yes or no
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