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216: Jennifer Lawrence and the Road to Stardom · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, my name's Jennifer Lawrence, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime. The following feature has been rated R by
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  Speaker 2: the Motion Picture Association of America. It is intended for
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  Speaker 2: mature audiences, and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 4: Provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 5: To your citizens, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Jennifer, just relax, take it slow, and let the
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  Speaker 6: good times roll.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 7: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 7: from the Alley Theatre. And with that, we have not
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  Speaker 7: one but two new people sitting in this week, one
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  Speaker 7: of whom is connected to this place. So first, we'll
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  Speaker 7: get to Philip. Philip, I've known you forever, so I've
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  Speaker 7: been trying for quite a while to lure you into
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  Speaker 7: the evils that is Movie Meltdown. So say hello, I suppose.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you've got a good amount of movie geek knowledge,
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  Speaker 7: and you'll tolerate me for short amounts of time. So
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  Speaker 7: you're a good candidate already.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 7: And then we also have Sterling.
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  Speaker 5: Greetings.
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  Speaker 7: You are connected to this theater that we are in
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  Speaker 7: right now. So do you want to give people a
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  Speaker 7: rundown of the basics of the Alley Theater?
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  Speaker 3: Sure. The Alley Theater, which is located in Butchertown in
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  Speaker 3: a basement, is actually a fantastic place to be.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know that.
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  Speaker 7: It's Radiant.
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  Speaker 8: Shh.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker 3: It's on the tower that you can see in Butchertown.
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  Speaker 7: You know, that one. Oh, everything's covered in gold.
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  Speaker 3: It's shining. Yeah, it's beautiful. I do love this place, though.
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  Speaker 3: It's awesome, actually. Yeah, it's located in the bottom floor
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  Speaker 3: of the Pointe. with an E at the end because
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  Speaker 3: we're fancy.
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  Speaker 5: It is fancy.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I just started as production manager here a
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  Speaker 3: couple of months ago. And anyway, welcome, Movie Meltdown. We
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  Speaker 3: are happy to have you.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we got steered this direction. And I told you,
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  Speaker 7: I was like, I would have known. I would have
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  Speaker 7: been here sooner. Got all kinds of fun things we
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  Speaker 7: can do here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Lots of toys to play with.
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  Speaker 7: So hopefully, yeah, in the future, we're trying to expand
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  Speaker 7: and do some fun stuff coming up in this next year.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, we're going to try to work together on
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  Speaker 7: some of those projects. Cool, cool. Let's see. That having
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  Speaker 7: been said, I won't go into it fully because it's
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  Speaker 7: not kicking in until next month, but we, as usual,
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  Speaker 7: are broke. And I bring it up all the time,
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  Speaker 7: but I decided let's just kind of focus it and
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  Speaker 7: we can have that fancy NPR mode of this is
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  Speaker 7: the only time this year we'll be asking you. We'll
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  Speaker 7: do that, but we're going to shoot for next month.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm actually going to do a focused month-long fundraiser
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  Speaker 7: kind of thing And I'm just putting it out there
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  Speaker 7: now because if you're getting any money back on your
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  Speaker 7: tax returns, save us a big chunk of it is
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  Speaker 7: what I'm saying. Because there will be like, it's a
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  Speaker 7: multi-tiered reward system. You're going to get cool stuff out
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  Speaker 7: of it. So I'm just telling you, save a little
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  Speaker 7: cash right now. Just a heads up. So it's not
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  Speaker 7: officially started, but I'll let you know. I'm sure you'll
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  Speaker 7: be fully aware and sick of it before it's over with.
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  Speaker 7: Other than that, for this week's Geek activity. Forget all
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  Speaker 7: the other old geek activities. This week, I had a
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  Speaker 7: geek activity years in the making. Now, you guys listening
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  Speaker 7: at home know what it is because you probably looked
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  Speaker 7: at the name of it when you downloaded it. You
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  Speaker 7: guys sitting here don't know. I haven't clued you in
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  Speaker 7: on the amazing event that happened earlier this week. I
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  Speaker 7: think it's amazing because I didn't think it would ever
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  Speaker 7: actually pan out. Yeah, this past week, I interviewed Jennifer Lawrence.
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  Speaker 9: Wow.
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  Speaker 7: Cool.
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  Speaker 3: Did not see it coming.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't either. I didn't, and I've been working on
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  Speaker 7: it for years.
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  Speaker 3: Like sending a letter to her house every week.
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  Speaker 7: Trying to get the restraining order taken off.
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  Speaker 3: Jennifer, we can have an interview. All you have to
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  Speaker 3: do is get that restraining order taken away.
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  Speaker 8: So wait, did you know about this two weeks ago?
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  Speaker 7: No, I did not.
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  Speaker 8: When you were naysaying and talking about how it was
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  Speaker 8: never going to happen.
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  Speaker 7: No and making fun of those other shows that also
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  Speaker 7: didn't have interviews with gender for like yeah just just
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  Speaker 7: saying you know anyway really it is i think that
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  Speaker 7: is sort of a feather in our cap if you
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  Speaker 7: will i for for a show of our level to
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  Speaker 7: be pulling in a oscar nominated i i'd say you
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  Speaker 7: can't really argue a-list actress at this point um that's
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  Speaker 7: that's kind of a big deal i don't know many
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  Speaker 7: like geeks in their basement on skype that are pulling
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  Speaker 7: that in so you know we're We're geeks in a theater.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you. A gold-plated theater.
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  Speaker 10: A basement theater.
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  Speaker 7: Tower theater.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a really nice basement theater.
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  Speaker 7: It's a very nice basement.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 7: Look at these sets. They're fantastic. Don't describe the.
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  Speaker 10: Sets, please.
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  Speaker 7: Gold- No, stop. Just stop. But yeah, I just, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Not to pat myself on the back, but hold on.
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  Speaker 7: Let me dislocate my shoulder. No, I think it's really...
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  Speaker 7: kind of cool that it happened. It took a long
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  Speaker 7: time and, uh, you know, it's, it wasn't long, but
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  Speaker 7: it was what we could do. So I'm, I'm, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I'm going with it. So I figured with her, um,
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  Speaker 7: pending Oscar situation, we would kind of take a few
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  Speaker 7: minutes and talk about the Oscars. So I think that's,
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  Speaker 7: that's what we'll head into. We'll, we'll go ahead and
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  Speaker 7: take our break here. And, uh, when we come back in,
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  Speaker 7: I will be talking with Jennifer Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer, Jennifer, lives up on the hill.
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  Speaker 11: Jennifer, Juniper, sitting very still.
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  Speaker 12: Is she sleeping?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Is she breathing?
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  Speaker 13: Yes, very low.
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  Speaker 11: Whatcha doing, Jennifer, my love? Jennifer, Oh, the time is now,
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  Speaker 11: the time is here.
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  Speaker 9: Now's the time.
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  Speaker 11: To abide a cheer.
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  Speaker 9: The tasty life where the price is right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look in here, you'll dig this site.
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  Speaker 4: The moment's handy for a piece of candy.
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  Speaker 7: Just name your brand, they're all so grand.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, what do you think of a nice blue rank?
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 14: Sergeant Chamberlain Frederick Ross.
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  Speaker 2: We have an appointment. No one can see.
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  Speaker 7: What Jennifer saw. He was standing right where you are.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of breathless like you.
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  Speaker 10: Well, we had a real bad murderer up here a
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  Speaker 10: couple of years ago. A girl with no head and
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  Speaker 10: no hands.
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  Speaker 15: I believe the code is Jennifer.
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  Speaker 2: No one can imagine what Jennifer felt.
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  Speaker 7: I think I found something horrible, sir.
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  Speaker 14: I think I.
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  Speaker 16: Found a hand.
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  Speaker 2: What's with all this Jennifer stuff? These cases aren't connected, John.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I think they may be.
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  Speaker 2: He's a crazy man. To my certain knowledge, he has
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  Speaker 2: killed eight girls.
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  Speaker 15: Not a lot of support for that scenario, though, is there?
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  Speaker 2: But one man suspects why she could be next.
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  Speaker 7: If I promise to stop being a cop, will you
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  Speaker 7: promise to stop being a witness?
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  Speaker 2: She's a little young for.
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  Speaker 3: You, bro.
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  Speaker 2: You had a lousy life with a lousy wife.
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  Speaker 3: Is that why you need to pick on this little
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  Speaker 3: blind girl?
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  Speaker 2: Because you can control her. Our blind lady has been
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  Speaker 2: attacked again.
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  Speaker 12: Why does he want to kill me?
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  Speaker 5: Because he thinks you're a witness.
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  Speaker 3: There is no serial killer. You stick her name up
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  Speaker 3: in neon and there is still no serial killer.
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  Speaker 11: I love you. Are my lips lying to you?
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  Speaker 2: John, what's happening? Is my mouth lying to you?
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  Speaker 7: He was here.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a bad feeling about this. Is that you, John?
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  Speaker 5: I've been doing this too long to be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: What the.
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  Speaker 5: There is a bad man out there.
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  Speaker 15: And I don't know if he's in the next room.
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  Speaker 3: Or in the next state.
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  Speaker 15: And I don't know what his trigger is.
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  Speaker 3: If he's in the room with her, she's dead.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Garcia, Uma Thurman, and John Malkovich. Is anyone there?
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  Speaker 2: eight well i love the movies.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year ladies
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  Speaker 3: and gentlemen prepare yourselves.
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  Speaker 16: Ladies and gentlemen, prepare yourselves.
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  Speaker 15: It's time for the Movie Meltdown Oscar Mayer Party. With
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  Speaker 15: all the blitz, glamour, poor products, and vicious commentary you've
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  Speaker 15: come to know and love, the Academy Awards will never
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  Speaker 15: be the same.
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  Speaker 2: Bacon tastes good. Paw chops taste good.
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  Speaker 5: Coming soon to this feed.
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  Speaker 15: Don't miss it.
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  Speaker 7: Oscar Meltdown.
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  Speaker 15: It's going to be artery clocking good.
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  Speaker 17: I went to school with 27 Jennifers 16 Jens, 10 Jennys,
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  Speaker 17: and then there was her Mmm, yeah You might be
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  Speaker 17: the one that I've been seeking for You might be
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  Speaker 17: the strange daylight boomer.
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  Speaker 12: You might be the girlie who shall lend all girls.
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  Speaker 12: You might be the sweet on the spike boomer. I
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  Speaker 12: rode the bus with 27 Jennifers.
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  Speaker 7: All right, so we're here with Jennifer Lawrence. I guess,
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  Speaker 7: you know, at this point, we're weeks away from heading
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  Speaker 7: into the Oscars, so I thought we could address some
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  Speaker 7: of the Oscar situation, unless you're just kind of sick
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  Speaker 7: of it at this point. I'm assuming that's what everybody's
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  Speaker 7: asking you, no matter where you go at this point. Yep,
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  Speaker 7: it is.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay. It only lasts for a couple months.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it is kind of a big deal, so
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  Speaker 7: I thought, you know, since we're heading into it, we
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  Speaker 7: could sort of touch on that. First, I wanted to
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  Speaker 7: go back and see, Mike, as far as when you
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  Speaker 7: were a kid, is that something you were interested in?
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  Speaker 7: Were you kind of a kid that sat down and
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  Speaker 7: actually watched the ceremony and got into that?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I loved the answers.
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  Speaker 18: I always watched them growing up because it was I
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  Speaker 18: always thought, like, my brother used to watch, you know,
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  Speaker 18: the World Series and the Super Bowl, and I always thought, like,
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  Speaker 18: that was my Super Bowl, because I loved movies and
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  Speaker 18: I loved actors.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I loved watching that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was my World Series.
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  Speaker 7: You got into the whole tradition and the, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the ceremony that goes on with it all.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean, not really. I didn't really have.
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  Speaker 1: I just talked to me on TV, really.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, just kind of, like, you know, the whole... pageantry
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  Speaker 7: that goes on with it yeah but i mean i
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  Speaker 7: guess knowing that knowing that you were kind of a
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  Speaker 7: fan of it what was it like when you got
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  Speaker 7: that nomination the first.
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  Speaker 18: Time and it's kind of so surreal and so unbelievable
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  Speaker 18: that i'm still in a state of not really being
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  Speaker 18: able to believe it.
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  Speaker 9: And i still can't absorb it um i think the
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  Speaker 9: only time the only time that i really felt it
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  Speaker 9: and felt like I absorbed that moment and understood it
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  Speaker 9: was the second that I heard my name be called.
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  Speaker 9: And then after that, I've just been floating on a
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  Speaker 9: cloud of belief ever since.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and then what, I mean, what was it like
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  Speaker 7: walking into that theater that first time too? I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It was so crazy because I was able to bring my.
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  Speaker 9: Whole family with me, my brothers, my parents, and my sister-in-law,
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  Speaker 9: and just being able to.
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  Speaker 1: Like, to share that with everyone, with all of us
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  Speaker 1: kind of in this theater.
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  Speaker 8: Of what in hell are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: It could not have been, it couldn't have been a
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  Speaker 9: better day.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's definitely pretty far away from our hometown. I'm
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  Speaker 7: actually based out of Louisville, so we're... Oh, cool! Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so we're definitely pretty far away from Hollywood from the
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  Speaker 7: get-go there. I guess, you know, this time going in, before,
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  Speaker 7: you know, before we even get to that, how did
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  Speaker 7: you get involved in Silver Linings Playbook? Did they have
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  Speaker 7: you in mind when they were, you know, piecing the
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  Speaker 7: script together, or how did that happen?
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  Speaker 9: No, actually the opposite. I was, they weren't even going
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  Speaker 9: to consider me because I was too young, because I
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  Speaker 9: was supposed to be a widow. So they were kind
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  Speaker 9: of looking at every other actress that was, you know, older.
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  Speaker 9: And and they didn't even really want to meet with me,
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  Speaker 9: I don't think, because they knew I was too young.
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  Speaker 9: But I got on Skype with David O. Russell, and
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  Speaker 9: we just did an audition, and hopefully, like, the thing
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  Speaker 9: changed his mind. And I went out to New York
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  Speaker 9: and met with him in person, and I got it.
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  Speaker 7: David O. Russell's definitely got a reputation, and it's kind of,
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  Speaker 7: you know, been... had some stories about him as a director,
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  Speaker 7: so I guess what was your experience working with him
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  Speaker 7: as a director?
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  Speaker 9: Probably the most incredible experience of my entire life. I've
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  Speaker 9: actually never met someone who doesn't deserve a reputation more.
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  Speaker 9: I think that David had to go through whatever he
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  Speaker 9: had to go through to get to where he is now.
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  Speaker 9: He's the warmest, sweetest, funniest person in the entire world,
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  Speaker 9: and he's a genius, and I don't think that.
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  Speaker 9: My experience could have been any better with him. I
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  Speaker 9: think he's... He's a lovely, lovely, lovely person.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. That's kind of what I... We talked to
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  Speaker 7: Lily Tomlin, and she... She was talking about her experience
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  Speaker 7: working with him on I Heart Huckabees, and even as
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  Speaker 7: much friction as they had, she still, you know, by
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  Speaker 7: the end of it, was still, like, loved him, and
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  Speaker 7: he was a genius, and, like, it's just, yeah, his
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  Speaker 7: work ethic is, you know, you spend that much time
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  Speaker 7: on set, I guess they start to drive each other crazy,
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  Speaker 7: but they still loved each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, but also, I mean, David is just so, he
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  Speaker 9: just has a passion. He's just so passionate about what
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  Speaker 9: he does that he brings that passion and that energy
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  Speaker 9: to set and just makes you want to make the
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  Speaker 9: movie so much better, like no matter how tired you are.
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  Speaker 9: He just has this, he's had this passion that's contagious
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  Speaker 9: and there's no kind of set like a David O.
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  Speaker 1: Russell set.
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  Speaker 9: People are just excited to be there.
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  Speaker 7: Well, once you got in there and found out you
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  Speaker 7: were working with Bradley Cooper, I mean, it's sort of
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  Speaker 7: a very different turn compared to what he had been doing.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, what did you expect going in working with,
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  Speaker 7: you know, had you met him before the movie?
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  Speaker 9: No, we hadn't met before the table read, and then
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  Speaker 9: our first day together was dance rehearsal, which is a
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  Speaker 9: really great way to get to know somebody if you're
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  Speaker 9: sweating on them immediately. Um, so, and then he, he
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  Speaker 9: was so nice, so funny, so wonderful. And on the
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  Speaker 9: first day of work, when I saw him as Pat,
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  Speaker 9: I just, I, he blew me away.
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  Speaker 15: I just thought he was incredible.
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  Speaker 9: And I couldn't imagine anybody else doing, doing a better
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  Speaker 9: job than him. He was just incredible.
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  Speaker 7: And that, I mean, the whole cast, I mean, working
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  Speaker 7: with Robert De Niro and Jackie Weaver, I mean, it's, how,
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  Speaker 7: how overwhelming is it, is all of that?
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know what? It was really overwhelming on the
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  Speaker 9: flight in, thinking, oh, my God, I'm going to walk
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  Speaker 9: into a room with Jackie Weaver, Robert De Niro, Bradley Cooper,
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  Speaker 9: and David O.
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  Speaker 8: Russell.
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  Speaker 1: What am I going to do? This is going to
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  Speaker 1: be insane.
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  Speaker 9: And then you walk in, and I met them, and
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  Speaker 9: Bob is just the nicest. He's just warm, and he's normal,
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  Speaker 9: and it's just impossible to be starstruck by him when
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  Speaker 9: he's talking to you because he's just looking you in
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  Speaker 9: the eye, and he's just being... And he's normal. And
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  Speaker 9: so he just instantly makes you comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: And Jackie is probably one of my favorite people, I think,
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  Speaker 1: on planet Earth.
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  Speaker 9: She's just sweet and.
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  Speaker 1: Funny and so lovely and so warm. And it's the
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  Speaker 1: same thing with Bradley. All of these people are just
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  Speaker 1: so intimidating on their way in. And when you finally
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  Speaker 1: get to meet them, it's like, oh, great.
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  Speaker 7: Well, you mentioned the dancing. Had you done much of
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  Speaker 7: that beforehand? Or how much prep did you have to
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: do going into that segment?
• 18:35
  Speaker 18: Oh, God, no.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: I'm a horrible dancer. We have about... I mean, we
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: started rehearsing from day one. And then we rehearsed pretty
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: much every day that we could, even.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: While we were filming.
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: So we rehearsed that dance for about a month. It
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: was really hard. I mean, it was sometimes... I remember
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: being like, this is... Because I had just wrapped The
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: Hunger Games, which was probably the most physically intense movie
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: I've ever done.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: And I remember at times being like, this is more
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: exhausting than not agreeing.
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: Like, send me back out a little bit.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I can't do that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, as you're heading into that evening, do
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: you have plans for, like, what you're going to do
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: beforehand or how you're going to handle it once you
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: get in there?
• 19:24
  Speaker 9: I normally have my friends come up because it's such
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: a long process getting ready because A lot of times
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: your dress needs to be tailored to day up, so
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: everybody gets their hours before, and.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Then hair and makeup, and I called it the pit crew.
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: The pit crew arrives, and it's really just hanging out
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: for hours. I like to invite my friends just so
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: I can have some normal, like, fun, and, like, it
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: can make me laugh and kind of keep my mind off.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Of it so I don't get nervous.
• 19:50
  Speaker 16: Yeah distractions yeah I only try to avoid caffeine because
• 19:54
  Speaker 16: I'll have time I was so I mean obviously I
• 19:57
  Speaker 16: was really excited to be there but I was just
• 19:59
  Speaker 16: then when your nerves.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: And caffeine and like adrenaline hit I like walked.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Down the red carpet like.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: No more espressos for you Well, then it's a weird
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: situation where you've actually got, you know, all of the
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: main areas covered, really, as far as all the other actors,
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: all your co-stars, you know, the movie. So I guess
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: my question then was going to be something different of like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: you know, obviously you're sort of rooting for all them.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: Is there anything like. anything else that's nominated or anything
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: else you're sort of, you know, you're sort of rooting
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: for as, like, an underdog, you know, documentary or, like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: some other people that are going to be there that
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: you're interested to see?
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: I really, I think one of the most surprising things
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: about Oscar season is the friends that you make. Like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: Sally Field and I, I think, are going to start
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: a carpool. And just, I mean, I love pieces of
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: Southern Wild and Amour and And it's really, it never
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: feels like a competition. It's just, I feel like all
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: of these people are my friends. And because it's not,
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: it's art, you know, and it's just, we all have
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: similar passions and we all have such a great part
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: of our lives in common. And everybody is so supportive.
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like I was laughing about with
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: the writer of Argo last night. And I was telling
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: Jennifer Garner, we both feel like Silver Linings and Argo
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: are brothers. Because every time Argo wins for something, we
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: all stand up and start clapping. Anytime Silver Linings wins,
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: they stand up and start clapping. It's just like the
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: kind of brotherhood that you make with these things. Because
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: nobody really just... And it is the truth. I know
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: that people get annoyed when people say this because it
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: sounds like a cliche, but the truth is it's an
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: honor to be nominated. And that's really... that's really the
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: only thing that matters. Um, yeah, there has to be
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: a winner because they need, they need TV ratings, but
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: that's not really what matters to us. And, um, and
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: it's just, it's just like an incredible time to get to,
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: to get to know legends and to get to know
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: these people who have inspired.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Me my whole life.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, at that point, it's such an impressive group
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: of people. You can flip a coin. It doesn't matter,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: but yeah, just to be included in that and now
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: to be included in that twice, that's, you know, that's impressive.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Dave, I do not get superheroes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: Oh my god, I don't get you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: What don't you get? Towerbot here.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Well, the meatbags were going to say that if you're
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: a geek and like podcasts, then you could try Tower
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: of Technobabble at www.toweroftechnobabble.com.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Then this started. Well, it's up to you.
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna get my taser and put a stop to this.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Towerbot out. Okay, monkeys.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It's noctilony.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: Hey guys, look what I've got. Check out these awesome
• 23:30
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• 23:34
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• 23:37
  Speaker 10: Why would you use wood to make technology?
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Because they're... It's like... They're steam... Is.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Steampunk really wood? I thought it was more of a
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: brass thing.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Well, you got to work the wood in to hold
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: the brass together. These are the fancy high-end steampunk versions
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: with a mic built in, mind you. But yeah, where
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: would I get these you under?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Tweaked Audio.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Way to pitch.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: You want to hear more, you say?
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: TweakedAudio.com.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Hey, they are available in three styles and seven colors.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: And they sound pretty damn good. I kind of forgot
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: because I hadn't had my old pair in a while
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: and I was using the knockoff crappy ones I bought
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: at the store. And I got these and put them in.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, shit, that's right. These are actually
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: really good. So they are professional quality earbuds, mind you. And,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: you know, noise reducing, compatible with your iPods and most phones,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: unless you have a dumb phone. You should really get
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: a smartphone, not a dumb phone.
• 24:37
  Speaker 14: But You just keep a bunch on hand for gifts
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: when you don't know what the perfect thing is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: Around the holidays, I was putting that word out. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: was like, you know, go ahead and stock up. They're
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: good for Hanukkah. They're good for Christmas.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for a while there, we were thinking at the alley,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: we'd have a giant stack of iPads and be like, hey, guys,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: thanks for coming down. I'm sorry you didn't want to
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: see the show, but here, take a free iPad.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: That's a pretty good promo, actually.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: If it said, like, the alley on the back, you'd
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: be like, hey, look at this.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: The Tommy Fresh style of promotions.
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: For all you Parks and.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: Rec fans out there. Yeah, he's on to something, though.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: If you give someone a free iPad, they're far more
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: likely to look upon you favorably.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: I'm not wearing his old clothes, though. That's all I
• 25:21
  Speaker 7: have to say.
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a little weird.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: So, anyway, the... The basic rundown here, if you need
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: yourself some earbuds, tweakedaudio.com. And if you go there, there's
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: a deal. There's a Meltdown deal. If you go, there's
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: a discount code, and you put in Meltdown, you get
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: 33% off and free shipping. That's all I'm saying. You
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: guys are excited, right?
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: As well you should be.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: A little more passion, guys.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Look, he's directing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Crap. Told me not to do that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: It's like it's a theater or something. Tweet.io.com. Use the
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: Meltdown code. That's all I'm saying.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Hi, this is Lily Tomlin, and I'm moving Meltdown with Brian.
• 26:11
  Speaker 19: Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen
• 26:13
  Speaker 19: Pour myself a cup of ambition And yawn and stretch
• 26:17
  Speaker 19: and try to come to life Jump in the shower
• 26:21
  Speaker 19: and the blood starts pumping. Out on the streets the
• 26:24
  Speaker 19: traffic starts jumping. With folks like me on the job
• 26:27
  Speaker 19: from nine to five.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: All of life's riddles are.
• 26:35
  Speaker 14: Answered in the movies.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And now, on with the show.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: On the stairway to stardom, you'll see tomorrow starts today.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: On the stairway to.
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: Stardom, we're here to brighten up your day.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: We've got singers.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: And dancers and actors performing for you.
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: But there's more, so much more, and it's all right
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: here for you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 11: On the stairway to stardom.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: All right, we're back. And once again, I must say
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: thank you to Jennifer Lawrence, who talked to me and
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: put up with me more than anything. So thank you
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: to Jennifer. And yeah, we'll see what we can do.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: That was a minor version. I'm already throwing it out there.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: She needs to come sit down with us, come to
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: the theater, come hang out with us. So, you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: we're I'm putting the wheels in motion now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a Hollywood actress. She should really want to
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: be in a theater at this point.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: I think so.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: You've got to go back to her roots.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: And especially this theater right here in her hometown.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Exactly, where she too can put on reproductions of bad
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: old sci-fi serials and Ed Wood movies.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: She would be awesome in Plan 9, which actually they
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: are doing a remake, but I don't know if she's
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: going to be cast in that one. But she can
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: come here and do it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because after all, Nine Plans for Ed Wood is
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: debuting next weekend here at the Alley.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Ooh, that wasn't a plug.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Very subtle.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: It's as subtle as that tweaked audio problem.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Known for my subtlety.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, we've gotten our Jennifer mania out of the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: way there. I tried to control myself. I think I
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: conducted myself as professional as I could, so. With that,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: we're moving back into our other favorite area, the grind.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: This segment, we discussed a specific topic or question related
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: to movies, and this week's topic comes from Fred. Who,
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: oddly enough, mentioned this whole sentence before he knew any
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: of this. Yeah. So he specifically said he wanted to discuss,
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: I believe he put it as, the phenomenon of stardom
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: and industry enfranchisement. You were wondering why it seems that
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: certain people, like Jennifer Lawrence, are being groomed for that
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: sort of thing, while other actors are just actors. So
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: I thought that would be good tie-in for both, since
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: number one, we just talked to Jennifer Lawrence, and number two,
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: we've got someone who deals with actors all the time.
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: So between all that, hopefully we get some sort of
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: good conversation going here. So where would you like to begin?
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Who, me?
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: Me?
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: You suggested it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: I just suggested the topic. I didn't have anything to
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: say about it. No, I just think it's kind of interesting,
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: the whole.
• 29:49
  Speaker 14: Difference between the art of acting and the star. It's
• 29:54
  Speaker 14: always sort of struck me going way back to when
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: I was a kid and I noticed Like, Burt Reynolds
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: wasn't in movies. He was somebody. Burt Reynolds is.
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: Is Sharky's machine.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: Is Gator.
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Was he Gator?
• 30:14
  Speaker 14: Was he Smokey or the Bandit? I don't even remember.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: Do you know where you can find out?
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Jupiter, Florida.
• 30:21
  Speaker 15: Really?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Are you aware of the Burt Reynolds Museum?
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Why are we not recording there?
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: That's an excellent question. It is the most, I'm going
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: to go ahead. This may be a bold statement and
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: I don't like speaking in absolutes generally, but it is
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: the greatest place in the world.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: That's a bold statement.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: It's in a strip mall, as you would imagine it
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: would be.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: It's under a dentist's office.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Is it in a basement?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: And when we went, we asked for the genesis. I
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: hope I'm not totally derailing this conversation.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: Can it get better than this?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Mentioning Burt Reynolds and not mentioning the Burt Reynolds Museum
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: would be a grave oversight. He, I guess, we asked
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: how this thing began, which is a natural question. And
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: we were told that back in the Lonnie days, when
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: Lonnie left Burt, she got the house. And she said, Bert,
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: I don't want anything in the house. I just want
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: the house. Get your shit and go. So he had
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: just stacks of ephemera. Wait, what was the best one?
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: There was like a skylight from Striptease. That's actually like
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: sort of the cornerstone of the entire collection. And it's
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: like pictures of him with like people in the 70s
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: and autographs and thank you notes and hotel room keys.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Just all the stuff he's accumulated from being Burt Reynolds. Exactly.
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: So he started his own museum.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Well, actually.
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: I mean, only really a person like Burt Reynolds can
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: do that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: He's the only person who can do this.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Well, I can see Tom Selleck taking a stab at it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: He put the stuff in storage and he had all
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: these storage units for years and years and years. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: one day he's, you know, I guess paying the bill
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: for the storage unit. And I was like, what the
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: hell am I doing? I'm paying to keep all this
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: stuff when I could have people pay me to see it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: So he rented the space below the dentist's office, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: there it is. It's also actually the Burt Reynolds Museum
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: and Community Theater tie-in. And there is at the beginning,
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: oh gosh, some eyes just lit up.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the idea of doing a production at Burt
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Reynolds Community Theater.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Crossover promotion is what we're looking at.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just imagining a proscenium like the front of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: stage with like a giant portrait of Burt Reynolds. like
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: hanging over it as everyone's acting.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: That's essentially what happens.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And they teach class in the middle of it. Yeah,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: it'd be fantastic.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: So, anyway, sorry. Back to.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: I don't know where to go after that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, right?
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, the problem is what do you lead up with?
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: I know where to go with that. There was a
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: great joke. I can't remember who it was about, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: it was like some actress who had just had or
• 32:41
  Speaker 14: adopted a baby and she went to a Hollywood party
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: and she noticed that, like, All the celebrities there projected
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: themselves onto the baby. Julia Roberts was there, and she
• 32:55
  Speaker 14: came up to the baby and said, Oh.
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: Your baby's so pretty. What a great smile.
• 33:01
  Speaker 14: And then Nora Ephron was there, and she came over
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: to the baby, and she said, Oh, your baby's so funny,
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: so intelligent. And then Lonnie Anderson was there, and she
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: came over to the baby, and she said, Bert's an asshole.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: I didn't even realize they were together that far. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: figured she was gone before striptease ever showed up.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: I didn't realize they hung in together that long.
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: Well, he might have added some other stuff just to
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: spice things up.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: Stuff in his new place that he was sick of
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: looking at.
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: Didn't he lose a lot of money in his little
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: restaurant chain thing?
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: Did he?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Not as much as Britney Spears lost in hers.
• 33:42
  Speaker 18: Really?
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: I think so.
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: What was hers?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Nyla. NY for New York, where she loved to live,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: and LA for Louisiana.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Where she was from.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: I assumed it was britney's fish joint well apparently the
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: idea was basically to sell like up upscale fish joint type.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Food to new yorkers and for whatever reason it lasted
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: all of about maybe a.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: Week today's special scrawl box fresh also what they call
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: their uh behind your back at the rehearsals yeah oh
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: yeah oh dude that's me Hey, did you talk to
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: the dancers?
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: I think I may have told that story before I
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: was driving out River Road, and at the Kingfish there,
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: they had a sign.
• 34:31
  Speaker 10: Out front, Scrod Box. Not good advertising.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: It's almost as bad as in Murray, Kentucky. There was
• 34:40
  Speaker 14: a place called Granny's Porch when I was in college there,
• 34:45
  Speaker 14: and they had the worst advertising.
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: I've probably told this already.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: I think I've heard it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it stayed in.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I haven't.
• 34:52
  Speaker 14: The sign out front said... open face granny burger.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: It's like can you imagine the commercials on tv like
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: timmy i want an open face granny.
• 35:06
  Speaker 20: Burger whoa it's gone it turned into every other kind
• 35:12
  Speaker 20: of restaurant it would be like go out of business
• 35:15
  Speaker 20: and then it was a mexican place for a while
• 35:17
  Speaker 20: and they had.
• 35:18
  Speaker 14: Like the creative writing workshops there But they still had
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: the open-faced granny burger. Yeah, then it was some other
• 35:22
  Speaker 14: kind of breakfast. But every time, all the food tasted
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: the same. It was like they had a stove that
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: only did one flavor. There was nothing you could do
• 35:34
  Speaker 14: to escape the granny's porch phenomenon.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: Open-faced granny burger just sounds like a a maneuver like
• 35:43
  Speaker 7: yeah after the dirty sanchez i tried the.
• 35:48
  Speaker 14: I don't know i think it sounds like a a
• 35:50
  Speaker 14: b slasher or something i don't.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Know i just imagine that as as the restaurant went
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: through multiple iterations like in every one there was like
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: the open-faced granny burger, then you had the open-faced granny fajitas,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: and then you had the open-faced granny breakfast sandwich.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Open-faced granny dog.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Open-faced granny omelet.
• 36:07
  Speaker 14: And then you had the scrod box.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: Granny scrod box.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Open-faced granny scrod box.
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: This is not good at all.
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: I don't think granny's going to sponsor us either.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You're not going to get that five bucks from your
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: grandma in the mail anymore.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: I was counting on that to run this show.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: So do we want to get back on that question?
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: Sure, why not?
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: What was it again?
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Stardom.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: I like people that focus the rest of these trying
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: to sit monkeys in front.
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: Of a microphone.
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: There are the star makers in the industry who just
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: decide they're going to enfranchise somebody. Or there was the
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: guy in The Godfather who wound up with a horse
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: in his bed. He was not this part is perfect
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: for Johnny Fontaine, and it would make him a huge star,
• 36:59
  Speaker 14: and he's never going to get it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: You know why?
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: That was great. It was like he was going to
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: non-star him.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: Isn't that what producers and managers, they kind of set
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: out to star you, and then when you piss them off,
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: they non-star you. Yeah, I guess.
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: But then there's that, who was that one actor, he
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: was like in Deadwood, twice as two different characters like
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: what the hell's his name yeah maybe he's on tv.
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: Now yeah he's he's awesome like he is like.
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: He is but he like tries not to be noticed.
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah stuff he's he's so good again somebody who can
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: be one character and turn around and come back and
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: be another character within the same show yeah and like
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: you're not really yeah i mean he's i've seen him
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: in so many like weird movies and like horror movies
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: and like being dead serious and then He's on Raising Hope,
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: and it's the goofiest slapstick perform, and he's genius at it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: It's one of the few performances on TV right now
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: that I will actually seek out and want to watch.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: Most stuff I could care less about, but that show's good,
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: and he's amazing on it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: In theater, we call those actors, and they just turn
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: around and do something else.
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: It's crazy.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, I've seen him do it too.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: It's wild. This is one of those theater stories.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't know. I, I mean, I don't
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: pretend to fully understand as well as I would like
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to how well the movie industry works, but at the
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: same time you can easily see. Um, and I know
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: this too from experience that there are the people, there
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: are the people in movies definitely who get elevated because
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: they're a type of And you can see that in basically,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, unfortunately, I think this tends to happen to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: starlets a little bit more than to male stars. It's like, okay,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: we need a blonde younger type, you know, or we
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: need a brunette glasses type or something like that. And
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: whoever fits that pattern and they like their agent and,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: you know, in other words, it becomes a numbers game
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: kind of. But then there are guys like a great
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: example being Gary Busey or somebody who just shows up
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: in like a million movies and you've seen them in
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: a million movies before you even know who they are. Um,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and that's probably because they know everybody else. Like they
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: know the casting people, they know the other actors, they
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: know blah, blah, blah. So, you know, when there comes when, okay,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: well we need a guy to be in this role. Well, Hey,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Gary's free this weekend. Like, you know, in other words,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: there are always those guys who people. people in the
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: industry know them and they know they can fit fit
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: into any production. But they're not necessarily pumped as stars
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: or really promoted as stars, but they wind up doing
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: tons of work.
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: Well, he turned a corner on his career and now
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: he's more of a star for his craziness than anything else.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: But I mean, he did, if you go back to
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: even all the way through the eighties, that he was
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: just nonstop. He was a working actor. Oh yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: And, and it's true actually, like a lot of, I mean,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: people forget cause they tend to look at like, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: think Hollywood and they see all the stars and they're like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: those are the actors. But if you, if you, if
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: you look at like, especially if you go and spend
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: a couple of hours on IMDB, you'll see there's a
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: huge number of working actors in Hollywood. They're in everything,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like all kinds of movies that you've seen and they're,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: and you don't even realize just how permeated like your
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: movie experience is with these people. They're kind of the
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: silent stars in everything.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: There's a good amount of those that are just working. Actually,
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: I just watched a documentary. I think it was the,
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: that guy who was in that thing. Have you seen that? It's, It's,
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: that's what it is. It's nothing but.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: The guy who was in the thing?
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: No, it's like 23... It was somewhere like 20 or
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: 25 different actors, and they're all, oh, yeah, that guy.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: They've worked in 40 films, and nobody has an idea
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: what their name is. They're just like, oh, he's that
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: guy that was in that one thing. Everybody recognizes you.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: Everybody can sometimes even describe the movies you were in
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: or the roles that you play, but has no idea
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: what their name is. And most of them on there,
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: I kind of fell into that category. There were a
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: few that even I was like, okay, I know that one.
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: I know I knew him by name, but like there
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: were a lot of them that I was like, yep,
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: recognize him. Couldn't tell you what the hell his name is. So,
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's, it's true. There's a huge amount of
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: just working actors that are like, and those are kind
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: of amazing. Like when you really can just continually work
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: from one project to the next and constantly turn in
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: solid performances like that, that, that kind of takes a
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: different level of dedication than somebody who just kind of
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: makes it and gets big and gets like leading roles
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: kind of thrown at them. If, if, It takes you
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: 20 years to get to that point that says something
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: about you. If you never get to that point, it
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: really says something about you.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: I think that there's been a shift in the industry. Obviously,
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: there's been a shift in the industry. Back in the
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: day when the studios controlled everything and we were working
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: under the studio system, then it was to the benefit
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: of the studio heads to really promote somebody because they
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: were loyal to them and they worked for them and they.
• 42:01
  Speaker 11: Were a product.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: Now that people are free agents and they work for
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: various producers and various studios, I think it's more up
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: to the magazines. I mean, that's who stands to gain.
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: So I think it's about pretty faces who interview well.
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: And if the magazine folks think they can sell, then
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: it's to their benefit to endorse them.
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: I can't believe there's still that level of that industry anymore.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Like the print alone is still like, as big a
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: thing as it is. And I think it's just habit.
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: Like I think, especially because most of it is run
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: by advertising. And I think advertisers are so behind the
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: times that they won't latch on to anything internet yet.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: Like they're still like holding on to dear life for
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: those ads that they run every week and every month.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: And it's like, they just, they're so used to that
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: because to me, I'm just like, when's the last time
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: I've bought a magazine? Like, especially like a cheesy star
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: filled man, you know, it's like those, I guess there's
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: still a lot of people that just that's what they buy.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: They go to the grocery and they read that while
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: they're in line and they buy it every week. But
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Like most people I know don't just
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: get those. People don't really subscribe to stuff like they
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: used to. Like it's just the shift has come on
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: both ends of the spectrum there. And it's like the print, again,
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: I can't believe it's dying except for the fact that
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: advertisers won't change and won't realize that like most of
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: the people aren't paying attention to where they're throwing their
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: money now.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: It's not like they're charging us to look at them
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: in the aisles either. We all do that. I won't lie,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: although mostly I try to spend more time looking at
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the sun and other incarnations of Weekly World News because
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: the articles are much more interesting.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: I thought you just meant staring at the sun.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I spend more time staring at the sun than reading
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: about the Kardashians. I can honestly say that's true, actually.
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: That's a better option, truthfully.
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: I imagine they're probably read a lot by cashiers in
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: all night stores.
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: More than likely.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine working an all night job where it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: like the only thing you can read is Us Weekly.
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: It's like a seven level of hell somewhere.
• 44:07
  Speaker 14: And then they have the pipe game music that plays
• 44:09
  Speaker 14: like ten songs over and over. The only thing worse
• 44:13
  Speaker 14: would be like driving an ice cream truck. Pop goes
• 44:18
  Speaker 14: the weasel.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: All day.
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: Just drive you insane.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: There should be laws about that. People shouldn't be subjected.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: There's a reason those guys usually get busted doing something.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Ice cream truck guys?
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you're going to go crazy.
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: There was some actor who told a story about how
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: he'd done that, and his biggest failure, he remembered, was, oh, well,
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: he said, I can't remember who the actor was now,
• 44:42
  Speaker 14: but he said it was like a real test of
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: your morals because every now and then a kid would
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: come out with a giant bill Obviously, he got out
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: of his mom's purse and was like, is this enough
• 44:58
  Speaker 14: to buy?
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: Just enough for this.
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: You can get two with that. You can get two.
• 45:05
  Speaker 14: And then he said also he wrecked the ice cream truck,
• 45:08
  Speaker 14: which you have to be terrible to do that because
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: it only.
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: Goes 35 miles an hour. You have to nod off.
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: I always want a guessing game of who the celebrity is.
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: I feel like the next hour could be us lobbying candidates.
• 45:22
  Speaker 14: It's weird how I remember stories and I don't remember
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: who's attached to them. I don't remember who told the
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: Burt Reynolds joke.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: If you have any answers to these questions, please send
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: them to.
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: Geeks at MovieMeltdown.com.
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: Every now and then something I have to look up.
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: A friend of my daughter said, One day she was like,
• 45:45
  Speaker 14: do you know that movie where there's like a shed
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: and there's a guy who goes into or through a
• 45:52
  Speaker 14: thing or something? And it drove me crazy. And we
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: thought it was a drop dead fret. No, no, it
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: was not. And then we thought it was something else.
• 46:02
  Speaker 14: And it took me like three months and I found
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: out what the movie was. Eventually I, pared it down.
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: I immediately went through Evil Dead 2.
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: Like a detective going over a cold case.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Wicker Man remake.
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah. You just, I don't know.
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: It would be like if the Incredible Inman got that
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: one thing he couldn't solve. And after he came out
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: of retirement and got out his old files and went
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: through them.
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: That's going to be a new show on CBS next year.
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: That would be a good show.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: The Incredible Inman returns.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: The Incredible Inman files.
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: Don't leave us in suspense.
• 46:42
  Speaker 10: What was the scene?
• 46:43
  Speaker 15: I don't remember.
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: This is a story brought to you by Fred. It
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: was some Disney movie.
• 46:49
  Speaker 14: I've got it written down somewhere because at first I
• 46:53
  Speaker 14: thought it was some other movie like a magical... There's
• 46:58
  Speaker 14: a garage and a shed and a guy goes into
• 47:01
  Speaker 14: or through a thing or something.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: That sounded like a Disney movie from the 80s.
• 47:04
  Speaker 10: Magical garage and shed.
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: I've got it somewhere. I'll I'll post it online if
• 47:11
  Speaker 14: anybody cares.
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: Well, that's what I was thinking as you told that story.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: I was like, you just need to take notes is
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: what you need. I have this anecdote. Wait a minute.
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: Let me reference that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: See, I do take notes, but then they're on a
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: hard drive at home. What am I going to carry
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: that around with me?
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: An actual spiral notebook shoved in your pocket at all times.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: That's why Google is your best friend.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I suppose.
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: Some things are just un-Google-able, though. They cannot be Googled.
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: You're trademarking that word right now, right? Don't say it, man.
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: Society rests on faith. Well, I think, again, if you're
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: going by those types, I think it's always been guilty
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: of that, like Hollywood in general. I think almost more
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: than anything, and maybe the male actors back in the
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: day were that. You had those types, and they stuck
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: to those. I mean, Humphrey Bogart was awesome, but did
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: he play anything that wasn't a Humphrey Bogart type? Like
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: they would find a role and be like, this is
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: your role. I can't give this to anybody else. This
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: movie has your name on it. So they were all
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: kind of like that. I mean, Cagney was a very
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: specific type.
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: Spencer Tracy was always Spencer Tracy.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: What's Rhett Butler's name? Oh, Clark Gable. Clark Gable. Yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: Like he, like he could never play anything that wasn't
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Clark Gable, you know? I mean like, Or Cary Grant. Yeah,
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: they had a very specific thing. And I don't know
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: if they just didn't want to stray out of it,
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: or the studios at the time would not let them
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: go outside of it, but it's rare that you get
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: performances from those caliber actors that went in different directions, really.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: And every studio had a different one. We have Cary Grant,
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: and we have this person that looks exactly like Cary Grant,
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: but isn't Cary Grant, but does Cary Grant. But then
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: back in the day, you know, they would do their
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: parade of stars and they'd be like, these are the
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: people that are with our studio this year. And they
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: would actually call attention to the Walter Brennans and the
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: Thelma Ritters. And they were part of their family. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: so I think that character actors did get more attention
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: then just because they were appreciated for filling that niche,
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: whereas today, back to my magazine.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Theory, nobody cares.
• 49:23
  Speaker 14: Today, who's the guy in Hurt Locker who's trying to
• 49:27
  Speaker 14: be an action guy now?
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: He is an actor. They've given him like three franchises.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: He is an action guy.
• 49:32
  Speaker 14: Let's say he is.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Who's awesome.
• 49:34
  Speaker 14: I'm a little worried about him, though. I'm not sure.
• 49:38
  Speaker 14: I just watched that Bourne thing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 15: Oh, yeah. The new one.
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: The Bourne.
• 49:44
  Speaker 16: Really?
• 49:44
  Speaker 10: The Bourne sequel. I'm not sure about him.
• 49:47
  Speaker 14: I don't know if he's doing what he ought to do.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: The Bourne.
• 49:50
  Speaker 14: It does seem like he's decided on the action track,
• 49:55
  Speaker 14: and I'm just like, I don't know, that Hurt Locker thing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: That was a non-action action movie.
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: You add something in that, you don't have going anymore.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got it. That's one of the reasons I
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: like that guy. He's got some depth to him. Also,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: when he was staying up in a couple of the
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: award shows I saw him in, he reminds me of
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: some of those older male Hollywood actors.
• 50:15
  Speaker 10: He seems like a regular guy.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not so clean cut. He looks like he's
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: got some mileage on him, you know? Like, he's been
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: places and done things, actually.
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: And that's what's weird, that they, like.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Chris Pine or something.
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that they, like, cast him when they did, because usually,
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: especially to throw him in all these franchises, they like their, like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: super young leading man so they can get 20 years
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: out of him. He's pretty old. Like, I didn't realize.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Like, if you.
• 50:38
  Speaker 14: Well, seriously.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: He's, like, in his 30s.
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: Well, no, they were bringing him up to be the
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: new Tom Cruise in the Mission Impossible. He's, like, nine
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: years younger than him or something.
• 50:46
  Speaker 20: Like.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: He's barely, you know, if they were going to go
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: super young and bring in a whole new generation, you'd
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: think they'd go like, you know, somebody who's 20, not
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: somebody who's just behind Tom Cruise.
• 50:57
  Speaker 14: I think he might be going the wrong direction.
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: I think he's got a lot more potential with that.
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: Something isn't coming off right.
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: The drama stuff would probably do him better. That's not
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: the money.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: My theory is he's probably just trying to build up
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: a studio base right now. He's trying to be in
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: a number of productions, know some people, get some bank
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: to his name before he can actually start doing some more.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: It's problematic for a lot of actors in today's world
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: because if they break out doing drama, it's possible that
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: they could just stay quietly doing drama for a long time.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: It's really hard to actually get a big name for
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: yourself in dramatic work.
• 51:35
  Speaker 10: Well, see, owe somebody money.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: I mean... Maybe he goes to the dog races a lot.
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: I don't know. Especially in his situation. I would almost
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: say this with any actor. If you can hit that
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: action market, you better do it now. Unless you're Liam Neeson,
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: who waits until he's 60 to become an action star.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: And then is awesome.
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: And is amazing as an action star.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: But every other actor, once you hit 40, they're like,
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: come on, really? People just like to talk trash as
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: soon as they cast you in an action movie. Even
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: though now they keep trying to drag out all the
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: old ones because Expendables 2 made money, but I mean, really,
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: is anybody watching the.
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: I don't know if you're Harrison Ford.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: The Red series.
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: Red at least tapped into that. It was kind of
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: making fun of that whole idea.
• 52:19
  Speaker 16: I don't know.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I want to speak to a little bit about the
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: point about character actors in the past, because I think
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: that's pretty spot on. But, you know, we were talking
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: about Hanna-Barbera earlier.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, we were.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: And how they had, like, this enormous cast of, like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: weird characters and off-ball... Like, That was part of the
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: studio system back in the day because there was that
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: time back when producers like David S. Elznick is the
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: great example from Gone with the Wind. Producers were for
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: years seen as the ultimate architects of films. They were
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: the ones who got the money, picked the director, found
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the cast, et cetera, because they were the moguls of
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: the studio system. And they were the ones who sort
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: of put together a lot of those really epic blockbusters
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: and So, yeah, they tended to hold on to their
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: actors and make them into a kind of a crew
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: that they would then shuttle from film to film and
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: promote them as a group. You know, like, oh, we're
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: looking at the MGM constellation of stars. You know, we're
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: looking at this group or that group. And in the 60s,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: we see the directors rose up and became more important.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: The producers started to be seen as backers of films,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: et cetera. Now, I don't know, if anything, I see
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: now it's just kind of bifurcated because we have Now
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: we have, like, the independent film scene, which tends to
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: put more emphasis on character actors and on more unusual
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. But at the same time, though, we
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: have the sort of atrophied remnants of the studio system
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: that's all about the media and, like, pumping the names, etc. So,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know, that's kind of what I see going on,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: is there's a market for both, but they're no longer
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: seen as part of the same market. Like, either you're
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: watching indie films that are filled with weird character actors or...
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: you're watching some Hollywood blockbuster with Chris Pine. I'm sorry,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm picking on him, but it's true. Come on, he's pretty.
• 54:00
  Speaker 10: He is pretty. I didn't just say that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: I did, I don't care. Based on your example, now
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: all I want is a classic Hollywood version of Laugh-Olympics.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: Somebody get on that, please.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Message from the internet, please, Hollywood.
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: But, I mean, it's kind of true that they've split now,
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: and you really do have that, like, and I think
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: it's also, like, audiences. I think audiences have totally split,
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: and you've got your super artsy crowd that loves the
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: indie movies and won't even sit through one of those
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: mainstream movies. And it's the same attitude from the other end.
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: It's like, I don't want to see them stupid talking movies.
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: I want explosions.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: I want those talkies.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like it is a huge divide that's come
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: between those two crowds.
• 54:47
  Speaker 14: You know, it's so weird that you say that because
• 54:49
  Speaker 14: the other night, Because I'm on a different schedule. I
• 54:52
  Speaker 14: had to transition in a weekend from an early morning
• 54:56
  Speaker 14: to a late night schedule.
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: Which is why Fritz disappeared lately. So we're glad to
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: have you back, by the way.
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: So I'm glad to be back.
• 55:03
  Speaker 14: I'm glad to have survived the whole thing.
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: But it came down to this weekend.
• 55:08
  Speaker 14: And what I was going to do was stay up
• 55:10
  Speaker 14: late so I could sleep in and adjust my schedule.
• 55:13
  Speaker 14: And I thought, I want to watch something with explosions
• 55:17
  Speaker 14: and shit.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: And.
• 55:18
  Speaker 14: Something that will hold my interest. And I tried to
• 55:20
  Speaker 14: find something streaming online that I could watch. And I
• 55:24
  Speaker 14: couldn't find it. Because everything I really knew I liked,
• 55:28
  Speaker 14: I had seen already. And Skyfall wasn't on DVD yet.
• 55:35
  Speaker 14: I was looking forward to that. It's coming out in
• 55:37
  Speaker 14: a few days. And I tried to find something. And
• 55:41
  Speaker 14: I couldn't keep my eyes. I tried to watch The Expendables.
• 55:45
  Speaker 14: Which I thought was like a bunch of action guys
• 55:48
  Speaker 14: doing something. But no, it was all Sylvester Stallone.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 10: It was all Sylvester.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: And I couldn't watch it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: Well, who made that movie is the real question. Whose
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: baby is that? Oh, wait.
• 55:57
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: It's my movie.
• 55:59
  Speaker 14: I couldn't watch it. Then I tried to find something else.
• 56:01
  Speaker 14: I couldn't keep my eyes. So I wound up watching.
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: Fish Tank.
• 56:09
  Speaker 14: Tie in.
• 56:10
  Speaker 10: And that kept me up.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: Which, you know... it's a great movie.
• 56:15
  Speaker 14: I really liked it, but the pace is just glacial.
• 56:19
  Speaker 14: It's like watching a slug move across a lawn, but
• 56:23
  Speaker 14: that held my interest. I couldn't find a movie with
• 56:27
  Speaker 14: explosions or anything because all the good ones I've seen
• 56:30
  Speaker 14: already and all the others are just too tired.
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: Well, that one you substituted explosions for cursing. Yeah. Cause
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: you get about it is.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: So that's, that's what I watched to stay up.
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: Um, So you don't fall into most people's thinking. But
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: I think we all do that, really.
• 56:50
  Speaker 10: I tried. That's the point.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: I tried to be dumb. I really did.
• 56:54
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I wanted to say something, but I just couldn't
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: stay awake.
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: Sylvester Stallone. Oh, my God.
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: Have you been to the Sylvester Stallone?
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: Museums?
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: Yes, I have actually many times.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Where is this one? Is it on Jupiter also?
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: Sorry, in Jupiter?
• 57:18
  Speaker 14: I imagine it has like a giant row of courthouse steps.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: So that you too can experience the pleasure of running
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: up the steps and rocking.
• 57:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the famous tracking shot.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: I do that every time I go up my stairs
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: at home. Jump up and down at the top.
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: I'd just drink a bunch of raw eggs.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's recommended anymore.
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: You're not supposed to.
• 57:44
  Speaker 21: Okay, kids, we're actually just getting started on this conversation.
• 57:47
  Speaker 21: But this topic is just too much to be contained
• 57:50
  Speaker 21: in one episode. So we're going to cap it off here,
• 57:52
  Speaker 21: and when we return, we're going to continue on this
• 57:54
  Speaker 21: road to stardom. So tune in next time where you'll
• 57:57
  Speaker 21: hear intriguing remarks like these.
• 57:59
  Speaker 14: Come on, let's rag on stars. That's the whole point
• 58:02
  Speaker 14: of this question.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Guys, that third movie was terrible. Like, I directed it.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: It was terrible.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: And it was y'all's fault.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: So here's the idea.
• 58:14
  Speaker 14: For some reason, my mind wandered and I started thinking
• 58:17
  Speaker 14: of those celebrities who were on Match Game.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Obviously, they didn't see me there.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: You were waiting.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, waiting.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: Gollum-like behind a chair.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Of course, it's always Gollum-like.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: They hear me when I talk to myself.
• 58:31
  Speaker 14: Like, remember Chris O'Donnell?
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 58:36
  Speaker 14: Isn't it weird just to remember somebody like that?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I would just take a moment. We just don't think
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: you're really there, you know? We don't think you have
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: that you-ness that we need.
• 58:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah, there are parts of it, I think, that are
• 58:48
  Speaker 14: pretty horrible.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: But.
• 58:51
  Speaker 14: I still kind of root for the movie. And the
• 58:54
  Speaker 14: other thing that was weird about him is he was
• 58:56
  Speaker 14: in that famous circus fire.
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: I was actually, here's a Margot Hemingway story. No one
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: saw this one coming.
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but he was a spectacular failure.
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 14: It's not everybody can do that. It's easy to be
• 59:12
  Speaker 14: like a run-of-the-mill failure. He was a spectacular failure.
• 59:18
  Speaker 21: All this and more on the next Starfield episode of
• 59:21
  Speaker 21: Movie Meltdown.
• 59:28
  Speaker 13: Check the crippled man sitting in the church. My conscience hurts.
• 59:32
  Speaker 13: Flesh like me hits the dirt. She's paralyzed from her
• 59:35
  Speaker 13: feet to her thighs. And the man who pulled the
• 59:37
  Speaker 13: trigger didn't even lose his left eye. Check Jimmy cutting
• 59:40
  Speaker 13: hair at.
• 59:41
  Speaker 16: The barber shop.
• 59:41
  Speaker 13: He plays the bass guitar like David plays the harp.
• 59:44
  Speaker 13: His knowledge name is Greek. Because whenever he speaks, he's
• 59:47
  Speaker 13: got the wisdom of King Solomon. Bags in his eyes
• 59:49
  Speaker 13: from no sleep. Sometimes he thought of the fame in
• 59:51
  Speaker 13: Madison Square Garden. So some seek stardom, but they forget Harlem.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: But she gave first of all.
• 59:56
  Speaker 13: The kingdom of God. That's what my pops told me.
• 59:58
  Speaker 13: So if I fall, could.
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: The choir catch me?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 13: I flew away on a mountain, got tempted by Satan,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 13: got bitten by a cobra, but the Lord took.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: My bend up.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 13: So whose side am I on? I'm on the righteous.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 13: Always check the lyrics. No time to contradiction.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: Some seek stardom, then they forget Harlem.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Some seek stardom, then they forget Harlem.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 13: They keep their pockets full, but their souls run empty. Well,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 13: I'm your family, I beseech you, in hopes that I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 13: may reach you. My mother told me one day that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 13: judgment day would come someday. Born an adult black child
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 13: with geeky hair, grown wise, and teachers just like me.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 13: Cause I knew what my culture be. So now you're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 13: my brief history. I can't neglect my passion, see. Rockin's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 13: kinda new to me, cause my true love was poetry.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 13: White was good and black was black, but black was
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 13: us and us. We'll be right back. when i enter
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 13: your vicinity you see my girl he never asked of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 13: me to show i knew i was free to go
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 13: and be but alas i clearly see what's wrong with
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: me you did your insecurity of me and my ability
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: so really won't you let me be your has to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 13: ask too much from that to tell the truth and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 13: not the lie oh my Brothers keep their pockets full,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 13: but their souls run empty.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: Some say stardom, then it will get harder. Some say stardom,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: then it will get harder.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 11: Some say stardom.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 13: I got mine, I want you, get yours. We never
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 13: open doors that we neglect. And don't protect the ones
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 13: that's left. People never really seem to care. And then
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 13: they cry out, my people, why aren't we treated.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Equal as we flee?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 13: We flee our own communities. We leave our family in poverty.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 13: And then we blame it on another. So family, please recover.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 13: Walk a least, man, you're coming, you can blow now
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 13: if you want till we're through. Families keep their pockets
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 13: full but their souls run empty.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 19: People keep their pockets full but their souls run empty.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 12: We keep our pockets full.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: But our souls run empty.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: Stop it. We need one of those Bieber whatever.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: Everybody needs a little Bieber in their life. Come on, man.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: So says the Prince of Darkness.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: Thank you. I've already been recognized for it, truly.
• 1:03:05
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• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:16
  Speaker 13: Talk hard!