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- 0:02Speaker 1: On Scylands Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the reader Panehy show. Coming
- 0:12Speaker 2: up tonight.
- 0:13Speaker 3: The Albanezy government under renewed pressure to increase defense spending.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Dan Wilde would be here to discuss the day's.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Top headlines, including the ABC squandering more than a million
- 0:23Speaker 3: dollars in taxpayer money on unnecessary legal fees.
- 0:27Speaker 2: The Great Douglas Murray.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Joins me shortly with a message for self loathing lefties
- 0:31Speaker 3: in the West. M Horowitz will have the latest from
- 0:35Speaker 3: the US, and later in the hour Kinsey Schofield will
- 0:38Speaker 3: tell us why George Clooney was rubbing shoulders with King
- 0:42Speaker 3: Charles and left is losing it features this charmer stopped.
- 0:48Speaker 4: Come on my page and say that people should be
- 0:51Speaker 4: in this contrivilibly.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Don't do it. This is ridiculous, it's inhuman.
- 0:56Speaker 3: But first, the Australian government is under intense pressure to
- 1:00Speaker 3: increase defense spending after NATO leaders back Donald Trump's increase
- 1:05Speaker 3: spending demands. Despite many NATO leaders agree to spend five
- 1:09Speaker 3: percent of their respective GDPs on defense, the Albinezer government
- 1:13Speaker 3: is refusing requests to lift our defense spending to three
- 1:17Speaker 3: point five percent of GDP. Let's bring in Deputy executive
- 1:22Speaker 3: director at the Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild. Dan
- 1:26Speaker 3: is Australian danger of becoming an outlier here, We're becoming
- 1:30Speaker 3: some sort of a recalcitrant ally that is not doing
- 1:34Speaker 3: our bit for defense.
- 1:39Speaker 5: Well that's right, rider, Yes we are in danger of
- 1:41Speaker 5: becoming an outlier.
- 1:42Speaker 6: We probably already are one.
- 1:44Speaker 5: And look, the point here is that, yes, we need
- 1:47Speaker 5: to increase our defense spending as a percentage of our GDP,
- 1:51Speaker 5: and yes we need to make sure that that is
- 1:54Speaker 5: being spent on more effective things. But we shouldn't just
- 1:57Speaker 5: be doing it because the United States or Donald Trump
- 1:59Speaker 5: has requested it of us.
- 2:01Speaker 6: We need to do it for its own sake.
- 2:03Speaker 5: We have been underspending and under investing in our defense
- 2:07Speaker 5: capabilities for a long time now, and so we need
- 2:10Speaker 5: to make sure that we're catching up.
- 2:12Speaker 6: We also need to make.
- 2:13Speaker 5: Sure that we are a reliable ally to the United
- 2:16Speaker 5: States and our other Western partners, which we have not been.
- 2:19Speaker 6: And I think a part.
- 2:20Speaker 5: Of this reason REATA is because there is a very
- 2:22Speaker 5: anti American sentiment that exists in sections of the Labor Party,
- 2:27Speaker 5: and there is certainly an anti Donald Trump sentiment that exists.
- 2:32Speaker 5: And look, Trump, whether you like him or not, he's
- 2:33Speaker 5: not going to be president in three and a half
- 2:35Speaker 5: years time. So you've got to get along with the
- 2:37Speaker 5: president that's there at the moment, and too many within
- 2:41Speaker 5: the Labor Party are not interested in doing that.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Well, the way things are going in the US, we're
- 2:48Speaker 3: likely to see a president JD. Van So they think
- 2:51Speaker 3: things are kind of changing in America, they'll be sadly mistaken. Now,
- 2:55Speaker 3: this was very interesting, I thought during Donald Trump's press
- 2:58Speaker 3: conference in the early hours of this morning at NATO,
- 3:02Speaker 3: where he noted that Spain was one of the countries
- 3:05Speaker 3: that refused to abide by his increased spending demands and
- 3:10Speaker 3: Donald Trump had a remedy for that. And I think
- 3:14Speaker 3: the Albaneza government should pay very careful attention to these comments.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Of course, you know a Spain.
- 3:19Speaker 7: Are you satisfied with today?
- 3:21Speaker 8: Oh?
- 3:22Speaker 9: I think Spain's are terrible what they've done, No, I do.
- 3:25Speaker 9: They're the only country that won't pay the full up
- 3:28Speaker 9: they want to stay at two percent. I think it's terrible.
- 3:30Speaker 9: And you know, they're doing very well. The economy is
- 3:32Speaker 9: very well, and that economy could be blown right out
- 3:35Speaker 9: of the water with something bad happening. Know, Spain is
- 3:38Speaker 9: the only country that are you from Spain, good congratulations.
- 3:42Speaker 9: You're the only country that is not paying. I don't
- 3:45Speaker 9: know what the problem is. It's I think it's too bad.
- 3:48Speaker 9: So we'll make it up. You know what we're going
- 3:49Speaker 9: to do. We're negotiating with Spain on a trade deal.
- 3:52Speaker 9: We're going to make them pay twice as much. And
- 3:54Speaker 9: I'm actually serious about there.
- 3:56Speaker 3: You go, well make it up. Is that what Australia
- 3:59Speaker 3: can look for or what do I wonder? And we
- 4:01Speaker 3: haven't yet negotiated a trade deal, a a deal on
- 4:06Speaker 3: tariffs with the US. And I do wonder whether our
- 4:10Speaker 3: reluctance to do anything about our defense spending is part
- 4:13Speaker 3: of the reason Donald Trump is refusing to meet for
- 4:15Speaker 3: the Anthony Now been easy.
- 4:19Speaker 5: I think that's likely. And you know Trump has used
- 4:22Speaker 5: and even said this. He said this repeatedly, that one
- 4:26Speaker 5: of the purposes of tariffs is to get revenue, and
- 4:29Speaker 5: the other purpose of tariffs is to use it as
- 4:31Speaker 5: leverage and as a bargaining chip for other matters. He's
- 4:34Speaker 5: been very explicit about that. So it shouldn't come as
- 4:36Speaker 5: a surprise that that's exactly what he's doing, or what
- 4:38Speaker 5: he said he's going to do in the case of Spain.
- 4:40Speaker 6: So yes, we need to be aware of that.
- 4:42Speaker 5: But like I said before, whether Trump was president, whether
- 4:45Speaker 5: Kamala Harris or Joe Biden or anyone, we needed to
- 4:48Speaker 5: increase our defense spending no matter what. And like I say,
- 4:52Speaker 5: we need to spend it on more effective things like drones,
- 4:54Speaker 5: for example, And I don't understand why we don't have
- 4:56Speaker 5: that capability in our country. So, you know, whatever the
- 4:59Speaker 5: US president that says, he'll say, but we need to
- 5:02Speaker 5: do the right thing for our country, which means increasing
- 5:04Speaker 5: our defense spending.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Now let's hear from the Senator for Sea Patrol, as
- 5:10Speaker 3: some have called her, her thoughts on the US president.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Here is the Greens Sarah Hanson Young.
- 5:17Speaker 10: I think the world is a much more unstable and
- 5:20Speaker 10: insecure place with Donald Trump as US president.
- 5:25Speaker 2: He is dangerous.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And on one.
- 5:27Speaker 10: Hand, you just say, oh, he's just a medium megalomaniac,
- 5:30Speaker 10: it's just all about the attention. I think that's true,
- 5:33Speaker 10: But I also think he's very dangerous and I think.
- 5:35Speaker 2: His far right views, his.
- 5:38Speaker 10: Erraticness, together with his obsession with attention makes the world
- 5:43Speaker 10: a really unsafe place.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Dan, what's your response to that.
- 5:50Speaker 5: Well, I think the problem here is there's just a
- 5:52Speaker 5: series of assertions without any substance. I mean, what are
- 5:56Speaker 5: the far right views that Donald Trump holds? Is removing
- 5:59Speaker 5: nuclear facilities from Iran? A far right view? Is securing
- 6:03Speaker 5: your borders. A far right view is having an alternative
- 6:07Speaker 5: economic system that brings manufacturing back to your country a
- 6:10Speaker 5: far right view. What exactly are the far right views
- 6:13Speaker 5: that Donald Trump is claim to hold and this idea
- 6:17Speaker 5: that he's erratic and so forth. I mean, maybe he is,
- 6:20Speaker 5: maybe he isn't, But I just think that it's a
- 6:23Speaker 5: strategy that he uses to try to get the outcomes
- 6:26Speaker 5: that he wants.
- 6:27Speaker 6: So I think it is unhelpful.
- 6:29Speaker 5: To have a senator to be making these claims on
- 6:33Speaker 5: like a very personal level. I mean, you're entitled to
- 6:35Speaker 5: have your views and to express them, but to be
- 6:38Speaker 5: sort of having a personal attack on the United States president,
- 6:42Speaker 5: I think doesn't help our country. And like I say,
- 6:44Speaker 5: those comments, which is more entitled to make, but they
- 6:47Speaker 5: don't have any substance, and they're sort of based upon
- 6:50Speaker 5: really the vibe of it rather than pointing to any
- 6:52Speaker 5: think concrete, Yes.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Just intellectually vacuous. And the Greens are the government's coalition partners.
- 7:02Speaker 3: They've got their balance of power in the Upper House.
- 7:05Speaker 3: They are going to be working together undoubtedly throughout this term.
- 7:09Speaker 3: So it's also reckless in many ways to be making
- 7:12Speaker 3: comments like that, and she went on to question the
- 7:14Speaker 3: alliance Australia has with the US. Now I want to
- 7:18Speaker 3: move on to the ABC. A Federal court judge has
- 7:21Speaker 3: found that journalist Antoinette Latoufe was unfairly sacked by the
- 7:25Speaker 3: ABC midway through her five day radio contract. Latoufas claimed
- 7:32Speaker 3: she was unlawfully dismissed by the ABC in December of
- 7:36Speaker 3: twenty twenty three after she reshared an Instagram post about
- 7:39Speaker 3: the war in Gaza which accused Israel of using starvation
- 7:43Speaker 3: as a weapon of war.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Daniel, It's worth.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Noting here that the ABC sacked her, but it has
- 7:51Speaker 3: protected and stood by more high profile reporters. And I
- 7:55Speaker 3: think just as importantly, they spent one point one million
- 7:59Speaker 3: dollars of our money defending this case when they could
- 8:03Speaker 3: have settled it for eighty five thousand dollars.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Where is the accountability here?
- 8:10Speaker 6: Well, exactly.
- 8:11Speaker 5: I mean to me, this is a case of can't
- 8:13Speaker 5: they both lose? And I think it's you know, the
- 8:17Speaker 5: ABC is you know, you live by the sword and
- 8:20Speaker 5: you die by the sword. You know, the ABC has
- 8:23Speaker 5: a history of trying to silence those that don't share
- 8:28Speaker 5: its worldview. It's clearly a double standard, as you've rightly
- 8:32Speaker 5: pointed out that they've stood by other high profile hosts
- 8:36Speaker 5: or so called journalists and reporters, but haven't done so
- 8:40Speaker 5: in this case. And as you also say, well, it's
- 8:43Speaker 5: not their money, it's it's our money. It's the tax
- 8:46Speaker 5: pays money that has gone into this case. So you know,
- 8:50Speaker 5: the ABC likes to hold itself up as being this
- 8:53Speaker 5: sort of beacon of impartiality, of being above the fray,
- 8:56Speaker 5: of you know, being an important sort of beacon of
- 9:00Speaker 5: truth in our society. But you know, when it comes
- 9:04Speaker 5: down to it, they are hypocritical and there is clearly
- 9:07Speaker 5: a double standard that applies here. But you know, like
- 9:09Speaker 5: I say, it's lived by the sword, die by the sword.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Now staying in Victoria, Melbourne street sweeper sacked by Daribin
- 9:19Speaker 3: City Council after objecting to acknowledgment of country announcements well
- 9:24Speaker 3: here's one his unfair dismissal case. Shawn Turner told the
- 9:28Speaker 3: meeting that if you need to be thanking anyone, it's
- 9:31Speaker 3: the people who have worn the uniform and fought for
- 9:34Speaker 3: our country to keep us free.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Daniel.
- 9:38Speaker 3: It's just absolutely appalling that he had to take legal
- 9:43Speaker 3: action to protect his rights. I think this is just
- 9:46Speaker 3: shameful behavior from Darbin Council.
- 9:51Speaker 5: Oh, it was that absolute disgrace. And you know, this
- 9:54Speaker 5: street sweeper is an absolute hero. I mean he is.
- 9:57Speaker 5: What he has said is what the vast majority of
- 10:01Speaker 5: mainstream Australians believe.
- 10:02Speaker 6: I mean, this guy should.
- 10:03Speaker 5: Be the leader of the liberal factly, you know, he's
- 10:06Speaker 5: got a finger on the pulse on these issues. So
- 10:09Speaker 5: you know, the idea that someone should be sacked for
- 10:13Speaker 5: saying this show is not only how out of touch
- 10:15Speaker 5: that particular council is, but you know it's this broader
- 10:18Speaker 5: thing of the activist left will shout you down, they'll
- 10:22Speaker 5: kick you out of your job, they'll take your money,
- 10:25Speaker 5: they'll ruin your reputation if you don't sign up to
- 10:28Speaker 5: their divisive social activism. So look, I hope that this
- 10:33Speaker 5: is yet another example of how mainstream Australians have just
- 10:37Speaker 5: had an absolute gutful of the overuse of welcome the
- 10:40Speaker 5: country and acknowledgment of country ceremonies. And to be honest,
- 10:43Speaker 5: I just think it's time to put the practice to
- 10:45Speaker 5: bed and do something that can unify us as a
- 10:48Speaker 5: society rather than doing what's you know, ultimately dividing us.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Well.
- 10:53Speaker 3: I do recall Professor Marshall Langton saying that if the
- 10:56Speaker 3: voice was defeated, we would have no more of these
- 11:00Speaker 3: welcome to countries.
- 11:00Speaker 2: But here we are.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And on Marshall Langton, she has proclaimed her new art
- 11:06Speaker 3: exhibition in Melbourne as anti colonial. Dan, will you be
- 11:11Speaker 3: rushing to see this exhibition? It's called sixty five thousand
- 11:15Speaker 3: Years A Short History of Australian Art.
- 11:21Speaker 5: No, I think my invite got lost in the mail
- 11:23Speaker 5: or something like that to go there. Look, I think
- 11:27Speaker 5: the problem the problem reader is like Aboriginal art. There's
- 11:31Speaker 5: nothing wrong at all with Aboriginal art and it's got
- 11:34Speaker 5: a lot to contribute and I think a lot of
- 11:36Speaker 5: people have an interest in it.
- 11:38Speaker 6: The issue here is when you turn.
- 11:40Speaker 5: It explicitly into political activism, which is what Marshall Langton
- 11:44Speaker 5: is doing. But most people just get immediately turned off
- 11:47Speaker 5: by it. I mean, if you're a regular person and
- 11:49Speaker 5: then you see this, this is an anti colonial exhibition,
- 11:52Speaker 5: well you're not going to rock up to it. What
- 11:54Speaker 5: would you rock up to? Be brat and basically called
- 11:57Speaker 5: a racist? Now, I think it's a shame because art
- 12:00Speaker 5: should unite us. It should be something that can speak
- 12:03Speaker 5: to enduring values and a shared experience of the human condition.
- 12:07Speaker 5: And certainly our aboriginal art can do that, just as
- 12:09Speaker 5: all art can when it's done in in its most
- 12:11Speaker 5: excellent form. So again it's another example of how really
- 12:15Speaker 5: a pathetic you know, a pathetic social activist is just
- 12:18Speaker 5: trying to drive another wedge into our society.
- 12:22Speaker 3: Dan wil thank you for your time tonight, joining me
- 12:25Speaker 3: now is the best selling author of groundbreaking books, including
- 12:29Speaker 3: The War on the West, The Strange Death of Europe,
- 12:32Speaker 3: and his latest on democracies and death cults.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, welcome back.
- 12:38Speaker 3: One of your best sellers is called The Strange Death
- 12:41Speaker 3: of Europe, and we about to see the Strange.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Death of New York.
- 12:46Speaker 3: With a radical Socialists or On Mandani winning the city's
- 12:51Speaker 3: democratic mayoral primary, it.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Is quite extraordinary. Mandani was thought of such a rank
- 13:01Speaker 1: outlier and such a fringe figure such as sort of
- 13:04Speaker 1: student politician, as well as being a very very radical
- 13:10Speaker 1: figure that people didn't really seem to think you could
- 13:12Speaker 1: possibly get this far. Yet here he is winning the primary.
- 13:18Speaker 1: This is somebody who has repeatedly shown himself to be
- 13:22Speaker 1: a sort of sub AOC style radical leftist. He has
- 13:30Speaker 1: terrible track record, in fact, he doesn't have much of
- 13:32Speaker 1: a track work record and actually performing at anything, but
- 13:36Speaker 1: he's got a horrible track record of statements. That was
- 13:39Speaker 1: recently asked his views about one of the slogans about
- 13:43Speaker 1: eradicating the Jewish state and just seemed not really to
- 13:47Speaker 1: have anything much to say in condemning that. And New
- 13:51Speaker 1: Yorkers are understandably getting worried. New York has taken a
- 13:55Speaker 1: heck of a battering in recent years as radical left policies,
- 14:01Speaker 1: including from the Biden eras border policies led to migrant
- 14:06Speaker 1: waves into New York, that the COVID policies led to
- 14:11Speaker 1: an incredible exodus from the city of wealthy people and others.
- 14:16Speaker 1: You know, it's a question can New York really cope
- 14:20Speaker 1: with a term under such a radical figure, or will
- 14:24Speaker 1: New York just stop being New York effectively. I mean,
- 14:27Speaker 1: as we've said many times, retail. You know, there's no
- 14:29Speaker 1: law in nature that means that a country or a
- 14:32Speaker 1: city just remains at the peak forever if it keeps
- 14:36Speaker 1: on being battered by politicians who hated.
- 14:41Speaker 3: And we've seen the decline in many Western cities are
- 14:45Speaker 3: great cities, and it's sad to see, particularly a place
- 14:49Speaker 3: like New York. But ma'am, Darnie does have plenty of
- 14:53Speaker 3: high profile supporters, from supermodels to popular streamers.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Let's hear from just a couple of them.
- 15:00Speaker 11: Text to your friends and family, because we need everybody
- 15:02Speaker 11: to come out and make sure you're drinking water.
- 15:04Speaker 1: If this's a very.
- 15:04Speaker 7: Hunted this election is going to be decided by young voters.
- 15:07Speaker 7: The average New Yorker is thirty eight years old.
- 15:09Speaker 5: The last mayoral race was decided by seven thousand voters.
- 15:13Speaker 7: That means that your vote really matters.
- 15:15Speaker 11: I supported him because he's the only non Zionist candidate
- 15:18Speaker 11: on that stage.
- 15:19Speaker 12: I thought he needed to be bond and sold. But
- 15:20Speaker 12: people are energetic, people aren't tired of Zionism, and I'm excited.
- 15:24Speaker 2: To see what he's got.
- 15:24Speaker 6: I'm not a socialist myself.
- 15:26Speaker 12: I don't want everyone to be a communist getting free stuff,
- 15:28Speaker 12: but I think he has some cool ideas.
- 15:30Speaker 2: There you go.
- 15:31Speaker 3: He doesn't like the fact that he's a communist who
- 15:34Speaker 3: wants governments to run supermarkets, but he hates Zionism. So
- 15:39Speaker 3: he got Sneako's vote.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And he had certainly got Emily's vote.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, isn't it extraordinary He's running to be
- 15:47Speaker 1: mayor of New York and the things he's really best
- 15:50Speaker 1: known for is his anti Israel activism. But of course
- 15:55Speaker 1: that attracts a certain type of person, as we just saw.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Imagine though, I mean, this is an election to do
- 16:02Speaker 1: with a mayor who can oversee quite a lot of
- 16:05Speaker 1: stuff to do with the running of the city. But
- 16:08Speaker 1: the mayor of New York doesn't have a foreign policy.
- 16:12Speaker 1: So isn't it revealing when people like that that that
- 16:16Speaker 1: guy there, sneak O. Isn't it? Yeah? That he he says,
- 16:21Speaker 1: I like because he's he's not a Zionist. Well that
- 16:24Speaker 1: that just means that that he gets the support of
- 16:28Speaker 1: people who think, great, this guy doesn't like Jews. I
- 16:32Speaker 1: don't like Jews. Let's vote for him, because what else
- 16:34Speaker 1: does it mean, what, what's what's not being a Zionist
- 16:38Speaker 1: got to do with being mayor of New York. Only
- 16:42Speaker 1: that Mandani has repeatedly demonstrated his own prejudices. And by
- 16:47Speaker 1: the way, I will predict reata with considerable certainty, and
- 16:51Speaker 1: we can lay a bed on this that any criticism
- 16:54Speaker 1: of Mandani in the coming days and weeks will be
- 16:57Speaker 1: batted back by him and his support as being in
- 17:01Speaker 1: some way bigoted, as if criticizing a bigot is in
- 17:05Speaker 1: some way itself the problem. They will say, he's a Muslim,
- 17:09Speaker 1: he's a recent immigrant. How dare you say anything against him?
- 17:12Speaker 1: And that will, I guarantee be the playbook it will
- 17:15Speaker 1: run on.
- 17:18Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. I'm not having that bet because you
- 17:21Speaker 2: would win it.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Now I want to take you to London, where pro
- 17:25Speaker 3: Palestinian supporters continue to clash with the police.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Let's have a look. Now.
- 17:39Speaker 3: These were members or supporters of the Palestine Action Group
- 17:43Speaker 3: at Trafalgar Square. Now this group is expected to be
- 17:46Speaker 3: banned Douglas by the government, prescribed as a terrorist organization
- 17:51Speaker 3: after its members allegedly vandalized two planes at an RAF base.
- 17:57Speaker 3: How do you see the way Western governments have handled
- 18:01Speaker 3: this uprising since October seven, particularly the British, because they've
- 18:07Speaker 3: seem to have been particularly weak.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're all weak reta and it's because
- 18:13Speaker 1: they don't know what to do. They've imported large populations
- 18:16Speaker 1: of people who have brought their own sectarian politics to
- 18:20Speaker 1: countries like Britain. Whether it's to do with Kashmir, Pakistani
- 18:26Speaker 1: populations who've come to the UK or bang on about Kashmir,
- 18:29Speaker 1: or the same people and others who will bang on
- 18:31Speaker 1: about Middle Eastern politics, they've just brought their rife ethnic
- 18:35Speaker 1: and religious hatreds with them, and the British state, like
- 18:38Speaker 1: so many other countries, doesn't know what to do now
- 18:40Speaker 1: other than do a bit of kumbaya. Why don't we
- 18:42Speaker 1: all love the multi culty society bit. But actually, these
- 18:47Speaker 1: people we're seeing there, I mean they call themselves Palestine
- 18:51Speaker 1: Action and they attack RAF bases. They're just a combination
- 18:57Speaker 1: of two groups of people radical mostly and absolutely hollowed
- 19:04Speaker 1: out Western far leftists who believe that their life will
- 19:08Speaker 1: have some kind of meaning if they pretend that the palestinees,
- 19:13Speaker 1: if that's a thing, a name, a place, a state,
- 19:18Speaker 1: should be foremost in all of their concerns, and you know,
- 19:21Speaker 1: it's a very interesting test for a country like Britain.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Can the police and others actually rein in radical groups
- 19:28Speaker 1: who bring our cities to a halt because of imported
- 19:32Speaker 1: bigotries and hatreds or will they just continue to allow
- 19:36Speaker 1: them to run riot. So far they've just allowed them
- 19:39Speaker 1: to run riot. We'll see, But if Arma were to
- 19:43Speaker 1: ban them, that would seem to me to be a
- 19:45Speaker 1: very good thing. You know, no other groups are allowed
- 19:48Speaker 1: to shut down cities repeatedly, be hooligans, deface things, invade
- 19:53Speaker 1: military bases and much more. I think there should be
- 19:56Speaker 1: a price for that, and I'm very happy if Palestine
- 19:59Speaker 1: action goes same way as the people they admire so
- 20:01Speaker 1: much and get prescribed like Hamas and other terrorist groups.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Now, Douglas, I've always made the argument that if you
- 20:10Speaker 3: don't like the West and its values, then don't emigrate there.
- 20:14Speaker 3: If you want to see Shariah law, then there are
- 20:16Speaker 3: plenty of Muslim majority countries you could live in.
- 20:19Speaker 2: But I want to play the.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Response to that argument from a character called Shakil Afsa,
- 20:25Speaker 3: who did very well. I've got to say the last
- 20:28Speaker 3: general election in the UK, in the Hall Green constituency
- 20:31Speaker 3: in Birmingham. He got the second largest vote running as
- 20:35Speaker 3: an independent.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Let's have a listen, City.
- 20:38Speaker 13: Of Birmingham will not tolerate the disrespect of our profit.
- 20:41Speaker 13: Peace be upon him and there will be outcomes from
- 20:44Speaker 13: your actions. You will have repercussions for your actions. We
- 20:48Speaker 13: have been trained from Bert that we must befriend the
- 20:50Speaker 13: honor of our profit and we will let our life
- 20:52Speaker 13: on the line.
- 20:53Speaker 12: Okay, you know the other argument is okay, so if
- 20:55Speaker 12: you don't like it here, I go to your own confu.
- 20:57Speaker 11: But why would we do that when our fathers were
- 21:00Speaker 11: instrumental in rebuilding this country after World War Two? It
- 21:04Speaker 11: was our grandfathers who worked in the factory twenty twenty hours,
- 21:07Speaker 11: it was our grandfathers who came here, and it was
- 21:10Speaker 11: our grandfathers who brought you the.
- 21:11Speaker 12: Lovely Coreer, which is a national dish.
- 21:13Speaker 11: So how can you tell us to go. We're not
- 21:15Speaker 11: going nowhere.
- 21:16Speaker 1: We are here to stay.
- 21:17Speaker 11: Like I said, we're not here to take part. We're
- 21:19Speaker 11: here to take all that.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Douglas, what's your response to that?
- 21:22Speaker 3: The argument is their forefathers helped rebuild the UK and
- 21:26Speaker 3: they're entitled to take over.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Well, he can scram. As far as I'm concerned, my
- 21:31Speaker 1: forefathers did a lot more, for a lot longer than his.
- 21:35Speaker 1: And if he wants to talk about the importance of
- 21:38Speaker 1: Pakistani labor in the post war period, very happy that
- 21:43Speaker 1: other British people go head to head and point out
- 21:45Speaker 1: what our forebears did for a lot longer and a
- 21:48Speaker 1: lot better to actually build Britain. Britain isn't built on
- 21:52Speaker 1: a couple of generations of immigration. It's built on centuries,
- 21:57Speaker 1: in fact, millennia of men women who did extraordinary things.
- 22:02Speaker 1: And to watch that being trampled on by this person,
- 22:05Speaker 1: I just will play it around any other way. If
- 22:09Speaker 1: a white British person were to go to Pakistan and
- 22:12Speaker 1: say I'm very sorry, but actually my forbears built this country,
- 22:16Speaker 1: not you, and I'll do whatever I want and we'll
- 22:19Speaker 1: have a kind of white takeover of Pakistan or anything
- 22:22Speaker 1: like that, it would be absolutely condemned by everyone. It
- 22:25Speaker 1: wouldn't be tolerated at all. I just fed up of
- 22:29Speaker 1: hearing demagogues like that. I'm sorry, the country doesn't belong
- 22:34Speaker 1: to him and people like him, and I hope he
- 22:37Speaker 1: doesn't push the British people as much as he's trying
- 22:41Speaker 1: to because he might not like what he gets back.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Well, what I say, Douglas, I'm as worried about the
- 22:48Speaker 3: self loathing generations we are breeding in the West as
- 22:52Speaker 3: much as those coming from far away lands who want
- 22:55Speaker 3: to change the West. Watch what these young men say
- 22:59Speaker 3: when asked whether they would fight for their country.
- 23:02Speaker 14: Let me tell you this, I would fight against the UK,
- 23:05Speaker 14: I would probably say, no, you.
- 23:07Speaker 11: Don't think I would.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Why would you fight against the UK?
- 23:10Speaker 10: Because I would like the world to be liberated from
- 23:13Speaker 10: Western imperialism.
- 23:14Speaker 7: I would fight against this country in.
- 23:16Speaker 1: The war.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Liberated from Western imperialism.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Douglas, how do we get here?
- 23:24Speaker 1: First of all, that soyboy you just saw, I'm not
- 23:27Speaker 1: sure he'd be much used in any arm I can't
- 23:31Speaker 1: see him storming any beaches or climbing any ramparts. So
- 23:36Speaker 1: it's purely hypothetical for him. It's just a statement of
- 23:42Speaker 1: the Basically, he's saying that because he's been taught to
- 23:45Speaker 1: say it, and he doesn't have a mind to his own.
- 23:49Speaker 1: He's just repeating a sort of man trey he's been
- 23:51Speaker 1: taught in some secondary university or college or something like
- 23:56Speaker 1: that about colonialism and everything else in Western imperiod. It's
- 24:00Speaker 1: all just such dated stuff by now. And of course,
- 24:04Speaker 1: you know, those of us who watch people like that
- 24:06Speaker 1: with the suitable amount of contempt that they invite always
- 24:10Speaker 1: have to resist the temptation. Don't we to just wish
- 24:14Speaker 1: that perhaps they would find themselves in a position where
- 24:17Speaker 1: they meet the people who they think are their great
- 24:20Speaker 1: allies and are shown a different type of custom and
- 24:24Speaker 1: a different type of welcome. If that guy ever got
- 24:28Speaker 1: his way, which he's not going to but actually sort
- 24:31Speaker 1: of lived in some kind of post Western world, well
- 24:35Speaker 1: good luck to him, because he'd find out awfully fast.
- 24:39Speaker 1: The Chinese Communist Party don't particularly care for people like him.
- 24:43Speaker 1: The sharier law lovers definitely don't like him. You know,
- 24:48Speaker 1: you just sort of in a way you hope that
- 24:50Speaker 1: they'll get a little taster of it someday, and it'll
- 24:53Speaker 1: be the firm smack of reality, maybe the first smack
- 24:56Speaker 1: they've got, but certainly not the first one they've deserved.
- 25:01Speaker 3: It reminds me of those pro Palestinian supporters who thought
- 25:05Speaker 3: they were going to march into Palestine through Egypt and
- 25:08Speaker 3: the locals gave them the sort of.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Reception they weren't expecting.
- 25:13Speaker 3: They were I think expecting the red carpet treatment, and no,
- 25:15Speaker 3: they got a very North African welcome and they were shocked.
- 25:20Speaker 3: They couldn't believe the locals would behave like that. Before
- 25:23Speaker 3: you go. It's been a big week for the Trump administration.
- 25:26Speaker 3: The bombing of Iran's nuclear sites is fresh calls for
- 25:30Speaker 3: Donald Trump's impeachment from the Democrats, from the likes of
- 25:33Speaker 3: AOC and we've also just had Donald Trump overnight at
- 25:37Speaker 3: the Hague securing increased defense spending from NATO partners. Do
- 25:42Speaker 3: you expect to see the peace steal between Israel and
- 25:47Speaker 3: Iran enduring for any sort of time.
- 25:51Speaker 1: We'll see. The Iranian Revolutionary government is not in a
- 25:56Speaker 1: very strong position at the moment. The Iatola Kameni is
- 25:59Speaker 1: about the last person left at the head of it.
- 26:02Speaker 1: The end of the military and the terrorists infrastructure that
- 26:06Speaker 1: he and his predecessor built up for four and a
- 26:09Speaker 1: half decades. Now, he's not in a strong position the era.
- 26:15Speaker 1: The skies above Iran are completely dominated by the Israeli
- 26:21Speaker 1: Air Force and indeed by the American Air Force. In
- 26:23Speaker 1: the last ten days or so, they don't have control
- 26:27Speaker 1: of their own skies. The Uranian Revolutionary government, the Israeli
- 26:30Speaker 1: and American Air Force can do whatever they want, and
- 26:33Speaker 1: the Mullers basically can't do anything much in response. If
- 26:37Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolutionary government were to break this cease fire,
- 26:42Speaker 1: Israel be completely within its rights to retaliate immediately. I
- 26:45Speaker 1: think there is a slightly difficult corner for the Israelis,
- 26:48Speaker 1: which is whether or not they actually feel that they
- 26:50Speaker 1: finished the job, not just on the nuclear sites, but
- 26:53Speaker 1: on the ballistic missiles and others that the Iranian Revolutionary
- 26:56Speaker 1: government has been firing at the people of Israel for
- 26:59Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and has done so many
- 27:01Speaker 1: times in the past. If the Israelis felt the job
- 27:04Speaker 1: isn't done, they will need some kind of reassurance that
- 27:06Speaker 1: it'll be that basically, that the rocket fire will stop
- 27:10Speaker 1: and much more. It's a difficult corner that and I
- 27:14Speaker 1: can understand, you know, the tensions on all sides. But
- 27:17Speaker 1: you know, President Trump did an extraordinary and historic thing,
- 27:21Speaker 1: as indeed did Prime Minister Netta Yahoo in the last
- 27:24Speaker 1: couple of weeks since we spoke. The whole world has
- 27:27Speaker 1: said for years that Iran cannot get a nuclear bomb,
- 27:32Speaker 1: and most of the world sat by or negotiated away.
- 27:36Speaker 1: As the Mollez got closer and closer to getting the
- 27:40Speaker 1: world's most dangerous weaponry. The Israelis acted and then the
- 27:44Speaker 1: Americans backed them up and finished most of that job,
- 27:47Speaker 1: if not all of it. And as I've said for
- 27:50Speaker 1: many years, evidably there's criticism, but they have done something which,
- 27:56Speaker 1: if it's shown to have been complete, if it has
- 27:59Speaker 1: actually just freud the nuclear terrorist infrastructure of the Maulers,
- 28:04Speaker 1: is absolutely historic. That the idiots claiming that Trump should
- 28:09Speaker 1: be impeached should just come out and say that they
- 28:12Speaker 1: have no problem with the idea of a nuclear Iran
- 28:14Speaker 1: and a nuclearized Middle East. And if they think that,
- 28:18Speaker 1: they're even bigger fools than you and I took them for.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight.
- 28:26Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure.
- 28:27Speaker 2: As always, coming.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Up Lefties Losing It plus a surprisingly tender moment between
- 28:33Speaker 3: Donald Trump and a Ukrainian journalist at the NATO summit.
- 28:38Speaker 3: Army Horowitz is up next. Welcome back. It's time for
- 28:52Speaker 3: lefties losing it And here are a couple of American
- 28:55Speaker 3: traitors who want the Islamist Iranian regime to wipe out
- 28:59Speaker 3: these to blow up more than one hundred million Americans
- 29:03Speaker 3: in red states like Texas and Florida.
- 29:05Speaker 8: Dear Iron, this is my official application of states that
- 29:08Speaker 8: you should.
- 29:09Speaker 14: Wipe out because we did not vote.
- 29:12Speaker 4: For that orange cheetoh man over here in Los Angeles, Alabama.
- 29:16Speaker 8: Out here, Florida out of here, Arkansas boom, Oklahoma, get
- 29:22Speaker 8: them gla, Ohio, Kansas gone, Kentucky No, Arkansas ran the
- 29:31Speaker 8: Tennessee Fire.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Texas double double.
- 29:39Speaker 3: You know, those low life losers mentioned my home state
- 29:42Speaker 3: of arkansat twice.
- 29:43Speaker 2: That's a declaration of war where I come from.
- 29:46Speaker 3: And let's see another unhinged lefty who somehow diluted herself
- 29:50Speaker 3: into thinking she's morally superior because she doesn't believe in
- 29:54Speaker 3: law and order, she doesn't believe in borders. She's happy
- 29:57Speaker 3: to see the return of the human trafficking tried at
- 30:00Speaker 3: the us is southern border because apparently it's what Jesus wanted.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Don't come on my page and say that people should
- 30:08Speaker 4: be in this country legally. Don't do it.
- 30:11Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, it's inhumane.
- 30:13Speaker 15: You are a human being, and don't.
- 30:15Speaker 2: You dare use Jesus's name or God's.
- 30:18Speaker 5: Name in this and say that this is what he
- 30:19Speaker 5: would want and pretend to be a Christian because you're not.
- 30:22Speaker 2: This is pure evil. You are scum of the earth.
- 30:25Speaker 2: These are people, these.
- 30:26Speaker 12: Are mothers, these are fathers, these are human beings, and
- 30:29Speaker 12: all you care about is where they are geographically.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Shame on you do better, be better now.
- 30:36Speaker 3: This is one way to deal with a lefty losing
- 30:39Speaker 3: it And.
- 30:39Speaker 14: Tell me why I'm gonna get sixer?
- 30:43Speaker 15: No I'm not, I no, no, Why.
- 30:55Speaker 2: Did she get up?
- 30:56Speaker 3: You knew she was gonna get zapped again as as
- 30:58Speaker 3: soon as she got up.
- 31:00Speaker 2: He doesn't get much sillier than this.
- 31:01Speaker 3: This is Sex and the City star Cynthia Nixon campaigning
- 31:06Speaker 3: for a radical socialist? Is there a more dim witted
- 31:09Speaker 3: profession than acting this?
- 31:11Speaker 2: Just intellectually barren in this election.
- 31:14Speaker 7: Day, I'm on my way to vote.
- 31:17Speaker 4: I don't felt that I have ever been more excited
- 31:20Speaker 4: to vote for anyone than I am to vote for
- 31:22Speaker 4: Zoran Mondani.
- 31:23Speaker 3: That was Cynthia before the vote, and afterwards she was celebrating,
- 31:27Speaker 3: celebrating like a Turkey celebrates Christmas. She posted Zora and Mamdani,
- 31:33Speaker 3: a Muslim democratic socialist has won the.
- 31:36Speaker 2: NYC primary for mayor.
- 31:37Speaker 3: Exclamation mark joining me now is a filmmaker and journalist's army,
- 31:42Speaker 3: Horowitz army. What do you make of Cynthia Nixon's advocacy here?
- 31:47Speaker 3: She wasn't alone, Zora and Mamdani has plenty of influential
- 31:52Speaker 3: famous backers.
- 31:53Speaker 2: What are you dancing to at the moment.
- 31:56Speaker 12: Si, I was listening to the rockin' out to mister
- 32:00Speaker 12: cartermom aka Zoran Mandavi. Yes, the great wrapper of yesteryear.
- 32:07Speaker 12: So I couldn't help myself. Yes, Mandani is not only
- 32:12Speaker 12: a weight loss drug, but it's also the incoming mayor,
- 32:15Speaker 12: most probably of New York City. Yes, he has quite
- 32:19Speaker 12: a few, like you're trying to get to before I
- 32:21Speaker 12: disturb you. Quite a few celebrity backers, right, He's got
- 32:25Speaker 12: Emily Radajowski, the woman made herself famous while she was
- 32:29Speaker 12: naked in a video. Lord who made Who's your neck
- 32:33Speaker 12: of the woods? She makes great news?
- 32:36Speaker 2: Yes, New Zealand person.
- 32:38Speaker 12: Absolutely, and the afore mentioned Cynthia Nixon a whole Cynthia
- 32:43Speaker 12: Nixon just quick quick aside that when I had my daughter,
- 32:48Speaker 12: she was oh no, no, four or five years old. We
- 32:50Speaker 12: were at the park one day and she was holding
- 32:52Speaker 12: a string cheese and looking at it about to have
- 32:54Speaker 12: her lunch. That was her food. Cynthia Nixon's son ran
- 32:59Speaker 12: up to her, grab the cheese stick, laughed and ran
- 33:03Speaker 12: away and ate it. As Cynthia Nixon said, was laughing
- 33:06Speaker 12: and said, Oh, don't worry, I'll get you next time. No, Cynthia,
- 33:10Speaker 12: I got you this time. Look, Cynthia Nixon is a
- 33:13Speaker 12: horrible person that that son who stole my daughter's cheese stick.
- 33:20Speaker 12: This is something who she calls an observant jew that's
- 33:23Speaker 12: kind of like I'm anna observant Zoastrian. This is somebody
- 33:27Speaker 12: who spent time in a hunger strike against the genocide
- 33:33Speaker 12: and Israel. Notably the hunger strike lasted five days, but
- 33:37Speaker 12: heal it can make two days. Also a member of
- 33:40Speaker 12: JVP Jewish Boys for Peace, which who I've interviewed, complete
- 33:44Speaker 12: and total supporters of Hamas. So yeah, that's kind of
- 33:48Speaker 12: Cynthia and Nixon. But this tracks with Mandavi. Mandavi is
- 33:53Speaker 12: a he's a support. He has said his own words,
- 33:56Speaker 12: he wants to globalize the empty FATA. Well, you know,
- 34:00Speaker 12: I does take it. One second. He fought up with
- 34:02Speaker 12: a series of uprising against Israel, which was a series
- 34:06Speaker 12: of terrorist attacks which killed hundreds and hundreds of these
- 34:11Speaker 12: reelius civilians. He wants to globalize this he founded, he's
- 34:15Speaker 12: one of the founding member of one of the chapters
- 34:17Speaker 12: of s JP Students for Justice of Palestine, who are
- 34:21Speaker 12: open HAMA supporters against people that I have I have interviewed. Look,
- 34:26Speaker 12: he has openly called for the genocide of Israel, right,
- 34:29Speaker 12: he doesn't shy away from that at all. And you know,
- 34:33Speaker 12: even more disgusting than that is he sent out a
- 34:36Speaker 12: series of robo calls and I was sitting at a
- 34:38Speaker 12: baseball game my cousin. He got one of these robo calls,
- 34:41Speaker 12: and my cousin didn't know. I thought he was interacting
- 34:43Speaker 12: with somebod who worked for the actually worked for the
- 34:46Speaker 12: for the campaign. He said, look, I'm worried. I'm a Jew.
- 34:48Speaker 12: I can't vote for mine, Donnie. And then, in a sick,
- 34:52Speaker 12: twisted way, this person said this robo call said I'm
- 34:55Speaker 12: an Orthodox Jew and I had a friend who died
- 34:58Speaker 12: in October seventh. They actually weaponized and took this the
- 35:03Speaker 12: cruel murder of civilians for a weird, horrible political win.
- 35:09Speaker 12: I mean, this is Cynthia Nixon, this is Mindani.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Well, Mamdani did particularly well.
- 35:17Speaker 3: It has to be said with young voters, affluent voters,
- 35:21Speaker 3: low income voters didn't really back him, but college educated,
- 35:25Speaker 3: affluent voters did back him.
- 35:29Speaker 2: That's got to be a concern.
- 35:31Speaker 3: But I'm interested to get your take on what President
- 35:33Speaker 3: Donald Trump has had to say about this. After his
- 35:37Speaker 3: big win in New York's Democratic meryal primary, Trump wrote,
- 35:41Speaker 3: Democrats have crossed the line by elevating a one hundred
- 35:46Speaker 3: percent communist lunatic. He also added, We've had radical lefties before,
- 35:51Speaker 3: but this is getting a little ridiculous. But army, this
- 35:56Speaker 3: is the modern left in America. The Democrats loudest voices
- 36:00Speaker 3: are Iosa and Bernie and Jasmine Crockers and now this
- 36:05Speaker 3: guy who could be leading in yc.
- 36:09Speaker 12: Oh God, who would imagine I'd be pining for the
- 36:12Speaker 12: days of Bill de Blasio. Yeah, Look, I remember we Look,
- 36:18Speaker 12: we would have a series of discussions you and I
- 36:20Speaker 12: after the election. Right, in what direction are the Democrats.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Going to go?
- 36:24Speaker 12: Well, it seemed like they picked their lane, right, they
- 36:27Speaker 12: really did.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Look.
- 36:29Speaker 12: Zorman Jave is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
- 36:33Speaker 12: Now the DSA, this is not some like watered down
- 36:36Speaker 12: version of like social democrats in Europe. But this is
- 36:39Speaker 12: not the Finnish politicians on bikes. These are hardcore Marxist.
- 36:44Speaker 12: Let me read you a list of the affiliations of
- 36:47Speaker 12: the DSA support if you read this, the DSA, this
- 36:50Speaker 12: is from their website, is a multi tendency coalition. Don't
- 36:53Speaker 12: know what that is of Marxist Leninists, trotsky Is, eco socialist,
- 36:58Speaker 12: orthodox Marxism as opposed to reform Marxism, evolutionary socialism, socialist feminism,
- 37:04Speaker 12: and eco socialisms, or simply crazy people. Now they can
- 37:08Speaker 12: add that list global g hottis because that's exactly what
- 37:11Speaker 12: they have. Look, he's calling for state run groceries, right,
- 37:16Speaker 12: state run grocery. Look, this is why it at the
- 37:20Speaker 12: people in breadlines from the Soviet Union time or now
- 37:23Speaker 12: currently in Venezuela, what they think of state run groceries. Okay,
- 37:27Speaker 12: by the way, state run groceries. He wants no profit margin.
- 37:30Speaker 12: They want they run a one to two percent profit margin.
- 37:33Speaker 12: That's the graphic margin he wants to get rid of
- 37:35Speaker 12: and have absolutely no food whatsoever. He's called for having
- 37:41Speaker 12: no fee for transportation, Getting the subway, getting the bus,
- 37:44Speaker 12: no problem at all. I remember just recently on that
- 37:46Speaker 12: same yagging game I was talking about I was a
- 37:48Speaker 12: subway that stopped for about fifteen minutes, and this woman
- 37:51Speaker 12: said to me, you know, that's why I don't pay
- 37:53Speaker 12: for the subway. I skipped. I don't pay. I hoped
- 37:56Speaker 12: the thing that stops you makes you pay, because this
- 38:00Speaker 12: is what we get to go.
- 38:01Speaker 1: No.
- 38:01Speaker 12: No, the reason why we're stopping for fifteen minutes because
- 38:03Speaker 12: you don't pay for the subway. He wants to make
- 38:05Speaker 12: that across New York City. This guy is a legitimate
- 38:08Speaker 12: crazy person, and now New York is poised to elect
- 38:12Speaker 12: him the mayor of the city.
- 38:14Speaker 3: To NATO now, ARMI and President Donald Trump shared a
- 38:18Speaker 3: touching moment with a Ukrainian woman, a journalist who asked
- 38:22Speaker 3: him a question during the NATO press conference.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Let's have a look meet with the kids. I mean
- 38:28Speaker 2: also actually, because he wanted to meet.
- 38:31Speaker 9: Is your husband a soldier?
- 38:32Speaker 1: Now he's he's there now.
- 38:35Speaker 9: Yeah, Well that's rough stuff, right, that's tough, and you're
- 38:39Speaker 9: living here and you're a reporter.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I am good.
- 38:44Speaker 9: So let me just tell you. They do want to
- 38:47Speaker 9: have the anti missile missiles. Okay, as they call them
- 38:51Speaker 9: the patriots, and we're going to see if we can
- 38:55Speaker 9: make some available.
- 38:56Speaker 2: Amy that's the side of the president. We don't always.
- 38:59Speaker 12: Say no, that's true. Look, he really does feel for
- 39:05Speaker 12: the people of Ukraine. I mean again, you know, it's
- 39:07Speaker 12: so funny. It makes me think back to this whole
- 39:10Speaker 12: Russia Gate thing, right that. Remember the Democrats planted their
- 39:14Speaker 12: flag on that they were gonna die on the hill,
- 39:17Speaker 12: that he was a Russian mole, he was a cat's
- 39:21Speaker 12: paw for Putin. Yeah, I noticed that Russia invaded Ukraine twice,
- 39:28Speaker 12: once under Obama and once under Biden, didn't evade it
- 39:32Speaker 12: under Trump. Trump has no love for Trump has no
- 39:36Speaker 12: love for Russia. He does want this to end, though,
- 39:39Speaker 12: because there is a massive amount of killings. Both sides
- 39:43Speaker 12: are dying right, clearly, one side in the wrong and
- 39:46Speaker 12: one side of the right not trying to quit the two.
- 39:48Speaker 12: There's no question that young people are dying in Russia,
- 39:52Speaker 12: but in particularly in Ukraine, and right there you saw
- 39:55Speaker 12: the affection he had for Ukrainians and the way he
- 39:59Speaker 12: felt for the people who are fighting for their freedom
- 40:01Speaker 12: and fighting against Russian tyranny.
- 40:06Speaker 2: And before you go.
- 40:07Speaker 3: He was also referred to as daddy during this NATO
- 40:12Speaker 3: PRAHS conference.
- 40:13Speaker 14: Markrat to the NATO chief, who is your friend? He
- 40:17Speaker 14: called you daddy earlier. Do you regard your NATO allies
- 40:23Speaker 14: as kind of children?
- 40:24Speaker 9: Well?
- 40:25Speaker 3: Trump wasn't playing the role of daddy earlier in the wig,
- 40:28Speaker 3: It's got to be said, and he wasn't very happy.
- 40:30Speaker 2: He was an angry daddy.
- 40:33Speaker 12: Yeah, just wait till daddy gets home. Man, Oh god,
- 40:36Speaker 12: I remember those words, and we're telling NATA those words. Also. Look,
- 40:41Speaker 12: he really has transformed NATO. Do you remember remember the
- 40:45Speaker 12: days and he said I'm gonna leave NATO and everywhere like,
- 40:48Speaker 12: oh my god, he's crazy. He wants to leave NATO. Yeah. Look,
- 40:52Speaker 12: six out of thirty one countries prior to Trumpere did
- 40:55Speaker 12: not hit the two percent threshold they legally were supposed
- 40:58Speaker 12: to hit. And since he became president the first time,
- 41:02Speaker 12: not even now the first time, because of that threat,
- 41:05Speaker 12: the vast majority of NATO countries are at that spending threshold. Finally,
- 41:11Speaker 12: we're not paying for NATO's defense totally. So yeah, he
- 41:15Speaker 12: kind of is there daddy. And by the way, he's
- 41:16Speaker 12: not disliked by the heads of NATO. Mark Rutt, the
- 41:19Speaker 12: current head of NATO, is the one who called him daddy,
- 41:21Speaker 12: and Stoenberg before him praised him over and over again
- 41:25Speaker 12: that he was able to get these intransigent European countries
- 41:30Speaker 12: to finally pay up. So yeah, Daddy made it work.
- 41:36Speaker 3: Amy Harwitz, thank you so much for your time. Tonight, Salty,
- 41:39Speaker 3: come the latest on Jeff Bazils's lavish wedding and the
- 41:43Speaker 3: billion dollar question about.
- 41:45Speaker 2: That train up.
- 41:46Speaker 3: Kinsey Skyfield is up next, Welcome back. Joining me now
- 42:00Speaker 3: is to Die for podcast hosts Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, There's
- 42:04Speaker 3: been a lot of talk in the media about Jeff
- 42:07Speaker 3: Bezos's lavish wedding in Venice. It's this Saturday, tell me
- 42:12Speaker 3: the latest, and let's be honest, we all want to know.
- 42:16Speaker 2: Is there a prenup?
- 42:17Speaker 3: The last divorce costume billions, tens of billions.
- 42:22Speaker 4: I am all over this for you, but I hate
- 42:24Speaker 4: to disappoint you. There's still no word officially on whether
- 42:28Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos and Lauren Chenchez signed a pre nup. And
- 42:32Speaker 4: that's raising eyebrows because, like you said, Bezos didn't have
- 42:34Speaker 4: one with ex wife McKenzie Scott and they're twenty nineteen.
- 42:38Speaker 7: Divorce ended with Scott.
- 42:39Speaker 4: Walking away with roughly thirty five billion dollars, instantly making
- 42:43Speaker 4: her one of the richest women in the world, with
- 42:45Speaker 4: Bezos now worth over two hundred billion. Legal experts say
- 42:50Speaker 4: a prenup this time around would be a critical move.
- 42:53Speaker 4: But by the way, can I find anybody willing to
- 42:55Speaker 4: marry me for thirty five million dollars?
- 42:59Speaker 7: I'm here already.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Yes, you're settling for the thirty five million, not billion.
- 43:05Speaker 2: Come on, can see we can get you the beat.
- 43:07Speaker 2: We can get you with a beat. Thank you. I'm
- 43:11Speaker 2: high now.
- 43:12Speaker 3: Orlando Bloom is expected to be at this wedding, and
- 43:16Speaker 3: he may be making his debut as a single man.
- 43:20Speaker 3: What's happened with Katie Perry? Because only what a few
- 43:23Speaker 3: weeks ago she was in space with the bride Lauren Sanchez?
- 43:27Speaker 2: Is she not going to be at the wedding by
- 43:29Speaker 2: Orlando site?
- 43:31Speaker 4: I mean, I should ask you what's in the water
- 43:33Speaker 4: in Australia, because apparently this all.
- 43:35Speaker 7: Blew up in Australia.
- 43:36Speaker 4: According to TMZ, Orlando Bloom is going to be making
- 43:39Speaker 4: his debut as a newly single man at the wedding.
- 43:42Speaker 4: Of Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez source to say he's
- 43:45Speaker 4: expected to bring the energy and hit the dance floor hard.
- 43:48Speaker 4: There's even Taki and Leonardo DiCaprio could slip away for
- 43:52Speaker 4: a little bar hoping on insider jokes. Ninety percent of
- 43:56Speaker 4: the guest list is kind of boring, but that other
- 43:58Speaker 4: ten percent, including Orlando and Jeff Bezos himself, is where
- 44:02Speaker 4: the real fun is.
- 44:02Speaker 7: It's going to be a great party.
- 44:04Speaker 4: Now the split rumors they just want start, they're intensifying,
- 44:09Speaker 4: and notably, she will not be attending the wedding.
- 44:14Speaker 3: Well, the last thing you want to hear is that
- 44:16Speaker 3: your strange husband is hanging out with Leonardo DiCaprio somewhere
- 44:22Speaker 3: in Italy. That is just bad news all around. Now
- 44:26Speaker 3: let's move on to the UK and there are reports
- 44:29Speaker 3: that Prince Andrew will not be returning as a working
- 44:32Speaker 3: member of the royal family under Prince William once he
- 44:36Speaker 3: becomes king. The Prince and Princess of Wales reportedly see
- 44:41Speaker 3: the disgraced Duke of York as a threat to the firm,
- 44:45Speaker 3: and the future King does not want to explore any
- 44:50Speaker 3: sort of scenario where he's going to be returning as
- 44:53Speaker 3: a working royal.
- 44:56Speaker 4: Honestly, no one in the loan of succession would welcome
- 44:59Speaker 4: Prince Andrew into the fold. His sexual assault accuser recently
- 45:03Speaker 4: committed suicide, and while he insists he's an innocent man,
- 45:07Speaker 4: he was clearly close to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein,
- 45:11Speaker 4: and in the court of public opinion.
- 45:13Speaker 7: It's guilt by association.
- 45:14Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that Prince William isn't villainized over these
- 45:18Speaker 4: reports because to me it feels like common sense.
- 45:23Speaker 2: And sticking with the Royals.
- 45:25Speaker 3: George Clooney and his wife Amal have rubbed shoulders with
- 45:29Speaker 3: King Charles this way tell us what was behind that?
- 45:34Speaker 3: While was George clan George Clooney at Buckingham Palace.
- 45:38Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I think the cloonies probably prefer
- 45:41Speaker 4: crowns over complaints. George and Amal showed up hand in
- 45:44Speaker 4: hand to Buckingham Palace looking right at home.
- 45:48Speaker 7: I guess after one Royal wedding and.
- 45:49Speaker 4: A few Netflix specials, they've officially rsv p'd no to
- 45:54Speaker 4: Juan Acido and yes to team working Royals.
- 45:57Speaker 2: You can't blame them.
- 45:58Speaker 4: The King's trust has way back press and fewer Spotify casualties.
- 46:02Speaker 4: But they were therefore the King's Trust Awards, and they
- 46:06Speaker 4: looked relaxed. They were in good spirits as they spoke
- 46:09Speaker 4: to King Charles before he greeted the other guests. And
- 46:12Speaker 4: they are apparently longtime supporters of the King's Trust formerly
- 46:16Speaker 4: the Princess Trust. And in twenty nineteen, Amole actually partnered
- 46:19Speaker 4: with the organization to launch Amal Cloney's Women's Empowerment Awards.
- 46:24Speaker 4: So this actually surprises me so much. It's giving you
- 46:28Speaker 4: a sense of how Hollywood has really turned their back
- 46:30Speaker 4: on the Sussexes.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if you've got the choice between the Sussexes
- 46:36Speaker 3: and the real royal family, you're always going to pick
- 46:39Speaker 3: the rules at you.
- 46:40Speaker 2: We're not surprised.
- 46:42Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Sean Diddy Combs. His
- 46:46Speaker 3: legal team failed to call a single witness to the
- 46:50Speaker 3: stand in his defense.
- 46:53Speaker 15: Why is that?
- 46:53Speaker 3: Closing arguments are scheduled to begin Thursday, and I'm hearing
- 46:58Speaker 3: more and more conjecture that the defense is very confident
- 47:02Speaker 3: that he's going to get off on the most serious charges.
- 47:05Speaker 4: Look, did he may not be the most sympathetic figure,
- 47:08Speaker 4: and no jury wants to let somebody shady off the hook,
- 47:11Speaker 4: but being unlikable isn't the same as being guilty of
- 47:14Speaker 4: racketeering and sex trafficking. The government has thrown a lot
- 47:19Speaker 4: at him, but when you look closely, it's fair to
- 47:21Speaker 4: question whether all of it will actually stick. When it
- 47:24Speaker 4: comes to the racketeering charge specifically, prosecutors appear to be
- 47:28Speaker 4: on shaky ground. Some might argue that they overcharged him.
- 47:32Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I could say now, I do
- 47:34Speaker 4: feel like they overcharged him because they dropped several of
- 47:37Speaker 4: the counts today because they wanted to simplify the jury's
- 47:42Speaker 4: you know, the jury's instructions, and now they're trying it
- 47:46Speaker 4: did look like for a while that they were trying
- 47:48Speaker 4: to make the facts fit the narrative versus the other
- 47:52Speaker 4: way around.
- 47:53Speaker 7: So I don't know. I do wonder. I'm at a loss.
- 47:57Speaker 7: I don't know what's going to happen when it.
- 47:59Speaker 4: Finds comes down to the jury taking this case and
- 48:04Speaker 4: trying to determine what happens behind closed doors. But I
- 48:07Speaker 4: do think when it comes to closing arguments, we're going
- 48:10Speaker 4: to hear the defense double down on their original approach.
- 48:13Speaker 7: Admit Diddy's not a saint, but.
- 48:15Speaker 4: Remind the jury that being morally questionable isn't the same
- 48:19Speaker 4: as being criminally liable.
- 48:22Speaker 2: And before you go.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Taylor Swift as surprised fans in Nashville as she took
- 48:26Speaker 3: to the stage at Travis Kelcey's charity concert to seeing
- 48:31Speaker 3: shake it Off.
- 48:31Speaker 2: Let's have a quick look. I may have to reinstitute
- 48:44Speaker 2: some sort of a.
- 48:44Speaker 3: Taylor's Swift Travis Kelsey ban again on this program. Kinsey,
- 48:48Speaker 3: I don't know if I can put up with too
- 48:50Speaker 3: many more clips like that.
- 48:52Speaker 7: Look, we talked about prenups.
- 48:55Speaker 4: All I have to say to Taylor Swift is please,
- 48:58Speaker 4: for the love of God, athletes are notorious for burning
- 49:02Speaker 4: through their money the second they no longer have work
- 49:05Speaker 4: in the NFL. Please get a prenum, Taylor, please listen
- 49:09Speaker 4: to us.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Well.
- 49:12Speaker 2: I'm still hoping.
- 49:13Speaker 3: I shouldn't say this, but I'm hoping for a fantastic
- 49:16Speaker 3: album post breakup. I can still see a breakup happening
- 49:21Speaker 3: and a number one album, and then she'll find love
- 49:23Speaker 3: with someone more suitable. Kinsey Schofield, thank you so much
- 49:27Speaker 3: for your time, and that's all the time we have tonight.
- 49:30Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow. Night at nine pm. For Left,
- 49:33Speaker 3: he's losing it. News Night is up next