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BONUS: Juck's Helmet Stickers and Initial Takeaways · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: And welcome and appreciate you so much for joining us
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  Speaker 1: here at Buckeye Insiders on the post game show. Coming
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  Speaker 1: to you live from a press box in the sky
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  Speaker 1: as the Buckeyes get the big victory today as they
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  Speaker 1: open Big Ten play against Illinois. A 23 point win.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a whole lot to talk about with
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  Speaker 1: this one. Certainly a couple of things that we weren't expecting.
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  Speaker 1: And definitely I think the biggest one, the X factor
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  Speaker 1: comes out finally. this felt like something that we felt
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  Speaker 1: like Ryan day was, was hinting at. He wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see here a quarterback. He was asked earlier on, I
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  Speaker 1: think Tuesday at the press conference, what he looks for
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  Speaker 1: in a quarterback. Does he look for a playmaker? And
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about first thing I look for is competitiveness,
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  Speaker 1: the ability to go make a play. And what we
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  Speaker 1: saw today from Julian saying was something I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we've seen yet from him in his career on a
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  Speaker 1: couple of occasions. Number one, He obviously had that fantastic
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  Speaker 1: touchdown run. But I thought more than that was escaping
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  Speaker 1: the pocket, not one, but two tackles and scrambling out,
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  Speaker 1: which was I think maybe the first time we have
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  Speaker 1: seen that out of Julian. And that was awesome to see.
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  Speaker 1: So I was really excited for that one. And all
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  Speaker 1: told on the day, this is sack adjusted, right? He
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  Speaker 1: didn't get sacked today. So when you look at that
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  Speaker 1: and it says Julian saying, Seven rushes. He actually rushed
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  Speaker 1: the ball seven times. And that's amazing. I'm certain that
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  Speaker 1: hasn't happened. I'm certain we haven't seen seven of those.
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  Speaker 1: How did you think he looked? I thought he looked
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. I thought it looked pretty natural. We saw
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  Speaker 1: the Kent State game when he clicked and goes immediately
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  Speaker 1: when he sees everything covered up and rushes for his
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  Speaker 1: first touchdown. And at that point, I was like, OK,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're going to see this year. And then
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see it at all against Texas. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: see it against Ball State. Now today, we see it.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Day was asked in the press conference about it
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  Speaker 1: and if he challenged him or something to that effect.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't straight out say that he did, but
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  Speaker 1: kind of in a roundabout way, I think he did.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's clear that it showed. And if
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  Speaker 1: you can add that to this offense, not that Julian's
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  Speaker 1: some fantastic scrambler, fantastic runner, but if you can add
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  Speaker 1: the willingness and the want to, and just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times a game put that on tape, I think
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  Speaker 1: that it helps a ton to in the overall execution
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  Speaker 1: of the offense. So that right there, I think is
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  Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway. Number one is Julian saying, and the
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  Speaker 1: X factor takeaway number two is most certainly Jeremiah. And we,
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  Speaker 1: we of course got to talk about this as Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: sets records for himself. Whenever this guy sets his own records,
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  Speaker 1: it's just, you know, something we certainly have to talk
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  Speaker 1: about as he scores four touchdowns today. which is just,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, each one of them was in its own right,
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  Speaker 1: like that would have been the highlight of the game.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think it was the second one
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  Speaker 1: where he catches it and he turns the guy one
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  Speaker 1: way and then immediately turns him the other way. It
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  Speaker 1: was so embarrassing. Tony turned to me and he said,
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  Speaker 1: I bet that guy wishes he just fell down. Would
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  Speaker 1: have been better. And it's true. What are you supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do there? I don't know. But We also talked
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  Speaker 1: a lot this week, in the past couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: there's been a ton of talk about Julian saying, locking
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  Speaker 1: on to Jeremiah. And is he going to Jeremiah too
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  Speaker 1: much at the expense of the other wide receivers, at
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  Speaker 1: the expense of developing chemistry with the other wide receivers?
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  Speaker 1: So today, I believe Jeremiah had double digit targets in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. He finishes the day with, let's see,
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  Speaker 1: how many targets did he have on the day? Jeremiah
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  Speaker 1: had My goodness, 16 targets on the day. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of targets. Of course, he caught 12 of them,
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  Speaker 1: and that's fantastic. 217 yards, and I believe that is
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  Speaker 1: his yardage record, four touchdowns. That is his touchdown record,
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  Speaker 1: an 18.1 yards per reception. And when you look at this,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is this something you can just replicate? Do
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  Speaker 1: you really need to spread it all around, or can
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  Speaker 1: you just take advantage every time you can take advantage?
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  Speaker 1: when it's Jeremiah Smith. It's interesting, man. He certainly just
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  Speaker 1: gets better and better. And number three, my third biggest
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  Speaker 1: takeaway of the game, and we'll get into a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other stuff today, but my third biggest takeaway just
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  Speaker 1: looking at three would be the explosive play breakdown. On
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, when we look at
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  Speaker 1: two teams like this, Illinois, Ohio State, when we look
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  Speaker 1: at the amount of offensive playmakers on the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: team and the amount of offensive playmakers on that Illinois team,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even close. We know this. When we look
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  Speaker 1: at the number of defensive studs and dudes on the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State team, it's not even close. But we sure
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  Speaker 1: did see a whole lot of explosive plays coming out
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  Speaker 1: of that Illinois squad. And we're talking pass plays of 15, 21, 27, 33, 19, 20.
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  Speaker 1: 27 yards, rushes of 37, 22, 15, 18, 11, 25.
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  Speaker 1: It's way too many, man. It's way, way, way too many.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously there are certainly some things that they've got
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  Speaker 1: to get cleaned up on the defense. Now, here's the
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  Speaker 1: thing about it. We can't now ask all week that
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  Speaker 1: we want to see younger guys play and then we
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  Speaker 1: get to see younger guys play and then be irritated
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  Speaker 1: with some breakdowns and giving up some explosives. And certainly
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  Speaker 1: a couple of those were the result of a couple
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  Speaker 1: of the younger guys, Riley, a couple of times, TJ,
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  Speaker 1: maybe once or twice, but a lot of it was
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  Speaker 1: the veteran guys as well. And you know, that's something
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  Speaker 1: that we can't just sweep under the rug. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that Illinois is an explosive offense and it's
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  Speaker 1: really a squad with only one standout wide receiver and
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  Speaker 1: Colin Dixon, neither of those running backs are superstar running backs. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: It just felt like errors and lapses in judgment getting
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  Speaker 1: sucked inside. And I don't think Devin Sanchez had his
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  Speaker 1: best day. But regardless, that is just way, way too
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  Speaker 1: many explosive plays given up to a team like Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're in game four. When we extrapolate that out
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  Speaker 1: to a team that really does have a lot of skill,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't bode well. But at the same time, it
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  Speaker 1: is just game four. It was just Big Ten game
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  Speaker 1: number one. And all in all, I come out of
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  Speaker 1: this thing, and I was thinking about this in the
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  Speaker 1: third quarter. How do I feel about this game? I'm
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  Speaker 1: not quite sure. Because of those explosive plays on defense,
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  Speaker 1: it did concern me. But, like, overall, I thought this
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  Speaker 1: Illinois team coming in was better than it was being
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  Speaker 1: given credit for. It was a 27.5-point underdog. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think that that was an appropriate line. And I picked
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  Speaker 1: Illinois to get within that 27 points. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: this was a pretty big butt whooping of a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good team. Not good team, a pretty competent team. They
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  Speaker 1: pretty much do everything right. And I thought that the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes had a pretty good performance today, all things considered.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously some breakdowns, but when you look at the whole
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  Speaker 1: course of the game, it's game number four. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: this is feeling like a team. And I started to
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  Speaker 1: have this feeling last week where I came into this
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  Speaker 1: year thinking kind of, and it was kind of silly
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  Speaker 1: of me to think that this team with because you
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  Speaker 1: had all these older guys that were transfers that it
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  Speaker 1: would look like a team that kind of had been
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  Speaker 1: playing together or had things together, but they're really building
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  Speaker 1: from week to week. And it's going to take a
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  Speaker 1: little longer to get things rolling. Now you got to
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  Speaker 1: grow up quick as a next week out at Iowa city.
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  Speaker 1: And I know, I don't know the score of that
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  Speaker 1: Iowa Michigan game right now, but I always look pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we know that their defense is going to
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  Speaker 1: be great. I don't anticipate having an issue with explosive
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  Speaker 1: plays against Iowa, at least, that shouldn't happen. Uh, certainly, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be about the offense carrying the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: defense next week when, uh, when they go to Iowa
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  Speaker 1: city and it is certainly going to be a big
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  Speaker 1: time challenge as you move forward into the schedule and
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  Speaker 1: play teams like USC with an offense like that. Oregon's
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  Speaker 1: offense at some point will come around Indiana's offense. At
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  Speaker 1: some point, uh, we'll go gangbusters after just scoring 38
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  Speaker 1: points against, uh, against Northwestern last night. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought the Caden Houser was a gamer. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He was maybe only 50%. But the dude's a gamer.
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  Speaker 1: He ran the ball when he needed to, and he
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  Speaker 1: looked good. But I came in with 10 questions. I
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  Speaker 1: like to ask 10 questions pregame, and then coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the game, I kind of answer the questions. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll go over a couple of these because I think
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  Speaker 1: a few of them are pertinent as we got a
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  Speaker 1: couple of comments talking about Jalen McClain. And we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to Jalen McClain. when we get to my Buckeye helmet
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  Speaker 1: stickers of the day, I thought Jalen was sensational without
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  Speaker 1: a doubt. One of the talking points last week was
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  Speaker 1: certainly the red zone. And that was, you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of an unacceptable red zone performance. I'm sorry, an unacceptable
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  Speaker 1: third down performance last week, not red zone. Third down
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  Speaker 1: last week was something like, I don't even remember, one
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  Speaker 1: of eight, two of eight. Today on third down, the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes were excellent as they were, I believe, Eight of 12.
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  Speaker 1: And here we got a graphic here. Do we got
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  Speaker 1: third down on there? No, we don't get third down
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  Speaker 1: on there. But third down today, they were eight for 12.
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  Speaker 1: And fourth down, they were two for two. So total,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking 10 out of 14. 14 on third and
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  Speaker 1: fourth down it doesn't get much better than that against
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  Speaker 1: a competent team so that was a fantastic showing uh
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  Speaker 1: by the offense on third and fourth down and we
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  Speaker 1: can attribute some of that certainly to julian saying and
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  Speaker 1: uh in his running we can attribute some of that
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  Speaker 1: to um a couple of the tight, well, Nate Roberts,
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  Speaker 1: for one, who had some really sticky hands at one point.
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  Speaker 1: And I do want to talk about those tight ends
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  Speaker 1: in a few. Then when we talk about the red zone,
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  Speaker 1: and this has been a conversation, you know, throughout the
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  Speaker 1: early part of the season here, the Buckeyes for four
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  Speaker 1: for four with touchdowns in the red zone today. So
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  Speaker 1: both red zone and third down, things looking fantastic on
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  Speaker 1: the day against Illinois. Now, one of my questions coming
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  Speaker 1: into today was defensive aggression. I thought that this might
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  Speaker 1: be an opportunity and what we might see today would
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  Speaker 1: be some real defensive aggression from Matt Patricia, because Matt
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  Speaker 1: Patricia is, you know, kind of a guy who would
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  Speaker 1: rather hold back, beat you with this talent, smother you
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  Speaker 1: with this talent, rather than a guy who wants to
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  Speaker 1: come out and throw a lot of different things at you,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of blitzes and twists and stunts and such.
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  Speaker 1: but I felt like this might be a game where
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  Speaker 1: we'd start to see some more of that. And then
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  Speaker 1: as we saw some more of that, we gearing up
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  Speaker 1: kind of to get into more of that moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought we saw some, certainly we did see
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  Speaker 1: a couple of blitzes, a couple of run blitzes. We
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  Speaker 1: saw Peyton Pierce on a run blitz, which is something
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  Speaker 1: I could do without. We saw Jay Timmons on a
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  Speaker 1: blitz where it was maybe a little nervous for a
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  Speaker 1: second as he goes down and grabs his hamstring and
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  Speaker 1: Jay Timmons was working out on the bike, maybe, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, five minutes after he went down and grabbed
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  Speaker 1: his leg. I don't know if it was his hamstring
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  Speaker 1: or the front of his leg, but it looked like
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  Speaker 1: his hamstring to me. But he was on the bike
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  Speaker 1: and nobody was around him. And that's usually a really
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  Speaker 1: good sign if anybody was worrying about Jay Timmons. So
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  Speaker 1: we saw that. We also saw a twist, at least one,
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  Speaker 1: between Kari Wilder and Riley Pettijohn. And that was awesome
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  Speaker 1: to see. And we talk about those two young dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two of the guys that we've talked about
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  Speaker 1: a lot coming into this week and wanting to see
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  Speaker 1: more of those guys. And that was excellent. So my
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  Speaker 1: second question coming into the week was Riley Pettijohn over
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  Speaker 1: 50% of the snaps. Were we going to see Riley
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  Speaker 1: Pettijohn in over 50% of the snaps today? Because the
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  Speaker 1: Kent State game felt like, you know, it was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different. Number one, that we saw Riley Pettijohn
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  Speaker 1: playing at Mike Linebacker some. with Christian Allegro, because it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like Riley Pettijohn isn't going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to maybe supplant Peyton Pierce because, you know, Peyton
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  Speaker 1: plays Mike, TJ backs him up at Mike. Riley and
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  Speaker 1: Christian Allegro, who look kind of like the two best
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  Speaker 1: pairings out there, or the best two linebackers on the year,
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  Speaker 1: they don't really play together because they play the same position. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then we see Riley Pettijohn playing at Mike Linebacker. And
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  Speaker 1: where are we going to see some more of that today?
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  Speaker 1: Where are we going to potentially see him play about
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  Speaker 1: 50% of the snaps. I'm not quite so sure how
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  Speaker 1: much he played as far as the breakdown. I'll put
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  Speaker 1: that out on Twitter. But it felt to me like
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty doggone close. Now, Peyton Pierce, number 26,
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  Speaker 1: has been getting a lot of heat. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, he played a pretty doggone solid game.
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  Speaker 1: So I was happy to see that. Moving on to
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  Speaker 1: question number three. Now, this one, hitting on the tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought this was really interesting. So Nate Roberts
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  Speaker 1: and Mason Williams, your two top tight ends. And, well,
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  Speaker 1: let me rephrase that. Nate Roberts and then Mason Williams
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  Speaker 1: and Bennett Christian are, you know, kind of both your
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  Speaker 1: number two. And Bennett Christian was out today. So my
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  Speaker 1: thought was, okay, you go in today with Nate Roberts
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  Speaker 1: and Mason Williams. Are they just going to play those two?
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  Speaker 1: Because if they do, I think we might see a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good performance out of the tight ends because Nate's
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  Speaker 1: been playing pretty good. And Mason has been better than Bennett.
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  Speaker 1: And what did we see with the tight ends? Boy,
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't all we saw. We saw Max LeBlanc out
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  Speaker 1: there quite a bit. We saw Hunter Welsing out there
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  Speaker 1: quite a bit. We saw Hunter Welsing get more targets
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  Speaker 1: than Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Jr. combined. He got
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  Speaker 1: three targets. He caught one ball. And both Brock Boyd
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  Speaker 1: and Chris Henry Jr. each got one target. And they
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  Speaker 1: caught twice as many balls combined as Hunter Welsing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not so sure what it is with the obsession here,
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  Speaker 1: because here's the thing. If Hunter Welsing and Max LeBlanc
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  Speaker 1: weren't good enough to get on the field when Bennett
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  Speaker 1: Christian was playing, why are they now good enough to
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  Speaker 1: do it now? I don't know. We also saw Jake
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  Speaker 1: Cook officially wearing number 81, and this time it's got
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  Speaker 1: his name on it now. So Jake Cook, now number 81,
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  Speaker 1: and he was lined up at tight end in 12 personnel. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like the first two series of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And then I don't think we really saw him after that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just a wonky situation and it feels forced
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  Speaker 1: to me. Here's the good news about the tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't notice any blown up plays blocking by the
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  Speaker 1: tight ends. I thought Nate Roberts blocked excellent today. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to blocking excellent, he looked really good as a
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  Speaker 1: receiver bringing in three balls. One of them was just
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic, they were all hands catches and one of
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  Speaker 1: them was a great snag. with his hands, and you
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  Speaker 1: can see what everybody says about Nate. Yeah, he's a
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  Speaker 1: sophomore getting better, and he's a guy that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a really good one in the future. Everybody else
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  Speaker 1: is maxed out who's playing here. Hunter Welsing's a seventh year.
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  Speaker 1: Bennett Christian's a fifth year. He didn't play today. Mason's
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  Speaker 1: a fifth year. They're maxed out. Nate has got the goods,
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  Speaker 1: so that was great to see, and still not sure
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  Speaker 1: what the obsession is with the tight ends when you've
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  Speaker 1: got It felt to me like every time I saw
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Innes come on the field, I said to Tony, boy,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen him much today. And I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know if he had any targets today. He may not
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  Speaker 1: have had any targets today. We did see a high
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  Speaker 1: target day for Devin McEwen. Devin McEwen gets five targets.
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  Speaker 1: I think he caught four balls, 34 yards. Did have
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  Speaker 1: a terrible drop, which sucked because we want to see
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  Speaker 1: him not have drops. And him and Julian get some
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  Speaker 1: rapport together. We did see Julian finally throw a target
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  Speaker 1: to Brock Boyd, which it just doesn't seem like those
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  Speaker 1: two have a good rapport together at this point. Because
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  Speaker 1: we saw a whole lot of Brock open today with opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: And matter of fact, Julian scrambled for the touchdown. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the stadium saw Brock come wide open right in
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  Speaker 1: front of him. And Julian turns back and scrambles the
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  Speaker 1: other way. Scores a touchdown on it. All's well that
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  Speaker 1: ends well. But it could have been much easier if
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  Speaker 1: he'd just thrown it to Brock. But we do see
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  Speaker 1: Brock catch the ball, make a great move, stay in bounds,
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  Speaker 1: and just get totally smacked by number seven on Illinois,
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  Speaker 1: who's awesome. Kid was everywhere. He had like 14 tackles.
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  Speaker 1: And he smashes Brock, who immediately pops up and looks
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  Speaker 1: at him and takes a step forward. He's just a dude, man.
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  Speaker 1: He is a superstar waiting to happen. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait till he gets rolling. And certainly watching Hunter Wilson
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  Speaker 1: get more targets than him was very obnoxious in my view.
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  Speaker 1: Question number five heading into today. I'm sorry, number four.
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  Speaker 1: Was the message to Bo Jackson received? On Tuesday, Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Day was all about ripping Isaiah and Bo a new
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: one for not running as angry as he wanted them
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to run. and he congratulated or complimented Jacoby Jackson and
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: said that, you know, in his view, Jacoby was running
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: really angry. Oh, and Isaiah were not. And I think,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where they're running angry. I
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, but they weren't breaking any tackles. So you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: come into today and I think maybe it was at halftime.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Isaiah had a 12 yard run. Uh, that was the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: long run on the day. And then when we talk
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: about Bo, it was, uh, He was, you know, had
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of maybe the eight yard here, eight yard there.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: It didn't really feel like he was able to get
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: much going or break many tackles on the day. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: all in all, when we look at the backs at
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, 4.7 yards per carry, which,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you know, not fantastic. You'd certainly like to see him
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: over five. But what I like to do always is
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: go off the tone of the head coach at the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: end of the day. And today, when he talked about
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the run game, he felt pretty good about it. which
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: lets me know, all right, well, when we look at
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the film, maybe we're probably gonna feel pretty good about
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: it too. It didn't feel too good in the game,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but usually he knows. Like when he came out of
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: last week's game and he was furious with the run
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: game and then you see everything and there's breakdowns everywhere.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: So I feel better about it because he didn't feel
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: too bad about it, right? He's a very honest coach.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: When he feels, when things are to be concerned about,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he lets you know. And today it felt like, you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: he didn't feel too concerned about it. So that makes
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: me feel better about it. but I would like to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: see Bo Jackson break a few more tackles here and there.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know, man, it's getting old. You'd
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: like to see, they talked about this all off season
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and it's just not happening. It's just not happening. But
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: another shout out to Jacoby Jackson, who had another really
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of really a couple of good runs there
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter was a really nice one to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: keep things going and then scoring the touchdown. So that
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: was great. Number five, Gabe Van Sickle. This was offensive
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: line combo number two. you got two combos the one
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: with Philip Daniels that was what we saw game one
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: terrible against Ball State game two pretty doggone good against
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Texas then he's out for last week against Kent State
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and he's out for this week and we see the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Gabe Van Sickle Austin Saraville combo and I thought they
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: did pretty well Now you've got two and two. What
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: do you do next week heading to Iowa facing a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: really good defense? Is there a situation on their hands?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Is this something they're considering? Or when Phil's healthy, they're
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: going right back to Phil. I don't think we know yet.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day was asked about it, I believe, on Tuesday.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And he said, you know, he needs to see more
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of it. So it'll be curious to find out what
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: he says this Tuesday as to what he thought about
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it as they go into the first big time away
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Big Ten game. of the year at Iowa. And then
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: number six, how are they going to do with elite
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: defensive line movement? Because today you're dealing with a three, three,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: five defense. You got three down linemen. That fourth guy
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is usually coming. Where's it coming from? We don't know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: So it's going to take a lot of communication, et cetera.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: How did you think they do? I thought they did
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: pretty well. I was really kind of happy for the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: most part with how they did. And Julian, Julian, How
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: is he going to do under pressure? I thought he
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: did all right under pressure. When we look at Julian's stats,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and I'll have to see these a little more in-depth
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: on his stats when he's pressured, because at times, obviously
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: his stats on the day, 27 for 36, for 367
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and four passing touchdowns, fantastic. No doubt. But when we
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: look at his stats as a guy not under pressure
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: versus pressured, They're very, very different. And that is something like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: let's say for instance, if you, and I don't have
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: these exactly off the top of my head, but let's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: say if he's the fifth best quarterback when he is,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you know, when the pocket's clean, then when there's pressure,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he's like compared to his peers, like the 20th, right?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's just, he goes down, they all go down, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: he goes down at a more, at a heavier rate
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: than his peers. So that's something that he needs to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: improve upon. And I thought today that it looked pretty good.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: But obviously it'll take getting into the big time, heavy duty,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: expensive metrics to find out if that's actually what happened.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Number eight, the red zone offense, which we already hit on.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Number nine, special teams. Guys, listen, I was checking this
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: special teams and we're talking punt, punt return, kickoff, kickoff return,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: which kickoff returns kind of obsolete at this point. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Ohio State was, after bringing in Robbie Disher, Illinois' special
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: team coach, it was supposed to be better. And they
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: were outside of the top 100 in every single category.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: So you come into today, outside of the top 100
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: in every single special teams category, you know, Illinois punted,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I think, twice inside the 20. Phil Bell didn't field
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: either of them. Look, maybe there was an opportunity for
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: one of them. to potentially field it, but he decided
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: not to. And then you had Joe McGuire with a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: 42-yard average punt. My point is they lost the special
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: teams yardage battle again, which they do every week. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that is the one thing that was supposed to stop happening,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: bringing in the $ 400, 000 special teams coach from Illinois who
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was excellent at Illinois, not just with the hidden yardage,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: but with things like punt blocks, kick blocks. We haven't
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: seen a single special teams play all year, not one.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm waiting to see that. As we move on
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to our players of the game, our Buckeye Leafs of
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the game, Buckeye stickers, we've got Jeremiah Smith, of course,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt. Jeremiah, definitely going to get a sticker today.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Nate Roberts, certainly I thought it was his best game
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: yet as a Buckeye in year number two. And remember
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: year one, this dude got, you know, he did, something
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to help the team, which was play fullback. That's not
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: his natural position that he's not really built well for.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And he went ahead and did it. And because he
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: did it, he kind of got a, he got a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: bad reputation with the, with a lot of the fan
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: bases as a guy who isn't very good, but he
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: actually is. So I'm happy to see the people are
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: recognizing that Nate is going to be a dude here
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: at Ohio state at tight end. And I think he
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: can not only, you know, block, but he can receive,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And he blocked pretty well today, early. And then we
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: started seeing the receptions coming. So I'm very happy for him.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And then Jalen McClain was sensational, separating dudes from the football,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: making tackles, screaming to all over the field. It was
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: one of those games where you remember like, man, that
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: dude is elite. He is really, really elite. And when
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he's on, he is really on. So that was awesome
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to see. And those are our Buckeye stickers. We've said enough.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: about uh jeremiah smith now we do got a little
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: bit of peyton pierce let's see what peyton had to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: say shoes.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And we gotta hop on the film and figure it
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: out but i know we'll get it fixed and you
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: guys feel like you played overall since we did give
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: up some big plays you also got some stops in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the fourth.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Quarter um close to the line.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah i think it's football yeah it's good plays you
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: have some bad plays we gotta capitalize on more of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the you know explosive plays just with communication and understanding
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the formation and situation.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: But I think it's good.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Stuff to learn from going into Big Ten play, and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: we're going to keep getting better.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had some stuff for you. I mean, they
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: weren't just lining up and scrimmaging, right?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, what was the most confusing thing you think
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: y'all dealt with.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Off and on?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, they had a good scheme.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. At the end of the day, we just got
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to communicate on the back end and front.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And stuff like that. It's little things that we can fix,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and we'll get it fixed. You were part of that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Defense last year that had a lot of better and
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: better experience.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: This defense obviously has some new guys. How much do
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: you feel like it's coming.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Along week by week as opposed to maybe last year
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: where it was ready to go week by week?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's getting better.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Everyone's growing as players, and we're coming more together every
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: single week, and we're just building off each week. you
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: guys have been throwing out some different packages the last
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: two weeks just what do you think yeah i think
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: uh i mean we've done some new pressures for the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: first time it's good to learn from them uh trying
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: to just get a feel for what everyone's good at
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that and so we're just trying to
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: build off that we've got more stuff to come how
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: much how much is that learning in game versus in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: practice you need to see that live right yeah no
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: doubt i think just uh Everybody being in-game, getting reps
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: is huge because, you know. It's different in the game.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: It's different speed and stuff like that. So it was
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: good stuff to learn from.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Kind of following up on Tim's question on what teams
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: throw at you, is that something you guys are cognizant of?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Like you're going to get every wrinkle that they're going
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to get?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're a hot state.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Everyone's going to bring their, you know, it's their Super
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Bowl every week, so they're going to have something schemed
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: up for us every single week, and you just got to,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you know, fight through that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: We have the best coaches in the country. They're going
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: to put us in the best spots to succeed.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Peyton, with having Aiden on the defense again, do you
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: feel like there's some kind of still finding the identity
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: of his defense?
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the same for the offense.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You're still trying to find your identity every single game,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: but I think we're coming together and we're battling through
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: adversity and we're coming together. We got the crowd pretty
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: hyped in the fourth quarter, which was fun.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah, everyone's coming together and we're just.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: stacking off each game.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: What do you think your defense can ultimately be when
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you guys continue to build? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: got so much depth that we're comfortable.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Hopefully by the end of the year, we're comfortable putting
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: everyone in there and rolling to be the best defense
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in the country, and that's ultimately the goal at Ohio State.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: What were some of the wrinkles or steam wrinkles.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: That Illinois showed you guys that were maybe.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Tougher than or different than what you'd seen in the past?
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: They just had some good run game stuff. that kind
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of messed with our scheme a little bit. I can
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: make some more checks to help us, um, in those situations. Um, so,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: but yeah, we, we'll learn from it and we've got
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a good opponent next week, um, with Iowa and their
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: run game.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So we're excited for that.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So there we go. That's Peyton Pierce and Peyton, again,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a guy who has been very much criticized by the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Ohio state fan base over the last, uh, well, really
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: since this season started. And I think a lot of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that has to do with the expectations that were put
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: forth from kind of James Laurinaitis, the media, et cetera.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And people maybe realize, okay, maybe he's not quite that
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: type of athlete, but certainly a guy who's a captain
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that everybody loves. And I thought today he played a
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: really solid game. So very happy to see that for
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Peyton Pierce and the, As Mr. Substantial says, I hope
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that Legend gets some real run at running back soon.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And that was an interesting one. As Legend, I watched
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: him warm up. He looked spry. He wasn't wearing an
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: ankle brace. And we didn't see him, to my knowledge,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think he got a single snap today. So
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that was a little like, all right, what's that about?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But even if they had given him
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: some run today, I don't know, would we have seen
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: him at Iowa next week? I'm kind of doubting that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: we will. with the way they play defense. But who knows, man?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But at any rate, I am now going to get
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: ready here in a few after one more of your
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: comments to pass it over to Tom and Tony, who
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: look ready for me. As Trestle's burner says, I feel
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like our offense is at its best when we just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: ignore the run game and let Julian throw every play.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I think today was closer to 60-40 pass run. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: could be wrong. It certainly felt like that. But there's
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: no doubt right now that the passing game, when this
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: offense is at its best, it probably is 60-40. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the passing game is carrying not just the offense, but
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: really the entire team. Because the defense right now doesn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: feel championship level at this point. Certainly not when you're
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: giving up that many explosive plays to Illinois. But I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: do think that we're going to continue to see these
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: guys grow. And like I said, if you clamor for
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the young players all week, you now can't get mad
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: when you take a few lumps, right? It's going to happen.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And they're going to learn and they're going to get better.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But I think all in all, this team's going to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be way better by playing guys like Kari Wilder and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Riley Pettijohn and TJ Alford and letting them take their
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: lumps and It seems like Earl Timmons, I'm sorry, Jake Timmons,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to take any lumps at all. He's just
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: already there. But the youth movement takeover is coming, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: it was definitely fun to see that. So all in all,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a fun game in the Buckeyes. Win by 23 as
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I pass it over to our fellas. Tom, Tony, how
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: are we doing, guys?
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Doing well. I think Jake Timmons is like the human lump.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Like he is a lump.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: On himself and, and then insinuates himself upon others.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Well, there was a play where Jay Timmons like went
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: down and was grabbing his hamstring. And my immediate thought was,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Oh no, what are they going to do without Jay Timmons?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Which is man, you know, I mean, Chuck, you were, you,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: it sounded like you felt like he was maybe okay.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And based on what you saw afterwards, I just, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: just saw him on the field right as it happened.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so shortly after that, Tony spotted him on the bike,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and then we noticed that there was nobody around him,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: which is usually a sign, okay, nobody's around Jay Timmons
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: at this point. When he's just riding on the field
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: two minutes earlier, I think it's probably good.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he looked okay. Like, he was riding the bike.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: It wasn't powering. This was not Lance Armstrong, but he
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: was leisurely stroll, like, you know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: What was not Jay Timmons in a Shelly Meyer spin class,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: but that's not bad.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: And if there's one week when you're not going to need.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: A slot, you're playing in Iowa City next week.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: But we'll go ahead and, Chuck, thanks for handling the
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: first half of this.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: We will take it from here.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Have a good one.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: You too.