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Are the Washington Capitals Stanley Cup Favorites? · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Happen.
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  Speaker 2: Weisday everybody in my hype enough? Am I loud enough?
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  Speaker 2: No matter?
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  Speaker 3: Steve and Ah Smith is well when he starts out,
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  Speaker 3: so can I. What's the difference between us? Well, I'm
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  Speaker 3: older than he is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm leaving it at that.
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  Speaker 3: But anyways, the only thing I can say what's different
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  Speaker 3: about Stephen A. Smith is he thinks the only thing
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  Speaker 3: he knows about hockey is that the pucket black. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Okay, there's a lot more to it than
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  Speaker 3: pocket black, especially we got Mike Santo's in the broadcast.
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  Speaker 3: So but that said, I want to thank everybody for
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  Speaker 3: joining us on this edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 2: We got a really really loaded show hoping.
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  Speaker 3: To get in there with us, and we have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of topics of chat room will be manned by
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  Speaker 3: George Korn. Okay, mister, I need to figure out my
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  Speaker 3: Poe situation, but I'm sure we'll we'll stress that off camera,
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  Speaker 3: but I need I need to have a really, seriously
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  Speaker 3: really movement with him.
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  Speaker 2: And that's an easy one. But I wasn't wild this time. Anyways.
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  Speaker 3: Lucky seven is a number of Mike Santos Penzan Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Ellis is back George II, Corner's back, Jacob Chrisner,
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  Speaker 3: and of course Candy, She's adding a lot more to it.
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  Speaker 2: I have a loaded show.
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  Speaker 3: And the title of the Washington Capitals is Stanley Cup Favorite.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that. Let's get to it rapid fire.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what is of the Stanley Cup playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I'm gonna have to say where we
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  Speaker 3: stand after round one. All finals scores will be discussed
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the show. I do not do
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  Speaker 3: show updates in terms of scores until they are final.
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  Speaker 3: And I can tell you one topic which intrigues me,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll tell you this guy Josh Odor, who's a
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  Speaker 3: fan of the show, comes up with a good one
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  Speaker 3: once in a while. Boy, you hit this one with
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  Speaker 3: the bullseye cam Ward or the Carolina Hurricanes. There's no
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  Speaker 3: relation to cam Ward on the Tennessee Titans. So, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, all staid the New Jersey Devils Florida one
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  Speaker 3: in the series. All right, Mike Santos, what do you
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  Speaker 3: know about cam Ward the football player?
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  Speaker 1: A little bit? Since I live in South Florida, I
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  Speaker 1: think he was probably the right pick for number one
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  Speaker 1: for a team that needed a quarterback. But I can't
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  Speaker 1: say I was overly impressed with that Miami squad that
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  Speaker 1: he led last year. I mean, they were there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously they didn't make the playoffs. There was arguments on
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  Speaker 1: whether they should have been there and shouldn't have been there.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, even a couple of games they won
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  Speaker 1: last year, I think they won by the skin of
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  Speaker 1: their teeth, and even a couple of favorable calls here
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  Speaker 1: and there. So I think the jury's still out onto
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  Speaker 1: what type of quarterback he's going to be in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Sot to talk about the goaltender. I know, you know
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot more about him, don't you. Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was the heck of a goalie, came
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  Speaker 1: at the right time for Carolina when they were still
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  Speaker 1: in their infancy in Raleigh, and brought him a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, he had some good players in front of him,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, he was. He was a heck of a
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  Speaker 1: young goaltender at that time and had a great career.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I said, we had to preserve
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  Speaker 3: the voice. Let's talk about cam Ward the quarterback versus
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  Speaker 3: cam Ward the goaltender. What are your thoughts about those
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  Speaker 3: two guys.
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  Speaker 4: Both awesome athletes. I'm proud of the Tennessee Titans for
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  Speaker 4: getting him. I'm sure he'll do pretty decent with them.
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  Speaker 4: Probably the first year will probably be rough the first
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  Speaker 4: couple of games, but once he knows the system, he'll
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  Speaker 4: understand what to do. And he's a good mobile player.
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  Speaker 4: The cam Ward goalie excellent butterfly goalie. He'll Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: Final person out excellent, excellent goalkeeper.
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  Speaker 3: Jav will save you from losing my voice because he
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  Speaker 3: already knows what the topic is.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me what you think about both.
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  Speaker 5: So Kim Ward got drafted. I thought it was Shador
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  Speaker 5: Sanders that got drafted this week.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, the humor good stuff even going anyway.
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  Speaker 5: You know, cam Ward great, great football player, obvious number
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  Speaker 5: one pick. Tennessee got a good young leader there. And
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  Speaker 5: I think it's even better with the circus around Shadoor Sanders, because,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, everybody's focused on that takes away some
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  Speaker 5: of the pressure of cad Ward being the number one pick.
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  Speaker 5: Cam Ward the goalie don't know as much about him,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I know he's what a Stanley Cup he
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  Speaker 5: he always plays well. Carolina is has another chance to
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  Speaker 5: get back to the Stanley Cup. They are a good team,
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  Speaker 5: you know. But I can't say I know much about
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  Speaker 5: his attributes except that he seems to be a winner
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  Speaker 5: of Carolina, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, George, Well, cam Ward the football player, I'm very
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  Speaker 6: impressed with obviously his composure, his excitement, but he was
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  Speaker 6: acted very professional when he was drafted. I thought it
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  Speaker 6: was a very nice a few words he gave to
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  Speaker 6: the television audience. I think that I agree with Joe.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Miami, it could have been better
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  Speaker 6: last year, but you know, he still has matured very
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  Speaker 6: very well the last few years. I'm looking for big
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  Speaker 6: things from him, maybe not this year, but going forward.
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  Speaker 6: The goaltender, what can I say. He's been one of
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  Speaker 6: the one of my favorites for a long time. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: as you guys know, I'm in Detroit, the Motor City,
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  Speaker 6: and we don't have a starlist a star goaltender these days.
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  Speaker 6: But cam Ward certainly has done a great job with Carolina,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, his years in the NHL just speak
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  Speaker 6: volumes for his career.
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  Speaker 2: Jacob.
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  Speaker 7: If cam Ward in the NFL becomes as big as stars,
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  Speaker 7: I think he can. Cam Ward in the Agel. He
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  Speaker 7: changed his name of Montgomery, but it's still but the
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  Speaker 7: biggest thing, biggest thing with something like this, I love
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  Speaker 7: watching cam Ward go through go through a tunnel.
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  Speaker 8: You notice what his suit was?
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  Speaker 7: Nice and simple but sleek, nothing ridiculous, nothing all that.
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  Speaker 7: He a nice little interview, as little of the interview
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  Speaker 7: as they had because we had to hear about Shadur
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  Speaker 7: Sanders all weekend. But it's like, but here's the deal.
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  Speaker 7: There's no question in my mind they the NFL pushed
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  Speaker 7: the cam Ward to to basically make Shadeur Sanders look
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  Speaker 7: worse in certain ways, Like there was a mean class
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  Speaker 7: slash gift slash video on there showing shadar standers wanting
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  Speaker 7: to get a a music video with Cam and he
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  Speaker 7: said I played football.
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  Speaker 8: They stopped right there.
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  Speaker 7: Now, mind you, the real video shows cam even though
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  Speaker 7: he's a good guy and everything, he's showing him being
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  Speaker 7: cockying himself, saying I'm generational, that sort of thing. But
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  Speaker 7: they stopped it themselves. Every bit of this was too
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  Speaker 7: good and we're not gonna we'll go in too later.
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  Speaker 7: But every bit of this was to be able to
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  Speaker 7: prove the point that they made the right choice of
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  Speaker 7: the number one draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: Candy.
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  Speaker 9: I watched cam Ward down here in Miami. He was
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  Speaker 9: the right number one pick.
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  Speaker 8: Let's face it.
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  Speaker 9: He had success both in his previous stop and in Washington,
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  Speaker 9: I mean and Washington State, and then when he came
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  Speaker 9: to Miami. He'll do well in Tennessee. I was happy
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  Speaker 9: to see that they signed Xavier Restrepo, one of his
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  Speaker 9: wide receivers, as an unrestricted free agent, so he'll have
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  Speaker 9: a weapon that he's familiar with up in Tennessee. So
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  Speaker 9: I thought that was cool. I thought he dressed. He
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  Speaker 9: dressed for success, and I liked that. I appreciate that
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  Speaker 9: as much. And then cam Ward, I mean, he played
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  Speaker 9: the majority of his fifteen year professional career with the
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  Speaker 9: Carolina Panthers. He played his final season with the Chicago
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  Speaker 9: Blackhawks before retiring. He won the Stanley Cup with the
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  Speaker 9: Hurricanes back in two thousand and six. He became the
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  Speaker 9: first starting goaltender to win the Stanley Cup as a
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  Speaker 9: rookie since Patrick Roy.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty six.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty impressive. Well, I'll say what, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to start backwards with the goaltender. I don't predict the
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  Speaker 3: Carolina Hurricanes will win the Stanley Cup at the bulge.
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  Speaker 2: That my prediction in a few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: But they'll tell you they can make a good run
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  Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference. So you need a great goaltender
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  Speaker 3: to stand on his heels to be able to win
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  Speaker 3: the Stanley Cup. Mike Santeles has probably seen that mine
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  Speaker 3: other times. Right, He's one that I think is capable
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  Speaker 3: of doing it. But they have a good goaltender. There's
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  Speaker 3: far as cam wore. Candies pretty much said that this
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  Speaker 3: guy was a number, had an impressive pro day and
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  Speaker 3: twenty minor hurricane prospects out there in the birthplace, but
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  Speaker 3: they all came there to see cam war They had
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  Speaker 3: It was side parking for lots in the media. We
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  Speaker 3: ended up parting in the swimming area to see him.
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  Speaker 3: It was a packed house, but pretty good stuff. Hi Steeve,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for popping in. We appreciate it. So with the
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  Speaker 3: cam Ward, there was no question. Kenny is right rostrepo
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  Speaker 3: as the all time leader and receiving yards passing Michael Irvin.
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  Speaker 3: You bring those two there, that's all that'll be good chemistry.
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  Speaker 3: And again I'm reiterated to the goaltender not to get
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  Speaker 3: to Alex Ovechkin has saved eight million dollars in his
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  Speaker 3: career my negotiating his own contracts and avoiding the five
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  Speaker 3: percent agent. If anybody knows about this better than Mike Santos,
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  Speaker 3: let me point them out, because I don't know anybody
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  Speaker 3: here but your talks about what Oveshka did negotiating for himself.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, I think it's smart, especially for a guy that's
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  Speaker 1: an elite player like him. There's really not a lot
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  Speaker 1: to negotiate. I mean, I've been on this. I've been
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of those negotiations hundreds of times,
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  Speaker 1: and that was when the priory response abilities with the
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  Speaker 1: organizations I was with, was to negotiate contracts. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean when you're alachovetkam arguably one of the top two
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  Speaker 1: or three players in the league every year. And the
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  Speaker 1: way contracts are structured really in all sports now, but
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  Speaker 1: especially in the NHL, with a salary cast system or
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  Speaker 1: the maximum that you can pay a player, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's not much to negotiate. Even even the bonus structures
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  Speaker 1: that they have in the NHL now are dictated by
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  Speaker 1: the Collective Boring Agreement, so there's there's not much to
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  Speaker 1: negotiate there either. So what do you need an agent
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  Speaker 1: four other than you know, he's he's uh, he's done
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  Speaker 1: the right thing, I think, And there really, there really
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  Speaker 1: has been a lot of players that have done that
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  Speaker 1: through the years. One guy I do remember that it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out for and I had him as a
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  Speaker 1: player was Gino ojic Away in the last two years.
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  Speaker 1: But Gino was a native from Canada, grew up on
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  Speaker 1: the reservation and negotiated his own contracts and took advantage
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  Speaker 1: of a treaty that protected Native Canadian Indians from taxes
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  Speaker 1: in Canada. When I was with the Islanders, we acquired
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  Speaker 1: him from Vancouver. He had a salary that of about
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  Speaker 1: a million dollars US per year.
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  Speaker 6: He had.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting story. He was once divorced and so was paying
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  Speaker 1: some alimony on that. Also, when he was traded to
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  Speaker 1: US in New York, he was now subject to federal
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  Speaker 1: income taxes in the United States. For the time that
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  Speaker 1: he worked in the US, he was also subject to
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  Speaker 1: New York state income tax while he was playing for US,
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  Speaker 1: and he was paying alimony and child support to a
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  Speaker 1: previous wife who had two of his children. He came
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  Speaker 1: to me one day in my office and said I'm
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  Speaker 1: being divorced. And this was this was what I thought
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  Speaker 1: was his second wife, and their name was Sarah Poone.
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget the story. And he told me if
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  Speaker 1: being a lawyer, he said, you know, could you help
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  Speaker 1: me the next time we go to Canada, the lawyer
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  Speaker 1: is going to serve me. So I arranged things with
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  Speaker 1: the lawyer and we set it up and we were
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  Speaker 1: actually going I think it was Montreal, and Sarah lived
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  Speaker 1: in in Vancouver and I was talking to lawyer in Vancouver,
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  Speaker 1: and we set it up so that when we went
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  Speaker 1: to Montreal, he was going to be served. And the
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  Speaker 1: day before we we left, I got a fax. In
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  Speaker 1: the old days, he used to get faxes from a
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  Speaker 1: lawyer in Ottawa saying that he represented Elizabeth Pome and
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to talk about her filing for divorce from
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  Speaker 1: Geno Ojak. So of course I sent the word down
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  Speaker 1: to the locker room for Gina to come see me,
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  Speaker 1: see me, and I said, what's this Where I've been
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  Speaker 1: talking with this lawyer in Vancouver and now I get
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  Speaker 1: this from the lawyer in Ottawa and he said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's divorcing me too, And I said what do you
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  Speaker 1: mean too? So he was actually married to two sisters,
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  Speaker 1: had five children between the two of them, ended up divorced.
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  Speaker 1: He was divorced three times with seven kids, and basically
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  Speaker 1: he made nothing on the contract he negotiated. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a wow. It's a sad story of somebody who negotiated
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  Speaker 1: for himself. And also that's mother things a factive as well.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as back to Alex in his situation
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  Speaker 1: and his position, I know, krudos to him for doing
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  Speaker 1: what he did. He deserves to save that money.
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  Speaker 8: Posey morbid?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so all right, let me turn over to Penn
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  Speaker 3: Ben and then I'm gonna go over to Jacob after that.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, every superstar that you have in a game
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  Speaker 4: and a team, you have to restructure a deal that way.
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  Speaker 4: It deceives the salary Cup. And kudos to a Vegkin
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  Speaker 4: for doing that when he had to just to save
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  Speaker 4: his team. So that's why I got with that, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Jacob, Oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 7: I love hearing those stories because you think of going
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  Speaker 7: back to football, you think of Tom Brady, how many
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  Speaker 7: times he did that so he can be able to
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  Speaker 7: build a team. Right Ovechkin obviously, cares about winning the Cups.
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  Speaker 7: Whatever his number may be, he cares about it. He
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  Speaker 7: wants the team around him to win it and everything
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  Speaker 7: like that. And they are favorites in a lot of years.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. He builds it and considering
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  Speaker 7: how many goals he has and what he's been doing,
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  Speaker 7: is it any is it any wonder our title tonight
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  Speaker 7: is about to watch and capitals and sand Cup favorites.
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  Speaker 7: He's been the reason based off dead because he could
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  Speaker 7: have just gotten all of those goals all those years
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  Speaker 7: and on twenty five win teams because they can't build
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  Speaker 7: the air on anything because he has too much money.
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  Speaker 6: An well, I'm not one to recommend whether a player
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  Speaker 6: has an agent or not. I mean, you know, that's
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  Speaker 6: their personal decision. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The
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  Speaker 6: majority of the players have agents. Some of them have
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  Speaker 6: their own father as their agent. I've heard over the years.
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  Speaker 6: The whole thing with me is you better know how
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  Speaker 6: much you want and how are you going to get
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  Speaker 6: it and how you're going to spend it. So more
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  Speaker 6: of a financial advisor. Even if some don't want to
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  Speaker 6: have agents, they need a financial advisor. With some of
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  Speaker 6: these huge salaries that these teams are given out a
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  Speaker 6: Vegekin is a smart man, and so was Max Scherzer,
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  Speaker 6: you know. And you know, some other guys like you
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  Speaker 6: said that that didn't have agents are represented sometimes by
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  Speaker 6: their father. But I know, I I I give him credit,
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  Speaker 6: hats off the remarkable season they've had and uh, and
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  Speaker 6: he obviously had a great season individually. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: mean you need to manage you know, how to manage
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  Speaker 6: that that that cash inflow, and how to defer stuff
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  Speaker 6: and and put stuff in annuities or whatever you're going
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  Speaker 6: to do with all that money. And that's the most
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  Speaker 6: important thing. And uh, if you can get sound advice,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I would go that route first as opposed
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  Speaker 6: to doing it myself. Gave.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a fan of not having an agent.
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  Speaker 5: I get that it's a cut you're going to give
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  Speaker 5: off the top, but a good agent is worth way
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  Speaker 5: more than their cut. That doesn't mean that everyone needs
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  Speaker 5: to have an agent, but an agent just as it
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  Speaker 5: there to negotiate your contract, they're there for what Mike
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  Speaker 5: was saying, if something's happening, they should be their helping you,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they should be getting you endorsement deals. There
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  Speaker 5: all things that you don't have to work worry about doing.
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  Speaker 5: They take all that off your plate. You don't have
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  Speaker 5: to look like the bad guy to the front office.
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  Speaker 5: If something happens and you need something, they're there for
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  Speaker 5: a buffer between you and the general manager. For Antony
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  Speaker 5: saved a.
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  Speaker 6: Lot of money.
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  Speaker 5: It may work in his favor in this particular time,
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  Speaker 5: but it doesn't always work. And I'm not a fan
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  Speaker 5: of guys going out there and trying to be their
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  Speaker 5: own agent.
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  Speaker 8: No, I can't, I think to your point, JB.
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  Speaker 9: I think it depends on where you fall in the spectrum.
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  Speaker 9: Ovechkin is one of the top players, so I think
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  Speaker 9: for him it worked because, like you said, there's a
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  Speaker 9: salary cap and there's only so much you can take.
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  Speaker 9: As far as some of the young players that are
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  Speaker 9: coming up we all heard about, I mean obviously Sanders
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  Speaker 9: and now he had to fire his dad because he
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  Speaker 9: went unrestricted. And then you need an agent to go
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  Speaker 9: start calling for you, and they have context that maybe
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  Speaker 9: you don't have, you know, because they've talked to teams
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  Speaker 9: and stuff like that to get you in. So where
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  Speaker 9: it worked for Avenchkin, and like you said, endorsement deals
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  Speaker 9: like who's who's working all your endorsement deals, who's fielding
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  Speaker 9: all those calls and stuff like that. So I mean
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  Speaker 9: kudos Tokin because it worked for him. You got to
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: make the right decision for you, whether you think you
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: need it or not, and who can help you best
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: for you and who's going to look out for your
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: best interest.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's here's what I think of this whole thing.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Number One, For Alexovetkin, it works out really, really, really well.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why. I do believe that five
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: percent matters. But I'm going to tell you what this
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: really segues for our next topic. So I'm going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: go ahead and lead off with this topic and then
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: send it to everybody else. The reason why it works
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: so well for Avenchkin is this the Washington Capitals five
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Seasons on Topics conference of the among all franchises since
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: two thousand and nine and twenty ten, and tied for
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the most since ted leonsis and I put the word
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: tedd Lee owns. This assumed ownership of the Capitols ahead
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: of the nineteen ninety nine two thousand campaign. The Capitols
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Clinton number one seat in their conference for the fifth time.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: In franchise history with each instance over the last fifteen years. Also,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: they were able to do it in twenty sixteen, seventeen,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, sixteen, twenty ten, twenty eleven. And I can
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: tell you right now, ted leons this is one of
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the best owners in all of sports. I know struggle
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: with the Washington Wizards, but this guy body of work
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: in the NHL is what it is. So Ovechkin's ability
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: to negotiate with Ted Lee owns this to me makes
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: this a fascinating and successful negotiation because the owner knows
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: what the play is worth and the player knows what
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he's worth it the franchise, and when you connect the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: two then it makes it easier. Now I will also
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: say this, I think what Candy was talking about with
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Shiloh Sanders makes a lot of sense. He lands a
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: guy like through howt Rosenhaus. But I'm going to tell
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: you right now jv Ellis would probably agree with me.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: One of the best agents of not the best agent
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: in sports. It leads Steinberg period. The Lee takes care
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: of his people. I was fortunate enough to meet him
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: during the Super Bowl. What a class act he is.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: So when you measure all the layers here, and that's
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: why I wanted to really start off with this one first.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Ovechkin leonsis no brainer. Five percent not a problem because
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Leonsis knows how valuable that what Ovechkin means the Washington
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: area period. All right, Mike take it from there.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So just to finish off what everybody said regarding the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Betch game, He's obviously in a very unique situation, right
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: he didn't unlike Tom Brady, he didn't take one penny
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: less than he was able to get under the Collective
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: roy agreement. He didn't need to negotiate anything. I mean,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: his deal was was done. Every time he needed to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: negotiate or sign a new contract. It was the maximum
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: allowed under the CBA, and that's what he got. He
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: also has a black card too, given to him by Putin,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: has no expenses, and that's true, by the way, it's true.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: But on the Leons side of things, I don't know
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: what everybody else thinks it here, but for me, my
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: experience is that the single most important thing for any
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: professional hockey franchise, and I would probably say any professional
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: sports franchise success or fail is dependent upon the owner
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of the ownership. I look in the hockey world. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: look what happened in Tampa Bay for instance, that organization
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: floundered for years and then one a cup when Davidson
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: had them for a little bit, and then went right
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: back to floundering. And then when they were able to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: change ownership, look what happened to them. I mean the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: way ownership not only treats its players in the organization,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: but hires good people and most importantly, lets those people
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: do their jobs. They don't meddle in things. They make
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: them accountable, and they you know, especially if they make
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: bad moves, but they let them do the jobs. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I see some of the things that you know that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I know happened in Tampa Bay in particular. You know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: they just sold off part of that team a couple
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of years ago, and he went and gave not only
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the people of the organization, but anybody who had worked
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in that organization for him going back when he took
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it over a portion of the money that he received
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: when he sold off is interest team. And so all
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is a but I mean, this is the type of
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: stuff that goes a long way. I can tell you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: when I worked for the Islanders, I often would say
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'm negotiating a contract with so and so player. If
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I could save two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: this contract negotiation, would be the album to take that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and spread it around
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the staff, because you don't understand how much harder and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: how appreciative your staff would be working for the organization.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: But it's just something that I was overlooked by a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people. And my guess is that le owns
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: this is not a guy that overlooks that kind of stuff,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and that's why they're successful.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Right, great point, So earlier on and Mike, before we
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: go around the horn, while we have an opportunity. These
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: guys don't know your background like I do, so just
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: give them an overview about what you've done, okay, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about hot co operation shortly, which is by
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the way, ploperating the show. So just give these guys
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: an overview real quick, and then I'll turn over de
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: pendsman and working around the horn on this and we'll
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: do one more topic leading into a station break.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So go ahead, Mike, all right, So, so I was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a bad hockey player, and uh, and then and then
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: got into management. I was an assistant general manager of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the New York Islanders, the National Predators, and the Quart
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: of Camp on two occasions. Actually, some people would say
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I was a bad manager as well, but we'll keep
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: that up.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I also worked as the commissioner and president of a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: couple of major junior leagues, and also worked a hockey years.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: One of my claims to fame, if you will, A
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: long long time ago, when I was young, I was
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a part of a team of three people that actually
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: created the NHL All Star Weekend, including the skills competition
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in the as a hockey game. So yeah, I was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I was one of eight college roommates and the only
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: one that didn't play a game in the NHL.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: And you've had a passive association with the Florida Panther,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the one, and the Islanders and who else Nashville creditors.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: There you go, So there you go. This guy has
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: been around the horn. So there you old people, the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: kind of guy that's seen it all. Alaa penman. Continue
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: with the Commander's team in ted leonsis as longer as
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: little as you want, all Right.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I'm a Penguins fan, but I give teams where credit
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: is due, Folks pay attention. One about to say, because
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: this doesn't happen very often. The Washington Capitals are a
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: decent team. He starts with the owner and then you
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: go downward. You go with your draft. You've got to
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: be careful who you draft when the draft, and then
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: when you trade, you gotta be careful who you tread.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: The ownership knows who to trade for, who knows how
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to draft. So with winning the President's Cup, to making
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, to making the Stanley Cup Finals, they he
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. So I got to give Washington
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Capitol's a lot of credit for what they're doing. So
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and this is coming from a Pittsburgh Penguin.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Fan, So that's what I know. That's hard, Okay, Jacob
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: at sour Hey.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: Mike, when you did the All Star Weekend, did you
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: come up with the little laser thing on the puck?
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: But I was working for the league when that happened.
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: And that's a really interesting topic because I was in
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: some contentious meetings about that when it was going on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: It was it was right after Gary Batman became missionar.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: He became commissioner in the beginning of ninety three and
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the puck came out for the ninety three ninety four
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: season of Fox had signed a new TV deal with
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the league, which was really the first real network deal
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: at the time that league had had, and they had
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: come up with the idea of the glowing puck. They
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: called it as well as all the other little gadgets
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and gizmos they had. The problem I had with it
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: was it didn't do what it was supposed to do.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to help educate hockey fans. The problem
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was when you put a tail on the puck, it
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't tell you where the puck is going.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: It tells you where the monk was.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to tell you how fast the puck
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: is going. Tells you how fast the puck went. And
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the problem that people had with watching hockey for years
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and years was they couldn't see the puck on the ski. Well.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I would always say that when Nolan Ryan would throw
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a fastball, I couldn't see the fastball on my TV
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: screen either. But I knew the game well enough, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the producers and directors of the TV networks knew the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: game well enough that knew that when he threw the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: ball he was throwing it to the catcher, right, yeah, and.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The thing go ahead.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And when somebody hit a fly ball at
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: center field, they didn't put the camera on the ball
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: up in the air. They put it on the center
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: fielder and subconsciously the viewer understood what was going on
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and where the ball was going. And they needed to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: do more to educate the producers and directors and camera
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: people that were covering the game at that time that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: weren't as educated about the sport in this country as
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: they are even now twenty five years later. They understood that,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you know how the game worked, and you know what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the strategy of the game was that if the puck
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: was here, the options were, it could go here, it
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: could go there, Let's have a camera ready here, to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: have the camera ready there. So I just thought that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the glowing puck was something that just didn't was pose you, Yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And I think that's why I altom it didn't last.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people now give credit to high
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: definition TV. It's certainly helped, but I think it's really
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: been the education of the people that cover the sport,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: meaning the camera people, the bruces, the directors and the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: fact that they've also been able to incorporate better camera angles,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: some of them close to the ice, which really accentuate
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the speed and the physicality of the game. It just
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: makes it better for.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: Absolutely.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: And I didn't like the laser either because by the way,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: I see the puck on the stick when people are
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: going down to the ice like Brett for instance, or
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: I see it on the stick you want know where else,
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: I see it when it's brought down in their icing it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: I still see the puck. I don't need a tail.
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: Another thing, here's here's a deal on this part. There
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: was a there was a podcast that I listened to
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: as like an old pro wrestling manager.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: He said it this way.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: They were talking about how during the time that they
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: were telling the world that wrestling wasn't real, that sort
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: of deal back in.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: The like the n eighties, nineties, that sort they.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: Said what they should have done was smart enough TV
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: not the fans. And I say that with hockey as
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: an example, it's like, give them the one that weren't
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: smart enough to the game, give the producers and the
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: camera guys and everything, give them a class. And it's
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: intensive give them a class, tell them how they so
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: they won't miss anything themselves, and you can be able
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: to do that. They've missed more with that laser. They
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: missed more with that laser than they would have gotten
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: from that in the first place. It's like it was
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: a gimmick, which I don't like the gimmicks in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: first place. But just to bring up real quickly about
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: leonsis he is one of my that is one of
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: my favorite type of owners by itself, completely and positively
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: because I need I need an owner that will make
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: their money. They will make a profit, there's their idea,
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: because that's what a business does.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: But he also wants to.
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: Win because I think of because I think of so
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: many I think of a Bob Nutting in Pittsburgh, and
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: everything is profit obviously because they've got one guy. They've
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: got schemes that'll lose him in two years. And it's
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: like because they're not going to pay him what the
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: market value will be. Everything about everything about him is
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: about winning. And there's not a ton of there's not
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: a ton whatsoever of owners that are like that right now,
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: especially in this new world of the real estate market
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: where they're trying everybody's trying to make more money. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: with that real estate market, you can have a sixty
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: win season if you're in baseball, to a thirty twenty
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: win season and still make a profit. I like one
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: that wants to win.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Really good point. I mean, like what you just said
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: with with Pittsburgh, right and ownership and the Pirates. Look
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: at the difference between the Tampa Bay Rays and the
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Lightning right down to ownership right, and and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: your owner to put the money in there. Now, he
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: can make the people accountable that are making the decisions,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: but he's got to let them make the decisions right,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and he's got to give them the opportunity to do
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: their jobs. And unfortunately, or fortunately in this day and age,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it takes money for these people to do their jobs
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and to keep the players that are good players and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: go out and seek the players that are going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: cost more money.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Interesting points all the way around. George iiicourn Le.
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: Okay, Yes, he deserves credit, and he has made himself
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: quite a quite a strong obviously Stanley Cup contender.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Well, let's not forget the capital has also a lot
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: a lot of people down over the years. He owns
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: one Stanley Cup, not four like Mike Yelich, he owns one.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I'm not trying to say that he's not a good owner.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: All I'm saying is there have been years when they
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: did not live up to their expectations, the Washington Capitals,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: and now they're playing well. It's hard to believe really
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: for me. They beat out the Tiger the Red Wings
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: by one point and this year, this year they win
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: fifty five games. I mean, that was a dramatic shift.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: And congratulations have had had pass off to Ted and
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: his team. But yeah, no, he's had some lean years
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: there too, and obviously with the Washington Wizards basketball team's
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: had a lot of bad teams. But I like his style.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: I do like his style, and I think it's good
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: for hockey and it's good for a professional ownership.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Can j bi ellis the.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Hardest thing in the world for an owner. You know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: who spends back with the otis bought a hundreds of
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: millions now billions of dollars to buy it team. To
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: just be quiet and let the guys you hire, like
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Mike do their job. There's a lot of money at stake.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: It's not easy just sitting in the back and you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: write in checks and giving the front office staff, the
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: support they need. You want to be involved, you know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, a good owner needs to
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: just know where where they need to be. And every
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: organization's different, you know. George Steibrenner had to learn he
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: had a step back and put baseball people in charge
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: like g and Michael and Buck Showalter to start winning.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: So it takes not everyone's cut out to own a team.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Just because you have money doesn't make you a good owner.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Look at Jerry Jones. Would anyone say he's a good
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: order of the Cowboys? Look at what they've done since
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: they went to their Super Bowl runs when he first
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: bought the team. You know, But Leontis is at a
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: great job with the Capitals. But what is he with
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: the Wizards?
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: So does that mean he's a bad basketball owder but
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: a good baseball, good hockey owner?
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: No, I will you great points on the way around
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: George Steinbrenner book show Walter G. Michael. I had a
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: chance to do George Steinbrenner, that's in my book.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Listens on from the micro bro which Candy is about
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: to take a station break. After the next topic, Candy
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: have the last word on less well, of course he does.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Though I will say this, I am predicting the Washington
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Capitals to win Stanley Cup playoffs. My win Stanley Cup
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the year, I promise prediction, Washington Capitols will win it all.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Now putting that on record right now, ted leons the
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Storge I can. We'll get his second Cup and we'll
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: be drinking the bubbly.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: With that said, I had to put it in there. Candy,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: you got the last word. We have one more topics.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: We go to a station break. She'll move along, really
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: really nice to have a lot of great stuff I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: had after the station break, all right.
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: Candice so Leonisis graduated from Georgetown University back in nineteen
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: seventy seven. As of twenty twenty three, he held a
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: net worth of two point eight billion. As CEO of
• 36:09
  Speaker 9: Monumental Sports, he has used the threat of leaving Washington,
• 36:13
  Speaker 9: d C to demand the District of Columbia taxpayers subsidize
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: the operation of his DC based teams. He actually if
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: you look at he is the founder, majority owner, chairman,
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: and CEO of Monumental Sports and Entertainment, which owns the
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: NHL's Washington Capitals, NBA's Washington Wizards, NBA G League's Capital
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: City Go Go, WNBA's Washington Mystics, and formerly the AFL
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: Washington Valor and Baltimore Brigade. Additionally, they own the Capitol
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: One Arena in Washington, d C. And manages the MedStar
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: Capitals ice Plex and George Mason and the University's Eagle
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: Bank Arena. So he's got a lot on his plate
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: if you think about all those teams that he's involved in,
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: and as he's the CEO of that company that owns
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: all of those, it's it's interesting because as I look
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: at some of the fan bases that I'm a part of,
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: like the Green Bay Packers, they don't have a majority
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: owner like this. They're owned by the fans, which is
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: one of the very different than a lot of the
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: other teams. But he's obviously had some success, maybe not
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: as much as some of the other others. Will Washington
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: do it this year? That remains to be seen. But
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: with that being said, we're going to go to a
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: station identification.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: More actually this topic, but because it's a really short one,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: we won't have to go along on this one. But
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: we touched it on it last week. Mike and I'm
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: going to re entering on it again. So this brute
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: the Boston Bruins records and firing Jim Montgomery was twenty
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: twenty seven and six. The Blues iron him are thirty two,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: sixteen and six. We talked about them, Mike. Now you
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: have the records. What are your thoughts about what took
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: place there? With this record? You talk about the Boston
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Brewer not making the playoffs, little wone finishing dead last.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling there's a lot of long days
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: ahead for them. And we know that the Blues are playing,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and we'll talk about them a little bit later.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: From talk to Mike, Well, I think Boston Bruins GM
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Don Sweeney, who's a friend, really got himself into some
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: problems the last several years. I'll say, and I won't
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: include Ken neely On in this because I think ly
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: or fortunately, he's uh, he's protected because of his status
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: as a as a legendary player are in Boston. Also
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: not the GM, he's the president at least entitle But
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: let's not forget that Sweeney maybe listened to the players
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a little too much and did the team of Bruce Cassidy,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: who then went to Vegas the very next year and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: won the Stanley Cup in Vegas. Uh we brought in
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Jim Montgomery, who in his first season coaching the Bruins
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: set the record for you know, most points in the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: season by an NHL team of all time. And then
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know, early in his third season in Boston and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: they arguably had a successful season. The following year, they
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: both years they got knocked out by the eventual Stanley
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Cup finalists Florida Panthers. And and then he moves into
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: this season and I think again it just shows you
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: where the where the power is shifted now to players,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: particularly in hockey. He got rid of another coach who
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was very successful there, and this coach walked into the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis team that was in the bottom of the heat,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, was one of the best teams for
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the last half of the season and now is now
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: is deadlocked with the best team in the Western Conference
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: to maybe win this round series. So you combine those
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: two coaching blunders where I truly believe he just listened
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to players who are complaining too much. With the fact
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that he really screwed up his goaltending situation last year too.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: He had two good goaltenders that were splitting time in
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the last two years. And he had one one guy
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in Omark that was signed. He had an other guy
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: in Swaying, and he was coming up for a contract.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And what did he do. He traded all Mark before
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he negotiated a contract. But Sway he moved all Mac out,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: all Mark out, and then Swaying all of a sudden,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: his agent Anyway upped his demands and said, I want
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: eight million dollars the year for eight and and they
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: said no, and they leave any camp and he and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: he forced his hand and uh, they ended up giving
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: him what he wanted and now they're screwed. The kid
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: was very disappointing this year. I couldn't live up to
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the to the money and they're stuck with him. So, yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the Bruins in a tough spot. They moved on, you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: their captain, Marshaan, you know, good or bad, they're they're
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: probably not going anywhere with him. But they started they
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: decided to draw the line with marsha On in his
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: contract extension negotiat our negotiations, and so they moved them
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: out at the trade deadline. The other problem, I mean,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you guys are the Detroit fans here and even the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh fans on this podcast understand is it's not a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: twenty one team league anymore, and you've got a salary
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: cap to manage. So when you're in that window to win,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you've got to stay in that window as long as
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you can to give yourself a chance to win. The
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: whole thing. The problem with that, besides making some tough
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: decisions on some good players for financial reasons, is that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: now you're drafting thirty second in the first round instead
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of twenty first or twenty second. And there's a lot
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: difference when it comes to drafting hockey players that you're
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: watching play when they're sixteen and seventeen years old. There's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a big difference between you know, winning the championship and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: drafting the twenty first best player compared to now, with
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the league at its size, the thirty second best player.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: It's much more difficult to build your team through the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: draft than it used to be. And that's also a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: problem for those teams that are sort of stuck in
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: that middle forever, right I mean, that's that seems to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: be where Detroit is right now. They're in that middle ground.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Where they just can't get the big time draft pick.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's finding themselves in that area now too. They let's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: face it, they lucked into Mariel Lemue followed by Sydney Crosby.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And when I say lucked into, they happen to have
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the first pick, you know, once by lottery when those
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: guys were available. But how often are those guys available
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: once or twice every twenty years or so. We just
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: saw what happened with Chicago, who stayed in the window
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of winning as long as they could, finally went to
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the bottom, ended up winning the lottery and in my opinion,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: made the wrong pick. They took Baguard Connor Beguard with
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: all the pressure on what you know, Connor Burgard going
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to be the next superstar. And the Sharks who lost
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the lottery with the second pick fell into Celebrini, who's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the better player. So it's uh, the leagues are in
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: all sports, the leagues are bigger now. It's even more
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: difficult to build through the draft. I mean they look
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: at the NFL. We just saw it's it's a big
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: difference between having and picks one through three, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to ten through thirteen to twenty through twenty three to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: thirty through thirty two, right, and that's that's what we're seeing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And Boston. Boston's in a heap of trouble.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, Pathman, I deferral this one.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, no problem, So I'll defer to the fact that
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: the Washington Capitals want tonight's game four to one to
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: eliminate the munch you Canadians as your first final to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: night the Capitols taed Lee Oltis, Alex Oveskin moving on
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: the round two? All right, you know what, jab Ill
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: has some thoughts.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a huge Washington fan. I think Carol
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: Lotta stuns them in the playoffs here.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: As far as far as the Blues and the Bruins,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: what's your thoughts about Jim Montgomery obviously leaving one and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: landing a better job that season.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Mike on this one. Sometimes
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: things just don't work out either. Players have input, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: you know, nowadays players have more input than ever before.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: That would never happen years ago. You know, it's sometimes
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: you know, your message just doesn't get through the group
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: of guys that are in that locker room, but you
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: go somewhere else and you know you're new. It's like
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Buck Showalter. I had the opportunity to cover the Oreos
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: the year after Sholwarter Showalter up and I spoke a
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: bunch of the beat reports that covered the team throughout
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: the years, and they said Buck was great. But the
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: problem with Buck was his his show. His act wore
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: off after a couple of years. You know, everyone loved
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: him at the beginning. By year three it was like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: get this guy out of here. You know, he was hard,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: it was a lot of work, and people just got
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: tired of him. And you know they sometimes that just happened.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: It's just pleasure.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Everybody has different things that respond make them respond, and
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: sometimes you know, even though you could be the best coach,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: best manager in the world, it just doesn't work out
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: in that situation.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can I can?
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I I think that's a really good point that JB
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: made at the end there. You know, it used to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: be the old some guys need a kick in the behind,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: some guys need a pat on the head, right, and
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that was part of coaching and managing and everything else.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: But now it's like nobody wants to kick in the behind,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: so you better on the head and and in the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: hockey world anyways. The media now is controlled by podcasts
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and and who are the leaders in the hockey world
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: with podcasts and social media. They're former players and not
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: only former players but recent former players. It was like
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: missing curfew, which is upshot Scottie Upshaw and she and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: O'Brien uh spitting chicklets with Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonette,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: like these are the guys that have all the influence,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and they are the guys that are connected to the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: players and not management, not ownership, and so everything's being
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: directed at like you know what the players want, and
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you know again, it's it's it's a it's a culture now,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: at least in hockey and I think probably other sports
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: too when you see some of the stuff that's been
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: going on with the football and especially basketball, where guys
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: are just like they want don't don't kick me in
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the behind, just pat me on the head. If you
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: don't pat me on the head, I'm I'm gonna you know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up to the media and you'll be gone.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Interesting Interesting from both all right, George Iichorn.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: H I'm so mixed up here. I what was your
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: original question Scott.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Well, my original question was a Bros. Record then firing
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Jim Montgomery, Blues hiring thirty two.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Well, Detroit tried to wave that magic wand too, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: they almost got away with it, but it didn't happen. No,
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: this is not unusual. Coaches come into different situations, different teams.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: What is unusual, though, is you know when they're when
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: they're able to make such a dynamic impact, which Saint
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: Louis is doing right now in their fight to get
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: a victory in the first round of the playoffs. You
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: know this is he's a good coach, He's a solid coach,
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: and things went sour so much in Boston. I I
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: feel kind of sorry for him because I know that
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: that was has always been a very strong franchise, one
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: of the original six, always good coaching, good players over
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: the years, and things just weren't going right anymore. And
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: the old motto is a change of scenery. Change of
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: scenery works a lot for players, but it also works
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: for coaches. And what can I say? The Blues made
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: the right higher. They did a good job and plucking
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: him the Blues.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, good point, George, all right, Jacob.
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: All right, Mike, I was gonna bring this waiting my
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: time on this. You were an assistant GM. Correct, Yes,
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: let me bring this part up to you, because these
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: guys heared enough from me, so you're gonna hear it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: One of the first times you keep saying the players
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: have the power. You're correct, the players have the power.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: But there's one more power that does not deserve to
• 49:47
  Speaker 7: have power, but they do. Anyways, the moron fans. You
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: talk about these podcasts from these players. Players, mind you,
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: they played, but the morons listen. Morons think they know
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: what they're talking about, the fans, and then they say.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Fire him, fire him, fire the.
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: First two game losing streak, and guess what this is
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: what happens by itself. It happens in football, it happens
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: and hockey happens in basketball. The thing is, since you
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: were absistant GM, you're the first one I've ever talked
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: to that I've wanted to say this. I did it
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: by itself. It's like, take one part of the power
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: structure away. Quit listening to fans, quit giving them the
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: time of day, ignore them. And I'm talking about the
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: owners too. I'm just saying that it's like you can
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: be able to answer in the second I think. But
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: here's my thing about the Jim Montgomery it's the same
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: as Craig Berub and Craig Berub and when he came
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: on in there and they came completely rescued him. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: then after that, the only thing I have he completely
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: rescued him. They got Stanley Cup, the first one. The
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: whole thing I have now is after Jim Montgomery saved
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: the hypothetically he gets a cup, will they have an
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, will they have the sophomore jinks?
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: Will they have that again? Or will they continue their success?
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: Because I just remember twenty nineteen to twenty twenty and
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: that was just that. But that's just my whole thing, Mike,
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: if you bring that part up the player, I'd rather
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: the players have power because as much as the players
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: have power, I'd rather they have the power because they're there,
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: they're in the locker room, they have the thing, they
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: go through contracts, they do all that stuff. Same with
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: all that stuff they the owners and everything in front
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: office is listen to fans too much.
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: And I don't know why.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, the uh, the fans have too much
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: of us say in what's going on in these teams.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: But they have no downside, right, they have nothing to risk.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: They're not going to lose their job. You know, they
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: could go on the sports radio or listen to podcasts.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: They can tell they're friends they should trade this guy
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: or not play that guy. And if they're wrong, So
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: what I say this, I agree with you. I think
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the fans have too much to say. And I don't know.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know why in sports organizations still cater to
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and listen to the fans so much because their money
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: isn't coming from ticket sales anymore.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: Well, this is the thing about it. You're correct.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Look the money's coming from broadcasting dollars in all sports.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: And real estate and all that stuff. But see that's
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: but see this is the thing even if it came
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: from tickets, hypothetical, even if it came from tickets.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: This is the thing about this.
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: A lot of these idiots that are blabbing off, they
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: are working, They are living off of rage, alcohol and gambling.
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: They don't know what they're saying. They say, I'll never
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: come back to this game again. If you don't get
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: rid of this guy, they'll be back. They will fill
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: this the first two game winning street. They will fill
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: the stadium. They are living their emotional knit wins. They're
• 53:08
  Speaker 7: living off that. And it's like the thing is they
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: get their bluff called all the time, and then you
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: get the new loose people then like I'll just say
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: the Milwaukee Bucks. It's like, oh no, Adrian Griffin's too
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: tough on us. We gotta get let's go get Doc
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: Rivers at thirty and thirteen. They do this in these
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: sports all the time. Too often.
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: It is that is the biggest thing.
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: Is there gonna be one owner or one GM or
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: one anything that is going to be like you fans
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: know nothing, You're not in the grind.
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: You don't know a thing. Call their bluff.
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: I guarantee the first couple of game winning streak they'll
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: be back.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know this is going on for a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: while though. I think it's an important thing you bring up, Jacob.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It's let's not forget that. I don't want to include
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: everybody in this, but I'll include myself. Like we're old, okay,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: we grew up watching sports like we'd put on a
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: ballgame or a hockey game or whatever, and we'd actually
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: watched the whole game, right, Like we have information and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: statistics and learn the game. That's not what That's not
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: what young people do.
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 54:19
  Speaker 12: Most young people that I know, they don't watch an
• 54:22
  Speaker 12: NFL football game. They put on the red zone and
• 54:25
  Speaker 12: they're worried about their fantasy team, right, And just like
• 54:28
  Speaker 12: you're saying, Jacob, and what's happens if they're fantasy players
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: not doing well? They just get rid of them, pick
• 54:33
  Speaker 12: up another player.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: And this is how they sports, right, Like everybody's disposable,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and I try this, and if it doesn't work, we'll
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: try that, and if it doesn't work, we'll try this.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And it's his fault fall, it's everybody's fault. And oh,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not going to watch the game though.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you know, I got to go do
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: something else.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: It's that's that's what we have. And I would I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: would say that twenty years from now, definitely thirty years
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: from now, there won't be a podcast like this with
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: people on it. They have experience from actually watching sports
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: their whole life and watching game after game and having
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: stories they can tell about remember that game and I
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: went to that game, and yeah, people, they aren't going
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to have these types of stories or these conversations. They're
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: not going to have anywhere near the knowledge about the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: about the sport, even though they have all this information
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: easily accessible.
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: To Well, they're too busy just saying they're too big.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: I mean, they don't want to look that part up.
• 55:29
  Speaker 7: That's because we have something called TikTok Ooh look twenty seconds.
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: You know they have those. That's all of it, that's
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: what they got. It's like it's like the eight second fish,
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Adhd, That's exactly what it is,
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: and that's what they do.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Do any George, do any kids know how to keep
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: scoring a ball game anymore?
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: Not really?
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Rarely? Yeah.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I mean we sit in front of the TV when
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: we're kids and make our own little lineup cards and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: looking so I'm going to put it backwards, Kale my
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: card right, like yeah, that's right.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: All right, Candy. What are your thoughts of all this?
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot, there's a lot in there. Like Dust,
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: I think times have changed so much that even me,
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: as a manager of employees.
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: That you have to learn how to.
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: How to manage them, how to coach them, because everybody
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: wants something different. You know, some people want public praise,
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: some people want quiet praise. You know, do the fans
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: have too much? Say oh yeah, oh yeah, that's for sure.
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: And we've become such an instant society that we want
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: results instantly, and some of us that are Mike, like
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: you said, I mean, I'll put myself in this. I'm
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: not the youngest person on this panel, even I've been
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: around the block a couple of times. We've become such
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: an instant society that we want results now. So if
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: I hire a coach today, I want to see you
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: winning this first year already. And if I don't get that,
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: and I don't get the results I want, or somebody
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: in the in the organization says that, you know, I
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: could be a superstar of one of the teams and
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: says he's not getting along with them, Bye bye coach,
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: or and it's it's it's crazy that we've come down
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: to that. I think we've seen the last of like
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: the long tenured coaches, because I don't think they're going
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: to put up with all of this, as we've seen
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: some before, like the Bill Belichick in the NFL, Like
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: now he's in college and I don't with nil, I
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: don't know how long you'll see you'll see burnout of coaches.
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: I think you're going to see that more and more.
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: And with some of the superstars dictating things, I think
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: you're gonna see less and less and more burnout in
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: the coaching or manager ranks.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, since jb Ellis is back on the show, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: have to do this. Okay, listen okay, because he doesn't listen,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: you know, here's what I have to say on it again, JV.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a good in person or not,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: but I'm trying to get it right anyways. Like Jacob,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: he is consistent. I don't care what fans think at all.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: George Aikhorn and I can probably attest. Being in a
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: press box to me is like being in the penthouse.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I don't have to listen to them. I can stay
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: away from these people. I don't like to go to
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: games with fans because they get on my nerves. I
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: can't work. I go to these environments simply to work.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: If I want to listen to them babble through their
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: alcohol and their high calorie meals and whatever else they
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: want to throw out their fine, I don't want to
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: know part of it. So listen, you know, we all
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: know that it's a win now gratification. If you don't
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: believe me, tell me why Dan Bilesman got booted after
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: one year with the Seattle Crack and after Dave Hackstall
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I thought did a pretty decent job. It should have
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: given them one more year in the first place. But
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: that's another story. I don't care what you're saying. Well whatever, Okay,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: you know you can defer all you want, but now
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: you don't have to defer, okay, because now the MotorCity
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: manmouth rowing there baby. And I didn't mind staying lasting
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: because I enjoyed the entertainment that I won't look my
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: voice on the show because I got plenty of people
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: to make sure I don't lose it. But anyway, listen there, JB.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: We're gonna get it right by the end of it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: But the bottom line.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Is is this Jason, as always is on point.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care what the fans think, you think.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit here, and as a media person, I'm
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: not gonna ask a guy whether he's on the hot
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: seat either. I won't do it because that particular person
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: and George don't say it. I'll do it for you.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: When Steve Weiserman was presented this question the other day.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: I get paid by the illagis, not the fans and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: the reporters.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: And he's right.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I think Steve Wiserman will be fine with that one
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: top free agent and some decent draft choice. He's drafted well.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, I don't care. The fans
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: are gonna say what they want, big deal. I don't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: care because here's the thing that I've learned being on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: the inside, Mike, being on the inside, when I've talked
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: to general managers, that don't it before we get inside
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: information of how they think. So therefore I'm the last
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: guy in the world's gonna sit here and second guess
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: the guy. If I thought it was so good at
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: the job, don't you think I'd.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: Apply for it?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: No, the only thing I even came close and I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: bombed on this one. And Bill Keenes went to Arizona
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: when the the Lions were playing Arizona State. And here's
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: what ended up happened. Okay, I gave him a stat
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: sheet of Joey Harrington. Is what I ended up doing.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: And what do you think ends up happening?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: There?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Here you go, I saw Joey Harrington blow out, have
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: some incredible numbers when he was at Oregon and how
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: do what do you think happened? The Lions drafted Joey
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Harrington and he didn't work out so well.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: So I knew to stay out of that seat.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Although Bill not a gentle matter, I just gave him
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: a souvenir of a great quarterback that lit up that
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: lit it up, you know, Arizona.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm staying.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Out of that arena.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do it, man, I don't care period,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: end of the story. But now we go to that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: station break and as we wait for Jacob Christler to
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: come back on, and I reiterated his point, Jacob, the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: only thing you missed was I am not a general manager.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: And when I handed.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Bill Keenness, they played by playoffoll. Well, Joey Harrington did
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: the Lions draft them?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: He didn't really do that bad.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: I think the thing Harrington fell victim to was having
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: so many coaches and coordinators in a short period of time,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: and that rectum like it does with every other quarterback.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: I am not in the business to go out there
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: and be a general manager. I asked questions just because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: I want to learn from these guys and they have
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: to deal with it with their employer. And it's just
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: too bad that everybody's going to win now mode. But
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of money being spent on these players,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: like millions of dollars, So everybody's looking to win a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: little bit quicker two the three years. And look how
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: many head coaching vacancy as there are in the NHL.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: And that'll be for another day and another time.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: What the one thing the fans say, and I say,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: I want Mike to hear this what I've said, This
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: one thing that the fans always says, I've got high expectations.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing about what their high expectations are. Their
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: ideas that they bring out are they're gonna help to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: make the team lose. But even if they help make
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: it win, it's one cup, one ring one. They just
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: want to see it for their own selfishness.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: They don't have a long term deal. And that's the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: big thing that I have with it. And personally to me,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: the different between me and other fans. And I can
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: say this, Mike, I want your job, even if it's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: an assistant to GM. I want that that I would
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: not mind going right into that grind and doing something
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 8: Those people wouldn't last two minutes.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Good point. All right, now the time for a station.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, Mike, you get last bird.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I don't use only fans, just so everybody knows.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Well you've been in that seat
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: for you know how everything goes? Jay, Oh, glad to me.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I want your job. Okay, no problem, but you have
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: to come on. You have to wear that hat that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: we gifted yet. All right, we'll go to a station
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: of break candy, I'm blink, a few more topics to
• 1:03:56
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• 1:04:02
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:05
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• 1:04:08
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• 1:04:10
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  Speaker 3: All right, Let's stay in Boston for a few moments,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: and that's it's a Boston Celtics sale of six point
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: one billion dollars for passes the NFL's Washington Commanders at
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: six point oh five billion, for the highest sum ever
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: for a North America's sports team. Builchish own managing partner
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: of Symphony Technology Group, bought the Celtics from the groups
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Back family. Nobody more familiar with that area than Mike
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Santos or your thoughts about the Boston Celtics catching this
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: amount of money.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's crazy in all sports, the value
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: of these franchises right now. Right the Florida Panthers ten
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: years ago were bought by Vinnie Violo for about a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: reported about one hundred and twenty eight million, of which
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: about million was dead, and now they're valuated over two
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: billion dollars. I think it's just crazy the way the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: value these franchise have been inflated. I mean, to me
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: that it all started. You want to talk about the Celtics,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It all started in basketball, and it started in basketball
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: when Balmer stuck his nose in there and everybody was
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: bid and four and five hundred million for the Clippers,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: and he came in and blew everybody away with two
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: billion dollars right and from there it's just taken off.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: But it's it's yeah, I mean, it's outrageous. And again
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's all built on ev money and social media.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: And when you look at the value of NBA teams
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: like the Celtics, I mean I guess some of that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that they did two players.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: There are two star players right now, Brown and Tatum
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: make over sixty million a year each. Like that, it's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: just outrageous. And then and then you know they're not
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: like this, at least not yet. But when I look
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: around the NBA with all this load management garbage it's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: going on, and guys that don't want to play, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: guys rolling around on the court every time, like like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: the guy out in LA every time, you know, he
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: pretends that he gets spot. Yeah, yeah, he runs around
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: on the on the floor. It's ridiculous. But I don't know.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, as a Celtics fan, I'm glad it went
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: to a local guy. I think, uh, I think what
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the owner did last year, he knew he was selling
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: the team, he went out and uh, he renewed every
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: single guy on that championship team last year and brought
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: him back and basically going to be the next owner's problem.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: So this is easy. I don't have to be a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: bad guy and start cutting contracts loose. I'll just sign
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: everybody and the next guy will come in and buy
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: it and it'll be his problem. But it's it's outrageous.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I think what these are valued at. And I come
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: from the hockey world where although like we just talked
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: about le owns this ca Andy said, his net worth
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: is like two billion dollars like that is nothing compared
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: to the average net worth of an NFL owner or
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: NBA owner. I always thought in the hockey world that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: most of the guys that were buying those teams, although
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: much more wealthy than at least me, I don't know
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: about you, folks, they didn't compare to the owners when
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: it came to wealth in other sports. And that's why
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: hockey often had a lot of owners that really had
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: no background in hockey. This was just the professional sport
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that they could afford to own. But I don't know,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I'd be worried that a lot of this that a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: lot of this inflation of of are valuations of teams
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: is u is very dust and make believe.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, every team goes through this. And I'm glad that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Mario mu saved the Penguins when he did. They were out,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: they went up for there. Mario Lemuse save the Penguins
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: bottom out, then took it over from Ray Sharrow ship.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: Ray Shirow died and then they have this this GM
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: it just goes over. Now the Commanders they're talking about
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: selling their team. Dan Sneyder bested up the team. They
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: made the NFC Championship game last year. We'll see what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: happens this year with them. Every team goes through this,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: we'll go. So whoever picks them, Glad Boston's doing well.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: They they're they aren't. They're on the verge of repeating.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: So that's my take on that.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Trying to add something before you go, because you know
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: what he just said Hensman just said is uh, it's
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: interesting because the Penguins, like you're right, Mary lem YOUU
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: stepped in and saved them out of bankruptcy, right and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: really was the reason why they were able to be
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: successful for the next twenty five years. But now they're
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: owned by Fenway Sports Group. Mm hmm, okay, right, give
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: a darn about the Penguins. Just the Penguins are just
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: part of their portfolio with Liverpool and you know when
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the auto racing teams lay own and everything else, and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: this is where we're at, right, I Mean, we see
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: all these sports franchises that are selling pieces off to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: private equity firms and and this is what's driving up
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the so called value of these teams. But are they
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: really making them better? I mean, are they making they
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: making sports? They're just all part of their big portfolio
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: for social media or whatever else they're involved in.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: He's not making the pay much better, that's for sure.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let me let me set the records
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: train with you, Pens. Then okay, Daniel Snyder sold it
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: to Josh Harris, so he's with Josh Harris buying the team.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: You get Magic Johnson involved in what do you think
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: you have? Magic knows how to win. Josh Harris is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: a really good owner, and the commanders. I'm gonna until
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: later on the show, so we'll leave it at that, JBL.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: You know, the valuation in sports is completely ridiculous nowadays.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: It's team's values are ridiculous, player salaries are ridiculous, ticket
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: prices are absurd. You know the fact that regional sports
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: networks are going bankrupt nowadays, we have teams that own
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: their own regional sports networks, which is genius. Pull the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: money in house, you know. And I heard yesterday that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: Yes actually bought out or was about to buy an MSG,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: which is phenomenal. The Yankees little control all of New
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: York sports except for actually no, I think except for whatever.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: Is on the Mets station.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: But who cares whatever the Mets have because their garbage anyway,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: except for Steve Coda. I like the guy. He's he's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: the new steinburner, but I'm a Yankee fan, so I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: have to hate him.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: It's, you know, kind of like light a owner right on,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: right on.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: You bought the rug.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: Team, you know, but it's you know, good for the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: good for the previous owner, get your money, and you
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: don't want to do it anymore. I love the fact
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: that he signed his guys. But similar similar to hockey
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: where we're talking about Ve Good, I mean the salary
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: cap in the NBA nowadays, your top guys get what
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: they're going to get. You know, it doesn't really change much.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: It's good.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: It's a good move, you know, give her everybody their buddy.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: The new guy knows what he has to deal with
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: as far as pricing. He knows this is going to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: be a salary and move on and to go forward.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: Everything's done. Uh and you know what, the Celtics are
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: still going out there and winning. They're probably gonna get
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: to another championship. Series, and I can't really con play
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: the Celtics or the Celtics. I mean, there's only one
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: of them. And thank god the Lakers with Lebron are
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: about to get beat out of the playoffs. How he's
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: getting pushed around by Anthony Edwards and he wants to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: even be considered the goat conversation.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: The man is a joke. You know.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: I wish I could get my son into the NBA.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: But I don't have a son, nor do I play
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: in the NBA. But if I did, I do a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: better job than Lebron would to get him.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: In the only thing I'll say about the Sun thing is,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Mike can't. Bucky is so smart. He's smart.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: Any of them I got, you would get him as
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: a fifteenth pick. I don't know what pick Bronny was,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: I forget, but he wasn't fifteen. He was later than that.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: You'd get Bucky as a fifteenth I'll take him.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. He does more than candy
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: mind games than anybody I've ever seen. We got a
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Harvard cat Our house. Let me tell you at Boots,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: he's just a nice little child. He's just a nice
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: little boy. He doesn't all he is is follow follow
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: the brilliance, and I'm gonna before I prefer the George
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Jacob and Candy here's what I'm going to say about
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: the whole thing. Number one, Mike, you make an excellent point.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: The guy didn't he re signed all of his players
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: and they're competing for yet another title. He did not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: short change and he deserved to get six point one
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: billion dollars. Let's talk about Steve Boehmer. Remember that franchise
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: was in a heap of trouble because he had Donald Sterling, right,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: I think it was the racist So that was an
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: absolute train wreck. What do you think happened? Steve Boehmer
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: buys a team, You're bringing new energy, a new owner
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: that there's a lot of money, they're competitive again. And
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: what happens you build the intwo It Dome and then
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: you bring on Tyron Lews. So the Clippers did everything right,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: and you've got stability with yet another NBA team in
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: LA with the Clippers, who've always been second run anyways,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: and here's a little footnote to that. They actually have
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: a farm team called the San Diego Clippers as well.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: For those of you that are historic people, So there's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: a little piece of information. But with Steve Palmer's unbelieva here,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: he runs a great ship over there. I'm glad Jeff
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Van Gundy landed there as a defensive coach. I think
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: he deserves another opportunity somewhere.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Anyways.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: But when you compare and contrast the situation, more power
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: to the Celtics guy. It really has dollars. All you're
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: doing is buying a championship team. You're not buying damage goods.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: All you're buying is on Iconicy with twenty some odd
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: championships anyways, or it was at eighteen. I'll get the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: twenty before it's over with. But that's what they're buying.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, you're right, You're right, Scott. I mean
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, he he they were the championship team.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: He went out and renewed all these players. So that's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: why he was able to get the money he was
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: able to get for this thing. But when we're talking
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: about media companies and private equity, let's not for ourselves.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: The future of it's going to drive all sports and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: going to drive ownership is gambling. That's what's true. I mean, like,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: look at all these you know, Ballely's went under last year,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: and now who are a lot of these teams broadcasting
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: their games with FanDuel games like this is that's the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: future it's going to be. You know, all these sports
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: are going to be driven by gambling.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Well you can already see it everybody. One of these
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: days they'll bring a gambling expert. That's another thing. And
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: like Jay says, gambling, Look what fantasy sports did the sports.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Well there you go.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I'm that's just gonna make the fans worse, cha right.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: And and by the way, I was gonna say this,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 7: and here is the second George, because I'm just gonna
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: say this part. I'll get it to you. The one
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 7: thing you bring up you brought up with named Fenway group.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Group. Group.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: You brought that part. It's a group now. Larry Bird
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: actually read this in an interview. He wanted to get
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: a group together to buy the Celtics few years ago,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: but they priced him out and then Birt's got a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: nice amount of money. So you's telling you something. But
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: here's the thing. If the Celtics weren't winning and getting
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 7: as close as they are and winning all these titles
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: and getting chances people would have found that out. They
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 7: would have because Bird is legend there. So Boston is
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: what they're doing. But by one more thing before this,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: by the way, Scott, Yeah, Balmer's not done everything correct.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 7: I can say one thing. He made a mistake. He
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: got James James Harden on that team. You don't win
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: a title at all with James.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Well, you gotta wait a minute, hold it, really, seriously, really,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: you gotta be against James Harden.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 7: I know I've been saying this. I've been saying this
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: for thirteen years.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I know that's why you have a benna against them.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: I have to just say what I say.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: I know I say what they're saying. Yeah, I mean
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: you're you're looking to pick this guy baller part. But
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: we had to have a James Harden reference.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: That's what will because I haven't saying it before the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: other people got into it.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I know you're consistent. Really seriously, really, James Harden, I
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: can't believe heard his name on the show again.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 12: Well let's remember, let's remember Lebron is a member of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 12: the Fenway Sports Group and the only.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Reason they weren't seriously considered for the Celtics ownership is
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: because the league's gonna give them the Vegas franchise.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: That's already been trauma.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: So now Mike Sandos wants to get in Weld with
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: an NBA show with me. Oh, I'll think about that.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: I gotta eight topic when you come back on here again.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: Be brought that up.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: You just gave me an idea of Mike and wants
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: an idea's days with me. It doesn't go away. Good stuff, though, Jacob,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: I knew that there was a James Hard reference. I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: just didn't know what it was coming. But I'm glad
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: you did it on this platform. All right, George Iiicorn
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: and the old piano? What what are you jumping up
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: or notes with this topic? Then we turned over to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Candy and we have a couple more other things we're gonna.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Get to go ahead, Okay.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: So there was a net one thousand, seven hundred percent
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: return on that six point one billion dollar NBA sale.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: I'll repeat that, the Boston Service owners net one thousand,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: seven hundred percent return. Now you know you're talking about
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: one of the glamorous franchises like Scott alluded to. We're
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: not talking about here the Washington Wizards We're talking about
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: eighteen time NBA champions, So of course this price is
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: going to be exhorbed at no question about it, just
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: like the Lakers, or the Dodgers or the well, you know,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: the Yankees. I mean, let's not hit ourselves. The price
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: is ridiculous. I agree, everything that's been said. You know,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: everything's driving this up. You know, the huge television contracts
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: are negotiating. Teams get so much out of that pie
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: and all the other naming rights, and of course all
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: the brand, the merchandise they sell and everything. High ticket
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: prices I believe my friend Jabi were mentioned. But that's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: what it is now. That's what pro sports is these days,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: and it's not going to get any different anytime soon,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: I don't think so. Detroit Pistons are sold to a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: guy who loves to sit in the front row and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: he likes to wear his clothes like he's back in
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: the nineteen eighties at a disco dance. Tom Gores a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: platinum equity. Does that sound familiar? Equity? Another guy making
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: money and then putting it into a sports team with
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: very mixed results, as you guys know, until this year.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: So all I'm saying is that Yeah, this is craziness.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: This is the way it is. This is the boardroom
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: in the wall streets of national sports, and I don't
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: see it changing anytime. So on these high prices for
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: these franchises, all right, Candy.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: It's kind of crazy when you think about how high
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 9: they've gone up Right now, they're saying the only ones
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 9: that are above the Celtics are you would guess the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 9: Lakers and the Knicks. And the Knicks are valued right
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: now at seven point five billion. But if you think
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: about it, look at what all they bring in too,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: besides the medium market, besides the sales of merchandise, besides
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 9: the concessions, like, there's a lot that goes into those numbers.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 9: But yes, I would say betting has really changed sports
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: in general. And I would almost you know, it's hard
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: to say this, but you watch a regular show and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: now they're coming on and they're saying, oh, well, you
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 9: can bet if this, if this player is gonna get
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: you know, score before the third quarter, or if they're
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 9: gonna score how many goals? And it's not just you're
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 9: betting on the game and who's gonna win anymore. I mean,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: we all know Pete Rose did all that, you know,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: but like now you you can bet on a lot
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 9: of different things like who's gonna win the coin flip,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: and it's just crazy, Jay, I know I do not,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 9: but it's changed how people watch sports as well.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing I'm gonna the only thing I'm
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: gonna say about this is the Celtics got six point
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: one billion. There's only three other franchises that will probably
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: eclipse it.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: You got the Yankees if they're ever sold by the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Cydebrunner family, the Lakers if they're ever sold. And trying
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: to think, well, we all know that if the Red
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Sox get sold, they're gonna get a lot of money
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: as well. So there aren't many other teams and I
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: think you can really value that's going to fetch as much.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: And of course we talked about the New York next
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: and can you talk about seven twenty five billion?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: So far right, let's go to a couple of quick
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: comments and chat few Moore top gift A boy. I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: knew we were loaded tonight, Mike. Thanks for hanging with
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: us on it. You have to pisson somehow avoided elimination.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I knew this was going to be a long series.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: This Pisson team's got a lot of guts and character.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: George Kern will be there probably tomorrow night anyway, so
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about that on another show. We're thting, so
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: we'll stay with the NBA team just a little. We
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: don't have to talk too much on it. Chris Paul
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: is the first player in NBA history to play all
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: eighty two games in twenty and his twentieth season or later.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. As I said, we can talk
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: as long as we want to on it, but I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: think this is on here when you look at where
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: we're going with it. That's fine, hey, Pens. And if
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: you have to bolt right now, that's okay, don't worry
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: about it. We appreciate your time being on the show.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that you enjoyed your
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: time here what we're doing. That's fine. You can go
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: now if you like, and we'll take it home and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: I know you'll be on fire up tomorrow night.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: All righty, all right, all right, thanks nice meeting.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: All right, So there we go. Now you have it.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Now that we are down to six, we're about to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: be down to six, Mike, what are your thoughts about
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Chris Paul. This guy here, to me is unbelievable. He
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: really really is. To be able to play eighty two
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: games in his twentieth year, that says a lot.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Somewhere down the line. There's a reason why Chris Paul
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: has had to play for so many teams.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Is that now where he's.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Playing in a league where nobody wants to play, he's
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: playing all eighty two games because he's trying to.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: Hang on to a career.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 13: To win a championship somewhere, right, it ain't gonna happen because,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 13: much like Jacob said earlier with James Harden, you ain't
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 13: gonna win with a guy like Chris Paul.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't know him personally.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: But there's a problem.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: He doesn't He doesn't fit in well anywhere. He had
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a stint when he was with
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: the Clippers, but other than that, he's uh, something wrong
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: with this guy. I mean, the NBA cried for a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: while to make him the marketing darling and it didn't work.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know what it.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Is with him, but I just don't think he's well
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: liked by teammates. I don't think he's ever been the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: guy that can drive a team to a championship, and
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's been just trying to hang on to
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: find a way to get a championship off of somebody
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: else's back.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no question about it, and not only that.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Jay makes the point things things over his career. The
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: only thing I'll say about it, I'll just keep my
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: comments free for everybody get there. That is to be
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: able to play all eighty two games after a twenty
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: fifth here is a is an accomplishment on its own.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: And that's all I'm going to say about it, because
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: let's faces reality, whether he elected or not, this guy
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: may find a way to get in the Nasmiths Hall
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: of Fame based on his longevity and some of his
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: individual numbers. I'm done with this topic of Jacob Christner.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Probably are some thoughts about it.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: I do, I do, but I do a favor for
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: you before I say it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I am lose to you.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: Guys on Wi FI have been going on and off
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 7: all night. I'm barely seeing a lot. Can I do
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: my final thoughts and go yes, absolutely, let me do
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 7: the James, let me do the Chris Paul thing real fast.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: I will say this at least I know Chris Paul
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 7: wants it. You want to know what James Harden wants.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: He wants his three pointers and he wants his stripper's name, Peaches.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: That's all he cares about. But all right, my final
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: thoughts here real fast. This is my thing.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 8: People bring up Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods. Who's the goat.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: I'll say why it is Jack, But I'll say why
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 7: that is. It's because Tiger his prime, probably more impressive
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: because of every I mean, look at all the records,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: look at all the numbers, look at all the highlights,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 7: look at.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 8: Everything from Tiger. That's amazing. Don't get that wrong. I
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: don't have a hate for Tiger Woods. He's brought.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 7: He brought a whole groups new set of fans, which
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: was needed badly, So don't take that wrong. It was
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: kind of like what Jack did in the sixties. But
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 7: here's what Jack did from sixty two to seventy eight.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: He was sixty two to seventy eight. He won at
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 7: least a tournament a year from that time on. Only
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 7: two of those years he did he only two of
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: those years did he not win the Slam. After that
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: fact that in eighty and eighty sixty one other slams.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 7: Then he went into the senior thing in eighty seven,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: only played five or six five or six the events
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: a year, including the slams, and he won eight slams
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 7: and the senior circuit. He makes highlights to this day
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: on video for the deal and stuff like that, going
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: into it eighty five years old. The thing is what Tiger,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: what ended, What kept Tiger from being the greatest ever
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 7: was just his on I mean he did. He was
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 7: so disciplined on the course and he was all so
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: undisciplined off of it. Jack had Barbara and the point
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: I'm making in this final sentiment here and I'm waiting
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: for the same thing in my life, get the right woman.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: And you know what, before I let you go, I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: have a pund of fundssentment. I want you to really
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: comment very quickly on our centers around. Colonel Harland Sanders,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: the founder of KFC, reminds us that success doesn't have
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: to have a deadline. He launched his iconic brand of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: sixty five, proving that it's never too late to tase
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: your dreams and brace your journey, no matter how long
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: it takes. Is this persistence is the key just because
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: you took longer than others doesn't mean you failed. Give
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: me your thoughts on it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: He was he was going across the country and his car,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 7: I'm showing his herbs and spices and everything like that.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 7: They helped against the stores. He found Dave Thomas, who
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 7: helped him run his stores. Dave Thomas became Wendy's later.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, by itself, Colonel Sanders. Colonel Sanders became he
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 7: kind of sold out to a corporation and he just
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: became kind of an image. So that was kind of
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: a mistake in all the truth. The sixty five being
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 7: sixty five and getting his millions, that's awesome for him
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: because he worked his tailoff and he had a own
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 7: little restaurant which was and did all that kind of
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: stuff until the highway went through his area and that
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 7: was it. But remember these type of things by itself,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 7: it's like when you by itself is like this a
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: thing about aging. Now and just tell me real quickly, Mike,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: how old are you?
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: Sixty?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: See this is the point about him. He was sixty
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: five with his thing. Sixty and sixty five looked different
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 7: than they do now. I'm forty seven. The only thing
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: you see on me is gray hair forty seven in August.
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  Speaker 7: But this is the thing aging allows us to do
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: so now of this type of era allows us to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 7: do so much. If Colonel Sanders had the aging thing
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 7: like we have now, with the options and everything like that,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 7: he could have gone longer without selling out corporate and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: making it a lesser product.
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  Speaker 8: Think about that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we brought the topic up because we do the
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  Speaker 3: fund of Funded seven. I figured this was any last
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: thing that everybody know how they get a hold of
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: out then you're done.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, just to say quickly, it was just saying like that.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 7: It was Barbara getting yourself a good woman and get
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: someone around you. That's all I meant by that. But yeah,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: but I was on. I was in a background on
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 7: a set this week. So I do movies here and there.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: I also do things with Sideline Sports and stuff like that.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: And I got a bunch of different things than I'm
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: in the lines, and I mean Iron's in the fire,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 7: so I'm working on it.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're glad to have every Wednesday night here on
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  Speaker 3: the Sports they sage all right, take up and know
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: your WiFi is going. I want to thank you for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: being on tonight. We'll see you next Wednesday night.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Thank all right? All right, so now.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: They were down to five, make things a little bit EASi.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: Here we're on Chris Paul. George Kland, what are your
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: thoughts about Chris Paul.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: Well, he is my admiration. I mean, you know a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: guy could play that many, like you said, over twenty
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: seasons and be in every game. You know, it shows
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: a lot of grit, a lot of determination. Yes, I'm
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: sure there's other factors such as incentive and clauses and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: things like that in his contract perhaps, but it's not
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: like we're getting that crazy, crazy NBA mentality where they
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 6: got to take off games whenever they want to load
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: management or whatever they call that. So, yeah, you know
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: Chris Paul. Yeah, he has moved around a lot, that's true, Mike,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: But I think he's been a solid ballplayer throughout his
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: career in the NBA and I wish him well JBLS.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna have to get going soon too. It's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: getting leaky, right, But you know, excellent show so far,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of great topics. Chris Paul. There's always been
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: something with him where he just for whatever reason, doesn't
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: get a long key is a He was ahead of
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: the players Union. I don't know if he still is.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: I don't really follow the NBA Players Union, but he
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: was for a while. Kenny shaking her hand. Now, you
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: know he he's a good guy, but he just doesn't
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: seem to get along with his teammates, you know. And
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: it's a shame because a lot of talent. He had
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: one chance, I think where he could have won a
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: title and he got hurt that year. I think it
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: was was it achilles or caff injury or something. I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: figuret what it was, but you know, it's a shape
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: and he's not going to get it this year. Uh
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: you know, maybe maybe one more year if he's got
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: it in him, who knows. But just gotta keep on
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: playing and do it.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, all right, JB.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Before you go, give me your thoughts about Colonel Sanders,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: and then you can kill everybody, know how they get
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: a hold.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: Of yet, Listen, never give up in life until the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 5: day you're dead. You always got a chance. It's as
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: simple as that. You know, if you give up, you're done.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: You never know. If you keep putting effort into something,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: as long as you're doing the right thing, you just
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: never know, so you know, if I didn't know that
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: about Colonel Sanders, but good for Hey, you know a lot.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of more stories like that than you
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: would think, and it's always good to hear.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Like I like to bring them in here, and that's
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: what we're doing with the go ahead.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: And continue definitely and then Sideline Sports, uh, you know,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: every Tuesday night, eight thirty, Confidential Wednesday at eight of
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: course eight Central, of course here light Eastern here every
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: Wednesday at nine. Websites down for some reason. Still working
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: on that, but we'll let you know as soon as
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: it's back up. Great show, Mike, pleasure meeting you Scott
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: as always, great topics, very entertaining. George, good seeing you.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: N Hopefully your Pistons could come back and win two
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: more games. You know, I'd like to say a lot
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: of things, but you know this is be a broadcast,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: so I'll keep it to the PG version. I don't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: like Dolan, which means all of his knickerbockers can lose. Mike,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: you worked for the Ologers, so you know the other
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: team that occupies that building is also garbage because of Dolan.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: So you were with the good team of New York.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: But pleasure meeting your kiddy. It's got to have a
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: crate at I'll see you next week.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Actually you've bet thanks to JB. Glenn. Have you on
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: So now we are down to four. Wilm let everybody
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: had the chance to get their thing, and Mike, we
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: don't have a whole lot longer ago. But Candy then
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: talks about Paul and then you can give us your
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: pundit funded version CP three.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 9: He won the NBA Rookie of the Year award and
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 9: NBA All Star Game Most Valuable Player Award, two Olympic
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 9: Gold medals. He led the NBA and assists five times
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 9: and steals a record six times. He's been selected to
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 9: twelve NBA All Star Teams, eleven All and Eight teams,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 9: and nine NBA All Defensive Teams. He was selected in
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty one to the NBA's seventy fifth Anniversary team, and,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 9: like JB was alluding to, he also served as the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 9: president of the National Basketball Players Association from twenty thirteen
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 9: to twenty twenty one. In today's day and age, it's
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 9: unheard of, with load management and people players taking rest
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: that someone would play all of the games. Kudos to him,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 9: you know, it's it's too bad that someone that's been
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 9: around the league for as long as he has and
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 9: has had some of the success that he has, that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 9: he hasn't been able to win, you know. But there's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 9: a lot of players that you could say that, And
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 9: the problem with that is that's how we judge people
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 9: is how many championships.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Do you win?
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 9: Your career is based on how many championships do you
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 9: did you win for the most part, So.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: All right, Kenny, your take on the punt plat the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: topic KFC.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 9: KFC, Well, let's see, we we went to the original KFC.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 9: We went to see where Colonel Sanders was. I mean,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 9: never give up because you can you never know what's
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 9: gonna happen. That keep preaching for whatever you are dreaming
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: for and keep striving for it, because you never know
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 9: what's going to happen.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, very good, George. You know the two topics did
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: you mention Chris Paul Georgia.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: Talked about Paul, I didn't talk about the colonel? Yeah,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: we were you.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: You went to the uh.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: Saw, Yeah, we saw his place in Kentucky. And then
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: just a great story the little museum may have and everything.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: A man like you said, he never gave up, even
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: if he was in his sixties. God bless him. And
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: what a franchise he built, some of the best chicken around.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well we'll take it. We'll take it
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: a step further on that I had opportunity to. Now
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: we go to that with Candy, but we also went
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: to his grave site out in Kentucky as well, so
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: to be able to see that as well. Mike So
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: talks about KFC. You already told me about Chris Paul.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, So my first thought is that Chris Paul
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: must have been a fan of Colonel Sanders. So still
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: going out at this age. But I try not to
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: eat a lot of KFC. I am an original recipe
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: guy when I do. Yeah, I mean there's there's probably
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: not a better fast product fast food out there. I
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: mean maybe Taco Bells a close second. I try to
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: stay away. Yeah, the Colonel did good bye me. One
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: other note, Uh, this just came across my thing. But
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: a fan fell off the Clemente wall in Pittsburgh tonight
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: at the Pirates game. I don't know if you saw
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: looks it doesn't look good.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Oh too bad.
• 1:37:57
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  Speaker 2: All right, the only thing I'll had to close out
• 1:41:28
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad the Washington Commanders are going to be building
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: a stadium middle range between three point seven and four
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  Speaker 3: billion dollars on the old ourn RFK stadium site.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually been in the facility in.
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  Speaker 3: Mike has got as usual. You're you to me, you're
• 1:42:01
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  Speaker 3: You had an opportunity to meet more people in the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: network as well, and of course next week we finally
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  Speaker 3: and get a bite deep. Finally, George Night's job tonight,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: I'll talk to you a few minutes after the show
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: Candy as usual, a great job. There's the way so
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: on behalf of J. M Ellis, Jacob Christner, Pensman, Mike Santos,
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  Speaker 3: Candy Ebling.
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  Speaker 2: And George Reichorn.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Scott Morgan of the Motor City Menah,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for joining us on this edition of the
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• 1:42:32
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• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: To me, the show would be we'd be talking to ourselves.
• 1:42:40
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• 1:42:43
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