Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Improving the Body Without Fixating on Image
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Well, how do we improve our body shape without getting
- 0:07Speaker 1: fixated on body image. That's a tricky question, and it
- 0:13Speaker 1: comes to us today from an anonymous listener. No name
- 0:16Speaker 1: is given on this email. Pastor John, Hello, thank you
- 0:19Speaker 1: for faithfully teaching God's word. I want to provide some
- 0:23Speaker 1: context for my question. I used to be obsessed with
- 0:26Speaker 1: the gem and my appearance, always striving to look better
- 0:29Speaker 1: and lift more. I was never satisfied with how I looked,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and I became consumed by it. However, after injuring my
- 0:35Speaker 1: knee and taking a break, I realized how much this
- 0:38Speaker 1: obsession had controlled me. The injury helped me refocus on
- 0:42Speaker 1: treating my body better and moving in ways that support
- 0:45Speaker 1: my health rather than being anxious about my physical appearance. Now,
- 0:50Speaker 1: I go to the gym about two to three times
- 0:52Speaker 1: a week with my mom, not to obsess over my looks,
- 0:55Speaker 1: but to pursue overall health and wellness. My question is
- 0:59Speaker 1: is it sinful to enjoy how I look? As I
- 1:02Speaker 1: continue this healthy routine. I know it's good to be healthy,
- 1:06Speaker 1: as it gives me more energy and makes me feel
- 1:08Speaker 1: better day by day. But I don't want to fall
- 1:10Speaker 1: back into obsession or dishonor God with my focus, I
- 1:14Speaker 1: understand he should be first in all things, including my fitness.
- 1:17Speaker 1: But if I notice my body changing, is that wrong?
- 1:21Speaker 1: And if so, how can I turn away from that?
- 1:25Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting to me, Tony, that I cannot tell
- 1:28Speaker 2: from this question whether this is a man or a woman.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And probably that's a good thing, since I can easily
- 1:35Speaker 2: imagine it being either. I really can so, he or
- 1:39Speaker 2: she asks, And here's the question. My question is is
- 1:44Speaker 2: it sinful to enjoy how I look? As I continue
- 1:50Speaker 2: this healthy routine? If I notice my body changing, presumably
- 1:57Speaker 2: in a good way, is that wrong? If so, how
- 2:02Speaker 2: can I turn away from that? It is significant, I think,
- 2:05Speaker 2: isn't it that even in the world, the god ignoring,
- 2:10Speaker 2: self exalting world, the world knows there's a problem with
- 2:16Speaker 2: the wrong kind of love for one's self and one's appearance.
- 2:20Speaker 2: And we know that the world feels that way because
- 2:24Speaker 2: it has created the word narcissism, right, I mean, here's
- 2:28Speaker 2: the Google definition. Narcissism is a personality trait characterized by
- 2:34Speaker 2: an excessive preoccupation with one's self, a grand sense of
- 2:42Speaker 2: self importance, a lack of empathy for others, and a
- 2:46Speaker 2: need for excessive admiration end quote, that would include I
- 2:54Speaker 2: think admiration for preoccupation with one's body, one's physical appearance. Now,
- 3:01Speaker 2: I'm not saying this person who asked this question is
- 3:03Speaker 2: a narcissist, not at all. I'm not saying that. What
- 3:06Speaker 2: I'm saying is that this is the sort of issue
- 3:10Speaker 2: that is very hard to put in a positive light,
- 3:15Speaker 2: even among the world people. What I mean is, even
- 3:19Speaker 2: if someone said all the right things biblically, experientially, spiritually
- 3:25Speaker 2: in an article entitled why I notice my body and
- 3:29Speaker 2: like the way it looks, that article is going to
- 3:32Speaker 2: sound to almost everybody like there's something off. Why are
- 3:37Speaker 2: you writing an article entitled why I notice my body
- 3:40Speaker 2: and light the way it looks? Why are you writing
- 3:42Speaker 2: that there's something off? I think the reason is because
- 3:47Speaker 2: the mindset and the intuitions concerning one's own physical appearance
- 3:52Speaker 2: should be an echo of the scripture rather than something
- 3:57Speaker 2: the scripture deals with as a direct shout into the valley.
- 4:02Speaker 2: And so when you treat an echo as part of
- 4:06Speaker 2: the original shout, it starts to sound weird or awkward. Okay,
- 4:12Speaker 2: So that's my take on why is it's hard to
- 4:14Speaker 2: talk about this, So what should I say? I think
- 4:19Speaker 2: what might be helpful is to suggest that there may
- 4:23Speaker 2: be a better way to talk about our appearance that
- 4:28Speaker 2: doesn't involve saying I enjoy how I look or is
- 4:33Speaker 2: it okay to notice how I look, even though both
- 4:38Speaker 2: of those sentences might be totally innocent. In general, that
- 4:43Speaker 2: way of talking is going to go hand in hand
- 4:47Speaker 2: with a perception may not be a reality, but a
- 4:50Speaker 2: perception that this person is a little excessively concerned about
- 4:57Speaker 2: personal appearance, even if that's not true true. So here
- 5:01Speaker 2: a few suggests. Make it your aim in how you
- 5:05Speaker 2: dress and speak and act in public. Make it your
- 5:10Speaker 2: aim to be present as a person interested in others,
- 5:15Speaker 2: rather than present as an appearance concerned about how you
- 5:20Speaker 2: are seen. Let's be more concerned about the health and
- 5:25Speaker 2: beauty and attractiveness of our personhood than of our body.
- 5:31Speaker 2: That's the overwhelming emphasis of the Bible. Second, let's seek
- 5:37Speaker 2: to dress and act and speak in public in a
- 5:42Speaker 2: way that puts no stumbling block in another person's way
- 5:47Speaker 2: concerning Christ or the Gospel or the Church, and that
- 5:51Speaker 2: would imply immodesty should be avoided. That is, anything that
- 5:56Speaker 2: would communicate please look at my skin, Please look at
- 6:01Speaker 2: my shape. There are clothes that say, loud and clear,
- 6:06Speaker 2: look at me, and look at me sexually. This aim
- 6:10Speaker 2: of not being a stumbling block would also imply avoiding
- 6:16Speaker 2: slovenliness or being unclean or unkempt, where people expect us
- 6:23Speaker 2: to be neat and clean. It would imply avoiding styles that,
- 6:29Speaker 2: either because they're avant garde or old fashioned, stand out
- 6:33Speaker 2: and get praise or criticism. We simply do not want
- 6:39Speaker 2: our physical appearance to be the issue, whether stylish or frumpy.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I just don't want to stick out as whoa how
- 6:48Speaker 2: stylish or WHOA how weird and frumpy. We want what
- 6:53Speaker 2: we say, what we do, what we think, what we feel,
- 6:57Speaker 2: how we treat people to be the main effect of
- 7:01Speaker 2: our presence, not the way we look. And there's a
- 7:07Speaker 2: way to dress, and there's a way of fitness that
- 7:11Speaker 2: says that or says the opposite. It's pretty obvious today.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I think that, from the President of the United States
- 7:21Speaker 2: to the news anchor to the movie star, that men
- 7:25Speaker 2: care as much about their hair and their complexion and
- 7:31Speaker 2: their shape as women do. But I do think that
- 7:37Speaker 2: history and experience and scripture all suggest that God, in
- 7:45Speaker 2: a natural and good way, has put it in the
- 7:48Speaker 2: feminine psyche to want to appear beautiful or pleasing to
- 7:55Speaker 2: the eye. Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel Esther, all of them describe
- 8:00Speaker 2: as beautiful women in a good way, no criticism. My
- 8:07Speaker 2: wife showed me this early on in our marriage fifty
- 8:10Speaker 2: five years ago, in the first year. Women regularly comment
- 8:16Speaker 2: on each other's appearance, far more than men do. She said,
- 8:20Speaker 2: you do know, don't you, that most women dress for women,
- 8:23Speaker 2: not for men. I said, no, I did not know that.
- 8:27Speaker 2: So I don't want to say that this God given
- 8:31Speaker 2: aspect of being feminine has to be vain or seductive.
- 8:36Speaker 2: It doesn't. I have seen too many godly, modest women
- 8:42Speaker 2: dress very attractively. And by attractive, I do not mean
- 8:48Speaker 2: attractive to the lustful eye, but an eye that rejoices
- 8:52Speaker 2: in the beauty of modest stylishness appropriate to the occasion.
- 8:58Speaker 2: This is what mothers should be teach their daughters. Oh please,
- 9:02Speaker 2: This is what mothers should be teaching their daughters, because
- 9:05Speaker 2: if they don't, the world will convince the daughters there's
- 9:09Speaker 2: only one way to be attractive, namely the way the
- 9:13Speaker 2: world does it, which is not true. When Proverb's eleven
- 9:17Speaker 2: twenty two says, like a gold ring in a pig
- 9:21Speaker 2: snout is a beautiful woman without discretion, The implication is
- 9:26Speaker 2: a gold ring is a good thing. It doesn't belong
- 9:28Speaker 2: in a pig snout. In other words, a woman's beauty
- 9:33Speaker 2: is good and it should go hand in hand with
- 9:36Speaker 2: discretion and wisdom and modesty and the beauty of character
- 9:41Speaker 2: and heart and faith. So if I were to make
- 9:44Speaker 2: up my own proverb about the average woman, and we
- 9:48Speaker 2: have to admit it, most of us are average, right,
- 9:50Speaker 2: that's what average means.
- 9:52Speaker 1: That's true.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Most people are not beautiful, most people are not handsome.
- 9:56Speaker 2: We're just average. So how do you make up a
- 9:58Speaker 2: proverb for the average woman? I would say that it
- 10:03Speaker 2: would go something like this. A wooden ring, and I
- 10:06Speaker 2: know a lot of people have wooden wedding rings. A
- 10:09Speaker 2: wooden ring in a setting of brass and gold is
- 10:13Speaker 2: like a woman of average appearance with a character of
- 10:17Speaker 2: strength and beauty. I like that. If that's who you are,
- 10:23Speaker 2: or the corresponding man, be thankful, do your exercises, eat right,
- 10:29Speaker 2: dress simply, and then forget about yourself in the service
- 10:34Speaker 2: of others. For Jesus' sake.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Yeah, while physical beauty is good and God given, Christians
- 10:39Speaker 1: should pursue modesty, character, and love for others over self focus,
- 10:45Speaker 1: aiming to reflect biblical wisdom and avoid the dead end
- 10:48Speaker 1: of vanity. Very good. We've talked a lot about fitness.
- 10:53Speaker 1: How does Pastor John maintain his fitness routine? What is
- 10:56Speaker 1: that routine? Can asceticism contribute to christ holiness? How does
- 11:01Speaker 1: physical exercise benefit Christian spiritually? How does exercise improve mental
- 11:06Speaker 1: health and ministry? How does self obsession limit our spiritual freedom?
- 11:10Speaker 1: All of those kinds of issues we've looked at, and
- 11:13Speaker 1: if you want to see my digestive those episodes that
- 11:15Speaker 1: we've covered here in the Aspestor John podcast, see the
- 11:19Speaker 1: Aspestodon book on that section called on Gems, Exercise and
- 11:23Speaker 1: Body Image on pages two forty seven to two fifty four. Well,
- 11:28Speaker 1: vanity is a killer, and so is impatience. Impatience is
- 11:35Speaker 1: a killer too. Pastor John sounds the warning next time
- 11:38Speaker 1: that if we will no longer forgive as we have
- 11:41Speaker 1: been forgiven, if we will no longer return good for evil,
- 11:46Speaker 1: if we will no longer do good, if we will
- 11:48Speaker 1: no longer endure the hardships of this life. Without giving
- 11:52Speaker 1: up on Christ, we will be lost the apostasy of patience.
- 12:01Speaker 1: That's next time. I'm Tony Ranky. Will see you on Monday.